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Speaker 1: Celebrity Book Club. Who's that knocking at the door. It's

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Speaker 1: all your friends, your filthy horse, your husband's gone, and

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Speaker 1: we've got books on a bottle of wind to kill.

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Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook, it's memoirs. Marteenis Celebrity

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Speaker 1: Book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club.

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Speaker 1: Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys

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Speaker 1: are alloud. Celebrity book say it loud and cloud Celebrity

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Speaker 1: book Club. Buzz Man. I brought the queer foe hey

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Speaker 1: best friend, Oh my god, Stephen Phillips horst Um. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's just kind of get us all out and open.

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Speaker 1: Let's be super honest because this podcast is all about honesty.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to the red table. So we fully just

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Speaker 1: recorded in an episode. We fully record an EPISO. We

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Speaker 1: invited Um Wheeler, Um, famous wine guy of Upstate New

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Speaker 1: York and the greater world. We invited someone of deep

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Speaker 1: wine experience to come join the VIP Lounge, and we thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're just going to kick back, have some wine, to

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Speaker 1: taste some wine, classic VIP stuff. As as it unfolded,

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Speaker 1: were grassed one Wheeler's hilarious and genius, and we realized

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Speaker 1: that wine is a story. Wine is a book. It's

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Speaker 1: I mean like the Bible. I mean it's almost like

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Speaker 1: a sister to the Bible. Episode. Yes, Jesus made made wine,

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Speaker 1: and wine is the oldest thing in the world, and

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Speaker 1: the Bibles the second older. But like wine came first,

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Speaker 1: and each bottle is a different book. So in many ways,

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Speaker 1: we just read five five books. And by reading five books,

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Speaker 1: I mean drank five bottles of one king of each bottle. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: so escalates. What you're about here is um as a

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Speaker 1: full talk about wine, and again is the book? Whine

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Speaker 1: is the book? Please enjoy. We're always talking about alcohol

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Speaker 1: mean sometimes we're having like one beer in the studio.

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Speaker 1: I know, and wine happens, of course, but I want

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Speaker 1: to lift the curtain, open the curtain. Yeah, today we're

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Speaker 1: actually going right to the vineyard, right to the source.

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Speaker 1: such a special guest here with us. We have someone

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Speaker 1: feel like one of the most famous wine people in

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Speaker 1: the world. In my Yeah, absolutely, world is a relative term.

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Speaker 1: In your world is a beautiful world. All the way

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Speaker 1: from Hudson, New York. He's putting out a cookbook with

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Speaker 1: Little Debs. Maybe you've heard of it. I don't know. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. One of the chicest cool upstate queer

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Speaker 1: restaurants in existence. We're talking about none only then the

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Speaker 1: wine guy, Wheeler Wheeler. That is how I require all

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Speaker 1: greetings to be said. I require my name to be

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Speaker 1: shouted by multiple people anytime before I start speaking. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to be here and a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: watch you both putting your money where your mouth is

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Speaker 1: in terms of drinking, because you thank you do talk

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Speaker 1: talk about a cocktail. No, and now you're going to

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Speaker 1: So I'm at this now closed down, very cheek restaurants Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back two thousand and eight. I'm there with

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Speaker 1: my ex girlfriends. She works there. We're dining there for

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Speaker 1: Just there's the story. This guy the waiter opens up

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Speaker 1: It's Clementine Phyllis's daughter, Like it's brunch on the nose.

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Speaker 1: start them off as this just for a toast, and

420
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: see who does. I would also say, if I'm going

421
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: to be we're being honest here and only honesty in

422
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: the whisper room. In the whisper room, that's the name

423
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: of that's the name of the VIP club is the

424
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: whisper room. That's where the dances happen. So this I

425
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: would also give to a certain type of like, um,

426
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: straight couple of a certain age who like bonappetite is

427
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: their bible and they're forty seven. It's like he's wearing

428
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: the blue French workman's jacket. This is so I saw

429
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: this couple. I went to this. Have you been to

430
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: King Mother? No? Not to wine bar? By me, um

431
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: and by me? By me, I own it. Do you know?

432
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: It's in Lilyville. But what's interesting about this one is

433
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: at the end there is this it's getting like my mouth.

434
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: It's it's looking for water because it's dry in this

435
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: funkier way that I do like, that's this is reminding

436
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: me of um. In Bianca Boscar's book Corkdork, she talks

437
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: about this thing where she's like, when people say they

438
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: want a dry wine, they're usually not saying dry as

439
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: and not sweet. They mean tanic. They want something's going

440
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: to dry their mouth or alcoholic. Yeah. So the next

441
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: question is, ok, let's say you two win the lottery

442
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: and together, no separately, this is joint ticket. And that

443
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: gets so dark. You win the lottery and first you're

444
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: super great and good and you like donate and redistribute

445
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: the wealth, but you let yourself have like one crazy purchase,

446
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: like it could be like a jet ski or like

447
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: a car or a like what is one like salt

448
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: water pool? You knew it? Okay, where is that going

449
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: in your apartment? No? I think it's like I'm quote

450
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: unquote redistribute the wealth and stuff and I'm getting a house.

451
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, the house. It's like boor, I'm not

452
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna be like house. And with the house there's a

453
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: yard and then we're getting the house. Is this just

454
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: like insanely normal, just like brick to family and fills?

455
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: But then why not does it have a waterfall? I

456
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: actually was, I was thinking a little more um endless though.

457
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: I feel like if I was gonna do waterfall, I

458
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: would just do chlorine and be a little more time. Bahama,

459
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm shocked by the nose of this gorgeous it's um,

460
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: it's just your classic. It's a it's not it's a

461
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: deep yellow not as it's not pissed. I would say,

462
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: it's a little bit piss of the gods. Yeah, you

463
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: know this is Zeus. This is Zeus's piss to girls.

464
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: That's the golden rain that comes down onto what's her

465
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: name and makes her pregnant. And I wasn't expecting just

466
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: the crazy summer peach that happened. So this is a

467
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Greek wine. Okay, so I was right with the Zeus.

468
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: I love the Greeks. And the label is like these

469
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: two hands holding grapes. This is very Pulka classic natural

470
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: wine label where kind of looks like stationary. I want

471
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: the Okay, here's the thing. The natural pun pun is big.

472
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: They love puns. Child's drawing. The child's drawing is it's

473
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: very child drying, like or child's drawing board. Animal a

474
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: crazy thing, yeah, like a weird goat. But it's very

475
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: line drawing. I would say, like it's very like that

476
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: person in art school who's like there with their like

477
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: journal and they're like just always drawing, and there's like, yeah,

478
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: I just do torn journal pages of like weird goats

479
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: and like a little and then you find out their

480
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: parent is like loaded and they have like huge over

481
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: the ear headphones that they were everywhere. Okay, that was

482
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: me being so autistic in my little sketchbook in middle school,

483
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: and I would always draw this character called Whispy Woman.

484
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: She was Stephen. That was not the drawings. I'm time out,

485
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: you are a totally different girl. Stephen would draw a

486
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: full hen tie. Whispy Woman had massive toss. Always. The

487
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: point of Whispy Woman was that her hair was her dress,

488
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: which I thought was really interesting. I guess you were

489
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: with the hair. You were doing like crazy sloody, were

490
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: being you were gay, You're huge fact. Sorry, I'm trying

491
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: as I also would draw these little robot men that

492
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: were just made of like ten like that's a little

493
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: more indie. Sure, if you want to be this indie pen,

494
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: I think that you're different than the person we're talking about. Okay,

495
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: that's fair. If you're not feeling, if you're not latching

496
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: to the question, I can pose a different question. Was

497
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: the question It was not surprised you won the lottery.

498
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: You were an incredible person. You redistributed the wealth, but

499
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: you got one crazy thing for yourself. I would say

500
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: that I want like a thirty six million dollars penthouse

501
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. That's too big. I'm talking like jets.

502
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: You haven't redistributed. This ceiling is like fifty k. Oh,

503
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I feel like my saltwater pool is honestly still costing

504
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: one hundred k. But yeah, okay, you're right, I don't.

505
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm my experience with pool. Yeah, please read up on pool.

506
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: It either has to be saltwater pool or below that sucks. Yeah,

507
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I can ask you a different question now, it's fine. No,

508
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: I would like buy clothes. You're like, I'm already there

509
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: with the money, so it's kind of hard for Let

510
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: me ask you a follow up question. Fifty k. That's

511
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: like literally just like making less than the media salary

512
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: in America. Let's level with me here, level with me here,

513
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: try not. Have you seen the film Oceans eleven? Yes?

514
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Which of the highst team in Oceans eleven do you

515
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: want your wine to be? Oh? I mean Brad Pitt? Okay, okay, well,

516
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: which which is the twenty six story penthouse in Hong Kong.

517
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: I would honestly say this one is also this this

518
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: one is the same one, the same one that is

519
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: Saltwater Pool is also Brad Pitt. Okay, because it's always eating. Yeah,

520
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: it's intulgent, that's what you're saying. Well in such a

521
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: but it's like he's always like licking, let's taste three,

522
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: jumping into your saltwater Pool one. I'm almost I'm getting

523
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: peanut butter on the nose, if I may, you know what

524
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: what it is. It's like peanut butter, peach, whiskey pie. Shake, no,

525
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: on the nose, on the nose. But because I'll tell you,

526
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I was scared by the nose that this was going

527
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: to be just like a bowl of syrup. Yeah, and

528
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: then it's calmer. I mean, I do still feel like

529
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: it's getting dessert wine. I would not normally like this

530
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: is not from super sweet. It's I have to say,

531
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: it goes on a little quick. I'm not in love

532
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: with this wine. Sorry. Yeah. No, technically speaking, this wine

533
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: does not have residual sugar whatsoever. And what you're tasting

534
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: is actually the fruitiness. And often our palates can confuse

535
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: fruit for sweet. Is in fruit sweet? Yes, But and

536
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: then again I'm not gonna you know, as you said,

537
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: there are no to be questions, there are only stupid answers. Um.

538
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: So it's like you can have fruit is sweet, but

539
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: some thing can Like that's the crazy thing about grapes.

540
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: And I forget who wrote this article, but I remember

541
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: reading it, and grapes release a special chemical that mimic

542
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: other flavor things. Obviously I retained a lot of that article. Okay, um, okay,

543
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: So the last question is, um, what is it going

544
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: to be? Okay, if you could go swimming anywhere, anytime,

545
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: any place, like I need the picture, I need a

546
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: full sensory experience. Okay, there's so many thing like I'm thinking,

547
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: like there's that famous like pool at that hotel in

548
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Singapore that like overlooks the city or whatever. But cheesy

549
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: and Instagram. But are you asking us? Are you asking

550
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: us a body of water we've been to? Not just

551
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: this is fantasy, This is fantasy. I'm also thinking. I'm

552
00:33:54,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: also thinking, like right, stunning, Well, okay, that's what I'm

553
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: in the desert, you know what I mean? Next to

554
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: this insane like modernists like you know, house that's been

555
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: thrown in the middle of nowhere. I'm also thinking Hawaiian waterfall,

556
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm going I'm going to I'm going

557
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: to the Caribbean, but I'm also going sorry hometown, fucking

558
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: ice cold Atlantic on the cape and you get in

559
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: there and it's so cold, but it's so hot outside,

560
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: and then you get used to when people are like,

561
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: how can you do it? How can you do it?

562
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: And you say, you're a fucking pussy, get in here. Okay,

563
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: we're on the cape, and then it doesn't and then

564
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: it feels fine and you're just rocking in those waves,

565
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: sick back and forth. Hell yeah, So yeah, I'll stop

566
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: dreaming about infinity pools. I've never been to talk about

567
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: the oceans. I fucking no. You need to start writing lyrics, bro. Thanks.

568
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I have a huge journal. I would love to show

569
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: them sometimes tons of it, but I don't really know

570
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: what that means, but like I, I'd be thrilled to

571
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: share it with you. She has years like ninety eight

572
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: to twenty eleven, and then I so I'll tell her

573
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: to bring those next. Huh huh. That's my answer, Stephen.

574
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: What's your Singapore fantasy? What's your singing? I want to

575
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: be in a sling getting fucked in Singapore by the police. Yes, yes,

576
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: you're drinking the sweetest, most sulfurous okay. Um. Also, I'm

577
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: just gonna say yeah, I'm not gonna say anything. Actually,

578
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you develop your own opinions. So you're

579
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: pouring me this wine that's called and this is in

580
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the All sat All Sail Satiant. What do you mean

581
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: it's French. Yeah, it's um. It's imported by Camiri Vie.

582
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: I love her work. When I see this amazing importation

583
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: an Alsatian bottle, I feel like guy. Oh and I'm

584
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: not getting in the Alsatian I I'm getting. Okay, I

585
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: will say this, the bottle that you're pouring me is

586
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: something that I probably would just in my just kind

587
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: of natural wine pilled. I want to renegade punk rock winemaker.

588
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: I would instantly probably buy this new questions ask I

589
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: mean myself as well. It's called lou thirty eight, another

590
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: good GMC name. Okay, this wine, I'm getting like a

591
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: little bit of acetone on the nose, which I love.

592
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little bit of That's also where I

593
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: get I start banging my like pots and pans about

594
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: wine stuff. Is that you're trained in the wine world

595
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: to taste for flaws, and the acetone is technically a

596
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: flaw a little bit. So it's like I feel like

597
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: it's too right. I'd rather yeah like everything. And that's

598
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: that's where we go back to anti Corse roll. Okay, yeah,

599
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: bring us back. But it is like, you know, it's

600
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: just what do you like? Because like someone's making that

601
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: wine and someone's gonna like it. Like then I start

602
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: to get I also get a little bit of old desk.

603
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: When I say old desk, I mean a nice antique.

604
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that I brought cent or kind of no,

605
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: like nineteenth centch Oh, it's big, so you are not

606
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: big heavy. It's not heavy. It's someone who's writing a

607
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: letter of exactly. It's the varnish on the desk. Is

608
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: it one of those fold up Yes, I was getting there. Okay,

609
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: we're an American girl doll, it would be Samantha, yes,

610
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: oh wow. Okay, So this is full nail polish. Is

611
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: someone who just were nail polish and I took it

612
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: off this weekend experience, I'm getting absolute nail polish again,

613
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: and it's a trigger and I feel like if I

614
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: smelled this, which I am right now. Yeah, if I

615
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: were being the person I am at this moment. I

616
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna like the way I look. But let's see,

617
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: it's a shocker. Oh I want to taste Lily's Like

618
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: I haven't even give my this is shocking me. Yeah,

619
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: it is creamy. I get it. It's like it's um,

620
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: it's you know what it is. It's it's a little

621
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: more like the bolonaise isn't made yet, but we're midway through. Okay.

622
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: This is the sauce genius because sometimes when you chase

623
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: the sauce, you're like, there's something a little bit sharp

624
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: about it. That's that's like a little off. Yeah, that's

625
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: like and you're like, okay, I need to put in

626
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: the milk, and then we're stirring a little bit. This

627
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: is I think a good wine to drink while making

628
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: the heavy pasta. This is the wine that like in

629
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: the cookbook which actually, if you do order the Please

630
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Speaker 1: Wait to Be Tasted cookbook by Little Devs and is

631
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Speaker 1: that available on Amazon or Rubber Books our soul local bookstore,

632
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Speaker 1: I would strongly recommend placing an order with Spotty Dog Books,

633
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Speaker 1: which is our local bookstore, and Hudson, New York that

634
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: under they ship internationally. I am located in Hong Kong, Canada. Um,

635
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: this wine is oh my god, wait, okay, Lily, but

636
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: the LU thirty eight, So this like the very punk

637
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: wine that's kind of label like for sure. Wow. The

638
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean the nose is also again peach insanely peach. Yeah,

639
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: and then it's but it's less snappoly than the other one. Yeah.

640
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: And the first one is more like lemon Snapple and

641
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: this one is maybe peach snap when I used to

642
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: drink Snapple and I haven't had one in years. This

643
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: is so imagine coples out of the cooler right to me,

644
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: this is so kombucha forward that it's it's a little

645
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: tough for me. See that is as to say the

646
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: lou Like, I am more of a like when I'm

647
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: going to a store, I mean like can I get

648
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: like your funkiest, weirdest, barest artist. But this isn't because

649
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm not getting any Like it's not making my stomach,

650
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like a super funky wine

651
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: to me should like make me want to throw up.

652
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: It's so insane and I love that, but like it

653
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: should like be painful going down because it's so said

654
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I think this is something you bring out actually easy peasy,

655
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: it's towards the end end of the night. Um, this

656
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: is if I were I'm gonna be honest in this showing.

657
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I think that what is missing is like a beautiful, elegant,

658
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: austere white wine. I was about to say that, yes

659
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't, but I'm no, oh yeah, or like a

660
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: white burgundy. Like the truth is that I've okay, I'm

661
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: just gonna come out and say it. I have been

662
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: drinking Chardonnay's recently. Sharan is beautiful, grig. Yeah, I'm just

663
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna need to get this one. I think you should

664
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: retaste that one because it needed to come up to temperature.

665
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: And this is a note about temperature, which is why

666
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: drinking wine with people is really important, is because there's

667
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: never any right answers. And this one was as cold

668
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: as the others, and when it came out and it

669
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: had much less character. I think this is my favorite.

670
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: I think I think the punk like collage magazine one

671
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: is my favorite because it's sitting, it's and what we're

672
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: talking about. I said that because I feel like you

673
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: said that it was bad because it was so kitchen sink.

674
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of like, well, that was the fifty

675
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: great blend. It's also not bad because it's Kitchen Sinc.

676
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: But it um it started off. This is this is

677
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: the bet This is the betwine. Everyone, This is the

678
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: bet Wine. And this is exactly what I was talking

679
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: about with City, where if you open something up and

680
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: let it mellow out, you might get to know it better.

681
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692
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693
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: When does she live? Why does she live? How does

694
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: she live. Okay, what does she eat? So she let's

695
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: just do okay, So let's just start with the LU

696
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Let's line them up. So um luke thirty eight.

697
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: Luty again, this is the magic hat label. This is

698
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: it's vegan. Maybe. I think it's like a little bit.

699
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: It's it crazy to say buffalo colie flower. Oh it is.

700
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: It's it's doing like it actually is eating vegan in

701
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: that way. That's like no, the French say trush. It's

702
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: just like fried collief flower covered in so much buffalo mayo.

703
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that the LU thirty eight is like

704
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: one of those concerning TikTok communes where you're like, are

705
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: they getting their nutrients? Yeah? And then like when they're

706
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: having dinner with their parents that are wealthy, they get

707
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: the buffalo calliflowers okay? And if I may ask, if

708
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: you were to pair this was something featured in the

709
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Little Deb's cookbook now on sale, Baby, what would you

710
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: pair it with? Um? I think I would do it

711
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: with the No, I would do it probably with um.

712
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: The salty papas, which are like salshy papa's bravos, which

713
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: are like a fried potato hot dog pickled chili like

714
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: extract totally. I mean, because it is giving beer vibes

715
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: in this way, and i've weirdly Can I confess something

716
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: to you? Say it? I mean, I feel like I've

717
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: been in less of an afterble wine place and more

718
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: in a craft beer place lately. This is the rule.

719
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: As I said, I went to a natural wine bar

720
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: in yes yesterday where I saw an older couple in

721
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: a blazer in the rule of freeze. Shout out to

722
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: my boyfriend Andy. Um, he will stop by the gas

723
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: station and get what I call his man beers. And

724
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: are they tall? Matt labels as well. It depends on

725
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: his mood. He's a sagittarius, so he likes adventure. I

726
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: knew we were connecting. Yeah, okay, what about you literally

727
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: get around Um? So I am. I'm moving on disgusted.

728
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm actually completely disgusted by how weirdly erotic this has gotten. Um,

729
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm moving on to the Greek wine. Um. The nose again.

730
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: The nose is now giving me like full sandwich like

731
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm just like so green. Also, how does she live

732
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: with the Greek wine? Low? Bad to me? Oh? Major

733
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: major like? Um, the palettes like the wooden palettes just

734
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: pushed together. I love books stacked up, no book shelves,

735
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: books stacked up on the floor. And I'm and I

736
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: and I and I do think that she is a

737
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: little bit cottage core incredible. Do we want to move

738
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: on to? This is the kind of orange that like

739
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: Lily tried initially that has it's like really childish sparkling. Yeah,

740
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: it's like cran almost and brune. And this is the

741
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: one where I was like, this is Calva. I'm drinking cava.

742
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean this to me made me go full whale sound.

743
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm almost just like she she lives in Sorry, sorry,

744
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually blow your mind for a second. This

745
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: is a Portuguese guy who is five to seven who

746
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: is dating an American brunette who is five iron that

747
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: he met and she works in marketing whenever. They live

748
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and he's just like very like short sleeved,

749
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: You're almost there for me, but it's California. It's I

750
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: need to say, I need to say something completely different

751
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: to everyone here, which is that I think that this

752
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: is like, um, not a Grimes and Elon couple vibe,

753
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: but like one of them is tech like one of

754
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: them is the money, and one of them is the

755
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: like that I'm saying. I think Lauren is the money.

756
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: I think Lauren were like and and this is this

757
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: her like Portuguese short boyfriend. But that's why I'm saying,

758
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: and she likes him. What I originally said about this

759
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: wine that this is the crud to place we went

760
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: to in Venice. I think they own a restaurant with

761
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: a live DJ in. I don't think this wine has

762
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: the grit to own a restaurant. I agree, I agree.

763
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: I think that that's what I'm saying. I think he's

764
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: sitting at the apartment. I would say that his mom

765
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: on his massive Samsung every day. I would use at work.

766
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: These are more like, um, there's like a certain type

767
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: of person. I'm right the way I'm literally correct. Okay, no,

768
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I'm right with the standing my ground here,

769
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: which is that I personally believe about this wine, that

770
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: this is the type of it's I'm it's a compromise here.

771
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: It's the couple, I guess a couple, but it's not

772
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: a restaurant. It's like a fake influencer food project. And

773
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: they they cook one thing like a year. Oh, yeah,

774
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: and they're super stressed the whole time, and just like

775
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: they're both on their lots. I think he's a little

776
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: more like she's like and there's always picture she's in.

777
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: She's big hat and he's also big hat, but smaller,

778
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, I mean a mailing with our purveyors

779
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: right now. They're more influencer than I was. And he knows,

780
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: he knows how to get the tin fish and she's

781
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: so tin fish and she's that's what she's clog, she's clogs.

782
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: She keeps them fucking Is that he orders tin fish

783
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: from like someone he knows the like Morallo Sardinos, layer

784
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: of pathos to this, which I'm very interested by. And

785
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: I do see the sort of SAT's quality of this wine,

786
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: where it's trying to be someone that it is not,

787
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: and I get that and I appreciate, Well, I don't

788
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're trying to be someone that

789
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: they're not. I think that they're truly what they are.

790
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: I just don't think that they see what they are. Yeah,

791
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: well that I feel I feel like that is a

792
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: bit the same thing though, because they I think they're

793
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: pretending that they have this like incredibly interesting like food

794
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: pop up every two weeks. But it is as you said,

795
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: like they're doing this one like Cannellini being a year

796
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: And here's our bean. By the way, Sorry, these beans.

797
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: I have these beans. I have last night ready for this.

798
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: This is how they were painting the picture with the

799
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: father Brothy brothy beans in parentheses by Jen Stop by

800
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: by Jenet? Where was this? This is the natural wine

801
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Barn Lilyville rothy beans by Stine by Lily brothy beans

802
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: by Jen Wait not this brothy in Lilyville. Wait it's

803
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: like everything else by Jenn. Sorry. This is not Alison

804
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: Romans brothy beans. These are Gens beans. And guess who

805
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: was sitting next to me with her new husband. Well

806
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: not Roman because I'm not married some bitch, Jen. Oh no,

807
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: she's listening right now, John, I love you. Okays. The

808
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: this this French bitch, this tall French bitch that tasted

809
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: smelled like acetone. To me, this is old desk, so

810
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: I think that we let's give her another whiff. Okay,

811
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: the desk is moving into the twentieth century to me,

812
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: can I go? Yes, A lot of mental illness the

813
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: way I saw my mom in your that was that

814
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: was so apparent to be like a lot of mental illness.

815
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: Well that's I feel like maybe our mothers would connect

816
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: my mom's our moms would I think our moms would

817
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: like I roll back in that. He like, my mom

818
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: starts any story about anyone as this working class Chinese mother,

819
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: tons of schizophreny on the father's side. Um, micro chemist

820
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: went to Harvard, met her husband, sexless marriage, my mom.

821
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: My mom starts with her. She starts with a face

822
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: which this is bad for a podcast, but she just goes, II,

823
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: this is bad for podcast. I've got a face for radio.

824
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: But um and then she goes, I've been really worried

825
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: about her. Ummm. And I think it's someone who's you know,

826
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: and of course she's beautiful, and everyone's like, oh, can

827
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I say something? Yeah, Carrine, huge canvas photo print, Marilyn Monroe,

828
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: black and white. I think she's classier than that. I

829
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: kind of know. I actually agree that's so cheesy because

830
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: she she's Actually it's not Eiffel Tower, but it is

831
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe from my Kia. No, it's not Ikea. It's

832
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: it's more expensive, but it's in the way that rich

833
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: people can be so into Marilyn Monroe. Still yeah, because

834
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Speaker 1: she's been like I need one big pop art piece here.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that she lives in an Airbnb, which

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Speaker 1: would be the fake Eiffel Tower thing. No, it's but

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Speaker 1: it is. It is a little bit more if I may,

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Speaker 1: I don't think she listens to the pod terror read

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Speaker 1: who I adore, but who I quote Stephen, I don't

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Speaker 1: think she listens pod D honestly merch idea for you guys,

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Speaker 1: just a photo of Terry Read on a white shirt

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Speaker 1: with I don't think I have the capitalism disease. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: But I did skype with her ones and I saw

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Speaker 1: the inside of her apartment and there were like full

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Speaker 1: It was so cheesy girl like that, like like Bobby trendy,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, Marilyn, I was so non board because I

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Speaker 1: was just seeing the wine, so no on board is

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Speaker 1: very like five non blonds, so non word because I

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Speaker 1: was just smelling the wine and the nonbordinary and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm nonbordinary. Um, Lily thirty eight, I'm really sorry. That

851
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Speaker 1: was like an underhanded pitch and I had to deal

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Speaker 1: with it. I just had just sorted out. It landed

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Speaker 1: on my desk, and that's all I had to do.

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Speaker 1: Finds nonbordinary. I know, I'm always like I never get bored.

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Speaker 1: Literally Parker in front of the Roku channel where it's

856
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Speaker 1: just like the city, the city, and I could have

857
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Speaker 1: tons of ideas going on, start being like just a

858
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Speaker 1: guy like me in the big city. I'm like New

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Speaker 1: York lily Belle. Too far, ROCU City is Lily Belle. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I tasted the wine again, and I'm on board with

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Speaker 1: the Roman Row thing. It was so nail polish like

862
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Speaker 1: girl for me in this Tribeca loft that's empty and

863
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Speaker 1: she's just like eating nothing. And then when I tasted

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh right, this is weirdly like milky

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Speaker 1: in her ches. It's like she she has a pet bunny.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little torn out. I'm almost thinking maybe now

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Speaker 1: the punk is my favorite. Yeah I said that originally,

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were talking about the Alsatian. No,

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Speaker 1: the punk needed to come up to temperature. No, not

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Speaker 1: nap girl. Well, you're actually the frenchie. How would you

871
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Speaker 1: say this? Lab? Yes, labs? You know what this wine

872
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: is that like French eighties like punk song, like lap plastic.

873
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Speaker 1: I can't sing you're so right. It's also like that

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Speaker 1: type of straight couple where like they're not queer, but

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Speaker 1: they've decided that they like live in a different decade

876
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: and they both dress coordinated and like it's like a neckerchief.

877
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: It's like a little boat for saying that, because that

878
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: is such a weird thing where they're being like, okay,

879
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: so you're both like in a painting, like you're both

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00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: they've chosen to romance. The Rockabill couple, like it's like

881
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: the rock Rockabilly. It's like the guy this is the

882
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Speaker 1: guy Rockabilly and she has the Gingham dress and you're like,

883
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Speaker 1: I think, oh, this wine Rockabilly is a major burd

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Speaker 1: girl owning possibly a vintage store. Getting I think she's

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Speaker 1: in Gingham. I think he is in Hat. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. You don't think they're they're doing a

887
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Speaker 1: little bit of like, um, he is hat. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they own a vintage store, just in the

889
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Speaker 1: sense of like, uh, I think that they're just store.

890
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Speaker 1: They just store. They like all the vintage store proprietors

891
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: know them by name. Immediately they're like walking it's like

892
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Speaker 1: stuff writs for them. But at the end of the day,

893
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Speaker 1: maybe he's in post production, or or he's like or

894
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Speaker 1: he's like, um, he's not a costume designer, but he's

895
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: like a props guy, you know, like art department for sure,

896
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Speaker 1: art department. And and she's like, she like it's one

897
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Speaker 1: of the hottest jobs for a strange she like illustrates

898
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: children's books. I think that when men, a certain type

899
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Speaker 1: of man who works in production is one of the

900
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: hottest types of straight men because it means that they

901
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: have almost no pride and are okay with being told

902
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: what to do and how and can do a bunch

903
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: of skills and can solve problems, which is but but

904
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Speaker 1: it doesn't go to their head. Okay, who are you

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Speaker 1: in the book? I would say, I feel I'm gonna

906
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Speaker 1: just come out and say I do feel like I

907
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Speaker 1: am what I originally called as the Lauren of the

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Speaker 1: girlfriend of the Portuguese I am Louisa like from No,

909
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Speaker 1: but I'm I'm the girl of her, like he is

910
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Speaker 1: the You're the girl. I'm the girl of her. He

911
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Speaker 1: is the Portuguese book title. She's the girl of her,

912
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Speaker 1: like she's the five Portuguese guy, and like I'm dating

913
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Speaker 1: him and I'm like, yeah, I'm Portuguese man. So he

914
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Speaker 1: also lays it down and that's a part of their honey.

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Speaker 1: The pipe is in why you're like, but it's beyond

916
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Speaker 1: the pipe and that's why you stay. Why you're you're

917
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Speaker 1: paying hashtag beyond the pipe, you're paying twenty two hundred

918
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Speaker 1: he pays depends on its Yeah, this is so accurate.

919
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Speaker 1: I think you're the all safe. I think I'm this

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Speaker 1: one because it's like there's I feel like miss miss

921
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Speaker 1: Troubled Desk. Just feel like you. You have so many

922
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Speaker 1: layers and you know it's sharp on the front, you know,

923
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Speaker 1: I'll say it. I was intimidated by you when I

924
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: first met you, I was like, who's this cool? Not Simalia?

925
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Speaker 1: And then it's a creamy center. Wow, I definitely have

926
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: a creamy center. I think that like there's obviously the

927
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Speaker 1: difference between like how you want to be seen. Like

928
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Speaker 1: I think in my dream, I'm the peachy one that

929
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Speaker 1: no one liked, but I like um or I would

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Speaker 1: be like the punk rock but obviously I'm not. I'm

931
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Speaker 1: not um You're not not us, but you're giving me

932
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Speaker 1: a little more them on a field blend, And I

933
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: think that. That's something that I'm getting more comfortable with.

934
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Speaker 1: Is that, like, because I am a little crazy, you know, right? Yeah,

935
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Speaker 1: And this is I think the one that says troubled

936
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Speaker 1: desk girl. It's a little crazy. Yeah, Like I'm not

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: a bunny girl, but like my essence could I could

938
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Speaker 1: see you having a bunny. Absolutely, my essence could be

939
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: bunny girl. But you stopped yourself from Actually, when I

940
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: was a kid, my dad built a big cage for

941
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Speaker 1: bunnies because they kept getting scared to death. You had

942
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: bunnies as a child, So there we go here your bunny.

943
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: But bunny as a child in the outdoors is different

944
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: than a bunny in your house as an adult. I agree. Sure.

945
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: And also under the name of emotional support, like that

946
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Speaker 1: the a bunny girl posts on Instagram saying I would

947
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: not be me without my bunny, right, And you're not there,

948
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: thank God, and you are stronger, thank God. Yeah. Yeah,

949
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: um so, Lily, let's talk about you. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think I know my answer. I know I know you're

951
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: looking right at that magic I'm looking. I think that

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Speaker 1: I love. I think it's a little thirty eight. Yeah,

953
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: it's little thirty eight. It just feels good. Yeah, you know,

954
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Speaker 1: and it is that's the one way ticket to Lilyville

955
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: right there. Sorry, this tribute is this kind of rocker,

956
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: but it's like plus Vermont has this craft beer vibe.

957
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: It's on the border thirty eight. Um, okay, So I

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Speaker 1: would give the book I would give. I would give

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Speaker 1: tasting five wines, literally five out of five win models,

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Speaker 1: like five out of five wine puns. This is my

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00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: favorite thing ever. Um. All I want to do is

962
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: taste wines and talk about Yeah, you can have your

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Speaker 1: back literally anytime. I love to think my entire career

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Speaker 1: choices right now. Well, I feel like you really figuring

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Speaker 1: it out. What's a book club without a little wine?

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Speaker 1: You know? I mean? Amen? And on that Okays. The

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Speaker 1: book is called Please Wait to Be Tasted, written by

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Speaker 1: Carla Perez Guyardo and Hannah Black and myself, and it

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Speaker 1: is an incredible journey through food, the restaurant, how we

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Speaker 1: do things wine. I have little things on all the

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Speaker 1: little pages, being like this is a cool wine to

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Speaker 1: think about, this is a little thing to know. And

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Speaker 1: at the restaurant we do things called wine poems. There's

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Speaker 1: a whole little page about that and how to make

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Speaker 1: your own um. And there's also a thing that I

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