WEBVTT - Vampira

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<v Speaker 1>Ephemeral is a production of iHeart three D audio for

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<v Speaker 1>full exposure. Listen with that phones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that magical time of year, full of monsters, ghouls,

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<v Speaker 2>and all manner of horror movies. In the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 2>a new idea in horror hit the airwaves, repurposing vintage

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<v Speaker 2>scary films for a TV audience. The host of this

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<v Speaker 2>endeavor was also something the public had never seen before,

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<v Speaker 2>iconic for her piercing screams, morbid humor, and suggestive costume.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name was Myla Nermi, better known by the character

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<v Speaker 2>she created, Vampira, not to be confused with Elvira, but

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<v Speaker 2>more on that later. Today, producer Trevor Young takes us

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<v Speaker 2>through the haunting life and legacy of one of horror's

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<v Speaker 2>most influential character, Vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>What I need is a vampire of cocktails to settle

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<v Speaker 3>my nose. It'll not only settle them, it will petrifize

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<v Speaker 3>a vampire cockpail. You like it, it hates you.

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<v Speaker 1>She was sexy, but she was untouchable. She had a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor, a bizarre sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had several letters asking whether olives or carries should

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<v Speaker 3>be used in making my cocktail. Well, actually neither is necessary,

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<v Speaker 3>since they'd only disintegrate upon being put into the cocktail. However,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to use some gun, if you can

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<v Speaker 3>drop in an eyeball once you happen to have an

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<v Speaker 3>extra one around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the nineteen fifties, this was during the Eisenhower administration,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one had ever seen a person like my

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<v Speaker 1>And she was on television and here she was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how sad it was that her sister had died

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to bury her alive, and that she

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<v Speaker 1>had Yellow Cross insurance that you could buy because if

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<v Speaker 1>you were an unsuccessful suicide, you would have insurance to

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<v Speaker 1>try again. My name is Sandra Niemi, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>the author of the book Glamour Ghoul, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>biography of my aunt Mila Normie aka Vampire.

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<v Speaker 4>Sandra. So she never really knew her aunt Mala all

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<v Speaker 4>that well, but knew about her from TV. Decades later,

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<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen eighties, Sandra decided to track her aunt

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<v Speaker 4>Mila down, who by this point was in her mid

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<v Speaker 4>to late sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always obsessed with her, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was because I was an only child and I always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a family, a bigger family. And I had this

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<v Speaker 1>aunt Mila in Hollywood that I knew was beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought as a child, kind of a celebrity. And

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<v Speaker 1>I enlisted the help of the Red Cross to try

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<v Speaker 1>to find Myla, and they couldn't find her. Well. At

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<v Speaker 1>that time, she was going by an alias, and that

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<v Speaker 1>alias was Helen Heaven, so that's why they couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>Mila nor Me. I remained obsessed. I have to know her.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to her. And then one day

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<v Speaker 1>a state would have it. I got a Star magazine

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<v Speaker 1>and there was Mila nor Me suing Alvirah for ten

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, and I went, she's a live. Mila's alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I immediately sat down and wrote a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>her attorneys who were mentioned in this article, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>please for this letter, and they did, and Mila responded

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<v Speaker 1>right away, and we had a long letter writing campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't that long before I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to come to Los Angeles and off my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter and I went to Hollywood to see Mila. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent a week with Mila. I got to know her.

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<v Speaker 1>We continued writing and then at Christmas time of ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>she quit writing, and that hurt my feelings. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I had her her feelings or she was mad at

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<v Speaker 1>me for whatever reason. I didn't know. And I even

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<v Speaker 1>called the police to get a welfare check because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe she died, but they said no, she's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just left her alone. Then I found

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<v Speaker 1>out in the newspaper that she died in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight. January tenth went to Los Angeles and got

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<v Speaker 1>granted to go into her apartment and started picking up

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<v Speaker 1>all of her writings.

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<v Speaker 4>Inside Myla's apartment, Sandra found an astoundingly detailed record of

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<v Speaker 4>her aunt's life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was full of papers and magazines and folders, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, well, this is how I can know

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<v Speaker 1>who she really was. This is exciting to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend with me helping me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>told her anything that you find with Mila's handwriting, keep

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<v Speaker 1>it well, put it in plastic bags and pictures and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, photos and things like that. When we came

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<v Speaker 1>out of there, I had three black garbage bags full

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<v Speaker 1>of writing, and sometimes there was a cohesiveness to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There were pages and pages and pages on notebook paper

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<v Speaker 1>that she had written on both sides, and sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a little note, like a scrap of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>or written in the margin of a calendar. I found

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<v Speaker 1>a half page glued to the back of a picture

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<v Speaker 1>that was hanging on the wall. I found wadded up

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of notebook paper in pockets of old clothes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just gathered everything up. I also found a real

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<v Speaker 1>Turreal tape, and when we played it, she had recorded

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<v Speaker 1>it in nineteen sixty six. But anyway, I have two diaries,

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen forty forty one forty two diary and a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty six diary. And boy, am I glad I

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<v Speaker 1>got the nineteen fifty six diary because that was a

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<v Speaker 1>very busy year for Vampire.

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<v Speaker 4>And since then Sandra has spent years sifting through that ephemera,

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<v Speaker 4>dedicating herself to chronicling the story of Myela Nurmi aka Vampire.

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<v Speaker 1>She was born in Gloucester, Massachusetts, and then her father

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<v Speaker 1>got a job in Pittsburgh, Massachusetts, so they moved there.

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<v Speaker 1>And in nineteen twenty six, her father, who was an

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<v Speaker 1>editor of a Finnish newspaper in America, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>civil war going in Finland and he wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>right there to see what was going on so he

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<v Speaker 1>could report it. And he decided to take his wife's

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<v Speaker 1>inheritance and go to Finland for maybe a year, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>And he left his wife and his two small children,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came back a year later, and my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>had completely changed. She was no longer this submissive housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>She was defiant, and she had learned to alcohol. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the family moved to Ashbuela, Ohio, and they were there

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<v Speaker 1>for maybe ten years. Mila had friends, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>the winter of nineteen thirty four he was sent to Duluth,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in the heart of the depression, and

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<v Speaker 1>they almost starved to death when they lost his job.

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<v Speaker 1>He was only doing a few hours on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>a week, and it wasn't enough to sustain them. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even have electricity, They had very little food. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>an angel came through and said they wanted him back

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<v Speaker 1>in Ashabula, So back they went and thrived. Mila accompanied

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<v Speaker 1>her father on lecture tours. He was much in demand,

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<v Speaker 1>he said himself. He was the man of ten thousand speeches,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lectured against the evils of alcohol, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and he lectured for a president. He was paid to

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<v Speaker 1>stump for Herbert Hoover, and later on he became a

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<v Speaker 1>huge ponent of FDR. But Mala went with him and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes she spoke too, but she listened to all of

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<v Speaker 1>his sermonizing. She knew his fire and brimstone approach. Mala

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<v Speaker 1>told her father that she wanted to be an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>and my grandfather thought artists meant someone who painted or

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<v Speaker 1>drew pictures. He didn't know the meaning of what she meant.

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted to be an artiste, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 1>free and to be friends with people like her and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with domesticity at all, no way. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted freedom to express herself, to be created.

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<v Speaker 4>Eventually, the family settled in a story at Oregon, but

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<v Speaker 4>apparently Mala quickly got bored and yearned for a more

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<v Speaker 4>exciting life.

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<v Speaker 1>She was going to go to New York, and the

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<v Speaker 1>parents put the kibosh on that and only agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>allow her to go to Los Angeles, where her mother's

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<v Speaker 1>brother and wife lived. And that's how she got to Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where Mila started looking for work, first as

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<v Speaker 1>a radio moonologist. She was interested, very very much interested

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<v Speaker 1>in being the first female or some wells because she

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<v Speaker 1>was enamor with Orson when she heard him speak on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio.

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<v Speaker 5>Strange.

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<v Speaker 6>It now seems to sit in my peaceful study, Princeton

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<v Speaker 6>writing down.

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<v Speaker 3>This last chapter of the record. Begun at a deserted

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<v Speaker 3>farm and.

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<v Speaker 6>Grover's new Strange to watch children playing in the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>The sound of his voice and the words that he chose,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was her God. That was who she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But she didn't have much luck getting a

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<v Speaker 1>job in that area.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>She tried a few things. She worked in a department

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<v Speaker 1>store and was a model perhaps and print ads because

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<v Speaker 1>she had this beautiful face.

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<v Speaker 4>It was also around this time that Mala started developing

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<v Speaker 4>her unique fashion sense, and it was largely inspired by

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<v Speaker 4>a certain Disney movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is no Alder.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a magic wishing apple, wishing apple, one Mike and

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<v Speaker 3>all your dreams come true.

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<v Speaker 1>Real, yeah, girl. She went to see snow White and

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<v Speaker 1>she was watching it and there was snow White and

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<v Speaker 1>coming and happy and this good little girl and washing

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<v Speaker 1>the dishes of the dwarfs and doing their laundry and

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<v Speaker 1>singing while doing it, and oh my god, Mila was

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<v Speaker 1>sickened by that. But then when the Evil Queen came

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<v Speaker 1>on the stage, all powerful and sexy and beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>demanding and in control. That's when Mila's brain exploded, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when she said, that's who I want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be evil, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be everything. She is the evil Queen, and she never

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<v Speaker 1>forgot that. She adapted part of the evil Queen persona

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<v Speaker 1>into vampire.

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<v Speaker 4>Like many people starting off in Hollywood, Mila had a

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<v Speaker 4>number of tough breaks and terrible experiences. Early on.

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<v Speaker 1>She went to I can't remember the person's name, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were advertising for a radio monologist, exactly what Mila did,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she applied. Now, mind you, she's only nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old from Astoria, Ore again and goes into this

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<v Speaker 1>shabby little studio type thing and the guy is there

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<v Speaker 1>by himself, and he tricks her into signing a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of paper and he takes her in the bag to

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<v Speaker 1>take her picture, and then he asked her to become

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<v Speaker 1>nude from the waist up, and all she had to

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<v Speaker 1>cover herself was some see through scarves. And Mila was horrified.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew she was locked in and to that office,

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<v Speaker 1>to that back part of that office, she couldn't escape,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was upstairs. No one would hear her scream,

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<v Speaker 1>so she complied, and he took pictures of her with

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<v Speaker 1>these scarves. She couldn't wait to get dressed, and as

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<v Speaker 1>she flew out of the office after he unlocked it,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, the proofs will be ready on Wednesday or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and she just stormed out, running away from the man.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it was just a sham because the

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<v Speaker 1>proofs never showed up, and even when she went back

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<v Speaker 1>to the office, the guy was gone and locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>He was charlatan. And then she tried to I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember who mister Clark, I think his name was. She

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<v Speaker 1>went to interview for a job there, and he made

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<v Speaker 1>a pass at her. He started moving his hands up

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<v Speaker 1>her skirt and she wrestled him and ended up breaking

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<v Speaker 1>his glasses and ran out of his office. And then

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<v Speaker 1>she said to herself, Hollywood is just filthy. Those were

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<v Speaker 1>her words that she wrote.

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<v Speaker 4>But one day she met someone who had changed her

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<v Speaker 4>life forever.

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<v Speaker 1>She went with a friend of hers because it was

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<v Speaker 1>the friend's birthday, ended up at Musso and Franks. They

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<v Speaker 1>had grabbed a serviceman outside to be their escort into

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<v Speaker 1>the bar because Mila wasn't twenty one yet. But they

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<v Speaker 1>went in with the soldier and they sat down. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they got served, and then Mala heard this voice in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of her and she couldn't believe her ears

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<v Speaker 1>was Orson Wells in person, her God, and she couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help herself, and she ran over to his table and

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<v Speaker 1>started babbling whatever it is that she did. Then realized

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<v Speaker 1>that she had interrupted him in his dinner companions and

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<v Speaker 1>apologized and went back to her table, which was now gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Her friend and the soldier boy had decided to googigan out,

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<v Speaker 1>so now she was alone. So she just sat there

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what to do. And here comes Orson Wells over

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<v Speaker 1>to her cable by himself and invites her over to

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<v Speaker 1>his table. So she goes over there and it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to go, and he calls the cab and gives her

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<v Speaker 1>a kiss. She lived in a hotel then, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Commodore hotel. He got out of the cab and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I want to see where you live, and

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<v Speaker 1>he walked her to the door. He didn't kiss her again.

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<v Speaker 1>He left shortly thereafter. A bouquet of flowers arrived at

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<v Speaker 1>the desk they began a romance. At the time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was during the war, and Orson was always into magic,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was putting up a type of carnival off

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<v Speaker 1>LaBrea in Los Angeles, where there were all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>tints and games, and he had his celebrity friends come

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<v Speaker 1>and do tricks like sawing a woman in half and

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<v Speaker 1>eating snakes and all of this sort of carnival kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Well, Orson had quit sending flowers or coming

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<v Speaker 1>after Mila and had been quite a while, and Mila

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<v Speaker 1>was getting a little alarmed. What has happened? Has he

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<v Speaker 1>ditched me? Is he not interested in me anymore? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? She went to the little house on Hacienda

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<v Speaker 1>that she had been seeing Orson at, and a man

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<v Speaker 1>showed up in a bath robe and it wasn't Orson,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he didn't know him, mister Wells, And

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<v Speaker 1>so Mila left. She thought, well, maybe he's moved. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that man. Then she went to the carnival

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<v Speaker 1>to look for Orson. There were pictures of all these

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities that were going to be appearing, and she looked

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<v Speaker 1>up one of these pictures and it was the man

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<v Speaker 1>in the bath robe and his name was Joseph Cotton.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a famous actor in those days and also

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<v Speaker 1>a very close friend of Orson else. So then Mylea

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<v Speaker 1>put tuned two together. H these two men have rented

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<v Speaker 1>this house to entertain their girlfriends, whoever they may be,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm just one of his girlfriends. God only

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<v Speaker 1>knows how many more girlfriends he's gone. Then, while Myla

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<v Speaker 1>was stewing in her apartment and not working, she realized

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<v Speaker 1>that she was pregnant and it was Orson Wells's child.

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<v Speaker 1>And very shortly, like the same day or the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>she was listening to the radio and they announced that

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<v Speaker 1>Arson Wells had married Rita Haywarth that morning at city Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mala's world was plunged into complete blackness, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine.

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<v Speaker 4>The sun was put up for adoption, and up until

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<v Speaker 4>only very recently, no one knew who the secret child was.

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<v Speaker 4>But after she gave birth, Mala decided to shake off

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<v Speaker 4>her grief and focus on her career, and that's when

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<v Speaker 4>she got her first big break. After an initial string

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<v Speaker 4>of disasters in Los Angeles, Mala moved to New York

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<v Speaker 4>City and there she nailed a role in a stage

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<v Speaker 4>play called Catherine was great with May West.

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<v Speaker 1>She got a part as a handmaiden, and Catherine was great,

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<v Speaker 1>but she irritated May West because she overacted, and May said,

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<v Speaker 1>as an asside to the director, doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>so big, because Mala was supposed to scream and fall

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<v Speaker 1>to the floor and faint as she was informed her

0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>husband died and Mala went overboard, and May didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to be upstaged, and eventually May fired

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<v Speaker 1>Mila after several months on Broadway.

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<v Speaker 4>While she was in New York, Mila made another celebrity friend,

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<v Speaker 4>Marlon Brando.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet before this evening is over your mind and

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<v Speaker 1>give me the brush, you might forget your manners. You

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<v Speaker 1>might refuse to stay. He was in his first Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>plate and it was called I Remember Mama. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were both on Broadway at the same time. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other handmaidens that was in Catherine was Great

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<v Speaker 1>was dating Marlon Brando, and she was bitching and complaining

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<v Speaker 1>about what a cad he was. He was there one

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<v Speaker 1>time for her and then he was missing, and she

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<v Speaker 1>just couldn't take it anymore. So Mila listened and listened, thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, give me this guy's address. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go over here and take care of him. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>not going to treat you like that. So she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She went over there about two thirty three o'clock one morning,

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<v Speaker 1>knocked on the door, and this guy answered, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was Marlon, and she started reading him the Riot Act

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and he invited her into his apartment, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>leave until noon the next day. And her friend from

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<v Speaker 1>the play never spoke to her again, because obviously Myla

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed herself with Marlon Brando. They started well. She never

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<v Speaker 1>came right out and said it was a romance, but

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it was because she said I have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep my female side under control, because obviously she

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:18.719
<v Speaker 1>found him very attractive. And they dated. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>photo as an eight by ten and Marlon is in

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<v Speaker 1>costume for a movie. It looks like a revolutionary four

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<v Speaker 1>type uniform and Mala's dressed at the nines like she's

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<v Speaker 1>going out for dinner. I have it and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>very important to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Mala got cast in a horror slash burlesque Broadway

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 4>show called Spook Scandals.

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<v Speaker 1>And it only played for one night, but that one

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<v Speaker 1>night turned out to be pretty great for my love,

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<v Speaker 1>because she was inundated with offers from Hollywood by famous

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<v Speaker 1>directors and producers, and she had her pick of who

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<v Speaker 1>to choose to go to Hollywood and be interviewed by,

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<v Speaker 1>and she chose Howard Hawks. He was the man who

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<v Speaker 1>discovered Lauren Bacall, and he was very, very famous. Everybody

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>knew Howard Haws. He was a big deal. And she

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<v Speaker 1>went home. She had a contract with Howard Hawks, and

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<v Speaker 1>she waited for I don't know how long, maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple of days, and the phone never rang. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Mila was incensed, and she went back to Howard Cox

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<v Speaker 1>and sat in his office and took out the contract

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<v Speaker 1>from her purse and ripped it up into pieces and

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.919
<v Speaker 1>threw it on his desk and said to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote this down, please kindly dispose the piece in

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<v Speaker 1>your nearest wastebasket. And out the door she went, thus

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<v Speaker 1>killing any opportunities she would ever have to be an actress.

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<v Speaker 4>Since she was blacklisted from traditional acting roles, Mila decided

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 4>she would work on doing her own thing, something entirely

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<v Speaker 4>unique and fringe from Hollywood, and in October of nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifty three, she unveiled a new persona at the bow

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<v Speaker 4>Karribe Masquerade Ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently this val Cared was an annual event right before Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a costume ball and it was held at

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<v Speaker 1>the Moulin Rouge. So he told Mila about it, and

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>he said, you have to come and just put on

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<v Speaker 1>a costume. Income it's so much fun and they'll be prizes.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mila thought, wow, maybe I should do that because

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm wanting to get discovered. I want to be on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she knew the door to movies was shut, so

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<v Speaker 1>she decided to go as Charles Adams unnamed character at

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<v Speaker 1>the time from his cartoon strip The Adams Family.

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<v Speaker 5>So I went there and I practiced my mctory Marian

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 5>Kourtchy because I expected to win. But I had lavender makeup,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, partty with a little lavender looking as I

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 5>had risen from the grave turned a little blue, you know.

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Therefooted like that. The lady was flat chested.

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>She bought some rayon from a fabric store, and she

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<v Speaker 1>rented a wig from Max Factor and Indian Wig, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was a long black wig, and then she applied

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<v Speaker 1>her own makeup. She went barefoot and The dress was

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<v Speaker 1>low in the back, eye in the front. She did

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<v Speaker 1>not sins her waist, She just wore it. The dress

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<v Speaker 1>loose and raggedy. The sleeves were tattered and the hamline

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<v Speaker 1>was tattered. And she put on tomb like makeup. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>very very white, with a little bit of purple lavender.

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<v Speaker 1>They went to the ball and Mila won the costume prize,

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:57.680
<v Speaker 1>which was a transistor radio. But she had caught the

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<v Speaker 1>eye of Hunt Stromberg program manag ABC Channel two, Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>and he looked for her for five months, from October

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to March. He finally talked to this guy, the one

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>who had encouraged her the beginning to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl thrib and he says, oh, she's easy to find.

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<v Speaker 5>So they found me and they told me to come in,

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<v Speaker 5>and I came in. He said, come in costume. And

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<v Speaker 5>I came in during the Eyes of March wearing a

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<v Speaker 5>great Valenciaga cape coat and the winds winds of the

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<v Speaker 5>Eyes of March were flapping it and people were coming

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<v Speaker 5>out of a little bummelow saying, oh, there's Hunts vampire there.

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 5>I had no hair. You just didn't see ladies with

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<v Speaker 5>crew cuts in those days. But I had all sorts

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 5>of things women didn't see in those days, you know.

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.679
<v Speaker 1>And Mila was interviewed by hunt Stromberg. He told her

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>what he wanted. He wanted her to be the horror host.

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>And she said, well, who else are you going to have?

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>From Adam's family. It was a cartoon that was published

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 1>in the New Yorker in those days. And he said, oh, well,

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can't afford anybody else. We just want you.

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>And Mala said, well, I can't possibly do it then,

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>because you would be ripping off Charles Adams. This particular

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>character is his character. And he says, well, then I

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know what we're going to do. And she says, well,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>can I come up with something a little different? And

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 1>he says, I'll give you four days. So Mila went

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>home and she took her costume from October and turned

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<v Speaker 1>it backwards.

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<v Speaker 5>So then I saw a book by John Willie Bondage

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<v Speaker 5>and Discipline. I said, ah, that's it. I had been

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 5>a pinup model. I've been doing cheesecake right at that time.

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 5>So I took the cheesecake and the Bondage and Discipline,

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<v Speaker 5>and I sinched to waste.

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<v Speaker 1>Her waist she sensed to in those days, nineteen inches,

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<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Put in the fish net hose, I slipped the dress.

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<v Speaker 5>I changed Mortitio's statement. I gave her Hollywood makeup, and remembering.

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<v Speaker 1>Too that there was a.

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<v Speaker 5>Bit of Greta Garbo in here in, something a little Dostoevsky,

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 5>and something just a wee bit spooky like Norma Desmond.

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<v Speaker 5>Were just turned me on big and Suset Boulevard. I've

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 5>made up my mind we'll bury him in the garden.

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Any city laws against that, I wouldn't know. I don't

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>care anyway.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 5>I want the coffin to be white, and I wanted

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 5>specially lined with second. Now when you see it, it

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 5>looks like I'm imitating Norma Desmond, which I was, but

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know it, you know, a subliminal.

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 1>She wore bust pads because she wanted the bust in

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the hips to be remarkably larger than this teeny tiny ways.

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to look like she was not even human,

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>like she came in parts. Then she glued on some

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>false fingernails that were three inches long and painted the nails.

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>She made them out of margarine tubs, and she got

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>herself a black wig that she from a store downtown.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>She walked in to an interview with hunt Stromberg four

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<v Speaker 1>days later, dressed as what we know now as Vampira.

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt Stromberg goes forward. Of course, this was exactly who

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>he wanted, and a star was born.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 4>And so Milo was signed to bring her character to

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<v Speaker 4>live TV on The Vampire Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Me Reading that show.

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<v Speaker 1>It premiered on April thirty, nineteen fifty four, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the next night it was on at its regular time midnight.

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Made first nineteen fifty four. She didn't have the beginning

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>where she walked down the corridor with miasthma of dry eyes.

0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>She didn't have that yet. That came a few weeks Slater.

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>But she would just introduce herself. Hellow, I am vampire.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>And she had this tiny, tiny waist and this low

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>cut blouse and the tattered sleeves and hemline and like

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>she said, my tall tall shoes, black hair, bizarre makeup

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>with boomerang eyebrows that arch sway up, and an overly

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>pronounced spread lip where she didn't see it because it

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't colored television, but you could tell it was a

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>different color of lip. And started talking about death and

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>how beautiful death was, and diatines and electric chairs.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've often been asked why I don't like

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 3>My attic is electricity.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows electricity.

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 8>Is the chairs.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can imagine what the audience thought in this

0:29:54.640 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Eisenhower era, like what is this? Who is that woman

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that had never seen anything like her?

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 4>The idea was that Vampire would host a new horror

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 4>movie each night. She'd introduce the movie, come back for

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 4>ad breaks, and close it out when it was finished,

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.719
<v Speaker 4>all while making clever quote unquote jokes.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Our little fairy tale to night. It's called the thirteenth Guest.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 3>The thirteen makes it timely, topical and terrifying. It's about

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>a humorous.

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Fellow who dies telling a joke, something of a dead

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 5>pan comedian. Yes, put me.

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 3>Down in the room and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Come in. And right from the get go, she was

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>insanely popular. People were writing to the station wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>know more, more information, and within a couple of weeks

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>they had to bump up the time start from twelve

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to eleven so more people would be awake. And then

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Life Magazine called Life Magazine. If you made Life Magazine

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>in those days, you were a star. You had made it,

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>And Life Magazine sent a photographer here down to Los

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Angeles to film Myla, and that's when the hallway Candelabra

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>dry Ice entrance mark is beginning. They did that for

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Life Magazine. I think she had a four page spread.

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just one page, it was four pages. It

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.479
<v Speaker 1>might have even been five. He took pictures of her

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in the back of I can't remember what make car

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>it was, but it was a convertible and was an old,

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny Victorian age car, and Myla would sit in the

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>back with a parasol over her head to keep the

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.719
<v Speaker 1>sun out, but the parasol was all shredded up. And

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>then she would scream at green lights and want the

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>convertible to go through the red lights. So she was

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>photographed doing that, people staring at her, like in broad daylight,

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like who is that woman dressed like that screaming. She

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>was a hit. She was a huge hit. It was

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty four, somebody talking about death AND's beautiful suicides

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and eyeballs and frog brains and beteens and oh my word,

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>what else is she going to come up with?

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 4>Sandra says that Mila felt more comfortable as vampire than

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 4>she did as.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Herself, especially at the beginning. I think that was her

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>alter ego because sometimes she would just put on vampire makeup.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>She had short blonde hair, and she would just leave

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>her short blonde hair and put on her Mala clothes

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and go down to Googie's with a vampire face. I

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>think there's a quote in the book something about hiding

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>behind the makeup. She could be more aloof, she could

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>feel more powerful, she could be more distant if she

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>had her vampire face. Some vampire gave her permission to

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>be how she wanted to be. It was that little

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>bit of the evil queen persona. She liked it. Mala

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>claimed that she herself was very, very shy. She said

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that several times. I don't see that. I don't see

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Mala as being shy, but she claims that she was.

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she was when she was younger. I don't know.

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>But she enjoyed being vampira. She enjoyed every moment of it.

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>She loved her. She's I love vampire irishoes my child.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I brought her up and I fed her and I

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>took care of her. And now when Mila was older,

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>she would say, now it's time for her to take

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>care of me.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 4>As Vampire became more popular, Mila was invited to join

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 4>Bella Lagosi on the Red Skeleton Show.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I think there's somebody cold as it's my sister, the Vampire.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 4>The Vampire Show was eventually canceled in nineteen fifty five,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 4>but Mala briefly took the show over to KHJATV, where

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 4>she retained rights to the Vampire character. Meanwhile, Mala started

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 4>hanging out among the Hollywood elite.

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Schwabs was the celebrity hangout drugstore. Everybody went to Schwabs.

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>That's where they got their medicine, their pills and their

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>narcotics and everything else that they needed to function and

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>is oftentimes standing lonely, and so Mila hung out there too.

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>But then a new coffee shop was built next door.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they shared a common wall Schwabs and Googies.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Googie's was a coffee shop. You walked in and to

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the left there was a horseshoe type counter, probably with

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>a Fike case in the middle. So the people like

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Mila started hanging out in Googies. It was the place

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to be in Hollywood if you were just starting out

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>in the movies. If you hope to be an actor

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>or an actress, if you were a rebel, if you

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 1>were a free spirit, if you were young, you went

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to Googie's. The old school stayed at Schwabz, and Mila

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>often said that there almost was a battle between the

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Schwabieros and the googie Items, and every once in a

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>while they'd back and forth. Maryland and Rowe would come

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>from Schwabz and come over and hang out at Googie's

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>once in a while, and so would Shaja Kabor, and

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a few of the others would drop in to say hi.

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But mostly it was the young rebel type people.

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 4>One of those rebels was perhaps the most famous rebel

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 4>of all time, James Dean.

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>You're tearing me abar what you say? One thing, he

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>said another and everybody changes back again. She didn't know

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>who he was. So Mala's sitting there with another guy,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and a motorcycle drives up, and that was James Dean,

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and into goog Ese he comes, and she said, she

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>jumped up out of her boot and banged her crazy bones.

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.720
<v Speaker 1>And the guy with Jack and her said he thought

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Mala had a stroke because she was just mess prized,

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>just staring with a peculiar look on her face that

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't change, and he said, what what myla and Malasen?

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Is that guy right there, right there, right there that

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 1>came in the door, who is that? I must meet him?

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And the guy turned around and looked. He said, oh,

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that's James Deen. I was just in a movie with him.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I want to meet him. I've got to meet him

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 1>right now. They were introduced over by the cigarette machine. Anyway,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that very same day he asked her to go on

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>his motorcycle up to his apartment. They became thick and

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>fast friends after that very platonic relationship because I think

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>from the get go this is nothing, Mila wrote. Jimmy

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>became the son she had to give up for adoption,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and Mila became Jimmy's surrogate mother. She was always giving

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>him advice because she was eight years older than he

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of years, but she was more mature

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 1>and wise, and she was always giving it, don't do that,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>don't do that, do it this way, do it, you know,

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and usually he just ignored her, but he listened and

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>they were good friends. And then here's the bizarre part.

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy was an unknown when they met. He had just

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>completed East of Eden, which was his very first movie.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>He only ate three. In East of Eden, his character

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>name was Cal spelled with the C, and Mila had

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 1>given her adopted son a name so she could talk

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>to him even though he wasn't there, and she named

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>him Cal with the key. So I wonder what Mala

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>thought when she went, Oh, he's Cal Prass and I

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>have a col. So this is the Great Universe telling

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>me you're not alone. Your surrogate son is here. That's

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts.

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Mala and James Dean developed a passionate friendship lasted for years,

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 4>but it was also a friendship that would end in

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 4>disaster for both of them. On September thirtieth, nineteen fifty five,

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 4>James Dean died in a tragic car accident, and it

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 4>blew apart Mila's world.

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Mila ever loved anyone in this world

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>as much as she loved James Dean. She never got

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>over his death ever. She loved him like a mother would.

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>She couldn't believe that twenty four years in his life

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was snuffed out. She had to leave town because there

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>were too many memories of Jimmy here. She was going

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to go to New York. Marlon heard she was going

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>to go to New York, and he offered to give

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>her some money to get to New York, and she

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't take it. She had a couple hundred bucks, and

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>so off she went to New York and about herself

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 1>an apartment. And as soon as she got back to

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, here was Whisper magazine on the newsstand. And

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Whisper Magazine was the lesser cousin of Confidential magazine. It

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 1>was the gossip magazine of all the stars. And on

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the cover was a picture of Vampire and Jamesteen, and

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the headlines screamed something about that Vampire had caused the

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>death of James Den because she put a curse on him,

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and Mala contemplated suicide. That was it. That was the

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>straw that broke the camel's back, the person that she

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>loved more than anything in the world, she was accused

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>of killing him.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 4>With her show canceled and her best friend killed, Mala

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.720
<v Speaker 4>fell out of work in Hollywood. However, in nineteen fifty six,

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 4>she got an offer from director Ed Wood to play

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 4>a part in one of his movies.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 6>Can Your Heartstand The Shocking Facts about Grave Robbers from

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 6>Out a Space.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>She didn't leave a lot of information behind about Edward movie,

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>but I know that she had met Edwood at a

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>birthday party for Bela Lagosi's son. He had said something

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to her, well, you're going to have to be in

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>one of my movies sometimes, and Mila said to herself,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>not a check, are you kidding me? She thought he

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>was pathetic. One way to kill your career is star

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>with ned Wood movie. So then he sent one of

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>his people over to Mala's apartment to ask her to

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>be in his movie. Mila had lost her job as

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a vampire due to creative differences. Let's say Jimmy was

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 1>dead and she said, na I don't think so, and

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.919
<v Speaker 1>he says two hundred dollars, And boy did that look

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>good for my law because she was almost like a

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>cat food, like she said, and she had all these

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>cats to be so well, maybe just leave the script here,

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know.

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 4>At first, Mila decided to leave Edwarod hanging and instead

0:42:26.000 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 4>took a few other gigs.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 1>A few months later, Liberaci came calling.

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 7>The Las Vegas Hilton takes great pleasure in presenting the

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 7>Liberacci Show and starring.

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Liberaci because Bella Lagosi was supposed to be co starring

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>with Liberacci in Las Vegas, but Bella became very very

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:53.359
<v Speaker 1>ill and couldn't d opt out, so he suggested my law.

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>So Liberacci took him out upon it, and he asked

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Mila to be his co star in Las Vegas for

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, and she jumped at the chance because Liberacci

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was the highest paid celebrity at the time. That's where

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>she went, and that's where she met Elvis. Mila would

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>keep running into these people. I'll tell you. Elvis was

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 1>starring at exactly the same type across the street at

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the Old Frontier, and Mila was across the street at

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the Riviera. So they formed a romance.

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 4>But when she got home, Mala found waiting at her

0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 4>doorstep the script for Edward's new movie, then called Grave

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 4>Robbers from outer Space.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 6>Reading is my friend. We are all interested in the future,

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 6>for that is where you and I are going to

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 6>spend the rest of our lives. And remember, my friend,

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 6>future events such as these will affect.

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You in the future. Mila never touched it. It just

0:43:55.840 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>sat there, and then finally Edward's friend came back and said,

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>we're going to start filming here in November. You know,

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>are you on? And she says, well, I've looked at

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the script now, and the script is so inane. I

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>can't say any of it. I can't bring myself to

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 1>say a word. It's so stupid. And this guy apparently said, well,

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 1>we don't care. We only want your name anyway, and

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>so that's why she didn't speak the word during the

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>entire movie.

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Vampire's role in the eventually titled Plan nine from Outer

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 4>Space was entirely silent, but her presence was a huge

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:44.240
<v Speaker 4>part of the film.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 8>I was initially offered some lines, but the fact is

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 8>that the character, although I was built as vampire, the

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 8>character wasn't Vampire as I had conceived her. Empire as

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 8>I had conceived her was giddy, outrageous, and this was

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 8>a different kind of a She was in a trance,

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 8>and I just thought it would better if she was

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 8>in a trance, and I asked her please do it mutely.

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Still, Mila was embarrassed to have done it.

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>She didn't think anyone would see it. She was hoping

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that nobody would see it or a recognize her or

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 1>think about it. And I don't think she saw the

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>movie in its entirety until like nineteen eighty four, but

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>she was shocked surprised that it had become a cult favorite.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 1>And it was also voted the worst movie of all time.

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And I used to like to think about Citizen Kane

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.959
<v Speaker 1>orson Well's the best movie of all time, Planned nine

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the worst movie of all time, and they had a baby.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 4>For better or worse. Plan nine is considered one of

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Vampire's most famous and iconic roles. When the movie had

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.319
<v Speaker 4>a cult resurgence in the nineteen eighties, Vampira also had

0:45:56.320 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 4>a new boost in popularity. Then Tim Burton made a

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety four biopic called ed Wood, where actor Lisa

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 4>Marie portrayed Vampire in the film, pardon me, miss Vampire.

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes you don't know me, but I'm Edwood.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm a film producer and I'm currently in production on

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 7>a science fiction piece with Bella Legosi and Swedish wrestler

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 7>Tord Johnson.

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand. Do you want my autograph?

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I think my film is perfect for you.

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 2>You want me to show it on my TV program? Well,

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I have nothing to do with that. You should call

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the station Managret Channel seven.

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 7>No no, no, no, no no. I don't want you

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 7>to show the movie. I want you to be in it.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 4>Look I'm with some friends and we're about to eat.

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 7>Please it would just take one second. Come on over

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 7>a meet the backers. There is a really nice dentist

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 7>from Oxnark.

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Look, buddy, I've got real offers from real studios. I

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 2>don't need to blow some dentists for a part.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Forget it.

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.799
<v Speaker 1>She went out to lunch with Lisa Marie and she

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:55.879
<v Speaker 1>liked her because she was fellow Sagittarian. They both had,

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, November December birthdays. The one thing she didn't

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 1>like that Lisa Marie did is she says, when I

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:06.400
<v Speaker 1>posed as Vampira, I crooked my elbows and put my

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>hands on my abdomen so you could see my tiny waists.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>That was very, very important to the character. And Lisa

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Marie would put her hands on her hips. That is

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 1>not the way it's done. And I told her before

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>she did it how to pose herself. Mala was very

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.879
<v Speaker 1>particular about her character and that's one thing she did

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>not like. I didn't think it was that true to Vampira.

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I thought it showed Mala as Mala. She had long

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 1>blonde hair. Mala had short blonde hair always and sort

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of a gloomy guss. Mila really was a funny person.

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>She cracked jokes. She his very personable. In the movie,

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>she was just sort of angry. That's how I looked

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>at it, So I didn't think it was accurate.

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Mala didn't do much acting or make too many vampire

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 4>appearances after Plan nine. She instead ran an antique store

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 4>called Vampire's Attic, on top of a few other odd jobs.

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 4>But when she got a second wind of fame from

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 4>the ed Wood hype in the eighties and nineties, she

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:15.239
<v Speaker 4>reveled in the spotlight.

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it did have an effect on her. I

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>think she loved it because then on top of being

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in demand, she was able to sell her artwork on

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>eBay and support herself. That made her very excited, and

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>so she did a lot of drawings and paintings, and

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she ever did any pros. She did

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>some sketching that were very good. She did a pencil

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>sketching of Arland Brando. She did Jimmy very well, and

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>then paintings. I have one of her paintings. A fan

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>of hers sent it to me and I'd treasure it.

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 1>And she was able to sell photographs, and she went

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to conventions, horror conventions, and she was able to sell

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:10.919
<v Speaker 1>her photos for twenty dollars a piece autographs, so that

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>put money in her coffers and she desperately needed it.

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 8>Fifteen silent minutes, which has given me an entire new career.

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 8>Thank you, mister Wood.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You're listening.

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 4>With such renewed interest in Vampira. KHJTV decided they wanted

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 4>to resurrect the Vampire show, so in nineteen eighty one,

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 4>they asked Mila to return to TV, but it didn't

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:35.760
<v Speaker 4>quite go as planned.

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>They had done a lot of talking to Mila. They

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to revive the Vampire's show, and Mala finally said, okay,

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to appear on camera. I'm too old.

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>And they finally talked her into making appearances as Vampire's mother,

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 1>and she said, well, vampire doesn't have a mother. She

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>just evolved. And eventually she says, okay, I'll appear on

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:04.800
<v Speaker 1>camera briefly once in a while and mostly in voice only.

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>But you will hire a vampire of my choice, and

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>they agreed to it, and they had a contest to

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>select a vampire. Mila wasn't too keen on that because

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 1>she wanted Lola Falana to be vampire, which wasn't going

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to happen because Lola Falana was a big deal in

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas at the time. They requested if she had

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 1>anything from the original show, and she said, yeah, she

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>had some scripts and she had pictures of the set.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>She would bring those over to Cage Jay so that

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>they could peruse them so they would know how to

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>set up this new show and how to make the

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>set look like her set original set that was such

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a success for poison bar or marble coffee table, rolled

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the spider, the death's head pouch, the color of the

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>sofa red. And she didn't hear from them anymore, and

0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>she tried to contact them and tried to contact them nothing.

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>So she finally went to the studio and says, hey,

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 1>but gifts, well, such and so's on vacation and such

0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and so's sick and blah blah blah. And then she

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>finally what she found out was if you come back here,

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 1>we've selected a Vampiro and we'd like for you to

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:28.359
<v Speaker 1>meet her. Mala thought, now, wait a minute, you told

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 1>me I was going to be able to pick the

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 1>new vampire. But she thought, well, the least I can

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:36.879
<v Speaker 1>do is go and take a look at her. So

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:40.799
<v Speaker 1>she went to back to the station and Cassandra Peterson

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>had not arrived yet, and she eventually showed up late,

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and she was wearing a red wig and some kind

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>of a full black skirt, and Mala thought, oh brother,

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>what is this. And one of the bosses of Katee

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Say said to her, this is the new Vampira, and

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:04.360
<v Speaker 1>we gave her the rights. It's between you two girls.

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 1>You fight it out. And Mila lost her stuff right

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 1>in and air. You did what you gave her, the rights,

0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 1>My rights, she said, some exploitive deleted Let's just say

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>out the door she went, and that was the end

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of that. They started production the first day, calling it

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the Vampire Show, and Mila had a CS and de

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>SIS letter sent to them, you stop right now or

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sue your butt saw and they changed

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the name to Alvira, Mistress of the Dark. But she

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>was a ripoff, Mila. Milah said, the only thing that

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>was different between them was the big boobs and the

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>top nod on her head. Other than that, they were

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the same.

0:52:56.400 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Elvirus first show called el Virus Movie macob ran from

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty six.

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Hello Darling, Yes, sire is Lilo may that gell with

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a shape that drives me el viras Mistress of the Dark.

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.720
<v Speaker 4>It was a huge success, and the entire time Mila

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 4>was attempting to sue Elvira khjatv for taking the rights

0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 4>to her character. She never won that lawsuit.

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 1>It impacted her the rest of her life. She says,

0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>she's going to the bank with my money and she's

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>buying fancy, million dollar homes. I don't even have electricity.

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't afford to feed my dog. And you can't

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:43.439
<v Speaker 1>blame her. You can't blame Mila for feeling that way.

0:53:44.080 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I would too. That was supposed to be her show.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>She was supposed to be making the money. There was

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.880
<v Speaker 1>no al Vira at the beginning. There was only Vampira.

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm bitter about it too.

0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Still, Mala had acquired enough fame from the nineteen ninety

0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 4>four Edward biopic that she was doing pretty well. She

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 4>started to appear in a number of documentaries about wood.

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 5>And this man said that he yearned, he had planned

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 5>to have a hope to have vampire in his production.

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 5>I thought he was to grab a hold of my

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 5>heels and pull me back down into the you know,

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Nicholson dimes Meyer from which I had clawed my way up, and.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I was insensed.

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought I wouldn't work for that idiot. How dare

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>he to aspire to me?

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 4>And she was successfully selling her art and memorabilia to

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 4>fans across the world.

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Things went very well until I think around the turn

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 1>of the century she got evicted from her house. She

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>lived in a converted garage. She eventually, in two thousand

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and five moved right off Sunset Boulevard and she was

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:51.839
<v Speaker 1>much happier there, and that's where she passed away, off

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Serrano of Sunset in Los Angeles.

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Mila Ermie passed away of natural causes on January tenth,

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 4>two eight, at the age of eighty five. This is

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 4>when her niece Sandra collected her writings and started to

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 4>catalog Mala's life. I asked Sandra what she admired most

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 4>about her aunt.

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 1>The fact that she never sold out. That has impressed

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 1>people a lot. Here she had this character that she

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:27.840
<v Speaker 1>created and she was offered lots of money to sell

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:34.359
<v Speaker 1>her rights. KBC wanted to syndicate the show. Mala said, no, no, no,

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:39.439
<v Speaker 1>I would rather be poverty stricken than lose control of

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 1>my character Vampira and her honesty. Mila was brutally honest

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, never sold out, never gave up.

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 1>She lived for over sixty years, most of those years

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 1>as a disabled woman and a single woman, and she

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 1>served Hollywood, which is a cutthroat town. Let me tell you,

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I've learned that those things really impressed me about my love.

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Finally, Sandra set out to find her long lost cousin

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 4>the child of vampire and Orson Wells, and eventually she did.

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 4>In twenty twenty one. He was identified a seventy six

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 4>year old David Putter.

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Through DNA ancestry dot com and they matched my daughter

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and David as first cousin once removed or something. So

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>he called her on the phone and I had been

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>at the grocery store and I walked in and my

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>daughter had this smug look on her face and she says,

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I know who mylassen is. I know his name, I

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:56.720
<v Speaker 1>know where he lives, and I have his phone number.

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, come on, get out of here. You know

0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not even funny. She said, no, I'm serious. I

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>know his name. And I looked at her and I said,

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>give it to me now. So she did, and I

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>was on the phone within one minute. I mean I

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 1>was calling, that's how anxious I was. And I got

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 1>him on the first call. He asked me, you know

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>who my mother is? And I said, oh my god.

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I had not sold my book yet, it was

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>not quite finished. I had another chapter and a half,

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe the finish, and then I was going to be done.

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And I said, you're talking to the only person in

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the world that can tell you everything you'd ever want

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to know about your mother. I'm writing a book about

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:55.280
<v Speaker 1>her life. Really, I said, yes, your mother is Mila Normie,

0:57:55.400 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>aka Vampire. And he was silent, and he says, oh

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>my god, I've waited seventy five years to know who

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 1>my mother was and I find out she's a vampire.

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Just cracked up. I was so happy. I have not

0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 1>met him in person yet, but he's sending for my

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>daughter and I to come visit him in Vermont from Oregon,

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and he apparently has his mother's eyes, and so I'm

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>very anxious to meet David in person. He'll be the

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 1>closest thing I'll ever have to a brother. David's adopted

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 1>mother died when he was only three, so he's never

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>known a mother. And I've sent him a vampire a

0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:47.240
<v Speaker 1>statue which he proudly displays in his home. And he

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>feels his mother around him. Now he knows who she is.

0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>He talks to her and calls her mom. It just

0:58:56.440 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 1>touches my heart. He thinks that Mila's there around That

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>makes my heart happy. Who can come.

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 5>In here is to go home.

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I can have a.

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Nice little.

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Step on the cat's tale.

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't being a cat, but we don't have a

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 3>cat a gy tale.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode of Ephemeral was written and produced by Trevor Young,

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<v Speaker 2>with producers Max and Alex Williams. Sandra Nimi is author

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<v Speaker 2>of Glamour Cool, The Passions and Pain of the Real

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<v Speaker 2>Vampire Myla Nurmi. Big thanks to Farrell House Publishing for

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<v Speaker 2>coordinating the interview. And we want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a vampire fan? Who are your favorite characters

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<v Speaker 2>from the horror Universe. Let us know on social media.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy Halloween,