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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of what could be a very brief moment in

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna savor this moment, you know, let it breathe.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, May fifteenth, and on today's show ESPN, NFL

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Speaker 1: analyst and podcast host, celebrity Jeopardy star and the new

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Speaker 1: host of The Scripts National Spelling Beat, Mina Kimes joins us.

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Speaker 1: We talk about how the Bee will look different this year,

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Speaker 1: what she's spending the most time researching ahead of her

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Speaker 1: first time hosting, being a cool nerd, and accessing parts

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Speaker 1: of her brain she hasn't used in a while. Plus

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Speaker 1: setting the tempo, a hot new bronze shell has entered

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Speaker 1: the villa, and revenge is best served on ice.

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Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this backslices.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today, Starting with hoops,

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Speaker 1: the expansion Toronto Tempo earned their first win as a

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Speaker 1: Marina Maybury led the Tempo with twenty six points, including

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Speaker 1: On the night after the win, players celebrated by drenching

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Speaker 1: head coach and friend of the show Sandy Brondello.

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Speaker 2: With a bit of water in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Maybury at least handed her a towel, perhaps her most

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Speaker 1: Sky took down the Golden State Valkyrie sixty nine to

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Speaker 1: The Sky's Rakia Jackson led the way with eighteen points,

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Speaker 1: Again in a losing effort, putting up twenty five for

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Speaker 2: For the Aces that bet is paying off so.

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Speaker 1: Far, four time MVP Asia Wilson put up twenty two

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Speaker 1: Son still looking for their first dub in this quote

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Speaker 1: announced on Wednesday that the WNBA and NBA Board of

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Speaker 1: Governors unanimously approved the sale of the sun and the

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Speaker 1: team's relocation to Houston ahead of next season. Tilman Fertida,

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Speaker 1: Celtics mind already owner Steve Paliuca, who wanted to move

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Speaker 1: We've known about this move for a long time, but

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Speaker 1: before two WNBA games on Thursday night and another weekend

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Speaker 1: reigning league champs, the Aces, are staying on the East

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Speaker 1: and it's a big one. The La Sparks announced on

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Speaker 1: Recording this ahead of Game one of the PWHL Finals

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Speaker 1: between the number one Montreal Victoire and number four Ottawa

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Speaker 1: The best of five series will continue Saturday, with Game two,

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Speaker 1: in Ottawa. This series is an opportunity for revenge for Montreal.

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Speaker 1: Last season, they were ousted by Ottawa in the semi finals. Meantime,

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Speaker 1: the nwsl where this weekend Slate kicks off tonight with

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Speaker 1: Also, if Case wins that game, midfielder Debinia will become

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Speaker 1: Boston Legacy at ten pm Eastern will mark the first

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Speaker 1: Boston have gone head to head since back in twenty

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Speaker 1: games this afternoon at the sixteen regional sites. Four teams

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Speaker 1: come back, how do you spell success? We'll ask Mina chimes.

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Speaker 1: I got up with her on Wednesday ahead of the

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Speaker 2: It's Mina Chimes, Hi Mina Hi Wow.

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Speaker 1: Your boy is not as chunky as he used to be,

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Speaker 3: was really hoping he'd be chunky forever. But he's still

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Speaker 3: kind of weirdly large. You've never met him, he is

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Speaker 3: I have since learned is predictive. If the mom is

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Jeopardy, and my nerves for you are legitimate as

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Speaker 1: fireworks or like big blasts.

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Speaker 2: Of steam like we do out of the tunnel.

435
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: That I don't think they're gonna do. Some of the kids, though,

436
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,719
Speaker 3: have like major swagged the kid who won last year

437
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 3: was super swaggy. And this is the other thing I've

438
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,120
Speaker 3: learned about the semib I've gotten dossiers on like the contenders.

439
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: Sometimes kids can come out of nowhere and surprise you.

440
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 3: Happens all the time. But because a lot of these

441
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: kids have been competing for a while, and then there's

442
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: regional bees, the people who run the National Spelling Script

443
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: National Spelling Bee do kind of have an idea of

444
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 3: who the contenders are in fact watching. When I opened

445
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: my dossias, I was like, oh, I recognize that name.

446
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: That name.

447
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 3: That name like Esha from Arizona made it to the

448
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 3: top ten last year. She is one to watch, a

449
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 3: lady to watch. Yes, she's awesome. This kid Starve who

450
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: came in third even though he was like eleven last year.

451
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, that's something that's also kind

452
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 3: of cool about it is there are familiar faces year

453
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 3: after year and you can kind of see them grow

454
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: in confidence.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

456
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: I imagine your personal history with Spelling Bees involves a

457
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Speaker 1: lot of winning.

458
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: What about a word you lost on that you still remember?

459
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Speaker 3: I actually don't remember my lose words. I have a

460
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: weird thing where I have a real inability to remember

461
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: information from before I was fifteen.

462
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: Okay, so very specific. Age?

463
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: Is that odd?

464
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: Like I, I just like puberty hit and you were

465
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: just like I think it's because I don't know.

466
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Speaker 3: Probably it's probably because I've filled my brain with all

467
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: kinds of dumb football stuff and crowded out all the

468
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: useful information, right, but which is really start during Jeopardy.

469
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. I moved around a lot.

470
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 3: I think that's part of it too. So again, all

471
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Speaker 3: these kids remembered, They're losing words at literally every bee

472
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: that they've and maybe that's what separates the greats from

473
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 3: the merely the wanna bees. Like me, I did remember,

474
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: though my parents helped me remember. I won the second

475
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: grade city B with it. It was an easy word,

476
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Speaker 3: but I was the second grader. Receive was the work

477
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 3: that I spoke directly, which you know, the infamous eye

478
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 3: before E except after see came into play there. But

479
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: the thing I remembered more than the words, and I

480
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: did remember vaguely from that second grade B was getting

481
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: the trophy, which was bigger than me, so I was

482
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: trying to hold it outside of the school. But that

483
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: one I did.

484
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: Remember that's amazing. Any recent spelling bees for charity or.

485
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: Something I have not, I'm open to doing it, although

486
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I would get embarrassed.

487
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: I did it a couple of years ago and I

488
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: of course won, so that felt great, and I feel

489
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: like the pressure is still there as.

490
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: An adult where any of the words hard.

491
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some tough ones.

492
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, they weren't the kind you'd say on the

493
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: spelling bee, but they were the kind that you just

494
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: haven't really noticed you've been spelling weird. Yeah, and it's

495
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: been probably getting fixed for you that you oh, yeah

496
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You never notice anymore because when

497
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: you just type it, it just fixed a little.

498
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

499
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: I can't remember one of them specifically, but yeah, I

500
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: had absolutely no chill. I was like parading around the

501
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: stage with the trophy for this charity event and.

502
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Speaker 2: I met no one who's one has ever done that.

503
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: But that's how I operate.

504
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: Listen, Yeah, celebrate the wins.

505
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: Winning anything, celebrate it. You never know when you're getting

506
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: your last win. I'm wondering how your expertise analyzing football

507
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: is helping you prep for this gig, Like, where do

508
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: you find the intersections between the research you do for

509
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: NFL Live and the research you're doing for this.

510
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: I think I'm where I feel it creeping in already

511
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: as I'm watching these past b's and thinking about what

512
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: kind of content we should do, like in between the

513
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 3: grounds and to set them up. Is when I think

514
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: about football and the way I like to cover it

515
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: and the way I enjoy other people's coverage, I always

516
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: want to hear the how. I don't want to be told, wow,

517
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: you know Patrick Mahomes was awesome. Tell me how he

518
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: was awesome. Tell me why he did something different from

519
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: the other quarterbacks. And when I'm watching the piece, I

520
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: feel the same way watching these kids, Like I know

521
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: they're smart, I know they're amazing, but tell me how,

522
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 3: tell me why? Like I really want to find ways it.

523
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 3: Paul is really who's gonna be doing the book of

524
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: this to explain to folks how these kids are puzzling

525
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: out these words, what makes some of these words so

526
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: uniquely challenging? And I think that's that's definitely a goal

527
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: of mine in this whole project, is to get the

528
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: how to come to the forefront.

529
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: What are you going to study the most ahead of

530
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: the broadcast?

531
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Speaker 3: The pronunciations of the kids' names. Yeah, I had a

532
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: feeling I'm gonna study which is a football you know,

533
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: like we I do in the draft too, right, Like

534
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: I try to get pronouncers like I come up with

535
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: little mnemonic devices like So this year, Venga Yuana was

536
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: the guard at a Penn State that the Ravens took

537
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: and the way I remembered it was, uh, Venga Yuana,

538
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: you want to draft him? So when it came up,

539
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: I was like, Yoana, I was like, I remember that.

540
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 3: So I try to call little little devices like that

541
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 3: to remember the names.

542
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

543
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember if I've told this story on the pod,

544
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: but I was hosting the tenth anniversary of the Global

545
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Sports Mentoring Program between espnW and the US State Department

546
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. With Jill Biden and Billy Jean

547
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: King and all these luminaries there. And it was during

548
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: US coming out of COVID, so that morning we'd all

549
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: had to take COVID test. The teleprompter person tested positive

550
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: and they replaced them with someone last minute that they

551
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: said had done it before but had not, And I

552
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: had to introduce thirty of the previous members of the

553
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: Global Sports mentoring program from China, India, all these places,

554
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: and the last second, Rachel Epstein, my espnW hero, was like,

555
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: just bring the cards up just in case, and I

556
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: was like, well, the teleprompter I just bring So the

557
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: teleprompter just stops in the middle of talking and I'm like,

558
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: and also Ted lewons this is here.

559
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Hi did, and I'm looking around like shuffle shuffle, shuffle shuffle.

560
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: And thank god my cards had every single pronunciation laid

561
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: out exactly as I need it, because that's the most terrifying.

562
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Is like yeah, And my tip from that is and

563
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: ever since then, I've started not looking at them anymore.

564
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: I just say them so many times that when my

565
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: brain arrived upon them, it just does the thing. It's

566
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: like if I try to look at Yana sents to

567
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: combo and say it by reading it, I screw it up.

568
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: But now I just say it because it's in my head.

569
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: So maybe just say them over and over and over

570
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: again without even looking, so that when it arrives your

571
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: brain doesn't do any work.

572
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: It's like brushing your teeth.

573
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: I think that helps a lot. I always like like

574
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: zero in on like one syllable, like okay, just if

575
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: I can nail this one syllable, I can nail everything

576
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: else that the most maybe like tricky one. But yeah,

577
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: like I think saying them is really helpful and it's

578
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: really important, right like this is these are these kids

579
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: shining moments. I don't want to ruin them by miss

580
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: browsing their names.

581
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: I think that can suck.

582
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: So it's a lot of pressure. I want to get

583
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: that presure.

584
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: And also if they, you know, go viral and then

585
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: they have to tell everyone it's actually this like oh

586
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Tom Tibberdeu slash Thibadeau or Kiki eerieoff In slash ere

587
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: of Fen, it's like once everyone gets it one way,

588
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: it's a battle going back.

589
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've had that. That happened to me a

590
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: few times early in my career.

591
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: Minichyns Mina Keames.

592
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 3: I was a kid who didn't correct people when they

593
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: said my name wrong growing up.

594
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: So I can imagine you when you're so you can

595
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: call me whatever, it's no big deal, it's fine, it's fine.

596
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: Do you think your experience on Celebrity Jeopardy and how

597
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: that is probably the closest you've come to doing a

598
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: spelling bee type contest makes you a better Spelling Bee

599
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: co host, like more specific kind of empathy for the contestants.

600
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: Well, I did might get to the finals of the

601
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: Virginia State Geography Beest.

602
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 2: So oh, I'm so sorry. Sorry, I didn't realize there

603
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: were millions watching.

604
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: I think that. I think honestly, being a mom probably

605
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: do like is going to factor in a little bit

606
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: and being around children a bit more than I used

607
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: to be, even though these kids are a lot older

608
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: and my kid is pretty far away from spelling anything.

609
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: But he spelled his own name actually, which is very funny.

610
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: He loves spelling it and if he sees it, he

611
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: gets super excited. But yeah, I think the other thing

612
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: is like just doing live TV every day, you know,

613
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: which is as you know, like when you're when you

614
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: do stuff live, like you just kind of if you

615
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: make a mistake, you just got to keep it moving.

616
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: And I think that's something that is going to play

617
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: into this too, because it's not going to be I mean,

618
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: the semi finals are four hours long, Sarah, so it

619
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: take for a long time that Yeah, you can watch

620
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: it on spellingb dot com the four hour version. The

621
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: two hour version is on Ion later that night, but

622
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: I do think just the comfort of doing that for

623
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: so long will help.

624
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: In the press release announcing you as host, the executive

625
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: director of The Spelling Bee said, Mina shows over and

626
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: over how cool it is to be smart, making her

627
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: a natural fit for the Bee, which I love so

628
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: much because it feels awesome to get to show kids

629
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: that being smart as cool, like and I think you

630
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: do that so well, Like that's that's that's an I

631
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: love that quote about you. I'm wondering if you were

632
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: ever uncool, because I know everyone likes to say that

633
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: they were, but it's always like, I don't know, like

634
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: somebody who's a supermodel, being like people made fun of

635
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: me so much for being too skinny, and I'm like, yeah,

636
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was terrible.

637
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: Like were you ever actually uncool?

638
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: Junior high?

639
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

640
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: I was, you know, Uh, Elementary school was fine because

641
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: being smart was cool. Junior high the tide really turned.

642
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: And then in high school I think I started making

643
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: it come back. I played soccer that help, Okay, I had,

644
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: I started making it, but something that was too from

645
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: just moving around a lot, because like when I went

646
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: to junior high and know anyone.

647
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also like that weird.

648
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing, the like transition period is a lot

649
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: harder on some people than others.

650
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: Do you ever see the show pen fifteen? Yeah, I

651
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: looked like the girl in ten fifteen with the braces

652
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: and the bowl cut, and yeah it's not my fineste.

653
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had all the things at once. It was like,

654
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: not bad sets, but I had a couple of sets.

655
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: I had braces, I had frizzy hair, and I was

656
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: already like six feet tall when everyone else was still

657
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: five to two. So just just awkward galore. I did

658
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: not go on to be named sexiest woman at my

659
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: college like you were at Yale, unfortunately. So I'm still

660
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: working my way out of the uncool allegations. But you

661
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: have clearly thrived since you dry. You know, you break

662
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: a lot of ground in what you do as a woman,

663
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: as an Asian woman without playing professional football. You're analyzing

664
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: the NFL alongside these former players, and I wonder if

665
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: at any point you had imposter syndrome or questioned if

666
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: you belonged, or did you always know the work you

667
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: put in was enough?

668
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh all the time.

669
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I mean I still do, but I think it has

670
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: it declined a bit early in my career definitely was

671
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: the criticism used to hit me a lot harder. And

672
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: I think it hit me harder because of what you're saying,

673
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: which is it reflected how I felt about myself, right,

674
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: And that's the way online criticism works, or it is

675
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: almost exclusive be online. Is like it hurts when you

676
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: believe it. Yeah, you're right, you know what I mean,

677
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: Like when part of you, like the little like gremlin

678
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: in side of you is like they have a point,

679
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: Whereas when you see something you're like, you know it's

680
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: not true, even if it sucks, it doesn't really affect

681
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: you in the same way. And that's why I feel

682
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: about a lot of stuff I see now, I'm just like, yeah,

683
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: but yeah. Earlier in my career definitely, And I think

684
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: just working with these guys for so long was such

685
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: a big factor in building my confidence because I think

686
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: they're the best analysts on Earth on NFL Live, and

687
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: the fact that they believe in me has helped me

688
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: believe in myself.

689
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: And you got some great ones.

690
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: I just love Ryan Clark, Marcus just great, and obviously

691
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: to work with Laura just the best.

692
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: You know.

693
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I've heard some horror stories from women in the biz

694
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: mostly other places, not ESPN, but the dire hair, lose weight,

695
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: change your voice, change your look, change your approach. Did

696
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: you have anyone try to change you when you made

697
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: the pivot to full time NFL?

698
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: You know, not really. It's funny because I've heard a

699
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: lot of these stories too and seen some of them

700
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: play out. And I think because I have such a

701
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: unique role, candidly, just like not being a host, I

702
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: think I get it less than women who are on

703
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 3: the sidelines are hosting, just because I don't know why.

704
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: It's it's super up, but I do think it's sort

705
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: of made some of those people who might have those

706
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: types of opinions kind of like a little bit less

707
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: likely to which is in itself something interesting and probably

708
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: worth unpacking. But yeah, it is weird, Like I, you

709
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: and I have talked about this, Like I the whole

710
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: physical aspect of being on TV and being on camera

711
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: personality was so new to me and really didn't start

712
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: until I was in my thirties that I didn't really

713
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: know how much to invest in it myself. And and

714
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: that's why early in my career I would just let

715
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: make up people do insane things to me. Huh, Like

716
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: full on Smoky eyn Street.

717
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like always look like a fifty year old

718
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: realtor from New Jersey until I finally was like, I

719
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: don't think I want that you.

720
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: Have any look that you really regret from.

721
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes one of my ones, and it

722
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: pops up every once in a while, and I had to

723
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: tell them like, hey, can you like mark this so

724
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: that no one grabs it by mistake thinking it's like

725
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: one of the options. And then I know you have

726
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: your like appearance from when you're still doing like finance reporting, where.

727
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: You look super God.

728
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I have the ones from like the very first couple

729
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: appearances on like Oberman and Outside the Lines where it's

730
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: like I look like me, but like, only by looking

731
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: at that can you realize that I've paid for a

732
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: bunch of fake hair and fake eye you.

733
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

734
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: Like the glow up is so clear that I was like, Okay,

735
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm on TV now and I got to pay for

736
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff to look like someone I'm not.

737
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: It's crazy. You actually have to we talk all the time.

738
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: I like, Yeah, you learn how as a woman in

739
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: rang shape, you learn how to advocate for yourself to

740
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: producers and to talent. You also kind of have to

741
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: learn how to advocate for yourself in there and make covering.

742
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: No one talks about that. Like I it took me

743
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: forevery a walk and to be like, hey, here are

744
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 3: the things I like. Here are the things I don't like,

745
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: Like probably like two years before I see doing that.

746
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, me longer, because I like have made

747
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: it a principle of mine to be low maintenance. The

748
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: problem is is if you're like too low maintenance, then

749
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: you're like, well, I probably should have said, like I

750
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: just went on to be looking insane because I just

751
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a.

752
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Diva, but totally yeah.

753
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I think also to your point

754
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: about the hosts, when you're one of the only in something,

755
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: sometimes there's no comparison to be made, so they just

756
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: let you. Like I found that Jamal Hill is always

757
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: a great role model for me because she didn't feel

758
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: like she had to completely change her look and who

759
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: she was, and especially when we would go to like

760
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: the SP's, she'd change into a T shirt and sneakers

761
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: and be going to the parties and walking around and

762
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: not worrying about having to uphold this idea and I

763
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: think for women who are opinionists, there's a little bit

764
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: less of that you have to be exactly this because

765
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: there's just so few that they let us be whatever

766
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: we wanted, and they would actually tell me to bring

767
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: out more of my personality and my sense of humor

768
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: and all that stuff and not try to be too report,

769
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: whereas I think the hosts they're like, you basically have

770
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: to be a super babe in the perfect outfit, with

771
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: the perfect body, with the perfect hair, with the perfect everything,

772
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: because it's a different idea of who that is, which

773
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: to your point is super top.

774
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. And I in fact though, like I

775
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: probably got more comfortable with like enjoying clothes and yeah,

776
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: like later in my career, but I wanted to do

777
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: it on my own terms. And yeah, I've never to

778
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: this day heard anything about my appearance from not Not

779
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: not like my looks are time, like the way I

780
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: dress or do from coxecutives or anything like that, which

781
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 3: I think is kind of unusual.

782
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great, you know.

783
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: I think also, like you mentioned, you're so different that

784
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: you don't really fit into the stereotypes that women who

785
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: break through tend to fit into. But you're also not

786
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: a big giant football man. I remember once on Levatar

787
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: show we used to do all of Dan Levittard's many shows,

788
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: I called you the word diminutive, which people thought was critical,

789
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: but what I meant was like, most women who break

790
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: through have to be loud, sort of brash, sort of

791
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: if they're not the very beautiful host type, like the

792
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: opinion givers have this energy, and you just are so chill,

793
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: sometimes even giggly, And that laid back confidence is another

794
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: thing that I think makes you so likable and people

795
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: appreciate it so much in the work you do. But

796
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: that's terrifying to just be like, yeah, yeah, I'm just

797
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: like so chill over here being an Asian woman talking

798
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: about the NFL that I never played in, but you

799
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: do it, Like where do you find that confidence?

800
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: One thing that clicked for me with first Take in particular,

801
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: which is a show I do sometimes during the football season.

802
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 3: I do it regularly in football season, is the first

803
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: when I first started doing it, I was like, Okay,

804
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: I gotta raise my voice because producers we get in

805
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: my ear and be like, you're not talking enough. But

806
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: when I realized that was I think that before I

807
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: did them too. First, take the first Sports Nation. Some

808
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: of the shows I did early on, producers would say like, Hey,

809
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: you have really great information, but I can tell you're

810
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: like tentative to jump in. And one thing I realized was,

811
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: like there was I figured out how to like assert

812
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 3: myself without raising my voice or pretending to be an

813
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: extra outsized version of myself, but like, weirdly just staying

814
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: calm and keeping my voice level but making the like

815
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: taking up my time and also using it to crush

816
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: whatever I was debating with. But if I did it

817
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: in my normal neutral voice, people started responding to that.

818
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, Like so, actually, I don't have

819
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: to be like a fake loud version of me. I

820
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: just have to be confident in what I'm saying. And

821
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: that kind of took some time to things do well.

822
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: And if the other person is extra big, then you

823
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: having the correct facts or making a great point in

824
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: opposition to that while being super chill just hits way

825
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: better than both of you yelling you know, I gotta

826
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: let you go, but I want to ask you. You know,

827
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: you've proved yourself so much in the sports world and

828
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: specifically the NFL this point, do you have any nerves

829
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: about entering the academic realma, needing to prove that you're

830
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: nerdy enough to host the scripts, because could you ever

831
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: have imagined as a youth that you'd be more accepted,

832
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: like breaking down NFL passing concepts than words.

833
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: It's so weird, Sarah, because like doing being in back

834
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: in these spaces like Jeopardy, spelling, all that kind of stuff.

835
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: It's like this part of my brain that I haven't

836
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: been using forever has been activated, and it feels like

837
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: coming home in some ways. But I also feel dumb,

838
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: like you know, yeah, I'm just like, damn, I haven't

839
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: been challenged or I haven't used this part of the

840
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: brain for a while, so it is it's both like

841
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: a return but also a challenge for me. I mean,

842
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: these kids are way smarter than my everyone, so it's

843
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: not like that. But I just, yeah, it is almost

844
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: like I have to inhabit a part of myself that

845
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: I have kept quiet for.

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Over love them.

847
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: That's a weird feeling.

848
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: I love that because I like that feeling of scratching

849
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: the itch in the same way. Sometimes I'll go back

850
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: and read something I wrote a long time ago, like

851
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: in college and I'm like, dang, if I read that,

852
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, piece of like Shakespearean English right now, I

853
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: would have no idea what's going on.

854
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: But I wrote this incredibly brilliant thing about it at

855
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: one point. Where is that?

856
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: Is that still in my brain? Or did I push

857
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: it out so I could tell you who had the

858
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: most home runs in like two thousand and eight, Like,

859
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: I know, damn it, I don't know if I made

860
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: a good swamp there, real I know.

861
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: Okay, last question, you.

862
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Have done almost anything, almost everything, like it's been incredible

863
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: to watch.

864
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: So what's the dream gig that's still out there?

865
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: Well, I'd like to do the geography. Be let's bring

866
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 3: it back. It stopped being televis. I'm gonna, yeah, make

867
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: a plea right now to anyone who's watching or listening

868
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: the National Geographic Geography. But I think they stopped like

869
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty twenty nine. It was during COVID, I believe,

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Speaker 3: and that was an event that Alstrobek used to host,

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Speaker 3: I want braying back the geography. I love geography. I

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Speaker 2: Agreed, So I agreed.

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Speaker 3: I love I love it so much. So yes, that

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Speaker 2: Okay, the word is out there.

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Speaker 1: Also, every time John Oliver does the bit where he

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Speaker 1: like puts a map up of a country and then says, ah,

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Speaker 1: and you didn't even know that's not the country, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I sure didn't. And then he replaces it with a

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Speaker 1: still not it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yep, didn't know that either.

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Speaker 1: So I could benefit from Amina COM's host a geography Bee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a little help in the category. Mina.

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Speaker 2: Always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again Demina for taking the time. Can't wait to

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Speaker 2: We never thought we'd see the day stick around. Welcome

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Speaker 1: It's easy watch WNBA jokes that are actually funny, rating

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Speaker 1: two out of many comedians now given us the giggles

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Speaker 1: jokes is Michael Chay's Tired Jeers on Snel's Weekend Update

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Speaker 1: or Terrible Outdated cracks about a lack of attendance or

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Speaker 1: nobody caring. It's time to add a few new comics

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Speaker 1: to your social media follows, including.

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Speaker 2: Josh Gondlman and Macy Isaacs.

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Speaker 1: Josh, already one of my favorite follows, delivered a dead

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Speaker 1: on accurate take about w NBA crowds recently.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen to a bit of it.

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Speaker 5: I will tell you when I go to a w

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Speaker 5: NBA game, it is clear that I am not a

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Speaker 5: top tier priority fan. And it's okay as all axes.

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00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: It's only one point or another. Not everything has to

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Speaker 5: be about me all the time. I'm not a top toier, priority,

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Speaker 5: top to your priority fan at a WNBA game. Obviously

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Speaker 5: queer women and non binary people and I had no

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Speaker 5: jokes about that. Is that would be rude? Yeah, it

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Speaker 5: would be rude for me. Amazing fund of people for

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Speaker 5: jo anything that is that is meant for them. That's

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Speaker 5: that would be wrong. Me making fun of queer women

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Speaker 5: and non binary people enjoying a w NBA competition would

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Speaker 5: be like the lesbian walking out of a Bruce Springsteen concert.

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Speaker 5: Like a lot of dobe ball guys in there.

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Speaker 2: Look that how is double?

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Speaker 5: What are they doing in there. It's called the safe space. Okay,

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Speaker 5: it's her room, and it's for us. That's the top tier,

944
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Speaker 5: priorqueer women, not binary people. Second tier w NBA fan

945
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Speaker 5: is that's straight women testing me absolute outer boundaries.

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Speaker 2: That they're heterosential.

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Speaker 3: Because women with.

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Speaker 5: Husbands walking in like it's the night, the night that

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Speaker 5: every day taking me away from all this greenness.

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Speaker 3: Every time.

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Speaker 1: As a culturally gay straight woman, pushing perhaps even questioning

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Speaker 1: the boundaries of heterosexuality more and more every day.

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Speaker 2: Yes to everything that Josh said. And then there's Macy.

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Speaker 1: One of Macy's bits involves asking the crowd whether a

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Speaker 1: name belongs to a w team or a Kardashian baby.

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Speaker 1: And it's actually tougher for the non w fans than

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Speaker 1: you think. Here's a little bit of that.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a name, and I want

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Speaker 4: you to tell me if you think it's a w

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Speaker 4: NBA team.

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Speaker 2: Name or a Kardashian baby.

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Speaker 4: First one Sky, that's a team, the Chicago Sky. I

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Speaker 4: think all cities have one of those. I don't know

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Speaker 4: why they got it again, could be worse. I'm glad

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Speaker 4: they're not the Chicago Lady Bulls.

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Speaker 2: That would be worse.

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Speaker 3: Next one is Storm.

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Speaker 2: I like where your head's at.

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Speaker 4: You said both, Storm is a team, Stormy.

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Speaker 2: Is a baby. That's a trick question.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry I had to throw that one in there.

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Speaker 4: Stormy is a baby, Storm as the Seattle Storm.

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Speaker 1: Sadly too real, just too real. And it's the problem

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Speaker 1: when your team name is a singular noun. And that's

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Speaker 1: just a problem I've had for a long time, to

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Speaker 1: be honest. Anyway, give them both of all, we'll put

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Speaker 1: their handles in the show notes. And while we're talking funny,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Secret Handshake. The folks who keep taking

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Speaker 1: aim at Donald Trump with different installations on the National Mall.

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Speaker 1: You might remember that they've done the Golden Toilet or

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Speaker 1: the statue of Trump and his bff Jeffrey Epstein. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: they're back, and this time they have put three functioning

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Speaker 1: arcade games called Epic Fury Straight to Hell on the

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Speaker 1: mall and you can play them. You can also play

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Speaker 1: the game online, so please go check it out before

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Speaker 1: I don't know Ice raids their server headquarters or something

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Speaker 1: and takes it down.

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Speaker 2: Because it's really funny.

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Speaker 1: You can actually play as the President and you can

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Speaker 1: choose to order a diet coke, invade Iran, throw some

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Speaker 1: Epstein files in the fireplace. Just trust me, go check

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Speaker 1: it out. We'll link to the game in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn. Y'all, rate and review. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: See you next week. Good game, MINA, good game secret

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Speaker 1: handshake you any comedian who's still punching down instead of

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Speaker 1: punching up when it comes to women's sports. Good Game

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Speaker 1: with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 1: are Alex Azzi and Bianca Hillier.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are.

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Speaker 1: Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder. Our

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Speaker 1: editors are Emily Rutterer, Lucy Jones, Britney Martinez, and Gianna Palmer.

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Speaker 1: Production assistants from Avery Loftus and I'm your host, Sarah Spain.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.