WEBVTT - Robert Glasper 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:09.880 R and B Money, Honey, we are thank take out 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:16.280 the child. We are the authority on all R and B. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.200 Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Who this the 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:28.680 Army Money podcast exquisite, the authority? Oh what on all 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:31.800 things R and B? Man? 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:41.320 Uh, your musicianship, your professionalism, and your education is in 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:42.360 question today? 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:47.560 Yes it is. Because he's here? Who without? Who? Keep going? 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:54.120 Because he's here? Who he's here? Who the fuck is here? Robert? 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.680 Rob Ship Robert. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.160 Let's let's paint the scene before we get into the test. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.800 Let's paint the scene. Let's get into it. You win a. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:25.280 Grabby fitty, right, you win his flip pace, his flowers celebration, 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:27.800 and then. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:35.920 You look on social media you're big mangled by Team Breezy. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.360 They on your shout out to a little brother, Chris 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:48.720 Broun shot the team your ass full transparency. I'm like, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.400 how did Robert and coulds end up in the same 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.000 section at the club? 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.440 How does it even happen? And I'm sure Roberts sexual ladies. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.800 What I don't want no bottles. I don't know bottles. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.240 I don't want no bottle. I don't mean no one. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.160 I have no idea I don't have to. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:18.800 Give it to that. Explain, explain, explain your yeah, yourself 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.680 at the So the funny funny part is so. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.160 That actually that actually happened with one of your friends 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.880 the first time I won R and BR by the year, 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.320 because I won it in twenty twelve, So let's just 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:33.760 be clear. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:34.560 That's the second time. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.840 So eleven years ago I won for Black Radio one 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:44.440 and I was up against Tyrese and I heard he 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.760 wasn't too happy about that. Somebody told me they were 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.000 with him at the Grammys and before they announced who 0:02:51.080 --> 0:03:03.840 the winner is, he stood up, And that was before 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.359 I was on. I wasn't I didn't get on I 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.359 g T twenty sixteen or something like that. I wasn't 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.480 even on Twitter and stuff. But you know, but I'm 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:15.799 used to that makes sense, you know. Tyresee sings slow, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.359 sultry music. He does implore the great musicians to do, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.600 you know, have them with his thing. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.399 You're you're in that. So here's the thing. So here's 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:25.720 the thing. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.880 Me and Chris Brown were in the in the traditional 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.480 R and B category, right, that was that was a 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:32.760 category tradition. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.119 He should have been in the progressive. He doesn't even 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:37.680 know what he wants. He's like, I think, what what? 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.520 No, because I have no because my other two, the 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.280 other the other two that are in R and B 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.120 are both R and B songs. So I still have 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.560 two R and B song Grammys, and one of them 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.800 is a credit progressive and one of them is traditional. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.640 Of course, so I wasn't trying to do a bar. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.000 I was just saying I have always have them. So 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.720 my brother, technically, I think we were in the tradition category. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.280 Chris should have been in the progressive category, you know 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.840 what I mean, because if you're really doing traditional, my 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.280 album had all real instruments, yes, no attitude. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.760 Yeah, I was traditional traditional. Now technically people are like, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.120 you shouldn't have been in the category. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.960 You shouldn't have. I should have because that's the album idea. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.960 I didn't R and B record, you know what I mean. Now, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.240 I'm a jazz musician also, so when I do a 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.880 jazz record, unfortunately I'm not. Unfortunately, I go and it's 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.520 a big house, and I go black music is a 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:30.839 big house, and I like to go room the room, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.080 you know what I mean. And so sometimes I like 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.040 to go into the jazz room. Sometime I like to 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.440 go into the hip hop rooms. Sometimes I like to 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.960 go into the R and B room, you know what 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.200 I mean. So these records are like R and B records, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.040 you know what I mean. Now, So it's more I 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.560 feel like in that sense, Chris should have been in 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.040 the in the more progressive R and B. You know 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:52.800 what I mean that in that sense, you know what 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.000 I mean. So when I saw I was in the 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.560 category with him, I also was like, oh, snap, you know. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.240 And I also was like, oop, I'm not winning, you 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.040 know what I mean? No, but true transparency, I thought 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:03.920 Mary was gonna win. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:05.040 I was. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.920 I was prepared for Mary to win because her album 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.960 was a good record, and I feel like the campaign 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.840 behind the record was very very very very strong, and 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.680 she's Mary, you know what I mean, And I just 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.400 felt like she was going to win. I didn't write 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.320 no thank you speech, no nothing, because I just knew. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.640 I even made a video saying all right, y'all, I'm 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:24.960 gonna lose, watch me lose. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.120 That's probably what you want, you know what I mean. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.320 I just to make sure whenever I get nominated, that's 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:32.840 what I do, you know. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.880 No, Honestly, like even when I won for Black Radio 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.360 one back in two thousand and twelve, I didn't think 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.640 I was gonna nominated. For Me and my record company 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.000 got into argument because they wanted me to put it 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.800 in the jazz category. Case, you know, you put your 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.000 album where you think it's supposed to be. They wanted 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.680 me to put it in jazz category cause they said 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.640 that the jazz people know me and you know that 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.400 I was a Jeniat beforehand in jazz records, but I 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.080 purposely went on to it with Maxwell for three years 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.719 before that record and did the dance with you know different. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:02.400 I was in the R and B room for a 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.440 long times. I was also Bellows mus the director for 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.040 nine years since he started. We were the Calls Together. Yeah, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.920 so me and with the Calls together his first songs. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.080 We rolled him in my dorm room for his first album. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.599 You know allows my longest, my longest collaborator, my favorite 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.280 and longest collaborator, you know what I mean. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.320 So here's the question. Have you won a Jazz Grammy. No, 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.760 I've been nominated for Jazz Album of the Year. I 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.520 wondered about this. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.520 I've been nominated for Jazz Record of the Year, but 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.880 I've never won the first Grammy I ever won, no 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.480 I've I've also been nominated for Best Progressive. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:39.240 Alternative. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.200 When there was an alternative it was called Urban Alternative 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:43.880 in two thousand and nine. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:44.679 There was an Urban. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.280 Alternative before they put out because you know, the progressive 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.040 the progressive category came after Black Radio. When I won that, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.599 then they made a progressive category R and B progressive, you. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.120 Know, so you made them. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.760 I pretty much opened that door. Yeah, just me trying 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.160 to keep throwing bars. But that's what happened. Boy, that's 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.719 what happened, you know what I mean. Sean's also Michelle Decachello, Yeah, 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.320 because she really it was the reason why there was 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.000 an alternative Urban Alternative category because she went in there 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.320 campaigned for it because of her music. That's why there 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.760 was an urban alternative category. And I was in there, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.400 me and Belada the song called All Matter on my 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.360 on one of my records, do it in that time 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.560 in two thousand and nine. That that was my first nomination. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.680 And then that was basically out of the box R 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.160 and B for bot people, you know what I mean, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.160 because we were always putting a certain box. If you 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.640 want to do R and B if it don't sound 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.640 like this, then you you can't Winogrammy. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.560 You know what I mean. That's a big reason why 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:36.400 we wanted you here. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:43.720 Yeah, because you also represent other side of contemporary are 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.240 more popular R and B in that space, pop R 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.240 and B or hip hop r and B. Like you said, 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.560 you know, they they were in a sense creating and 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:03.160 finding sub genres of R and B for you to 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.840 fit it absolutely the music that you were making and 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.760 what you were bringing to R and B. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.560 Because if you listen to it, it's not necessarily jazz. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.680 Because they want to make everything I do jazz because 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.760 my first few records are jazz record so they tend 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.400 people tend to think everything I do is jazz. It's like, no, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.800 everything is not all the way jazz. I'm a jazz 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.400 musician as well. But I can make an R and 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.480 B album. I can produce an R and B record. 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.840 But also then I think that you know, I think 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.160 the Grammys are working on it, trying to figure out 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:37.199 how to identify all of these things, because R and 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.599 B at this point is so many things, and it 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.439 should be and it just is. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.000 And so the. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:51.240 People who are figuring out these these categories have to 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.040 be very well versed in understanding what the difference is, 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:59.520 what the very differences are. You have a full live 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.600 R and B album that is as traditional as it gets, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.199 it gets p J. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.880 Mortin's album Live Musicians. I'm not the only one in 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.200 the category that's like that exactly. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.120 So it's like with you two in the category is 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:18.520 like that makes sense absolutely, But then you have Chris Brown. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.920 Even even Mary I wouldn't put so much in that 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.439 traditional space because she didn't make a traditional R and 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:25.959 B album. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.319 She made R and B as we know it. But 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:29.480 it's still progressive for. 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:34.880 Us because technically Mind is progressive too, because it because 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.000 what would you when you listen to the album, it's 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.200 in a sense it's progressive because it's not. It's also 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.160 not a traditional record with the hip hop stuff I'm 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.040 mixing in there and how you know. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.319 Yeah, but it's it's it's it's hard to it's still 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.560 traditional though. I hear what you're saying. That's why I wasn't. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.560 That's why I feel like if anybody because. 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:57.400 Because if we're calling Chris Brown progressive, then your albums 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:58.480 are like our nine Day. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.719 I feel like it's progressive because most of its AutoTunes. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.199 Also because of the production. It is more progressive, you 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.360 know what I mean production production. First of all, let 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.320 me be clear, not that he needs it needs altitude, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.320 but I know you said it's the texture, the sound 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.920 more progressive for sure in that sense, you. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.800 Know what I mean. But but it's it's so sonic. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.240 It's the drums used. It's huge. But people the way 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.800 we're talking, people in those rooms don't know how to 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:27.439 do that. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.040 But people in those rooms should know. It should if 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:49.040 it's those rooms, tasted room for me in those rooms, sorry, camera, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:55.079 we'll spilled over. It's spilled over, spilled over exactly. The 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.360 people in those rooms these are and and and maybe 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.559 they are and we don't know what the rooms, but 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:06.079 ultimately they change over time, and they have to change 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.439 through us and through. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.240 Us promoting membership and being a part of it. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.480 Now they just added another category. I believe it's for 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.720 me again. It's literally this new category just came, just came, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.920 it's starting now. It's it's a category called. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.720 What is it called I'll turn into something something something. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.880 Basically, the category says a category that mixes jazz, hip hop, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.680 R and B with vocals or without vocals, and basically 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:42.160 that that's what I am. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:47.840 You it's me they that's what that's what it is. Section. Yeah, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.760 so that team breezy because then it really don't jump you. Yes, 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.040 in that scenario though, I should have been on the 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:56.839 losing end of that. I should have been the one like, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.959 why am I in? You know what I mean? Well, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.280 we can't call that because Grammys is as we're you know, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:03.920 as as we had. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.199 To learn, you know what I mean and doing the 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.640 education of it. It's like some of it is impact, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:14.760 some of it is success, and in these in these 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.920 different occasions, it's not any of that, right, very true, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.600 none of it where a bass player can take album 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.199 of theater and you're like, who's Robert? You see what 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.160 I'm saying. So there are those moments. But I think it's, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.800 like you said, representing in those rooms. And I think 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.600 the responsibility is on us as well, because our participation 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.920 is needed in terms of trying to to help. They 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:49.160 would welcome our voices in our and our opinions, you know, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.679 and obviously that's a that's part of our job. That's 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.800 part of our job. Even with this this podcast, yes 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.719 to you know, like I run into people on the 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.760 streets every day. Literally that are just you know, I 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.880 learned this from the podcast. I learned that from the podcast. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.120 Hopefully they learned from the podcast. Listen, join the Grammys 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:07.920 if you have you know what I mean, if you 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.640 know anyone that is actively in the music business and 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.319 you can get you know, not what is it, I 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.480 don't know the term of it is slipping my mind 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.199 right now. But when someone gets you an invite, and 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.120 if you can figure out a way to get you 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.160 an invite and become a member of the Grammys, you should, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.240 and now your voice will be heard and you can 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.360 start running for positions within the Grammys to you know, 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.480 to help and be on the boards and all these 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.320 other things. Like it's it's a job, so you can't 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.000 be mad at the people who actually do the job. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.000 Absolutely, and that's a good problem to have. That means, 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.120 that means the music is changing, it's moving, it's growing, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.360 it's breathing, you know, it's not staying still. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.600 Yeah, but you know, I've been in the musicment it's 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.800 a really long time, and probably the last four to 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.800 five years is when I was really introduced to Neris 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.360 and the Grammy boards and the committees and that whole 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.280 thing and how to get how to be a part 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.280 and how to really have real membership in the last 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.959 four or five years of my career, which is crazy. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.640 I've been in this shit a long time. So because 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.720 we didn't have platforms like this that were telling us 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.080 like no, no, no, no, no, you can go there 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.320 and be, you know, absolute part of it. So did 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.920 you ever talk to Chris? Yeah, so we we. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.840 He sent me a message really nice, you know, apology. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.640 I think he posted on this thing too, but apology. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.120 And then we talked a little bit after it and 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.920 he was like, man, you know, you know, he's like 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.160 I was. He basically said he was down to work 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.760 and I would love to work Chris super talented, you know. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.920 I mean, I would love to work with Chris Brown. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.120 You know. So I think his fans would love it too. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.080 And I think that you know, it was you were 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:51.000 right here in the middle. Yeah, you know, of his kids, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.400 of him being overlooked a whole lot. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.760 But the funny thing is I didn't have my phone 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.960 on me because my in real life, I didn't try 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:02.800 on my tuxedo for the Grammys till the morning of 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.840 the Grammys m because it was the Taxila that water 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.160 a year before at the Oscars, and you. 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.040 Thought that you were in the same Boom shade. There 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.080 we go, but I actually lost weight. Oh that's what 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:20.360 I'm I like that dude. The pants were too big. Wow. Wow. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.080 He always loves to. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.240 Go back to my Steve Harvey suits every time he 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.520 gets a chance. Every time he gets a chance, keep going, Robert, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.680 disrespect is gonna it's gonna stop. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:44.680 It was just a family feud. So look, my pants 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:45.160 are too big. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.480 So we ended up having to clip paper clips on 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.880 the side of my pants to go to the Grammys. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.440 When I ended up winning, I jumped up and the 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.240 paper clips went their way. So I'm running up to 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.760 the stage. As soon as I get up there, I said, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.480 I'm sorry, y'all my pants my paper clips fell out, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:03.520 not paper clips, what do you call them? 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.520 The safety pants? 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.960 And I had to hold my pants up the whole night, 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.680 literally keep one hand like in my pockets. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.280 Didn't look cool. You look like a nigga who was 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.800 ready to fight. Boom Exactly. I put it up his 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:21.400 fans exactly. You know about having it, But what do 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:21.920 you say. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.480 So? Because if you get the slacked in between your thighs, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:28.960 you really can't get your stance right. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.400 Black people love to adjust when we're about to fight, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:42.520 when we adjust everything anything. You taking all that stuff, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:51.000 getting the away, getting to see those. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.000 Jacket didn't have pockets, and I couldn't hold my pant 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.080 the phone in my pockets because I had to hold 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.960 them up. It's too heavy for my pants. So I 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.840 had like my assistant holding my phone the whole night. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.400 I didn't even know none this was happening until I'm 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.560 during the actual Grammy doing the televised portion and some 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.520 people were like, yo, you're trending, and I was like what, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:11.960 And then I was like, yo, get my phone. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.879 Then I saw all the text and all the things 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.960 and what it was. I was like five number five 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.560 trending on Grammy night. I was like, oh my god. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.560 I was like, this is a blessing. I was happy. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:23.639 I was like, this couldn't have worked out. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:24.159 Take it. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:26.080 This worked out? 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:26.280 Ever. 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.239 Make the t shirts? Oh, absolutely sold out. I need one. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.280 I sold out of it. But I just made some 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.480 more from my festival than Napoo that I do on July. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.000 Because I do a festival. Yeah, I do a festival. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:43.760 We never get host host. Oh you'll be invited now 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:45.879 and y'all should do the R and B. Did she 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.000 do the podcast there? I like, Naple, I'm like, let's. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.600 Do you're from the bank, y'all heard it first. I'm 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.360 gonna ask next year. You know you just asked jazz Nap. 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.560 Now what you meant year? It's in July July? What July? 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.760 Well, normally it's like twenty nine thirty, okay, so it 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.520 just passed. We just said the next year. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.800 Okay, boom. I would love that anyway. So let's get 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:13.920 into let's get into who where in the where the 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.560 who issues? What the fuck? I'm from Houston, Texas. Yeah, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.120 born and raised and love. Yeah. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.040 I was raising watching my mom do that. She had 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:25.760 the rehearsals at the house with the with the with 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.320 the cats and the musicians and stuff. So I was 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.879 just all the ways around music all the time. I 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.639 went to the High School for Performing Artists where I 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.160 met be Cos. You know, I actually met be Cocks 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.080 before that. We're in the competition together, but were in 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.280 high school together too. We're in high school together, but 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.920 I met him in eighth grade at a at a 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.760 talent competition. He had a band hit, a group called 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.280 business or pleasure. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.920 Whatever you want. Okay, business in the front, yeah, pleasure. No, 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:07.960 shout to becots. 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.400 But we met in the talent competition that he told 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.080 me at that time, Yo, you should come to the 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:13.040 high school performing Arts. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.280 I didn't even heard of it. In the audition and 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.280 I got in me because Beyonce was there with us. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:25.520 Yeah yeah, you know, and you know pros time. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:28.840 So it was fun because I used to pick Brian 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.920 up for school every morning, Me and Brian and my 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.000 boy Troy pick him up for school every morning. And 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.520 I'll be playing my jazz stuff, my Herbie Hancock, my career, 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.840 you know, my JA in high school and Brian would 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.520 be playing the R and B stuff and tell me 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.560 what's new coming out? And he was a line of 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.360 note freak, you know what I mean. So even back 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:44.760 then in high school, read the line of note of 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:47.720 this that. So that's where our music things like, you know, 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.480 co existed, you know, and that's where I learned a 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.520 lot of R and B stuff and understanding this and that, 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.520 and you know, one to the studio with him, and 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.560 in high school and Greg Hurtis, you know, we're at 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.560 high school, you know, shout to Greg. So yeah, man, 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.760 I had a that was pretty much the fruit of everything. 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.440 What is your intro into professionalism? 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:06.760 For you? 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.119 The intro to professionalism, I'll tell you my very I 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.040 don't think I've ever said this out loud and not 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.879 on the podcast anyway. Uh, I was in eleventh grade 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:23.119 and I'm in school. Uh, these people come to me, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.680 they come into the classroom. That Robert the people. I 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:27.720 would need you to get out, go go on the hallway. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.880 Jennifer Holiday is performing in Houston. Her piano player missed 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:36.680 the flight. She's performing in Houston that night. Piano player 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.720 missed the flight. They came and got me out of 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.760 school to go play with Jennifer piano with Jenma Holiday. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:46.560 So we noticed kid. Yeah, literally, that was my first 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:50.880 eleventh grade that can what to learn the show? Learned 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.480 the show. That was my first professional like on a 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:53.960 big scale. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:21:00.080 Hold on j Holliday, Okay, because she's not singing fifteen minutes, Nay, 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:04.600 she doing about hour and a half two hours a show. 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.320 You had to be reading music. Absolutely, you were reading 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:11.320 music at that level. 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.200 And eleventh grade I had to play, to play in 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.200 big band, to play and all the things I was 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.680 in in school. My school is it's super high level. 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.560 You had to the test and everything. You had to 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:22.440 be at it. So when I got into college, it 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.600 was a joke. College honestly was was funny. I just 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.560 went to college just for because we had to know 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.400