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Speaker 1: Hey, So when should you cut off a toxic family member?

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Speaker 1: That's the question that we're gonna be answering today with

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Speaker 1: a couple of different stories. We're in beautiful Venice Beach

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Speaker 1: right now. Hello, Hello, Hi, thanks for joining us and

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Speaker 1: the first episode. The first question is am I the

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Speaker 1: a hole for refusing to attend my brother's wedding because

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Speaker 1: he was mean to my baby? He's being your baby?

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Speaker 1: He was mean to my baby? How dare you? Oh, dad, car? Probably,

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Speaker 1: I mean babies are ugly. John actually believes all babies

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Speaker 1: babies are. John hates all babies good. This comes from

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Speaker 1: Leo C. Eight oh eight, also related to John's passwords, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm literally gonna fight you too. There's gonna be acation.

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Speaker 1: Do you shut up? You shut up brightly? Anyways, read

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Speaker 1: the story. So, my brother thirty two male has always

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Speaker 1: been rude to me at thirty four mail, and when

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Speaker 1: I first met my wife thirty three five years ago,

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Speaker 1: he started to be rude to her as well and

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Speaker 1: made fun of her because she's not as educated as him,

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Speaker 1: calling him a little stupid. Wow, that's not cool. So

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Speaker 1: what I did to John all the time, that's true.

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Speaker 1: H How's that college degree coming. Not no John. I

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Speaker 1: love John a smart boy. He's a smart boy. It

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Speaker 1: was a big issue, a lot of fights in my

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Speaker 1: family because of the things they said about my wife,

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Speaker 1: and my parents told us to forgive them. Fine, we did. Fine.

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Speaker 1: Forget doesn't sound like you did. But that doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like you forgave. Like you just moved on. Baby, You forgot?

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Speaker 1: They say, change the timer Riley. Oh my bad, guys,

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Speaker 1: my bad. I got it. Yep, see you later. It's

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Speaker 1: been a great fifteen minutes. Last week, my brother was

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Speaker 1: again making fun of me while we were at my

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Speaker 1: After a while, I had enough and made a comment

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Speaker 1: about his appearance, like you were an ugly You're like

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Speaker 1: like an ugly baby. You look like what John imagines

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Speaker 1: babies to look like. What I know babies look like.

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Speaker 1: John hates babies. I don't hate babies.

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Speaker 2: They're just that you should get from this stream. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, so he immediately became angry and started making

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Speaker 1: including his Beyonce. You know you're a quality person when

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Speaker 1: make fun of the youngest person in the room. Wow,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be me, Bro, You're out here hating on babies.

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Speaker 1: I think it is you.

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Speaker 2: This might be you two months old or not ugly?

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Speaker 1: How how old does a baby have to be for

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Speaker 2: Probably a few weeks. A few weeks, they're like instantly ugly,

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Speaker 1: Someone I want to have some newborn baby picks in

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Speaker 1: the in the discord and John will rate your baby,

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Speaker 1: rate your baby, will raise your great That actually would

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Speaker 1: still hasn't said sorry, and instead is saying I'm at

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Speaker 1: What Riley, dude, look at this? H what oh, let's freak.

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Speaker 1: I also think babies are ugly. Thanks for putting your

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Matt Hatter got always coming in quick with

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Speaker 1: the donos. Thanks for the five bucks. I aged ten

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Speaker 1: years while waiting for you. Love you all. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: we're late. We're out here trying to stream in public.

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Speaker 1: There's bikers going by, there's sand Is that Spiffy Tiffy

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Speaker 1: from the last stream or this stream? Uh? I think

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Speaker 1: that's this stream? Yeah, Spiffy Tiffy. Wow. Ten gifted memberships.

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Speaker 1: Shout out you amazing, We appreciate you. Also, shout out

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Speaker 1: Cross Little Little Snowflakes in the chat for the icebacks,

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think of a of a punishment

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is because if we look back at

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Speaker 2: So I think that it is a reasonable there's a helicopter.

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Speaker 1: Let us know how that was. Let us know if

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Speaker 1: leaving now, Yeah, it'll be good, good for us to know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So what's it was? So you think that is a

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Speaker 1: there is a juicy, thick update. Let's go. Also, Duchess

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Speaker 1: Cassanda says, like the stream for the worm. Queen warm queen,

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Speaker 1: You got an extra right there? Come on over here,

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Speaker 1: she's walking in here. But there is some relevant comments

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Speaker 1: them you were tired of his and his fiance's abuse

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Speaker 1: oh Man, oh Man, I got I got duped by

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Speaker 1: that by that username. Yeah, my brother is an a

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Speaker 1: not coming to the wedding. End of story. Pride if

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Speaker 1: cape Down says, I'd announced this in a group chat,

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Speaker 1: that you're not the least bit interested in supporting someone

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Speaker 1: to grim and barretts he treated you like crap, He

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Speaker 2: Babies can be very can be very ugly.

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Speaker 1: All newborn babies John believes are ugly.

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Speaker 2: What is that from Star Wars?

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Speaker 4: I've seen Star Wars and I know that the.

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Speaker 1: Time to let it slide and laugh it off is over.

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Speaker 1: It's pastime to make a heart boundary and enforce it.

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Speaker 1: Go no contact with him, and you're equally disgusting parents

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Speaker 1: time re establishing contact once they prove they've changed their ways,

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Speaker 1: and block anyone else who tried to give you shit

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Speaker 1: about this. They're less important than your kid. Maybe him

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Speaker 1: and there is an update. But what do you think

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Speaker 1: In the chat. Baby talk, everyone is saying hashtag John

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Speaker 2: That would be hilarious if it was trending on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Can we do that sometime? Baby, let's trund something on

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Speaker 2: John Hates Baby.

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Speaker 1: You know what I would be.

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Speaker 1: of Ducks. You know I have five stars babysitting websites

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Speaker 3: So you're telling me right now? I can have you

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Speaker 2: Dude? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Wait, both of you. I would baby sit the crop

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Speaker 3: the app and do all that. Yeah, I mean, let's

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Speaker 3: You could you wait right now?

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Speaker 4: Not right, I'm right now.

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Speaker 1: It's I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If my profile is still live, but it is possible

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: If you actually find and are able to first person

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Speaker 2: for one night.

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Speaker 1: If you actually do.

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Speaker 2: That, I'm literally not even joking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Both do it?

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Speaker 2: Like that you're nothing, but you're nothing but a filthy.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, glorious and glorious.

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Speaker 4: Gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I want you guys want to come on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Don't my children on podcasts? I don't know where their

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Speaker 2: Don't where are your parents? Stop? Stop?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah we had kids? That was a better format

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 2: While I don't expect them to change necessarily I do

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Speaker 1: Like we we want to be.

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Speaker 2: We want them to have, you know, the paternal grandparents

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Speaker 1: have that multiple times. I don't know if he hasn't

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00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: threatened to like to leave.

442
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're like they're like, you know, we

443
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 2: see all these stories where the grandparents are like cut

444
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: off of the grand baby. Oh no, and then you

445
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: know you seem to like this baby.

446
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: Well, the brother is making fun. I'm I'm I would

447
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: give them this. Your family hate the baby? What did

448
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: grandparents say about the baby? I don't think they've I mean,

449
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: they've not the grandparents of the baby. It's the parents

450
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: of Op. Yeah, yeah, the grandparents, the grandparents of the baby.

451
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean they've kind of just supported the brother It

452
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: sounds like the brothers like a golden child and their

453
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: secondhand calling the baby ugly. Yeah, by support it, it's

454
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: like I support the person that calls the baby ugly. Thus,

455
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: by transitive property, I am calling the baby ugly. That's right,

456
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: And you support John?

457
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true? Am I calling babies ugly?

458
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 5: Me?

459
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: I am? Yeah?

460
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: John? What do you invite a baby on this podcast?

461
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: I can't even talk except for that baby that wants

462
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 2: to go to the hotel.

463
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: That's a great baby. Terrifies me. It just said me.

464
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: It's not it's not special at all. No, no, no, no, baby,

465
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: it's a baby that says, who wants to go to

466
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: the hotel?

467
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 7: Oh me, no, no, no, no.

468
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: Baby's he's conscious, he's.

469
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Got come on the show, the show. Come on to

470
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: the show.

471
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 4: People.

472
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: If any of you guys are here, you guys could

473
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: come right. Always looks good anyway, tell me where they

474
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: want to go. But I that that is the well,

475
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: there's there's a little there's a little edit. So yeah, wow,

476
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: just wow. Dad called quote unquote Dad, I answered, He

477
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: asked if I'm going to be at the wedding told

478
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: him no, why would I go after everything? He says,

479
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: so you want everyone to know about this. I didn't respond.

480
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: He then says to me, I hope you end up

481
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: on the streets. Oh and yeah, not like on the

482
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: streets recording a kick butt podcast, just on the streets. Yeah,

483
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: in a bad way.

484
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: I mean, like the language that they're using towards their own.

485
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: Son is just it's crazy. It's crazy. I say, how

486
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: can you say that? And he responds, yeah, I hope

487
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: you end up in the streets. And I respond, Wow,

488
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: you're really wishing your children end up on the streets.

489
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: He says, yes, you are a bastard, and I hung up.

490
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: This is just too much for me. I have no

491
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: interest in talking to any of them. And that's where

492
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: it ends. That's where it ends. Wait, well, there's some

493
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: relevant comments. Do you want me to read those?

494
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 4: Read the relevant comments? They are very relevant?

495
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: All right, Fine, I'm reading the relevant comments. You're all right,

496
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: too much relevant comments? All right? The worst part is

497
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: your brother isn't the biggest issue in the situation. Your

498
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: parents are enabling his assholary, and when they hear the

499
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: true story, ask you to apologize first, you stood your

500
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: ground and didn't give them what they wanted. This will

501
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: go one of two ways. They'll respect you more and

502
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: won't treat you as a pushover, or they won't talk

503
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: to you. Either way, I think you come out ahead.

504
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: You don't need that type of toxicity around your newborn,

505
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: which is true. It's like this is this is a like, Yes,

506
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: these parents are terrible for op right now, but you

507
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: don't want toxicity anywhere around your children. Yeah, because that

508
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: will only imprint and make things worse.

509
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: At least an adult is like more like aware of

510
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: like Okay, I can go to therapy and work on it.

511
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: The kid is like defenseless.

512
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, kid is defenseless, which is why John loves to

513
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: call them ugly kids. Side note, nice work, Dad, sticking

514
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: up for your child like that while staying calm. If

515
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: anyone in my family made for of one of my children,

516
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: even at their ages, I'd throw hands iron. Mike elevinbe

517
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: says you need to consider cutting them off. He's apparently

518
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: the golden child of the family based on how your

519
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: parents treat him versus how they treat you. You can

520
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: throw reality in their face all day and they will

521
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: still side with them. And Mobius Stripping says, nowhere have

522
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: you said what any of this making fun of consists? Though, Like,

523
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: there's really big difference between saying your newborn is ugly

524
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: and for example, a racial slur. Opie responds, him and

525
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: his fiance have made fun of my wife in the

526
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: past for being darker in color than them. He called

527
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: my baby a racist word.

528
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: Wow, that's why he said that.

529
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 6: The brother was insulting the woman's intelligence and calling the

530
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 6: baby ugly.

531
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: Instantly cut off. Yeah, it's really bad.

532
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everyone says, no contact, Yeah, yeah, no contact.

533
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: Do we have a whole yeah? Nice, no contact, no contact.

534
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: I agree.

535
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: I feel I mean like that the last bit cements it.

536
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: But I feel like, honestly like everything before, even if

537
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: it was mild insults, yeah, cut off, cut off, Yeah, dude,

538
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: but should we hit this next story? Let's do it?

539
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: And uh maybe do or do we get some tripod

540
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: and I should we switch out and we can read

541
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: I can read some we can read some donuts?

542
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, also, Sophia, wait wait, wait, we have a guest.

543
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: We have a guest coming. We have a guest. Oh

544
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: come on, come on, got questions?

545
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, do you want to just show your face.

546
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: He's not a child.

547
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: Don't worry. We know English. He just sits down value.

548
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: I can speak broken Spanish. I think he was friends.

549
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Want to come out plastic interview? You want to join us?

550
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: Where come you come talking to the people? Come sit down?

551
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: Howdy?

552
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

553
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: Oh?

554
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Perfect? Have come sit We have a new friend. Hello, Hello,

555
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: pick a seat in our way?

556
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: What's your name?

557
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Kim? Kim?

558
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: If have you thought of having children or are thinking

559
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: about having children?

560
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

561
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 7: First I was not we need to have it all.

562
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 7: Now I'm really thinking having.

563
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: If someone insulted your baby and called it ugly, uh,

564
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: and it was a close family member, what wou you do?

565
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Would you be mad?

566
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

567
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 7: Of course I would not. I would not handle that.

568
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 7: I mean I would not accept that.

569
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Like how would you not accept it? Would you like

570
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: shove the baby ugly? Aggressor away? Or like would you

571
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: what do you say back?

572
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's a tough question about that.

573
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: Just a story about people calling babies ugly?

574
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I have a few, a couple of nephews

575
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 7: as well, and I thought.

576
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: That a lot, and that they were ugly.

577
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 8: No, that they if people call them ugly or about

578
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 8: her hair or something, like this and how we would react.

579
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 8: And I would say and I would say that I

580
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 8: would be mad at it and I would not accept it,

581
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 8: and I would confront.

582
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 7: The person that say that to her, and I'd say, well,

583
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 7: it's a child, you know.

584
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: And wait, so there's people in your family that are

585
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: calling your nephews and nieces ugly. No not he he

586
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: was thinking, you know, I thought this was entering into reality.

587
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 8: There was an uncle that did it, that called you yeah, yeah,

588
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 8: that's what did he say it? He said about my my,

589
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 8: my fil my, what is called the nephew?

590
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 7: But a woman.

591
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, that make fun of her hair really yeah,

592
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 8: and her mom just like okay, pushing pushing him away.

593
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 8: It was like it was a party, you know, and

594
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 8: uh it was a mess.

595
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, But honestly, good for the mom for sticking up

596
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: for I feel like there's a step dog.

597
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

598
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: I feel like hair is such like a personal thing,

599
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: very very much so.

600
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: And again it's a child like like an adult has

601
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: more wherewithal to like, you know, say something back you

602
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: can handle, but but a kid did, I feel like,

603
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: does not have the tools and could really imprint.

604
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 8: That it didn't make a cause of trauma her and

605
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 8: now yeah, every time that she goes to the bathroom,

606
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 8: he'd like make her hands wet and best in the heir.

607
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 7: So she's not, she's not feel like I need to

608
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 7: have Oh.

609
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: So she that literally changed how she did her hair

610
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: because of that comment. See, the kids are like so

611
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: impressionable and like one mean comment could it could change

612
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: how a kid like you know, feels and their self

613
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: confidence and stuff. So good on the uh, yeah, good

614
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: on the the mom for sticking up and thanks for

615
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: coming on the pod. Sure Brazil. Oh if you're from Brazil,

616
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: is your name Kim Kim? Kim Kim from Brazil. Yeah,

617
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: here's in the chat for Kim coming shot. All right,

618
00:32:53,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: should we hit this next story? Yeah, let's do it. Okay,

619
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: story time. Do you guys want to come on next? Okay,

620
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: wait one second, should we have them come on for

621
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: the story?

622
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

623
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you could be at all like you can

624
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: listen to this story and then you'll judge. Yes, So

625
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: we basically have these stories that people send in and

626
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: you can kind of like give your take and ask

627
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: you for your thoughts and maybe get some context for

628
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: you as well.

629
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: What's your name? Yeah, you've not have four. Hi, Emily,

630
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: this is wait rallies. Oh wait right, because this is Emily,

631
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: She's gonna join and give her thoughts on this next

632
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: story and hold it right up here. Boom perfect. Also, Sylvia,

633
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: could you write a new sign that just says sit

634
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: here if you want to be on our podcast?

635
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

636
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I came here to talk about my mom.

637
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Oh oh, sick, you have a family members story.

638
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: You.

639
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: I actually cut her off for a whole year, So

640
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: don't say anything else, Emily, chill.

641
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: We gotta wait, wait all right, we're gonna we're.

642
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Gonna tell this story and then you're gonna give advice

643
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: based on what you've been through yourself. Okay, sick, Yes,

644
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: we have one.

645
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: There was another, Sophia. I'm seeing a story if I

646
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: didn't invite my brother and his family to my wedding?

647
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: Is this the same, Rare Fennel, This is it's a

648
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: five twenty eight s two. Yeah, five twenty eight s two.

649
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: It looks like the same.

650
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: Would I be the a hole if I didn't invite

651
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: my brother and his family to my wedding? Us? This

652
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: is the different one.

653
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: This is awesome. Okay, okay, right, are you ready, ladies

654
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, here we go.

655
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: So the brothers start talking to you.

656
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: Their in her ears. Would I be the A hole

657
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: if I didn't invite my brother and his family to

658
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: my wedding?

659
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: Wait?

660
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: Wait, Riley needs he needs a sec. Oh, Okay, we're good,

661
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: all right, just kidding? Ready?

662
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: Would I be the a hole if I didn't invite

663
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: my brother and his family to my wedding? Just might

664
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: be I'm gonna go out in a limb.

665
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: This comes from Rare.

666
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Fennel fifty nine to fifty nine, who says a bit

667
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: of a backstory to explain how we got to where

668
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: we are today.

669
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: Sorry, this is gonna be a long read. For this story,

670
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: I will be us fake names.

671
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: My brother now thirty six male will call him Paul,

672
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: me twenty one female or fifteen years apart in age,

673
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: and he is the eldest of all of the siblings.

674
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: About sixty years ago, he found out that he had

675
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: fertility issues when trying for his first daughter. Him and

676
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: his wife, now thirty four female will call her Charlotte,

677
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: went through IVF and had their first daughter back in

678
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and didn't try to have another child again

679
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: until twenty twenty.

680
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: To them because IVF is hard and it does not

681
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: often work, and it's expensive. Not easy, dude, not easy.

682
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: Not easy. When you can't shoot, but you can't shoot,

683
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: you gotta don't leave yourself the boot. You gotta get

684
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: like Scotty. What did Scottie Pippen? Who is the guy

685
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Scotty help and Scotty. Yeah, you gotta. If you're an

686
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: MJ and can't shoot, you gotta have a IBF Scotty,

687
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: that gives you the assists. What an analogy that works?

688
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: That works? Yeah, that works, that works. O'reiley are resident

689
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: basketball expert, which are very good. He did not miss

690
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: any football uh shots to that? Shut up? Shut up,

691
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: shut up. But during that time, I found out that

692
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: I was pregnant.

693
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: Oh.

694
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old at the time.

695
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 5: Oh.

696
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: It wasn't a plan in pregnancy. But me and my

697
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: now fiance twenty two male will call them Leon, had

698
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: the support we needed from my parents. We tried to

699
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: keep it to ourselves as long as we could, but

700
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: with me struggling with morning sickness very badly, my brother

701
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: started a question what was wrong with me?

702
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: So we made the decision to tell uh.

703
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Paul Charlotte and my older brother now twenty seven, David

704
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: and his now wife Emily.

705
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: So Paul and Charlotte are the people that had fertility

706
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: issues and the fertility issues yes, uh, well this caused

707
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: crap to hit the fan.

708
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, See David and Emily, the ones who

709
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: aren't going through IVF were excited for me and uh

710
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: Leon my boyfriend.

711
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: Shoot be dobo doo. There're so many characters in this story. Yeah,

712
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna I'm trying to give you.

713
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: I am very lost. We explain what's going on. So basically, uh,

714
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: OPI has this uh sibling and her husband. They're trying

715
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: to have babies through IVF, like they basically can't have babies.

716
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Op Sorry, op is the author.

717
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: For clarity, Yes, the author just found out she got

718
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: pregnant by accident.

719
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: So we also have a little thing on the show

720
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: we call ice. You put an icy in the comments.

721
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: Uh if you see what's gonna happen it Basically, I'm

722
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: predicting right now conspiracy theory that the sister is going

723
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: to be mad that OPI had a baby so easily

724
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: without IVF.

725
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: I not only think that she's going to be mad,

726
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna want to steal the baby. I

727
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some baby stealing.

728
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 5: This actually happened to my friend you.

729
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: Oh my good, why are you a wealth of crazy stories? Also,

730
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: we're going for another thirty minutes share seventy five seventy

731
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: five tip. I'm in the middle of moving and y'all

732
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: help the time go by. I have a story on

733
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: the subreddit for you guys updates to that. Am I

734
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: the a hole for making my senior parents homeless?

735
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 5: I think that this is where the story's going though,

736
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: because that's like exactly what happened with my friends. Like

737
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: to the tea, Like her boyfriend's sister was like doing

738
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 5: the process of like trying to have a kid and

739
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 5: all that, and then she got pregnant with her boyfriend

740
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: on accident, and then like it became this whole situation yeah,

741
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 5: like crazy, and then she's like coming out to see

742
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 5: her when she's like birthing the child, like immediately wanting

743
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: to hold the kid and everything.

744
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: It was like she wants like a bond with her.

745
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what it was, but it was just

746
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: some crazy like situation where she.

747
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: Was just that is wild.

748
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: We will get more deats on that show the perfectly

749
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: we we lucked out with Emily shout out.

750
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 5: The chat for Emily. Wait, also, I'm in this story.

751
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: Let's go back to this sorry, yes, so doo by

752
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 5: dooby doo uh.

753
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: David and Emily were excited for me and Leon my boyfriend,

754
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: and congratulated us, whereas Paul started to shout and cause

755
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: a scene and then went to the pub with Charlotte

756
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: without saying word. David and Emily made sure that I

757
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: was okay and then went to the pub to try

758
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: and calm Paul and Paul and Charlotte down. My parents

759
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: and I and Leon were stunned at the response, as

760
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: we have always been a close family and just weren't

761
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: expecting the reaction that we got.

762
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Why are they yelling because we don't have reasons? We think,

763
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: we don't know for sure yet.

764
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Later on that week, Paul and Charlotte had the news

765
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: that she was also pregnant, but not long after we

766
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: were called back to say it was a chemical pregnancy

767
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: and they weren't actually expecting, so you can imagine it

768
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: made the.

769
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: Situation a lot. So they thought they were going to

770
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: have another child, but nope, and so now they're going

771
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: to want that baby stealing, baby stealing baby steelers, baby

772
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: stealers on the prowl. It's about to happen. Get ready.

773
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: So Paul and Charlotte stopped talking to me after this.

774
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: This went on for a few months and was also

775
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: interfering and straining my parents relationship with Paul, as my

776
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: parents supported the fact that me and Leon wanted to

777
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: keep the baby with us being so young and due

778
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: to Leon being kicked out of his narcissisity.

779
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: So their parents are like, yes, you not only should

780
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the other kids steal your baby, but we endorse it.

781
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 3: No.

782
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: This went on a few months, and it was also

783
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: interfering and straining my parents' relationship with Paul, as my

784
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: parents supported the fact that me and Leon wanted to

785
00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: keep baby. Okay, so parents are supportivep Op's partner and

786
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: the parents.

787
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 5: Everybody's mad.

788
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stupid because they open So who's mad at who?

789
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: Uh?

790
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: So we have our our evil couple, the evil couple,

791
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Paul and Charlotte. They're mad in everyone. The evil couple

792
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: is just mad at everything because they were trying to

793
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: have a baby and couldn't they Yes, they're like, you're evil,

794
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: You're like, you're having a baby. How dare you? How

795
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: dare your uterus work? First off?

796
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Second off, my parents, how dare you support her having

797
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: a baby and us not being able to steal it?

798
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: We don't know yet that yet, But who are the

799
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: parents mad at? The parents are mad at the evil couple?

800
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: Okay, good parents are on good team good Okay, So

801
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 1: the only people that are evil are this couple. Couple.

802
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: There's the only ones I am here. Here, we are

803
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: reading comprehension there, Hannah. There are so many names, and

804
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: Emily is kind of crushing it right now. She's keeping up.

805
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: She's keeping up. This is true, all right, shout Emily

806
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: for being.

807
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: I've been through this.

808
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 5: I feel like this is last week.

809
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

810
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: So uh Paul Evil Paul made lots of very nasty

811
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: comments to my mom, saying that she was a bad

812
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: mother mother for letting me have the baby, and that

813
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: I would never be a good mother and it was unfair.

814
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: He also stated that he didn't trust me around his daughter,

815
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: my niece. This went throughout my whole pregnancy, and I

816
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: had very little contact with my good uh sibling couple

817
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: David and Emily, as well as UH David and Paul

818
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: working together.

819
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: That's even worse.

820
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: David felt like he couldn't get close to me because

821
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: Paul would have kicked off even more so, I think, uh,

822
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: the evil brother in law and the good brother in

823
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: law work together.

824
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: And and like the good brother in law feels like

825
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: he can't get close to op because he's gonna cause

826
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: me at work. Oh dude, this is so intertouring for

827
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: so many moving parts here.

828
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 5: Why you don't work with family? Fact, Yeah, that's one

829
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 5: of the ten commandments.

830
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 4: You will never work with a family member of family.

831
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Never work with my sister. No. I couldn't imagine working

832
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: with my sister. It would be terrible. It would reason

833
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, Emily just keeps dropping the We need

834
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: to get to Emily's story. To get to story soon.

835
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: So at the beginning of twenty twenty one, I gave

836
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: birth to me and Leo's beautiful son, and I had

837
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: a very traumatic birth which resulted in me nearly passing away,

838
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: and with it still being a lockdown, I was only

839
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: allowed to have my mom in the delivery room and

840
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: in the theater rooms.

841
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: And not long after that I gave birth and she

842
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: had to leave with the birth and the.

843
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: Stress of my family falling apart, I developed really bad

844
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: postpartum depression and also struggled for many months, nearly up

845
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: to a year. This obviously made the Evil couple Paul

846
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: and Charlotte very happy, as they couldn't wait to tell

847
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: everyone that they told us this would happen, Evil Evil.

848
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: At the end of twenty twenty one, me and my

849
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: boyfriend Leo moved into our own place. Leon moved into

850
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: our own place and my parents look after our son

851
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: as my mental health had gotten so bad I nearly

852
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: unlived myself. During this time, Paul and Charlotte, the Evil Couple,

853
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: had gone through another round of IVF and Charlotte became

854
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 2: pregnant with their second daughter.

855
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Do we think, Emily our guests, Do we think they'll stop? Yes?

856
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: Or no?

857
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 5: Stop?

858
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: What stop evil?

859
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: Now?

860
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Evil talk about talk stop being evil.

861
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: So fast forward a year later, at the beginning of

862
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, My mental health had gotten a lot better,

863
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: and our son moved in with us as I was

864
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: able to look after him again. With still no contact

865
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: from Evil Paul and Charlotte for over a year, I

866
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: had nearly given up on our relationship, even with my

867
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: attempts to get a hold of them, sending birthday cards, presents,

868
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: Christmas presents, and then in the summer of twenty twenty two,

869
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Paul reached out to me and asked to meet Evil Paul.

870
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: Evil Paul.

871
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: We had a coffee, not an evil coffee, and sat

872
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: down and spoke about random things at first, which was

873
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: very awkward, but after about an hour he said he

874
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: wanted to move forward and start anew start again. I

875
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: agreed and said I just wanted my brother back. With

876
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: no apology from him, I still decided I would let

877
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: it go and move on.

878
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: Emily, would you have let it go?

879
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

880
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Chatter Emily, Emily's forgiving the bigger person, bigger park goodness.

881
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: I would see Paul every once in a while for

882
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: family events, but never met up one on one after

883
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: that of mission initial meeting. Skip to spring twenty twenty three,

884
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: David and Charlotte, the good sibling of the good sibling couple,

885
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: got married. Me and Paul had some conversations, but not many.

886
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: A few months after that was my twenty first birthday.

887
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Op is literally so young.

888
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: Going through all this. By the way, yeah, got pregnant

889
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: a few months after that. Was my twenty first birthday.

890
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: David and Emily the Good the good people bought me

891
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: a really nice birthday gift, and I got a text

892
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: from Paul that evening of my birthday wishing me a

893
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: happy birthday. No card, no present, even though the month

894
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: before I had given him a birthday card and a

895
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: small present.

896
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: Also so thoughtful at twenty one, right, that's crazy with

897
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: a baby with a baby, it was part of she's

898
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: doing the most, and also she was trying to repair

899
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: the relationship when they were the aggressors.

900
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: Correct a mundo and I got a move, Emily move.

901
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: That is an Emily move, Ladies and gentleman. There have

902
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: been a few instances since then where he has gotten

903
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: drunk and told my mom that she's a terrible mother,

904
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: or saying that he that he was hard he had

905
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: a hard time as a kid, and blaming my parents

906
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: for his anger issues and drinking problems, even though my

907
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: childhood was difficult with experiencing my dad's depressive episodes, and

908
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: at that point Paul had already moved out of the

909
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: family house and was living with Charlotte. He was very

910
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: much he very much had the most privileged childhood out

911
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: of the three siblings. Fast forward to the summer of

912
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. I briefly saw Paul and Charlotte at Christmas,

913
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: but didn't speak much. And not long after Christmas, it

914
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: was my son's birthday, where I didn't receive a card

915
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: or a present or even a message from Paul or

916
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: Charlotte to wish him a happy, happy birthday. And now

917
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: to Mother's Day. My parents hadn't heard from Paul and

918
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: Charlotte since Christmas, so like, like what five months later

919
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: something like that? Good?

920
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: True, no contacting themselves, and they came around.

921
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: He went over to their house and gave my mom

922
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: a card which had a letter in it stating that

923
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: he hadn't contacted them since Christmas because he was upset

924
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: with them. He proceeded to once again tell my mom

925
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: how bad of a mother she was and how she

926
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: never sick up for him or helps him, which is

927
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: not true. My parents have always dropped plans and things

928
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: to go help him in any way they can, just

929
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: like they do for me and my other brother David.

930
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: He also told my mom that she was childish and

931
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: shouldn't rely on us children to look after her and

932
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: my dad, which they had never done. And he also

933
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: said lots more, but that's basically the gist of it.

934
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: Oh he's so stinky, So racing the end of the

935
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: story here after nearly four years of not really having

936
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: a relationship and all the hurtful things Evil Paul and

937
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: Evil Charlotte have said and done, them not wishing my

938
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: son a happy birthday, and what he said to my

939
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: mom was sort of the last straw. I don't want

940
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: to pay money for him to come to my wedding

941
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: and pretend to be my brother when he hasn't been

942
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: one to me for nearly four years. So would I

943
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: be the a whole if I did not invite my brother,

944
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: Evil Paul and his family.

945
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: To my wedding.

946
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say yes, talk to me. Break it down

947
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 5: because it's only four years. Like in the span of things,

948
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 5: your whole life, you're twenty one years old, Like what

949
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 5: is four years to twenty one years? Like you spent

950
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: so much more life with him, You grew up with him,

951
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 5: Like you guys had memories that had to be good.

952
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 5: There wasn't always bad memories. There wasn't always bad times.

953
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: And it's like, what are you gonna do?

954
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: Get stuck?

955
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 5: In this like, oh, like he want like had this

956
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 5: bad time with during IVF and took it out on me.

957
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 5: And it's like, are you gonna like sit here and

958
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 5: dwell on that or are you gonna like he came

959
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 5: and he apologized, he wants to move forward. Obviously he's

960
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 5: still struggling with things like alcohol and like that's a

961
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 5: really really tricky thing to deal with, so addiction. I

962
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 5: would I think you're an asshole if you don't invite

963
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 5: him to your wedding and you're only continuing to cause

964
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 5: more conflict in the relationship and you're not doing anything

965
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: to be better and you're just as sick and scary

966
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 5: as he is if you don't him, like because what

967
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 5: you're just stooping down to his level if you don't.

968
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Is there anything that would make you not invite him?

969
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: Like I mean yeah, like you're a sex fender, you're violent,

970
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 5: you have charged it Like there's some things, yeah, but

971
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 5: like in this scenario, like it's just about fucking having kids.

972
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 5: Sorry excuse my language.

973
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: It's like family, appreciate I do have a potty milk.

974
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: I just think that people go through things and they

975
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 5: deal with it differently, and they shouldn't just because somebody

976
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 5: else dealt with something in a way they wouldn't necessarily

977
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: have dealt with it themselves. They shouldn't act in any

978
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: way or like trying like that. Like this story just

979
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 5: kind of seems like, oh, like I'm trying to like

980
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 5: justify my actions and not wanting to be around him.

981
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 5: Like you you're valid in all your reasons to not

982
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 5: want to be around him, but it is your family.

983
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 5: People are gonna look at you weird if you don't

984
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 5: invite your brother.

985
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Potentially, but also and like I definitely do think there

986
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: would be like a more toxic family dynamic or a

987
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: more complicated family dynamic because maybe the parents would be sad,

988
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: or the other brother might be sad that you didn't

989
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: invite the evil brother. But there might be something to say,

990
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: is like, this is your wedding day. What if that

991
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: brother lashes out again, yeah, and makes it about him

992
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: and makes it about him and ruins that day.

993
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: And also like, op feel like that's like her, she

994
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 5: needs to come to and like have this conversation with him, yeah,

995
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 5: and like come to some kind of understanding like beforehand,

996
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 5: like don't just straight up not invite him to be

997
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna invite you, but there are gonna be

998
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 5: so ground rules exactly.

999
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like I feel like so it's like four

1000
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: years in at this point, I feel like almost like

1001
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: going going one level further, like, hey, we need to

1002
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: have a talk about like our relationship as like brother

1003
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: and sister, and like you keep saying these things and

1004
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: doing these things, and like it really hurts me and

1005
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: I want to have a relationship and have you know,

1006
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: my kids have their uncle and aunt in their life.

1007
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: But like I I'm going to ask for some respect

1008
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: in return. And yeah, I think you can.

1009
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 5: I think you can set a nice way of going

1010
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 5: about it. But I think that you're an asshole by

1011
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 5: him straight up, just like don't even acknowledge.

1012
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Mm, well we'll ask you guys in the chat. Baby

1013
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: is also they want your take sovia.

1014
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy, uh what happened?

1015
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 4: Okay, So.

1016
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 6: I think I will I will have to say I

1017
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 6: think that Op doesn't have to invite her brother just

1018
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 6: because after all, like I think there were too many,

1019
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: too many times or he she reached out to him

1020
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 6: before and he just didn't, Like.

1021
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: How many chances do you give someone before you say,

1022
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: like I don't want to jeopardize one of the most

1023
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: also say hey, I.

1024
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 6: I don't think our relationships ready. I don't think I'm

1025
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 6: ready to have you at my wedding. However, I would

1026
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 6: like to keep trying to fix this. I just don't

1027
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 6: think I can have you there right now. Something like

1028
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 6: that where it keeps it open for further kind of fixing,

1029
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 6: but not necessarily having him at the wedding to kind

1030
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 6: of you know, where he could potentially mess it up.

1031
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: But Emily, you've had intimate experience with this, right because

1032
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: you said you cut to cut out a toxic family member.

1033
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: So what was the line for you where you're like,

1034
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: I actually do need to take the move to cut

1035
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: out a family member. O.

1036
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 5: Mine was like really extreme. My mom like left me

1037
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 5: at burning Man with no food or water and it

1038
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 5: was one hundred and twenty degrees out there.

1039
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: Though, oh goodness, this is about like a.

1040
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: I'll put your put your mic closer to your one.

1041
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: You're twenty one.

1042
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, So she left me out there neil food or water.

1043
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 5: I was like, what was the circumstance two middle fingers

1044
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: and said, you.

1045
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: Know, wait, what happened before that?

1046
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 5: That she just the people at her camp were saying

1047
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 5: that I wasn't participating enough. I needed to go help more.

1048
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 5: But I was actually like suffering from extreme like heat exhaustion. Yeah,

1049
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 5: And they were like trying to have me inside of

1050
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 5: an enclosed tent over a stove cooking soup degrees in

1051
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 5: the intent cooking nice and cold, right, Like wow, I'm like, okay,

1052
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: so you guys want throw up seasoning, right, because like

1053
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: that's what's going in. But so then we came back

1054
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 5: home from that.

1055
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: I like, how did you get back home?

1056
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 5: I drove there, so like I met her out there

1057
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 5: and like it was like a whole thing. Actually, no,

1058
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 5: I found a ride. I didn't try. I found a

1059
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 5: ride there home from a nice man, nice gentleman.

1060
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: And then.

1061
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 5: She came to my house and started like screaming at me,

1062
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 5: calling me alsore of names.

1063
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: What was she saying.

1064
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 5: It's like so just like really like just like you know,

1065
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 5: like vulgar things, just every name in the book that

1066
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 5: you call a person you don't like. So it was

1067
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 5: just really awful. And I told her to leave and

1068
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 5: I said, don't let the door hit you on the

1069
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 5: way out. And I'm like and she's like, ah, called

1070
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: me a couple of months after that, and she's like,

1071
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 5: come help me move. And I show up to help

1072
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: her move. Come help me move. So I show up

1073
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 5: to help her move and she's like, you're late. You're late.

1074
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 5: It's twelve o'clock. I told you to be here by eight.

1075
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm sorry, Like you're lucky that I'm

1076
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 5: even here right now. I was gonna come at four.

1077
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's like the period, yeah. Period.

1078
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: And then so she's screaming and she's crying and she's

1079
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 5: like yelling in my face, don't you ever call me

1080
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 5: for help. I'll never help you ever again. And so

1081
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 5: I just like I was like, okay, ever calling you

1082
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 5: ever for help or anything.

1083
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: And that was it.

1084
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 5: I didn't talk for a whole year. Uh that was

1085
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 5: last May.

1086
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: Last May.

1087
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: So then this May I went and I saw the

1088
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: dead at the sphere and I was like whoa, whoa,

1089
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 5: Like this is crazy, and like I just had like

1090
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 5: this overwhelming urge to call her, and so I did.

1091
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: What do you say?

1092
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 5: Nothing?

1093
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: I said nothing, just called her.

1094
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 5: I just called her. We were on FaceTime, flipped the

1095
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 5: phone around, I just showed her the sphere. I'm like,

1096
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 5: oh my god, Mom, look like I'm at this sphere.

1097
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 4: Then I hung up.

1098
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: That was it was that cathartic at all.

1099
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: I don't know, it made me. It gave me like

1100
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: an adrenaline rush for sure. I was like, oh my god,

1101
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: I just talked time mom.

1102
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: Crazy.

1103
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, and like I haven't talked to my sister

1104
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 5: going on two years now, because like that that's a

1105
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: different situation, Like we've just always had like a really terrible,

1106
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 5: terrible family dynamic. Yeah, since my parents got divorced when

1107
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 5: I was a kid. But my sister and me stopped

1108
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 5: talking because I flew all the way to London there. Yeah,

1109
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 5: she's an opera singer in London, and I took some

1110
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 5: time off work. I like saved all this money, bought

1111
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 5: all these excursions, pay for our hotel room, all this shit,

1112
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 5: and then like we went to Amsterdam. We like we

1113
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 5: were living the good life. We were having so much fun.

1114
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: It seemed like everything was fine. And then at the

1115
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: end of the trip she just was like, you owe me,

1116
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 5: it was so fucking it was terrible hanging out with you.

1117
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: You thought you had a good time. She's like comes

1118
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: back and says, nah.

1119
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like I don't think I'm gonna see you.

1120
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 5: Wait for the next six months, we're not gonna talk.

1121
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, It's like yeah.

1122
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 5: And at first it was just like I was angry.

1123
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 5: I was feeling a lot of anger, and I was

1124
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 5: like lashing out on her, telling her like how dare you?

1125
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 5: Who do you think you are? Like you don't know

1126
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: half the things I went through and you're sitting here

1127
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: trying to tell me like a sob story, prime a river,

1128
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: build a bridge and get over it.

1129
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Oh talk that talk Emily, But like what do you

1130
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: think like you could do or is it do you

1131
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: have any desire now to try to Like yeah, for sure, I.

1132
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 5: Do feel like I want a relationship with my sister

1133
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 5: because she's fun to be around and we can't have

1134
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 5: a good time. But it's like we're so different.

1135
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1136
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: I actually recently, like after I had that conversation with

1137
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 5: her at this sphere, like we talked for like thirty

1138
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: minutes on the phone. So it's been like, Okay, it's

1139
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: that's better.

1140
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: Ye're not talking for a year to a cool video

1141
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: at the sphere to now a couple of minutes on

1142
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: the phone that feels like it might be on.

1143
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, my therapist is very proud of me, your therapist.

1144
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: So much for coming on this, Emily, thank you, thank

1145
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: you and shout out to chat.

1146
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 5: And being so nice.

1147
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: Of course, it is getting chilly.

1148
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: Also, to be clear, this is my face of being cold.

1149
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: Okay, story tom Oh my goodness.

1150
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 4: Oh I have to leave in like five minutes.

1151
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: Next story, Sophia, do you want to read one before

1152
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: you leave?

1153
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: You don't know if I have to leave like like

1154
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: now right now?

1155
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1156
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: Fine, all right, so leaving news for like a little

1157
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: bit so I could take a wi a quick wei,

1158
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: a quick wee.

1159
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: I know.

1160
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1161
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

1162
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: All right, yay, blame if you were nice, and make

1163
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: sure you continue to be nice to anyone that comes

1164
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: on the street. Behave your self, chat, behave, behave. The

1165
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: queen is leaving, yes, right, what's the temp? It's like

1166
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: windy sixties and windy. I miss wait to be aware

1167
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: of the lights, all right here?

1168
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: Right?

1169
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: All right?

1170
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait, Sophie, let's see you thinking.

1171
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I'm gonna run behind John watch us.

1172
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so cold.

1173
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: There he goes.

1174
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: Running. He's over there. He's a speedy man. All right.

1175
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: Should we do Story three? Shorty do it all right?

1176
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: All ready for this next one? Yea, here Sophia. For

1177
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: the few minutes, I don't know if Emily was high.

1178
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 4: Also, to be clear, everyone was saying I was making faces.

1179
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: I was just cold.

1180
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, Sophia. I saw Sophia's face issues.

1181
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: Like, I was just cool. I am okay, I'm gonna

1182
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: be completely honest. For a second, Sophia let out a

1183
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: little shiver, and I thought she was crying.

1184
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: At first, but then I realized it wasn't that.

1185
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: It was like Sophia, all right, oh true, Yeah, we

1186
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: should we do mine a little bit nice and bright?

1187
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Does that look Sophia?

1188
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 4: It looks good?

1189
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: Show the other one? So one? Al right, I think

1190
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, all right, how do we look y'all?

1191
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: How are we looking y'all? Ah?

1192
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 5: Right?

1193
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: Shall we get into let's well, I guess everyone's high

1194
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: in Venice. True, What do you expect? Yeah? All right?

1195
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: So am I the a hole for not letting my

1196
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: sister in law's family stay with me after she gives birth? Hmm,

1197
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need context. I'm gonna give you that context,

1198
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: usually throw away account. My brother and his wife are

1199
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: expecting their first child. This summer. My sister allows from

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01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: a different country and her first trimester was not easy,

1201
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: and I know that she misses her family a lot.

1202
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: Her parents are planning to stay with them for a

1203
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: year when the baby's born, with a quick trip home

1204
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: in between so they don't overstay their visa. She was

1205
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: thrilled that they could do this. She recently asked if

1206
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: her sister and her sister's family, husband and two children

1207
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: under the age of six could also come out with

1208
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: her parents and stay with me, because they won't all

1209
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: fit at their house. But she wants them to stay

1210
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: for six months, and that was the context I was

1211
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: looking for. Six months. Asked if her sister and her

1212
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: sister's family, husband and two children under the age of six,

1213
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: So it's four people and als for six months.

1214
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: That's a long time.

1215
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: Is that is insane? Too long? Oh? Absolutely, I think

1216
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: it's a little along. It's a little long. What's the

1217
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: longest you'd let your family stay in your house? Put

1218
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: your answers in the chat. I love to know. Spam it.

1219
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: Spam it in the chat, spam it. But six months, Yeah,

1220
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: six months is a long time. I asked if maybe

1221
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 1: they could do two to three weeks or even a month,

1222
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: but she wasn't happy. Also, do we have the notion

1223
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: set up? Yeah?

1224
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: What story are we on?

1225
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: We are at five twenty eight s three? Oh sorry,

1226
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: sorry guys. By five twenty eight, we also know the

1227
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: whole saying says my username is about blood is thicker

1228
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: than water. The actual saying is the blood of the

1229
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: Covenant is thicker.

1230
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: Than the water of the womb.

1231
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: Oh, those that fight by your side, respect you and

1232
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: support you are your family, not who you once shared

1233
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: a womb with. Dude, that the real like the blood

1234
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: of the covenant.

1235
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: Quote the blood of the covenment. That's all.

1236
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: That's for real.

1237
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: Wow, that's dope, Pretty.

1238
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: Pretty dope, pretty dope. Oh but we got the story up.

1239
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: We got the story up, so we're gonna keep going.

1240
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Do I come on? No, got to see for you

1241
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: right here, you got a seat right here, We'll be

1242
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: back all right. Sounds good?

1243
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 2: So?

1244
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: Uh, six months? I asked two to three months, but

1245
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: she was like no. Uh. She wasn't happy about that

1246
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: at all because she really wants her sister to be

1247
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: here to help too. Am I the a hole for

1248
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: thinking that this is unreasonable and feeling imposed upon her

1249
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: family would not be able to drive, and I live

1250
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: thirty minutes away from my brother and I work, so

1251
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to drive them to see her

1252
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: every day. And I don't think my brother will have

1253
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: time to pick them up every day. Technically I have

1254
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: the space, but I like my quiet time. And having

1255
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: four people that I've never met stay with me for

1256
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: six months feels overwhelming. Yeah, I can imagine that feeling

1257
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: a little overwhelming. That's so insane. Six months is so long.

1258
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: My god, six months is so long, and it's like,

1259
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they're being passed from family member

1260
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: to family member, but I don't know. A bunch of

1261
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: people are saying. Be is saying, not the a whole,

1262
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: Denise saying not the a hole. They're saying, do we

1263
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: get to guest hosts if we see you in the wild? Yeah,

1264
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: if you want to come.

1265
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: Over, Oh yeah absolutely, Venice Beach, Yeah.

1266
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: Pull up, yeah, thirty eight. Actually, if y'all are in Venice,

1267
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 1: we would love to meet you, to meet you with you, Yeah,

1268
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: we will absolutely. We'll take two, well, well three, Well

1269
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I'll use my retro camera I brought it. Oh yeah,

1270
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: Riley will take a really dope picture of us. Yeah,

1271
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: so come on up if you're here anyway, so tell anything.

1272
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: I have the space. They don't speak English, so it

1273
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: would be able to awkward in the beginning. The plan

1274
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: is the homeschool the older child while they're here. The

1275
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: younger one isn't of school age yet. I don't fully

1276
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: understand the husband's job, but apparently he's able to do

1277
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: it remotely. That would mean he's on calls and video

1278
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: meetings in the middle of the night though.

1279
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: That is ridicularly this already it was like absolutely not

1280
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: every single thing.

1281
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: It's like like no times two, no times three, no

1282
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: times four, no, no, no no no, no, no, no

1283
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: no dude. And like like the kids are homeschools are

1284
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: they're out there all the time. Terrible awful dude, Yeah, awful.

1285
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: That would suck. That would be so you would get

1286
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: no rest, You would get no rest at all.

1287
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: You can literally he'll be on calls at night, so

1288
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: you can't sleep. The kids are running around all day,

1289
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: so you can't nap or have any peace. Yeah.

1290
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely, pretty whack, pretty whack. But we got more story

1291
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: to go. You got more story to goeh, So I

1292
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: understand that it's hard to have a baby so far

1293
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: from your family, and I want to be supportive of

1294
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: my sister in law. I've been firm in my stance

1295
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: that a six month visit is too long, which he's

1296
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: pretty upset with me and her and my brother hasn't

1297
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: been speaking to me for a couple of weeks. So

1298
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: now I'm wondering if I'm just being cruel or selfish.

1299
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: Here there is an edit with more context. But do

1300
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: you think OPI's the ahole for not letting his sister

1301
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: in law's family stay with me after she gives birth?

1302
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 5: No?

1303
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: Times a million.

1304
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. No, no more context. I think like,

1305
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: I think you could say, like, hey, if you wanna,

1306
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: cause I guess it's close to where they're delivering the baby,

1307
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: do we know?

1308
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: So close to the closer to the whole family grool.

1309
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: They're expecting their first child in summer. Sister laws from

1310
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: a different country, and her first trimester wasn't easy, so

1311
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 1: she wants to be close to family, and her parents

1312
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: are planning to stay with him for a year when

1313
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: the baby is born, and so the setting up this

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Speaker 1: time to spend with family, but right now they can't

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Speaker 1: that the parents can't fit everyone in there. So they

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Speaker 1: want to, uh, they want to put them in their house,

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Speaker 1: Opie's house.

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Speaker 8: You know what, Like.

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Speaker 2: The Opie shouldn't do this, But I'd almost rather be like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna rent out a room and give you some

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: of that to like help pay for like a I mean, if.

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Speaker 1: They have the money. But yeah, the mental sanity would

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: be ideally you you rent something, so it can like

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Speaker 1: you can you can have your own space. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: we'll see.

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Speaker 2: So there is an edit.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much everyone for your comments and for

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Speaker 1: helping me to feel much better that I was not

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Speaker 1: being unreasonable. I'm reading through all the comments, but wanted

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: to reply to a few ideas that many had shared.

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: Lily x Pilie says, like one week out of the

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: month sounds more reasonable than the six month time span. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kimberly says, not selfish when you're paying to live there

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: and they aren't. But going back to the edit, my

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: brother and sister Lawa cannot afford a short term rental,

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Speaker 1: nor can her family. But beyond that, in her culture,

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: it would be considered rude to put them up somewhere

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Speaker 1: else if family can accommodate them. I believe they briefly

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01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: looked at airbnbs and short term rentals, but in addition

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: to the expense her family's lack of permanent status for

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: that long of a stay, there might have been concern.

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: Not sure the exact details are convos and maybe they

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: just told me that to make it seem like they

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: had no other option. But bottom line, they can't afford it.

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01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: So if they're going to be out on the street,

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: does that change something. Well, here's the thing, They're going

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: just to be close to family. It's like it's not

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent necessary, you know what I mean? Like right,

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: like they could stick in their home country.

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Speaker 2: And I and I a thousand percent like feel for them,

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: and it's like hey, like coming out to visit, like hey,

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01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: we can host you for a bit, and or like

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like there could be some

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: sort of such situation where it's like, hey, you guys

1355
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: could come, maybe the parents could take care of the

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Speaker 2: babies and you could go on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's some sort of something there where

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: they could get like a little break or whatever. Yeah,

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: but six months I also wonder if op it sounds

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: like Ope is doing well enough that they could have

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01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: they have space in the house. Maybe they subsidize some

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01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: of the airbnb so that OP has their own space

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01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: and the family has I would offer it.

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: Again, we're kind of assuming they have some disposable income,

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: some monetary amount to help them get over there, or

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: alternative idea. What about the parents going to their homego

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 2: ope's parents going to their home country. Oh oh, like

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01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: follow the family to them, bring the family to them. Yeah.

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01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: Oh, people don't like to move though. But yeah, I

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: mean it's a better idea that listen than this than

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Speaker 1: six months. Yeah. But two, thank you to all who

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Speaker 1: pointed out some of the potential legal issues with the

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: husband work working remotely here on a Torus visa, and

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01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: the sticky situations that could come out of being here

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: for so long. I had not consider that, and I

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: really appreciate the device. And Three, if she were to

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: go back to her home country with the baby instead

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Speaker 1: of everyone coming here, my brother could only stay for

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: a few weeks, and ironically her family doesn't have room

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: for them to stay with them. I also wonder if

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Speaker 1: it's like trying to get the baby citizenship in the US. Oh,

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: the baby is not born yet, so my brother and

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01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: wife are expecting their first child this summer.

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01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: So okay, boom, here we go. I would love to

1385
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: host you. You know, come, come right before you're expecting.

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: The baby can get born here and get citizenship, you rest,

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01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 2: you stay here. Maybe maybe the the the mother of

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Speaker 2: the baby stays a little longer when she's recovering after delivery,

1389
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: and maybe the rest rest of the family can stay

1390
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: at that less people can come and stay at the

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: grand the baby's grandparents house. You get your baby's citizenship,

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: You get to come here during the birth, the most

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01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: stressful time.

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01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: But we'll let you rest months, just not for six months.

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01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: Why do they need to stay. I don't understand why

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: they need to stay for six months exactly. That feels

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01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 1: like overkill. Yes, but that's the end of that story.

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01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 1: There we go, Hello, gentlemen, do you have on no

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01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: and shure a little bit? All right, we'll be here.

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll see but yeah, that's where that story ends.

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01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I think, like, I basically think that they're

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: asking for way too much and there's a compromise here

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: where op can't, like, for instance, stay while you deliver

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: the baby. That to me seems like a great like

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: in between a lot of value for a great offer.

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: For he said, like down to do a month op?

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: He was down to me, that's amazing. Yeah, maybe two

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: to three weeks. But she wasn't happy about that at

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01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: all because she really wants her sister to be here

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: to help too. So it's like they basically want six

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: months of childcare. But question raising a baby? Does it?

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: How much harder? Like how much easier is it raising

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: a six month old than a baby? Oh, a newborn?

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: I think it would be mass massively harder because like,

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01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 2: for one, uh, the baby's sleep schedule I think is

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: set at six months, but when it's a newborn, it's

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 2: just all over the place.

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: Right right. I don't know that for a fact. I

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: guess that like they're trying, they're trying to get help

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: from the family during I understand that trying to get

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01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: help from the family during the most important time in

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: the baby's life also can like a month old baby, why,

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 1: I have no idea, bro, why by like go on

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: a plane in a month? On a plane? Yeah? Chat

1425
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: up chat chat, put w's in the chat. Yeah, and

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01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: also tell us if a baby can fly?

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01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: Please?

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I do think it is

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: a massive ask, and I think op is fine and

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 2: saying hey, that's Opie's offer is more than generous enough.

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: I think, like, I mean, truly, you don't even have

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01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: to offer anything. But I think like two to four weeks,

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: two to three weeks whatever is fantastic.

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also there says six months old aren't really easier.

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: Both are easier than a toddler, but six months is

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01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: a lot of work. Six months is easier. I have

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01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: an eight month old. Six month is harder. I was like,

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: we're trying to split.

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: And also Jellybud says you can't fly really late into

1442
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: pregnancy because of babies. Douca says, if you don't like

1443
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: the stream, what the heck are you doing? Like the

1444
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: stream already?

1445
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 5: Do it?

1446
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: Like it?

1447
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: Like it? You're here? Do you even want to spin

1448
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: the wheel? Come on, let's get the wheel. Look look

1449
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: where we are. Let's spin the wheel out here is great? Yeah,

1450
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: maybe make it happen. That is want to come on

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01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: right now? Thanks?

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 5: Man?

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: Oh but that's into the like that that story