Speaker 1: Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in
Speaker 1: partnership with I Heart Radio. They're specific, crimes may vary,
Speaker 1: but con artists have this one thing in common, the
Speaker 1: power of persuasion, and that power of persuasion allows them
Speaker 1: to take advantage of the rest of us. They're charismatic
Speaker 1: and intelligent, with good memories and the skills to manipulate others.
Speaker 1: They blend in, and they're diligent at appearing to be
Speaker 1: professional and successful. But psychologists have identified that successful con
Speaker 1: artists exhibit three similar and negative characteristics, one psychopathy to narcissism,
Speaker 1: and three machiavellianism. Together, they all share malevolent features like
Speaker 1: entitled self importance, strategic exploitation and deceit, and a general
Speaker 1: callousness and cynicism. Experts refer to these socially aversive traits
Speaker 1: as dark personality traits and believe that they are would
Speaker 1: allow con artists to scam people without feeling remorse or
Speaker 1: guilt about their actions. According to Psychology Today, to a
Speaker 1: person with Machiavellian traits, if you fell for their scam,
Speaker 1: you deserved it. Another commonality, ego, the act of the
Speaker 1: swindle can make a con artist feel even more confident
Speaker 1: in themselves and their skills, which brings us to how
Speaker 1: and why the terms confidence artist and confidence game ever,
Speaker 1: we're coined. So we're going to meet a man named
Speaker 1: William Thompson, the man who inspired these expressions. Welcome to Criminalia.
Speaker 1: I'm Maria Tremarqui, and I'm Holly Fry. William Thompson certainly
Speaker 1: was not the first person involved in the con game.
Speaker 1: We can assume that people have been tricking and cheating
Speaker 1: each other, likely since they're were people to trick and cheat.
Speaker 1: We know from the historical record that serial counterfeiter and
Speaker 1: confidence man William Chaloner was proven guilty by Sir Isaac
Speaker 1: Newton in the seventeenth century. According to the posthumous biography
Speaker 1: of Challenger, written by Goodsman read A. Vivis and published
Speaker 1: in sixte Challenger had quote the best knack at tongue pudding,
Speaker 1: and he established himself as a quack doctor and soothsayer
Speaker 1: sounds legit. In the eighteenth century, Jean de Valois Saint
Speaker 1: Remy was chief conspirator in what became known as the
Speaker 1: Affair of the Diamond Necklace and act. Certainly, along with
Speaker 1: other factors that contributed to the start of the French Revolution,
Speaker 1: But in the eyes of criminal historians and newspaper archives,
Speaker 1: William is the reason that the term confidence man came about.
Speaker 1: William Thompson operated in New York City during the eighteen forties.
Speaker 1: He often used aliases when introducing himself to his unsuspecting victims,
Speaker 1: including the names Samuel Thompson, James Thompson, Samuel Thomas, Samuel Powell,
Speaker 1: Samuel Williams, William Evans, Samuel Willis, William Davis, and William Brown.
Speaker 1: He was always smartly dressed, and he was always polite.
Speaker 1: He chose upper class marks and approached them with an
Speaker 1: incredibly simple scam. He would strike up conversation with a person,
Speaker 1: and after a little bit of chit chat, when he
Speaker 1: was sure he had gained their trust, he would ask
Speaker 1: if they were confident enough in him to lend him
Speaker 1: their watch just still tomorrow. Yes, he really did ask
Speaker 1: strangers to give their watches to him, and many did.
Speaker 1: We read one slight variance in his scam among the
Speaker 1: reports of his confidence career. He may or may not
Speaker 1: have pretended to know his mark as he began conversation
Speaker 1: with them, catching them off guard and capitalizing on our
Speaker 1: human desire to avoid awkwardness. It was best, especially on
Speaker 1: the upper class at the time, to avoid the faux
Speaker 1: pall of not remembering someone. We don't know a whole
Speaker 1: lot about William's life history. He just pops up in
Speaker 1: the historical record when he starts getting noticed, which, as
Speaker 1: you might imagine, is not good for business. Right and
Speaker 1: William played this same con until he was spotted by
Speaker 1: a previous mark who just happened to pass him on
Speaker 1: the street. It's a little early, but before we talk
Speaker 1: about that fateful day, we're going to take a break
Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor, and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll tell you all about how William's scam caught up
Speaker 1: to him. Welcome back to Criminalia. Allow us to introduce
Speaker 1: you to Thomas McDonald, the man who outed William Thompson's
Speaker 1: confidence game. Williams New York City con game came to
Speaker 1: a halt when he was spotted by a previous mark,
Speaker 1: a Mr. Thomas McDonald of to seventy Madison Street. William
Speaker 1: had on May twelve nine run his con on McDonald,
Speaker 1: taking from him a gold lover watch said to be
Speaker 1: valued at a hundred and ten dollars, and today that's
Speaker 1: equivalent to about four thousand dollars. As luck would have it.
Speaker 1: About two months later, McDonald, while walking along Liberty Street,
Speaker 1: passed by this very same man who had stolen his watch,
Speaker 1: our William Thompson. As reported in the local city papers,
Speaker 1: McDonald alerted the police and officers Swazie of the City
Speaker 1: Police was nearby at the time. William was taken into custody,
Speaker 1: but not easily. He first refused, then put up what
Speaker 1: was reported in newspapers as a quote desperate fight before
Speaker 1: being cuffed. When The New York Herald published a brief
Speaker 1: article about William's arrest the police Intelligence section on July nine,
Speaker 1: the headline read quote arrest of the confidence Man. And
Speaker 1: it's this report that is generally considered the first time
Speaker 1: that wording had ever been used. Later, it went on
Speaker 1: to become the catch all term con man, and today,
Speaker 1: along with confidence artist or con artist, it continues to
Speaker 1: be used to describe fraudsters. The New York Herald's article
Speaker 1: described William and his con as so quote for the
Speaker 1: last few months, a man has been traveling about the
Speaker 1: city known as the confidence man. That is, he would
Speaker 1: go up to a perfect stranger in the street, and,
Speaker 1: being a man of genteel appearance, would easily command an interview.
Speaker 1: Upon this interview, he would say, after some little conversation,
Speaker 1: have you confidence in me to trust me with your
Speaker 1: watch until tomorrow. The stranger at this novel request, supposing
Speaker 1: him to be some old acquaintance, not at the moment
Speaker 1: record did, allows him to take the watch, thus placing
Speaker 1: confidence in the honesty of the stranger who walks off laughing,
Speaker 1: and the other, supposing it to be a joke, allows
Speaker 1: him so to do. In this way, many have been duped.
Speaker 1: Many con artists face legal consequences on charges of fraud,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it's theft. The difference can be subtle. Fraud
Speaker 1: is when one party knowingly misrepresents the truth or knowingly
Speaker 1: conceals material facts in order to deprive someone of a
Speaker 1: possession or right, whereas theft would be outright taking something
Speaker 1: from that person. It can be difficult to prosecute con
Speaker 1: artists criminally because they tow the line between what is
Speaker 1: unethical and what is actually illegal. A good con artist
Speaker 1: can make just about anything sound reasonable, at least in
Speaker 1: the moment. William was seen before a Justice McGrath, who
Speaker 1: local papers reported recognized him as a prior offender. One
Speaker 1: story claimed that William had spent time incarcerated at Sing Sing,
Speaker 1: but we're unable to verify that as a fact. Justice
Speaker 1: McGrath committed William to prison until a further hearing could
Speaker 1: be held, and the New York Herald called on anyone
Speaker 1: who had been taken advantage of or defrauded by him
Speaker 1: to come forward and testify against him. He was sentenced
Speaker 1: for theft to prison time in the Tombs, officially named
Speaker 1: the Manhattan Detention Complex. The first incarnation of the Tombs,
Speaker 1: which opened in eighteen forty in Lower Manhattan at one
Speaker 1: White Street, was called the Halls of Justice, and it
Speaker 1: was and it was constructed in the image of an
Speaker 1: ancient Egyptian mausolea. About five months after it was built,
Speaker 1: and we should clarify, built on a pond that had
Speaker 1: been filled in with wood pilings, it began, unsurprisingly to
Speaker 1: sink when will It was incarcerated there. It was wet,
Speaker 1: dark and dank. That building was demolished in and it
Speaker 1: was replaced with a new City jail complex. But there
Speaker 1: continues to be historical debate over whether the Tomb's got
Speaker 1: its nickname because it resembled an ancient burial chamber or
Speaker 1: because just being there felt like being in a tumbe.
Speaker 1: The New York Herald continued to cover Williams story and
Speaker 1: continued to use the new nickname they had coined for him.
Speaker 1: A write up that appeared shortly after his arrest notice
Speaker 1: read quote, during the last week or ten days, the
Speaker 1: public have been entertained by the police reporters with several
Speaker 1: amusing descriptions of the transactions of a certain financial genius
Speaker 1: who rejoices in the sobriquet of the Confidence Man. It
Speaker 1: appears that the personage who has earned this euphonious and
Speaker 1: winning designation has been in the habit of exercising his
Speaker 1: powers and moral suasion to an extent almost equal to
Speaker 1: that attained by Father Matthew himself. The Father Matthew in
Speaker 1: that quote was a well known temperance preacher in the
Speaker 1: mid nineteenth century, dark and dank accommodations aside. Newly crowned
Speaker 1: as the Confidence Man, William really enjoyed his celebrity, and
Speaker 1: he would schedule interviews with the press from his cell
Speaker 1: inside the tombs. One reporter later described his visit as
Speaker 1: so he was led to William cell by quote to
Speaker 1: country looking individuals. When they arrived at the landing in
Speaker 1: the second tier, they were accosted by our hero, who
Speaker 1: sat in the keeper's chair. In this way, gentlemen, have
Speaker 1: either of you a cigar? I am the confidence Man.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break for a word from
Speaker 1: our sponsor, and when we return, we will talk about
Speaker 1: the old saying you can't cheat an honest man, and
Speaker 1: how that's actually probably not true at all. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to criminalia. Not all cons are equal, and William Thompson
Speaker 1: was really just small time. Let's talk about different types
Speaker 1: of cons and who you can and can't trust. Karen
Speaker 1: halton In, professor of History and American Studies and Ethnicity
Speaker 1: at the University of Southern California and the author of
Speaker 1: the book Confidence Men and Painted Women, a Study of
Speaker 1: middle class culture in America eighteen eighteen seventy, notes that
Speaker 1: New York City at the time William was active, was
Speaker 1: a growing urban society, and there was an increase in wealth,
Speaker 1: especially what she calls movable wealth such as paper, currency
Speaker 1: or jewelry. Those kinds of conditions made scams easier for
Speaker 1: opportunistic con artists like William. In fact, according to Halton,
Speaker 1: in New York police estimated during the eighteen sixties, so
Speaker 1: just a decade or so after William was arrested and
Speaker 1: sentenced to the Tombs, that one out of ten professional
Speaker 1: criminals in the city was a confidence man, and they
Speaker 1: didn't all resemble William. James Gordon Bennett, considered the William
Speaker 1: Randolph Hurst of the Antebellum era in America, was the
Speaker 1: publisher of the New York Herald at the time of
Speaker 1: William's arrest. In his position, Bennett editorialized about the people
Speaker 1: he considered to be society's true confidence men. And it
Speaker 1: was not William or even people like William. William he
Speaker 1: called a petty swindler. It was, he wrote, quote, those
Speaker 1: palazzos of the rich. Quote, with all their costly furniture
Speaker 1: and all their splendid equipages, have been the product of
Speaker 1: the same genius in their proprietors, which made the confidence
Speaker 1: man immortal and a prisoner at the Tombs. His genius
Speaker 1: has been employed on a small scale. There's has been
Speaker 1: employed in Wall Street long life to the real confidence man,
Speaker 1: the confidence man of Wall Street, the Confident Man of
Speaker 1: the Palace Uptown. And yes, Williams scams were small cons.
Speaker 1: He was a small time criminal, or what was called
Speaker 1: a peanut grifter, but he became notorious around New York City,
Speaker 1: and eventually his story was told across the country. William
Speaker 1: and his case, it said, we're likely to have been
Speaker 1: the inspiration for the protagonist in Herman Melville's novel The
Speaker 1: Confidence Man His Masquerade, which was published on April Fool's
Speaker 1: Day in eighteen fifty seven. The story takes place on
Speaker 1: a Mississippi riverboat called the Fidel, and the premise centers
Speaker 1: around a con artist who, using a variety of disguises
Speaker 1: and fake identities, attempts to scam a diverse group of
Speaker 1: steamboat passengers. One theme in the novel is the relationship
Speaker 1: between the con artists and their mark, and that the
Speaker 1: confidence game needs both the greed of the con artist
Speaker 1: and the vanity of the mark for the swindle to work.
Speaker 1: Melville also wonders in his writing, aside from opportunism and
Speaker 1: the chance to make some quick cash, what actually motivates
Speaker 1: a swindler. As the narrator in the novel shares with
Speaker 1: us quote was the man a trickster. It must be
Speaker 1: more for love than for lucre two or three dirty
Speaker 1: dollars the motive to so many whiles. So was it
Speaker 1: the act of the con or the stolen goods that
Speaker 1: really motivated those in the game, or was it both?
Speaker 1: Some argue the old adage quote you can't cheat an
Speaker 1: honest man. They argue that con artists should be compared
Speaker 1: to the familiar Robin Hood character, turning a con into
Speaker 1: sort of a noble grift, cheating the greedy out of
Speaker 1: their money, as only those who are greedy would be
Speaker 1: willing to skirt the law for the promise of something
Speaker 1: like money, power, you name it. The types of confidence
Speaker 1: tricks are limitless, but there are two primary categories that
Speaker 1: they fall into, short cons and long cons. Three card Monty,
Speaker 1: for instance, is a well known street hustle, and it's
Speaker 1: a short con. It's success us is dependent on the
Speaker 1: mark wanting to win a little quick cash on a gamble,
Speaker 1: but a long con refers to a more complex, planned con,
Speaker 1: such as in a Ponzi or a pyramid scheme. In
Speaker 1: real life, it's Charles Ponzi who's considered the best and
Speaker 1: biggest of the convent in Hollywood. We all know Robert
Speaker 1: Redford and Paul Newman's characters in The Sting, Michael Caine
Speaker 1: and Steve Martin, and dirty rotten scoundrels Kevin Spacey in
Speaker 1: The Usual Suspects. The fictional and nonfictional lists of swindlers
Speaker 1: are long, and in today's news we tend to hear
Speaker 1: the stories of the long cons, not those quick watch
Speaker 1: thefts with modern con artists like would be socialite and
Speaker 1: a Delvi whose real name is Amasaurkin, Elizabeth Holmes and
Speaker 1: her fake theorised blood testing machine, and Simone Leviev. The
Speaker 1: tinder swindler Bernie made Off is a familiar name. Sylvia Brown,
Speaker 1: Robert Hendy, Freegard. Whether we talk about them in a
Speaker 1: sympathetic light or not, their antics always fascinating and grab
Speaker 1: our attention. An introduction to her book Confident Women, Swindlers,
Speaker 1: Grifters and shape Shifters of the Feminine Persuasion, author Tory
Speaker 1: Telford writes, quote, the fact that we like con artists
Speaker 1: so much is probably the greatest con of all time.
Speaker 1: They prey on us all, yet we're still fascinated by
Speaker 1: their exploits. Experts believe it's the cleverness of a con
Speaker 1: artist that often makes them appear sympathetic to the rest
Speaker 1: of us even after the deceit has been revealed. How
Speaker 1: many people fell for the scam, We wonder how exactly
Speaker 1: did they pull it off? What happens when they get caught,
Speaker 1: what happens if they don't get caught. Their stories carry
Speaker 1: a natural drama that we just can't resist. Maria Knakova,
Speaker 1: author of The Confidence Game, The Psychology of the Con
Speaker 1: and Why We Fall for It every Time, said in
Speaker 1: an interview with BBC Culture that though humans have had
Speaker 1: a long fascination with con artists, quote, the explosion of
Speaker 1: social media has made conning easier. We are better targets
Speaker 1: and con artists can craft better stories and has given
Speaker 1: cons increased visibility. She continued, quote, It's easy to get
Speaker 1: wrapped up in the glamour of the con itself. Can
Speaker 1: you believe she was able to pull that off? We
Speaker 1: begin to tow the line between telling a story of
Speaker 1: deception to admiring the person who was responsible. So, while
Speaker 1: we may be inclined to think con artists should be untrustworthy,
Speaker 1: their particular talent is actually the ability to gain the
Speaker 1: trust of their marks exactly as William Thompson did. They
Speaker 1: exploit human desires for money, health, happiness, even the desire
Speaker 1: to help others can be exploited, and this is how
Speaker 1: William operated. Often these crimes go unreported by victims because
Speaker 1: mainly because of two things, One our embarrassment by our
Speaker 1: own complicity in an activity of dubious or criminal nature,
Speaker 1: and two our embarrassment of having fallen for the con
Speaker 1: in the first place. The prospect of something for nothing
Speaker 1: or very little proves again and again to be so
Speaker 1: hard for humans to resist. So who do you trust, Well, Maria,
Speaker 1: you can trust me that this week's scamp sauce is delicious.
Speaker 1: It's very deserty this time. So if you were hoping
Speaker 1: for a citrus whiskey situation, that's not what you're getting.
Speaker 1: I lured you and switched it out. So one thing
Speaker 1: I want to talk about, though, is actually a little
Speaker 1: instruction if you don't already know it, and how to
Speaker 1: make your own vanilla liqure, because that's going to be
Speaker 1: part of this one. Making your own liqueurs is very
Speaker 1: very easy. Usually it's just a combination of whatever your
Speaker 1: flavoring is, some sugar, some other alcohol, and then you
Speaker 1: let it mix and hang out together. So in this case,
Speaker 1: here's how you make vanilla liqueur, which I know I
Speaker 1: have used things like Liqueur forty three in the show before.
Speaker 1: I'm going to use a different vanilla liqueur in this one.
Speaker 1: But you can make your own. And what's cool is
Speaker 1: you can spice them as well and make like your
Speaker 1: signature vanilla liquor. And then all your friends will be like,
Speaker 1: I had to drink at Maria's house and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: It tasted like vanilla and cardamom, and you'll be like,
Speaker 1: mm hmmm. So here is how we're basically gonna make it.
Speaker 1: It starts with simple syrup and a vanilla bean. You're
Speaker 1: gonna put a cup of water and two cups of
Speaker 1: sugar in a saucepan. Let them warm up, get that
Speaker 1: sugar dissolved. In the meantime, you will take a vanilla bean,
Speaker 1: split it in half, and just put it in a
Speaker 1: a mason jar. You don't have to scrape it, you
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything with it. Just make your
Speaker 1: simple syrup, and then you're gonna pour that simple syrup
Speaker 1: when it's warm. Be careful, obviously, hot things right over
Speaker 1: the vanilla bean into the jar, seal it and let
Speaker 1: it sit. I like to let that go for a while.
Speaker 1: I like to let it steep like overnight. Some people
Speaker 1: will do six or eight hours. Taste, taste it and
Speaker 1: see how it is, and then you're going to strain
Speaker 1: off that vanilla bean in any of the little inside
Speaker 1: stuff that's come out. So that's why you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about doing anything particularly fancy with that. You'll
Speaker 1: strain that out. And then if you just want vanilla syrup,
Speaker 1: you're done. It's amazing and you can use it in
Speaker 1: drinks or on ice cream, or just buy the spoonful
Speaker 1: to make it liqueur with it. This is when I like.
Speaker 1: You can try it with different kinds of spirits to
Speaker 1: start with. But a cup of vodka, a cup of brandy,
Speaker 1: and then a half cup of vanilla syrup that you've made.
Speaker 1: This makes a delicious vanilla liqure. And you can throw
Speaker 1: in cinnamon if you want. You could throw in a
Speaker 1: little bit of clove. All will be careful. Clove can overwhelm.
Speaker 1: You can throw in lavender if you want to flooral
Speaker 1: vanilla licure. You can literally just play with this thing.
Speaker 1: This is a choose your own adventure. Now that you
Speaker 1: have your vanilla cure and name, whether you made it yourself,
Speaker 1: where you purchased it, it's time to make tongue pudding.
Speaker 1: That was just there's no way that wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be the drink, and so I was, of course thinking
Speaker 1: of drinks that would be creamy, and also I wanted
Speaker 1: it to ideally have a little bit of a golden color,
Speaker 1: which is to reference the gold Watch situation, which is
Speaker 1: why we're doing vanilla liquor. Mine came out kind of
Speaker 1: more big, I'll be honest. This is also a flip.
Speaker 1: So if you're one of those people that doesn't like
Speaker 1: the egg drinks, I'm sorry. But if you are, get ready,
Speaker 1: because this business is okay. So one whole egg into
Speaker 1: your tin, and then it's super easy because it's a
Speaker 1: three part one ounce of each of these, one ounce
Speaker 1: of gin, like a good, very neutral gin. I like
Speaker 1: to have a gin that's not too piny, one ounce
Speaker 1: of your vanilla liquor, and one ounce of Irish cream.
Speaker 1: Throw in a dash of bitters with that eye shake
Speaker 1: it so that means you're not putting ice in your tin.
Speaker 1: Initially you are dry shaking it to get that egg
Speaker 1: super frothy, super blended with everything else you want it
Speaker 1: basically to be a super smooth situation. And then throw
Speaker 1: your ice in there and shake it up. Then you
Speaker 1: will strain it double strain it, meaning you use your
Speaker 1: hawthorn strainer or whatever you normally use, pour it through
Speaker 1: a mesh strainer as you're doing it into your ideally
Speaker 1: pre chilled glass. I like a Nick and Nora or
Speaker 1: a coope for this one. You can also add bitters
Speaker 1: to it before you do that second shake. Delicious, and
Speaker 1: then you have a thing that's a little bit eggnoggy
Speaker 1: but also has that Irish cream flavor which has some
Speaker 1: whiskey notes to it, the vanilla flavor. It's delicious. It's
Speaker 1: tongue putting to make the mocktail. There's more recipe doings
Speaker 1: to do Irish cream. You can buy Irish cream flavored syrup,
Speaker 1: add that to some cream and you're ready to roll.
Speaker 1: You can just use that in your thing. But if
Speaker 1: you want to make homemade Irish cream, and I will
Speaker 1: also tell you how to make your own homemade alcoholic
Speaker 1: Irish cream if you want. But this base recipe is
Speaker 1: just to make a non alcoholic one delicious. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna take a can of condensed milk, a cup of
Speaker 1: heavy cream, a teaspoon of vanilla extract, a teaspoon of
Speaker 1: almond extract, one and a half tablespoons of chocolate syrup,
Speaker 1: and anywhere between a pinch and a teaspoon of instant
Speaker 1: coffee ground can be so good. It's so easy too,
Speaker 1: because you don't have to do any stovetop anything. You
Speaker 1: throw that business in a blender, you go to town
Speaker 1: and you have Irish cream. If you want to make
Speaker 1: the alcoholic version, throw in a cup and a half
Speaker 1: of Irish whiskey, and that's essentially what Irish cream is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people are always clocking when you
Speaker 1: drink Irish cream there's a chocolate note in it, but
Speaker 1: there is, so that's why there's That's why there's that
Speaker 1: chocolate in there. But like with the vanilla and the almond,
Speaker 1: it just tastes like this uni beautiful little like a
Speaker 1: cookie in a cream and alcohol or not. Like I said,
Speaker 1: use it without the whiskey. You can keep that in
Speaker 1: your fridge for like a couple of weeks. Usually once
Speaker 1: you blended all of that together. Depending keep an eye
Speaker 1: your milk products obviously, So there you have your fake
Speaker 1: Irish cream. For your mock tail, I would use a
Speaker 1: thin out version of the vanilla syrup, just so it's
Speaker 1: not quite as thick and heavy. Like literally, you can
Speaker 1: add a little bit of water to it, and then
Speaker 1: in lieu of the gin, I would do a camrameal
Speaker 1: tea and that makes a really really beautiful Oh this
Speaker 1: mocktail feels like a hug. There's something lovely about it.
Speaker 1: The thing is, when you start making things like liqueor
Speaker 1: on your own, you realize, oh, the sky's the limit.
Speaker 1: I could make a vanilla watermelon liqueur. I can make
Speaker 1: apple cinnamon liqueur or some sort of like coffee and
Speaker 1: other fruit. Oh, a banana coffee liqueur sounds really good.
Speaker 1: I might have to get a that. Um Maria made
Speaker 1: a face that said, no, it would not be gooding bananas.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I forget. I was like, what have
Speaker 1: you done to that's listen? I want banana and everything
Speaker 1: that I know. Sometimes the cheese stands alone. You can
Speaker 1: have them all. So that is the tongue pudding again.
Speaker 1: The base recipe is a whole egg and ounce of
Speaker 1: gin and ounce of Irish cream and ounce of vanilla liquor.
Speaker 1: I used Galiano, which has become my big favorite lately.
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, we're in no way sponsored by them.
Speaker 1: That's just a liqueur that I love. You can even
Speaker 1: start playing with this if you want to build your
Speaker 1: own adventure. You can use different liqueurs in lieu of
Speaker 1: the vanilla or the Irish cream. Start switching things out,
Speaker 1: get your own crazy flips going on. I love a flip. Also,
Speaker 1: obviously you can use fake egg white. If you want
Speaker 1: to do a vegan one. You can sub out any
Speaker 1: of your non dairies for any of these two. So again,
Speaker 1: it's all about playing. Because there's no such thing as cocktail.
Speaker 1: Jail makes something delicious that tastes good to you. I
Speaker 1: love to choose your own adventure cocktails always. That's what
Speaker 1: the home bar is for. Really, let's see what happens
Speaker 1: when this happens. If you know the basics of like
Speaker 1: how a drink should balance, the rest gets real fun.
Speaker 1: What else is real fun is spending this time with you,
Speaker 1: Maria and with our listeners. So we're very grateful that
Speaker 1: everybody has hung out with us to hear about William's story.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you will never be the victim of a con
Speaker 1: but we hope that you will hang out with us
Speaker 1: again next week, because we'll be right back here with
Speaker 1: another another con man story and another cocktail. Criminalia is
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