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Speaker 2: It's that magical time of year, full of monsters, ghouls,

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Speaker 2: and all manner of horror movies. In the nineteen fifties,

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Speaker 2: a new idea in horror hit the airwaves, repurposing vintage

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Speaker 2: scary films for a TV audience. The host of this

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Speaker 2: endeavor was also something the public had never seen before,

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Speaker 2: iconic for her piercing screams, morbid humor, and suggestive costume.

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Speaker 2: Her name was Myla Nermi, better known by the character

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Speaker 2: she created, Vampira, not to be confused with Elvira, but

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Speaker 2: more on that later. Today, producer Trevor Young takes us

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Speaker 2: through the haunting life and legacy of one of horror's

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Speaker 2: most influential character, Vampire.

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Speaker 3: What I need is a vampire of cocktails to settle

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Speaker 3: my nose. It'll not only settle them, it will petrifize

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Speaker 3: a vampire cockpail. You like it, it hates you.

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Speaker 1: She was sexy, but she was untouchable. She had a

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Speaker 1: sense of humor, a bizarre sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: I've had several letters asking whether olives or carries should

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Speaker 3: be used in making my cocktail. Well, actually neither is necessary,

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Speaker 3: since they'd only disintegrate upon being put into the cocktail. However,

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Speaker 3: if you want to use some gun, if you can

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Speaker 3: drop in an eyeball once you happen to have an

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Speaker 1: This was the nineteen fifties, this was during the Eisenhower administration,

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Speaker 1: and no one had ever seen a person like my

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Speaker 1: And she was on television and here she was talking

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Speaker 1: had Yellow Cross insurance that you could buy because if

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Speaker 1: you were an unsuccessful suicide, you would have insurance to

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Speaker 1: try again. My name is Sandra Niemi, and I am

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Speaker 1: the author of the book Glamour Ghoul, which is a

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Speaker 1: biography of my aunt Mila Normie aka Vampire.

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Speaker 4: Sandra. So she never really knew her aunt Mala all

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Speaker 4: that well, but knew about her from TV. Decades later,

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen eighties, Sandra decided to track her aunt

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Speaker 1: I was always obsessed with her, and I think that

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Speaker 1: I enlisted the help of the Red Cross to try

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Speaker 1: alias was Helen Heaven, so that's why they couldn't find

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Speaker 1: Mila nor Me. I remained obsessed. I have to know her.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to her. And then one day

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Speaker 1: and there was Mila nor Me suing Alvirah for ten

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Speaker 1: And I immediately sat down and wrote a letter to

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Speaker 1: her attorneys who were mentioned in this article, and I said,

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Speaker 1: please for this letter, and they did, and Mila responded

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Speaker 1: We continued writing and then at Christmas time of ninety two,

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Speaker 4: Inside Myla's apartment, Sandra found an astoundingly detailed record of

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Speaker 1: It was full of papers and magazines and folders, and

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Speaker 1: it in nineteen sixty six. But anyway, I have two diaries,

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six diary. And boy, am I glad I

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Speaker 1: got the nineteen fifty six diary because that was a

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Speaker 4: And since then Sandra has spent years sifting through that ephemera,

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Speaker 4: dedicating herself to chronicling the story of Myela Nurmi aka Vampire.

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Speaker 1: She was born in Gloucester, Massachusetts, and then her father

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Speaker 1: And in nineteen twenty six, her father, who was an

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Speaker 1: editor of a Finnish newspaper in America, there was a

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Speaker 1: had completely changed. She was no longer this submissive housewife.

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Speaker 1: She was defiant, and she had learned to alcohol. Then

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Speaker 1: the family moved to Ashbuela, Ohio, and they were there

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Speaker 1: He was only doing a few hours on the radio

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Speaker 1: he said himself. He was the man of ten thousand speeches,

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Speaker 4: Eventually, the family settled in a story at Oregon, but

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Speaker 4: apparently Mala quickly got bored and yearned for a more

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Speaker 1: She was going to go to New York, and the

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Speaker 1: and that's where Mila started looking for work, first as

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Speaker 3: This last chapter of the record. Begun at a deserted

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Speaker 6: Grover's new Strange to watch children playing in the streets.

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Speaker 1: The sound of his voice and the words that he chose,

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Speaker 1: She tried a few things. She worked in a department

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Speaker 4: It was also around this time that Mala started developing

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Speaker 1: This is no Alder.

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Speaker 3: It's a magic wishing apple, wishing apple, one Mike and

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Speaker 1: Real, yeah, girl. She went to see snow White and

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Speaker 1: She went to I can't remember the person's name, but

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Speaker 4: But one day she met someone who had changed her

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Speaker 1: She went with a friend of hers because it was

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Speaker 1: the next night it was on at its regular time midnight.

434
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: Made first nineteen fifty four. She didn't have the beginning

435
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: where she walked down the corridor with miasthma of dry eyes.

436
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: She didn't have that yet. That came a few weeks Slater.

437
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: But she would just introduce herself. Hellow, I am vampire.

438
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: And she had this tiny, tiny waist and this low

439
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: cut blouse and the tattered sleeves and hemline and like

440
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: she said, my tall tall shoes, black hair, bizarre makeup

441
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: with boomerang eyebrows that arch sway up, and an overly

442
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: pronounced spread lip where she didn't see it because it

443
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: wasn't colored television, but you could tell it was a

444
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: different color of lip. And started talking about death and

445
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: how beautiful death was, and diatines and electric chairs.

446
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: You know, I've often been asked why I don't like

447
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: My attic is electricity.

448
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: Everybody knows electricity.

449
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 8: Is the chairs.

450
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: And you can imagine what the audience thought in this

451
00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: Eisenhower era, like what is this? Who is that woman

452
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: that had never seen anything like her?

453
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: The idea was that Vampire would host a new horror

454
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: movie each night. She'd introduce the movie, come back for

455
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: ad breaks, and close it out when it was finished,

456
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 4: all while making clever quote unquote jokes.

457
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: Our little fairy tale to night. It's called the thirteenth Guest.

458
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: The thirteen makes it timely, topical and terrifying. It's about

459
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: a humorous.

460
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 5: Fellow who dies telling a joke, something of a dead

461
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 5: pan comedian. Yes, put me.

462
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: Down in the room and we.

463
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: Come in. And right from the get go, she was

464
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: insanely popular. People were writing to the station wanting to

465
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: know more, more information, and within a couple of weeks

466
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: they had to bump up the time start from twelve

467
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: to eleven so more people would be awake. And then

468
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: Life Magazine called Life Magazine. If you made Life Magazine

469
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: in those days, you were a star. You had made it,

470
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: And Life Magazine sent a photographer here down to Los

471
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Angeles to film Myla, and that's when the hallway Candelabra

472
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: dry Ice entrance mark is beginning. They did that for

473
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: Life Magazine. I think she had a four page spread.

474
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't just one page, it was four pages. It

475
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: might have even been five. He took pictures of her

476
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: in the back of I can't remember what make car

477
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: it was, but it was a convertible and was an old,

478
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: tiny Victorian age car, and Myla would sit in the

479
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: back with a parasol over her head to keep the

480
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: sun out, but the parasol was all shredded up. And

481
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: then she would scream at green lights and want the

482
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: convertible to go through the red lights. So she was

483
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: photographed doing that, people staring at her, like in broad daylight,

484
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: like who is that woman dressed like that screaming. She

485
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: was a hit. She was a huge hit. It was

486
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four, somebody talking about death AND's beautiful suicides

487
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: and eyeballs and frog brains and beteens and oh my word,

488
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: what else is she going to come up with?

489
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: Sandra says that Mila felt more comfortable as vampire than

490
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: she did as.

491
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Herself, especially at the beginning. I think that was her

492
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: alter ego because sometimes she would just put on vampire makeup.

493
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: She had short blonde hair, and she would just leave

494
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: her short blonde hair and put on her Mala clothes

495
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: and go down to Googie's with a vampire face. I

496
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: think there's a quote in the book something about hiding

497
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: behind the makeup. She could be more aloof, she could

498
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: feel more powerful, she could be more distant if she

499
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: had her vampire face. Some vampire gave her permission to

500
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: be how she wanted to be. It was that little

501
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: bit of the evil queen persona. She liked it. Mala

502
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: claimed that she herself was very, very shy. She said

503
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: that several times. I don't see that. I don't see

504
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Mala as being shy, but she claims that she was.

505
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: Maybe she was when she was younger. I don't know.

506
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: But she enjoyed being vampira. She enjoyed every moment of it.

507
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: She loved her. She's I love vampire irishoes my child.

508
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: I brought her up and I fed her and I

509
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: took care of her. And now when Mila was older,

510
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: she would say, now it's time for her to take

511
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: care of me.

512
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: As Vampire became more popular, Mila was invited to join

513
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: Bella Lagosi on the Red Skeleton Show.

514
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: I think there's somebody cold as it's my sister, the Vampire.

515
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

516
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: The Vampire Show was eventually canceled in nineteen fifty five,

517
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: but Mala briefly took the show over to KHJATV, where

518
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 4: she retained rights to the Vampire character. Meanwhile, Mala started

519
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: hanging out among the Hollywood elite.

520
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Schwabs was the celebrity hangout drugstore. Everybody went to Schwabs.

521
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: That's where they got their medicine, their pills and their

522
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: narcotics and everything else that they needed to function and

523
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: is oftentimes standing lonely, and so Mila hung out there too.

524
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: But then a new coffee shop was built next door.

525
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: In fact, they shared a common wall Schwabs and Googies.

526
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Googie's was a coffee shop. You walked in and to

527
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: the left there was a horseshoe type counter, probably with

528
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: a Fike case in the middle. So the people like

529
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: Mila started hanging out in Googies. It was the place

530
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: to be in Hollywood if you were just starting out

531
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: in the movies. If you hope to be an actor

532
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: or an actress, if you were a rebel, if you

533
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: were a free spirit, if you were young, you went

534
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: to Googie's. The old school stayed at Schwabz, and Mila

535
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: often said that there almost was a battle between the

536
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Schwabieros and the googie Items, and every once in a

537
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: while they'd back and forth. Maryland and Rowe would come

538
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: from Schwabz and come over and hang out at Googie's

539
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: once in a while, and so would Shaja Kabor, and

540
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: a few of the others would drop in to say hi.

541
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: But mostly it was the young rebel type people.

542
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: One of those rebels was perhaps the most famous rebel

543
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 4: of all time, James Dean.

544
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: You're tearing me abar what you say? One thing, he

545
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: said another and everybody changes back again. She didn't know

546
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: who he was. So Mala's sitting there with another guy,

547
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: and a motorcycle drives up, and that was James Dean,

548
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: and into goog Ese he comes, and she said, she

549
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: jumped up out of her boot and banged her crazy bones.

550
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: And the guy with Jack and her said he thought

551
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Mala had a stroke because she was just mess prized,

552
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: just staring with a peculiar look on her face that

553
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: didn't change, and he said, what what myla and Malasen?

554
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Is that guy right there, right there, right there that

555
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: came in the door, who is that? I must meet him?

556
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: And the guy turned around and looked. He said, oh,

557
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: that's James Deen. I was just in a movie with him.

558
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: I want to meet him. I've got to meet him

559
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: right now. They were introduced over by the cigarette machine. Anyway,

560
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: that very same day he asked her to go on

561
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: his motorcycle up to his apartment. They became thick and

562
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: fast friends after that very platonic relationship because I think

563
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: from the get go this is nothing, Mila wrote. Jimmy

564
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: became the son she had to give up for adoption,

565
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: and Mila became Jimmy's surrogate mother. She was always giving

566
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: him advice because she was eight years older than he

567
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of years, but she was more mature

568
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: and wise, and she was always giving it, don't do that,

569
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: don't do that, do it this way, do it, you know,

570
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: and usually he just ignored her, but he listened and

571
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: they were good friends. And then here's the bizarre part.

572
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: Jimmy was an unknown when they met. He had just

573
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: completed East of Eden, which was his very first movie.

574
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: He only ate three. In East of Eden, his character

575
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: name was Cal spelled with the C, and Mila had

576
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: given her adopted son a name so she could talk

577
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: to him even though he wasn't there, and she named

578
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: him Cal with the key. So I wonder what Mala

579
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: thought when she went, Oh, he's Cal Prass and I

580
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: have a col. So this is the Great Universe telling

581
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: me you're not alone. Your surrogate son is here. That's

582
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: my thoughts.

583
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: Mala and James Dean developed a passionate friendship lasted for years,

584
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: but it was also a friendship that would end in

585
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: disaster for both of them. On September thirtieth, nineteen fifty five,

586
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: James Dean died in a tragic car accident, and it

587
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: blew apart Mila's world.

588
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Mila ever loved anyone in this world

589
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: as much as she loved James Dean. She never got

590
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: over his death ever. She loved him like a mother would.

591
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: She couldn't believe that twenty four years in his life

592
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: was snuffed out. She had to leave town because there

593
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: were too many memories of Jimmy here. She was going

594
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: to go to New York. Marlon heard she was going

595
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: to go to New York, and he offered to give

596
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: her some money to get to New York, and she

597
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it. She had a couple hundred bucks, and

598
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: so off she went to New York and about herself

599
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: an apartment. And as soon as she got back to

600
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, here was Whisper magazine on the newsstand. And

601
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Whisper Magazine was the lesser cousin of Confidential magazine. It

602
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: was the gossip magazine of all the stars. And on

603
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: the cover was a picture of Vampire and Jamesteen, and

604
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: the headlines screamed something about that Vampire had caused the

605
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: death of James Den because she put a curse on him,

606
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: and Mala contemplated suicide. That was it. That was the

607
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's back, the person that she

608
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: loved more than anything in the world, she was accused

609
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: of killing him.

610
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: With her show canceled and her best friend killed, Mala

611
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 4: fell out of work in Hollywood. However, in nineteen fifty six,

612
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: she got an offer from director Ed Wood to play

613
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 4: a part in one of his movies.

614
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 6: Can Your Heartstand The Shocking Facts about Grave Robbers from

615
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 6: Out a Space.

616
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: She didn't leave a lot of information behind about Edward movie,

617
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: but I know that she had met Edwood at a

618
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: birthday party for Bela Lagosi's son. He had said something

619
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: to her, well, you're going to have to be in

620
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: one of my movies sometimes, and Mila said to herself,

621
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: not a check, are you kidding me? She thought he

622
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: was pathetic. One way to kill your career is star

623
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: with ned Wood movie. So then he sent one of

624
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: his people over to Mala's apartment to ask her to

625
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: be in his movie. Mila had lost her job as

626
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: a vampire due to creative differences. Let's say Jimmy was

627
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: dead and she said, na I don't think so, and

628
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: he says two hundred dollars, And boy did that look

629
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: good for my law because she was almost like a

630
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: cat food, like she said, and she had all these

631
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: cats to be so well, maybe just leave the script here,

632
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know.

633
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: At first, Mila decided to leave Edwarod hanging and instead

634
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: took a few other gigs.

635
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: A few months later, Liberaci came calling.

636
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 7: The Las Vegas Hilton takes great pleasure in presenting the

637
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 7: Liberacci Show and starring.

638
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Liberaci because Bella Lagosi was supposed to be co starring

639
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: with Liberacci in Las Vegas, but Bella became very very

640
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: ill and couldn't d opt out, so he suggested my law.

641
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: So Liberacci took him out upon it, and he asked

642
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: Mila to be his co star in Las Vegas for

643
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: two weeks, and she jumped at the chance because Liberacci

644
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: was the highest paid celebrity at the time. That's where

645
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: she went, and that's where she met Elvis. Mila would

646
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: keep running into these people. I'll tell you. Elvis was

647
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: starring at exactly the same type across the street at

648
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: the Old Frontier, and Mila was across the street at

649
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: the Riviera. So they formed a romance.

650
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: But when she got home, Mala found waiting at her

651
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: doorstep the script for Edward's new movie, then called Grave

652
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: Robbers from outer Space.

653
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 6: Reading is my friend. We are all interested in the future,

654
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 6: for that is where you and I are going to

655
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 6: spend the rest of our lives. And remember, my friend,

656
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 6: future events such as these will affect.

657
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: You in the future. Mila never touched it. It just

658
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: sat there, and then finally Edward's friend came back and said,

659
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: we're going to start filming here in November. You know,

660
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: are you on? And she says, well, I've looked at

661
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: the script now, and the script is so inane. I

662
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: can't say any of it. I can't bring myself to

663
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: say a word. It's so stupid. And this guy apparently said, well,

664
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: we don't care. We only want your name anyway, and

665
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: so that's why she didn't speak the word during the

666
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: entire movie.

667
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: Vampire's role in the eventually titled Plan nine from Outer

668
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: Space was entirely silent, but her presence was a huge

669
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 4: part of the film.

670
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 8: I was initially offered some lines, but the fact is

671
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 8: that the character, although I was built as vampire, the

672
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 8: character wasn't Vampire as I had conceived her. Empire as

673
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 8: I had conceived her was giddy, outrageous, and this was

674
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 8: a different kind of a She was in a trance,

675
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 8: and I just thought it would better if she was

676
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 8: in a trance, and I asked her please do it mutely.

677
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: Still, Mila was embarrassed to have done it.

678
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: She didn't think anyone would see it. She was hoping

679
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: that nobody would see it or a recognize her or

680
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: think about it. And I don't think she saw the

681
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: movie in its entirety until like nineteen eighty four, but

682
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: she was shocked surprised that it had become a cult favorite.

683
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: And it was also voted the worst movie of all time.

684
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: And I used to like to think about Citizen Kane

685
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 1: orson Well's the best movie of all time, Planned nine

686
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: the worst movie of all time, and they had a baby.

687
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: For better or worse. Plan nine is considered one of

688
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: Vampire's most famous and iconic roles. When the movie had

689
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: a cult resurgence in the nineteen eighties, Vampira also had

690
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: a new boost in popularity. Then Tim Burton made a

691
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four biopic called ed Wood, where actor Lisa

692
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 4: Marie portrayed Vampire in the film, pardon me, miss Vampire.

693
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: Yes you don't know me, but I'm Edwood.

694
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 7: I'm a film producer and I'm currently in production on

695
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 7: a science fiction piece with Bella Legosi and Swedish wrestler

696
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 7: Tord Johnson.

697
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: I don't understand. Do you want my autograph?

698
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: No?

699
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: I think my film is perfect for you.

700
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: You want me to show it on my TV program? Well,

701
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: I have nothing to do with that. You should call

702
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: the station Managret Channel seven.

703
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 7: No no, no, no, no no. I don't want you

704
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 7: to show the movie. I want you to be in it.

705
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: Look I'm with some friends and we're about to eat.

706
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 7: Please it would just take one second. Come on over

707
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 7: a meet the backers. There is a really nice dentist

708
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 7: from Oxnark.

709
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: Look, buddy, I've got real offers from real studios. I

710
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: don't need to blow some dentists for a part.

711
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: Forget it.

712
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: She went out to lunch with Lisa Marie and she

713
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: liked her because she was fellow Sagittarian. They both had,

714
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, November December birthdays. The one thing she didn't

715
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: like that Lisa Marie did is she says, when I

716
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: posed as Vampira, I crooked my elbows and put my

717
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: hands on my abdomen so you could see my tiny waists.

718
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: That was very, very important to the character. And Lisa

719
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: Marie would put her hands on her hips. That is

720
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: not the way it's done. And I told her before

721
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: she did it how to pose herself. Mala was very

722
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: particular about her character and that's one thing she did

723
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: not like. I didn't think it was that true to Vampira.

724
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: I thought it showed Mala as Mala. She had long

725
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: blonde hair. Mala had short blonde hair always and sort

726
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: of a gloomy guss. Mila really was a funny person.

727
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: She cracked jokes. She his very personable. In the movie,

728
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: she was just sort of angry. That's how I looked

729
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: at it, So I didn't think it was accurate.

730
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: Mala didn't do much acting or make too many vampire

731
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: appearances after Plan nine. She instead ran an antique store

732
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: called Vampire's Attic, on top of a few other odd jobs.

733
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: But when she got a second wind of fame from

734
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: the ed Wood hype in the eighties and nineties, she

735
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: reveled in the spotlight.

736
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: I think it did have an effect on her. I

737
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: think she loved it because then on top of being

738
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: in demand, she was able to sell her artwork on

739
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: eBay and support herself. That made her very excited, and

740
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: so she did a lot of drawings and paintings, and

741
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't think she ever did any pros. She did

742
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: some sketching that were very good. She did a pencil

743
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: sketching of Arland Brando. She did Jimmy very well, and

744
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: then paintings. I have one of her paintings. A fan

745
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: of hers sent it to me and I'd treasure it.

746
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: And she was able to sell photographs, and she went

747
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: to conventions, horror conventions, and she was able to sell

748
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: her photos for twenty dollars a piece autographs, so that

749
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: put money in her coffers and she desperately needed it.

750
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 8: Fifteen silent minutes, which has given me an entire new career.

751
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 8: Thank you, mister Wood.

752
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: You're listening.

753
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: With such renewed interest in Vampira. KHJTV decided they wanted

754
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 4: to resurrect the Vampire show, so in nineteen eighty one,

755
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: they asked Mila to return to TV, but it didn't

756
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 4: quite go as planned.

757
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: They had done a lot of talking to Mila. They

758
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: wanted to revive the Vampire's show, and Mala finally said, okay,

759
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to appear on camera. I'm too old.

760
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: And they finally talked her into making appearances as Vampire's mother,

761
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: and she said, well, vampire doesn't have a mother. She

762
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: just evolved. And eventually she says, okay, I'll appear on

763
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: camera briefly once in a while and mostly in voice only.

764
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: But you will hire a vampire of my choice, and

765
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: they agreed to it, and they had a contest to

766
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: select a vampire. Mila wasn't too keen on that because

767
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: she wanted Lola Falana to be vampire, which wasn't going

768
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: to happen because Lola Falana was a big deal in

769
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Las Vegas at the time. They requested if she had

770
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: anything from the original show, and she said, yeah, she

771
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: had some scripts and she had pictures of the set.

772
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: She would bring those over to Cage Jay so that

773
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: they could peruse them so they would know how to

774
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: set up this new show and how to make the

775
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: set look like her set original set that was such

776
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: a success for poison bar or marble coffee table, rolled

777
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: the spider, the death's head pouch, the color of the

778
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: sofa red. And she didn't hear from them anymore, and

779
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: she tried to contact them and tried to contact them nothing.

780
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: So she finally went to the studio and says, hey,

781
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: but gifts, well, such and so's on vacation and such

782
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: and so's sick and blah blah blah. And then she

783
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: finally what she found out was if you come back here,

784
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: we've selected a Vampiro and we'd like for you to

785
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: meet her. Mala thought, now, wait a minute, you told

786
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: me I was going to be able to pick the

787
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: new vampire. But she thought, well, the least I can

788
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: do is go and take a look at her. So

789
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: she went to back to the station and Cassandra Peterson

790
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: had not arrived yet, and she eventually showed up late,

791
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: and she was wearing a red wig and some kind

792
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: of a full black skirt, and Mala thought, oh brother,

793
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: what is this. And one of the bosses of Katee

794
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Say said to her, this is the new Vampira, and

795
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: we gave her the rights. It's between you two girls.

796
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: You fight it out. And Mila lost her stuff right

797
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: in and air. You did what you gave her, the rights,

798
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: My rights, she said, some exploitive deleted Let's just say

799
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: out the door she went, and that was the end

800
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: of that. They started production the first day, calling it

801
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the Vampire Show, and Mila had a CS and de

802
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: SIS letter sent to them, you stop right now or

803
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to sue your butt saw and they changed

804
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: the name to Alvira, Mistress of the Dark. But she

805
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: was a ripoff, Mila. Milah said, the only thing that

806
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: was different between them was the big boobs and the

807
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: top nod on her head. Other than that, they were

808
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: the same.

809
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: Elvirus first show called el Virus Movie macob ran from

810
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty one to nineteen eighty six.

811
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: Hello Darling, Yes, sire is Lilo may that gell with

812
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: a shape that drives me el viras Mistress of the Dark.

813
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 4: It was a huge success, and the entire time Mila

814
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: was attempting to sue Elvira khjatv for taking the rights

815
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 4: to her character. She never won that lawsuit.

816
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: It impacted her the rest of her life. She says,

817
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: she's going to the bank with my money and she's

818
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: buying fancy, million dollar homes. I don't even have electricity.

819
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: I can't afford to feed my dog. And you can't

820
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: blame her. You can't blame Mila for feeling that way.

821
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: I would too. That was supposed to be her show.

822
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: She was supposed to be making the money. There was

823
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: no al Vira at the beginning. There was only Vampira.

824
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: I'm bitter about it too.

825
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 4: Still, Mala had acquired enough fame from the nineteen ninety

826
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 4: four Edward biopic that she was doing pretty well. She

827
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: started to appear in a number of documentaries about wood.

828
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: And this man said that he yearned, he had planned

829
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: to have a hope to have vampire in his production.

830
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: I thought he was to grab a hold of my

831
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 5: heels and pull me back down into the you know,

832
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: Nicholson dimes Meyer from which I had clawed my way up, and.

833
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: I was insensed.

834
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: I thought I wouldn't work for that idiot. How dare

835
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: he to aspire to me?

836
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 5: Right?

837
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 4: And she was successfully selling her art and memorabilia to

838
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: fans across the world.

839
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: Things went very well until I think around the turn

840
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: of the century she got evicted from her house. She

841
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: lived in a converted garage. She eventually, in two thousand

842
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: and five moved right off Sunset Boulevard and she was

843
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: much happier there, and that's where she passed away, off

844
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: Serrano of Sunset in Los Angeles.

845
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: Mila Ermie passed away of natural causes on January tenth,

846
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: two eight, at the age of eighty five. This is

847
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: when her niece Sandra collected her writings and started to

848
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: catalog Mala's life. I asked Sandra what she admired most

849
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: about her aunt.

850
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: The fact that she never sold out. That has impressed

851
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: people a lot. Here she had this character that she

852
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: created and she was offered lots of money to sell

853
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: her rights. KBC wanted to syndicate the show. Mala said, no, no, no,

854
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: I would rather be poverty stricken than lose control of

855
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: my character Vampira and her honesty. Mila was brutally honest

856
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: and like I said, never sold out, never gave up.

857
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: She lived for over sixty years, most of those years

858
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: as a disabled woman and a single woman, and she

859
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: served Hollywood, which is a cutthroat town. Let me tell you,

860
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: I've learned that those things really impressed me about my love.

861
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: Finally, Sandra set out to find her long lost cousin

862
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: the child of vampire and Orson Wells, and eventually she did.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one. He was identified a seventy six

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Speaker 4: year old David Putter.

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Speaker 1: Through DNA ancestry dot com and they matched my daughter

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Speaker 1: and David as first cousin once removed or something. So

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Speaker 1: he called her on the phone and I had been

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Speaker 1: at the grocery store and I walked in and my

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Speaker 1: daughter had this smug look on her face and she says,

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Speaker 1: I know who mylassen is. I know his name, I

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Speaker 1: know where he lives, and I have his phone number.

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Speaker 1: I said, come on, get out of here. You know

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Speaker 1: that's not even funny. She said, no, I'm serious. I

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Speaker 1: know his name. And I looked at her and I said,

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Speaker 1: give it to me now. So she did, and I

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Speaker 1: was on the phone within one minute. I mean I

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Speaker 1: was calling, that's how anxious I was. And I got

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Speaker 1: him on the first call. He asked me, you know

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Speaker 1: who my mother is? And I said, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Because I had not sold my book yet, it was

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Speaker 1: not quite finished. I had another chapter and a half,

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Speaker 1: maybe the finish, and then I was going to be done.

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Speaker 1: And I said, you're talking to the only person in

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Speaker 1: the world that can tell you everything you'd ever want

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Speaker 1: to know about your mother. I'm writing a book about

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Speaker 1: her life. Really, I said, yes, your mother is Mila Normie,

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Speaker 1: aka Vampire. And he was silent, and he says, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I've waited seventy five years to know who

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Speaker 1: my mother was and I find out she's a vampire.

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Speaker 1: Just cracked up. I was so happy. I have not

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Speaker 1: met him in person yet, but he's sending for my

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Speaker 1: daughter and I to come visit him in Vermont from Oregon,

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Speaker 1: and he apparently has his mother's eyes, and so I'm

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Speaker 1: very anxious to meet David in person. He'll be the

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Speaker 1: closest thing I'll ever have to a brother. David's adopted

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Speaker 1: mother died when he was only three, so he's never

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Speaker 1: known a mother. And I've sent him a vampire a

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Speaker 1: statue which he proudly displays in his home. And he

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Speaker 1: feels his mother around him. Now he knows who she is.

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Speaker 1: He talks to her and calls her mom. It just

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Speaker 1: touches my heart. He thinks that Mila's there around That

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Speaker 1: makes my heart happy. Who can come.

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Speaker 5: In here is to go home.

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Speaker 1: I can have a.

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Speaker 3: Nice little.

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Speaker 1: Step on the cat's tale.

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Speaker 3: I don't being a cat, but we don't have a

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Speaker 3: cat a gy tale.

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Speaker 2: This episode of Ephemeral was written and produced by Trevor Young,

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Speaker 2: with producers Max and Alex Williams. Sandra Nimi is author

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Speaker 2: of Glamour Cool, The Passions and Pain of the Real

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Speaker 2: Vampire Myla Nurmi. Big thanks to Farrell House Publishing for

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Speaker 2: coordinating the interview. And we want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Are you a vampire fan? Who are your favorite characters

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Speaker 2: from the horror Universe. Let us know on social media.

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Speaker 2: We're at Ephemeral show and For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 2: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen

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Speaker 2: to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 4: Happy Halloween,