1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: As a CEO and fashion authority, I know it's the 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: details that truly matter, and when it comes to luxury, 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: every stitch must be perfectly tailored. At Genesis, they've delivered 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: on every element of the GV eighty two line. Led 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: headlamps accentuate an exterior that exudes athletic elegance. Inside, discover 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: an expansive cabin with ambient lighting. Take a close look 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: at the Genesis GV eighty and you'll see lux is 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: in the details. Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: listening to Climbing in Heels. This show is all about 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: celebrating extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing their incredible journeys 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: to the top, all while staying glamorous. There is so 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: much going on in the world right now, and it's 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: an understatement to say that there's a lot of darkness. 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, I was so incredibly shattered to hear 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: about the passing of Suzanne Summers. First started in the 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: podcast World Roger and I had the absolute pleasure of 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: interviewing Suzanne and her lovely husband, Alan Hammill. Suzanne was 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: the absolute definition of a warrior in every sense of 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: the word. She dazzled audiences for years and fought courageously 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: for equal pay for women when nobody else was approaching 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: the subject. Suzanne was such a loving, positive light, and 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to share our interview with her to help 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: shed some much needed inspiration and joy. My hope is 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: that her story touches your heart the way it did mine. 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: It is by far and away one of the greatest 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: love stories I've ever ever heard, and I remember very 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: clearly finishing the podcast that day and sobbing, just like 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: the happiest tears, because I had never I'd never heard 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: of a love story that wasn't in a movie that 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: was this real. It was like the Notebook, and I 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: just fell even deeper in love with Suzanne. She was truly, truly, 32 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: truly and will continue to be a shining light above everybody. 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: And that smile, I will never forget it. She literally 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: smiled through the whole interview. Just a positive force for 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: women and just you know, of health and wellness, and 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: you know she will just be remembered in the most 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: beautiful way by everyone. I hope you enjoyed this one, 38 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: because it means a lot to me, and I wanted 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: to share it with you. 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: You're the famous Roger Berman, aren't you. I want to 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: add a little to brag about my husband. He was 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: actually the Johnny Carson of Canada. He hosted the precursor 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: to Saturday Night Live and they did outrageous satire on 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: Canadian television. And when I met him, he was so famous. 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe he wanted to take me out. 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Oh you know, when I met Rachel, she was so hot, 47 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: I didn't think she'd take me out. 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: So I'm kind of right there with you. 49 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: No, but that, by the way, Can I just say 50 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Canadians are like my favorite people? 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 5: They? 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: What what is it in the water in Canada that 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: everyone is just so much nicer from every and when 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: I meet is just the kindest, friendliest, happiest, like giving, 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: like amazing, amazing people. I feel like we need to 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: spend more time in Canada. 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: Yes we do. 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 6: Do you know anyone like that? 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: Alan, I don't know any Canadians like that. 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: Wow. What I wanted to ask when I was reading 61 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: up on on the two of You do you live 62 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: in California? 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: Well Suzanna does? 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: Or how did this whole how are you a Canadian star? 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: But she's a big us star. I just and you're 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: still together. Someone explained that to me. 67 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 6: I want me to start allan. 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: When I met him, I was not Suzanne Summers in 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: that I had no fame at all. 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: And he this was nine years before a threees company. 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 72 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: He felt he had gone as far as he could 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: go in Canadian television. So he moved to the States 75 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: and he partnered with Dick Clark, and he and Dick 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: Clark's started producing shows. 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: And Oh that Slacker, Yeah yeah. 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: And one of those shows, I was hired as kind 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: of the pretty model and and then the rest is history. 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: I was hired for a game show they were produced, 81 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: called The Anniversary Game, and I was terrible at it. 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: So I left in shame because I kept looking at 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: the wrong camera. But he found my phone number and 84 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: called me up, and so I went out with them 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: and slept with them on the first date because I 86 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: thought I may never get another chance. 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: I love you, because I keep telling all my girlfriends 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: that are single right now that go on dates, I'm like, 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: don't do that. But now I have to kind of 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: retract on that. 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: Wow. 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was some you knew I met him, 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: and I knew him. I didn't know what that meant, 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: but I knew him. If you believe in past lives. 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: I think we've been together a lot. 96 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: That's amazing because of told us that too rightly. 97 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they did. 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that you could coin it 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: as chemistry. 100 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I love that. 101 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: So, oh my god, I cry well. 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Roger and I have been together for thirty years and 103 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: married for twenty four to thank you, And I think 104 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: you know that was sort of the impetus for works 105 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: for us was because I think people probably the same 106 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: as when they meet you guys, like how on earth 107 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: have you done together this long in this industry? How 108 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: do you work together? And all of that, But you've 109 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: actually been married for forty. 110 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: Four, which is how long before you started to keep 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: going with the story. This is a good story, Like, 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: so you woke up the next morning and what happened. 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 6: In my own bed? I slipped out. 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, work of shame? 115 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I got it. 116 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: You know when you come home like four o'clock in 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 6: the morning, walk of shame. 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: Why you're wearing heels. Why you're wearing heels? 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 6: Yes, makeup down to your chin, you're holding your heels. 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I I I would marry him that night, but 121 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 2: he wasn't ready. 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 6: He was just getting out of a marriage. 123 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: And I went to my therapist at the time and 124 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: I said, I met the man I want to marry, 125 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: and she said, tell me about him. She said, Oh, 126 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: he won't be ready to get married for ten years. 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: And so ten years later, maybe it was nine years. 128 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 6: I'm not sure it all worked out. But we're blending 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 6: families too. That is so hard. 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: I had one child, he had two, and there is 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: no child, no child who wants a new parent, and 132 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: so they feel threatened. They try to divide, you know, MONI, 133 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: can you and I go out for dinner? Just that's 134 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: not them kind of things. And it wasn't until we 135 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: got married and we became a united front that the 136 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: kids realized they lost that battle. And then they all 137 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: started settling in. And it takes decades to really become 138 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: a cohesive whole family when you're blended like that. But 139 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: we're there and it's really wonderful. 140 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 5: And I used to say, Suzanne, Suzanne, can we go 141 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: out for dinner just the two of us without them? 142 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Alan? I feel like I feel like Roger Allen, you 143 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: might need to go play some golf. 144 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: And how do you know he plays golf. 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm going to just make the assumption tennis, golf, 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: walk talk probably play. 147 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: He's from Canada, he probably plays ice hockey. 148 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 6: And golf is not fun in those Canadian winters. 149 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: Actually in Canada. In Canada, the real crazy golfers. They 150 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: played golf in the winter time using orange balls. 151 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: Yep, I've heard that snow golf. Really Yep, snow golf. 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: Oh my god, blue balls. 153 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: I love you, guys. This is quick my favorite Osode. 155 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: He was a Canadian. He was like the Canadian Johnny Carson. 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: Man's funny. 157 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: He's better than Johnny Carson. 158 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: Come on, this is this is he? 159 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Wait you guys. So I love this story and I 160 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: do think it's kind of funny too. I just want 161 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: to point out some similarities. I love that Susanne's like, Okay, 162 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: we need to blend the kids. We need to keep 163 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: them together, We need to make this work, we need 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: to sort it out. Alan It's like, can we just 165 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: go out without any of them, which is what Roger 166 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: does all the time. 167 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: And I have and these are these are my kids. 168 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: Don't want to abandon them whenever possible, just so we're 169 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: I love them, but I do like abandonment. 170 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: But what I want to know, Hold on a second. 171 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: So you did, so it sounds like you were you 172 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: dating for those ten years before you got married. 173 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're actually living together. 174 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: God it right? 175 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: So no shake up? 176 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: Right? 177 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: So this is a question that I wanted to ask. 178 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: Do you celebrate your like first date anniversary or do 179 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: you celebrate your actual wedding anniversary? 180 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: Or you like, what about the car celeb ten years? 181 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: Like how do you how do you reconcile that? 182 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: Because a lot of people are like, oh, they just 183 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: get engaged within the year they're married, so they're like, oh, 184 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: it's our marriage, but like if you put in a decade, like, 185 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: how do you signify that? 186 00:08:59,240 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: Or do you not? 187 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: We thought a lot in that deadcake, so we like 188 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: to start with the actual wedding. 189 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: Ah, that's a new one, okay. 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: But the fighting was essential. I never knew what we 191 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: were fighting for or about. We were fighting for a 192 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: level playing field. I didn't want to be controlled and 193 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: he was very controlling, and we worked that one out and. 194 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 6: We got married when it was right. 195 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: It was in the first year of threes company, and 196 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: I just it's the best decision I've ever made. 197 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: She finally got a job, married this woman. 198 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, finally she's an er. Was like, finally 199 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: she's an earner. I'm in I love it. 200 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: I agree. 201 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 3: By the way, for those listeners out there that know 202 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: Rachel had no job when I fell in love with 203 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: her and she was living in my. 204 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: Apartment, I just graduated college. Of course they didn't have 205 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: a job. 206 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: No, most people graduate in college go into their jobs 207 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: that they. 208 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Interview for, They take time off, they travel events. 209 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 4: Yes, there was a little bit of similarities in that story. 210 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: So you guys, we waited eighteen years, we were together 211 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: eighteen years before we had kids. 212 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: Did you propose to her? I mean, this was way 213 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: back right traditional. 214 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 5: Now, Actually I did. I remember the night she had 215 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 5: just done the Dinah Shore Show and we went on 216 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: for dinner to this little French restaurant we loved. It 217 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: was on Melrose Place in la It was a tiny 218 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: place called Lit. It was time, it was sexy. The 219 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: lighting was great. It was peaceful and silent in there. 220 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: People whispered, no one made any noise. The food was great, 221 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 5: the drinks were great, and they had these pink candelabra 222 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 5: on the table, so the pink reflection on our faces 223 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: made us both look really beautiful opposed to her. I 224 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: proposed to her that night, and actually sitting at another 225 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: table very close by, was John Rickles. 226 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 227 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 5: Anyway, I did propose that night. It was great, and 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 5: thankfully she said yes. I wonder how many people say no. 229 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: I think if you are in the frame of mind 230 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: you're going to ask, you have a pretty good idea 231 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: of what the other person you hope. 232 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: You would hope, unless or unless you're completely delusional and 233 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: we don't get the. 234 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: In which case it's good to say no because they're 235 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: completely not not in the right place. 236 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 5: You know. One of our kids describes our relationship as 237 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: functionally codependent. Oh. 238 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what we are. 239 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: That's sort of us, except I would say Rachel is 240 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: a little more codependent. 241 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: Your codependent in your own way, send a more subtle I. 242 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: Could adopt, you could adopt instead of instead of you 243 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 3: making me coffee, could easily get it myself. 244 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 6: I'm teasing, Oh, don't say that, Roger. 245 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, what I mean? I say that because I get 246 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 4: the coffee. Susanne, I'm the one that gets a coffee 247 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: every morning. Starbucks. 248 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: Please, I'm not saying anything that will be taken away 249 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: from me because it doesn't exist. 250 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: I think. 251 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: I think having your coffee brought to you in the 252 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: morning is one of the reasons for a great marriage. 253 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: Call me do that. I do that, Starbucks. 254 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: But you have to admit, Honey, for the first twenty 255 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: years I was bringing it to you in bed. Now 256 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: since Starbucks has happened, he goes at six thirds. 257 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: I will say this to anyone who will hear me. 258 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: There is no one on this earth that provides like 259 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: Rachel provides for me. I'm serious, like you have like anyway, 260 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: but this is not about us. It's about you, guys. 261 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: So I want to hear about your wedding. I want 262 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: to hear about your wedding because we know that you 263 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: were together for ten years before you propose, and then 264 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: what kind of wedding because you were obviously, as you 265 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: mentioned Susanna, you were blending families, which, as we know, 266 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: and I just want to say thank you for being 267 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: very candid and honest about that, because I think not 268 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: everybody is, and it's a very complicated situation. I'm pretty 269 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: sure I don't know, I don't know any situation that 270 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: it hasn't been complicated. And I think nothing is truer 271 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: than what you said about no child wanting a new 272 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: parent because they don't know. 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: Our wedding day was one of the worst days of 274 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: my life. 275 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: Stop no, stop. 276 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: It was awful. Everything about it was awful. Why we 277 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 5: invited the wrong people? Okay, God, there. 278 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 6: Are a lot of have to invite, you know, right of. 279 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 4: Course always, So it's sort of industry, is what you're saying. 280 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it was the first year of three companies, 281 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: so I was still into pleasing everybody. And here's the 282 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: weekend the day before morally safer and the crew of 283 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: sixty minutes, when sixty minutes really meant something came to 284 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: our house, who interview me as the next Pharaoh foss 285 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: it because Parah had just left Charlie's Angels and Three's 286 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: company was now number one, And I had to go 287 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: get my hair colored. It was before I had my 288 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: style has come to the house. I hadn't learned that 289 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: stuff yet. And I went, and you know how hairdressers 290 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: always say, your blonde is a little brassy, Let me. 291 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: Tone it down a little, Yes, let me. 292 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, And I came home with brown hair. 293 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 294 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: I walked in the house with brown hair and I 295 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: hate it now and said, what have your hair? But 296 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: I've got morey safer in the living room and now 297 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to wash it out like it would wash out. 298 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: And my hair looked terrible. And I had relatives staying 299 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: at the house who I really couldn't fit because I 300 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: was still pleasing everybody at that time, and our kids 301 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: were upset. They hated the whole idea of us getting married, 302 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: and so there was just a lot, a lot of 303 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: negativity going around. 304 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 6: I was so glad when. 305 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: The day it was over, me too. And also we 306 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: had ordered two beds from what was the name of 307 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: that company? 308 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 6: Christ? 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: From Christ okay, yeah, And I said, we need these 310 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: snow later. Then I gave them a date. And so 311 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 5: the day before we're getting married, the beds still hadn't arrived, 312 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 5: and we have families staying. Was it that the house 313 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: and these are elderly people? Where they going to sleep? 314 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: So I was crazed with everything that was going on. 315 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: So I called Christ I said where are the beds? 316 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: And they gave me some answer, and basically the answer was, 317 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: we're not going to be able to deliver them. So 318 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: I said, if you don't deliver those fing beds at 319 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: the end of the day, And the next thing I knew, 320 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 5: there's a seven foot policeman at our front door. 321 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: Now I'm upstairs washing the brown out of my hair papers, 322 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: sitting in the. 323 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: Living room, and the police are at the door. 324 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: You guys, do you know what this sounds like? 325 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: A company? Sounds actually like a three's company. 326 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: It actually sounds like a great movie called like the 327 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Wedding Day. 328 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: But you know, you know who made really good friends 329 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: with Morley Safer? My mother in law of my my 330 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: husband's mother. She's a great Jewish mother and makes incredible soup, 331 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: and so she's making soup for Morley, and Morley feels 332 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: like he's back home again. 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 5: Well, mor Morley's mother and my mother know each other. 334 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god, really yeah, from Toronto, Toronto. 335 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 5: I think they both came from some some similar place 336 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: in Eastern Europe somewhere. 337 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: To get the picture of the day, I not only 338 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: have the picture, but I actually see it like it's 339 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: happening around me. 340 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: That's how clearly I really feel like this is more 341 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: of like. 342 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Roger and I are both Jewish, so we really have 343 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the Jewish scene set too, you know, like you. 344 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: Know, it's like vacation European vacation. This is like wedding vacation, like. 345 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a Steve Martin chevy Chase. 346 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: If chevy Chase is getting married, this would be his day. 347 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: My mother in law was so accepting of me being 348 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: a non Jew, she said, but the Irish are the 349 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: lost tribe of Israel. 350 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 6: So that's how I got wept into the fold. 351 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: Really, that's amazing. 352 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: You know you were asking before about celebrating anniversary anniversary, 353 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 5: and the reality is, you know, we have for the 354 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: last forty years, actually forty one years, we have not 355 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: spent one night apart. And because we're in business, we're 356 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 5: together twenty four to seven. 357 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: Same as us, same as us. 358 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 5: So we have been together constantly, non stuff for forty 359 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: one years. And every day, I'm not kidding, every day 360 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: there's some kind of celebration. Every night at five o'clock, 361 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: we both go to what Suzanne calls big Al's Bar 362 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 5: and we have a tequila. 363 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: I love that. 364 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 5: Suzanne is an incredible cook, I mean amazing. She's written 365 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 5: of her twenty seven books, nine were cookbooks and they 366 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 5: were all New York Times bestsellers. So I'm needing five 367 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: star meals. Okay, after we have our tequila cocktails. So 368 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: every day is really a celebration. So when it comes 369 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: to celebrating dates, it's like, I don't know what else 370 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: we could do. 371 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, my birthday was last weekend birthday day, so with Walters. 372 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Wait what did oh wait what time? Oh? So you're 373 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: a Libra lib Roger birthday. 374 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm the first September first. 375 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry, I'm September thirtieth. 376 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: You're September one, Yes, exactly. 377 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: Actually, you know, actually the day she turned seventy five 378 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 5: was a very special day for me. 379 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 6: Last weekend. 380 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the birthday. 381 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the first time in my life I 382 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 5: had ever slept with a seventy five year old. 383 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 4: I love that. 384 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Can I just say something officially, this is my 385 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: favorite we gotta put this on the website, like favorite 386 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: episode ever ever ever. As a CEO fashion authority and mom, 387 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I know it's the details that truly matter, and when 388 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: it comes to luxury, every stitch must be perfectly tailored. 389 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: That's why driving the Sleek Genesis GV eighty is such 390 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: a luxurious experience. The SUV's exterior design, including two line 391 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: led headlamps, exudes athletic elegance. When you sit inside the 392 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: expansive GV eighty cabin, you can customize the ambient interior 393 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: lighting to match your current mood, a feature that makes 394 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: driving in La a more relaxed and serene experience. So 395 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, take a close look at the Genesis GV 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: eighty and you'll see lux is in the details. Can 397 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: I just tell you, guys areily our heroes. 398 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 4: But by the way, a couple of things, you. 399 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: And Roger are going to be best friends. 400 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: At approximately five o'clock, I also go over to said 401 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: liquor cabinet and I more I go for tang Gray 402 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: ten because I like tangray and I like chin. 403 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: But that's what I have. 404 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: I have wine and wine and. 405 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 4: Rache's wine, so we kind of do that too and chill. 406 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: But the one thing I will really I'm just I 407 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: really got to ask, you've never spent a night away 408 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: from your wife? 409 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: Like, what about like boys trips? 410 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: Does that know? I've never had a night out with 411 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 5: a boy. Oh, actually I had one son Bruce, I 412 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 5: don't know, forty years ago was into wine, and even 413 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 5: though I had a substantial wine cellar, I never really 414 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: understood wine. And he said, well, we're doing a wine 415 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 5: tasting and it's gonna be in Beverly Hills, and actually 416 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 5: it's under the street, and there's some wine thing under 417 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: the street. He said, why don't you come with me? 418 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 5: So I went with them, and everyone brought their favorite 419 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 5: bottle of wine. And I'm sitting there with eight other 420 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: guys and there's I hear things like, hmmm, it has 421 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: licorice notes. 422 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: What you were like miserable? 423 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the only That was the only time 424 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 5: I've ever had a night out with the boys. Never 425 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: do it again. 426 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 7: We go out with couples, saying couples that like each other. 427 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, there are a lot of similarities. 428 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: Can I tell you something? You guys, Roger and I 429 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: we constantly say my friends because we're almost never apart 430 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: really like, I mean maybe two to four nights in 431 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: a year. He'll like go on a golf night with 432 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: his friends or whatever. But we always say the biggest 433 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: challenge of our lives is finding couples that are strong, 434 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: that like we love spending time with where they really 435 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: like each other still that that's a huge challenge, And 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's a challenge for you, because I'm thinking, 437 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: if we're, you know, thirty years in and you guys 438 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: are fifty years in, it's got to be challenging sometimes 439 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: to find, like I know, Suzanne. For me, like so 440 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: many of my girlfriends never go out with their husbands, 441 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: and I always want to go out with my husband. 442 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 6: Too, me too. 443 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: I think I think our nightly date it adds so 444 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: much to our relationship because we both are doing our thing. 445 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: I sit and write all day and he's he he 446 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: runs the business part of our business. I shut down 447 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: at five o'clock and we sit together and. 448 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 6: We relax and we talk. 449 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: In fact, the last residency I had in Vegas was 450 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago at the Westgate. I had 451 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: my own room, and I was really looking forward to 452 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: it because I had performed in Vegas for a couple 453 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: of decades, always in big shows, you know, twelve dancers 454 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: and twenty five orchestras. But the act I always loved 455 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: the most was whenever we would go to see Sinatra. 456 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 6: I love I. 457 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: Loved him walking out, king drink in his band and 458 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: the relaxed tie on his tuxedo, and he had he 459 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: had a big band, but sometimes he he loved loved 460 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: saloon gigs where he had a small band. So I 461 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: put together a six piece band of my favorite musicians 462 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: that I've worked with over the years, and at our 463 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: big Al's bar, Alan and I put the act together. 464 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 2: I would sing to him something and you know, when 465 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: you're sharing a tequility, get real loose. And it was very, 466 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: very honest. And you know, when I mounted that show, 467 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 2: which Alan produced, I got the greatest reviews of my 468 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 2: entire career in Vegues. In fact, the headline was Vegas 469 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: is Back. 470 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 6: And I think what they were Shae was no long 471 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 6: This was not a big electronics show. 472 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: I walked out and you know, you sing a song 473 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: and then he talked, and you pick up the energy 474 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: of the room and you can kind of pick up 475 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: the feeling of how up there, how down they are, 476 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: and how much you got to do to get them 477 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: right in that zone. And it was a challenge every 478 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: night for me to talk to them in a way 479 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: that if I got this compliment after the show, I 480 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: knew I succeeded when people would say to me, I 481 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: felt like you were talking just to me, and that's 482 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: what I was trying to do, and clearly. 483 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: You did it, Suzanne, because I just would like to 484 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: share with our listeners that you were named Las Vegas 485 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: Female Entertainer of the Year in nineteen eighty six, which 486 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: is a really big deal. Along God, that's no big 487 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: deal as. 488 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 6: Male entertainer and I was female entertainer. 489 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 4: So cool. 490 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: That is maybe one of the coolest things. 491 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 4: That's insane I ever heard. 492 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Oh see, after that, I would be like, I'm done, 493 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: I can retire. It can't get better than this, right, 494 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean you know. 495 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: Sinatra was a friend of ours, both Frank and Barbara, 496 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: and we lived. We lived very close to one another 497 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 5: and we would We didn't see them often, but when 498 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: we did it was a very special time. And so 499 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: we went to Frank's last performance at the McCallum Theater 500 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 5: in Palm Springs and it was it was a very 501 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: sad experience because it was the end of his professional 502 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 5: life and he needed assistance to remember the lyrics to 503 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: songs he had sung all his life. And then afterwards 504 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 5: he and Barbara invited us back to their home and 505 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 5: they were about a dozen other people, and Frank always 506 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: loved having music around him. So we had a little 507 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: trio laying and they were serving cocktails, and so went 508 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: I went to the bathroom, and when I came back, 509 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: Suzanne is now singing with the trio. You've got balls 510 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: of stealing in Frank Sinatra's hut to Frank Sinatra. 511 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: If I can't think of anybody who would like that 512 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: more than Frank. Yeah, he's a He's an entertainer, and 513 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm an entertainer. And so you do what you do. 514 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: You do what you do, You do what you do, 515 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: You do what you do. 516 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: And so you mentioned Susan that Allan runs the business part, 517 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: how did you did you like, wake up one day 518 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 3: and decide to do it together? 519 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: Or how did that? How did that genesis? 520 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: Because that's the other question we get asked, how do 521 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: you do business together? 522 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: And you got sick of each other? 523 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: Tell you to kill each other wise. We all know, 524 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 4: and we tell people it's the best. We roll around 525 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: a business. 526 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: Tre never have to leave each other. 527 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 4: Our business trips are us. It's amazing, it's fun. 528 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I've always I've always had a business 529 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 5: of one kind or another. And this our business started 530 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 5: the day she was fired from threes company. And the 531 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 5: reason she was fired was because she wanted to be 532 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: paid what the men were making. They had lesser shows, 533 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 5: and they were making ten to fifteen times more money. 534 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 5: And so I went in to negotiate the dealt the 535 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 5: contract was up. What we did not know was that 536 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 5: Laverne and Shirley had gone in. Their contract was up 537 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 5: a month before, and they had gone in the two 538 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 5: together and had negotiated the most incredible deal for themselves 539 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: to continue doing the show. And the parent company of 540 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 5: ABC decided, you know what, we have to stop women 541 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 5: from asking to be paid what the men are making. 542 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: So let's fire it. The biggest female star in television, 543 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 5: and no woman will ask to be paid what the 544 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: men are making. And it worked for eight years. Wow, 545 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 5: not one woman except until Roseanne came along. And Rosanne 546 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: is fearless. And we know Rozanne really well. She used 547 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: to open Suzanne in Vegas, and she went into ABC. 548 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: She put a one page treatment on the table for 549 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 5: the show Roseanne. They looked at it, they said, we 550 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 5: love it, we want to do it, and she said, great, 551 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 5: I want to be paid seven hundred and fifty thousand 552 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 5: dollars a week to start, and they laughed at her, 553 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 5: and she picked up the page and started moving toward 554 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: the elevator and they looked at each other and said, 555 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 5: what are we crazy? And they hired her and she 556 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 5: was the first woman to break through. And then after that, 557 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 5: I mean, you know the deal that Friends made. 558 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: And said, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. 559 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: And anyway, in today's environment, you couldn't get away with 560 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: not paying women parody. 561 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Right for what it's worth. When you were gone, I 562 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: stopped watching. 563 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: Of course everybody did. 564 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: Like the thing went in the garbage. 565 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 5: Ego always spoils the best deals. Okay, it's sometimes money, 566 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 5: but it's it's usually ego. And the main producer said 567 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: to when ABC went to them and said this is 568 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: what we want to do, he said to them, not 569 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 5: a problem. I'll just bring in another blonde, a trainer 570 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 5: like a seal, and we'll just carry on. And as 571 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 5: you know, they brought in not just one blonde, but 572 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: two blondes, and unfortunately they didn't live up to what 573 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 5: Christy snow was on the show because it was about chemistry, 574 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: chemistry with John and chemistry with Joyce to wit. So 575 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: unfortunately the guy from Cat's Television, which I think is 576 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 5: some kind of distribution situation for independent TV. He said 577 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 5: to me one day at a convention. He said, Suzanne 578 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 5: being fired from Three's Company was the greatest self inflicted 579 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 5: wound in the history of television, and the producers and 580 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 5: the distributor lost well over one billion dollars by doing it. 581 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 582 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 583 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: When I was on threes company, A Allen and I, 584 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: being business minded, we talked to them about. 585 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 6: You know, Christy Snow know it has a look. 586 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: We should do a line of clothing of hot pants 587 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: and suspense, infinitely, moon socks and slip on, you know, 588 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: snap on ponytails and do the whole thing. And the producer, 589 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: who I have a little bit of a story about, 590 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: so this is not a show about business, it's about 591 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: the show, and I thought this is called show business, 592 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: said Christy Snow should have an animated Saturday morning cartoon show. 593 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 6: And then another time we went. 594 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: In and said Christy Snow should be a movie star the 595 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: Adventures of Chrissy Snow. I mean he could see where 596 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: all the little girls would come see the Adventures of 597 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: Chrissy snow. 598 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 5: But also one day I got a call from Steven Spielberg. 599 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: He said, would be okay if I came over to 600 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 5: your house and spoke with Suzanne about a role in 601 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 5: a film that I'm doing. So he came over on 602 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 5: a Saturday afternoon and the two of them sat up 603 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: on the roof. We were living on the beach in 604 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: Venice in those days, and they spent most of the 605 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 5: afternoon together, and then he offered her the role, and 606 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 5: it meant that Three's Company would have to start production 607 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: a week later than with scheduled. And they said, absolutely not. 608 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 5: We don't care who it is and we're not starting 609 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: a week later. So that was that. So then the 610 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 5: following year, we get a call from Dustin Hoffmann's agent 611 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: who says, Dustin is doing a movie. He's got a 612 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: great part for Suzanne and would you guys come to 613 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 5: New York and meet with Dustin. So we go to 614 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: New York and Suzanne meets with Dustin and again they 615 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 5: would the schedule for Three's Company would have to move 616 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 5: by a week. They said absolutely, And I said, you 617 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: guys are crazy. 618 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: I said, do you understand, like what this is going 619 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: to do for the show? And everything else. 620 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 5: They really never got it. They were stuck and. 621 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 6: These were but I think it also was there was 622 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 6: another complication. 623 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: The producers were Nichols, Ross and West and Micky Ross. 624 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: When I came into the show, uh, you know, I 625 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: had been discovered by Johnny Carson, and that's kind of 626 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: a wonderful story. But I really had no acting experience, 627 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: and so I said on day one of the show, 628 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: I just want you to know that I've never really 629 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: studied acting, although I had the lead in Guys and 630 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: Dolls in high school. 631 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 5: To the cast and the production through on the first day. 632 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 7: You guys, you can hear, of course, but what I 633 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 7: was wanting to say was I got I was the 634 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 7: Adelaide and Guys and Dolls, and Walter Winchell heard about 635 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 7: this high school production and came. 636 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: Walter Winchell was at that time like the most famous 637 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: radio show guy when radio shows were few and far between, 638 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: and he had a specific look. He wore a tan 639 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: raincoat and a pork pie hat. 640 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 6: And so Damon. 641 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: Runyon, who wrote Guys and Dolls, wrote one of the 642 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: lead characters fashioned on Walter Winchell. So Walter Winchell had 643 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: heard about this high school production and came on closing night. 644 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: At the end of the show, I don't know who 645 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: he is. The drama teacher asked us all to sit 646 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: down on the stage and introduces Walter Winchell comes up 647 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: on stage and comes right to me and says, you're 648 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: going someplace, sister. And because of that, I got a scholarship. 649 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: But then I got good Castle Girl. I got pregnant 650 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: within months, the first time I. 651 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 6: Ever had sex. That's another whole story. So now I'm 652 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 6: back in the Bree's Company, the. 653 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: Three's Company rehearsal hall day one. I say, I never 654 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: have but I got the leading guys and dolls, and 655 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: I could feel the darkness come over the room, and 656 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 2: I said, but I'm a real fast learner, which I 657 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: by the way. So this guy, Nicky Ross took. 658 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 6: Me under his wing. 659 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 2: Like remember maybe you don't, but in the Olympics there 660 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 2: was Nadya Kominicch and her coach. 661 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 6: She would do a. 662 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: Flip and a turn, then she'd looked at him for 663 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 2: approval and to give. 664 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 6: Her a thumbs up or a thought. Yeah, that's how 665 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 6: I worked with this guy. He was an old villain. 666 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: He taught me a lot and it wasn't too long 667 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: after that. I didn't realize that during this time I 668 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: was working with him, working with him, that he had 669 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: fallen in. 670 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 6: Love with me. 671 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: I kind have told you that. 672 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: So I didn't realize it, and I was very still naive. 673 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: And in the middle of year two, I was watching 674 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: John Ritter and I went, oh, I get it. Comedy 675 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: is musical. I'm musical. It's set up, set up beat. 676 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: I totally understood the rhythm of bouncing the line back 677 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: to John and we got so good at that, like 678 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: a ping pong ball. 679 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: Right. 680 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: So I say to Vicky. 681 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: Ross, this guy who had fallen in love with me, 682 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 2: unbeknownst to me, I'm going to marry Allan Hamel Well, 683 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 2: a darkness came over him and he told me I 684 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: was crazy and I'm going to ruin my career and 685 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: how could you and all that, and from that moment 686 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: on he did everything he could to sabotage me. So 687 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: when Alan went in to renegotiate six years later, guess 688 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: who renegotiated with and the agency lawyers Nicky Foss, and 689 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Alan told them, as he repeats to me, you know, 690 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: Suzanne's been on fifty five national magazine covers most every year. 691 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: She has her own specials, She's been on everybody else's specials. 692 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 2: She's in demand, she's number one demographics, and the men 693 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: are being paid fifteen times more. So she'd like to 694 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: be paid what the highest paid man is. Mickey Ross 695 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: stands up. He's smoking a cigarette the way someone would 696 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: smoke a joint, and he puts the cigarette on the 697 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 2: floor and stomps it out, walks over to Alan's chair, 698 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: leans over him and says, you want. 699 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 6: Me to share my blood with her? And Alan said yes, 700 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 6: and I was fired. 701 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Wow, that is a story. 702 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 5: I was only in there for less than five minutes, so. 703 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: At that time there were no cell phones. So I'm 704 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: waiting for Alan to come home. The night before, he 705 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: had gotten a call from someone at the cfo's office 706 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: in at ABC in New York and said he didn't 707 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: hear this from me, but they're going to hang a 708 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: nun in the marketplace and it's going to be Suzanne. 709 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 6: In the morning. 710 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: When Alan left, he opened the front door uncharacteristically said 711 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: look back at me. He said, you know this could 712 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: all blow out of the water. I said, no, it's 713 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 2: a negotiation. You asked for this, we counter you counter 714 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: will you make in the middle, and it's all going 715 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: be great. So I'm waiting at home, and I'm waiting 716 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: and waiting, and it's. 717 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 6: About three hours. 718 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: And there's a way the front door opens when it's 719 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: good news, and there's a way it opens when it's 720 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: bad news. 721 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: So true. 722 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: So the door opens real slow, and I hear him 723 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: slowly padding up the stairs. So I met him at 724 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: the landing and he looked at me and he said, 725 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: you're out. I said I'm out. He said yeah, he 726 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 2: said they fired you within five minutes. And then he 727 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 2: took me by the shoulders and he said, we're going 728 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: to make this work for us, and we did. He 729 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: had a plan, and he made my deal in Vegas 730 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: for me, because if the public couldn't see me on 731 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: the air, they scouted my showrooms. And that's probably why 732 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: I became Entertainer of the Year. And then I loved 733 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: I loved live performing so much that I didn't care 734 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: if I ever went back to TV. And then during 735 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: the day, when you're on the road with a nightclub act, 736 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: I had nothing to do, and so I started writing books. 737 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: And so twenty seven of them, is that correct? 738 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 739 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane. I've written two and I'm like just 740 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: now coming around to thinking about a third. What people 741 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: I think don't understand about writing books is they are 742 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: labors of love. They are are so much work and 743 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: soul that go that are poured into a book. So 744 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: twenty seven of them is just unreal. I just need 745 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: to point that out. 746 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: Whereas we're talking about all negatives are opportunities. 747 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 5: This is part of the success of our marriage, okay, 748 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 5: saying yes. 749 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: Happy happy wife, happy life. 750 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 5: And the other thing that works in our marriage is 751 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 5: Soona she opens her eyes in the morning, I wake 752 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 5: up before she does. I wait for her to wake up. 753 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 5: Soon as she opens her eyes, I say I'm sorry, 754 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, okay, And that's until around two or three 755 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 5: o'clock and then I say it again, and that takes 756 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 5: me through the cocktail of time. So that's one of 757 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 5: the big where was I. 758 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 6: This is Alan lying? 759 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 4: Okay, This is my father Alan. 760 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, my dad. My parents been together 761 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: fifty five years. They're celebrating this Thanksgiving, and my dad 762 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: would probably say the same thing. 763 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 6: Look, how look how your relationship is marrying that? 764 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 5: Oh, there's the front door Susan, that's your guy. That's 765 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 5: my it guy. 766 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 6: I'll finish the interview. 767 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 5: Okay, you finished there. 768 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: So Susan, thank you, thank you. 769 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 4: He's gone all right, We're going all right. 770 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 3: So it's going to be hard playing the newlywed game 771 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: with aland but it's okay. 772 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 4: So what's your advice? 773 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Alan is starting to allude to it, 774 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 3: but I think most of the people that listen really 775 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 3: want to know, like how do I get what they have? 776 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: And I guess the question is, you know, what are 777 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: the secrets or what are the learnings. 778 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: I think it's simple. We give each other a lot 779 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 2: of attention. He must tell me I'm beautiful twenty times 780 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: a day. I probably say the same thing to him. 781 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: I love to look at him, he loves to look 782 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 2: at me. We love everything about each other, and we 783 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: tell each other all the time. So you're just constantly 784 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 2: feeling reaffirmed, and you feel great about yourself and great 785 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: for one another's self esteem. 786 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 6: And then I feed him well. 787 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 3: By the way, this is that's pretty similar, although Rachel doesn't. 788 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: I told you you look the best now that you've 789 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: ever looked. I tell you that all the time. He's 790 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: a six pack. This is Oh, you're so sweet. 791 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 4: I do tell Rachel, she's. 792 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: Every single day, every single day for twenty years career. Rachel, 793 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: really thank you. 794 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 6: Your name has been out there for so long. 795 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate that coming from you. It 796 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: means so much because you're such a hero. I can't 797 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: thank you enough. We can't thank you enough for taking 798 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: the time. You are literally a champions inspiration though business. 799 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 4: You know, also business. 800 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: I mean obviously you're so successful and you did on 801 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: your own terms, which I love, and that's the real 802 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 3: key takeaway. 803 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: And you've got to be a warrior in this business. 804 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 2: I don't mean argumentative as a warrior, just strong and 805 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: tough and when the big fisk comes you, you. 806 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 6: Know you turn left. 807 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: Our careers are cyclical and that they're high and low 808 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: and high and low. 809 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 6: It's real easy in the high times, real easy. 810 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: But it's the load times that is your greatest opportunity 811 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: because you finally have time to think. And in all 812 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: of my load times, I've just used them to rethink 813 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: what it is that I'm doing and where I can 814 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: take it. 815 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 4: Well. 816 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you again because you are 817 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: really like no and I feel I feel changed as 818 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: a person. 819 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 4: I agree. 820 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: I feel We're going to start reading one of your 821 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty seven books. 822 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 3: This week, just so you're aware, I'm going to read 823 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 3: it to Rachel because she's not really going to. 824 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 4: Read the book. 825 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: I'm totally reading her books on it. There's books on tape, right. 826 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: You're thanking you, Thank you so much, seriously, I'm blown away. 827 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm changed as a person. 828 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: I feel like I just had a spiritual experience. I 829 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 3: feel somewhat cleanse some I just feel smarter. 830 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: I feel stronger. I feel like an invincible woman. I 831 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: feel like that was the happiest marriage I've ever seen 832 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: in my life. 833 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: I think that might be our number one marriage so far. 834 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: Can we just aim for that? Because they're twenty years 835 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: ahead of us in marriage, and they're exactly twenty years 836 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: ahead of us in being together. They're fifty years together 837 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: and forty four years married. So can we aim for this? 838 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: Let's plan, am my baby, Let's I have a cock cocktail? 839 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 4: Well we do that. 840 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: You keep telling me I'm beautiful, Let's not. Let's not 841 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: fail in that. I have to tell you you're beautiful more. Obviously, 842 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: that's o that I own that I own that I 843 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: own it. Just quite while you're head. Don't make a comment. 844 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to tell you, honey, actions speak louder 845 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 3: than words. 846 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 4: So rather than. 847 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Say it, I just said I own it. Now you're 848 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: going to ruin it now, I'm not. 849 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 4: Going to want to do it. Show me how much 850 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 4: you love. 851 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: Me, snooze. 852 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 3: So anyway, by the way, let's just we just they 853 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: work together and. 854 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 4: Just give out the due that he deserves. I mean, 855 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 4: he is the man. 856 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he was like Frank Sinatcho. 857 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 3: But he's like, I'm overcounted. I'm just gonna, you know, 858 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: zip down into like la. Oh by the way, I'm 859 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 3: just like, oh, the most beautiful woman in la. Yep, 860 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 3: there we go. And it's like amazing. I think he's 861 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 3: like the man. 862 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 4: And he's so smart business smart. 863 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 3: I mean, they're just smart together, you know, I think 864 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 3: they I think they It's funny. It's like sort of 865 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 3: like you and I like we're kind of smarter together 866 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 3: because we can, you know, not sort of like you 867 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: got two fronts. You got the creative front and the 868 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 3: business front at the same time, and you know, as 869 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 3: long as you're aligned, like they certainly are. 870 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 4: It seems like you get some more strength from that. 871 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: I could have literally spoken to them until tomorrow. I 872 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: agree like there, I had so many more questions, thous. 873 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 4: More and we didn't even play the newlywed game with them. 874 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: That we don't even need it. I feel like they're 875 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: living the new you. 876 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 4: Know, it's amazing. 877 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: Well you know what, they would actually get everything right, 878 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: it would be annoying. 879 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: But also like the irony for me is that Chrissy 880 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: Snow if you think about the irony of her life, 881 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: how it turned out, and what the character she played was. 882 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: Because she played this like beautiful, ditsy blonde character, and 883 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: she's the polar opposite of ditsy. 884 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: She lectured to six thousand doctors, I'm pretty sure you 885 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 3: can't be a. 886 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: Dumb dumb exactly twenty seven books? Did I repeat twenty 887 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: seven books? Thigh Master. 888 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 3: They're crushing it, and it's not like they're out there 889 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 3: being like, oh, we're crushing it. 890 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: They're just quiet and happy. I love it. Good for them. 891 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: I have to say that episode. I've loved all of 892 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: our episodes, but I'm just gonna go with this might 893 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: be my favorite. 894 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 4: So there's also a ton of nostalgia because you know, 895 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 4: I just. 896 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: Touch Frank Sinatra. She performed and they were Fred Frank Sinatra. 897 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 4: Up with Frank Sinatra and many of them. 898 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: You know how chic that is? Oh my god, what 899 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: do you think they were wearing? 900 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 4: I didn't even get to ask that question. I wanted 901 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 4: to ask what are they wearing? 902 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask Alan what she was wearing his 903 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 3: first first time he saw her, if. 904 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: He remembered, But I guarantee you here remember I'm sure 905 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: he did that. But I also do you know what 906 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: else I loved? I have to say before before I 907 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: move on. I loved how candid they were. I loved 908 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: how honest they were, unapologetically honest. They weren't hiding anything. 909 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: They were fully everything was on the table this day. 910 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 3: It's funny the way he said when she was fired, 911 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 3: like it's a very like most people like wouldn't even 912 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 3: use those words. 913 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 4: It's just so transparent. 914 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't like sugar, but no, this what happened, is 915 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 3: what we did about that, and this is what we 916 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 3: learned from it. 917 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 4: It was like, I agree, so refreshing. 918 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: But wouldn't you agree that our lowest points have been 919 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: have changed us and made us Like, for me, my 920 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: lowest points of my life and career made me better 921 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: and stronger because I refocused and really like it gives 922 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: you that time to really think you right. 923 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 3: That's I mean in a weird way, That's kind of 924 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: what COVID did for a lot of people is how 925 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 3: are we going to reinvent ourselves? I agree, what's the 926 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: next version of ourselves? And do we want to be 927 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: this version for the next ten years? And I think 928 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people thought about that and said, hmmm, 929 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 3: maybe not. 930 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: But I loved how honest she was about blending families 931 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: because I think not that many people are that honest 932 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: about that and how hard that is actually, you know, 933 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: and I really appreciated that. 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