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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two here of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Gold and Matt it is fifth year option hour here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this could be a beefe segment.

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Speaker 2: We'll probably make too, probably do two segments out of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other non Steelers. We don't think it's

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Speaker 3: super deep into, but I think it's a really interesting conversation.

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Speaker 2: I do too. And it's the offseason. We got time,

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Speaker 2: it is, and I you know, listen, there are certainly,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure a portion of our listeners who really only

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Speaker 2: give a rip about the Steelers, and that's fine, But

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: Also there's logic to learning how the Jags think and

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Speaker 3: the Eagles think and was this a good pick? Or

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Speaker 3: this is why you don't take centers in the first round,

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Speaker 3: and you know, like things like that, Like there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of business to it as well, and it's a

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Speaker 3: flawed system is mentioned like that you have to make

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Speaker 3: that decision now is a little weird, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think it benefits of players, like when in doubt, I

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Speaker 3: would say no, Like, if I'm on truly on the fence,

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Speaker 3: I think you say no because what if they blow

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Speaker 3: out their knee in week one?

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Speaker 2: And going through this list earlier today, just kind of

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Speaker 2: glancing through it and looking at the names and everything,

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Speaker 2: there's only a couple slam dunky yes. Yeah, there's not

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Speaker 2: as many oh yeah no, Will Anderson Junior, Yeah, uh no,

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Speaker 2: but there's not a Burrow came up as like, there's

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Speaker 2: there's not as many slam dunky yeses and here that

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Speaker 2: you would that you would imagine.

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Speaker 3: Especially within the parameters that are in place now, where

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Speaker 3: the better the player is, the harder it is to

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Speaker 3: keep them. It useduld just be wherever you're drafted, boom,

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Speaker 3: they change the rules. So the number of fifty year options,

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Speaker 3: I'm almost certain of this. The number of fifty year

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Speaker 3: options goes that are picked up goes down almost every year,

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Speaker 3: and it's definitely less than it was ten years ago

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Speaker 2: And I think once we go through that, there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be way more slam dunk knows than there are slam

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Speaker 2: dunky yeses. So fifth year options and we'll talk with

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Speaker 2: these guys there is Matt just alluded to. There's your

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Speaker 2: basic fifth year option tag number, and then there's a

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Speaker 2: play time incentive. Okay, so if you play seventy five

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Speaker 2: percent or more of the snaps in two of your

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Speaker 2: first three seasons, or average of over seventy five percent

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Speaker 2: over your fourth or your your first three seasons, part

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Speaker 2: of me that hits you your playtime incentive, which you

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Speaker 2: know accelerates that number, raises that number. Then there is

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Speaker 2: another tier. If you made one Pro Bowl on your

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Speaker 2: rookie deal, and there's another tier if you've made two

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 3: That's not all pros, that's Pro Bowl. Pro Bowls, which

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Speaker 3: some dudes a good Pro Bowls aren't necessarily the best, right.

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Speaker 2: Albeit, the caveat in there is that you have to

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Speaker 2: be on the original Pro Bowl ballot. Being named as

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Speaker 2: an alternate does not ken. I didn't know that until

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Speaker 2: earlier today when I was looking into this too, because

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Speaker 2: I was looking at Will Anderson Juniors and he was

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Speaker 2: wait a second, he's made two Pro Bowls, but the

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Speaker 2: one he made a few years ago he was actually

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Speaker 2: named as an alternate. So that does not count for

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Speaker 3: And what's also weird is some of these players kind

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Speaker 3: of play multiple positions, Like that's a stupid thing about

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Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl too, is like DJ Watt goes as

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Speaker 3: and they basically play the same position.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's just an albeit in a different scheme. So

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Speaker 2: let's start at the top of the list here, Matt

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Speaker 2: exercise their option, yes, exercise their option no? Or you

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Speaker 2: can also throw in a third option, which is yes

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Speaker 2: with an extension.

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, you're allowed to talk extension.

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Speaker 2: You're allowed to talk extension too. So again for like

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Speaker 2: the Will Anderson juniors of the world, where you might

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Speaker 2: just want to, hey, we if we pick up his

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Speaker 2: yesterday's yesterday's price is not today's price. It's going to

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Speaker 2: only go up from there. Let's lock this guy down.

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Speaker 3: And really almost all the yes is you want to

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Speaker 2: Pretty close? Yeah, pretty close. Bryce Young is an interesting

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Speaker 3: So this is true for everyone, and we'll not start

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Speaker 3: with Broderick, but Jones is going to be a stealer

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Speaker 3: next year. This is deciding if you're going to have

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Speaker 3: him the year after under your control, your contract, let alone,

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Speaker 2: Again, sixteen months from now, is he going to be

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Speaker 3: So if you if you don't pick up one of

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Speaker 3: these options, that doesn't mean you can't sign them when

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Speaker 3: he becomes a free agent. Or you get the camp

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Speaker 3: and he's unbelievably good and let's talk contracts, or you

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Speaker 3: don't we love you, we screwed up whatever, Young, I

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Speaker 3: think you have to pick it up. And that would

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Speaker 3: worry me because I mean, like, the team is a

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Speaker 3: playoff team, they're trend they're they're kind of head of

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Speaker 2: They were eight nine, but they still won the division.

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Speaker 2: Even eight nine was better than people expected.

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Speaker 3: I would say they beat expectations. And Young was more

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Speaker 3: of a positive than a negative, and his career is

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Speaker 3: slowly trending the right direction. But if I was that team,

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Speaker 3: I would be petrified of being in Matt schaub Andy

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Speaker 3: Dalton land of quarterback purgatory. That, yeah, we like our guy,

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Speaker 3: but he's too middle of the road forever and ever,

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Speaker 3: because every day when he wakes up, he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: five to ten. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird one. I think it's a yes for

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Speaker 2: picking up his option. I would not be looking to

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Speaker 3: I'd be pretty happy to have him for these two years, though.

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Speaker 2: Two more years, Let's see what happens. CJ. Stroud up

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Speaker 2: on the dock of both both of these guys, Bryce

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Speaker 2: Young and c J. Stroud have hit that first playtime

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Speaker 2: accelerator in the fifth playtime. Yeah, but not Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 2: but the playtime, so they're both in the second of

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Speaker 3: Stroud's yes, but boy, these last two games were as

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Speaker 3: miserable as any playoff performance I've ever seen. And he

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Speaker 3: underrated going into Steelers Texans and these last two games

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Speaker 3: his position since you're one. I guess I'd treat him

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Speaker 3: I'd much rather have Stroud. Now, I still would rather

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Speaker 3: have Stroud. I think his ceiling's way higher totally. But

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Speaker 3: there's some doubts right now, there are I mean, that

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Speaker 2: I still think the answer is yes, though, because if

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Speaker 2: you're Houston, how are you gonna get better in the

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Speaker 2: next two years? Right Like in the go Fish conversation,

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Speaker 2: would you rather would you rather bank on CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 2: you rather go fish? I think I'd rather bank on CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud because that going fish is a that's a vast ocean.

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Speaker 2: That should be japan.

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Speaker 3: Lineman and try to help a run game.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, staying with the Houston Texans, this is a

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Speaker 2: slam dunk. Yes, Matt will Anderson Junior. Yeah, in fact,

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Speaker 2: I would probably be trying to sign him to a

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks are a little different, but most of these yes's,

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Speaker 3: that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: He might win and may prefer that defensive Player of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the next few years, I think he would

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Speaker 3: have been runner He should be runner up this year.

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Speaker 2: He's certainly again, if it's a Heisman type ceremony and

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Speaker 2: He would absolutely be sitting there side Miles Garrett. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and could wouldn't surprise us one bit if in the

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Speaker 2: next couple of years he won NFL Defensive Player of

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Speaker 3: In a fact, I think it'll come up with this

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Speaker 3: class too. If you got traded, the new team still

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Speaker 3: has the option.

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Speaker 2: Glad that you mentioned it. Yeah, glad that you mentioned that,

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Speaker 2: because I do think there's some of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Are there usually is I just remember.

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Speaker 2: Well Anderson Junior one of those few slam dunk no

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Speaker 2: brainer that we were talking about. In fact, you're probably

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Speaker 2: trying to lock him up longer term.

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Speaker 3: He's a perfect example of why teams like the fifth

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Speaker 3: year option. But I got him for two more years

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Speaker 3: before we have to figure this out. I am not

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Speaker 3: losing I'm getting that extra year out of it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And while you're while it's a big payday for him,

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Speaker 2: you're probably still getting them at a little bit of.

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Speaker 3: A barrow hit the old market. One year from now,

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Speaker 2: It'll be about it'll be about twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 3: Forty five, he'd be making double.

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Speaker 2: That about, is what I was going to say. Number

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Speaker 2: four Anthony Richardson, that's a slam dunk vatsle. Now that's

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Speaker 2: an easy one. Yeah, that was a gamble by the

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Speaker 2: Colts and it has not paid off. No. Number five

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Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon of the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: That's an easy one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's an easy one. But he has hit every

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Speaker 2: accelerator in his contract. But it's but it's it's a

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Speaker 2: little under twenty one million dollars for a big time

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Speaker 2: for a big time corner. That's even that he's he's

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Speaker 2: hit every possible incentive here. That's still well worth it.

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Speaker 3: I gin Yeah, and way. Something that's really accelerating is

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Speaker 3: the value of slot corners and or slot players, the

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Speaker 3: peat trees, the Witherspoons, you know, these guys that are

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Speaker 3: I always say that like the lamp that brings the

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Speaker 3: room together, the rug that brings him together. That's super

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Speaker 3: important nowadays in today's defenses, and people are gonna start

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Speaker 3: paying for them more and more.

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Speaker 2: Gene you know, Brian Branch Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hamilton's even you know, they're not all little corners.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking a lot about that with Kaylee Downs,

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Speaker 2: and we get more and more into the combine and

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Speaker 2: the draft process. Number six, this, oh, this is a

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Speaker 2: very intriguing one. Matt Paris Johnson, junior, left tackle of

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals. Because you're yes, would be. When he's

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Speaker 2: been healthy, he's been pretty solid. I'm a big fan,

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Speaker 2: and you've already got so much changing upheaval in that organization.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to just leave that one? Yeah? B

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Speaker 2: The other side of that is each of the last

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Speaker 2: two years he's ended on IR.

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Speaker 3: derailed them quite a bit. I still think he's a Yes, Sam,

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Speaker 3: he's a top ten left tackle for sure, and the

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Speaker 3: You know, like Bijon by year seven might be shot.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe that's one of those things that the

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Speaker 2: Number nine I think This is a is an obvious yes.

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Speaker 2: I think. Actually we're on a run here of a

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Speaker 3: Is it's a pretty good draft. It was, Yeah, some

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Speaker 3: No doubt, probably even easier than Paris Johnson.

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Speaker 2: That conversation takes thirty seconds exactly. Number eleven, this I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it came on really really strong. They've got they've

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Speaker 3: Though there's a flaw in this ointment. That's the Linderbomb conversation.

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Speaker 2: Every offensive lineman is the same scale.

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Speaker 3: And I got a rookie a contract or my quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. Number twelve Jamior Gibbs, Yes, exact same as

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Speaker 2: Dah I mean without a base. Yeah, those two might

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Speaker 3: No, it's not a no brain or garbage no chance,

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Speaker 2: It's no. Yeah, I think you're right. Just just eight

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Speaker 2: Will McDonald of the j e Ts Jets Jets.

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Speaker 3: Poor guy, because he's had a lot of sacks. I'm

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Speaker 2: To say yes, really, I thought it was an easy

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Speaker 3: He's a good player, Yeah, you got you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: You've already gotten rid of so much talent on that defense, Like,

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Speaker 3: But what's interesting too is like they have the second

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Speaker 3: It's a nice pair. Yeah, and certainly he balls.

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Speaker 2: Off the edge, you know it certainly is number sixteen.

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Speaker 3: He's a starter, he's doing playing much better for the Rams.

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Speaker 3: But he's I mean SHUTLA is getting a lot out

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Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty pretty easy one. Seventeen, This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done. He came on strong this year or too.

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Speaker 2: In his collegiate career with the pitt Panthers, Collijah Cantsi,

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Speaker 3: Poor guy got hurt. Like this was kind of looking

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Speaker 2: He's missed twenty two games in his first three seats.

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Speaker 2: I think he's good, like healthy, he's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets up the field and he's can make it.

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Speaker 3: He's splashy. But I think the answer is no. I

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Speaker 2: Out what you do when you've missed twenty two games

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Speaker 2: over the last three years. I don't think you can

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Speaker 3: Games for him to not be around, right.

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Speaker 3: If he would have had a year like he's capable,

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Speaker 3: Field explodes, Yeah, guys, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean I don't like I don't like many guys coming

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: It actually is surprising how many of these are very

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Speaker 3: Much more so than I bet last year's class A

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting one. Quintin Johnson wide receiver La Chargers.

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Speaker 3: I think yes, I think so. Yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be let's see here about twenty four million

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Speaker 3: I mean they're leading receiver. And yeah, I think thirteen

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Speaker 2: You you'd need more playmakers on that offense if you're Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: Trouble without them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, twenty three make a lot of the open market,

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Speaker 3: I lean towards the now.

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Speaker 3: I think he's replaceable.

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Speaker 2: I think he's very good.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, he plays flashed a little here and there,

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Speaker 2: Played less than half of their defensive snaps this year.

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Speaker 3: Tough one. You would think it's a yes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because they're already so thin and pass

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's super important to him, but he's also

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Speaker 2: He's going to say his number is less than ten

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Speaker 3: but yeah yes.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six Maizie Smith, who was originally drafted by the Cowboys,

439
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 2: is now with the Jets.

440
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Speaker 3: No chance.

441
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 2: Let's see here. Twenty seven Anton Harrison, right tackle of

442
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,160
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars.

443
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 3: Maybe I would have never thought that a year ago,

444
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: but he really had a strong year, probably their best

445
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,760
Speaker 3: offensive lineman. He's a tackle you don't want to go

446
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 3: tackle shopping. I'm gonna say yes on that one.

447
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,119
Speaker 2: I think so.

448
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

449
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 2: According to Pro Football Focus, allowed just one sack on

450
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: five hundred and seventy three pass blockers snaps this season.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

452
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 2: Twenty eight Miles Murphy Cincinnati Bengals defensive end, No nope.

453
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 2: Twenty nine Brian Briset, defensive tackle of the New.

454
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Speaker 3: Orleans Guess not good player. They're happy with him, but

455
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 3: not I'm with you, Yeah, I mean not.

456
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Speaker 2: As we'll have you for another year, maybe clock a

457
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 2: contract extension at some point, but I don't want to

458
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: be married to you for two years.

459
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna slap it on you right now.

460
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Speaker 2: Number thirty Nolan Smith, linebacker, Philadelphia Eagles.

461
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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna say no, just because he's a part

462
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 3: time player for them. But he's good, he's impactful edge guy.

463
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Speaker 3: I bet not. He'd be the cheapest version.

464
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Speaker 2: He would be the cheapest version, but I bet they've

465
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 2: got some dudes, yeah that they're going to have to

466
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 2: pay on that defense.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that doesn't mean you can't talk long term. Yeah,

468
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: more your speed, But he'd be pricey for an edge.

469
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Speaker 2: And then last here Matt Williamson of the Kansas City

470
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Speaker 2: Chiefs Felix A. Dounza Ozuma. No, I don't think so. No,

471
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Speaker 2: he I mean he missed all of this past year

472
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 2: with an injury. Yeah, hasn't He's only had three starts

473
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: in his entire Chiefs career. I think that's a pretty

474
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Speaker 2: easy no.

475
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Speaker 3: And then Porter went thirty two.

476
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Speaker 2: Right, this was the thirty one draft where who was

477
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 2: at the bucks that? I think it was Tampa Bay

478
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: forfeited there.

479
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 3: No, they took cancy as mine.

480
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, it was Miami sorry something, you're right,

481
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: you're right, Yes, that might have been with the whole

482
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: Tampa who yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, there.

483
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 3: Was some Michigan tampering of some sort.

484
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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. That sounds correct. Man. It's amazing

485
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: how we forget all this, these things that, yeah, only

486
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 2: only three years ago, but that's right. And then yeah,

487
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior would have been pick thirty two, albeit

488
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: though in the second round. So there's the rest of

489
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: the league. But what about pick fourteen of the Pittsburgh

490
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Speaker 2: Steelers Roger Jones? What to do with his fifth year option?

491
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Speaker 2: We will discuss when we return on the other side,

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Speaker 2: West Yuuler, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

494
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Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

495
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

496
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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little Roger Jones fifth year contract extension option.

497
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: Of course, the deadline approaching in a few weeks for

498
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Speaker 2: teams to make these decisions on the class of twenty

499
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Speaker 2: twenty three and their fifth year options.

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Speaker 3: Do you know the deadline? And I think it's before

501
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Speaker 3: the combine.

502
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Speaker 2: Let's see.

503
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Speaker 3: I remember it always like correlating with the coming.

504
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Speaker 2: Has may first here on NFL dot Com. That feels

505
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Speaker 2: too late, though, but maybe I mean it says the

506
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: fifth year option window for the this class open January

507
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 2: fifth final deadline date is May. First, I thought it

508
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: was like around combine time and the draft and free

509
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: most right, because they want to have this decision made

510
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: before they get to free agency, in the draft and yeah,

511
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: and all those different.

512
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Speaker 3: I don't think you have to think about it for

513
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Speaker 3: four months.

514
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it should be a four month conversation,

515
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: especially these teams that know these guys much more. You know,

516
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: much intimately and much more better than we do, much

517
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: better than we do. So pick fourteen Broderick Jones, the

518
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: first draft pick of the Omar khn Era that the

519
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Steelers moved up a few spots to go and nab

520
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: the left tackle out of Georgia Matt. I think this

521
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: was already a tough call before Broderick missed the end

522
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: of the season. I think he was trending in the

523
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 2: right direction, but then misses the end of the season. Yeah,

524
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: Dylan Cook and how well he played down the stretch

525
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: is a real factor in this. Yes, and finally that

526
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Speaker 2: number four, Broderick Jones, he would hit the first incentive

527
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 2: of playing time. Yeah, that's so not the second or

528
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 2: third Pro Bowl accelerators, but he does have that first

529
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: level up because of his playing time, so that number

530
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Speaker 2: would be about twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: So the short answer is, no, you don't. But before

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Speaker 3: the season or early in the season, I would have

533
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Speaker 3: leaned towards giving him the benefit of the doubt for

534
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: two reasons. First Off, I think he's very, very talented,

535
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 3: you know, I think there's a lot to work with there.

536
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: He didn't notice at the time, but he is going

537
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: to have a new offensive line coach, for better or worse.

538
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they'll do different techniques with him

539
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: next year. But the thing is, and this is what

540
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: makes things a little hairy, And this is before we

541
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Speaker 3: even knew about the injury or Dylan Cook. Is the

542
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Speaker 3: way I was thinking of it too, is your premium picks,

543
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: you want to go to our quarterback, whether that's packaging

544
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: too first and that seems very unlikely for this draft class.

545
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 3: But I don't want to go left tackle shopping again.

546
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: I do not at all, not even close.

547
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Speaker 3: Not even close, because those are first round picks. You know,

548
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to just throw a third rounder in

549
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: there and hope he sinks or swims type of thing.

550
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Speaker 2: Like we've said before, when when shopping for quarterbacks and

551
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: when shopping for left tackles. I don't want to go

552
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Speaker 2: to the used dealership and get a Honda Civics that

553
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Speaker 2: I can ride out and beat up. I want to

554
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Speaker 2: go photo.

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Speaker 3: Dealers have done that at quarterback time and time again,

556
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: and it's hard way to live.

557
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Speaker 2: I want to go to Porsche. I want to go

558
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Speaker 2: to Mercedes Benz. I want to go to Lamborghini and

559
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: Ferrari and BMW, and I want to get a luxury option.

560
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Speaker 3: I went the five star that went to Georgia that

561
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: has a ton of talent and develop them. He just

562
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: hasn't developed quite enough. Now. It doesn't complicate things, but

563
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Speaker 3: I think it makes it feel a lot better that

564
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: Dylan Cook played as well as he did. I mean,

565
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Speaker 3: the day Jones got hurt, I was eighty percent going

566
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Speaker 3: Still no, just because he hasn't played well enough. He's

567
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Speaker 3: not worth twenty million a year.

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Speaker 2: And now he's only got eleven games that left tackle.

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Speaker 3: He's only eleven games left tackle, which could be something

570
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Speaker 3: in his favor.

571
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Speaker 2: Like it just if they run to a line coach

572
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: that they hire says, hey, there's something on tape there

573
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Speaker 2: that we can work with.

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00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. There is definitely stuff on tape to

575
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Speaker 3: work with. But this isn't exactly well, the answer to

576
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Speaker 3: the question to me is no, I think so I

577
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Speaker 3: am with you on that. And by all accounts, he's

578
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Speaker 3: super popular and a really good person and fun to

579
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 3: be around and all those things.

580
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: And it's not like everybody everybody loves That's another one

581
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: of those when you're around the team, everybody loves Broderick Jones,

582
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Speaker 2: and it's he's friends with everybody. I mean, everybody in

583
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: the organization is friends with Proderck Jones.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he has like work ethic issues or

585
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: that stuff too. He just it hasn't clicked, you know

586
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: what I mean. He is and at that position, you

587
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: notice the low lights heavy and his low lights are

588
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: pretty low. You know, there's there's too many snaps where

589
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: he just doesn't block anybody or you know, ram As Simon.

590
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Speaker 2: You and I talked about that at times this season.

591
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Speaker 2: It was the Broderck Jones conundrum that like nine of

592
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: his ten snaps were really good, but then that one

593
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: out of ten, it's not a C, it's not a D.

594
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: It's it's a zero. It's a zero. It's like an incomplete.

595
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: It's like it did not show up for class.

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Speaker 3: I mean that was one thing the Cook had over

597
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: him and was just he always blocked the right guy

598
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Speaker 3: and at least always blocked somebody. There's a lot of

599
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: times Jones on all twenty two doesn't or his feet

600
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: get cross up or like there's no technique at all.

601
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: Now that stuff's gotten better as he's been league. But

602
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: I think this is how the O line situation is

603
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: going to go in camp because he's gonna be there.

604
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: Yes, he will be there next year.

605
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: Although he is a outside the box trade candidate. You know,

606
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 3: people are always looking for left tackle. You know, if

607
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: if you, I would rather take him to camp though,

608
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: because maybe a light goes on new O line coach.

609
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: Not to the other one is bad. I don't mean

610
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: that it's a different he's differ have different whole scheme,

611
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: so that maybe that'll be what you need. But I

612
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: think what will happen is there will be a competition.

613
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: I think we get to Latrobe, we're gonna be talking

614
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: about a left tackle competition. Oh yeah, every day and

615
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: charting them against Ty Smith every week every practice of

616
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 3: Cook versus Jones. Now, I'm not sure if Seamal who's

617
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: going to be back. So I think your pencil and

618
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 3: Anderson at left guard. I'd hate to move Jones again,

619
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: but could you take Jones and stick him at left

620
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: guard just to get your best five out there camp?

621
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Speaker 2: Sure?

622
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: I mean you move them a lot already. Is it

623
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: worth convinced? This is more of a free agent conversation,

624
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: But do you offer ciamal to a one year deal

625
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: and say, I know that you have a hard time

626
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: practicing on Thursdays, but you're still pretty good and I

627
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: think you absolutely, Like I just retweeted some about the compicks,

628
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: you just gonna have a lot of picks. Yes, I

629
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: don't want to use a first or second round pick

630
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: on an offensive tackle, but I would like to use

631
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: at least one, if not to on offensive linemen. And

632
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: maybe it's one of the you know howevery year there's

633
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: that he's a tackle at NC State, but his arms

634
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: might be a little too short. He's gonna go maybe.

635
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Go to guard Graham Barton.

636
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I might grab one of those what was

637
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: the Jets guy out of USC Veriti right right right?

638
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: Really good tackle in college. We're gonna bump him inside?

639
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Yea?

640
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: Why at mylam who we've talked about.

641
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: Or the mid round pick type guy. You know, those

642
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: guys are first rounders. I might grab that guy in

643
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: the third round that's not the beautiful six seven tackle

644
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: and maybe he's my because Cook might turn into a pumpkin.

645
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: I mean a year from now you may have a

646
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: massive problem at left tackle if Broderick is not picked up.

647
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: Cook's not good enough.

648
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 2: And trying to get a quarterback.

649
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: Like I'm at least getting insurance. I'm either getting like

650
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: that type of dude who's just a good football player

651
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: might be my left guard or maybe can be a

652
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: swing tackle or my new sixth guy, you know that

653
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: type of thing, you know, if Anderson's an everyday starter.

654
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: And I also wouldn't mind grabbing the project pure tackle too,

655
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: those you know the guy that is there's a dude

656
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: from William and Mary this year that is so raw.

657
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right right now, that's an ultimate example, right

658
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: that's like, yeah, like Alejandro Villain aava guys that from

659
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowlers.

660
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, the six seven good feet, small school bad tape,

661
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, and just have him sitting around marinating and

662
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: he might be my swing guy once in a while,

663
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: just so he learns to block people at this level

664
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: once in a while, and maybe he's your long term

665
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: left tackle. So when we start talking team needs and

666
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: draft stuff, I bet I'm gonna want to offensive linemen.

667
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Not a pure center. I mean a pure guard. Okay,

668
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: he could fight for that left guard spot, a pure

669
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: project tackle. They could be that guy somewhere in between. Okay,

670
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: you know, right side set.

671
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: I like that plant, I like that that then then

672
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 2: that's then you're doing it. No great, Yeah, absolutely just stolen.

673
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: You munchacked it. Munchhacked millionaire, millionaire.

674
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And so yeah, that that is And

675
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: I think to just the last wrinkle to add, I

676
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: agree with everything you said there. I think that's spot on.

677
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: Is that neck that neck injury, Like that's a real

678
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: wrinkle in this too. Chris mentioned that it'd be one

679
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: thing if we thought he was completely healthy and all that,

680
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: and you know, had gotten to see him for another

681
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: six games, seven games, But that's I mean a neck injury. Yes, absolutely,

682
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: cancer conversation. I think especially though, like a neck injury

683
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: for a big guy plays in the trenches, you just

684
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: you want to see how that heals and make sure

685
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: it's not something that's going to linger with him.

686
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: And team doctors might play that he's fine. Sure, yeah,

687
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: that's why you pay team.

688
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: Doctors exactly right. But yeah, this is one of those

689
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: might It's It's not a concrete yes or no for me,

690
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: but I'm leaning towards the no go fish.

691
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: And especially because Cook showed something.

692
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: And maybe you end up regretting it and you end

693
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: up having to sign him to a bigger deal in

694
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: the off season.

695
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: Then you have a good problem to have. That would

696
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: be a good problem to have, means you played well.

697
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: But I don't. I mean, you don't want to live

698
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: in your fears, but I don't want to be stuck

699
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: on I have to draft one this year or especially.

700
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: Next, especially with what feels like we're kicking that quarterback

701
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: can down the road another year.

702
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: If I feel like I have to use my twenty

703
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: twenty seven draft first round pick on a tackle.

704
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: Not good.

705
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Not good unless you unless you signed Malik Willison he

706
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: was your answer, or you'd draft will Howard's the next

707
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, you know what I mean? Like, someone could

708
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: Dylan Cook it for you?

709
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: Draft a Tyler shuck in round two?

710
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Right three whole we got a gain like, okay, well,

711
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: then we got that option, but I don't want to

712
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: have to do that same like shopping in that aisle

713
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: is the worst.

714
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: I am completely with you.

715
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: I mean, no offense to the former Steeler, but you

716
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: do not want to be in a position where you

717
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: have to give Dan Moore twenty two million dollars from

718
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: some other team, you know, because that's what those guys

719
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: are going to get.

720
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 2: I mean, think about that.

721
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: Jones is going to get paid even if he doesn't

722
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: play well or even starts.

723
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: Next year, He'll get an opportunity somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah,

724
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: without a doubt. And Dan Moore Junior is a good

725
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: example to bring him the fold there. He's a starting

726
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: NFL tackle Dan Dan Moore is no doubt, But twenty

727
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: two million dollars that's a lot of that's a lot

728
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: of money.

729
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: Here's the other small factor of the equation, because I

730
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: mentioned the comp just dawned on me. The Steelers are

731
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: getting their third.

732
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Because of Dan, because of Dan More yep, so.

733
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: When Jones walks, you will get something on the compick

734
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: for depending what his value is at that time.

735
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk more about those compics tomorrow on the on

736
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: the on the program and what that might mean for

737
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers strategy for the draft.

738
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: More peopled over the cap that have been putting stuff

739
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: out that are they're all funny.

740
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: I saw that too as you were looking at it,

741
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: and I was like, we'll save it for tomorrow. Yeah,

742
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: because I don't want to pigeonhole it here in the

743
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: last segment. But yeah, I I I think that's I

744
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: think that's the way forward with them with Roger Jones

745
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: and play this thing out in training camp in Latrobe

746
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: starting at the end of July. One more segment to

747
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: go on the other side.

748
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: Steeler for one more one more year.

749
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, one more segment to go on the other side.

750
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: We'll get to a couple of tweets. We also have

751
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: some potential moving and shaking around this Baltimore Ravens head

752
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: coaching vacancy that we'll discuss before we get out of here. Too.

753
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: We'll take a look at our AFC North foes in Maryland.

754
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: We'll do all that as we wrap up the show.

755
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: On the other side, West Sheeler, Matt Williamson. It is

756
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

757
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: Your tuns.

758
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

759
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

760
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this Wednesday has

761
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: plenty of moving and shaking around the National Football League.

762
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: We will have you know, when we get in the

763
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: back half of the week here, we will have plenty

764
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: of Championship Sunday conversation. Yeah, we actually young Nathan working

765
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: the boards for us, has someone from Seattle who we

766
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 2: think are going to join us on Friday to preview.

767
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: Someone who covers the Seahawks who's going to join us

768
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: to preview that game. Talk about the Rams, talk about

769
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, talk about Sam Darnold, and a lot of

770
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: the moving and shaking of that one. But before we

771
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: get there, plenty more to get to in this coach

772
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: carousel that is ongoing across the National Football League're gonna

773
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: get to some of your tweets too, But before we

774
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: do that, Matt, according to Jason Lockinfora who covers the

775
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens in Maryland. If you're someone who kind of

776
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: keeps an eye on the other teams and in people

777
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: in Jason lockanfor is a name that you probably know

778
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 2: if you kind of stay up to date on Bob.

779
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: He's someone that I would consider credible that in that orbit,

780
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say with this. He tweets out,

781
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: multiple execs believe that the Ravens are moving close to

782
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: a final decision and strongly anticipate Chargers defensive coordinator Jesse

783
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: Mentor getting the Baltimore Ravens head coaching job.

784
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: When this all opened, he was the one I thought

785
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: was most likely to end up in Baltimore. And I

786
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: don't love it from a Steelers' perspective, because if the

787
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 3: Steeler would hired him, I'd have been very happy with that. Yeah, Yeah,

788
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's a strong candidate. Obviously, there's

789
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: Harbaugh ties there. I mean, he was the defensive coordinator

790
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: on Michigan's national championship team, and he's a decordinator with

791
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 3: Harbaugh now and Harbaugh Harbor Harbaugh.

792
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: You know, he also worked for the Ravens for a

793
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: few years. He was in the walls already, he as

794
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: a defensive backs coach.

795
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: He's one of these dudes that so this is a

796
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: bigger conversation too. But Seattle is a great example of

797
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: Seattle is the best example, but it's also Mintcher esque

798
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: and Ravens esque, but so many of these teams now,

799
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: and it goes back to that slot corner conversation, is

800
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: you really need a player there that can do so

801
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: many things? You know Hamilton, they turned Derwin James into

802
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 3: that guy. So what teams are trying to do now

803
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 3: on defense and it's easier said than done, but Seattle

804
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: does it incredibly well. Is I want to play Nickel

805
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: basically all the time because the example I use is basketball,

806
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: Like if they bring in their bigs, I don't want

807
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: to have to subut.

808
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: You want positionless basketball exactly.

809
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: If you're gonna run with a bunch of point guards

810
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: and small guys, I still want to leave my five

811
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: out out there, my best five. So I want guys

812
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: that can handle everything. And you mostly are going to

813
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: get twelve and eleven personnel, but a lot of twelve

814
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: is really like eleven and a half depending if you know,

815
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: if John who Smith's the tight ends a lot different

816
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: than if Washington is a tight end. Now, that doesn't

817
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: mean you have to live in Nickel. If they're going

818
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: to bring out Jumbo, and that's why Jumbo is getting

819
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: so big is because teams are reluctant to get out

820
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: of Nickel because that's where they want to live. So

821
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: if you're going to jumbo it up, I still need

822
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: to get big. But whatever you want to play predominantly nickel,

823
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: predominantly too high safeties because everyone's so afraid of the explosives.

824
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: That's an analytics feedback thing. And still be capable against

825
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: the run Easier said than done. You know, I'm taking

826
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: people out of the box and I'm playing with an

827
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: extra defensive back on the field now enough to be

828
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: the best run defense in the entire league, But I

829
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: got to be pretty darn good against the run too

830
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: if I and that's when I hit the home run.

831
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: Seattle's great.

832
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, you talked about this with

833
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: Seattle yesterday.

834
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: Massively, and the Chargers were probably right behind him doing

835
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: it well. And a lot of it's through this McDonald

836
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: raven esque look at things. A lot of it stems

837
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: from Fangio to now. Sometimes those too high safeties can

838
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: be more aggressive in terms of I'm gonna trigger run quicker.

839
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: You know they're not gonna just mink it in center field.

840
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: Just because they're too high doesn't mean that they their

841
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: first step can't be forward, you know, or whatever you know,

842
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: and they also give a lot of coverage looks from there,

843
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: but he's really mastered that and with I think not

844
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: as good a personnel as like Seattle has. You know,

845
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: the Chargers. There's some good players, but I don't think

846
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: they're special across the board. No, you know, Khalil Max

847
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: up in Age, Darwin's a good player, but they're not

848
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 3: like only how many pro bowlers they Yeah, right, yeah,

849
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: it's not. And he's still got a lot out of them.

850
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: And he's supposedly extremely bright and good with the head

851
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: coaching stuff too. But it makes sense. I think they're

852
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: in good hands.

853
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: It makes sense. There's connections there already, and it'd be

854
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, depending on how the Steeler thing shakes out.

855
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: It could be interesting if he ended up having two

856
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators from Los Angeles. Yeah, head into the AFC North.

857
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: It could happen. That's pretty fun.

858
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: It could happen. Matt. Just a couple of tweets as

859
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 2: we wrap this thing up here for today, Matt tweets

860
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: us along the lines of those compicks that we were

861
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: just kind of hinting at and that we'll spend more

862
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: time discussing in depth tomorrow. Just wondering if you guys

863
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: think the Steelers will focus on trying to get more

864
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: COMP picks for the twenty twenty seven draft, where we're

865
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: starting to presume they will go after their QB of

866
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: the future, or will they try and spend more this

867
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: off season due to having a new staff in a

868
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: little bit more cap space. It's an interesting question. Okay,

869
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: so the good ones.

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00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: I firmly, firmly believe that when Omar took over, he

871
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: looked at remember cap picks happened a year later. It's

872
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: why I think he drafted Roderick Jones because he knew

873
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: Dan Moore is not good enough. But he's going to

874
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: get us a compic you know what I mean? Like

875
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: I'm getting two bites of the apple a year later

876
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: than the other.

877
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: And that's that. Again, to go back to where we

878
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: started today, start to interrupt you, but that's like the

879
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: the Omar Kahn Andy Whitel different left and right side

880
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: brain stuff exactly.

881
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: The Ravens have been the best COMPI team out there.

882
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: Philly's really good, the Rams are really good. Those three

883
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: teams won a lot of games lately. Yeah, there's not

884
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: a coincidence. Frankly, the Steelers weren't very good for years

885
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: in the competition prior.

886
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: It's something you kind of have to prioritize.

887
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Have to look ahead, you know, like we're gonna let

888
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: Naws you walk. You know, we're gonna let even the

889
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: quarterback decision. It seems so long ago, but when you

890
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: get Fields and Wilson, there's a couple of things you're

891
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: looking at there, like one of these two might be

892
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: our answer. That's that's what we're hoping for. But if

893
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 3: they're not, I didn't give anything up for either one,

894
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: and they're both gonna hit the open market after the

895
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: year and someone's going to give them money because they're

896
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

897
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: That's exactly what.

898
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Exactly what happened. So the roster that Omar, remember he's

899
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: a cap guy, I mean, he is a that's his specialty.

900
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: So the roster that he he picked up, I think

901
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: he looked at like I can turn a lot of

902
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: these guys. I inherited it into comp pics. The world

903
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: will keep spending without nausey, and you know et cetera

904
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: and Dan Moore. Now the problem with doing it going

905
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: forward is you gotta and we'll spend a ton of

906
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: time on this soon the free agents to be who's

907
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: gonna command a lot of money, there's not that many.

908
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: That's that you don't have his marketable free agents to

909
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: betting system, right right, right, right, So the wealth of

910
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: compics they have, now it's gonna be harder. It's not

911
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: gonna happen already.

912
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's harda happen every year.

913
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's just too hard to do.

914
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: And if you are going to get those, it would

915
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: be like from letting guys like Herbig and Joey Porter

916
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: Junior walk, which none of us want to see that happen.

917
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: It's the last thing I think we talked about this.

918
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: But remember the Rams went from Jared Goff first overall

919
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: until Jared Verse without a first round pick the whole

920
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: time in between almost they still made a ton of

921
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: picks in between because they would trade for Ramsey or

922
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks or whoever and then let.

923
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: Him go and then I get a third four von

924
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: Miller exactly.

925
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: And all those dudes they did invest in, they got

926
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: something on the back end of it too.

927
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: It's a good smart way to do business. Honestly, may

928
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: tweets us and says better to hire a system coach

929
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: from a McVeigh, Shanahan, Tree or someone like Ben Johnson

930
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: who was more so doing his own thing. Interesting, I

931
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: got what you're saying there, because Ben Johnson was working

932
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: for a defensive head coach. Like, it's not that he's

933
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: part of an offensive guru Tree, I don't have a

934
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: strong Just hire the right person.

935
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just hired the right person.

936
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: And kind of like Roger Jones, Dylan, I don't care

937
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: if your a first round pick, if you're a free agent,

938
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: find me a left tackle, you know, like I want

939
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: to go shopping if I'm shopping in the more expensive

940
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: but for this a less I think good coaches can

941
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: come from anywhere.

942
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if if there was someone comparable to Ben

943
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: Johnson available right now, he'd be a number one candidate

944
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: and for everybody.

945
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: Love it, you'd love it.

946
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: Hit.

947
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Both both Joe and Corbin tweeted us and said that

948
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: their dream scenario is Shula as head coach. McCarthy is

949
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, Flores is defensive coordinator. Well, I don't think

950
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: you're getting Flores and Shula. I don't see I don't

951
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: see that one happening. Do you know when Shula is

952
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: a defensive guy.

953
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 3: I could see McCarthy and Flores or Shula and.

954
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: Uh McCarthy. Uh, I don't know if I.

955
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: Steal Uh, I'll steal still ass or mcmaybe McCarthy. I mean,

956
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: I'm only wanted to throw this out there. Would McCarthy

957
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 3: consider being a senior assistant and somehow being on staff.

958
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's close to being in

959
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: the cards. That just crossed my mind when they talked

960
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: on the first time. Maybe you can get to two

961
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: of the names that are that have been interviewed. There's

962
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: a chance.

963
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: I think three. I love it. If you could get two,

964
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: you'd take that all day long. I think one on

965
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: the one offensive defensive.

966
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Both Rams or Flores is totally in charge of your

967
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: defense McCarthy because Flora is like I can't remember if

968
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: we said in the first seven or not. Flores does

969
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: not have a job, right, He's a free agent. He

970
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: is a free agent. So if he doesn't get ahead

971
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: job and they're filling quick, he just lost out on

972
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: on Baltimore And if you hire somebody else, you might

973
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: be like, well, we have a DC job though, and

974
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: remember us, we were the ones that grabbed you when

975
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: nobody wanted.

976
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: You, you know, right, not a bad place to be.

977
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the guy we hired a little older, maybe

978
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: you could take over for him in two years. Yeah,

979
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying.

980
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: Ian tweets us last one and says, gentlemen, when are

981
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: we going to start queuing up the old mock draft

982
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: simulators on the show soon enough?

983
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: I would say a round Senior Bowl time.

984
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: Like February, probably February time frame, when we really start

985
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: to get more into it.

986
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be honest. I mean, the senior boys comes

987
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: on me fast, like I don't know the names well

988
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: enough at all. And that's a weekend from now.

989
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: And we need all these all these staffs and everything

990
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: to fill out too before you because you know who

991
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: the steal if the Steelers have.

992
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: To go through all the free agents, you know.

993
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: If the Steelers high Yes, it does. And that's important

994
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: to note. And if the Steelers hire Shula the way

995
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: we think that they might approach the draft could be

996
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: drastically different than if say, hire McCarthy.

997
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so darting quarterback is a head coach or coordinator.

998
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: Before much long ago. Good stuff today. Enjoyed the show today.

999
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Thank you to Chris Hallick for joining us in the

1000
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: first hour of the show, and a big thanks to

1001
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: Nathan for producing on the radio side, TV mister Tyler

1002
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: V for keeping us nice and handsome on YouTube on

1003
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: the video side of things. For Matt Williamson, I'm what Schueler,

1004
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, tuning in here today. Tomorrow on

1005
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: the show, let's do some more draft talk. I want

1006
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: to circle back on some of these forgotten quarterbacks that

1007
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: were big names a year ago, the Club Knicks and

1008
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: the nus Meyers and the Drew Hollurs and and and

1009
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: what to think of those guys and and like I said,

1010
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: we do need to dig a little bit more into

1011
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: this comp pick stuff. So we'll do that more on

1012
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: tomorrow's show. And so for the next twenty two hours,

1013
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: I guess just take care and we'll talk to you then.

1014
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: As always, you know where to find us. It's on

1015
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,400
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1016
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