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Do you 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: guys have an idea what your next song is going 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: to be? Have you narrowed it down? I got like 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: two or three that I'm working on all. 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: Of Yeah, yeah, bet I might have something for the 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: next hour. 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Why can we do it as a. 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 5: Team because you take too long? You're like that girl 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: who takes forever getting ready. That is fair, and you're like, yeah, 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 5: I'll just I'll be in the car an hour later 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 5: you finally walk out. You are that person. 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 6: I just the problem for me is I have to 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 6: get it done during the show or it's not going 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 6: to get done. 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the problem. 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 5: What do you mean, by the way, LaVar, haven't we 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 5: been placed with Jonas before where he's like always last 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 5: to come downstairs to leave. 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 6: Oh, we're always waiting on Jonas because he's the star. 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 6: Hold on a second, Hold on. 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: Wait, Brady is telling me that I'm the last to arrive. 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: You're telling me no, no, no. 44 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: When we're all leaving to go someplace in the mornings. Now, 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: I'm usually working out, so I'll push it to get there. 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 5: But I'm always there on time. 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 6: I will say, Jonas is hitting you with some truth though, 48 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 6: because for the show, like our running deal is, which 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 6: is funny because by the last day, it's like he's 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 6: clearly going to come walking in literally, like it's going 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: to be like, yeah, literally a minute togo like literally, 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: But but. 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: Jonas does that every day here. It's the wild which 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: is interesting. 55 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I sit in my car and be chilling, like 56 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 6: just chilling, and I'll be like looking at my clock 57 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 6: and I'd be like, he gets in here, literally fifty three, 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 6: fifty four, fifty five, sometimes even fifty six. 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: Every day. It's the wildest thing every day, Jay, the 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 4: wildest thing. Bro. Just sitting there like, bro, like you 61 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: cut it. Y'all cut it so close. Y'all cut it 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: so close. But hey, that's y'all'll doing. Can verify, Yeah, 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: they cut it close. Man, I'll be chilling. Though. You 64 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 4: want to know who ain't last? Me? I ain't never 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: going to be last. 66 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: So why would you back to the original question, why 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: would you need to get your show your song selection 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: done during the show or. 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: You know why I told you yesterday? You know why? 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 6: Oh, because I'm well, because I'm out of here like 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 6: I'm onto it. 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: Like my life has has time slots. 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: So so when I get up out of a time 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: three to five fifty five, we got you? 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, like one one am one, one thirty am two 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: three what what? 77 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: Uh? No? Six? What time are we done with this show? 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: Five fifty five? Oh yeah, five fifty fIF Yeah, this 79 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: is not true. 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 5: You participate. You participate in the group text, which I'd 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: like you to open up your phone right now. Yeah, 82 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 5: not because there's there is a there's a tweet. I'd 83 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: love for you to read. We have a nice quote. 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: Here we go. All right, you don't want to read that, sure, 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: I don't care. I think we have the sound. 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Actually it seeming real. I think, did Joe Judge really 87 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: say that? 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: Hey, Patty, we have that sound right, the Joe Judge sound. 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 4: It's in sound you want to right now? I mean, 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 4: this is a real drop. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: This actually exist. I thought this was like parody. 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: I can't talk. 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 7: I would say. Look, I said this was a neighbor. 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 7: I mean it's yeah, it was a next door neighbor. Yeah, 95 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 7: like if you watch those documentaries, my house is on 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 7: the TV in the next door. Yeah, the detectors knocked 97 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 7: on my door to find out where he was. 98 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 7: I mean we just kind of talked to the organization, right, 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 7: But I mean I was obviously chaotic. But again, those 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 7: players that year handle that extremely well. You know, came 102 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 7: out of that chaos and we had some really good 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 7: direction inside with some veterans and different guys. And you 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 7: have something like that happen, it's you know, how do 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 7: you handle something like that? You know, how do you 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 7: deal with something like that? So you know, you keep 107 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 7: the folks on what you can handle, what you can control, 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 7: which is at that time was football for us, and 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 7: then went through the stretch and we're able to have 110 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 7: success that he was twenty fourteen. We end the season 111 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 7: here as well. 112 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: So there you go. 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Aaron Hernandez being his neighbor, was the comp to lame 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: kiff and leaving. 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 6: I mean both are chaotic, right all right, but one 116 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 6: is clearly a little bit more. 117 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: Anybody in the face, Well, there you go. 118 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: I mean one of those what you do when they 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: bring in the person that does the pr training. 120 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: Just for those who don't. 121 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: Know, you might want to stay from that. 122 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 5: Every team brings in a nice man or woman who 123 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 5: comes in and they help give you directives as to 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: what to avoid saying anything controversial, anything that speaks for 125 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 5: the entirety of the team. You know, just speak for 126 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 5: yourself if you're to say something, and try not to 127 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 5: speculate all these different little tactics they. 128 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: Stay positive, don't say negative stuff. 129 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 5: This would fall into the category of away from that one, 130 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 5: like it would be in the highlight reel of things. 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 5: You don't want to venture down that path and make 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 5: comparisons to in fact, not like not making comparisons. 133 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: That's probably another one. 134 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I thought it was pretty extreme, but I 135 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 6: guess he got his point across. I mean, if you're 136 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 6: saying that this is you've dealt with chaos before and 137 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 6: that you can block out the chaos and get results, 138 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 6: I guess you gave one of the most extreme examples 139 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: that you could give. So drove his point home. 140 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: That's for certain. I understood where he was coming from. 141 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: It definitely did. Well, there you go, and I won't 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 4: go any. 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 6: Further with it because why because there's this lady or 144 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 6: a person that they bring in and they tell you these. 145 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 4: Are the topics that you get hit like, these. 146 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 6: Are the things, you know, advice to things to stay 147 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 6: away from Like, Okay, you could discuss this, but maybe 148 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 6: you shouldn't discuss that. You know, definitely should stay away 149 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 6: from these things. So I'm just not going not going 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 6: to go any further with that, so A. But they 151 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 6: keep making documentaries about it though, so they like his 152 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 6: house is in a lot of different so we needed 153 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 6: documentaries there. 154 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: You need another one of those, right, Uh, well with that, 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: pie's one more, you know. With that being said, there 156 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 2: was also the subject of Mario Crystabal. We mentioned the 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: game preview. For those of you wanted the Quinns win 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: on that, go back and listen to the podcast. That's 159 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: where you can find that if you want to make 160 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: some money on this game. But Ole Miss and Miami 161 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: are there, and so Mario Cristobal was asked about, you know, 162 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: maybe some some info that might be passed along during 163 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: the portal process of college football and what like this. 164 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 8: It's a weird, wild time when you have a transfer 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 8: portal open and while you're trying to prepare to compete 166 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 8: for a national championship, did you guys have any concerns 167 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 8: about say, outgoing players from your program maybe rival programs 168 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 8: are in the semi finals or elsewhere, reaching out to them, 169 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 8: trying to get even intel on your own programs as 170 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 8: you try to win a national championship. 171 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 9: Well, I think it happens all the time, and if 172 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 9: we don't think it is happening, then we're kidding ourselves. 173 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 9: But quite honestly, I don't blame the players. I blame 174 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 9: the adults. We created the system, right, We're supposed to 175 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 9: be setting the example. Right, We're supposed to be setting 176 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 9: the standard as it relates to everything. 177 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 4: So when you create a system that. 178 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 9: Has as many holes as it does, well, then you know, 179 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 9: shame on you if you're surprised by some of the 180 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 9: results that come with it. 181 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 6: So it's a sensible response. Yeah, that's the portal, your guys. 182 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 6: Is portal, very sensible. 183 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 5: It's it's gotten a lot of flack of late. 184 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: I guess do we just want to talk about this now? 185 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: The Demand Williams. 186 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: Situation, Well, it lends to like some of what's happening, 187 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 5: and it's odd that all these things happen to be 188 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 5: connected to Lane Kiffin. It's like he seems to be 189 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: at the center of all of this. But for those 190 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 5: who don't know, Demon Williams quarterback at the University of 191 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: Washington really talented player. He signed an agreement to go 192 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: back to you dub this upcoming season. However, after signing 193 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: the agreement, he went into the transfer portals trying to 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: go into the transfer portal. Supposedly, because he signed this 195 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 5: what it was deemed to be a binding agreement with 196 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: the university, the University of Washington will not put him 197 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: into the portal. However, it's become public that he has 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: a desire to go into the portal. Now, what makes 199 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: matters even crazier is the head coach Jed Fish has 200 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: the same exact agent as. 201 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: Demon Williams does. 202 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: That is interesting. 203 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 6: You know what I find interesting as this is all 204 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 6: unfolding with looking at the competitive nature of what the 205 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 6: portal represents to the elites. The non elites are the 206 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 6: ones that get lost in all of this. And I 207 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 6: think that listening to coach Christovall, what he had to 208 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 6: say is so relevant because while we will sit here 209 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 6: and talk about the elite QBS or the elite player, 210 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 6: that these these you know schools want and are after 211 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 6: and are willing to pay all of these dollars for 212 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 6: that transfer portal is also a place where castaways are 213 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 6: ending up and people aren't really talking about that. Guys 214 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 6: are ending up in the portal not because they want 215 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 6: it to be in the portal, because they're being basically cut. 216 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 6: They're being cut from their team. We don't want you anymore, 217 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 6: you know. And I started thinking to myself, it's like, man, 218 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 6: I was thinking a GM being hired. Now it's like, okay, 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 6: you got to manage the money and this, that and 220 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 6: the other and blase blah, like, oh I get it, 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 6: and you know, recruitment this. Then they are now cutting players. 222 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: You didn't cut players back in the day you came in, 223 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 6: if you came in on scholarship, Like yeah, they'll threaten you, 224 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 6: I will send you out of here. Maybe they'll give 225 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 6: you a lot of you know, punishment trainings and force 226 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 6: you to quit or different things like that. 227 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: There were different. 228 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 6: Tactics to get a guy to leave the team, but 229 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 6: you weren't. You didn't hear guys getting cut. These young 230 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 6: men are getting let go from their team like basically 231 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 6: telling them, Okay, you are making this, you're not going 232 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 6: to make That's their way of saying, get out, you're 233 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 6: not making this next year, You're not going to make 234 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 6: this amount of money, you're going to take a pay 235 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: cut or this we want to go in a different direction. 236 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: You're going to be like the third. 237 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 6: String during fifth string quarterback on its team, or receiver, 238 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: whatever it may be. And these kids are and this 239 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 6: isn't being talked about, but they're being actually placed in 240 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 6: a position where what's being said to them is equating 241 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 6: to them having to go into the portal. They have 242 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: to go into the portal. 243 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: I know somebody who was told specifically, I'd get in 244 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: the portal if I were you correct. 245 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, correct. 246 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 6: It's just I mean, I don't feel like that's kind 247 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 6: of a saying commentary. 248 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: Man, it is. 249 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot of different ways you 250 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: can talk about this, and I think there's two sides 251 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 5: to all this. So as much as it's unfortunate for 252 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 5: those kids, and I remember I talked about this with 253 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 5: Parker Livingston, the wide receiver at Texas. 254 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: You know, he had a really good season this year. 255 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: He actually I remember seeing in Week one at Ohio 256 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 5: State catching some some big time passes for them. As 257 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 5: a freshman, he was their third lending receiver and he 258 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: felt like he had to put his name in the 259 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 5: portal because of what the. 260 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: Coaches had said to him. 261 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: I mean, again, this is a guy who was their 262 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,119 Speaker 5: third leading receiver in yards and receptions, second in touchdown receptions. 263 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 5: Like he stepped up in a big way. He was 264 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 5: the roommate arch manning, and they're bringing other guys. So 265 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: it's incredibly unfortunate. However, some people would say, though, in 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: order for other guys to capitalize, like this is the 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 5: system that we have, Like some of the top end 268 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: guys wouldn't be able to make as much as they 269 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 5: were able to make, or other players make as much 270 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 5: as they were able to make if not for the 271 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: ability to you know, leverage themselves put themselves in the portal, 272 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 5: et cetera. So this is the downside of it, right, 273 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 5: Like we hear, to your point, we only hear about 274 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 5: the upside of what guys are making and some of 275 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: the star players and those things. We don't hear about 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: the guys that get pushed out or we seldom here about. 277 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 10: That's okay, I thought you were go ahead, well, and 278 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 10: and what I was going to say is, I think 279 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 10: if we didn't have let's say we didn't have nil, 280 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 10: but we had the transfer portal, it. 281 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: Would be the same exact thing. 282 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: The difference would be just the scholarships, which I would say, 283 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 5: I'm obviously a little younger than you. So one of 284 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 5: the things like you kind of touched on there and 285 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: talking about, was I know guys who got there a 286 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: Notre dame, and it became very evident that the coaching 287 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: staff was going to do everything they could to make 288 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: that player's life tough so that they would probably quit 289 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 5: or transfer. Ye whether it's like the early morning workouts 290 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: or even for like class scheduling, they weren't able to 291 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 5: get the class scheduling they really needed in order to get, 292 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: you know, their degree that they wanted slash for practice 293 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: everything else. Like their life was going to be someone 294 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: miserable and that was like one of those tactics. And 295 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 5: so at least it's not hidden like now, at least 296 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: you know, some of these coaches at least their fourthright, 297 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 5: they're honest with them. They'll say, hey, man, I think 298 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: you need to get in the portal, like we're going 299 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: to go with someone else. I mean to me, this 300 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: whole entire scenario for young people, there's good and bad 301 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 5: to it. I think one of the good things that 302 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: comes from that is even if you have someone to 303 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 5: tell you like, hey, you're not good enough or we 304 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 5: don't think you're good enough. It's a moment where you 305 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: can either take that and you could do what you 306 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 5: want with it. You can keep pursuing it, keep proving 307 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: them wrong, or you can you know, take that as like, 308 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 5: all right, maybe this isn't the path for me, Maybe 309 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 5: I need to go in a different direction. And someone's 310 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: trying to give me a hint that, like, this path 311 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: is only going to lead so far that I need. 312 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: To start thinking about the future. 313 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 5: Because one of the things I think you find is 314 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 5: some of those people you're talking about, they exhaust all 315 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: efforts to basically take scholarships from either lower level guys 316 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: who are trying to come up or high school level 317 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: kids and opportunities, and they don't really have a future 318 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 5: in the sport, but they're exhausting all efforts to make 319 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: as much money as they can in it. And I 320 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: can't fault them for that. But that is a cause 321 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 5: and effect of where we're at right now. 322 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 6: The problem now, the issue I have with this, and 323 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 6: my major concern is that it's not based off of 324 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: development and education. It's my biggest It's the biggest problem 325 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 6: I have with this is because now it's like, okay, 326 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 6: so now it's okay to change the narrative. For so long, 327 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 6: athletes have been judged for the idea of I'm focused 328 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: on being an athlete. Do you understand what type of 329 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 6: ridicule you exposed yourself to if you said I'm a 330 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: football player, I want to play football. Do you understand 331 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: the type of scrutiny and the type of criticism that 332 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 6: would come your way if you said something as simple 333 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: as I just want to focus in on ball. Had 334 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 6: to be a student athlete, right, shamed, shamed to the umpteenth. 335 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: Power, and now and now. 336 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 6: It's okay, Now it's okay to actually, oh wait, like 337 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 6: when do we mention education here? 338 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: Like that? 339 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 6: The whole point of what was just made in terms 340 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 6: of maybe this is you know why it's a waste 341 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 6: of a scholarship because you're not going to help our 342 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 6: football team on Saturday, but you gave me a scholarship. 343 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 6: I would I didn't. First of all, somebody isn't just 344 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 6: given a scholarship. You have to earn it, like it's 345 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 6: an investment. They have to invest this money in you 346 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 6: to come here, so something made them feel like you 347 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 6: should be here, and we're going to give you money 348 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 6: to be here. If you don't turn out to be 349 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: the player, which happens more often than anything else, you're 350 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 6: going to have more guys that aren't going to be 351 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 6: pro material than guys that are going to be pro 352 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 6: material that play on your team. Let's be clear on 353 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 6: that point of it. So when you realize that you, oh, 354 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: I'm one of the many. I'm one of the many 355 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 6: that aren't going to make it to the next level, 356 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 6: you have to look at education still as the major 357 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: staple of what college football represents, even in the name, image, 358 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: likeness era of time. And that is a very very 359 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 6: poor commentary. It's a very sad conclusion to come to 360 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 6: that it is not. And now you can no longer 361 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 6: deny the fact that's saying student athlete or they're not 362 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 6: employees of your university. You can no longer avoid the 363 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 6: conversation of what this truly is. You are looking for 364 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: your workforce, wherever it is the portal or at the 365 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 6: high school level, you are seeking your workforce, and if 366 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 6: they prove out, you pay them, and you pay them more. 367 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: If they don't, you move. 368 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 6: On from them, and you're trying to find that next 369 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: person to plug that gap and make your team a 370 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 6: better team. 371 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: Leave it there. 372 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 6: Take the narrative away from these kids and acting as 373 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 6: though all they're about is the money. All they want 374 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 6: is the money. Oh, it's all about money. The kids, 375 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 6: the kids, the kids, the kids. What are you after, university? 376 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: What are you after? Coaching staff? What are you after? 377 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 6: Because I barely hear education anymore at all. 378 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: I barely hear it. I barely hear it. 379 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: There was a couple of days last week where jonas 380 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 5: that we're working and you weren't working. And one of 381 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: the things we talked about is no, well we haven't 382 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 5: talked about the college basketball portion of this, which is 383 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 5: that's been the most like evidence of the lack of 384 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: concern for education and development if you follow what's happening 385 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: in college basketball right now, like you had a guy 386 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 5: who was drafted who's trying to come back and play 387 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 5: in college basketball after playing pro overseas, and look, and 388 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: after talking to some folks, I'll go as far as 389 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 5: even saying conference commissioners, I'd ask say what's your take 390 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: on this? And their take was, Hey, look, as long 391 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 5: as they didn't sign a contract, we believe that they 392 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 5: should still be a liberty to come back and play 393 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: if that's the case, So. 394 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: As long as they didn't sign. 395 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 5: Which I know they've moved the goalpost a bit with 396 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 5: some of that discussion and language around it. But it 397 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: feels like college basketball has always been one step ahead 398 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 5: of college football because of it's a one and done. 399 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: So I think when college basketball went away from, you know, 400 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 5: forcing players to either choose to go to pro out 401 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: a high school or choosing to be in school for 402 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 5: at least a couple of years. 403 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 3: Few years they went away. 404 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 5: From that same model too, Like every sport that essentially 405 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 5: made it easier and faster to get to the professional level, 406 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 5: and basketball was the first to do so, they all 407 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: of a sudden through education out the window. I mean 408 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 5: John cala Perry's pitch when he was back at Kentucky 409 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 5: was well, they'll come back and get their degree. He 410 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: wasn't worried about it when they were there, just as 411 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 5: long as they were eligible, which you know, those guys 412 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 5: were even probably stepping foot in the classroom if they 413 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: were was probably nothing too difficult during the time there. So, 414 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 5: like I look at it, and say like this framework 415 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 5: has been set for a while now with players who 416 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 5: have then had the opportunity in basketball to walk in 417 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 5: and walk out like that, and so now in football, 418 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: I think the tough thing is we've enabled them to 419 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 5: be able to only make it or only you know, 420 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: prioritize money as opposed to development. 421 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: And by the way, look like anything else, it's like 422 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: a belt curve. 423 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 5: You've got your you know, ten percent on one side 424 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: that that's ultimately the only thing they care about. You 425 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 5: have the ten percent on the other that it doesn't 426 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: matter because they're not good enough or they don't even 427 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 5: have that opportunity, and the other eighty percent in between. 428 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 5: It's probably a blend. Does money matter, you know, most 429 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 5: for some of them, Yeah, but it's not everything. Does 430 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 5: money matter as much for others? But maybe it's about 431 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: that coach they're going to play for. Maybe it's about 432 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: that education they're going to get in the degree. I 433 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 5: think it differs, and I think we tend to, you know, 434 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 5: get frustrated in all of this. But the truth of 435 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 5: the matter is, hopefully the adults in the room, the 436 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 5: parents and the advisors for some of these guys, they 437 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: do care enough to work with the school and say, 438 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 5: you know, hey, we want to come back here and 439 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 5: finish or whatever the case is, whether they leave earlier, 440 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: whether they're transferring out there, there's some way of keeping 441 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 5: some goodwill and making sure that they come back and 442 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: have the opportunity to get a degree one day. Because 443 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 5: that's the scariest thing I think when I look at 444 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 5: these young people, I'm like, the gonna be leaving college 445 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 5: and yeah, they may not have any debt, and they 446 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 5: may have some you know, some money in. 447 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: There in hand, and you have no flag, no nation, 448 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 6: no no network, no network, nothing to build anything off 449 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 6: of or even focus. 450 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 4: That's it. 451 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 5: No even no focus on education, correct, Unlike what do 452 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 5: I want to do outside of football? 453 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: You know, That's why I liked what Quinn Yours did 454 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: because Quinn Ewers, after his final year at Texas, there 455 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: was apparently an offer on the table, a deal for 456 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: him to go elsewhere, and he turned it down because 457 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: he's Texas was his dream and he didn't want to 458 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: He just didn't want to end his career playing for 459 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: somebody else, almost as you know, kind of a mercenary. 460 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: And so he went into the draft. He got drafted 461 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: seventh round whatever. But it was almost like it felt 462 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: rare to hear somebody of that stature who could go 463 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: get a paycheck, who could go get a payday somewhere else, 464 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: who said, man. 465 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: I want to be loyal to the school. 466 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 6: I went to school for rehab education, a major in 467 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 6: sociology on my psychology. 468 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: I stayed in school. 469 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 6: For obviously to I wanted to be like my mom 470 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 6: and help help kids beyond the game. I always was 471 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 6: my focus, even as a player, was to help help kids, 472 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: help help people in development. If if my only worth 473 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 6: and my only value was me playing the game, and 474 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 6: you see this play out so often. I mean, I 475 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 6: could tell you a gazillion names of former players that 476 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: can they struggle with life. 477 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: They can't. 478 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: They cannot function in life. Turn the drugs, turn the alcohol. 479 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 6: They're abusive, not only to themselves, they're abusive to others. 480 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 6: They're just they're they're in poor condition because they subscribe 481 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 6: to just being a football player. And once the game 482 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: was gone, they didn't know how to care for themselves. 483 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 6: They didn't know how to schedule for themselves, nothing, nothing, 484 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 6: because the skills that they needed to be able to 485 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 6: be productive in their lives was not there, and it 486 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 6: becomes apparent when you do not have the game anymore. 487 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 6: The focus and the purpose of college sports, of high 488 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 6: school sports is supposed to prepare you to be an 489 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 6: adult beyond the sport, beyond the sport, just like everybody 490 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 6: else that goes to school and what's developing them and 491 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 6: teaching them to be prepared for life beyond school, and 492 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 6: that seems to be gone. 493 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 4: It seems to be gone. 494 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 6: As it applies to athletics, especially high end net worth 495 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 6: value sports like football and basketball, it seems to not 496 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 6: be a focus anymore. To me, I think it's very 497 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 6: sad because for me, I went to school, I would 498 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 6: have never ended up in radio, never would have ended 499 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 6: up in radio ever if it wasn't for a Penn 500 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 6: State or that was a program director. I was like, hey, 501 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 6: maybe you should come in and learn about what radio 502 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 6: is about. My network and my education and my community 503 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 6: is the reason why I'm even on the microphone right now. 504 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: And that's gone, Like that's gone. You're you're you're transferring, 505 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: You're you're a man with no flag, You're a man 506 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 6: with no nation, And that's a that's a very sad 507 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 6: commentary to have to play out and look at you guys. 508 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: All that success on the field, and here I was 509 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: ready to welcome me in with arms and say, you 510 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: know what, let's go get in the mud together. Come on, 511 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: let's go get dirty together. Let's do this thing, all 512 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: three of us, all on the same spot. It is 513 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: two pros and cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, 514 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: the Mud, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knock here. All right, 515 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: it's coming up next here speaking of the mud. One 516 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: team finds themselves in it yet again in the NFL. 517 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: But is there any way out. We'll get into that 518 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: for you right here on FSR. 519 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what you can get out. Some pizza sauce, 520 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 6: some some pizza dough. 521 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can enjoy it. 522 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 6: You know why, Well, because there's this thing going on 523 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 6: with Pizza Hut and it's called Pizza before the Hut 524 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox, and you know what, it's a challenge with quarterbacks. 525 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: Pizza Hut has another message for fans. 526 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: Want to know what it is. What's up? 527 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 6: Don't forget to order a Pizza Hut. Pizza before the 528 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 6: first Hut is yelled in the game. Hell yeah, think 529 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 6: about that. Man, they trying to hook you up and 530 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 6: we want you to be a part of that. And 531 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 6: here's the move. Go with the Big New Yorker. It's 532 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 6: their biggest pizza for their biggest games. It's massive, with 533 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 6: slices so big you have to fall them like true 534 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 6: new your slices. Yeah, and right now, it's just ten bucks, 535 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 6: ten bucks. You know how big them slices are. One 536 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 6: slice should be worth ten bucks. Do that math. They're 537 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 6: giving you all of them, just ten bucks. Make sure 538 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 6: you get it before that first Hut. Order the biggest 539 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 6: pizza for the biggest games. Like I said, and listen, 540 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 6: you can order any pizza you want. What's your game 541 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 6: day pizza? I don't know, but you can order it. 542 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 6: I think you should go with the New Yorker. And 543 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 6: you know what, us here at two Pros and a 544 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 6: cup of Joe, we feel like that's what you should do. 545 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 6: So make sure you do it, and make sure you 546 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 6: do it for the big game this weekend. Don't forget 547 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: to pizza the Hut before the first Hut, all right, 548 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 6: order the Big New. 549 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: Yorker early, don't wait, it's just ten bucks. 550 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 11: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 551 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 11: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arring, and 552 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 11: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 553 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 11: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 554 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 6: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd 555 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 6: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 556 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 12: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 557 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 12: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are 558 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 12: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 559 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 4: That's right. 560 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 6: You can now watch The Odd Couple live on YouTube 561 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: every day. 562 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 12: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube. 563 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 12: Again YouTube, Just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out 564 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 12: on YouTube and subscribe. 565 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: Two pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 566 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming 567 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: up about twelve minutes from now, we are going to 568 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 2: hand out an award on this show. This is a 569 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: tradition here on this show, not our midweek awards. Something 570 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: different that'll be yours right here on FSR. If we 571 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: were going to hand out an award for one of 572 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: the most dysfunctional organizations in the NFL, the Las Vegas Raiders, 573 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: would be right near the top of the list, near. 574 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: The top, who out does them? Dallas Jets are pretty bad. Jets. Okay, 575 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: jets are pretty bad. Are they worse than Vegas? Yeah? 576 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: Are they? 577 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: I would say, yeah? 578 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: Worse. 579 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 5: Well, here's here's what I'd say is ESPN did an 580 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 5: article and there's a lot of really interesting quotes that 581 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: come from it. Now, I will say that most are agents, 582 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 5: which you know some some of the agents, they could 583 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 5: have been burned and didn't feel like it helped their client. 584 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: And I think most would agree. It doesn't feel like 585 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 5: a very stable organization, and that predates tom Brady's involvement. 586 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: But the article does lay out. 587 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: Basically all the missteps that they've taken even since tom 588 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 5: Brady has been a part of it, and it begs 589 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 5: the question, if tom Brady has as much influence as 590 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: he does in the organization, are you able to do 591 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: so successfully if you're not there? Twenty four to seven 592 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 5: And there's people who speak within the article former I 593 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: forget the exact title, but let's just call him former 594 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 5: front office executives who call into question that like, hey, 595 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 5: this is twenty four to seven job. If you're going 596 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 5: to be here, you need to be here, and it's 597 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 5: tough to win championships or it's tough to have that 598 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 5: sort of success that Tom Brady had when he devoted 599 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 5: so much of his life to the Patriots and the 600 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Bucks. And yet now it's like, if you're 601 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 5: going to be a part of the Raiders, like maybe 602 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: you need to be there full time at least that's 603 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: what the article is questioning it. 604 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: Also, and look, I know that Mark Davis has talked 605 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: about this before, but they keep going back to the 606 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: fact that we had a plan and then the John 607 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: Gruden stuff happened and it completely set everything back. But 608 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: it still doesn't explain. Okay, well, but but here's what 609 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't explain. Rich Pisaccia took over his coach that year, 610 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 2: they still went to the playoffs. They you know, lost 611 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: a close game at Cincinnati, and that was the year 612 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: Cincinnati went to the Super Bowl. And you decided after 613 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: that to let go of Rich Pisaccia, to bring in 614 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel, to bring it like they made those decisions 615 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: post Gruden. So while they can point to, yeah, we 616 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: got you know, there was a wrench thrown in our 617 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: plan when when Gruden was let oh true, but there's 618 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: still been things that have been done there that have 619 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: not worked, multiple things, and so the idea that that's 620 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: still where things went sideways correct, but they're no way 621 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: like they got worse this year, like they got worse 622 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: with Pete Carroll, Like Pete Carroll and Brennan Carroll his 623 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: son apparently know offensive linemen and like didn't know what 624 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: they were doing. They weren't coached right. And then get 625 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: to Brady's point, this is agents of these linemen who 626 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 2: were saying these things, but they're they're talking about you know, 627 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: spy tech. The gm is having to watch film with 628 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: offensive linemen and Ashton Gent so that they can be 629 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: better prepared. 630 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 5: Just players only meetings and things that they hadn't been 631 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 5: a part of, where you know, the offensive line, the 632 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 5: running backs like you know Gino, like they're trying to 633 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: figure it out a separate from the coaches because they 634 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 5: didn't feel good about it. And this is Look, this 635 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 5: is one of the things that I heard when Ship 636 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 5: Kelly was fired that there was going to be a 637 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 5: media campaign to basically put it on ship. And again 638 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: just from being around Ship, knowing ship for a long time, 639 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 5: that offense looked nothing like what Ship Kelly ran at 640 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 5: Ohio State last year, what he did in prior Ston. 641 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: So whether it was Philly or San Francisco or going 642 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 5: back to Oregon, the offense looked like what Pete Carroll 643 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 5: was trying to do back when he was in Seattle. 644 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 5: And I think there's an element of wanting to protect 645 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 5: his son Brennan from taking too much flack. And he's 646 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 5: got two sons who are on that staff on the 647 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball, and that's the side that 648 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 5: struggled mightily. And you could say, like, well, it wasn't 649 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 5: great when Chipko was in their teeth too. 650 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: That's true, but I also. 651 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 5: Don't feel like the talent was there really around that position. 652 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 5: I mean, brock Bauers missed time. He kind of is 653 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: everything to that offense, at least in the passing game. 654 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 5: Michael Mayer missed some time. They had other guys who 655 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 5: were in and out. Jacobe Myers got traded like that 656 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 5: was a guy you're heavily reliant on, or you're gonna 657 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 5: be relying on. 658 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: Colton Miller was gone. I think he was a offensive lineman. 659 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the offensive line struggled mightily, but it's 660 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 5: all those things adds up to not being successful. But 661 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: then when you take into account that you've got a 662 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 5: head coaches maybe kind of strong arming how he wants 663 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 5: the offense to be on what it should look like, 664 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 5: that doesn't work either. So it ends up being a 665 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 5: disastrous season for the Raid. And so it goes back 666 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 5: to the original question and point. You know, if you 667 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: look at what happened last off season, they didn't get 668 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 5: Ben Johnson. That's ultimately who Tom Brady wanted, and I 669 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 5: believe you could say Mark Davis wanted to didn't happen. 670 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 3: He in the article it talks about Ben Johnson became. 671 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 5: Interested because Tom Brady had reached out and they really 672 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 5: made a push, but in the end it didn't matter. 673 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 5: So then you look at, you know, some of the 674 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 5: the you know, quarterback position for example. And I don't 675 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: want to make more of what was ever reported. I'm 676 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 5: not saying there was you know, tampering or whatever going on, 677 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: but you know there's reports of Matt Stafford and Tom Brady. 678 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: Running into each other. 679 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 5: And there was a thought that when Matt Stafford was 680 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 5: given the opportunity to potentially look for a trade, that 681 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: the Raiders are going to be one of the destinations, 682 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 5: and there's. 683 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 3: A conversation that was had. 684 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 5: Ultimately, Matt Stafford chose to go back with the La 685 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 5: Rams and he might win an MVP this year. So 686 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 5: neither of the number one picks that had for their 687 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: head coach or quarterback worked out. And so it goes 688 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 5: back to the initial question, LaVar, can you be in 689 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 5: the position where you have a ton of influence in 690 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 5: an organization and not be there twenty four to seven 691 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 5: and not, you know, make that. 692 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: Your your main deal. 693 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 4: If you're. 694 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 6: If your end result is to be a catalyst for 695 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 6: improvement and for success, I'd say no. I mean that 696 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 6: there's there's certain businesses where you can can be that person. 697 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 6: I don't know that there that exists in in sports, 698 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 6: you know, I look at too too quick examples Michael Jordan, 699 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 6: John Elway. Michael Jordan not so successful and wins. John 700 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 6: Elway had success, got a Super Bowl, brought in Peyton Manning, 701 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 6: which could be like maybe the equivalent of bringing in 702 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 6: a Stafford, but had regression after Peyton man was gone. 703 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 6: I think if Tom Brady is going to have success, 704 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 6: he's going to have to be there. He's going to 705 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 6: have to learn it, he's going to have to execute. 706 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 6: But with that being said, Jordan did grow. 707 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 4: The value. 708 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: The value of the franchise grew, So it just matters 709 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 6: what Tom Brady's you know, what his motivation is. The 710 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 6: valuation continues to go up for the Raiders. They went 711 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 6: from seven point seven billion to seven point nine If 712 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 6: the reports are accurate and they're top ten, they're constantly 713 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 6: a top ten rated value team in the NFL. So 714 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 6: if that's his win, then he's winning. But if the 715 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 6: win is to get him on the field, he definitely 716 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 6: has to be there and he has to have an 717 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 6: influence if he wants to be a direct influence on 718 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 6: the success. 719 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: I don't know that you. 720 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 5: Have to do much, honestly for the evaluations to go up, 721 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 5: like you take a year. 722 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 6: Off and yeah, absolutely absolutely So it just matters what 723 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 6: the motivation of him is. Is it the direct on 724 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 6: field wins or is it the value of the franchise itself. 725 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 3: I can tell you this much. 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Oh it's over, Matthew 800 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 4: Stafford's going to I'm with you. 801 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: They just needed one performance. 802 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 3: Hold on, what was what was the betting odds? 803 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 2: What are they am actually efforting? It's not it's not 804 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: showing the betting odds right now. 805 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 3: Well, I wonder why Jonas. It's not as slam dunk 806 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 3: as you think there, Han j. 807 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 11: Well, I. 808 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 2: Do think there was some people who looked at Drake 809 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: May was another winning the MVP. I do think some 810 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 2: people looked at Drake May winning the MVP and we're 811 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 2: trying to find every reason not to give it to him, 812 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: like he's been great, But it was almost like they 813 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: were waiting for a performance from Matthew Stafford. So he 814 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: had one against the Cardinals and it was like, oh, that's. 815 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 4: The one thought. 816 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 5: The argument that some would have is that it shouldn't 817 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 5: be a lifetime achievement a word, it should be what 818 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 5: do they do this season? I think that's the argument 819 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 5: for Drake May because he has in some advanced metrics, 820 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 5: been phenomenal, and in regards to Stafford, he's been just 821 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 5: as good, if not better. So it's a tough conversation 822 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 5: because I think both, you can make a case, are 823 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: very deserving. 824 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 4: Albert Brears got a boat. 825 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 2: Let's try and to squeeze it out of him next