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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hello, Loved, Welcome to the Holy Human Podcast. Today,
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to expect the unexpected and
Speaker 1: to open your mind and your heart to all possibilities.
Speaker 1: My guest for this episode is a man who works
Speaker 1: with energies and concepts that differ from conventional Western ideas
Speaker 1: on the mind, body, and spirit. Seanman Derek is a
Speaker 1: sixth generational healer and a sought after practitioner on the
Speaker 1: international metaphysical scene. I personally just finished his book Spirit Hacking,
Speaker 1: and I absolutely loved it and highly recommend it. He's
Speaker 1: made a huge impact on my life and I am
Speaker 1: so happy to have him join me on this episode
Speaker 1: of Holy Humans that you with me. Seman Jerry, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Holy Human Podcast. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: gracing us with your presence. Um. I have been I've
Speaker 1: been listening. I've been diving into your book UM for
Speaker 1: the past several days now, and I must tell you
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite books I've listened to in
Speaker 1: a long time, because you explain things so eloquently and
Speaker 1: so simply, and so first off, I just want to
Speaker 1: thank you for putting this book Spirit Hacking out into
Speaker 1: the world because I think it is much needed for
Speaker 1: the times we're in and I have enjoyed it. So
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: That means a lot from coming from you, So I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you. Thank you. UM, I want to start
Speaker 1: off with what shamanism is and what it isn't if
Speaker 1: you kild just explain that for everyone listening. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: so let's start with what it isn't. Uh So, it's
Speaker 1: not what people depict in movies and television with the
Speaker 1: guy holding the school and doing black magic and you know,
Speaker 1: conjuring up things and face painting and all these other
Speaker 1: things that they kind of depict shamanism to be. Shamanism
Speaker 1: is not a religion. It's not a practice of sacrificing animals,
Speaker 1: and it's not just based in plant medicine. What shamanism
Speaker 1: truly is a shamanism is about having a relationship. So
Speaker 1: the core of shamanism is built on the relationship, and
Speaker 1: shamanism derived from mothers. So it started in ancient Africa
Speaker 1: and Old time Africa. UM, in the old time when
Speaker 1: the earth was Pangaea and women were the first shamans,
Speaker 1: and they were the shamans because they were the ability
Speaker 1: to bring both the medicine, connect to the ancestors, have
Speaker 1: relationship to the children the tribe, to nature, to the animals,
Speaker 1: to their bodies, and to um the senses so that
Speaker 1: they could be able to thrive. So it was passed
Speaker 1: down through generation into men, and and there's still women shamans,
Speaker 1: and they're still men shamans, and they exist in all cultures.
Speaker 1: You have the Sambie people, Sami people you have who
Speaker 1: exist in Sweden and Norway and Denmark. You have the
Speaker 1: Eskimo tribes, the Native American tribes, you have um, the
Speaker 1: African tribes, the Peruvian tribes, Mexican tribes, you have the
Speaker 1: Polynesian Samoan Tonguan. It's in every culture and it has
Speaker 1: been a part of every culture, and it was the
Speaker 1: you know, it was the way in which the tribes
Speaker 1: would thrive because the shaman's role is to be able
Speaker 1: to help each person stay in their autonomy with their
Speaker 1: skills and who they are, and be able to be
Speaker 1: true to themselves, but also to teach them and the
Speaker 1: tribe how to have a relationship with everyone around them
Speaker 1: from the most authentic place. So when you eat food,
Speaker 1: while you're eating that food, having relationship with your body
Speaker 1: tells you what foods to eat, how to live with nature,
Speaker 1: how to be in harmony with nature, how to be
Speaker 1: in harmony with the animals on the earth, how to
Speaker 1: be in harmony with each other, and literally how to
Speaker 1: connect to your ancestors. And so shamanism is about a relationship,
Speaker 1: and that relationship connects into anthropology, sociology, physiology, every aspect
Speaker 1: that you see today in the modern times is a
Speaker 1: part of the shamanic understanding. Because in shamanism, we don't
Speaker 1: just people don't just come in and say, hey, fix me,
Speaker 1: because we don't fix anyone. What we do is we
Speaker 1: help you to be aware of what's possible for you
Speaker 1: through the interaction of yourself. So you're not coming to
Speaker 1: see me when people come in, they're not coming to
Speaker 1: see me. They're coming to see themselves and have a
Speaker 1: relationship with themselves. And all I'm doing is holding a
Speaker 1: beautiful container of unconditional love and giving you the ability
Speaker 1: to remember who you are, why you are, and how
Speaker 1: important you are to everything that is taking place on
Speaker 1: the planet. And that's the shaman's true role. Wow, Um,
Speaker 1: for those listening, what is that experience like to be
Speaker 1: in a container with you and additional love? So I
Speaker 1: feel like when we look at the context of psychology
Speaker 1: or psychotherapy which has had such an um, you know,
Speaker 1: it has helped a lot of people on the planet. UM.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, when you go to see
Speaker 1: a psychologist or a psychotherapist, they are looking for certain
Speaker 1: nuances of behavior so that they can understand a great
Speaker 1: deal about the human psyche of what you're experiencing and
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and then kind of guide you to
Speaker 1: find those answers within yourself. But when you're in a
Speaker 1: container with a shaman or someone like me who's a spiritual,
Speaker 1: because there's different types of shamans and we can discuss that. UM,
Speaker 1: when you're in a container with me, my role is
Speaker 1: to hold the most sacred place of unconditional love. So
Speaker 1: you can say anything, you can be anything, you can
Speaker 1: express anything in a place where no one's gonna judge you,
Speaker 1: no one's sizing you up and saying, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what's happening to you. Or you know you need to
Speaker 1: go on medication because of this, or you know We're
Speaker 1: not looking and diagnosing you. We are observed irving the
Speaker 1: process of the relationship of self love um you being
Speaker 1: an autonomy, you recognizing and remembering yourself and seeing what's
Speaker 1: truly important. Much like the coronavirus is doing right now
Speaker 1: in a sense, the differences, you know, you come into
Speaker 1: a circle. The coronavirus is making people really look at
Speaker 1: what's really valuable versus what they thought was valuable. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing as in shamanism. You're coming into
Speaker 1: a space of seeing like, these are the things that
Speaker 1: I've been affected by. Here are the things I've been
Speaker 1: putting my energy to. Here's the things that I've been
Speaker 1: allowing myself to be subjected to. And I don't have
Speaker 1: to And here's the real me, And here's what my
Speaker 1: life can be when the real me is able to
Speaker 1: breathe and be present and feel loved and safe and secure,
Speaker 1: to fully express itself without limitations, without labels, without conditions,
Speaker 1: without you're gonna get in trouble, or you're not going
Speaker 1: to go to heaven. You're doing something sinful to a
Speaker 1: place of just pure, unconditional love and acceptance of you.
Speaker 1: And that helps. When you create a container like that,
Speaker 1: it gives people an opportunity to truly see the depth
Speaker 1: of what's really valuable and what is cherished and sacred
Speaker 1: within them. And to have a relationship with God is
Speaker 1: to have a relationship with what God created, and that's you,
Speaker 1: and that's everyone around you, and that's nature and so forth.
Speaker 1: So that's the shaman's key point is to return the
Speaker 1: relationship back to people in society and back to yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so beautiful. You know, you talk a lot about
Speaker 1: love and unconditional love and self love and love being
Speaker 1: such a natural, pure emotion that we're created from. Why
Speaker 1: do you think it's so difficult for us to connect
Speaker 1: with love and maintain that connection. I feel that the
Speaker 1: reason why we have a difficulty maintaining that connection to
Speaker 1: love is because we were thrusted into a world where
Speaker 1: we were told we were only loved. If or if
Speaker 1: we don't do this, then love can be denied, it
Speaker 1: can be retracted, it we can be ostracized, we can
Speaker 1: be shut out, we can get in trouble, we and
Speaker 1: we can have love not be present anymore. We can
Speaker 1: be left alone. And so with that initial fear as
Speaker 1: a child growing up in a world where you're domesticated
Speaker 1: the same way animals and dogs are and cats are
Speaker 1: domesticated to understanding how to to live in your household.
Speaker 1: You're domesticated as a human being to follow the signals
Speaker 1: of being liked and loved for the purpose of of
Speaker 1: securing your existence. And so when you have to secure
Speaker 1: your existence, you are not able to step into a
Speaker 1: space of true understanding of yourself your brain because you're
Speaker 1: living in an illogical world. Because a logical world would
Speaker 1: mean that a parent can say something to their child,
Speaker 1: but their child also has just as much right to
Speaker 1: say to the parent. I really would like for you
Speaker 1: to work on yourself and love on yourself more, because
Speaker 1: loving on yourself more is gonna be able to take
Speaker 1: all that stuff that you're caring and stop putting it
Speaker 1: on me because it's causing me stress or it's causing
Speaker 1: me anxiety. The way you speak to me and the
Speaker 1: lexicon you use is not coming from a loving place.
Speaker 1: And so children should have the ability to not only
Speaker 1: take instruction to to course correct themselves to becoming individuals
Speaker 1: that are functional and able to adapt and live and
Speaker 1: thrive and and love and be generous and kind, but
Speaker 1: they should also be able to instruct their parents. And
Speaker 1: because we live in a world that says you have
Speaker 1: to obey your authority figures or else, and it's that
Speaker 1: message or else, people choose to go down paths that
Speaker 1: are contrary to their authenticity. They choose to be affected
Speaker 1: by what other people say versus what they say. They
Speaker 1: accept what someone says to them more so they accept
Speaker 1: what they say to themselves, and then they'll repeat the
Speaker 1: poison to themselves that was reflected to them by someone
Speaker 1: who was enabled to love themselves and therefore projected that
Speaker 1: onto them. And so in society, the understanding of holding
Speaker 1: onto love is literally holding onto grace, and it's the
Speaker 1: understanding that God has given you grace. You have the ability,
Speaker 1: because you are a divine, sovereign being, to choose to
Speaker 1: elect conversations or intellect that is either a lower frequency
Speaker 1: or lower dimensional thinking which is filled in lack, fear, limitation, guilt, shame,
Speaker 1: or any of these other energies. Or you can choose
Speaker 1: to invite intellectual um connection to love, compassion, kindness, generosity, acceptance, understanding,
Speaker 1: and really coming into that place of love, because then
Speaker 1: it's sustainable. Then love is sustainable, and then you're not
Speaker 1: seeking outside of yourself to be loved in order to
Speaker 1: be value. It's interesting I have found, Um, I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of people can relate to this, that there's
Speaker 1: lower energies. I'm more familiar with those when you're talking
Speaker 1: about all of these, you know, joy, love, acceptance. I
Speaker 1: feel like for me, I'm just now starting to in
Speaker 1: my own life become very connected or more connected with
Speaker 1: those that I actually know that I have a choice.
Speaker 1: Like some people, I feel they don't even know what
Speaker 1: true joy. They don't know how to connect with that
Speaker 1: feeling or plug into it. So for my own self,
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to really get into like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: what joy feels like in my body becomes more of
Speaker 1: a bodily experience. So I can start to to connect
Speaker 1: and replug back into those places more when I feel
Speaker 1: like I've gotten pulled back into the lower energies. So,
Speaker 1: first off, how can we start to know that we
Speaker 1: have a choice, Because I think sometimes people here like, oh,
Speaker 1: just choose and just choose a different feeling, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that feeling feels like. Necessarily,
Speaker 1: so we live in a vast universe a universe that
Speaker 1: is made up of intellectual communication and intel that what
Speaker 1: we call consciousness, and that consciousness has consciousness within consciousness
Speaker 1: within consciousness within consciousness, and every aspect of consciousness has
Speaker 1: within it a structure that creates a perception and then
Speaker 1: a reality. So there's no one reality. There are multiple realities.
Speaker 1: And so if someone like me, for instance, who grew
Speaker 1: up in a family where I was abused a lot,
Speaker 1: I had a stepmom constantly called me names, put me
Speaker 1: down every day, you know, And so I begin to
Speaker 1: hear the program of you are you are a lot
Speaker 1: of times when people use affirmations, they'll say things like
Speaker 1: I am, but they don't understand that the prefrontal lobe
Speaker 1: your brain does not register I am as a program
Speaker 1: to communicate to yourselves, to your organs, to your soul.
Speaker 1: But the word you are is communicated as a necessary function,
Speaker 1: dynamic to open up codes um that you've been holding onto.
Speaker 1: So when you're growing up as a kid and you
Speaker 1: hear you are this, you are this, you are this,
Speaker 1: You're being programmed, and when it's obsessive and repetitive, you
Speaker 1: begin to believe it. So you begin to gravitate to
Speaker 1: that energy. It's the same thing as if I or
Speaker 1: a kid, and I kept giving you chocolate ice cream
Speaker 1: and chocolate ice cream and chocolate ice cream, you would
Speaker 1: tend to choose chocolate ice cream unless you were in
Speaker 1: a place of realizing the possibility of something else existing. Now.
Speaker 1: In order to get to that place of possibility of existence,
Speaker 1: the first thing, and this is a shamanic spirit hack,
Speaker 1: is to remove the idea of analyzing your current situation
Speaker 1: with the information that you've already obtained. Because in Shamanism,
Speaker 1: we have this belief that if you go to analyze something,
Speaker 1: you're using the functionary process of intellect based on what
Speaker 1: you've learned, what you've read, and what you've obtained up
Speaker 1: until that point. That same information is the reason why
Speaker 1: you're in the situation. So that information actually is null emvoid,
Speaker 1: and so we have to get away from analyzing and
Speaker 1: we have to go into observation. So every frequency exists
Speaker 1: in the universe, and the key element is in order
Speaker 1: to bring it into the dynamic structure of your perception,
Speaker 1: which creates your reality, which creates your life, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to understand that it's there, it's present,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's relatable to you and your senses,
Speaker 1: which are your emotions, your feelings, your visual, your hearing,
Speaker 1: and your environment. So your ego is what we call
Speaker 1: the conductor of your environment. So your egos relationship with you,
Speaker 1: which most people say kill their ego, which has been
Speaker 1: a complete misnome. In the understanding of interpretation from from
Speaker 1: sanscript and old Hindu text, the egos purpose is to
Speaker 1: be like your personal assistant. It takes whatever you believe
Speaker 1: about that construct and holds it in a dynamic structure
Speaker 1: so that you can be in that playground of that
Speaker 1: thought or that idea. So if you say there's no
Speaker 1: good men in the world, like I've heard women say this,
Speaker 1: the ego goes, Okay, I'll make sure you date all
Speaker 1: the worst men. Money is hard to come by. The
Speaker 1: ego goes great, got it, I'll make sure you'll never
Speaker 1: find money. Me Um, I don't understand why things have
Speaker 1: to be so hard, got it? You want things to
Speaker 1: be hard, I'll make away. I'll take things that are
Speaker 1: easy and effortless for you, and it just gives you
Speaker 1: what you want to define your reality. So it's not
Speaker 1: good or bad, it's just is. And so when you
Speaker 1: understand that your construct of what is possible is influenced
Speaker 1: by what you say and what you experience. So the
Speaker 1: best way to experience anything, And I can drop you
Speaker 1: into an exercise with this right now, my love. So
Speaker 1: what I want you to say is dropped me into observation,
Speaker 1: dropped me into observation of unconditional love fulfilled within me,
Speaker 1: of unconditional love fulfilled within me. It makes me see
Speaker 1: what just happened. Yes, So in that moment, what you
Speaker 1: did because you didn't analyze, you stepped into the unknown.
Speaker 1: So I do this a lot with people who have
Speaker 1: gone through trauma, like in war, when I'm doing stuff
Speaker 1: in Israel Palestine, or doing stuff in Turkey and countries
Speaker 1: where people have been subjected to nothing but bombs and war,
Speaker 1: and they are They come from abused homes and drug
Speaker 1: homes and alcoholic fathers. They've never experienced prosperity, they never
Speaker 1: experienced love. I say it's okay because they always said
Speaker 1: to mean, well, how can I love if I've never
Speaker 1: been loved? Well, love exists as a frequency for all.
Speaker 1: All we have to do is drop into observation of
Speaker 1: that frequency, and all of a sudden it floods into
Speaker 1: our being. And once I do that with them and
Speaker 1: keep showing them how to stay in that observation, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they understand what that is for them.
Speaker 1: And then they all of a sudden start telling their
Speaker 1: ego this is the possibility. And then the ego starts
Speaker 1: drawing and changing the narrative, and then their life and
Speaker 1: perception and reality changes. Wow. That just brought me to
Speaker 1: tears by the way. That was amazing because it's yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, and especially for people who have been through trauma,
Speaker 1: that was some rapid fire enlightenment. All Right, we're going
Speaker 1: to take a quick break to catch a we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back, Love's We were just talking about
Speaker 1: ways to reprogram trauma in our lives. Trauma has been
Speaker 1: a big part of my world and like so many people,
Speaker 1: and you forget that that love is available, you really do.
Speaker 1: It's it's heartbreaking and it's it's beautiful. It's both sides
Speaker 1: of the coin. It's heartbreaking and so beautiful at the
Speaker 1: same time when you instantly get flooded with it. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we spend more time wanting to feel into other
Speaker 1: people's um mental and emotional landscape. Which is why we
Speaker 1: have so many issues with mental health on the planet
Speaker 1: because the amount of expectation that we allow people to
Speaker 1: put on us. We don't understand that every time someone
Speaker 1: puts an expectation on us, it is there is a generator.
Speaker 1: And Shamanism we call a generator an energy source that
Speaker 1: moves energy. So the generator that generates expectation is fear
Speaker 1: in limitation. So when that generates expectation on you, it
Speaker 1: actually pulls magnetic energy from you well. And shamanism we
Speaker 1: know that magnetic energy is what balances your neurological system,
Speaker 1: balances your hormones, balances your endocrine system, balances the way
Speaker 1: that your vastest your body works, your your the way
Speaker 1: that you understand information, and also your neurological system, as
Speaker 1: well as your parasympathetic system, your nervous system. And also
Speaker 1: it generates how and much energy you actually have to
Speaker 1: maintain in the body because your body is physical, emotional, mental,
Speaker 1: and spiritual. The spiritual has to be the strongest to
Speaker 1: balance the mass, the mental, the emotional, and the physical
Speaker 1: and the magnetic energy. The why we have a moon,
Speaker 1: why we make love, why we we have animals, and
Speaker 1: we feel good when we get we release oxytocin when
Speaker 1: we shop or have animals. It is because we're generating
Speaker 1: magnetic energy, which releases um, increases serotonin, releases autotosin, and
Speaker 1: allow allows us to create that very feel good feeling
Speaker 1: in our body. So the more people put expectations on
Speaker 1: themselves and receive expectations from others, it pulls magnetic energy
Speaker 1: away from you, and then all of a sudden, you're irritable,
Speaker 1: You're depleted, your body is tired, you build inflammation. Your
Speaker 1: body goes releases cortisol, which turns into a sero toxin
Speaker 1: that starts to develop certain types of bacterias and viruses.
Speaker 1: Your free radical account goes up. You're the way that
Speaker 1: you regulate. Your sleep goes bad. Everything starts to to
Speaker 1: to go off, and then people wake up with, you know,
Speaker 1: fibroids and cancer and fatigue syndrome and a fog brain
Speaker 1: and depression because the mental health aspect drops you into
Speaker 1: depression suicide when you don't have magnetic energy. That's why
Speaker 1: in ancient times people would dance under the moon and
Speaker 1: bathe in the moon's light. That's why we have sun
Speaker 1: and moon because the sun is active energy. Which is
Speaker 1: the masculine and the moon is feminine energy, which is
Speaker 1: the receiver, the perceiver, the one who brings to you sustenance.
Speaker 1: And so when that happens and you get that magnetic energy,
Speaker 1: you're able to to do anything. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: how many people who I've worked with with bipolar, people
Speaker 1: who were schizophrenic, people who had chronic depression, all of
Speaker 1: these things. The moment we rebalance the magnetic energy charges
Speaker 1: in their body, remove the expectations, remove the aggressive markers
Speaker 1: from the outside environment that was affecting them through their
Speaker 1: social situations, the friends they have, the food they were eating,
Speaker 1: and everything, all of those things started course correcting themselves.
Speaker 1: The chemical imbalance begin to become balanced and regulated, the
Speaker 1: body begin to go into homeostasis, and the way that
Speaker 1: they were able to conduct themselves is an individual. Their
Speaker 1: heart rate was lowered, their body was able to handle
Speaker 1: life in a much easier and effortless way, which I
Speaker 1: call true sustainability. And this is the focus of shamanism,
Speaker 1: is about creating human sustainability. Adaptation and evolution for the
Speaker 1: human being exists within the process of us being able
Speaker 1: to move with times, not to react to times, and
Speaker 1: so this is uh why you felt it so strong,
Speaker 1: because your being is going, ah, yes, this is what
Speaker 1: I need. More observation, more frequency relay, more awareness of
Speaker 1: energies that exists within this beautiful quantum universe that we
Speaker 1: live in. So you're looking at that from solely an
Speaker 1: energy perspective, and that's what you feel is that's where
Speaker 1: we're out of alignment when we have anxiety and depression
Speaker 1: and all these things that come in. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: it's not just energy alignment. The energy alignment is the
Speaker 1: magnetic component, right, So it's how much of spirit is
Speaker 1: operating in your spiritual um, in your spiritual being. The
Speaker 1: aspect that causes those things to happen is because you're
Speaker 1: being bombarded with what we call aggressive mark hers. So
Speaker 1: aggressive markers can be anything. Let's say friends, as you
Speaker 1: go out with a group of friends and your girlfriends
Speaker 1: start telling you all the horrible stories in their life
Speaker 1: that they're experiencing. Okay, and you don't say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I hear you, ladies, But let's talk about what's working
Speaker 1: in your life, what's but making you feel good? Let's
Speaker 1: let's let's let's shift the narrative to focusing on the
Speaker 1: things that are, and so we can shift those energies
Speaker 1: to those things that are not. But instead you're just
Speaker 1: subjecting yourself to that energy. You don't set a boundary,
Speaker 1: You don't say I have a right to subject myself
Speaker 1: to other people's poison. So that's an aggressive marker. Then
Speaker 1: let's say, for instance, in your home, you go into
Speaker 1: your home, the colors on your walls do not match
Speaker 1: the frequencies of what we call your divine intellect. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times when people like I did a
Speaker 1: workshop a couple of weeks ago called Shamonic function a
Speaker 1: teaching people about the placement, the color, the understanding of
Speaker 1: how to turn your home into a living spirit that
Speaker 1: actually replenishes you, not takes away from you. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know about that because in Shama
Speaker 1: and shaman a shamanic time of tribal culture, shamans were
Speaker 1: the ones who went with the women and set up
Speaker 1: the tribe because they would intuitively connect to this is
Speaker 1: where this should be in the east, that should be
Speaker 1: in the north, and so this again your home could
Speaker 1: also become an aggressive marker. Now you're eating food that
Speaker 1: has chemicals and toxins and all types of things. That's
Speaker 1: an aggressive market to your system. So now you are
Speaker 1: taking responsibility to meet other people's expectations. Your magnetic energy
Speaker 1: is being pulled more. That's an aggressive marker. Now you're
Speaker 1: watching television, you're watching the news, and it's telling you
Speaker 1: all these horrible things about life. That's an aggressive market.
Speaker 1: And before you know it, you have what we call
Speaker 1: uh substantial amount of bombardment of aggressive markers. And every
Speaker 1: aggressive marker sends an attack to your system. Your system
Speaker 1: feels like it's under attack. So what happens when someone
Speaker 1: it feels like they're constantly under attack, They start to
Speaker 1: go into fear to panic, They start to create anxiety,
Speaker 1: They start to develop high levels of inflammation, They start
Speaker 1: to burn out their system. Their thermogenic system goes overloaded.
Speaker 1: And this creates what people have when they feel exhausted
Speaker 1: and tired, they feel like they don't feel motivated. They
Speaker 1: go into depression. They wake up going like why am
Speaker 1: I here? What is my purpose? You know, that's how
Speaker 1: you know someone has so many aggressive markers attacking them
Speaker 1: that they just fall into that space. So in shamanism,
Speaker 1: we don't we don't diagnose people bipolar. Your this, your that,
Speaker 1: and label you with a whole bunch of lists that
Speaker 1: come along with it. We look at your spiritual, your mental,
Speaker 1: your emotional, your physical, and once we understand that the
Speaker 1: four pillars have to be activated equally in order for
Speaker 1: homeostasis to return to the mind, to the body, to
Speaker 1: the emotions and the spirit, that's what we focus on.
Speaker 1: We you know, obviously we're talking. We talk a lot
Speaker 1: here about wholeness, and I think that's exactly what you're
Speaker 1: getting into, is how do we return back to wholeness?
Speaker 1: You know, those four pillars are so important because we're
Speaker 1: not taught that ever to really look at these pillars
Speaker 1: of health. We get taught such a watered down version
Speaker 1: of that and spirits taught, you know, through religion. But
Speaker 1: I would love to hear from your perspective, like what
Speaker 1: is God to you and and what is our When
Speaker 1: we talk about getting in touch with spirit, what's the
Speaker 1: quickest way to like to to drop into being in
Speaker 1: touch with our own spirit and with God? Absolutely? So,
Speaker 1: the first thing we have to understand what kind of
Speaker 1: planet we're on. We are on a planet that is
Speaker 1: known as a slave planet. Now, a slave planet means
Speaker 1: that there are people on this planet who want to
Speaker 1: gain power over other people for the purpose of production, service,
Speaker 1: um and safety, security, for their lifestyle, and for what
Speaker 1: they want. So that means what that means that in
Speaker 1: order to gain some level of authority over people, it's
Speaker 1: not enough to just enforce authority. I mean to force authority,
Speaker 1: you have to create an idea that is so fear
Speaker 1: based that you can literally change the very inner core
Speaker 1: dynamic of a human being. So when you create an
Speaker 1: idea that there is a god who will punish you,
Speaker 1: who gets jealous, who will decide if you go to
Speaker 1: heaven or hell, so it's a lottery. You don't know
Speaker 1: if you're going or not, and no one else but
Speaker 1: they can tell you that you aren't. Based on these
Speaker 1: roles they've created and indoctrinated and be able to to
Speaker 1: stifle you intellectually, stifle you emotionally. Stifle your sensuality, which
Speaker 1: is your natural ability to sense, feel, and know. Stifle
Speaker 1: your intuition, which comes from your sensuality. Stifle your creativity,
Speaker 1: which comes from your sensuality and your intuition. Stifle your
Speaker 1: ability to perceive outside of constructs, which comes from the
Speaker 1: feminine masculine as we say in African wisdom, the feminine
Speaker 1: masculine dance that happen between in us, that spirit has
Speaker 1: in us because sometimes men need to be feminine. Sometimes
Speaker 1: men need to be mask and sometimes women need to
Speaker 1: be mask pland sometimes women need to be feminine and
Speaker 1: not lock it in a box of this is my
Speaker 1: role and I have to fit into this. And so
Speaker 1: when you create a God that has these abilities to punish,
Speaker 1: to deny, to reject, to hurt, and to cast you
Speaker 1: into a fiery pit of hell, and then you turn
Speaker 1: that God into an opinionated um person who is judging you,
Speaker 1: then you say, well, if God can do it, I
Speaker 1: can do it too. So then it gives people the
Speaker 1: right to say, well, I can go kill in the
Speaker 1: name of God. I can go do this, and um,
Speaker 1: I can punish you because God would punish you. So
Speaker 1: I get the ability because I've created a God that
Speaker 1: does these things, so I can do them too, and
Speaker 1: we can do them to each other. And so what
Speaker 1: happens is you build what we call a destructive code
Speaker 1: that's programmed in your deep subconscious mind that makes you
Speaker 1: punish yourself, makes you deny yourself, makes you judge yourself,
Speaker 1: makes you do the very thing because you are the
Speaker 1: essence of God. Now, where we talk about Jesus is
Speaker 1: love versus the Old Testament, which is talking about this
Speaker 1: villainous God. And we talked about what Jesus talked about.
Speaker 1: We talked about what shamanism talks about. What what what true?
Speaker 1: What God really is versus what God has been given
Speaker 1: to us to keep us in slavery of our fear
Speaker 1: of ourselves is the love is God is more than
Speaker 1: any human emotion could ever be projected. Because God is
Speaker 1: not the micro. God is the macro, existing from the
Speaker 1: multidimensional realities of possibility. That means that those constricted ideas
Speaker 1: that religion plays out does not antiquate the power of
Speaker 1: the omnipresence, omnipocent and omnitent God that is so in
Speaker 1: its essence, cannot go into bear lack limitation, or we
Speaker 1: would cease to exist. Everything would cease to exist because
Speaker 1: the macro would then destroy the micro, and it's not
Speaker 1: possible because of the micro destroys, then the macro gets destroyed.
Speaker 1: And so we understand that the duality has to be
Speaker 1: removed all together. So what does that mean? That means
Speaker 1: that God doesn't get jealous because jealousy comes from fear.
Speaker 1: God doesn't get angry because anger comes from fear. These
Speaker 1: things cannot antiquate God in essence, and therefore give men
Speaker 1: and people on the planet the right to hurt, to torture,
Speaker 1: to punish, to deny, to separate, to limit, to hold
Speaker 1: back love and kindness and generosity, and seeing their brother
Speaker 1: and sister not just in the flesh, but in the ocean,
Speaker 1: in the sun, and so in Shamanism, we have a
Speaker 1: saying that says, in order to truly know God, one
Speaker 1: must know God's creation. And that's when you're speaking about that.
Speaker 1: You know the wind, you know the sun. You fall
Speaker 1: in love with the trees, you fall in love with
Speaker 1: the flower, as you fall in love with your body,
Speaker 1: you fall in love with yourself. Then you are understanding
Speaker 1: when when Jesus said, you know, to to thy own
Speaker 1: self be true. To know God is to go within too.
Speaker 1: As above so below. The understanding is that as you
Speaker 1: love what God created, then you love God because you
Speaker 1: understand God. Because God's majestic artistry cannot be held in
Speaker 1: a box of limitation and fear. It is so expansive
Speaker 1: and so beautiful and so powerful in the nature of
Speaker 1: that source that to define it in any human terms
Speaker 1: would limit its true expansion. So all we could ever
Speaker 1: do is just go, ah, that's exactly what I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm doing over here, going ah, that sounds so beautiful,
Speaker 1: and it's true. It's so true. I you talked about
Speaker 1: the worduality. I would love to speak on that a
Speaker 1: little bit more. And why growing past that duality is
Speaker 1: so important for us. So you know, and I love
Speaker 1: the understanding of wholeness because wholeness is is the true
Speaker 1: representation of awareness and observation of the all versus the one.
Speaker 1: So it is the pathway of the spirit, of the
Speaker 1: multi spirit that is and shall always be a representation
Speaker 1: of each other and through each other. So wholeness is
Speaker 1: achieved through realizing that duality is created as a separation.
Speaker 1: Is it created as an either or mentality? It is
Speaker 1: that you versus me mentality or this versus this. And
Speaker 1: what it does is it creates two energetic fields that
Speaker 1: create what we call a chaos factor. Now, a chaos
Speaker 1: factor when when something is pulled apart from its original source,
Speaker 1: which we call synergy, which is wholeness, right, it creates
Speaker 1: a chaos actor, and the chaos factor creates what we
Speaker 1: call a void, and the void creates darkness, and then
Speaker 1: darkness creates a holding space for all those who cannot
Speaker 1: find their their frequency of resonance within the wholeness that
Speaker 1: was once that is no longer because they have separated
Speaker 1: themselves from it. Alright, time for another quick break, but
Speaker 1: we'll find more wholeness when we return. Welcome back everyone.
Speaker 1: We were just discussing the key to wholeness with Shaman Dirik.
Speaker 1: So the key element is if you imagine a tornado
Speaker 1: going around you and you're sitting in the center of
Speaker 1: the tornado. Most human beings operate in the idea of
Speaker 1: linear perspective. They were taught by this world that there
Speaker 1: is a future and there is a past. They don't
Speaker 1: understand that the future and past only exists in the
Speaker 1: mental constructs because you were told that there is a
Speaker 1: linear construct. But when you begin to understand wholeness, you
Speaker 1: understand that there is no linear construct and there is
Speaker 1: a quantum construct. There is a sphere of energy that
Speaker 1: is constantly moving and evolving around you in the center
Speaker 1: that you don't have to do anything like sometimes when
Speaker 1: people say, oh, i'm starting a business. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: already started the business the moment you thought about it.
Speaker 1: It was started, right. And so the understanding is that
Speaker 1: you don't people say, oh, I'm going to quit smoking.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. You're always where you are and
Speaker 1: every all the spiritual forces are moving around you waiting
Speaker 1: on you to have clarity, understanding, vision, acceptance, and relationship
Speaker 1: to that which you are proclaiming into manifestation. So when
Speaker 1: you go into duality, you are actually stepping into chaos theory.
Speaker 1: You're stepping into either or this or that, and it
Speaker 1: creates what we call a conundrum because it pulls the
Speaker 1: energies away from you, which creates a void. And then
Speaker 1: people go into what I call limbo states. They go
Speaker 1: into I don't know what I'm here for. I don't
Speaker 1: know what i want to do. I feel like I
Speaker 1: don't feel motivated. I don't know why I'm not finding love.
Speaker 1: I don't know why money doesn't come to me. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I don't know the reason
Speaker 1: why you use the words I don't know. We say
Speaker 1: in Shamanism, a curse is not just because you say
Speaker 1: a word like you know, f this or you know
Speaker 1: this thing. A curse is any time you use a
Speaker 1: word that did that basically denounces your power, that goes
Speaker 1: against you in your power. So when you say I
Speaker 1: don't know, you in that moment have become non existent
Speaker 1: to your power. When you say I can't, you are
Speaker 1: blinding yourself to the possibility and acknowledging that the possibility
Speaker 1: can and and is possible for you to achieve. And
Speaker 1: so that's because you're in the void. And so when
Speaker 1: you're s ing in the void, you're sitting in darkness.
Speaker 1: And that's where our brothers and sisters who have not
Speaker 1: been able to see the wholeness when they die, instead
Speaker 1: of going to the light where wholeness is present, they
Speaker 1: go to the darkness where they feel most comfortable. And
Speaker 1: that's why we came to earth and took a human form.
Speaker 1: We're not here to learn anything. We're here to remember
Speaker 1: because where we come from we have infinite knowledge, but
Speaker 1: we had to erase that knowledge so we can come
Speaker 1: to this playing field learn how the different frequencies of
Speaker 1: lower frequencies that exist which made our brothers and sisters
Speaker 1: turn away from the light and then bring it through
Speaker 1: our bodies and transmutate it through alchemy, change it into love,
Speaker 1: and then we can reach into the darkness and bring
Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters home and bring them back to heaven.
Speaker 1: This is an evacuation while we are uplifting the planet
Speaker 1: into ascension. So this ascension process that a lot of
Speaker 1: people talk about, they think it's like, Okay, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna lift the planet. It's not about listening the planet.
Speaker 1: It's about facing your at It's about going into the
Speaker 1: void to our brothers and sisters who have forgotten, and
Speaker 1: shine your light into it so that the void closes
Speaker 1: and the two sides that were against each other come together.
Speaker 1: And when you come together, you have synergy, which means calmness,
Speaker 1: and that is what we are speaking about. You have
Speaker 1: said that you know if people people can be all
Speaker 1: about love and light, but you can't really be all
Speaker 1: about love and life if you can't face the darkness.
Speaker 1: And I I know for my own self, like wholeness,
Speaker 1: I didn't even I couldn't even feel that concept until
Speaker 1: I turned and faced my own darkness everywhere that I
Speaker 1: didn't want to look. Until we start to look there
Speaker 1: that idea of wholeness, there's no returning there. I gosh,
Speaker 1: it's um it is scary. It's still scary. There's still
Speaker 1: parts of me that come up that I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: that just took me by surprise. I was just talking
Speaker 1: about that not a long ago where I'm like whoa,
Speaker 1: I just I had this outburst of anger, like out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and it was like, there's a piece of
Speaker 1: me that I have yet to touch upon, and I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm still trying to feel into into those pieces.
Speaker 1: So how can we I guess, how can we take
Speaker 1: some of the fear away of turning towards the darkness?
Speaker 1: So the first key is to understand the darkness. And
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that I do a
Speaker 1: lot with my young um and I called him R
Speaker 1: S S which is remembering students. So I work with
Speaker 1: a lot of kids ten fourteen, sixteen, seventeen and really
Speaker 1: help them and also with elder um lee people to
Speaker 1: help them so that they are not afraid of the darkness.
Speaker 1: A one woman in Texas said to me, you know, Sandrek,
Speaker 1: I think the Double came in my room last night.
Speaker 1: I said, maybe if the Double came in your room
Speaker 1: last night, I hope you asked that double to lunch.
Speaker 1: She said what I said, Yes, so you can find
Speaker 1: out what's going on. You need to talk. Take the
Speaker 1: double out to lunch. If one guy said to me,
Speaker 1: uh in Mississippi, he said to mek Um, last night,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a real dark presence in the room.
Speaker 1: And I said, and I said, did you turn to
Speaker 1: the darkness and say so, did you come to look
Speaker 1: at what the light looks like? Did you come to
Speaker 1: look at me? Let me show you how glorious and
Speaker 1: beautiful this light is so you can come home. You see,
Speaker 1: the key is is that when you're dealing with the darkness,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna actually walk you through an exercise right
Speaker 1: now so you can actually talk to the darkness yourself
Speaker 1: so you can see what they have to say. But literally,
Speaker 1: the darkness are our brothers and sisters who are hiding
Speaker 1: away from the light in the center of that void
Speaker 1: where the chaos is on both sides. So when darkness
Speaker 1: has showed, the darkness is afraid that it can never
Speaker 1: be loved. It can never be um forgiven, um accepted.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna start crying. It could never be you know,
Speaker 1: it can never have redemption for the choices that it
Speaker 1: made even though we are eternal beings. And so because
Speaker 1: of that, these beautiful souls who have fell into their
Speaker 1: own darkness, because of the hurt they caused themselves with
Speaker 1: their own inability to see what was possible for them,
Speaker 1: or what they took on from someone else, if they
Speaker 1: were murderers or whatever it is. They're stuck in this
Speaker 1: dark realm and they're trying to get out, but they can't.
Speaker 1: So what they do is they take claim to the
Speaker 1: darkness and they get into the minds of people on
Speaker 1: Earth and get them to make scary movies and get
Speaker 1: them to put a lot of horror out there, and
Speaker 1: get them to act out the things that they could
Speaker 1: not be loved from. And so when we see darkness,
Speaker 1: we see evil, we judge it, we were afraid of it.
Speaker 1: We see scary movies, we see monsters, and they're really
Speaker 1: just our brothers and sisters who are saying, you can
Speaker 1: never love me. Just turn away from me, don't come
Speaker 1: into the darkness, just leave, go back to heaven. Why
Speaker 1: are you here. This planet has a void and you
Speaker 1: came here to free me, and you can't free me
Speaker 1: because you will never be able to love me, because
Speaker 1: I'm not lovable, and so our role is to become
Speaker 1: like Jesus did, to love greater than the fear, love
Speaker 1: greater than they hate, love greater than all of it.
Speaker 1: So we can reach in there and say, no, you're wrong.
Speaker 1: I love you, and I'm bringing you home. And I've
Speaker 1: come here to bring you home. I took a human
Speaker 1: form to understand what made you fall into those perils,
Speaker 1: and I've come to bring you home. And when you
Speaker 1: do that, you understand operation lift the planet. It's not
Speaker 1: just lifting the planet. The planet is holding the energy
Speaker 1: of that void that we've come here to assist. And
Speaker 1: as we assist this planet to move into fifth dimension,
Speaker 1: the void gets closed. And that's what fifth dimension is.
Speaker 1: Is when the void closes, the light shines forth and
Speaker 1: we get what is known as heaven on Earth. We
Speaker 1: remove the barriers, the limitations, the lax and the principles
Speaker 1: of fear from the planet and we step into a
Speaker 1: relationship with love. And so what I want you to
Speaker 1: do right now is I want you to place your
Speaker 1: finger on your left temple. Okay, this is where this
Speaker 1: is the side we listened to. Darkness on the right
Speaker 1: is where we listen to the light, okay, And I
Speaker 1: want you to say, darkness, darkness. I'm here to speak
Speaker 1: to you with no judgment. I'm here to speak to
Speaker 1: you with no judgment. Are you here? Are you here? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They want us two to be at odds with the darkness.
Speaker 1: They want us to turn their back on them. I
Speaker 1: didn't leave heaven, the most beautiful place where I could
Speaker 1: swim and fly and eat whatever I want and have
Speaker 1: the most amazing vieunit views and sceneries and mountains and
Speaker 1: all of these forms I could take whenever I want
Speaker 1: to to come into this human form and this biological
Speaker 1: space suit to take on these frequencies of suffering and
Speaker 1: pain and hurt and lack and loss and all of
Speaker 1: these things, just because I did it because I love
Speaker 1: my brothers and sisters who are trapped in that void.
Speaker 1: And I'm walking towards that void every day to go
Speaker 1: in there and shine my light and be a bridge
Speaker 1: for them, a ladder for them to climb out of
Speaker 1: that void and come home. How do we know when
Speaker 1: these these spirits, these this darkness is is connected to
Speaker 1: us in the end, Is there is there? Can we
Speaker 1: clear it ourselves? I mean I think yes, I mean
Speaker 1: you you definitely have been one that. Um you promote
Speaker 1: our you know using we are our own healers, which
Speaker 1: I think is so beautiful. Um. So yeah, how do
Speaker 1: we know when that is? When that is occurring? So
Speaker 1: you know when it's occurring when when people use the
Speaker 1: word I feel blocked. When someone is saying I can't
Speaker 1: make money, or I can't find love, or I have
Speaker 1: this health thing happening to me, or this thing is
Speaker 1: happening to me. You see, darkness comes in to give
Speaker 1: you what the light won't do, which is to key
Speaker 1: you in limitation, lack, and fear. So human beings call
Speaker 1: the darkness in when they go against themselves in words,
Speaker 1: in behavior, and in the way they conduct their lives.
Speaker 1: So anytime you feel like there's something you can't get
Speaker 1: to or you can't get through, that's because there's a
Speaker 1: spirit governing it. So what we call them, we call
Speaker 1: it a parasitic energy. That means an energy that is
Speaker 1: feeding into your being for your light by serving you
Speaker 1: two so that you can be stagnant and you can
Speaker 1: be blocked, and you can be limited, and you can
Speaker 1: complain and you can say life sucks, and you can
Speaker 1: say I never find love, or I can never lose weight,
Speaker 1: or I can never this, and I can never that.
Speaker 1: That's because the darkness gives you the opportunity to say
Speaker 1: that in exchange for your life force. Because it needs
Speaker 1: the light, but it doesn't need the light from you
Speaker 1: in its full capacity. It needs it in distorted form
Speaker 1: so that it can feed off of that. So how
Speaker 1: does it get distorted? When you think against creation, you
Speaker 1: think against love. The reason why human beings suffer is
Speaker 1: because of malfunction in thinking. It means you think against love,
Speaker 1: you think against creation, You go against you. You say
Speaker 1: I'm not this and I'm not that. That's you putting
Speaker 1: down God. Because you are everything. You are beautiful, you
Speaker 1: are intelligent, you are divine. You are like an innovator.
Speaker 1: You are a change maker, you are a healer. You
Speaker 1: are a shaman, you are Google. You are everything. In
Speaker 1: all things that you look up to or see as
Speaker 1: a role model. You are all those things. So any
Speaker 1: time you wake up or take a word out of
Speaker 1: your mouth, or think a thought in your mind, or
Speaker 1: feel a feeling in your being that is contrary to
Speaker 1: the magnificent being that is here right now, you are
Speaker 1: going against the grain, which means, and if people want
Speaker 1: to use a religious term, you are sinning against God.
Speaker 1: You are going against God because you are taking, you
Speaker 1: are ripping apart, cutting, you are destroying the beautiful creation
Speaker 1: that you are and and and taking and distorting it
Speaker 1: and saying, no, God, You've got it wrong. I'm horrible,
Speaker 1: I'm ugly, I'm fat on this, I'm that. And that
Speaker 1: is literally you going against the grain. That is the
Speaker 1: ultimate sin, and the ultimate sin is to sin against love.
Speaker 1: And so that is when we suffer. We suffer because
Speaker 1: we want to have pride and righteousness over the thing
Speaker 1: that is causing us pain instead of surrender. The pride
Speaker 1: and righteousness is why we have war on our planet.
Speaker 1: The pride and righteousness is why your people going, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't stand white people, I can't stand black people,
Speaker 1: or I can't stand this thing, and I can't stand
Speaker 1: that thing. Pride and righteousness is like staking claim to
Speaker 1: something for safety and security. People hold pride, my love
Speaker 1: and righteousness so they can have security because it makes
Speaker 1: them feel safe in their righteousness and their pride. That
Speaker 1: that's why people argue. Why do people argue? And bigger
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to bigger and argue with
Speaker 1: my with my my girlfriend. I'm not going to argue
Speaker 1: bigger with my girlfriend because why because what am I
Speaker 1: arguing and bickering over. Why am I going to make
Speaker 1: opinions out of my mouth that doesn't support us as
Speaker 1: a whole wholeness as a family on earth. Why am
Speaker 1: I going to make individual opinions? That's because of your
Speaker 1: pride and righteousness, and that comes from you needing to
Speaker 1: be safe. And that is the greatest sin, is to
Speaker 1: not surrender to the everlasting love that is you, that
Speaker 1: is waiting for you to turn into that little boy
Speaker 1: little girl and say okay God, okay, Source, okay Spirit.
Speaker 1: So you are God the whole time waiting for me
Speaker 1: to join you. Got it? I love it? I love
Speaker 1: it so much. I mean, I'm I really want to
Speaker 1: take that whole rant that you just went on and
Speaker 1: place it on my bedside table on my phone and
Speaker 1: press play every morning and be like, this is I'm
Speaker 1: going to start my day. I felt so good. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about I'm gonna pivot for a second
Speaker 1: and talk about music because I know you love music
Speaker 1: so very much, and I think that music is something
Speaker 1: that clearly from my personal opinion so deeply connects all
Speaker 1: of us. So here I like to ask everyone on
Speaker 1: the that comes on the show, Um, we call it
Speaker 1: the Holy Five. If there are five songs that that,
Speaker 1: what are five songs that you feel most connected to,
Speaker 1: maybe throughout your life or maybe it's just in this
Speaker 1: moment now, anything that's lighting you up? What would those be? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I would say the first one is Florida Georgia line, Holy,
Speaker 1: I love you getting into this and country music, you
Speaker 1: know who I love. But my other one would be, um,
Speaker 1: Jake Owen made for you and there's Me for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Wolves made for you, Okay, Thomas Ratt, Blessed. I love this.
Speaker 1: People say I'm lucky, lucky, ain't I'm don't like got
Speaker 1: Derris Rucker rock me like a wagon wheel much every morning.
Speaker 1: That's a happy song wagon And I love Johnny Cash
Speaker 1: and June Carter Jackson because I mean, there's nothing like
Speaker 1: putting on some cowboy boots and just listen to Johnny
Speaker 1: Cash and June Carter saying together, we got ver, we're
Speaker 1: been talking. It just brings flutters to my heart and
Speaker 1: every like my girlfriend, you know, she never used to
Speaker 1: listen to country and when we fell in love. We've
Speaker 1: been together now for two years. I got her into
Speaker 1: country and she loves it. And you know, I always
Speaker 1: feel to me, country music is the is the closest
Speaker 1: connection to me to to creation because it's real talk,
Speaker 1: it's real, it's real feelings, it's real life, it's real people,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not trying to move anything or blend
Speaker 1: any it's just like, this is how it is. This
Speaker 1: is real, and this is from the heart, and that
Speaker 1: touches home for me, and that's when I feel home.
Speaker 1: That's when I feel like I'm at peace. I love that.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, thank you for sharing that, because I
Speaker 1: just love your passion. Your passion is so inspires me
Speaker 1: and I I just I love everything you're doing and
Speaker 1: putting out in this world. Thank you for your gifts
Speaker 1: that you're sharing. And I'm so honored to call you
Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you. I always happen some day that
Speaker 1: we met. I love you too. And that is it
Speaker 1: for this episode. If you know someone you think might
Speaker 1: benefit from its message, please send them a link to it,
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Speaker 1: even for cynics and skeptics. I was on his temper
Speaker 1: Cent Happier podcast a few years ago, and I have
Speaker 1: to say it was one of my favorite interviews I've
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