WEBVTT - 'May I Borrow Your Watch?': William Thompson, America's Original Confidence Man

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. They're specific, crimes may vary,

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<v Speaker 1>but con artists have this one thing in common, the

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<v Speaker 1>power of persuasion, and that power of persuasion allows them

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of the rest of us. They're charismatic

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<v Speaker 1>and intelligent, with good memories and the skills to manipulate others.

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<v Speaker 1>They blend in, and they're diligent at appearing to be

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<v Speaker 1>professional and successful. But psychologists have identified that successful con

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<v Speaker 1>artists exhibit three similar and negative characteristics, one psychopathy to narcissism,

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<v Speaker 1>and three machiavellianism. Together, they all share malevolent features like

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<v Speaker 1>entitled self importance, strategic exploitation and deceit, and a general

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<v Speaker 1>callousness and cynicism. Experts refer to these socially aversive traits

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<v Speaker 1>as dark personality traits and believe that they are would

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<v Speaker 1>allow con artists to scam people without feeling remorse or

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<v Speaker 1>guilt about their actions. According to Psychology Today, to a

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<v Speaker 1>person with Machiavellian traits, if you fell for their scam,

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<v Speaker 1>you deserved it. Another commonality, ego, the act of the

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<v Speaker 1>swindle can make a con artist feel even more confident

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<v Speaker 1>in themselves and their skills, which brings us to how

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<v Speaker 1>and why the terms confidence artist and confidence game ever,

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<v Speaker 1>we're coined. So we're going to meet a man named

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<v Speaker 1>William Thompson, the man who inspired these expressions. Welcome to Criminalia.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Maria Tremarqui, and I'm Holly Fry. William Thompson certainly

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<v Speaker 1>was not the first person involved in the con game.

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<v Speaker 1>We can assume that people have been tricking and cheating

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<v Speaker 1>each other, likely since they're were people to trick and cheat.

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<v Speaker 1>We know from the historical record that serial counterfeiter and

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<v Speaker 1>confidence man William Chaloner was proven guilty by Sir Isaac

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<v Speaker 1>Newton in the seventeenth century. According to the posthumous biography

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<v Speaker 1>of Challenger, written by Goodsman read A. Vivis and published

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<v Speaker 1>in sixte Challenger had quote the best knack at tongue pudding,

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<v Speaker 1>and he established himself as a quack doctor and soothsayer

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<v Speaker 1>sounds legit. In the eighteenth century, Jean de Valois Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Remy was chief conspirator in what became known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Affair of the Diamond Necklace and act. Certainly, along with

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<v Speaker 1>other factors that contributed to the start of the French Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>But in the eyes of criminal historians and newspaper archives,

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<v Speaker 1>William is the reason that the term confidence man came about.

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<v Speaker 1>William Thompson operated in New York City during the eighteen forties.

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<v Speaker 1>He often used aliases when introducing himself to his unsuspecting victims,

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<v Speaker 1>including the names Samuel Thompson, James Thompson, Samuel Thomas, Samuel Powell,

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel Williams, William Evans, Samuel Willis, William Davis, and William Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always smartly dressed, and he was always polite.

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<v Speaker 1>He chose upper class marks and approached them with an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly simple scam. He would strike up conversation with a person,

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<v Speaker 1>and after a little bit of chit chat, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was sure he had gained their trust, he would ask

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<v Speaker 1>if they were confident enough in him to lend him

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<v Speaker 1>their watch just still tomorrow. Yes, he really did ask

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<v Speaker 1>strangers to give their watches to him, and many did.

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<v Speaker 1>We read one slight variance in his scam among the

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<v Speaker 1>reports of his confidence career. He may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>have pretended to know his mark as he began conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with them, catching them off guard and capitalizing on our

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<v Speaker 1>human desire to avoid awkwardness. It was best, especially on

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<v Speaker 1>the upper class at the time, to avoid the faux

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<v Speaker 1>pall of not remembering someone. We don't know a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot about William's life history. He just pops up in

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<v Speaker 1>the historical record when he starts getting noticed, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>you might imagine, is not good for business. Right and

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<v Speaker 1>William played this same con until he was spotted by

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<v Speaker 1>a previous mark who just happened to pass him on

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<v Speaker 1>the street. It's a little early, but before we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that fateful day, we're going to take a break

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<v Speaker 1>for a word from our sponsor, and when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell you all about how William's scam caught up

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Welcome back to Criminalia. Allow us to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to Thomas McDonald, the man who outed William Thompson's

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<v Speaker 1>confidence game. Williams New York City con game came to

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<v Speaker 1>a halt when he was spotted by a previous mark,

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<v Speaker 1>a Mr. Thomas McDonald of to seventy Madison Street. William

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<v Speaker 1>had on May twelve nine run his con on McDonald,

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<v Speaker 1>taking from him a gold lover watch said to be

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<v Speaker 1>valued at a hundred and ten dollars, and today that's

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent to about four thousand dollars. As luck would have it.

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<v Speaker 1>About two months later, McDonald, while walking along Liberty Street,

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<v Speaker 1>passed by this very same man who had stolen his watch,

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<v Speaker 1>our William Thompson. As reported in the local city papers,

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald alerted the police and officers Swazie of the City

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<v Speaker 1>Police was nearby at the time. William was taken into custody,

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<v Speaker 1>but not easily. He first refused, then put up what

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<v Speaker 1>was reported in newspapers as a quote desperate fight before

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<v Speaker 1>being cuffed. When The New York Herald published a brief

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<v Speaker 1>article about William's arrest the police Intelligence section on July nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the headline read quote arrest of the confidence Man. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's this report that is generally considered the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that wording had ever been used. Later, it went on

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<v Speaker 1>to become the catch all term con man, and today,

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<v Speaker 1>along with confidence artist or con artist, it continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be used to describe fraudsters. The New York Herald's article

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<v Speaker 1>described William and his con as so quote for the

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<v Speaker 1>last few months, a man has been traveling about the

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<v Speaker 1>city known as the confidence man. That is, he would

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<v Speaker 1>go up to a perfect stranger in the street, and,

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<v Speaker 1>being a man of genteel appearance, would easily command an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Upon this interview, he would say, after some little conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>have you confidence in me to trust me with your

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<v Speaker 1>watch until tomorrow. The stranger at this novel request, supposing

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<v Speaker 1>him to be some old acquaintance, not at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>record did, allows him to take the watch, thus placing

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in the honesty of the stranger who walks off laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other, supposing it to be a joke, allows

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<v Speaker 1>him so to do. In this way, many have been duped.

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<v Speaker 1>Many con artists face legal consequences on charges of fraud,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it's theft. The difference can be subtle. Fraud

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<v Speaker 1>is when one party knowingly misrepresents the truth or knowingly

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<v Speaker 1>conceals material facts in order to deprive someone of a

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<v Speaker 1>possession or right, whereas theft would be outright taking something

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<v Speaker 1>from that person. It can be difficult to prosecute con

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<v Speaker 1>artists criminally because they tow the line between what is

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<v Speaker 1>unethical and what is actually illegal. A good con artist

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<v Speaker 1>can make just about anything sound reasonable, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. William was seen before a Justice McGrath, who

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<v Speaker 1>local papers reported recognized him as a prior offender. One

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<v Speaker 1>story claimed that William had spent time incarcerated at Sing Sing,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're unable to verify that as a fact. Justice

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<v Speaker 1>McGrath committed William to prison until a further hearing could

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<v Speaker 1>be held, and the New York Herald called on anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who had been taken advantage of or defrauded by him

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<v Speaker 1>to come forward and testify against him. He was sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>for theft to prison time in the Tombs, officially named

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<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan Detention Complex. The first incarnation of the Tombs,

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<v Speaker 1>which opened in eighteen forty in Lower Manhattan at one

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<v Speaker 1>White Street, was called the Halls of Justice, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was and it was constructed in the image of an

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Egyptian mausolea. About five months after it was built,

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<v Speaker 1>and we should clarify, built on a pond that had

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<v Speaker 1>been filled in with wood pilings, it began, unsurprisingly to

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<v Speaker 1>sink when will It was incarcerated there. It was wet,

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<v Speaker 1>dark and dank. That building was demolished in and it

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<v Speaker 1>was replaced with a new City jail complex. But there

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be historical debate over whether the Tomb's got

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<v Speaker 1>its nickname because it resembled an ancient burial chamber or

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<v Speaker 1>because just being there felt like being in a tumbe.

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Herald continued to cover Williams story and

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<v Speaker 1>continued to use the new nickname they had coined for him.

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<v Speaker 1>A write up that appeared shortly after his arrest notice

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<v Speaker 1>read quote, during the last week or ten days, the

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<v Speaker 1>public have been entertained by the police reporters with several

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<v Speaker 1>amusing descriptions of the transactions of a certain financial genius

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<v Speaker 1>who rejoices in the sobriquet of the Confidence Man. It

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<v Speaker 1>appears that the personage who has earned this euphonious and

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<v Speaker 1>winning designation has been in the habit of exercising his

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<v Speaker 1>powers and moral suasion to an extent almost equal to

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<v Speaker 1>that attained by Father Matthew himself. The Father Matthew in

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<v Speaker 1>that quote was a well known temperance preacher in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineteenth century, dark and dank accommodations aside. Newly crowned

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<v Speaker 1>as the Confidence Man, William really enjoyed his celebrity, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would schedule interviews with the press from his cell

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<v Speaker 1>inside the tombs. One reporter later described his visit as

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<v Speaker 1>so he was led to William cell by quote to

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<v Speaker 1>country looking individuals. When they arrived at the landing in

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<v Speaker 1>the second tier, they were accosted by our hero, who

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<v Speaker 1>sat in the keeper's chair. In this way, gentlemen, have

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<v Speaker 1>either of you a cigar? I am the confidence Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break for a word from

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor, and when we return, we will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the old saying you can't cheat an honest man, and

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<v Speaker 1>how that's actually probably not true at all. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to criminalia. Not all cons are equal, and William Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>was really just small time. Let's talk about different types

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<v Speaker 1>of cons and who you can and can't trust. Karen

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<v Speaker 1>halton In, professor of History and American Studies and Ethnicity

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Southern California and the author of

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<v Speaker 1>the book Confidence Men and Painted Women, a Study of

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<v Speaker 1>middle class culture in America eighteen eighteen seventy, notes that

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<v Speaker 1>New York City at the time William was active, was

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<v Speaker 1>a growing urban society, and there was an increase in wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>especially what she calls movable wealth such as paper, currency

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<v Speaker 1>or jewelry. Those kinds of conditions made scams easier for

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<v Speaker 1>opportunistic con artists like William. In fact, according to Halton,

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<v Speaker 1>in New York police estimated during the eighteen sixties, so

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<v Speaker 1>just a decade or so after William was arrested and

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to the Tombs, that one out of ten professional

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<v Speaker 1>criminals in the city was a confidence man, and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't all resemble William. James Gordon Bennett, considered the William

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<v Speaker 1>Randolph Hurst of the Antebellum era in America, was the

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<v Speaker 1>publisher of the New York Herald at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>William's arrest. In his position, Bennett editorialized about the people

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<v Speaker 1>he considered to be society's true confidence men. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was not William or even people like William. William he

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<v Speaker 1>called a petty swindler. It was, he wrote, quote, those

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<v Speaker 1>palazzos of the rich. Quote, with all their costly furniture

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<v Speaker 1>and all their splendid equipages, have been the product of

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<v Speaker 1>the same genius in their proprietors, which made the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>man immortal and a prisoner at the Tombs. His genius

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<v Speaker 1>has been employed on a small scale. There's has been

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<v Speaker 1>employed in Wall Street long life to the real confidence man,

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence man of Wall Street, the Confident Man of

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<v Speaker 1>the Palace Uptown. And yes, Williams scams were small cons.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a small time criminal, or what was called

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<v Speaker 1>a peanut grifter, but he became notorious around New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually his story was told across the country. William

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<v Speaker 1>and his case, it said, we're likely to have been

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<v Speaker 1>the inspiration for the protagonist in Herman Melville's novel The

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<v Speaker 1>Confidence Man His Masquerade, which was published on April Fool's

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<v Speaker 1>Day in eighteen fifty seven. The story takes place on

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<v Speaker 1>a Mississippi riverboat called the Fidel, and the premise centers

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<v Speaker 1>around a con artist who, using a variety of disguises

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<v Speaker 1>and fake identities, attempts to scam a diverse group of

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<v Speaker 1>steamboat passengers. One theme in the novel is the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between the con artists and their mark, and that the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence game needs both the greed of the con artist

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<v Speaker 1>and the vanity of the mark for the swindle to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Melville also wonders in his writing, aside from opportunism and

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to make some quick cash, what actually motivates

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<v Speaker 1>a swindler. As the narrator in the novel shares with

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<v Speaker 1>us quote was the man a trickster. It must be

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<v Speaker 1>more for love than for lucre two or three dirty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars the motive to so many whiles. So was it

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<v Speaker 1>the act of the con or the stolen goods that

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<v Speaker 1>really motivated those in the game, or was it both?

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<v Speaker 1>Some argue the old adage quote you can't cheat an

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<v Speaker 1>honest man. They argue that con artists should be compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the familiar Robin Hood character, turning a con into

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a noble grift, cheating the greedy out of

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<v Speaker 1>their money, as only those who are greedy would be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to skirt the law for the promise of something

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<v Speaker 1>like money, power, you name it. The types of confidence

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<v Speaker 1>tricks are limitless, but there are two primary categories that

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<v Speaker 1>they fall into, short cons and long cons. Three card Monty,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, is a well known street hustle, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a short con. It's success us is dependent on the

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<v Speaker 1>mark wanting to win a little quick cash on a gamble,

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<v Speaker 1>but a long con refers to a more complex, planned con,

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<v Speaker 1>such as in a Ponzi or a pyramid scheme. In

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<v Speaker 1>real life, it's Charles Ponzi who's considered the best and

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<v Speaker 1>biggest of the convent in Hollywood. We all know Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Redford and Paul Newman's characters in The Sting, Michael Caine

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<v Speaker 1>and Steve Martin, and dirty rotten scoundrels Kevin Spacey in

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<v Speaker 1>The Usual Suspects. The fictional and nonfictional lists of swindlers

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<v Speaker 1>are long, and in today's news we tend to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the stories of the long cons, not those quick watch

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<v Speaker 1>thefts with modern con artists like would be socialite and

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<v Speaker 1>a Delvi whose real name is Amasaurkin, Elizabeth Holmes and

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<v Speaker 1>her fake theorised blood testing machine, and Simone Leviev. The

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<v Speaker 1>tinder swindler Bernie made Off is a familiar name. Sylvia Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Hendy, Freegard. Whether we talk about them in a

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<v Speaker 1>sympathetic light or not, their antics always fascinating and grab

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<v Speaker 1>our attention. An introduction to her book Confident Women, Swindlers,

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<v Speaker 1>Grifters and shape Shifters of the Feminine Persuasion, author Tory

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<v Speaker 1>Telford writes, quote, the fact that we like con artists

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<v Speaker 1>so much is probably the greatest con of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>They prey on us all, yet we're still fascinated by

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<v Speaker 1>their exploits. Experts believe it's the cleverness of a con

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<v Speaker 1>artist that often makes them appear sympathetic to the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us even after the deceit has been revealed. How

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<v Speaker 1>many people fell for the scam, We wonder how exactly

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<v Speaker 1>did they pull it off? What happens when they get caught,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens if they don't get caught. Their stories carry

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<v Speaker 1>a natural drama that we just can't resist. Maria Knakova,

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<v Speaker 1>author of The Confidence Game, The Psychology of the Con

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<v Speaker 1>and Why We Fall for It every Time, said in

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<v Speaker 1>an interview with BBC Culture that though humans have had

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<v Speaker 1>a long fascination with con artists, quote, the explosion of

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<v Speaker 1>social media has made conning easier. We are better targets

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<v Speaker 1>and con artists can craft better stories and has given

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<v Speaker 1>cons increased visibility. She continued, quote, It's easy to get

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up in the glamour of the con itself. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe she was able to pull that off? We

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<v Speaker 1>begin to tow the line between telling a story of

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<v Speaker 1>deception to admiring the person who was responsible. So, while

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<v Speaker 1>we may be inclined to think con artists should be untrustworthy,

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<v Speaker 1>their particular talent is actually the ability to gain the

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<v Speaker 1>trust of their marks exactly as William Thompson did. They

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<v Speaker 1>exploit human desires for money, health, happiness, even the desire

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<v Speaker 1>to help others can be exploited, and this is how

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<v Speaker 1>William operated. Often these crimes go unreported by victims because

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<v Speaker 1>mainly because of two things, One our embarrassment by our

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<v Speaker 1>own complicity in an activity of dubious or criminal nature,

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<v Speaker 1>and two our embarrassment of having fallen for the con

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. The prospect of something for nothing

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<v Speaker 1>or very little proves again and again to be so

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<v Speaker 1>hard for humans to resist. So who do you trust, Well, Maria,

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<v Speaker 1>you can trust me that this week's scamp sauce is delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very deserty this time. So if you were hoping

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<v Speaker 1>for a citrus whiskey situation, that's not what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>I lured you and switched it out. So one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about, though, is actually a little

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<v Speaker 1>instruction if you don't already know it, and how to

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<v Speaker 1>make your own vanilla liqure, because that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of this one. Making your own liqueurs is very

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<v Speaker 1>very easy. Usually it's just a combination of whatever your

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<v Speaker 1>flavoring is, some sugar, some other alcohol, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>let it mix and hang out together. So in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>here's how you make vanilla liqueur, which I know I

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<v Speaker 1>have used things like Liqueur forty three in the show before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use a different vanilla liqueur in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can make your own. And what's cool is

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<v Speaker 1>you can spice them as well and make like your

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<v Speaker 1>signature vanilla liquor. And then all your friends will be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to drink at Maria's house and it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It tasted like vanilla and cardamom, and you'll be like,

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmmm. So here is how we're basically gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts with simple syrup and a vanilla bean. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put a cup of water and two cups of

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<v Speaker 1>sugar in a saucepan. Let them warm up, get that

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<v Speaker 1>sugar dissolved. In the meantime, you will take a vanilla bean,

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<v Speaker 1>split it in half, and just put it in a

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<v Speaker 1>a mason jar. You don't have to scrape it, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do anything with it. Just make your

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<v Speaker 1>simple syrup, and then you're gonna pour that simple syrup

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<v Speaker 1>when it's warm. Be careful, obviously, hot things right over

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<v Speaker 1>the vanilla bean into the jar, seal it and let

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<v Speaker 1>it sit. I like to let that go for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to let it steep like overnight. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>will do six or eight hours. Taste, taste it and

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<v Speaker 1>see how it is, and then you're going to strain

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<v Speaker 1>off that vanilla bean in any of the little inside

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's come out. So that's why you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about doing anything particularly fancy with that. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>strain that out. And then if you just want vanilla syrup,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done. It's amazing and you can use it in

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<v Speaker 1>drinks or on ice cream, or just buy the spoonful

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<v Speaker 1>to make it liqueur with it. This is when I like.

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<v Speaker 1>You can try it with different kinds of spirits to

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<v Speaker 1>start with. But a cup of vodka, a cup of brandy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a half cup of vanilla syrup that you've made.

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<v Speaker 1>This makes a delicious vanilla liqure. And you can throw

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<v Speaker 1>in cinnamon if you want. You could throw in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of clove. All will be careful. Clove can overwhelm.

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<v Speaker 1>You can throw in lavender if you want to flooral

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<v Speaker 1>vanilla licure. You can literally just play with this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a choose your own adventure. Now that you

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<v Speaker 1>have your vanilla cure and name, whether you made it yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>where you purchased it, it's time to make tongue pudding.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just there's no way that wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the drink, and so I was, of course thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of drinks that would be creamy, and also I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to ideally have a little bit of a golden color,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to reference the gold Watch situation, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why we're doing vanilla liquor. Mine came out kind of

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<v Speaker 1>more big, I'll be honest. This is also a flip.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're one of those people that doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the egg drinks, I'm sorry. But if you are, get ready,

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<v Speaker 1>because this business is okay. So one whole egg into

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<v Speaker 1>your tin, and then it's super easy because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>three part one ounce of each of these, one ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of gin, like a good, very neutral gin. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to have a gin that's not too piny, one ounce

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<v Speaker 1>of your vanilla liquor, and one ounce of Irish cream.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw in a dash of bitters with that eye shake

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<v Speaker 1>it so that means you're not putting ice in your tin.

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<v Speaker 1>Initially you are dry shaking it to get that egg

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<v Speaker 1>super frothy, super blended with everything else you want it

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<v Speaker 1>basically to be a super smooth situation. And then throw

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<v Speaker 1>your ice in there and shake it up. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>will strain it double strain it, meaning you use your

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<v Speaker 1>hawthorn strainer or whatever you normally use, pour it through

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<v Speaker 1>a mesh strainer as you're doing it into your ideally

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<v Speaker 1>pre chilled glass. I like a Nick and Nora or

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<v Speaker 1>a coope for this one. You can also add bitters

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<v Speaker 1>to it before you do that second shake. Delicious, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have a thing that's a little bit eggnoggy

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<v Speaker 1>but also has that Irish cream flavor which has some

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<v Speaker 1>whiskey notes to it, the vanilla flavor. It's delicious. It's

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<v Speaker 1>tongue putting to make the mocktail. There's more recipe doings

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<v Speaker 1>to do Irish cream. You can buy Irish cream flavored syrup,

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<v Speaker 1>add that to some cream and you're ready to roll.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just use that in your thing. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make homemade Irish cream, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>also tell you how to make your own homemade alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>Irish cream if you want. But this base recipe is

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<v Speaker 1>just to make a non alcoholic one delicious. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a can of condensed milk, a cup of

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<v Speaker 1>heavy cream, a teaspoon of vanilla extract, a teaspoon of

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<v Speaker 1>almond extract, one and a half tablespoons of chocolate syrup,

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<v Speaker 1>and anywhere between a pinch and a teaspoon of instant

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<v Speaker 1>coffee ground can be so good. It's so easy too,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't have to do any stovetop anything. You

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<v Speaker 1>throw that business in a blender, you go to town

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<v Speaker 1>and you have Irish cream. If you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>the alcoholic version, throw in a cup and a half

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<v Speaker 1>of Irish whiskey, and that's essentially what Irish cream is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if people are always clocking when you

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<v Speaker 1>drink Irish cream there's a chocolate note in it, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is, so that's why there's That's why there's that

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate in there. But like with the vanilla and the almond,

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<v Speaker 1>it just tastes like this uni beautiful little like a

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<v Speaker 1>cookie in a cream and alcohol or not. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>use it without the whiskey. You can keep that in

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<v Speaker 1>your fridge for like a couple of weeks. Usually once

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<v Speaker 1>you blended all of that together. Depending keep an eye

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<v Speaker 1>your milk products obviously, So there you have your fake

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<v Speaker 1>Irish cream. For your mock tail, I would use a

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<v Speaker 1>thin out version of the vanilla syrup, just so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as thick and heavy. Like literally, you can

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<v Speaker 1>add a little bit of water to it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>in lieu of the gin, I would do a camrameal

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<v Speaker 1>tea and that makes a really really beautiful Oh this

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<v Speaker 1>mocktail feels like a hug. There's something lovely about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, when you start making things like liqueor

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<v Speaker 1>on your own, you realize, oh, the sky's the limit.

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<v Speaker 1>I could make a vanilla watermelon liqueur. I can make

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<v Speaker 1>apple cinnamon liqueur or some sort of like coffee and

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<v Speaker 1>other fruit. Oh, a banana coffee liqueur sounds really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have to get a that. Um Maria made

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<v Speaker 1>a face that said, no, it would not be gooding bananas.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, I forget. I was like, what have

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<v Speaker 1>you done to that's listen? I want banana and everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I know. Sometimes the cheese stands alone. You can

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<v Speaker 1>have them all. So that is the tongue pudding again.

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<v Speaker 1>The base recipe is a whole egg and ounce of

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<v Speaker 1>gin and ounce of Irish cream and ounce of vanilla liquor.

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<v Speaker 1>I used Galiano, which has become my big favorite lately.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, again, we're in no way sponsored by them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a liqueur that I love. You can even

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<v Speaker 1>start playing with this if you want to build your

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<v Speaker 1>own adventure. You can use different liqueurs in lieu of

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<v Speaker 1>the vanilla or the Irish cream. Start switching things out,

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<v Speaker 1>get your own crazy flips going on. I love a flip. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you can use fake egg white. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do a vegan one. You can sub out any

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<v Speaker 1>of your non dairies for any of these two. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about playing. Because there's no such thing as cocktail.

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<v Speaker 1>Jail makes something delicious that tastes good to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>love to choose your own adventure cocktails always. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>the home bar is for. Really, let's see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when this happens. If you know the basics of like

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<v Speaker 1>how a drink should balance, the rest gets real fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What else is real fun is spending this time with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Maria and with our listeners. So we're very grateful that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has hung out with us to hear about William's story.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you will never be the victim of a con

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<v Speaker 1>but we hope that you will hang out with us

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<v Speaker 1>again next week, because we'll be right back here with

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<v Speaker 1>another another con man story and another cocktail. Criminalia is

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