WEBVTT - Real Life Ghostbusters – Meet the Ghost Files Guys 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.720 Really now, really. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:11.200 Really now really he and welcome to really Know Really 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.680 with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who want you to 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.080 know that if you haven't subscribed to our show by now, 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:20.479 well it's just abnormal or maybe it's paranormal. And today's 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.920 show is all about the paranormal. Do you believe in ghosts? 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.600 Because it seems that a lot of people do. In fact, 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.520 over the past several years, belief in ghosts, hauntings, in 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.919 the supernatural has steadily increased, and today a whopping sixty 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:38.400 seven percent of Americans believe in the paranormal. Really no, Really, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.760 Sue invited two of today's hottest ghost hunters, Ryan Bergara 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.599 and Shane Midet to join us. Ryan and Shane are 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.880 the hosts of ghost Files, a hugely popular show that 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.360 is redefined the ghost hunting genre by combining a true 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.640 believer with a total skeptic. Together, they investigate some of 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.160 the world's most haunted locations, and today they happily share 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.840 their entertaining and unusual old stories with us and be 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.520 prepared to hear Jason's tale. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:12.839 Of the Haunted house Stabbing. Oh No, here's Jason and Peter. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.880 Hello and welcome to really know, really another in spite 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:17.160 of what. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:29.800 You know, money, I'm doing old Robert Clan. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.200 What was there? Roberton was supernatural? Did he do a 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.399 supernatural Robert Klin? Oh? That was his signature thing. I 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.200 walked into a thing. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.679 It was empty. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:46.280 So this episode is about ghosts and ghost hunting, et cetera, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.120 because which, by the way, one of my favorite things. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.360 There is a not not Our Guests, but there is 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.200 another ghost hunting show. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.200 On television that when I'm out on the road. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.560 There were some strange smart TVs where I guess there's 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.200 a certain program where a whole channel. If a show 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.880 has had a history, it's twenty four to seven, that's 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.080 just that show. Yeah, but I well, you're absolutely that's what. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.519 But there's one that has a ghost hunting show that's 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.440 twenty four seven, And I like a schmuck when I 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.560 go I can't fall asleep by myself. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.760 I'm not with my wife and I'm out of town. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.440 I'm gonna watch something. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.920 Until I get sleepy, and there's always the ghost hunting show. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.920 And I know it's all a thing, but I'm riveted. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.440 So that's really good point. So the reason I wanted 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:31.880 to make this I really know, really is I saw 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.560 that sixty percent said that they believe in paranormal experiences, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.360 which is up from a year before, from the year before, 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.920 from the year before, and continues to grow. Do you believe, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.240 I don't believe, And you know. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:46.920 That I'm wondering and are now fully conspiracy theory embracing 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:51.160 world if people are just more likely to believe things 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.079 that would have seemed a little hard to believe a 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:53.880 couple of years ago. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.760 And you know this because you're a magician. Good magician, 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.200 But magicians and psychics uses too. They prime me. In 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.239 other words, they didn't experiment where they say we're going 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.680 to a theater and this is an architectural theater. We 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.320 want you to see the beautiful architecture theater. That's one group. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.440 The second group is we're going into a haunted theater. 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.920 Which group saw stuff? The second group a lot of 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.920 them saw stuff. So you're prime, you're fined for it. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.560 The reason I wanted these guys in though you talk 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:22.440 about ghost hunting shows, Shane and Ryan, the two guys 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.000 that are part of this, that are the host of 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.840 this of ghost foms. The good guy. I love the 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.600 goal Gay because one is all in and one is 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.640 a skeptic, and there's nothing better. It's like us. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.560 I've watched several episodes and it is. It's really fun. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.600 They're smart because they're constantly. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.240 Looking at each other like you before. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.480 And because of that though, it raises the level because 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.200 they have to try and get good tech that they 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.240 can use. It actually works. And I'll let them explain 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:48.240 how they came up with it. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.120 What if it's all beings? What if they're all just 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.320 for neither one of them believes? They never actually go 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:54.360 it's all green smew? 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.040 They please? Why do you go? There? Is there? Before 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.840 they even come in, You're already to get and by 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:10.880 and welcome theking and the Ruta guy. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.039 Gonna have haunted the end of your two break a five. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.080 When I come up with a good song. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.440 You're gonna take some Seinfels for that song. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.080 I'm good with that, yes, I will. 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.279 Well, then go all right, let's sit back for Ryan 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:25.680 and shape. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.360 All right, By the way, why is it Ryan and Shane? 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:29.640 Why isn't it Shane and Ryan? 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.159 Why is it Jason and Peter? Oh? You were on 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.440 seinfeal h anyway, that's right. Brian Bergar Shane Theday, Is 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.800 that right? Right? There you go are the two guys 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.520 who do ghosts. We fell in love with him because 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.840 I don't believe in psychic phenomena. Jason kind of does. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:46.920 And the two of you what you do? That's great. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.240 All these other shows seem staged, man, I say, because 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.880 there's big money. You guys have found out because I 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.839 see you have three sponsors on every episode. There's big 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:01.159 money money in acting like you've seen ghost when, by 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.760 the way, you didn't hear it was the intro. I go, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.680 what's great is Ryan's a believer in your skeptic and 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:07.760 Jayson goes, what if it's. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:13.280 All a bunch of crap? Whether they both don't give 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:18.840 a damn? They long pretend I've been long. Yeah, it's 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:19.839 Ryan to be sticking. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.200 But what's great is that you go to talk about 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:22.960 how you got together. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.919 We started a BuzzFeed. We started a company called BuzzFeed. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.120 We were interns together, and uh, we came up with 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.320 this show, and I guess the rest was history. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:32.960 Really, I guess that's the engaged version. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.960 When you did BuzzFeed too, did am I right? How 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.719 many you've got like two hundred million? One billion views. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.640 I think I think more than that, but I'm not 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:46.240 really sure. I don't really know you could get I 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.279 was trying to say that it didn't seem like actually 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:49.880 I think it. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.760 Was something more, but I'm not actually sure of the 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:53.360 real numbers. 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.160 But uh, but yeah, I know. It was a while 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.480 ago and then we started our own thing over. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.960 Was the background because I I'm trying to think of, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.119 you know, I read BuzzFeed articles. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:08.640 Yeahah, was your background journalism or absolutely definitely how did 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.920 you get to BuzzFeed? What were you pursuing? 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.440 Well, BuzzFeed at the time was they had just started 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.359 a video department in LA, because they were based in 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.760 New York, started this little video outfit in LA and 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.240 they were essentially like both of us were editors by trade. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.200 You know, our pods were weirdly similar. After college, we 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.239 both kind of worked like I worked at Public Access, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.200 did a lot of like corporate video jobs in Illinois. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.000 Yeah, and I would film PowerPoint presentations over at usc 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.800 KEX School of Medicine when people would give presentations on 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.839 irritable bouse syndrome and like sleep apnea. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.800 The trend at Buzzy was like if if you were 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.680 an editor there a lot of times they you know, 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.719 because it was just such they were pumping out videos 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.479 left and right, so they'd be like, oh, you know, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.400 come be in a video real quick. So we just 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.000 ended up. You know, if you couldn't find someone to 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.000 be in your videos and you had an idea for something, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.760 you would just like I just sort of start hosting them. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.280 And Ryan did the same. And then at some point 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.240 Ryan started doing BuzzFeed Unsolved, which was kind of like 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:10.560 the predecessor to grist Childs, with a different white man 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.800 named Brent, who was He's like me, but like in 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:14.640 a different font. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.080 He's pretty similar to me. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:23.200 And after you know, the handful of episodes, it was 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.240 doing really well, and what was Brent was. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:25.760 Just like yeah. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.120 It went for ten episodes and then one day he 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.880 brought me off to the rooftop of a BuzzFeed and 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.680 he was like looking out. I just remember he was 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.840 looking out onto sunset and he was he just said, hey, 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.360 thanks for coming up here. I don't think I could 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.480 do the show anymore. And I was like, way, why 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.280 can't you do the show anymore? And he was like, honestly, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.360 I never thought it would be popular. I don't think 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.360 anybody will watch it, and now it's becoming a thing, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.400 and I don't want to I can't do it. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.280 Really, he didn't didn't want to be a public figure. 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.720 I think it was partly that, but he was also like, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.120 also the things we cover they're so grim, they're kind 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.040 of scary, and I don't really like I don't really 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:59.400 want to be a part of it. And he's like, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.320 I'm sorry to do this, and I was like, all right, man, today, no, no, we're. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.640 He was essential about the rooftop setting for that kind. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.600 Of traumatic I think he wanted to just kind of 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.840 have like a picturesque background to just kind of you know, 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.440 but you know. And then I was like, all right, fine, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.840 I guess I'll figure out another host, and I walked 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.520 down the stairs, went back to my desk and I 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.760 actually sat next to Shane at the time, and I 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.200 was like, hey, Brent just quit the show. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.480 I'm looking for a co host. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.840 And there's just like a long, pregnant pause and I 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.000 was like, you think you think you. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:31.480 Could do it? 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.400 And he was like yeah, And I was like, well, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.319 you know, I need you to commit because this might 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.920 become like a thing we do for a couple of 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.840 years and here we are, like eight years later, and 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.480 he was like yeah, and then he looked over in 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.680 his Google calendar and he scrolled like a couple months 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:45.480 and he was like, I. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.280 Got nothing Tuesday. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.920 Yeah, sure, And I was like, all right, we'll shoot tomorrow. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:50.760 And that was it. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.240 And I was eight years ago. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.200 And was that the thing that you proposed at that moment? 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.040 Was that essentially what you're what you're doing? 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.840 Then? Yeah? It was so at the time it was buzzy. 0:08:59.920 --> 0:09:01.960 The Solve was a true crime show but also a 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.600 ghost hunting show, right, and ghost hunting actually had not started, 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.200 so technically. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.320 It was just and. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.400 They were doing They've been doing their thing for quite 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.080 some time, and we we are aware of them, and 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.000 they are aware of us. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.400 I guarantee I keep trying to get up Zach. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.439 Honestly, I keep trying to get a feud going with 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.520 Zach Baggins. But like, we did a show in Vegas 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.560 last year, a live screening and a Q and A, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.880 and I know he lives in Vegas, and I messaged him. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.200 I was like, hey, I really love your work, and 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.520 you know, if you if you if you're around and 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.120 want to pop into the show and he was like, Oh, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.719 I'm shooting. I was like, it'd be fun to get 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.640 a fake feud going. He was like, oh, I'm gonna 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:40.840 be shooting, but I would love to. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.000 And I was like, I think if people looked at 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.439 a picture of you and then a picture of Zach Baggins, 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.600 he's who would be the one to start a feud. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.400 I think everybody would not you because generally my role 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.240 at dumb Line is to not pick feuds with people 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.800 whose biceps are the size of my head. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:58.640 I would like to take this opportunity to do a 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.040 challenge to z Actor to see what. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.800 We'll keep putting it out there. You Zach, if you 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.040 want to get a feud going, you know we can. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.800 We will tabletop him or something, two of us versus 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:10.280 one of him. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:11.000 Yeah. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.840 I offered on Twitter to go on a thing with them, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:14.840 and he went, you want to? 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.840 I said, I never heard from him again. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.280 Oh, I'm sure he probably look goes to is very busy. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.440 He probably just forgot I bet if you get back 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:23.280 at him, you. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.880 Know, he's spending a lot of times in these houses. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.520 He's going, He's going to Iowa, problem going the Balls 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:30.480 of Kentucky right. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:34.200 So let's let's get into it. So the premises, and 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.880 I'm and I'm assuming because I'm not as dated as 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:42.360 I sometimes come off, but right, you basically are are 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.520 up for the possibility of these being there's something being there, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.280 and and Shane, you're pretty legitimately just not a believer 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.199 in this stuff. And and so that is the premise. 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.640 So in any given episode, for people that haven't seen it, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.320 you go to a haunted site, you want to just 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:00.560 run down an on the form. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.560 Yeah, I know, I mean you pretty much nailed it 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.560 in a nutshell, I believe in this stuff. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.240 I'm not even up for the possibility. I legitimately do believe. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:09.800 Gotcha tell him about the toothpaste. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.600 I'll tell you my Joker origin story. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.840 I was on the Queen Mary when I was a teenager, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.400 and I actually didn't believe in this stuff. I was 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.800 a skeptic and so I like, any excuse my French 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:22.920 shying d bag stick kept it when I would go 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.200 on the boat and I was being kind of an 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.680 ass and I was like shouting out for you know, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.360 something to come after me, and nothing was happening. And 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.400 then eventually throughout the night, small things started to happen 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:33.920 like I got poked in the back. I heard like 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.280 a little girl laughing. And then the sink in my 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.040 room turned on by itself, and it was one of 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.559 those like twist knob sinks, not like you know. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.720 An automatic sink or something like that. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.600 And then later, when I was brushing my teeth, my 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.760 toothpaste was sitting on this shelf and I was sitting 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:51.880 on top of a ziploc bag, and then the bag 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.520 moved and then the toothpaste got kind of flung off 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.200 the shelf. He tends to believe that it was just 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.880 flung is perhaps a little bit of a hyperbole. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.360 Well, the different The thing is Ryan told this story 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.760 for several years, and the story was always that the 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.080 toothpaste flew off the shelf across the room. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.240 I don't know, it flew across the room. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.880 And then some long he was like, actually found the 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.720 v H the cam quarder tape of the toothpaste incident, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.679 and we watched it and it's really just. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:24.480 Wait, you were running a cam corderaste brush your teeth 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:25.160 to make sure you did it right. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.439 Well brushes his teeth, I mean beautiful, But I mean 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:29.920 my dad is a dentist, So. 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.400 I call us when you're ready to brush. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.880 We want to for me to do without assistance. But uh, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.960 I will say that I don't know if I said 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.880 it got flung across the room it hit the wall. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.360 I did hit the wall. I just said it got flung, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.719 which if you watched the film like that just kind 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.000 of goes like goes like this, and it does get flung. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.160 Flung is you know, up for interpretation. Could be flung 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.680 a foot, it could be flung an inch, whatever the case. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.160 It was enough to turn him from a skeptic and 0:12:58.440 --> 0:12:59.120 into a believer. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.800 And that's it's it's really fascinating because we've been doing 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.839 this now eight years and we a lot of time 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.280 when we meet people will be like, well, obviously, like 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.480 you guys got to start, like like Shane, you probably. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:12.920 Believe a little more. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.440 And Ryan, you know, uh, And we really haven't waivered, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.640 which is because we've all gone to this, We've gone 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.440 to the same places, we've witnessed the same things. But 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.040 Ryan is even more steeped as a believer. And I'm 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.559 just I continue to just be like, it's. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:32.600 Not the miracle in watching you guys, and it really 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.520 is fantastic because it is so very real and I 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.200 understand both sides. Is you know, I was watching the Alcatraz. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:41.200 I think it is the Alcatraz. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:44.959 You know you're you're going down the death shoot or 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:46.200 the body shoot. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:50.160 I think you're thinking of Waverley Hills and you know. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.320 You went first and you're skipping to my load down 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:55.719 this thing. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:56.439 I have a great time. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.120 He's like he couldn't be not a care in the world, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.240 calling out. The spirit's going, yeah, come on, come come 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.080 at me, come on, come at me, and just you know, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.559 it is water off a duck's back and then it 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.240 goes down and you're like. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:12.760 Kind of me. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.600 If nothing was there. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.920 I'd go I would make it happen there somehow I 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.720 would manifest something. And you go down and it's and 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.240 it's like a really upsetting experience for you. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.840 Yes, two things back to back, Josh. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.240 That's the authenticity of it, the sincerity of it. So 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.440 talk about the format, because the format starts out with 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.040 a call, with a call usually to say from somebody 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.360 who wants you to go somewhere. Correct. 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:37.920 Yeah, So we reach out to our audience and we say, hey, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.960 we are looking for a place to go investigate and 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.920 then some people will say, oh, go to Waverley Hill 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.600 Sanatorium and then we'll go, okay, does anybody have evidence 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.840 from Waverley Hill Sanatorium and then they will send in 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.960 evidence and then we will go and try and recreate 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.840 that evidence at the site. But the kick is that 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.440 I believe in Shane doesn't believe in this. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.720 Okay, So so you stayed overnight on the Queen Man. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:56.280 We did. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.960 We actually were the people who broke in that horrible 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.080 room there. I think go call like Pete three four 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.040 here or something like that. They didn't let people stay 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.800 in there, and then they opened it up for us 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.240 and we thought it was going to be like a room. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.920 Can we get in there? It's just a concrete like slab. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.760 We literally rolled down our sleeping bags next to rat hair. 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.920 It was really crazy. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.320 Never Shane have gone to a place we went. This 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:20.800 was genuinely freaked me out. 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:26.360 There's been I think places the first time we did 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.200 because we didn't always do. Now it's sort of a 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:30.880 staple at the end of our episodes we go on 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:31.960 our solo walks. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.360 Yeah, oh man. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.320 The first time we did that, which was it at 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.720 Penhurst Asylum, which is just this very old, disgusting asylum 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.720 that I think is now demolished. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:42.840 Thank god, dude. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.160 One of the grossest buildings I've ever been in. Awful place, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.880 just smeared, which like literally, yeah it was. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:48.920 It was bad news. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.320 The first time we did a solo there, I remember 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.720 being like, I don't believe in ghosts, but you know, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:16:00.280 it's just staring down this empty hallway in this dilapidated building, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:01.840 very creepy. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.760 The first believe in rats. I believe, I believe in tenness. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:07.640 I believe in the brown red Cluses. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.200 So you know that that first solo I remember being like, well, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.280 I'm a little unnerved right now. And ever since then, 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.760 Whool is a cucumber truly, really, I think the only 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.200 other places that have like you know, there's there's just 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.920 places that bum you out a little bit. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.200 Yeah, it's like a lot of places you go to 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:24.720 and they're. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:28.720 Like, oh, there was a woman here and maybe she 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.760 you know, it's always like these these lower like the 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.560 their tall tails women in Whiting. You go to another 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.040 place and they're like, people were definitely murdered here, and 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.600 you're like, okay, well. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.400 That's yeah, that's good. So we talk about the tech 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.640 because the tech makes me laugh. If you have watched 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.000 an episode, by the way, you get like three million 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.760 average an episode viewers an episode. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.600 We're lucky that people actually watch our bulls. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.520 A lot of people watch. But the tech, you guys 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.120 are very specific about the old text. Not we got 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.240 the newest deck, but you always get the newest tech. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.200 The thing that you hold up and it can see 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.440 connect the dots to a person making Yes, that's one 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:04.040 of my favorites. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.320 Yeah, what is talk about that it's from an Xbox. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.640 Oh secret. 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.080 Now here's the thing though, I actually like tools that 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.399 aren't device specifically for ghost hunting. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.240 They actually have a real world purpose. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:21.000 Like this was a camera used for Xbox to detect motion, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.919 so but it was also used for detecting motion in 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.760 the dark essentially because it uses IR dots and it 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.040 forms a grid and anything that I guess like displaces 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.120 that grid then forms the body like. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.639 The skeleton that a human body. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.280 So that is it's already proven to work on humans 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:39.840 because it had to be because it was you know, 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.600 pushed out by a massive thing like Xbox. So then 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.359 retrofitting that to use it for ghost hunting, to point 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.600 it into the dark, into the void, and maybe there's 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:48.560 a body that pops up. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.840