1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: All right. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: And one of the great things about this show is 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: because we are in the middle of the day. Uh, 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: we have way, we have Miranda. Oh great, okay, great, 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: because in the middle of day we get breaking news. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: But right now I got Miranda Devine breaking in here 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: with a phone call and she's making some time for us. 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: She's very busy right now because she is right in 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the midst of these revelations about Thomas Crooks, the would 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: be assassin of Donald Trump. Miranda, your piece up on 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the New York Post. I think we've got a crosspost 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: at clayanbuck dot com. It is very important. Let's start 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: with this. How sure are we, how solid are we 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: that this stuff about about Crooks right now is true? 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: That has been found online the YouTube accounts like like 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: go through a little bit of the verification of that 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: with us. Yeah. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: Sure. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: This is from a sauce who is obviously very tech 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: savvy and has basically used open source searching of where 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: archives using some tools that private investigators have, but not 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: using law enforcement tools. 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: And you know, a day after. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: Butler YouTube, for instance, shut down Thomas Crooks's account. But 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: my source managed to find old messages from there. Now, 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: this was available to the FBI because we know that 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 3: the Deputy Director, Paul at back in July of last year, 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: a week two weeks after the Butler event, he testified 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: to Congress about this account with more than seven hundred 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: comments which we have which our source gave us, and 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: so you know, it's pretty straightforward. Our source found seventeen 32 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: online accounts that Thomas Crooks had signed up to using 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: his own name, using a phone number of Thomas Crooks 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: that was publicly available, and his email addresses that connected 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: to all these accounts. So he's cross checked it and 36 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: is very satisfied that this is the Thomas Crooks where 37 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: he wasn't one hundred percent sure, he said so, but 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: he used these They're not really aliases, but they're sort 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: of handles Cooks used on other social media like gab 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: and x. 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: He used epic microwave. That's also what he used on 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: a site called deviant Art. 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: The only time he used an actual alias to sign 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: up for an account was with PayPal, and he used 45 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: the name Rod Swanson, which is the name of an 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: FBI agent who a former FBI agent from Vegas who 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: was partially involved in the Las Vegas, you know, mysterious 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: mass shooting. 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: I've talked to. 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: Him, knows nothing about it, doesn't have a PayPal account, 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: never never interacted with Thomas Crooks, and doesn't even know 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: how to set up a PayPal account. But what he 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: did tell me, because he's a very senior former FBI guy, 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: very seasoned, he said, it is inconceivable that a kid 55 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: with this kind of online communications and sort of violent 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: rhetoric would not have been visited or be on. 57 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: The radar of the FBR. 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: So, you know, other FBI people tell me the same thing. 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Some one of them suggested that because August twenty twenty 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: was when Thomas was at his peak violent rhetoric, talking 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: about assassinating political leaders and assassinating military leaders and using 62 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: AR fifteenths which was similar to the gun that he used, 63 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: and just after that he goes dark. He just disappeared 64 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: off all of these platforms. 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: You just he's a ghost. 66 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: But until August of twenty twenty, he's very prolific, and 67 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: you can see the trajectory of how he goes from 68 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: you know, age sort of fifteen sixteen, very pro Trump, 69 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: you know, like calling him the ultimate patriot, very anti Democrats, 70 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: anti the Squad, anti Ilhanoma, and then something happens. 71 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: To him in January twenty twenty. 72 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: In the space of two months, he's gone from rapidly 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: pro Trump, he goes to rapidly anti Trump. He's got 74 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: flipped one hundred and ninety degrees, and then his rhetoric 75 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: gets more and more violent and disturbing, and you know, people, 76 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: it was so bad that there were people online interacting 77 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: him with him who were tagging the FBI and saying 78 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: to him, Hey, you know, you're pretty dumb, like the 79 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: way you're talking openly. Now it's good because now law 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: enforcement knows where to find you. So it's hard to 81 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: believe the FBI didn't have him in their sights. But 82 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Christopher Ray, a week after Butler testified to Congress that 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: they had done a search of their database and found 84 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: nothing before Butler. So that doesn't necessarily mean that they 85 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: didn't have any interaction. And I think Christopher Ray knew 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: exactly what he was doing when he phrased it in 87 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: that way, because I know that during my Biden research 88 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 3: that there was interactions with whistleblowers about the Biden family 89 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: influence peddling corruption and that was not visible to any 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: average FBI agent looking in the database. It was hidden 91 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: away deliberately by certain road FBI agents in a place 92 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: where it could only be found by people who needed 93 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: to know. 94 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: So there's so much here, Miranda, I want. I think 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: it's so important everyone knows these details because because it's 96 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: hard to believe. That's one way of putting it, that 97 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: all this was out there and that as you've as 98 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: you said, from even FBI sources of yours, that this 99 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: would not have been on the FBI's radar. But an 100 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: even like lesser but also equally hard to believe component 101 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: of this to me seems to be that the FBI 102 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't find this stuff, Like why, how is it possible 103 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: that your person, your source was able to find this 104 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: online but the FBI wasn't able to write there's the 105 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: possibility of being on the radar before the shooting and 106 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the and possible meeting with law enforcement. You've established that, 107 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: But how is it that we didn't know about this before? 108 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Is the FBI? Are we to be told that they're 109 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: that incompetent? That is just it's mind blowing. 110 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: No, I have no reason to think that the FBI 111 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: isn't fully aware of this and much more. I mean, 112 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, it would be ridiculous to think that they 113 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: hadn't uncovered this. And in fact, Paul Day, the Deputy 114 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: under Ray, did testify that they had this account with 115 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: more than seven hundred for their YouTube account. So I 116 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: assume they have all of this and much more. The 117 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: question is why haven't they been more force coming, particularly 118 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: since Trump took over by when I contacted the FBI 119 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: about this story and asked them a number of questions, 120 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: including I think the most important question, did you have 121 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: any interactions with Thomas Crooks before Butler? Did anyone tip 122 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: you off about Thomas Crook? You know, did you investigate him? 123 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: Did you knock on his door? That's what I'm told 124 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: they should have knocked on his door. 125 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: Did you do that? 126 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: What's the answer I get from Cash Betel's FBI, No comment, 127 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 3: that's it. So I don't understand it. And you know, 128 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: someone else said to me, well, maybe it was a 129 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: secret service because in August twenty twenty, Donald Trump was president, 130 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: so they have would be the primary agent and see 131 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: that we'd go and knock on a door if there's 132 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: a threat to one. 133 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: Of their protectives. 134 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: But the Secret Service gave me a better response when 135 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: I asked them, and they said basically that this would 136 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: be this would be something the FBI would do that 137 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: even if they said they have no record of crooks, 138 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: they said now, but in any case, this is an 139 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: FBI responsibility. So I don't even think it's as simple 140 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: as for between the cracks between two agencies. 141 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: The FBI knows a lot, they have to know a lot. 142 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: Just how much I don't know? 143 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: And can I jump in with there's something that we 144 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't know or at least it wasn't imported until this 145 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: week that this guy used they them pronouns and was 146 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: interested in furries and had brought into the gender madness. 147 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: How could that not have been brought forward if the 148 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: FBI was operating in good faith and had access to 149 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: this information. 150 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's very slim. 151 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: I have to emphasize that. But like Tyler Robinson, the 152 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, there is a connection to 153 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: this sexual fetish called furries, which is people dressing up 154 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: as animals or enjoying cartoon animal humanized figures, having sex 155 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: or being in sexual positions. 156 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: So Thomas Crook. 157 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: He's not shared any furry staff well talked about it, 158 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: but he was frequenting and had two accounts on a 159 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: site called deviant Art, which is the major sort of 160 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: furry hub online furry hub, and it's sort of for 161 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: the furry community, and he doesn't share anything like that. 162 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: He does share this sort of bizarre image of a 163 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: very muscle bound sort of Sylvester Stallone sort of masculine 164 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: body with a female head on top of it, with 165 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: a puny little guy next to it that looks like him, 166 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: that's sort of in a prostate. 167 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Then they're not dressed, they're addressed in their underwear, So 168 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: that's one. 169 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: And then other than that, sort of cartoon characters on 170 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: this platform that. 171 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: Are violent, shooting each other in the head and so on. 172 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Right, so he's clearly a sicko. What about the they 173 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: them pronoun stuff and he. 174 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: Uses they them pronouns on deviant Art. That's the first 175 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: time we've seen that, so clearly some sort of gender 176 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: confusion or exploring gender identity again. 177 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean that. 178 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: Disturbing needs to be explored because we've had so many 179 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: gender school shooters. Tyler Robinson also in that vein his 180 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: living lover. So I think it's pertinent, and I don't 181 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: think it's enough for Cash Petel say, oh, he was 182 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: alone act to forget about it. I mean, if there's 183 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: a pattern, we need to know about it. Ron Johnson, 184 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: It's not just me as a journalist or Tucker Carlson, 185 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: who also did an episode on this last week with 186 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: the same source. It's also Ron Johnson, the senator whose 187 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: job is over sight of the FBI, and he has 188 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: been asking since day one for a whole lot of information, 189 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: including you know, camera forensics, autopsy, other documents and getting stonewalled, 190 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: and even under Trump's FBI he had to Ron Johnson 191 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 3: was very angry about the fact that in July, on 192 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: the one year anniversary of Butler, he had to subpoena 193 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: Cash Pattel for the documents that he's been asking for. 194 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: So, you know, we will, we will have our team. 195 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Let's let's get Ron john he may be listening right now. 196 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Let's get Senator Johnson on here, because I want to 197 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: talk to him about this as well, because we need 198 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: to continue to follow this and push for this. Miranda. 199 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: This is all so important and everyone should go read 200 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Miranda's piece at The New York Post. Also her podcast 201 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: podforst One. Yep, go go check out her podcast before 202 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: Before We Let You Go. Though I know you've got 203 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of hits today, tell me, I want 204 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: to let you react to this. Honestly, you know, Clay 205 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: and I really appreciate your work and we appreciate you 206 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: as a person. Hunter Biden is a jerk. You were 207 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: always while you reported on him. You would always say, look, 208 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: he's kind of a sad guy, and like, you know, 209 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: he might actually and I you always had some when 210 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: you would talk to us about this on the air, 211 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: some degree of sympathy for the guy, because I think 212 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: you're just a nice person. I had to play this 213 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: because I want you to react. Hunter Biden here said 214 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: mean things about you and Clay and I are ready 215 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: to fight him. Play sixteen. 216 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: There's no ethics in what, you know, like someone as 217 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: horrendously ugly as Miranda divine physically and in terms of 218 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: her in terms of ethics, it does. I mean she 219 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: is you know, a and then and and that goes 220 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: for you know, you know, I mean daily Mail and 221 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: you know, but I mean they're horrors. I mean they're 222 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 4: hores for money, and you know she does it because 223 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 4: she makes money. And you know, when when she goes 224 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 4: to sleep at night, I'm sure she sleeps just for 225 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: you know. I don't know anybody that's going to be 226 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,359 Speaker 4: more than her. When she's gone, I think, well. 227 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Everything you said is a lie and 228 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: he's a disgusting piece of trash. I just do you 229 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: feel like, oh man, you were too nice to this guy. 230 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: He's a horrible human being. He truly is. 231 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: I still have the same impression of him that I've 232 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 3: always had. He's a broken human being, and look he's 233 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: lashing out. He noticed that in all his podcasts, he 234 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: never refutes a word I said, and what I've written 235 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: and what I've found, Even though he keeps up the 236 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: pretense through his lawyer, Abby Loll that he doesn't know 237 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: anything about the laptop. It's not his laptop, or maybe 238 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: it was his laptop, it was stolen, he never refutes 239 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: any of it. The millions of dollars, the fact that 240 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: he traded on his father's name, the fact that his 241 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: father was involved in getting him clients and then he 242 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: put him on the speakerphone, all that corruption. 243 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: During Joe Biden's vice presidency to Enrich's family. 244 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't, he doesn't go into any of that and 245 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: try and to send himself. He just attacks my appearance 246 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: and hilariously calls me a whore. So, I mean, you know, 247 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous, and I think I just ignore it. 248 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's he's like he should he 249 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: should be in prison, as we all know, he should 250 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: be serving a lengthy federal sentence in prison, but because 251 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: of Daddy, he's not. But I just, you know, Miranda, 252 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of people on the 253 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: right who were you know, they're, oh, he's an addict, 254 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: and they try to give some sympathy. I think what 255 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: you saw here, he's a disgusting human being. Uh. And 256 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: and I and I thought that all along, So, uh, 257 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, I just think he showed everybody what a 258 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: piece of garbage he is. And I'm just glad that 259 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: you did the completely accurate and fearless reporting on him 260 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: that you did, and that people knew the truth about 261 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: the Bidens in general and the Biden crime family. So 262 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Claire and I are happy to 263 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: have a word with him outside the bar if we 264 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: ever see him, you know, after he says these mean things. Yes, anyway, Miranda, 265 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: you're the best, You're the best. 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I'll get in there with Hunter, you 297 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, charity boxing that would be that 298 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: would be valid, that would be allowed, all parties could 299 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: consent to. And uh, you know, what a what a jerk? 300 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: What a jerk that guy is? Well we knew that 301 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: all along, but uh, you know, she never went personal 302 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: really about him. Yes, she reported on his personal level, 303 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: that's all fair game, bend of who he is and 304 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: how he's leveraging his dad. But there was never never 305 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: done with a viciousness man, Hunter Biden a vicious piece 306 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: of trash and he got pardoned by Daddy for all 307 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: of his crimes, for all the abuse, for all the nastiness, 308 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: all the bad stuff he's done. He walks, Yeah, man, 309 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: that guy. And also remember when they did they did 310 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: the book and the media was trying to, oh, Hunter Biden, 311 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: he's trying to set up. No, he's not. He's just 312 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: he's a brat. He's just an old brat, somebody who's 313 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: never faced the consequences of reality because of who his 314 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: dad is, a corrupt stooge for the Democrats. The whole 315 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: thing is just so gross. But anyway, Mariana Devine's on 316 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: fantastic reporting that stuff about the FBI though, and Thomas Crooks. 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: We need more, we need more, we need more info. 318 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: That is for sure. The investigation continues. If you receive 319 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: an unexpected packages holiday season, think twice before scanning the 320 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: QR code on the box. Cyber scammers have taken to 321 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: sending packages without send or info. They want you to 322 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: scan that funny looking QR code to get more details, 323 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: and that's when the cyber thief starts to get your 324 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: own personal data. 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Big stories out there with regard to 342 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Crooks's online footprints, as we know there would be 343 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: assassin of our own President Donald Trump. Trump was just 344 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: in the Oval office and he had quite an exchange 345 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: with an ABC reporter. ABC News is you know, propaganda 346 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: very much a propaganda network, not a surprise Democrat propaganda 347 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: pretending to be objective of journalism, as if anybody could 348 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: believe that with a straight face these days. But Trump 349 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: really wasn't having it today because they're desperate to just 350 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: try to throw some stink in his direction as a 351 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: result of this Epstein release that's supposed to be voted 352 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: on here in a little bit, in the next hour. 353 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: There's supposed to be a vote. Here's how Trump handled 354 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: this exchange. I want you to hear a whole thing 355 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: with a reporter from ABC News. Listen to it. Is 356 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: it appropriate, mister President, for your family to be doing. 357 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 7: Business in Saudi Arabia while you're president? 358 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Is that a conflict of interest? 359 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 8: And your Royal highness? The US Intelligence concluded that you 360 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 8: orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. Not eleven families 361 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 8: are furious that you are here in the overalls. 362 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: Who watched Americans? 363 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: Who you were? 364 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 8: And the same gus who you wire? I'm an ABC usir. 365 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 7: With who ac Sir fakeness, ABC fakeness, one of the worst, 366 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 7: is one of the worst in the business. 367 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 8: But I'll ask you a question. 368 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: Thank you. 369 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 8: I have nothing to do with a family business. 370 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 7: I have left and when I've devoted one hundred percent 371 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 7: of my energy, what my family does is fine. They 372 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 7: do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia. 373 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 7: Actually they could. I'm sure they could do a lot, 374 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 7: and anything they've done has been very good. That's what 375 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 7: we've done. We've built a tremendous business. For a long time. 376 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 8: I've been very successful. 377 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 7: I decided to leave that success fee behind and make 378 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 7: America very successful. And I've made America more successful by 379 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 7: far than it ever was, and that it ever could 380 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 7: have been. No matter who was present, there would be 381 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 7: nobody bringing in twenty one trillion dollars. That I can 382 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 7: tell you right now, as far as this gentleman is concerned, 383 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning somebody that was 384 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 7: extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't like that gentleman 385 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 7: that you're talking about. Whether you like him or didn't 386 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 7: like him, things happened, but he knew nothing about it. 387 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 7: And we can leave it at that you don't have 388 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 7: to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that. 389 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: Oh, guys, can you get there's more? There's more? Can 390 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: we continue find find the He keeps going because I 391 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: was I was listening in one of our breaks, one 392 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: of our station breaks, as I was prepping for the 393 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: next segment. Puller, he really he really lays into her 394 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: after that, that's just the beginning of the exchange. We'll 395 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: bring you more of it here. Well, you'll notice, did 396 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: you ever hear any Biden met with the Saudis? I mean, 397 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: would you ever expect something like this, except when you 398 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: have a Trump administration. They've just they've got to go 399 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: on offense. They know this now they've got to do 400 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: anything they can to get people to We're really to 401 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: get Trump to spend time dealing with their attacks instead 402 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: of continuing to have the focus on this country and 403 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: what's going on with the Trump administration agenda, because overall, 404 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: I think it's very popular, it's very much working. In fact, 405 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, one of our favorites, the great. Some people 406 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: are saying the great Steven Miller from this White House. 407 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: He was saying, this is cut seventeen, that it is 408 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Trump who is doing the most. It is Trump who 409 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: who was moving mountain, so to speak. On affordability issues, 410 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: Play seventeen. 411 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 5: The Democrat media lies for a living and they're professional liars. 412 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: So it's a good opportunity to review the facts under 413 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: President Trump. In the last few months, we've seen the 414 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: first significant reductions in prices and the cost of living 415 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 5: since the last time President Trump was in offense for 416 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: four years, we saw wreckers setting double digit inflation, inflation 417 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 5: upwards of twenty percent, and now under President Trump, inflation 418 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 5: is back down to desired benchmark levels a little bit 419 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 5: over two percent. But to be clear, President Trump is 420 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: doing more every single day to keep bringing costs down. 421 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: President Trump is fighting to reduce the cost of energy 422 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 5: to historic lows. 423 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what he's really focused on. And 424 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: you'll notice that that the media attacks are always on 425 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: on other things. First of all, what is let's just 426 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: take this for a second. What is Trump supposed to 427 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: do about the Saudi crown prince and the allegation that 428 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: he had something to do with that guy Jamal Kashogi's 429 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, assassination murder. What is Trump supposed to do 430 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: about this? I'm just wondering what is he supposed to do? 431 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: What? 432 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: What does ABC News want? You'll notice it's clearly intended 433 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: to be an assault, and an attack of whatever proportions 434 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: they can get out, they can get out of this. 435 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Do we have more? When Trump really goes after oh yeah, yeah, okay, 436 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. This is where Trump has really had it 437 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: with Mary Bruce of ABC News. Trump has really had it, 438 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: and here he decides to let her know what he 439 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: thinks of for play thirty two. Fine week for Congress 440 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: to release the Epstein files. 441 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 8: Why not just do it? 442 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 7: No, No, it's not a question that I mind. It's 443 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 7: your attitude. I think you are a terrible reporter. It's 444 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 7: the way you ask these questions. You start off with 445 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 7: a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, insubordinate 446 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 7: and just a terrible question. And you could even ask 447 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 7: that same exact question nicely. You're all psyched. Somebody psyches 448 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 7: you over at ABC. You're gonna psych it. You're a 449 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 7: terrible person and a terrible reporter. As far as the 450 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 7: Epstein file says. 451 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 8: I have nothing to do with Jeffrey. 452 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 7: I threw him out of my club many years ago 453 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 7: because I thought he was a sick perverb. 454 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 8: But I guess I would turn out to be right. 455 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 8: But you know who does have Bill c Linton. 456 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 7: Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, 457 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 7: every single weekend. 458 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 8: They lived together. They went to his island many times. 459 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 8: I never did Andrew Weissman here. All these guys were 460 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 8: friends of his. You don't even talk about those people. 461 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 8: You just keep going on the Epstein finals. And what 462 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 8: the Epstein is is. 463 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 7: A Democrat hoax to try and get me not to 464 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 7: be able to talk about the twenty one trillion dollars 465 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 7: that I talked about today. 466 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 8: It's a hoax. 467 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: See again, he's saying it's a hoax to try to 468 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: wrap Trump into it. He's not saying Epstein's a hoax, obviously, 469 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: He's pointing out all the people involved with EPSTEIN as 470 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: a matter of record out there in the public, the 471 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: facts of the matter. But yeah, he's really he has 472 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: really had enough. You know, I've also believe I think 473 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: that Trump does feel like now I understand people could say, oh, 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: what's the job of it journalists to ask the tough 475 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: questions of a foreign head of states in the Oval Office. 476 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: Find me a clip where anyone from ABC News asked 477 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: anything like that during the Biden years. Find me that clip. 478 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: The point is, it's two sets of rules. They're journalists 479 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: when it excuses them from being ferociously aggressive, and you 480 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: know they're stenographers stenographers for power when there's a Democrat administration. 481 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: We're all very aware of how this slug goes. Biden 482 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: didn't even talk to the media. Biden didn't even talk 483 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: to the media and honestly had the dumbest White House 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Press secretary I think in the history of the job. 485 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: And was I really believe also so incompetent and just 486 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: not up to the job that people felt kind of 487 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: bad and didn't really Some people just knew that she's 488 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: a Democrat that you can't attack her, but other people 489 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: felt bad and she's just not up for this, not 490 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: up to it, which has become very apparent in Koreine 491 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Jean Pierre's book Tour After the Fact about everything that's 492 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: gone on. So just has no idea about anything and 493 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: answers almost every question with as a as a black 494 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: woman who's a member of the LGBTQ community, comma every question, 495 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: every question, She'll even answer a question about her using 496 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: that in every question by starting that way. So, yeah, 497 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: we all know that the media was in a totally 498 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: different space, very different place of operation when it came 499 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: to the Biden regime. But anyway, is Trump is. He's 500 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: doing a lot of things that I believe are really 501 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: helpful to the American people and really matter. And the 502 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: other side of things, the other team is doing everything 503 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: they can to get the focus off of the issues 504 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: that you really care about, off of what is going 505 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: to move the needles, so to speak, and get people 506 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: thinking much more about whatever salacious gossip they can pretend 507 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: is actual reporting. And that's that's something that Trump is 508 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: just he's tired of it. He's tired of it, and 509 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: he should be. So I commend him for taking the 510 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: approach on this that you know, enough, enough is enough. 511 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: And here is for example, even over at the Breakfast Club, 512 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: this is twenty eight, mister the God Charlemagne saying that 513 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: somehow the Bill Clinton relationship with Epstein is so much 514 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: less It's so much more robust and documented than anything 515 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, but so much less interest in this 516 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: play twenty eight. 517 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 9: It's just funny how to new works that Bill Clinton, 518 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 9: you know, wrote a letter to you know, Jeffrey Epstein 519 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 9: as well for his birthday, but nobody's talking about that. 520 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 9: And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton addressed 521 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 9: in high heels, you know, in his New York mansion, 522 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 9: but nobody's talking about that. My thing is this, I 523 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 9: don't care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go burn 524 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 9: it on now. 525 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 8: That's just as. 526 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 9: Simple as that mutually showed destruction. Whoevers on that list 527 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 9: need to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles. I 528 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 9: don't care what party they. 529 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: Are, no period. 530 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 8: And you know, to that point, though, you know, Clinton 531 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 8: is not the president right now. 532 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 7: You know if he was, you think that anyways, Yeah, 533 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: I think he would still be under scrutiny if he 534 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 7: was the president right now. 535 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: No, he was, Liberal media wouldn't push the issue, that 536 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: is correct, I like the last thing he threw in there, 537 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: mister the god coming to the uh, to the side 538 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: of reality there. But of course if Clinton were president now, 539 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: they were just they would do exactly what they're doing, 540 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: which is pretend that what is actually the public record 541 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: on this issue with something else. They would they would 542 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: lie about it, and they would make it seem like 543 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Trump even said this today in the Oval office. He said, 544 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm the one who kicked him out of the club 545 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: and thought he was a creep. Clinton was honest. How 546 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: many guys? How many times was Clinton on the plane? 547 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: Can you I forget the number? It was a lot, 548 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot. Spent a lot of time with this 549 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: guy and the people. Trump never went to the island. 550 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people went to this island. That's kind 551 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: of a big move. 552 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 7: You know. 553 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: How many people? Uh, well, I mean, I know you're 554 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: talking about the the kind of global elites here, but 555 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: how many people would you be like, Yeah, you know, 556 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't know you that well, but I'm gonna get 557 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: on your plane, your private plane, and fly to your 558 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: private island to hang out, right. That's uh wouldn't you 559 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: have to know someone really well before you'd want to 560 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: do that. Wouldn't you want to really know who you're 561 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: dealing with. Look, I'm ie, I get in I get 562 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: invites to, uh, you know, the people sometimes even kind 563 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: of like prominent famous people. I get invited to, you know, 564 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: some things here, not a lot because I'm a pretty 565 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: private person outside of my work. But you know, I'm 566 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: just telling you, if someone I didn't know said, hey, 567 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: will you hop on my private plane and go to 568 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: my private island for the week because I just want 569 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: to talk. I would say, how about a coffee? How 570 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: about we go for a stroll first. There's different layers, 571 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: different connectivity that has been established in this public record, 572 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: and they keep desperately trying to dirty Trump up with this, 573 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: and it just doesn't stick because it's not there. There's 574 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: no they're there, and they on the other side, they 575 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: pretend to be the great defenders of these women who 576 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: are victimized by Epstein that left the Democrats. They pretend 577 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: that that's what they care about, but no, they only 578 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: care about it in so far as they can use 579 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: it as a weapon against Trump in some way. And 580 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: they're far less interested in pushing on what is much 581 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: more apparent, which is the deep and enduring relationships that 582 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: some of the biggest donors to the Democrat Party, so 583 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: the most important people, the former president of the Democrat Party, 584 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: that they don't really seem that interested. I know that 585 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they get they get confused, Oh yeah, confused. Sure, Look, 586 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: hopefully your Thanksgiving plans next week include spending time with 587 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: family and close friends. 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Didn't say his name, but here's 631 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: what he says about my conversation with Clay yesterday about 632 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: tipping people everywhere for everything. Play a A. 633 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, I realize it's not the point of your 634 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 6: whole story, but the tipping part. If I'm sitting down 635 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 6: and someone's bringing me food, I'll tip them. If I'm 636 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 6: standing up ordering my own food and clearing my own dishes, 637 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 6: I'm not tipping, period. In the story. That's how the 638 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 6: world should work. 639 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with your with your rule there at all. 640 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: And I wanted to be clear, Yester. I wasn't saying 641 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: to people, you know, everyone has to make their own 642 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: make their own budgets and take care of their you know, 643 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: themselves and their families first and foremost, obviously being fair 644 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: to people who are servers and stuff in the process. 645 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: But I was just saying, I have given up on 646 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: enforcing that rule of my own life because I just 647 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: figure anybody and I'm coming across in the service industry, 648 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's like I'm spreading spreading some loot around. 649 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: That's my idea. That's how I do things. I'm very 650 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: blessed fortunate in life. And uh, you know, just trying 651 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: just trying to be generous in my own community and 652 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: with little ways I can, and to those who are 653 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: in a position where they're not worried about week to week, 654 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: month to month bills. You know, just tip thirty percent, 655 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, give give people especially we're working really hard. 656 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's it's so important to show 657 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: appreciation for people how you can when you can with 658 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: a little money. All right, here we go. Bob from 659 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: Houston wants to weigh in on our dating conversation. B 660 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: B hit it way buck. I learned early on that 661 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: girls are just like guys. 662 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 10: We all just want a nice, respectful friendship that may 663 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 10: blossom into a relationship. And well I learned that then 664 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 10: talking to any group of girls in high school was 665 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 10: no problem. Now it wasn't you know, trying to pick 666 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 10: up a date or anything like that, but you know, 667 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 10: just making daily conversation to me, that was just really great. 668 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 10: So and lo and behold, it was actually through a 669 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 10: friend that I met my wife, and we've known each 670 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 10: other for twenty years. 671 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: Married thirteen Bob, I'm glad it all worked. Jaffrey. I'm 672 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: a big believer. I always say this to people. Just 673 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: talk to people. You'd be amazed at how much you 674 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: learn and how much opens up to you. You're just 675 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: willing to talk to folks. Talk to people as you can, 676 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: as you come across them. I'll say also that the 677 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 1: idea of a pickup line, here's my thing. I don't 678 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: think the pickup line really matters. What helps people is 679 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: that the pickup line gives guys. Guys the ones who 680 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: do pick up lines right, It gives them the confidence 681 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: to approach a woman that they're then speaking to, and 682 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: because they think, oh, I have a pickup line, they 683 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: come across as confident and ready to engage. The line 684 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. But I wouldn't go with may I 685 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: meet you for most of you out there, unless you're 686 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: going to do it in an ironic and funny way, 687 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: and maybe that'll work great. In fact, I bet there 688 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: are people who are gonna get married because of Bi 689 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: Blackman's may I meet you? Because he said it and 690 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: then the lady laughed response. 691 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 7: Kay