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Speaker 2: Let's give this.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio?

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Speaker 1: Is he? It just dawned on me that we don't

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Speaker 1: have a Bleacher Report list to go to anymore for

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Speaker 1: the final segment?

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Speaker 4: What are we gonna do for the last segment? Should

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Speaker 4: we just leave?

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Speaker 1: Let Dan buyer phill it? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, just come up with any list, Dan, We'll

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Speaker 4: be fine.

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Speaker 1: We can play odds and ends. Oh, I would love to.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you play two games when we were away one day?

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Speaker 1: I thought you played two two different games? New games?

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Speaker 1: Games I've never heard of, Dan, I got a whole

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Speaker 1: reppencewass too? Are you really? Yes? Yeah? What's your favorite one?

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Speaker 1: We do a newlywed game? That's fun? Oh wow? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the Neighborhood's another fun one? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Buyer or seller? It's when that Taylor just came up?

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Speaker 4: How do we not play that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Every trade deadline of every sport and buyer or seller.

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Speaker 5: We've done a buyer beware yeah, but buyer or seller yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you realize you're stable. Your last name, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's right there for you, I know. So I'll

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Speaker 1: prepare one for tomorrow's torry.

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Speaker 5: It's been the previous twenty years I've been on radio

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Speaker 5: as well, just hasn't been fully fleshed out yet.

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Speaker 1: I got it. Well buy or sell the newly would

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Speaker 1: game because your name is Fire Yeah, well right, I know,

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Speaker 1: i'd it's second to Dan the man.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for saying fleshed out instead of flushed out

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Speaker 4: like some dummies do.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fleshed out right, and it is.

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Speaker 1: Well I said it once and then everyone it was

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Speaker 1: it was Levator. The entire crew like yelled at me

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Speaker 1: saying it's flushed out. I just love toilets over there,

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Speaker 1: all right, give me the imaging. I was Sam because

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Speaker 1: it's a mount rushmore Monday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you there, Yeah, you the guy with the spreadsheet

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Speaker 3: pretending to work. Do you find yourself needing up picking

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Speaker 3: up as you're dragging in your cubicle to start the week?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready to put the sports back in sports talk. Well,

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Speaker 3: then you're in luck because every Monday we climb the mountain,

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Speaker 3: we call the legends, and we argue about things. You

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Speaker 3: want the truth.

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Speaker 4: You can't handle the.

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Speaker 3: Truth that absolutely do not matter and are completely subjective.

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Speaker 3: This is Mount rush More Monday.

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Speaker 1: Monday, Taylor, we'll explain in a second. I love good imaging.

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Speaker 1: I love radio. Why is there a power droll in

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Speaker 1: the middle of that? Howard?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're carving into Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but something explodes in the middle. Play

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Speaker 1: one more time. I was saying, just one more time thing. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it again.

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Speaker 4: It's so good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you the guy with the spreadsheet pretending to work.

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Speaker 3: Do you find yourself needing a picking up as you're

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Speaker 3: dragging and your cubicle start a week? Are you ready

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Speaker 3: to put the sports back in sports talk? Well then

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Speaker 3: you're in luck because every Monday we climb the mountain.

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Speaker 3: We call the legends, and we argue about things. You

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Speaker 3: want the truth. You can't handle the truth that absolutely

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Speaker 3: do not matter and are completely subjective. This is Mouth

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Speaker 3: rush More Monday, Monday.

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Speaker 4: I think we need to make a new one, something

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Speaker 4: more ethic. My favorite part when he says, you want

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Speaker 4: to put the sports back in the sports talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh great.

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Speaker 4: And guess if it's just been about like vaccines and

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Speaker 4: gender reaffirmation or something like that all these years.

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Speaker 1: Then here pads colliding right after. Yes, that's what it's

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Speaker 7: So the topic today for Mount Rushmore Monday, in honor

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Speaker 7: of March Madness. It's gonna be March Madness icon icons. Okay,

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Speaker 7: so we it's for people just joining us as a reminder.

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Speaker 7: It's a snake draft. I randomized the order. Ricardo was

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Speaker 7: there to see it. The order is Taylor first, Stu

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Speaker 7: second of Mikey Thirdzy fourth. I hate the first pick

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Speaker 7: here because I'm a lot more comfortable. I don't really

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Speaker 1: I think there is a clear one A. I hope

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Speaker 1: because I'm judging. I've never wanted to.

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Speaker 5: I was going to say last week the golden ticket

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Speaker 5: was Jack Morris, right, like, you're going to be a

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Speaker 1: The goods.

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Speaker 4: So there is a name, and remind me where you're from.

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Speaker 4: Originally born and raised in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Important question, YEP.

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Speaker 7: I would rather lose this draft than pander to Dan Biden.

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Speaker 2: Taylor on you so bad, Taylor, and just have him

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Speaker 2: ask you all sorts of questions because I don't get

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Speaker 1: So we're just gonna wing it.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk to Taylor's defense, he said, He

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Speaker 4: said March madness icon. So it's not just somebody who

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Speaker 4: had a great march in some other sport. You can't

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Speaker 4: get sneaky like that. It's very specific March madness.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Taylor you're first.

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Speaker 6: I'm up first.

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Speaker 7: I don't really have a clear one, but this guy

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Kemba Walker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good choice. All right, I'm gonna get one

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Speaker 1: of my top two at least, Stu. You're on the clock,

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Speaker 1: all right. I'm gonna take Danny Manning. Danny Manning took

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Speaker 1: maybe the worst the worst team you've ever seen, if

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Speaker 1: not for Danny Manning to an NCAA championship. They won

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Speaker 1: the championship with Kansas. Dan Manning went on and had

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Speaker 1: a decent NBA career, but he is remembered for that

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Speaker 1: one run through March Madness. So I'll go Danny Manning here,

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Speaker 1: who's up next? Taylor?

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Speaker 6: Mikey's up next, all right, and then he's going to

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Speaker 6: have back to back picks.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Oh I hate that's so.

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Speaker 2: Taylor was clear that it had to be you had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't combine those, right, it has to be specifically.

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Speaker 4: Their March run was iconic on its own.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna take Kareem Abdul Jabbar. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to take Luel Sinder.

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Speaker 1: Yeh wow, yeah, right, I'm done.

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Speaker 6: He was playing against plumbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all right, so I got back to

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Speaker 1: back here, show that man some respect. It's Kareem, It's

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Speaker 1: Leuel Cinder. Sorry, good career.

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Speaker 4: I think I know who's going to come back around

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Speaker 4: take two absolute March Madness icons, which immediately he puts

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Speaker 4: me in the lead. Carmelo Anthony. He had one shot

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Speaker 4: of it. And going back around Brianna Stewart, who won

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Speaker 4: Clearly I'm in the lead here. Good job by you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a March madness moment. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 2: Christian Lightner.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's such a great pick is

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Speaker 4: because of what you said, even though you're number one.

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Speaker 4: Pick was the exact opposite of separating their pro career

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you right now that so great. No duke

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Speaker 7: Really mouse shocking, yep ye, no trading Landon.

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Speaker 4: No Tradan didn't do that much. It would have been, like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not even Zion would have to have been somebody

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Speaker 4: who just led them to a championship trading.

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Speaker 6: Okay, ste Guts, you're on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had to change my strategy here based on

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Speaker 1: picks the game right before me. No one took Larry Bird, right, Nope,

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Speaker 4: Reminder he lost in the National champion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he made it to the National Championship with

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Speaker 1: Indiana States.

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Speaker 4: Yes, terre Hote, And.

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Speaker 1: When I think of Larry Bird, the first thing I

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Speaker 1: think of is that run through the NCAA tournament with

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Speaker 1: Indiana State. I mean there was a book written. I

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Speaker 1: think he didn't write the book though he missed his opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take Larry Legend. I will take Larry Bird.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Larry Bird the runner up in the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 4: nine National Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, right, Lits said I left magic out there for somebody.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, So now I have back to back

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Speaker 7: picks here.

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Speaker 6: The first pick a b YU Legend.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, why are you so hard for Jimmer?

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Speaker 1: Is he? If you think that's a reach, that's a great,

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Speaker 1: great pick. Taylor, what did he do.

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Speaker 4: Exactly in March? Why is he an icon? Because we

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Speaker 4: knew who he was and then he played in March.

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Speaker 7: We play March Madness tournaments for moments like Jimmer for debt?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well give me his favorite, give me his best moment.

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Speaker 6: Hitting a lot of threes.

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Speaker 1: Check me. You could go like Bryce Drew if you're

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Speaker 1: going to go that route. I mean, but what he

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Speaker 1: didn't win anything Jimmer for debts because he was on

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Speaker 1: he was on b YU. Put him on Kentucky and

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Speaker 1: they're putting down that Larry Bird was on Indiana State.

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Speaker 1: He took him to the NCAA Final.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Larry Bird is such a better pick than Jimmer.

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Speaker 7: For you ask people who's more synonymous with March Madness,

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Speaker 7: Larry Bird or Jimmer for debt.

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Speaker 6: Everybody and their mother.

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Speaker 4: Would ask such a ridiculous question.

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Speaker 1: You are absolutely correct.

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Speaker 2: If you say tell me something about Larry Bird, they're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: They're going to talk about you. Say tell me something

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Speaker 1: about Jimmer for debt. They're gonna say march Man, thank you.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna talk about things that happened in December, January,

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Speaker 4: and February. Definitely not match March madness. He does not

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Speaker 4: have the tournament bona fide.

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Speaker 1: I mean no respect for Bird. The reason Jim Orfer

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Speaker 7: I mean, I've got another pick here coming up to

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Speaker 7: start round three. Yeah, go ahead, I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 7: sister Jean.

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Speaker 4: Wow, talk about Johnny come Lately over here.

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Speaker 1: I means unbelievable, mister, I'm not helping you out anymore.

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Speaker 4: Taylor, I mean carving this into a mountain.

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Speaker 1: If she's on your side, I mean, you make it

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Speaker 1: to the final four and she takes all the credit

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 7: God rests Sister Jean's soul again, what March madness is about? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: a none from the Chicago suburbs, captivating America's heart as

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Speaker 7: an improbable loyal Chicago team goes on a Final four

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Speaker 7: run by Sister Jean, Yeah by.

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Speaker 4: Just to show her a good time. But she is

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Speaker 4: not going to be carved into a mountain.

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Speaker 5: She could be carved into the side of the Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 5: Just sitting courtside, sitting Mount Rushmore side.

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Speaker 2: He's looking at the Mount Rushmore, carved into a separate

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Speaker 2: rod like in the stands.

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Speaker 1: She got your pick. We said there could be coaches,

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Speaker 1: right yep, of course, all right, I'm gonna go jim Valvano.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Jimmy v There took that North Carolina Stay team,

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Speaker 4: Had I picked Jimmy v second instead of Brianna Stewart,

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Speaker 4: would you guys have left me Brianna Stewart on this

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Speaker 4: back end?

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Speaker 1: I was going to take her, were you. Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, That's why I said good pick by you. Seriously,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna take her either way, I thought I

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Speaker 4: was going to get high, all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, Yeah, you're up.

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Speaker 2: You know what again, I'm gonna go to a specific

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Speaker 1: Chris Webber.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, huh wow.

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Speaker 1: It's a great one.

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Speaker 3: Really seriously.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, technical foul, technical foul.

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Speaker 1: That's an icon though, I mean it makes him a dope,

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Speaker 1: It's makes him an icon.

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Speaker 4: So Stu Gotts has the guy who lost in the

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Speaker 4: National Championship game in nineteen seventy nine to a p

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Speaker 4: potentially more popular player. Yeah, Taylor has Jimmer for dead,

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Speaker 4: who didn't win a damn thing. And now Mikey's got

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Speaker 4: Chris Webber, whose most famous March moment was a technical

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Speaker 4: right you remember it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, kon So I was with Mikey on the Latner

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Speaker 7: pick because of that moment and just Latner's overall March

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Speaker 7: Madness impact.

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Speaker 6: Chris Webber, I think is a pretty bad pick.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: It's terrible, all right. So I go back to back

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Speaker 4: just to finish off my winning Mount Rushmore. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 4: you guys ready for these? I don't think you're ready

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Speaker 4: for these. I don't think you are ready for this

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Speaker 4: level of march. Okay, okay, yep, number three of my

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Speaker 4: top four matteen Cleve.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is an abs absolute And you want to

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Speaker 4: talk about the differential between college career and pro career.

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Speaker 4: Mateen Cleves is on that mountain.

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Speaker 1: Yep? All right.

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Speaker 4: And my final pick, the last player on a team

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Speaker 4: to win back to back national championships. Who was this

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Speaker 4: level of great Joe Keem Noah Omer, Joe Keem Noah

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Speaker 4: see that I'm Gator Boys hot them, Gator Boys stay hot.

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Speaker 4: Joe Keem Noah was the person was the visual element

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Speaker 4: of that back to back Gators run. Joe Keem Noah

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Speaker 4: a great pick Omer and a great pick both can

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Speaker 4: be true.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Your last pick Tyler Hansbro so that Taylor can't happen?

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Speaker 1: Good? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Again, that's a more of a February December through February pick.

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Speaker 4: Name me his big March moments, uh.

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Speaker 7: Beating the National champions beating Michigan State in the National

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Speaker 7: Championship game by about sixty points?

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Speaker 1: What was he bloodied? Traymond Cram on that Michigan State team?

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Speaker 1: Enough of him? Your last pick stup. Oh, I mean

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Speaker 1: bird is gone? Magic is there? I got Jordan's I know,

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Speaker 1: I got Jimmy V. I got Roly mas Amino if

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Speaker 1: I want him. It's one of the great upsets of

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Speaker 1: all time beating Georgetown. It really is. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: a game plan. Just played a game of keep it?

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Speaker 1: What was even basketball? I mean they held the ball,

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Speaker 1: there was no shot clock. They would hold over seven

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Speaker 1: minutes of the time, and then Harold Jensen, who could

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Speaker 1: also be on that list, would just hit a jumper. Yeah, God,

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Speaker 1: had Pickney could be on that list. Oh?

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Speaker 4: Easy yet?

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Speaker 1: Easy yet? Man? All right, I'll settle for Michael Jordan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's when we learned about Michael Jordan. It's

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Speaker 1: the first thing I think of when I think of

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is the shot against Georgetown, because it's the

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Speaker 1: first thing that happened in that wonderful career. And I

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Speaker 1: was about to build the dynasty in Nascar. I mean

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Speaker 1: he saw that none of that.

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Speaker 7: Separate, but separate that, Dan, do not count Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 7: NASCAR career with what he did in Man.

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Speaker 1: He just wanted to raise Mark.

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Speaker 8: You.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure, but I will separate that. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: got Jordan, Yeah, I got Jordan and Bird though Dan.

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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. So my last pick.

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Speaker 4: Here, please let it be that's who I think it is.

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Speaker 7: I'm between I'm going to say all the names on between,

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Speaker 7: since this is the last pick. I'm between Mario Chalmers,

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Speaker 7: Steph Curry, Ali Fu from Northern Iowa, Jan Dixon from Maryland.

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Speaker 4: W Wan Dixon's great Nomajan on this list. No Diana Tarasi,

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Speaker 4: no Shabaz Napier on this list.

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Speaker 8: Ali for my high school teammate, classmate.

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Speaker 4: I didn't play with him, classmate, single thing.

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Speaker 1: Just completely useless. He's in for him today. Guys, patient,

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Speaker 1: I got the women. The women are on right now,

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Speaker 1: they're on overtime. This is too stressful.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, college college basketball is better when Maryland's good and

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Speaker 7: Wan Dixon was that. But the last pick again, I'm

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Speaker 7: going with guys that are just synonymous with March madness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Price Drew Nope.

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Speaker 6: West Virginia's Kevin Pittsnoggle terrible.

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Speaker 1: No. I like his No, he played the game correctly,

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Speaker 1: he did.

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Speaker 7: I mean, oh boy, we want to talk about bloody

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Speaker 7: Vin Pittsnogle's Listen to that guy is what march is

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Speaker 7: all about.

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Speaker 1: You're right? How about the guy the coach he threw

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Speaker 1: his chair that time they won? Remember that guy.

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Speaker 4: He fell off his chair?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he fell off his chair, right. That guy's

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Speaker 1: an icon. He's such an icon. I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 1: Ron Hunter?

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Speaker 4: Was he?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, I want him?

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Speaker 7: So Bambire has the list of of all four teams. Yes,

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Speaker 7: Stu Gotts is the defending champion. Is Gotts gonna repeat?

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Speaker 7: Or are we gonna have a new champion?

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Speaker 9: Dan?

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Speaker 7: I liked what you did last time where you started

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Speaker 7: from four and then you you just eliminated person by put.

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Speaker 4: Dan before you judge. Can we just say that Stu

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Speaker 4: is clearly pandering when he's got Larry Bird, Danny Manning,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy v and Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I left off Keith Smart. I mean that's a

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Speaker 1: terrible Now you got.

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Speaker 5: Seventy, eighty three and eighty eight written down because those

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Speaker 5: were the years that happened in Stue's rankings.

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Speaker 1: That's my wheelhouse, Dan, I will I will say this.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit younger than you, so my wheelhouse

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Speaker 5: is a little bit different. There was the Golden ticket,

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Speaker 5: the Golden the Golden Mount Rushmore player was selected in

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Speaker 5: the sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So someone has the Golden Player.

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Speaker 5: It's automatic top two, automatic top two, and if the

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna be Taylor with I think, yes,

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Speaker 1: Please tell me it was it was not. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: it was not Kevin Pittsnagle. Okay, it also wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Anthony Brianna Stewart, Ma Teen, Cleve Cleves or Joe Kim Noah,

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Speaker 5: he is in fourth today?

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Speaker 4: Who has more championships? Count him up? I believe I do.

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Speaker 1: That's not the game we're playing. Count him up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is correct.

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Speaker 5: And Stue knows that that's why he's third, because that's

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Speaker 5: not the game that we're playing.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know one, I already know.

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Speaker 5: So that means that the Golden ticket is either on

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Speaker 5: Taylor's team or Mikey A's team.

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Speaker 4: Congrats Mikey.

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Speaker 5: So who could it be if it's not Kevin Pittsnagle,

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Speaker 5: that's a question. Sister Gene is such a great pick.

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Speaker 5: Who's better than Luel Sindel? And what about the run

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Speaker 5: that Kemba Walker made? But there was no better college

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Speaker 5: basketball player in my time than Christian Lightner. He was

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Speaker 5: the face of Duke when they would lose. He was

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Speaker 5: the face of Duke when they would win. He was

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Speaker 5: the piece to set Duke to being Duke. Because when

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Speaker 5: Stu was in his wheelhouse and when I was getting

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Speaker 5: in my wheelhouse, Duke lost. They lost in eighty six,

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Speaker 5: they lost in eighty eight, they lost in eighty nine,

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Speaker 5: they got crushed.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety. Christian Lightner changed all that.

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Speaker 5: He was the golden ticket and is why Mikey is

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Speaker 5: top two.

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Speaker 1: The question is is he number one?

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 5: And as we look at these names, there is no

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Speaker 5: doubt that Kemba Walker had one heck of a run

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Speaker 5: and who didn't love Sister Jean God rest her soul?

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Speaker 4: What the heck are those other two nags?

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Speaker 5: But you can't go without a highlight of seeing Chris

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Speaker 5: Webber call a timeout, and you can't make a story

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Speaker 5: of March Madness without Christian Lightner. And maybe the greatest

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Speaker 5: basketball player that college has ever seen is Louel Sindor

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Speaker 5: and Tyler Hansborough did win a national champion.

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Speaker 4: It's on the list.

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Speaker 5: It's that reason that Taylor is number two and Mikey

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Speaker 5: a today takes on the crown of Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 4: Was such a boo. That's fine, Tyler Hansbrough. You up here, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Tyler Hansbrough's blood was during the regular season, I believe,

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Speaker 4: not during But okay, we respect Dan Bayer's opinion and

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Speaker 4: that's that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, hey, tack another Florida.

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Speaker 1: I had Jordan and Bird for Crying Out Loud.

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Speaker 1: Yes, mikey A, I see you trying to get my

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Speaker 3: I guess this winning stuff feels good? Is this how

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Speaker 3: Iowa Sam feels today?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: This winning stuff.

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Speaker 6: Chris Webber was such a bad pick, such.

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Speaker 4: A terrible pick. It was almost as good as so.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a difference in madness, right, like it's

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Speaker 5: the highs and the lows, and you can't tell me

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Speaker 5: that Chris Weber's time out isn't one of the greatest

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Speaker 5: lows of all time in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: Iconic moments, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: Are you considered an icon when you do something that

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Speaker 4: like knuckleheaded.

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Speaker 5: At that you know, and by the way, they were

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Speaker 5: in the national title game the year before. I couldn't

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Speaker 5: stand the Fab five, was never a fan, and so

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Speaker 5: they go to a final four, go to a national

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Speaker 5: championship game, then they're back the next year.

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Speaker 1: And I heard a clip recently we're talking.

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Speaker 5: About that saying like there was a lost moment in

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Speaker 5: my career, but I was the best player in the game.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think we should all be careful because Dan

446
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: is the judge of these things, and we all want

447
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: to suck up to Dan moving forward in an effort

448
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: to win. But I will say this, iconic moments mount

449
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: Rushmore of iconic moments. I understand Chris Webber being orect

450
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: Chris Weber being an icon, a march icon because he

451
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: did something so dumb and called the time out. I'm

452
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: not certain that's deserving. I'm not certain Mike, you should

453
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: have won.

454
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 4: Dude, not only that if you give me the Fab five,

455
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 4: I'll take that.

456
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Yes, because that was a.

457
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 4: Bunch of freshmen making back to back that's right, iconic

458
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 4: runs in the NTUAA tournament that was ruined, not totally ruined,

459
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 4: but ruined by one guy's bad time out call.

460
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 7: Yes, if he would have drafted the Fab five, I

461
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 7: would have thrown the challenge flag because I don't think

462
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 7: you could draft an entire.

463
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna throw a challenge flag on your pick

464
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: from Jimmer for Debt, which I don't know if you

465
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 4: can call an icon. Having two good wins in the

466
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: NTUAA tournament? Is he two?

467
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: Is he?

468
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 7: If you don't think Jimmer, let's put is Jimmer for

469
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 7: Debt a March Madness icon on a hole?

470
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? That is gonna come back.

471
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: Now put another pole that says is Jimmer Fordett a

472
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: college basketball icon? And then see which one actually rates higher?

473
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 4: Because March Madness he had two good games and then

474
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: he had another decent game against Florida where they lost

475
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: in overtime. That's not an icon. That's two good games.

476
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: I think you two should put something on these poles.

477
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: See which one comes back better. Yes, Also, put is

478
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: Chris Weber and a March icon put that on the

479
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: pole as well, please because it's going to come back now.

480
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't matter because my championship is already secure.

481
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 7: Jimmer Fordet's senior year that March Madness tournament was peak Jimmermania,

482
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 7: where he was scoring thirty plus points every.

483
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 4: Game, oh two games, and then lost the third game. Yeah,

484
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 4: he lost.

485
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 7: He lost to BYU and overt he lost to Florida

486
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 7: in overtime.

487
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's b YU. Yeah, I don't even remember

488
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: it was on that Florida to.

489
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: You know, there's so there's I mean, Steph Curry, Steph

490
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: Curry was on nobody's list.

491
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: Was that on anybody's list?

492
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 4: Steph Curry had so much more of a March Madness

493
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 4: iconic run than Jimmer. For debt, jimmert had two good games. Again,

494
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Speaker 4: I think you're just con I think you're just confounding

495
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 4: the his his run as a college athlete and his

496
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 4: March Madness run, those are two different things.

497
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Speaker 2: This is the Jets trying to tell the Patriots how

498
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Speaker 2: to win because you're finished in last and.

499
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Speaker 7: I'm just I'm the bridesmaid every time I've finished in

500
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Speaker 7: second place. Back to back weeks.

501
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Speaker 4: Who has the most championships in there and there? Matt

502
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: Rushmot's how I gotta ask, In fact, I want to

503
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Speaker 4: switch Carmelo and Brianna.

504
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: Do it.

505
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: Brianna should have been my first pick. Carmelo should have

506
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: been second.

507
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Carmelo was.

508
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: The category was most championships?

509
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, would have won. Carmelo was your best pick? I

510
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: mean that was That's that's a great pick. Yeah, by for.

511
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 4: One year, I think Stuart winning every NCAA tournament game

512
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 4: she ever played and winning four championships. Yeah, that's a

513
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: march Icon.

514
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: Were you guys rooting for Tyler Tanner's shot to go

515
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: in that half court heave? I wasn't because you know,

516
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: they're playing my beloved Nebraska team and I have Nebraska

517
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: going to the final four out of the South. So

518
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: I was rooting for that to not go in. It

519
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: didn't go in, but Tyler Tanner thought it was going in,

520
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: and it would have made him a March Madden his

521
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: icon had that ball got in.

522
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Speaker 7: Yes, not only did Tyler Tanner think the ball went in,

523
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 7: everybody on that court, including Fred Hoiberg, thought that ball

524
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 7: went in because you could see the moment it hits

525
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 7: the rim, Nebraska looks dejected for like ten seconds. I

526
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 7: can't believe our season just ended like that. And it's

527
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 7: crazy going into the tournament. If you would have told

528
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 7: me the one game that I would be glue two

529
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 7: would be Nebraska Vanderbilt, Yeah, probably would have said BS.

530
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: That game was unbelievable.

531
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: Bryce Drew is a bigger March mado icon in Jimmer

532
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: for day.

533
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: I am with you on that. Yes, yes, the team

534
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: cleaves right well, no, he's not good. It just before

535
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: your time? Is that why that was a great pack?

536
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do not have any idea what mcteaen cleaves digital

537
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: Michigan State is to a national championship.

538
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: Know who we're doing the show with. He doesn't respect

539
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: the early nineties or nineties or eighties for that nineties.

540
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: Yes, I thought that mcteen was better picked than Joe

541
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: Kim Noah. If you want to talk about moments and.

542
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 9: Champion joking, back to back championships and he was the

543
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 9: face of that team.

544
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: Absolute March madness icon. Them Gator boys stay hot.

545
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 5: Even even when I give him a compliment is not taking.

546
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: But you started it, but he started a compliments. Let's

547
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: be honest, I.

548
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 5: Did say that, but no, I think the role that

549
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 5: mcteaen Cleaves played with that Michigan State team in two

550
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 5: thousand and he was the face probably of college basketball

551
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 5: the entire year.

552
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: Yes, really good.

553
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: But let's compare the fourth picks of Joe kim No

554
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: at two championships to Tyler Hansbro hands bro that's fine,

555
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan and Kevin Pittsnoggle.

556
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 6: I wish I picked one Dixon and Hans.

557
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he was so good. He is a marginal.

558
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm happy with all my picks. Yeah, I mean, is

559
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: he you were doing it on championships. I was kind

560
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: of playing the same game. I was doing it like

561
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: a name value. But it's not. It's just you know,

562
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: you think Mark, you think of certain guys, and Pittsnagle

563
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: is certainly one of those guys.

564
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 5: So someone did take Adam Morrison, you guys, wouldn't That

565
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 5: wouldn't have been sufficient for you guys, because he lost

566
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: and he was crying, and yet we all remember it like,

567
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 5: remember is.

568
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: Losing that iconic?

569
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Speaker 6: It's not iconic moment, it's just march Man iss icons.

570
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: So what are his iconic moments to make him an icon.

571
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 6: I mean he put can Zaga basketball on the matter.

572
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: During the regular season and then lost and cried in

573
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: the tournament. That is not a march icont I.

574
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 6: Mean, we're just gonna have to We're just gonna have

575
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 6: to agree to disagreement.

576
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: Put it on the poll. Do we have to agree

577
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: to disagree? I'm with Taylor on this. You never know

578
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: what's gonna get. Is he going? I mean, you just

579
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: never know what. You knew BAM's eighty three would get

580
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: him going, but I had no idea that this Mount

581
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: Rushmore was gonna get his real goody hair. He's such

582
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: an even keel guy. You have to poke it when

583
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: you find it, you have to poke it.

584
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 4: I mean, he has Sister Jean on his list. He's

585
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: clearly not serious.

586
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Over there, well, I mean she is a more chicon.

587
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: She's not deserving of it. She wasn't deserving of it,

588
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: but she is a more chicon. I mean, can I.

589
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 5: Throw them out there, who's more of an icon? Tyas

590
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 5: Edney or Ed O'Bannon.

591
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Tyas Eddon, Yes, Yes, I mean he hit the shot, yes,

592
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: first round gaed O'Bannon's teams team. That's that's a fair point.

593
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: We left off tyas Edney. That would have been a

594
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: good one. And so now we all know Dan's mall.

595
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: It's early nineties. Yeah right, we didn't take magic. We

596
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: could have took an Irvin Johnson. I mean he wasn't

597
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: magic then, ye.

598
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 7: Dann Something we were arguing about in the break. Do

599
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 7: you consider Ali Frukmanesh a March Madness icon?

600
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Who is that? Think?

601
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: Thank you?

602
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

603
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 5: It was a moment that we all remember, but I

604
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: would have given it slight consideration, but not above the

605
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: levels of the names that were given outside of a

606
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 5: Fredet and Pittsnaggle about massivememe. Well, Pittsnaggle was such a

607
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 5: like if you were there during that time in Gansey,

608
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: like you got something.

609
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: Something that happened. Yes, it was a thing, but was

610
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: it just the NCAA tournament? Was it long standing? Like

611
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: come on, like twenty thirty years of icon? I don't know, right,

612
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: is he?

613
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna put Thomas Hill on yours

614
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: because you know, when Laterner hits that shot, you need

615
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: someone to have that kind of reaction, and Thomas Hill

616
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: was there to have that kind of reaction to it.

617
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Grant Hill's college career. Grant Hill here

618
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: that we're talking about, is not talked about enough considering

619
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 5: what he did because of how great he was with

620
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: the teams that won the titles, right, and then he

621
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 5: took him to a national title game in ninety four.

622
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 5: They lost to Arkansas, but that was his team, right,

623
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: So his career.

624
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: Things happened a lot of these things where these people's

625
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: careers have been built up, happened in December, January, and February.

626
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: We're talking about March Madness.

627
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: I have two titles, a another national title game, of

628
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 5: appearance in the alley op in the ninety one you know,

629
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: Final four.

630
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: That was a great moment. Yes, I don't know if

631
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: it's an iconic moment. I can't remember all.

632
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: But it's iconic. It's just not on the Mount Rushmore.

633
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: He's just not on the Mount Rushmore.

634
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Right, That's fair, Stu.

635
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 6: Can I say something controversial please?

636
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 7: Today we're having a funeral for Cinderella, and I just

637
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 7: want to say I'm kind of glad they're dead so much.

638
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 7: Give me these Sweet sixteen matchups every.

639
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Year, every single year, going to Carolina. I mean, that'd

640
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: be nice.

641
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 4: In fact, you know what I will double down on that.

642
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: If you take out Texas and replace them with aj

643
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: D Bansa and Debantsa Debansa aj Debanta b Yu, it

644
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 4: would be an even better Sweet sixteen. So yeah, as

645
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: much as we want to talk about Texas, I can't

646
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: name three people on their team.

647
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't want BYU and my Sweet sixteen. I want

648
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Texas fields.

649
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: Right, the potential number one pick in the draft.

650
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: No, I just I want big brands. I want big schools.

651
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: I want Texas. I don't want BYU. I want Texas.

652
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I do all right.

653
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: Leading scorer is I don't care that guy?

654
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: Averaging guy? I don't know how many points per game,

655
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: but I'm glad Texas is in the Sweet sixteen. I

656
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, I can't now. I don't even know

657
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: who's coaching Texas. I have no idea. Is it Shaka Smart?

658
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: It's one of the Millers. What the guy who could

659
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: win in Arizona? I don't care that guy, Sean Miller?

660
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, Sean Miller. Really? Huh he's been to

661
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of Sweet sixteens. What happened to the Shaka Smart?

662
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: He's a marquette? What not to buzz Williams.

663
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, where he's always at, generally at market.

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Speaker 8: What on Nixon to Kevin Willard, The coaching carousel never stops, no, no,

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Speaker 8: it never and spinning.

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Speaker 1: But here's the interesting thing about the coaching carousel is

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Speaker 1: he We've arrived in a place where Rick Patino. So

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Speaker 1: you know this israel. North Carolina would never consider someone

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Speaker 1: like Rick Patino back in the eighties and nineties. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain North Carolina wouldn't consider Rick Patino in

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Speaker 1: twenty and twenty six, considerating all the rules have changed,

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Speaker 1: and Patino would be a better fit in now at

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Speaker 1: North Carolina than he's ever been. And Taylor's getting excited

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Speaker 1: because he would want Rick Patino. But here's the other

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Speaker 1: thing about it. We've arrived at such a strange place

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Speaker 1: in college sports, and in particular college basketball and coaching.

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain Rick Patino would leave Ain't John's to

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Speaker 1: go be the head coach at North Carolina. It's crazy.

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Speaker 7: So what I was gonna do, Stu, was throw the

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Speaker 7: challenge flag at you. You said, I don't know if

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Speaker 7: Carolina would consider Rick Patino. I know pretty certainly Carolina

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Speaker 7: is not considering Rick Patino.

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Speaker 1: That's what they say, now, I mean a little too

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Speaker 1: much baggage is there? Way, there's a lot of baggage there,

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Speaker 1: But the baggage doesn't matter anymore. And Carolina is out

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Speaker 1: of the tournament, and Rick Patino is still playing in

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Speaker 1: the tournament, and Carolina's not gonna say they're interested in

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Speaker 1: the coach. You're still coaching right now.

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Speaker 4: So a little revenge play for Iowa, Sam, Down, go

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Speaker 4: the Iowa women. The two seed fall to Virginia, a

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Speaker 4: ten seed, a greater upset than the women's tournament, by

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Speaker 4: the way, because double digit seeds make it to the

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Speaker 4: sweet sixteen. Big time upset in the women's tournament.

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Speaker 1: Take that, Sam, I can never have it all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you can't.

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Speaker 8: It's like women make it to a bunch of sweet sixteens.

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Speaker 8: They get to the final four championship game with Kayln Clark.

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Speaker 8: Men haven't been there in twenty seven years, and then

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Speaker 8: the shoes on the other foot and the women bow out.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, out of here. You've had a good enough weekend.

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Speaker 1: Joy Seriously, get back to be an Irish Sam. Please,

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Speaker 1: I'll be cursing under my breath. We'll take a quick

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Speaker 1: time out, hopefully wrap it up with some phone calls

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Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety oh time on Fox. I don't

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Speaker 1: have well, I can find the Bleacher Report list. They're

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Speaker 1: everywhere and maybe I'll find one. During the break, we'll

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Speaker 1: see Top one hundred hockey players next.

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Speaker 1: I have two lists in front of me, guys, both

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Speaker 1: from twenty and eighteen. Wow current The Bleacher Reports one

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Speaker 1: hundred Greatest college Basketball Players of All Time or I

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Speaker 1: think a better one. This is also again from twenty

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Speaker 1: and eighteen. The Bleacher Reports Top twenty five college basketball

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Speaker 1: players March Madness Players of All Time.

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Speaker 3: Hmm.

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Speaker 4: This is from twenty eighteen. Yeah, they're both from twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good look, which we do

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Speaker 1: rather hear the top ten College Basketball all time from

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Speaker 1: seven years ago or NBA. I think this the top

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Speaker 1: twenty five greatest NCAA Tournament players of all time kind

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Speaker 1: of relates more to what it is we've.

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Speaker 4: Been talking about today. Is that okay? Okay, yeah, so

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Speaker 4: we're going top ten, then.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just want to give you number twenty five

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Speaker 1: because it's going to make someone smile. So number twenty

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Speaker 1: five on this list is thank you. It's not thank you.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, say, it's gonna say I never heard

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Speaker 4: of him or her.

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Speaker 1: It's Jimmer Fernet, he's never heard of it.

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Speaker 9: Wait wait, wait, give me the list again. This is

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Speaker 9: a list of top twenty five. What's this is a

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Speaker 9: list of top twenty five? Hold on, it's twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 9: The internet was moving slower best.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, Yeah, it's the twenty five greatest NCUBLEA tournament

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Speaker 1: players of all time. And he like tournament players all time?

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Speaker 1: The tournament yes, yeah.

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Speaker 4: First of all, also not on a mount rushmore. That

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Speaker 4: would require eight Mount rushmoores for him to get on one, right,

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Speaker 4: And we only had four Mount rushmorees, so it would

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Speaker 4: have to be double the amount for him to get

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Speaker 4: on there. But also even twenty five is shocking to me.

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Speaker 4: He had three games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, Kim, Noah and sister Jean also not on

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Speaker 2: this list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know who is Corey Brewer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah he is.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why he's coming in it number more

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Speaker 4: than Joe Kee.

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Speaker 1: He's coming at number twenty one. Twenty is Carmelo Anthony?

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Speaker 1: How about that? Okay, all right, I'll give you the

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Speaker 1: top ten here. Chris Webber is on the list. Of

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Speaker 1: course he is, Yes, he is, he absolutely is. I

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Speaker 1: take that back. It's Michigan's Fab five is number seventeen years.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I know Ball.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to flag.

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Speaker 7: I know Ball, And don't forget b Yu was going

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Speaker 7: to be a one seed that year until Brandon Davies

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Speaker 7: got kicked off the team. Maybe that had a little.

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Speaker 4: Maybe if something was better, more of an icon than

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Speaker 4: he would have advanced number ten.

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Speaker 1: Jerry West. I got to talk from fourth place.

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Speaker 4: Terry West.

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Speaker 1: Ye, I don't like the list now.

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Speaker 4: Where Jerry West go to school in West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Zeke for THEE A good pick.

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Speaker 4: I had Chalmers on my list.

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Speaker 1: Rio was a good pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: Number nine as well, Kansas, that's right. Number eight Larry Bird,

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Speaker 1: of course, thank you. He lost in the finals.

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Speaker 4: But I sound like at all.

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Speaker 1: Number seven is Magic Johnson and we should all be

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Speaker 1: ashamed of ourselves for not taking him.

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Speaker 4: Mmmm. I tried to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Number six is a keeam as he said that. Number

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Speaker 1: five is Bill Russell. Number four Michael Jordan. I took him, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you might want to revise your rankings here. Number three

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Speaker 1: is Bill Walton. Someone should have taken him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Number two is Christian Lightner. Wow. Wow. And number one

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Speaker 1: is Mikey pointed out Lewis Sendor, not Kareem Lewell Sender. Yes, Latner,

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Speaker 1: I got one end two one yeah, yeah, Well I

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Speaker 1: guess he selected was m Michael Jordan wasn't even the

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Speaker 1: most outstanding player on that championship team. It was James Worthy. No, No,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Please yeah, yes, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: No, it wasn't because you on that list.

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Speaker 4: Nobody knows who Yeah he was, yeah, ok, nobody knows

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Speaker 4: who by us most outstanding player would have been because

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Speaker 4: they didn't even get to a Final four, didn't even

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Speaker 4: get to an Elite eight. Jimmerford dead.

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Speaker 1: Mhmm.

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Speaker 4: Fair to say it's the worst pick of them all, right, Dan.

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Speaker 6: Joe Kim, is he give me your ball? Noer card

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Speaker 6: revoked please?

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Speaker 4: You can't even look at it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's all