Speaker 1: Really now, really.
Speaker 2: Really now really he and welcome to really Know Really
Speaker 2: with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who want you to
Speaker 2: know that if you haven't subscribed to our show by now,
Speaker 2: well it's just abnormal or maybe it's paranormal. And today's
Speaker 2: show is all about the paranormal. Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2: Because it seems that a lot of people do. In fact,
Speaker 2: over the past several years, belief in ghosts, hauntings, in
Speaker 2: the supernatural has steadily increased, and today a whopping sixty
Speaker 2: seven percent of Americans believe in the paranormal. Really no, Really,
Speaker 2: Sue invited two of today's hottest ghost hunters, Ryan Bergara
Speaker 2: and Shane Midet to join us. Ryan and Shane are
Speaker 2: the hosts of ghost Files, a hugely popular show that
Speaker 2: is redefined the ghost hunting genre by combining a true
Speaker 2: believer with a total skeptic. Together, they investigate some of
Speaker 2: the world's most haunted locations, and today they happily share
Speaker 2: their entertaining and unusual old stories with us and be
Speaker 2: prepared to hear Jason's tale.
Speaker 1: Of the Haunted house Stabbing. Oh No, here's Jason and Peter.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to really know, really another in spite
Speaker 1: of what.
Speaker 3: You know, money, I'm doing old Robert Clan.
Speaker 1: What was there? Roberton was supernatural? Did he do a
Speaker 1: supernatural Robert Klin? Oh? That was his signature thing. I
Speaker 1: walked into a thing.
Speaker 3: It was empty.
Speaker 1: So this episode is about ghosts and ghost hunting, et cetera,
Speaker 1: because which, by the way, one of my favorite things.
Speaker 4: There is a not not Our Guests, but there is
Speaker 4: another ghost hunting show.
Speaker 3: On television that when I'm out on the road.
Speaker 4: There were some strange smart TVs where I guess there's
Speaker 4: a certain program where a whole channel. If a show
Speaker 4: has had a history, it's twenty four to seven, that's
Speaker 4: just that show. Yeah, but I well, you're absolutely that's what.
Speaker 4: But there's one that has a ghost hunting show that's
Speaker 4: twenty four seven, And I like a schmuck when I
Speaker 4: go I can't fall asleep by myself.
Speaker 3: I'm not with my wife and I'm out of town.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch something.
Speaker 4: Until I get sleepy, and there's always the ghost hunting show.
Speaker 4: And I know it's all a thing, but I'm riveted.
Speaker 1: So that's really good point. So the reason I wanted
Speaker 1: to make this I really know, really is I saw
Speaker 1: that sixty percent said that they believe in paranormal experiences,
Speaker 1: which is up from a year before, from the year before,
Speaker 1: from the year before, and continues to grow. Do you believe,
Speaker 1: I don't believe, And you know.
Speaker 4: That I'm wondering and are now fully conspiracy theory embracing
Speaker 4: world if people are just more likely to believe things
Speaker 4: that would have seemed a little hard to believe a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: And you know this because you're a magician. Good magician,
Speaker 1: But magicians and psychics uses too. They prime me. In
Speaker 1: other words, they didn't experiment where they say we're going
Speaker 1: to a theater and this is an architectural theater. We
Speaker 1: want you to see the beautiful architecture theater. That's one group.
Speaker 1: The second group is we're going into a haunted theater.
Speaker 1: Which group saw stuff? The second group a lot of
Speaker 1: them saw stuff. So you're prime, you're fined for it.
Speaker 1: The reason I wanted these guys in though you talk
Speaker 1: about ghost hunting shows, Shane and Ryan, the two guys
Speaker 1: that are part of this, that are the host of
Speaker 1: this of ghost foms. The good guy. I love the
Speaker 1: goal Gay because one is all in and one is
Speaker 1: a skeptic, and there's nothing better. It's like us.
Speaker 4: I've watched several episodes and it is. It's really fun.
Speaker 4: They're smart because they're constantly.
Speaker 3: Looking at each other like you before.
Speaker 1: And because of that though, it raises the level because
Speaker 1: they have to try and get good tech that they
Speaker 1: can use. It actually works. And I'll let them explain
Speaker 1: how they came up with it.
Speaker 4: What if it's all beings? What if they're all just
Speaker 4: for neither one of them believes? They never actually go
Speaker 4: it's all green smew?
Speaker 1: They please? Why do you go? There? Is there? Before
Speaker 1: they even come in, You're already to get and by
Speaker 1: and welcome theking and the Ruta guy.
Speaker 3: Gonna have haunted the end of your two break a five.
Speaker 3: When I come up with a good song.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take some Seinfels for that song.
Speaker 3: I'm good with that, yes, I will.
Speaker 1: Well, then go all right, let's sit back for Ryan
Speaker 1: and shape.
Speaker 4: All right, By the way, why is it Ryan and Shane?
Speaker 4: Why isn't it Shane and Ryan?
Speaker 1: Why is it Jason and Peter? Oh? You were on
Speaker 1: seinfeal h anyway, that's right. Brian Bergar Shane Theday, Is
Speaker 1: that right? Right? There you go are the two guys
Speaker 1: who do ghosts. We fell in love with him because
Speaker 1: I don't believe in psychic phenomena. Jason kind of does.
Speaker 1: And the two of you what you do? That's great.
Speaker 1: All these other shows seem staged, man, I say, because
Speaker 1: there's big money. You guys have found out because I
Speaker 1: see you have three sponsors on every episode. There's big
Speaker 1: money money in acting like you've seen ghost when, by
Speaker 1: the way, you didn't hear it was the intro. I go,
Speaker 1: what's great is Ryan's a believer in your skeptic and
Speaker 1: Jayson goes, what if it's.
Speaker 4: All a bunch of crap? Whether they both don't give
Speaker 4: a damn? They long pretend I've been long. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: Ryan to be sticking.
Speaker 1: But what's great is that you go to talk about
Speaker 1: how you got together.
Speaker 5: We started a BuzzFeed. We started a company called BuzzFeed.
Speaker 6: We were interns together, and uh, we came up with
Speaker 6: this show, and I guess the rest was history.
Speaker 5: Really, I guess that's the engaged version.
Speaker 1: When you did BuzzFeed too, did am I right? How
Speaker 1: many you've got like two hundred million? One billion views.
Speaker 6: I think I think more than that, but I'm not
Speaker 6: really sure. I don't really know you could get I
Speaker 6: was trying to say that it didn't seem like actually
Speaker 6: I think it.
Speaker 5: Was something more, but I'm not actually sure of the
Speaker 5: real numbers.
Speaker 6: But uh, but yeah, I know. It was a while
Speaker 6: ago and then we started our own thing over.
Speaker 4: Was the background because I I'm trying to think of,
Speaker 4: you know, I read BuzzFeed articles.
Speaker 1: Yeahah, was your background journalism or absolutely definitely how did
Speaker 1: you get to BuzzFeed? What were you pursuing?
Speaker 7: Well, BuzzFeed at the time was they had just started
Speaker 7: a video department in LA, because they were based in
Speaker 7: New York, started this little video outfit in LA and
Speaker 7: they were essentially like both of us were editors by trade.
Speaker 7: You know, our pods were weirdly similar. After college, we
Speaker 7: both kind of worked like I worked at Public Access,
Speaker 7: did a lot of like corporate video jobs in Illinois.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would film PowerPoint presentations over at usc
Speaker 6: KEX School of Medicine when people would give presentations on
Speaker 6: irritable bouse syndrome and like sleep apnea.
Speaker 7: The trend at Buzzy was like if if you were
Speaker 7: an editor there a lot of times they you know,
Speaker 7: because it was just such they were pumping out videos
Speaker 7: left and right, so they'd be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 7: come be in a video real quick. So we just
Speaker 7: ended up. You know, if you couldn't find someone to
Speaker 7: be in your videos and you had an idea for something,
Speaker 7: you would just like I just sort of start hosting them.
Speaker 7: And Ryan did the same. And then at some point
Speaker 7: Ryan started doing BuzzFeed Unsolved, which was kind of like
Speaker 7: the predecessor to grist Childs, with a different white man
Speaker 7: named Brent, who was He's like me, but like in
Speaker 7: a different font.
Speaker 1: He's pretty similar to me.
Speaker 7: And after you know, the handful of episodes, it was
Speaker 7: doing really well, and what was Brent was.
Speaker 1: Just like yeah.
Speaker 6: It went for ten episodes and then one day he
Speaker 6: brought me off to the rooftop of a BuzzFeed and
Speaker 6: he was like looking out. I just remember he was
Speaker 6: looking out onto sunset and he was he just said, hey,
Speaker 6: thanks for coming up here. I don't think I could
Speaker 6: do the show anymore. And I was like, way, why
Speaker 6: can't you do the show anymore? And he was like, honestly,
Speaker 6: I never thought it would be popular. I don't think
Speaker 6: anybody will watch it, and now it's becoming a thing,
Speaker 6: and I don't want to I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Really, he didn't didn't want to be a public figure.
Speaker 6: I think it was partly that, but he was also like,
Speaker 6: also the things we cover they're so grim, they're kind
Speaker 6: of scary, and I don't really like I don't really
Speaker 6: want to be a part of it. And he's like,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry to do this, and I was like, all right, man, today, no, no, we're.
Speaker 1: He was essential about the rooftop setting for that kind.
Speaker 6: Of traumatic I think he wanted to just kind of
Speaker 6: have like a picturesque background to just kind of you know,
Speaker 6: but you know. And then I was like, all right, fine,
Speaker 6: I guess I'll figure out another host, and I walked
Speaker 6: down the stairs, went back to my desk and I
Speaker 6: actually sat next to Shane at the time, and I
Speaker 6: was like, hey, Brent just quit the show.
Speaker 5: I'm looking for a co host.
Speaker 6: And there's just like a long, pregnant pause and I
Speaker 6: was like, you think you think you.
Speaker 1: Could do it?
Speaker 6: And he was like yeah, And I was like, well,
Speaker 6: you know, I need you to commit because this might
Speaker 6: become like a thing we do for a couple of
Speaker 6: years and here we are, like eight years later, and
Speaker 6: he was like yeah, and then he looked over in
Speaker 6: his Google calendar and he scrolled like a couple months
Speaker 6: and he was like, I.
Speaker 1: Got nothing Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, And I was like, all right, we'll shoot tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And that was it.
Speaker 5: And I was eight years ago.
Speaker 4: And was that the thing that you proposed at that moment?
Speaker 4: Was that essentially what you're what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Then? Yeah? It was so at the time it was buzzy.
Speaker 6: The Solve was a true crime show but also a
Speaker 6: ghost hunting show, right, and ghost hunting actually had not started,
Speaker 6: so technically.
Speaker 1: It was just and.
Speaker 6: They were doing They've been doing their thing for quite
Speaker 6: some time, and we we are aware of them, and
Speaker 6: they are aware of us.
Speaker 1: I guarantee I keep trying to get up Zach.
Speaker 7: Honestly, I keep trying to get a feud going with
Speaker 7: Zach Baggins. But like, we did a show in Vegas
Speaker 7: last year, a live screening and a Q and A,
Speaker 7: and I know he lives in Vegas, and I messaged him.
Speaker 7: I was like, hey, I really love your work, and
Speaker 7: you know, if you if you if you're around and
Speaker 7: want to pop into the show and he was like, Oh,
Speaker 7: I'm shooting. I was like, it'd be fun to get
Speaker 7: a fake feud going. He was like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: be shooting, but I would love to.
Speaker 6: And I was like, I think if people looked at
Speaker 6: a picture of you and then a picture of Zach Baggins,
Speaker 6: he's who would be the one to start a feud.
Speaker 6: I think everybody would not you because generally my role
Speaker 6: at dumb Line is to not pick feuds with people
Speaker 6: whose biceps are the size of my head.
Speaker 1: I would like to take this opportunity to do a
Speaker 1: challenge to z Actor to see what.
Speaker 7: We'll keep putting it out there. You Zach, if you
Speaker 7: want to get a feud going, you know we can.
Speaker 7: We will tabletop him or something, two of us versus
Speaker 7: one of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I offered on Twitter to go on a thing with them,
Speaker 4: and he went, you want to?
Speaker 1: I said, I never heard from him again.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sure he probably look goes to is very busy.
Speaker 7: He probably just forgot I bet if you get back
Speaker 7: at him, you.
Speaker 5: Know, he's spending a lot of times in these houses.
Speaker 7: He's going, He's going to Iowa, problem going the Balls
Speaker 7: of Kentucky right.
Speaker 4: So let's let's get into it. So the premises, and
Speaker 4: I'm and I'm assuming because I'm not as dated as
Speaker 4: I sometimes come off, but right, you basically are are
Speaker 4: up for the possibility of these being there's something being there,
Speaker 4: and and Shane, you're pretty legitimately just not a believer
Speaker 4: in this stuff. And and so that is the premise.
Speaker 4: So in any given episode, for people that haven't seen it,
Speaker 4: you go to a haunted site, you want to just
Speaker 4: run down an on the form.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I mean you pretty much nailed it
Speaker 6: in a nutshell, I believe in this stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm not even up for the possibility. I legitimately do believe.
Speaker 1: Gotcha tell him about the toothpaste.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you my Joker origin story.
Speaker 6: I was on the Queen Mary when I was a teenager,
Speaker 6: and I actually didn't believe in this stuff. I was
Speaker 6: a skeptic and so I like, any excuse my French
Speaker 6: shying d bag stick kept it when I would go
Speaker 6: on the boat and I was being kind of an
Speaker 6: ass and I was like shouting out for you know,
Speaker 6: something to come after me, and nothing was happening. And
Speaker 6: then eventually throughout the night, small things started to happen
Speaker 6: like I got poked in the back. I heard like
Speaker 6: a little girl laughing. And then the sink in my
Speaker 6: room turned on by itself, and it was one of
Speaker 6: those like twist knob sinks, not like you know.
Speaker 5: An automatic sink or something like that.
Speaker 6: And then later, when I was brushing my teeth, my
Speaker 6: toothpaste was sitting on this shelf and I was sitting
Speaker 6: on top of a ziploc bag, and then the bag
Speaker 6: moved and then the toothpaste got kind of flung off
Speaker 6: the shelf. He tends to believe that it was just
Speaker 6: flung is perhaps a little bit of a hyperbole.
Speaker 7: Well, the different The thing is Ryan told this story
Speaker 7: for several years, and the story was always that the
Speaker 7: toothpaste flew off the shelf across the room.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it flew across the room.
Speaker 7: And then some long he was like, actually found the
Speaker 7: v H the cam quarder tape of the toothpaste incident,
Speaker 7: and we watched it and it's really just.
Speaker 4: Wait, you were running a cam corderaste brush your teeth
Speaker 4: to make sure you did it right.
Speaker 6: Well brushes his teeth, I mean beautiful, But I mean
Speaker 6: my dad is a dentist, So.
Speaker 1: I call us when you're ready to brush.
Speaker 6: We want to for me to do without assistance. But uh,
Speaker 6: I will say that I don't know if I said
Speaker 6: it got flung across the room it hit the wall.
Speaker 6: I did hit the wall. I just said it got flung,
Speaker 6: which if you watched the film like that just kind
Speaker 6: of goes like goes like this, and it does get flung.
Speaker 6: Flung is you know, up for interpretation. Could be flung
Speaker 6: a foot, it could be flung an inch, whatever the case.
Speaker 6: It was enough to turn him from a skeptic and
Speaker 6: into a believer.
Speaker 7: And that's it's it's really fascinating because we've been doing
Speaker 7: this now eight years and we a lot of time
Speaker 7: when we meet people will be like, well, obviously, like
Speaker 7: you guys got to start, like like Shane, you probably.
Speaker 1: Believe a little more.
Speaker 7: And Ryan, you know, uh, And we really haven't waivered,
Speaker 7: which is because we've all gone to this, We've gone
Speaker 7: to the same places, we've witnessed the same things. But
Speaker 7: Ryan is even more steeped as a believer. And I'm
Speaker 7: just I continue to just be like, it's.
Speaker 4: Not the miracle in watching you guys, and it really
Speaker 4: is fantastic because it is so very real and I
Speaker 4: understand both sides. Is you know, I was watching the Alcatraz.
Speaker 4: I think it is the Alcatraz.
Speaker 3: You know you're you're going down the death shoot or
Speaker 3: the body shoot.
Speaker 1: I think you're thinking of Waverley Hills and you know.
Speaker 3: You went first and you're skipping to my load down
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 1: I have a great time.
Speaker 4: He's like he couldn't be not a care in the world,
Speaker 4: calling out. The spirit's going, yeah, come on, come come
Speaker 4: at me, come on, come at me, and just you know,
Speaker 4: it is water off a duck's back and then it
Speaker 4: goes down and you're like.
Speaker 1: Kind of me.
Speaker 3: If nothing was there.
Speaker 4: I'd go I would make it happen there somehow I
Speaker 4: would manifest something. And you go down and it's and
Speaker 4: it's like a really upsetting experience for you.
Speaker 3: Yes, two things back to back, Josh.
Speaker 1: That's the authenticity of it, the sincerity of it. So
Speaker 1: talk about the format, because the format starts out with
Speaker 1: a call, with a call usually to say from somebody
Speaker 1: who wants you to go somewhere. Correct.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we reach out to our audience and we say, hey,
Speaker 6: we are looking for a place to go investigate and
Speaker 6: then some people will say, oh, go to Waverley Hill
Speaker 6: Sanatorium and then we'll go, okay, does anybody have evidence
Speaker 6: from Waverley Hill Sanatorium and then they will send in
Speaker 6: evidence and then we will go and try and recreate
Speaker 6: that evidence at the site. But the kick is that
Speaker 6: I believe in Shane doesn't believe in this.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so you stayed overnight on the Queen Man.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 6: We actually were the people who broke in that horrible
Speaker 6: room there. I think go call like Pete three four
Speaker 6: here or something like that. They didn't let people stay
Speaker 6: in there, and then they opened it up for us
Speaker 6: and we thought it was going to be like a room.
Speaker 5: Can we get in there? It's just a concrete like slab.
Speaker 6: We literally rolled down our sleeping bags next to rat hair.
Speaker 5: It was really crazy.
Speaker 1: Never Shane have gone to a place we went. This
Speaker 1: was genuinely freaked me out.
Speaker 7: There's been I think places the first time we did
Speaker 7: because we didn't always do. Now it's sort of a
Speaker 7: staple at the end of our episodes we go on
Speaker 7: our solo walks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 7: The first time we did that, which was it at
Speaker 7: Penhurst Asylum, which is just this very old, disgusting asylum
Speaker 7: that I think is now demolished.
Speaker 5: Thank god, dude.
Speaker 6: One of the grossest buildings I've ever been in. Awful place,
Speaker 6: just smeared, which like literally, yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was bad news.
Speaker 7: The first time we did a solo there, I remember
Speaker 7: being like, I don't believe in ghosts, but you know,
Speaker 7: it's just staring down this empty hallway in this dilapidated building,
Speaker 7: very creepy.
Speaker 1: The first believe in rats. I believe, I believe in tenness.
Speaker 1: I believe in the brown red Cluses.
Speaker 7: So you know that that first solo I remember being like, well,
Speaker 7: I'm a little unnerved right now. And ever since then,
Speaker 7: Whool is a cucumber truly, really, I think the only
Speaker 7: other places that have like you know, there's there's just
Speaker 7: places that bum you out a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a lot of places you go to
Speaker 1: and they're.
Speaker 7: Like, oh, there was a woman here and maybe she
Speaker 7: you know, it's always like these these lower like the
Speaker 7: their tall tails women in Whiting. You go to another
Speaker 7: place and they're like, people were definitely murdered here, and
Speaker 7: you're like, okay, well.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's good. So we talk about the tech
Speaker 1: because the tech makes me laugh. If you have watched
Speaker 1: an episode, by the way, you get like three million
Speaker 1: average an episode viewers an episode.
Speaker 5: We're lucky that people actually watch our bulls.
Speaker 1: A lot of people watch. But the tech, you guys
Speaker 1: are very specific about the old text. Not we got
Speaker 1: the newest deck, but you always get the newest tech.
Speaker 1: The thing that you hold up and it can see
Speaker 1: connect the dots to a person making Yes, that's one
Speaker 1: of my favorites.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what is talk about that it's from an Xbox.
Speaker 7: Oh secret.
Speaker 6: Now here's the thing though, I actually like tools that
Speaker 6: aren't device specifically for ghost hunting.
Speaker 5: They actually have a real world purpose.
Speaker 6: Like this was a camera used for Xbox to detect motion,
Speaker 6: so but it was also used for detecting motion in
Speaker 6: the dark essentially because it uses IR dots and it
Speaker 6: forms a grid and anything that I guess like displaces
Speaker 6: that grid then forms the body like.
Speaker 1: The skeleton that a human body.
Speaker 6: So that is it's already proven to work on humans
Speaker 6: because it had to be because it was you know,
Speaker 6: pushed out by a massive thing like Xbox. So then
Speaker 6: retrofitting that to use it for ghost hunting, to point
Speaker 6: it into the dark, into the void, and maybe there's
Speaker 6: a body that pops up.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty compelling. I think they're fun.
Speaker 3: So what what.
Speaker 1: Is it that is?
Speaker 4: So you would say, well, there's some sort of spectral
Speaker 4: being out there, yeah, but what what what is the
Speaker 4: skeptic side that goes, what the hell is this thing
Speaker 4: that's looking like a human stick figure?
Speaker 1: What is the.
Speaker 4: Skeptic side that goes, what the hell is this thing
Speaker 4: that's looking like a human skin?
Speaker 7: I mean, generally it is a camera that is like
Speaker 7: looking for lines and shapes and trying to identify it
Speaker 7: like a human like shape.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it pomps up in like a voyait.
Speaker 7: Times it does, you know, So you know, I think
Speaker 7: that's the other balance of our show is that there
Speaker 7: are a lot and to your credit, like when Ryan
Speaker 7: started BuzzFeed Unsolved, he you were a big fan of
Speaker 7: a lot of ghost hunting shows, yes, but he found
Speaker 7: that like, there was never much of a balance. It
Speaker 7: was always people being like fully believing and just every
Speaker 7: bump in the.
Speaker 1: Night, they'd be like, oh my god, yea, it's.
Speaker 6: Just not compelling to watch two people in the dark
Speaker 6: sniffing each other's parts, right, it's just like, after a while,
Speaker 6: you need a little bit of like a pushing pool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think that's you know, as the resident skeptic,
Speaker 7: I'm I'm really just there because like I'm not there
Speaker 7: to spend the whole time trying to disprove these these
Speaker 7: machines or the equipment that we use. I'm more there
Speaker 7: so that in the one instance in the future, if
Speaker 7: we ever see it goes, if anyone who watches our
Speaker 7: show ever hears me say I think that was a ghost,
Speaker 7: then we have definitive proofs.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm wondering if he ever gets to the point
Speaker 1: or you got to tell me that, Brian, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny, it's ha' we go. This is now. I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm actually really annoyed with you, right. A couple
Speaker 1: a couple of times, Yeah, only a couple of times.
Speaker 5: Has it been caught on camera.
Speaker 6: One time, the first episode of Ghost Files ever, it
Speaker 6: actually happened. It was the first time we did this
Speaker 6: thing where you know, and BuzzFeed Unsolved. We would do
Speaker 6: this thing where it's like, okay, one of us will
Speaker 6: go into one room by ourselves and stay there for
Speaker 6: five minutes. And that was kind of like the ending
Speaker 6: of the episode. But for Ghost Files, we were like
Speaker 6: wanted to be funny, and by we, I'm this is
Speaker 6: an idea I came up with. Wouldn't it be funny
Speaker 6: if I had to get locked Indian building by myself,
Speaker 6: like by myself and uh, spend twenty minutes in there?
Speaker 6: And it's funny when I'm thinking of it on paper,
Speaker 6: and then I get to the location and I'm like,
Speaker 6: why the hell am I doing? But the conceit of
Speaker 6: the show was Shane would hide a walkie and tell
Speaker 6: me where it was hidden, and then your time and
Speaker 6: then my time would start. Once I walking back to him, like, hey,
Speaker 6: I got the walkie, Now my twenty minutes start. Shane
Speaker 6: purposely told me the wrong location. Yes you did, Yes.
Speaker 1: You did. I am a clue, you know you did.
Speaker 6: I put it on the fourth floor, and then he
Speaker 6: told me the clue, which was the bottom floor, literally
Speaker 6: the furthest possible location from where the walking actually was located.
Speaker 1: I actually on.
Speaker 6: The fourth floor, implied it could have been so, which
Speaker 6: meant I walked all the way down there. I'm literally
Speaker 6: picking up bricks just trying to find this walkie. This
Speaker 6: place is huge. It's enormous. It took me thirty minutes
Speaker 6: just to get down there. And then I after a while,
Speaker 6: like literally lifting up bricks trying to find the walky.
Speaker 6: I call him my cell phone and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 6: I can't find this walkie. I'm at the bottom of
Speaker 6: the body shoot the five hundred foot tunnel. And he's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's actually no, it's not there's on the fourth floor
Speaker 6: and I almost crushed my phone.
Speaker 1: Episode.
Speaker 7: That's also a great moment in the episode because we
Speaker 7: rarely like break the fourth wall and show us talking
Speaker 7: to the producers or you know, our director. But Ryan
Speaker 7: called on his cell phone and he was like, where
Speaker 7: is this thing? And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I guess you'll find it. And I like hung up,
Speaker 7: and our director was like, I think we should go time.
Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, no, let him let him go
Speaker 7: down because you also were When the episode ended, we
Speaker 7: I was like, well that was great. This is you
Speaker 7: know because it was the first show we had shot
Speaker 7: for our new series, and I was like, this is
Speaker 7: gonna be a really good episode. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: he's still here's the thing.
Speaker 6: I truly am terrified to do this, it's true, like
Speaker 6: it actually like this episode. When I had to do this,
Speaker 6: it was the first time I ever had to be
Speaker 6: in a building by myself, like a huge building, no less.
Speaker 6: And so when he told me the opposite location and
Speaker 6: I had to then go find it, my time had
Speaker 6: not started yet.
Speaker 5: I was livid because I was so scared.
Speaker 4: Well, can I ask some serious questions please? The toys? Yes,
Speaker 4: the spirit box, the tool, so some the tools.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, It's okay, still happen. I'm actually more.
Speaker 4: On his side than yours, and I'm already talked about
Speaker 4: the wrong thing. The spirit box, the voice box. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you ask a question, a thing comes back. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it makes sense, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes if you don't.
Speaker 1: Ky run it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell I and I know
Speaker 4: the whole thing that the the YouTube video about. You know,
Speaker 4: look at this sentence or look at this sentence and
Speaker 4: then listen to the thing and you'll hear exactly what
Speaker 4: you want to hear. But what is what is the
Speaker 4: or your rational explanation for why we're hearing anything coming
Speaker 4: out of that box?
Speaker 7: Well, there's the spirit box, which is like a radio scanner,
Speaker 7: and that is up to human interpret interpretation.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's scanning the radio.
Speaker 5: Like five channels per second.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go.
Speaker 7: Too deep and too hard onto why none of this
Speaker 7: is you don't want.
Speaker 5: To hard on a podcast.
Speaker 4: That's also the white noise thing that it's doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other one we wait to scanner
Speaker 1: can pick up radio waves, so it could pick up
Speaker 1: radio station. It's fully here. Ricky Martin there calling it
Speaker 1: for tickets. He's still the next Rickey Martin show who
Speaker 1: says I'm dying for and you got up I'm dying Yeah, right, exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's how that works.
Speaker 7: The thought that the paranormal people believe is that ghosts
Speaker 7: are somehow manipulating what you hear.
Speaker 1: Like the energy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the But the thing is, I I like
Speaker 6: the tools, and I think for believers they're very compelling,
Speaker 6: but I also recognize that they may not be the
Speaker 6: most compelling for skeptics, which is why it's helpful to
Speaker 6: have him around.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: And also if we do see something that's more like
Speaker 6: with our own eyes, or if we see an object move,
Speaker 6: those are always my favorite pieces of it. Or if
Speaker 6: we hear a voice in there's nothing there which happens,
Speaker 6: but it has happened in the show, but especially this
Speaker 6: latest season, it has happened.
Speaker 1: There was in the upcoming season there is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something that's crazy.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of weird things, and I think one
Speaker 7: of the appeals of our show is that, you know,
Speaker 7: we've had episodes that are absolute stinkers, like nothing happens, right,
Speaker 7: and we're like, we're like, well, we'll put that out.
Speaker 7: You know, that's an episode.
Speaker 4: So that was me and my son, my son Noah
Speaker 4: and I in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They have the do you want to go on a
Speaker 1: ghost research thing? Oh? Yeah, there's a couple of deeply
Speaker 1: halted sites and do you remember where you went? It's
Speaker 1: a place they go fairly often.
Speaker 5: It is a private home lowering mansion.
Speaker 4: It couldn't have been a mansion. It has like an
Speaker 4: artist's grotto in the back, and there's a playground and
Speaker 4: there's a thing and apparently it was just if you
Speaker 4: believe you know what you're being told. It was a
Speaker 4: site that they've been looking at for several months and
Speaker 4: trying to take groups too. And there was only five
Speaker 4: of us and they gave us the voice thing, and
Speaker 4: they said, yeah, we're going to be here from ten
Speaker 4: at night until about three in the morning. Walk around.
Speaker 4: You know, you can try and engage with something. See
Speaker 4: if you hear anything. Please, if you see anything, you
Speaker 4: have a camp quarter, you can do it. And you know,
Speaker 4: it began very creepy. He and I started with them,
Speaker 4: I'm not going up there. I'm not going up there.
Speaker 4: And two hours and we're like, I don't care if
Speaker 4: something leaves out kills me. I'm telling you. We did
Speaker 4: five hours to the point where we were. We were like,
Speaker 4: you're lying down on bendagrams and doggy.
Speaker 1: Dare you to come? It would be the thrifetime something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: But that all goes away when you're alone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that but my son did do and oh wow,
Speaker 4: he got so fed up with being made boor that
Speaker 4: he went he's literally, I don't care if this something
Speaker 4: jumps out and smacks me across the head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 4: He went up to stuff that I went, I would
Speaker 4: rather not go up there, and you know he was like,
Speaker 4: he come back and go what happened?
Speaker 1: He goes more nothing. How do you guys start that?
Speaker 1: That's a good point, you know, this is I start
Speaker 1: up as saying, this is a very lucrative feel. You
Speaker 1: know the places that do that. What's the Vedican Ryan
Speaker 1: does have standards.
Speaker 6: No, it's it's it's thank you you had a tone there,
Speaker 6: but uh no, we look at the history of it
Speaker 6: if there's an interesting story to tell, but also we
Speaker 6: look at just kind of the breadth of evidence that's
Speaker 6: been there before, because a lot of these places, You're right,
Speaker 6: there's like a lucrative reason to do it, which is why,
Speaker 6: Like I will say that one of the things that
Speaker 6: I pride ourselves on is that we do an honest show.
Speaker 6: And like Shane said, there are plenty of episodes where
Speaker 6: nothing happens, and those are usually the episodes when we
Speaker 6: goove off the most because like we are lucky enough
Speaker 6: because they're bored. I think people tune into the show
Speaker 6: luckily to hear the history and also kind of watch
Speaker 6: us goof around and then if something happens, great. You know,
Speaker 6: the idea that something could happen is enough. They're not
Speaker 6: there to get guarantee parents.
Speaker 4: Entertaining information and you've never had the thing that that
Speaker 4: you know, Zach and those guys get where they go. Man, oh,
Speaker 4: my god, no, I need a moment here because you know,
Speaker 4: it's like they're getting assessed.
Speaker 7: Or I want to say it a handful of locations
Speaker 7: though either you are like, you know, maybe one of
Speaker 7: our producers or directors will.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's happened a handful of.
Speaker 7: Times where someone will just be like, I don't I
Speaker 7: kind of feel weird here.
Speaker 1: I'm getting like a weird said, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I could do it, And
Speaker 4: it's part of it is that I have just enough
Speaker 4: maybe in me. But the other part is if you
Speaker 4: I'm very suggestible, So if you say to me, this
Speaker 4: is a thing that happened here, it could have up
Speaker 4: and again, goverything. It's dark, you're not seeing anything, so
Speaker 4: now go down there and just hang out and ringo,
Speaker 4: and I would be my imagination would start cocting things.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that would. Yeah, I'm freaking myself out. Just
Speaker 4: going into the room doesn't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: But the suggestion of it is, like I said, when
Speaker 1: they say it's an architectural tour, people go in and
Speaker 1: look around. When they tell the second group a person
Speaker 1: died here in the thing, five out of seven all
Speaker 1: of a sudden see stuff.
Speaker 4: So when you go to see a horror film, or
Speaker 4: or if you ever did something like Halloween Haunted Nights.
Speaker 1: Started the job out. Yeah, I love them, do you do? You?
Speaker 1: Are you a good audience for that stuff? I have
Speaker 1: a great time with that stuff.
Speaker 4: But I mean you actually got oh you know, I'm really.
Speaker 7: In like horror mazes. I similar to Ryan. I just
Speaker 7: like appreciate the artistry because those don't scare me either.
Speaker 7: It's only actual like haunted houses that you're a friend.
Speaker 1: Who got stabbed. Yeah, wait what at.
Speaker 3: A small haunted house Seaside Heights haunted house?
Speaker 1: You know, I give you. And he was very good
Speaker 1: at Oh, he was one of the scary.
Speaker 4: Actually he was working for the place and he's you know.
Speaker 4: His bit was it was what this is how old?
Speaker 4: It was the scares where you'd walk through and you'd
Speaker 4: step on those old supermarket mats that used to open
Speaker 4: the door for you. Hear, if you stepped on it,
Speaker 4: something would light up, right, So he would wait, somebody
Speaker 4: would step on it would light up and he'd be
Speaker 4: lying still like a zombie, a dead zombie in a
Speaker 4: tableau of something.
Speaker 1: And his thing was he could lie.
Speaker 4: So still that everybody would go oh okay, and they'd
Speaker 4: be over it, and they'd start to walk away, and
Speaker 4: that's when he would jump at them.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: So, from down the hall, I'm hearing this happen. I'm
Speaker 4: hearing to Now. I grew up from Jersey, so I'm
Speaker 4: allowed to. I'm allowed to pick on my Jersey friends.
Speaker 4: But I'm hearing like, I think that's real Joey. I
Speaker 4: think that's a real guy. He's a mannequin. Renee, it's
Speaker 4: the mannequin. I don't think it's not Jowey. I think
Speaker 4: that's the real guy. And the next thing I know,
Speaker 4: I'm hearing screaming and my friend is chasing these two
Speaker 4: guys with the baseball bat. The guy to prove it
Speaker 4: was a manne and took out his pen knife and
Speaker 4: stabbed him in a god So yeah, still, well, I
Speaker 4: just know Peter and I already and standing by. Whenever
Speaker 4: you need us to go into the haunted spaces where
Speaker 4: you were there, we we might take you up on
Speaker 4: that I've ever taken, like a celebrity or a no.
Speaker 6: We're thinking of starting up something. We will take some folks.
Speaker 1: If you want to go dyn I think I'll go.
Speaker 1: I think it would be great.
Speaker 4: I love being scared and I'm I'm like, I'm sure
Speaker 4: the cross section to both of you where I go,
Speaker 4: I'd love. I stayed with my family at a house
Speaker 4: while I was doing a job that we think was
Speaker 4: I mean, there was enough stuff that I went, well,
Speaker 4: I didn't see the big thing that sent us.
Speaker 1: Out of the house happened to me, But you didn't
Speaker 1: have the post. I was working for.
Speaker 4: Us, but I saw we we experienced a couple of
Speaker 4: little things where I went, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: That could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes, and so I would love. I'd love to
Speaker 3: go here we go. Okay, look at that, Shane, thank you?
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. What's what's coming up? Anything new that
Speaker 1: they should be ready for. We've got our new season
Speaker 1: of Ghost Finals coming up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, starting uh that's starting over in uh well, we
Speaker 6: haven't announced it, but it's in the fall.
Speaker 1: Gonna be in the fall.
Speaker 6: And then we also have a new series coming out
Speaker 6: called Weird Wonderful World, where we basically travel around really
Speaker 6: goofy spots in l A. It's kind of like California Gold,
Speaker 6: which is why we have these silly mustaches on you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in. Thank you, thanks for having.
Speaker 4: So that's that they're like younger and better looking versions
Speaker 4: of us.
Speaker 1: Everybody is like young girl be damn, we should have
Speaker 1: done a ghost show Schmark. Yeah, I know, damn, I know.
Speaker 1: Is it too late? Yeah? Yeah, David yea the ghost.
Speaker 1: Do you get scared from ghosts? Do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 1: Not even a little bit?
Speaker 3: Not really.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: So I'm the only one. Yeah, I'm the only one
Speaker 3: that gets at a little nervous.
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I've done the ghost tours and they're fun and certainly
Speaker 8: there's a certain history, you know, assuming that they're not
Speaker 8: telling you bunk as far as who was living there
Speaker 8: or getting killed and that type of thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, yeah, that's the way. So what do
Speaker 1: you got?
Speaker 8: Well, some of the things that we all love about ghosts,
Speaker 8: of course, are ghost movies. And I just thought i'd
Speaker 8: do a quickie interest since there was nothing.
Speaker 1: To debunk about the episode hooie.
Speaker 8: But the top five ghost movies of all time were
Speaker 8: surprising to me, So here we go. Number five is
Speaker 8: the annim Bell creation, not even the original one.
Speaker 1: It was sequel number four.
Speaker 3: The Annabelle that I've never heard of.
Speaker 1: That well there was. It was a movie.
Speaker 8: It was Annabelle, it was you know, Ghosts and Girls.
Speaker 1: I think it wasn't I'm not how long this is?
Speaker 8: The Creation one was twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: What not even on my no, never heard that said
Speaker 1: it's like Star Wars number creation. Okay, oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: made three hundred millions, So there you go.
Speaker 8: Yeah, number four the conjuring have you heard series?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Four, and number three is the conjuring to of course,
Speaker 8: this is the big thing.
Speaker 1: Number two.
Speaker 8: Of course everyone's favorite, The Exorcist.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 8: And you and you picked the number one the highest
Speaker 8: gross thing ghost, ghost movie, ghost, ghostbusters, ghost no ghost
Speaker 8: you think ghosts?
Speaker 1: You think no?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 4: Hold on, ghost movie, ghost host movie?
Speaker 3: Uh is poulter Geist? Does that count.
Speaker 1: That? Well, yeah, that would be a ghost movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one is.
Speaker 8: You do get to see dead people in it.
Speaker 1: I see I see the one which says, oh six
Speaker 1: cents six.
Speaker 8: How big is that was in nineteen ninety nine, and
Speaker 8: that's six hundred and seventy two one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that it was a great movie.
Speaker 4: It was a great movie. It is, and you know
Speaker 4: some of the most just to finish up on our topic.
Speaker 4: Some of the most haunted supposed places in America as
Speaker 4: our theaters.
Speaker 1: There have been more, there have been.
Speaker 4: Almost every Broadway theater is reported to have at least
Speaker 4: one ghost, and that is why we have the tradition
Speaker 4: of the ghost light. At the end of every performance
Speaker 4: or when a show is closed. When a theater is
Speaker 4: dark and it doesn't have a show in it, there
Speaker 4: is one light stand with one light bulb that is
Speaker 4: on until the next people come in to start the
Speaker 4: next thing, or until the next day's performance. And it's
Speaker 4: called the ghost light, and it was to honor they still.
Speaker 4: You bet you assume that there are spirits in this theater,
Speaker 4: that you know that this is a hallowed place in
Speaker 4: some ways, and that there are spirits here, and you
Speaker 4: leave the light on so that those spirits never feel
Speaker 4: that you've abandoned them, and that you'll be back to performance.
Speaker 4: It's it's kind of wonderful and I but it's I
Speaker 4: tell you. If you ever you know you're alone and
Speaker 4: you walk into an empty Broadway theater and it's just
Speaker 4: the ghost on.
Speaker 1: The stage, you go, wow, they all have it all
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 4: You bet you are probably every theater I've ever working
Speaker 4: across the country, they leave a ghost light.
Speaker 2: No no, really, that's another episode of Really No Really
Speaker 2: comes to a closing. Now you're wondering what are some
Speaker 2: of the allegedly most haunted places in America? Well, that
Speaker 2: ghost tour in just a moment. But first let's thank
Speaker 2: our guests, the Google guys, Ryan Bergara and Shane Meday.
Speaker 2: Their website is watchour Entertainment dot com on YouTube, their
Speaker 2: show is ghost Files on x They are at we
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Speaker 2: haunted places in America?
Speaker 1: You ask?
Speaker 2: Well, According to travelsite condon Nast, here's a few to
Speaker 2: check out. The Crescent Hotel in Eureka Springs, Arkansas, is
Speaker 2: an operating hotel haunted by at least eight ghosts, ranging
Speaker 2: from a five year old girl to a bearded man
Speaker 2: wearing Victorian clothing and rocking it.
Speaker 1: The Dock Street Theater.
Speaker 2: In Charleston, South Carolina, one of the oldest theaters in America.
Speaker 2: The ghost here is Neddie Dickerson, who supposedly was struck
Speaker 2: by lightning while standing on the balcony of the hotel.
Speaker 2: Her shadow is seen along the second floor of the theater,
Speaker 2: dressed in a red gown, also walking about his Junius
Speaker 2: Brutus Booth, a renowned nineteenth century actor and the father
Speaker 2: of Lincoln assassin.
Speaker 1: John Wilkes Booth.
Speaker 2: And lastly, the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California,
Speaker 2: home of the manufacturer of the Winchester rifle after he
Speaker 2: and his child mysteriously died. His widow was informed by
Speaker 2: a medium that the family was killed by the ghosts
Speaker 2: of gunshot victims. To confuse and evade the vengeful spirits,
Speaker 2: she commissioned the dwelling we see today. The bizarre house
Speaker 2: includes staircases that lead directly into the ceiling, doors that
Speaker 2: open onto brick walls, and windows that can take you
Speaker 2: to secret passages. So happy travels, fearless ghost hunters, and
Speaker 2: let us know if you see anything. Really NA Really
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