Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we just
Speaker 1: want Asia Wilson to have all the balls. On today's show,
Speaker 1: we'll be talking with Phil Landis aka Big Randy about
Speaker 1: the Solheim Cup, the state of women's golf, and being
Speaker 1: a dog guy, plus a new woman in bronze red carpet, advice,
Speaker 1: and lots of balls. It's all coming up right after this.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, my little slices. Here's what you need to
Speaker 1: know today. We mentioned yesterday Asia Wilson becoming the first
Speaker 1: WNBA player to score one thousand points in a season,
Speaker 1: but we need to spend a few more minutes talking
Speaker 1: about the postgame celebration and all the high jinks. After
Speaker 1: the game, Wilson was gifted the game ball with her
Speaker 1: parents by her side, a very wholesome, family friendly moment
Speaker 1: until Ace's teammate Sidney Colson came along. Colson had a
Speaker 1: field day on social media, writing on Twitter, quote, that's
Speaker 1: now two balls you've been able to take home with
Speaker 1: you this season, Asia Wilson. Asia replied with quote, just
Speaker 1: adding another pair, and that's when missus Wilson. Asia's mom
Speaker 1: entered the chat, writing in all caps, Asia Asia played
Speaker 1: it off with a classic defense, saying someone hacked my account. Mom.
Speaker 1: Now that might be an excuse that some naive dorm
Speaker 1: room mamas would believe, but not me and not missus
Speaker 1: Wilson either, I'm sure, But back to the balls. Asia's
Speaker 1: not so undercover boob Bam Autebio tweeted out after the
Speaker 1: game as well.
Speaker 2: He wrote, hope.
Speaker 1: Everybody finds a thousand reasons to smile on this lovely Sunday.
Speaker 1: A apostrophe thousand stop. It's Hispanic Heritage, a mont celebrated
Speaker 1: in the US from September fifteenth to October fifteenth. The
Speaker 1: month recognizes the contributions, influence, and achievements of this Hispanic
Speaker 1: and Latine community that includes our girl, Diana Tarassi, whose
Speaker 1: mother was born and raised in Argentina. She's in action
Speaker 1: tonight with her Phoenix Mercury taken on the Sparks at
Speaker 1: ten thirty pm Eastern, and it could be the second
Speaker 1: to last regular season game of her incredible career. Ew
Speaker 1: I hate it so much. We got four more WNBA
Speaker 1: game tonight, including the two seed Minnesota Links taken on
Speaker 1: the three seed Connecticut Sun at seven Eastern and the
Speaker 1: four seed Las Vegas aces taken on the five seed
Speaker 1: Seattle Storm at ten Eastern plus. The Mystics, Sky, and
Speaker 1: Dream are all in action tonight two as they continue
Speaker 1: to fight for that last playoff spot.
Speaker 2: Little update on where that three way race stands.
Speaker 1: The Mystic, Sky and Dream are all thirteen and twenty
Speaker 1: five right now. DC holds the eighth seed for the
Speaker 1: moment they win the tiebreaker because they've got a better
Speaker 1: combined head to head record against Chicago in Atlanta. Chicago's
Speaker 1: got the ninth spot thanks to a two to one
Speaker 1: head to head record against Atlanta, and the Dream are
Speaker 1: hanging on.
Speaker 2: To the tenth spot.
Speaker 1: Got it, It's not all that important.
Speaker 2: Just watch the games and see who wins. We'll figure
Speaker 2: it out. More hoops.
Speaker 1: It had been a couple weeks since we got the
Speaker 1: latest Unrivaled reveal, but on Monday, the new three on
Speaker 1: three league announced the twentieth player to sign on, and
Speaker 1: it's Courtney Vander. Salute Slutie, y'all. The talent in this
Speaker 1: league is going to be so good. Every game is
Speaker 1: basically going to be a three on three All star game.
Speaker 1: I'm pumped to soccer and the Under twenty World Cup.
Speaker 1: The US and Germany faced off in an epic quarterfinal
Speaker 1: round match.
Speaker 2: On Monday in Colombia.
Speaker 1: Down two zero to two minutes left, tem USA pulled
Speaker 1: off a comeback for the ages, with Florida State's Jordan
Speaker 1: Dudley scoring in the eighth minute of stoppage time and
Speaker 1: Utah Royals rookie Ali Sentnor finding the equalizer in the
Speaker 1: ninth to force overtime. After a scoreless thirty minutes of
Speaker 1: extra time, the US won the ensuing penalty kickshootout three
Speaker 1: to one, and they'll advance to the semi final round
Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty sixteen, where they'll take
Speaker 1: on North Korea. It's a promising result for the US
Speaker 1: given how much the youth national teams have struggled in
Speaker 1: recent seasons. Tmusa last won the U twenty World Cup
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: To College hoops were.
Speaker 1: Less than fifty days from the start of women's college basketball,
Speaker 1: and over the weekend, Don Staley and the defending champion
Speaker 1: South Carolina game Cocks appeared on ESPN's College Game Day
Speaker 1: announcing some big plans for this season.
Speaker 3: Take a listen for this group, for this team to
Speaker 3: will we call it raven.
Speaker 2: What's the repeat tour?
Speaker 4: Let's go last.
Speaker 1: That's right, the repeat Tour looks like the rest of
Speaker 1: women's college hoops has been put on notice.
Speaker 2: We've got some statue newspeople.
Speaker 1: If you're a longtime listener of the show, and by
Speaker 1: long time, I mean however long we've been on, which
Speaker 1: is like a month and a half, then you know
Speaker 1: that we're into women's statues. And last Friday, Oklahoma softball
Speaker 1: coach Patty Gasso, a National Fast Pitch Coaches Association Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, was honored in bronze outside the school's love field.
Speaker 1: During her thirty one seasons at Oklahoma, Gasso has won
Speaker 1: eight national championships, including four in a row, and has
Speaker 1: advanced to the postseason every single year.
Speaker 2: She's also been named Big Twelve Coach of the Year.
Speaker 1: On fifteen different occasions and is the winningest active coach
Speaker 1: in NCAA softball history.
Speaker 2: We love this.
Speaker 1: More statues of women, More statues of women, Yes to
Speaker 1: the red carpet Our. Rugby queen Alona mar was at
Speaker 1: the Emmys on Sunday night, giving espnW her advice for
Speaker 1: young athletes.
Speaker 2: Take a listen.
Speaker 3: First off, try mini sports out rugby might not be
Speaker 3: for you, but try rugby, trick, soccer, try dance, whatever
Speaker 3: it is, just to see where your bodies people of
Speaker 3: I think as women, sometimes our bodies are looked at
Speaker 3: something to be objectified, and our bodies are so much
Speaker 3: more than that, and sports can show us what they
Speaker 3: can do. So try it all out. Also, remember like
Speaker 3: strength is really powerful and your body is meant for
Speaker 3: a purpose.
Speaker 1: So Abbott Elementary Cheryl Lee Ralph came with some real
Speaker 1: wisdom for espnW two.
Speaker 4: Everybody told me that sports was not for me. I
Speaker 4: was actually Athlete of the Year in my high school,
Speaker 4: not because I did anything other than try. I tried.
Speaker 4: I did not win, but I tried when nobody else
Speaker 4: would try. But I also wrote a letter to the
Speaker 4: Regent of New York and I said, why can't girls
Speaker 4: have a coach for track? And they said, okay, let's
Speaker 4: think about that. To this day, Uniondale High School our
Speaker 4: track team, we are the champions every year because somebody
Speaker 4: wrote a letter and asked the question, why can't we
Speaker 4: have a coach.
Speaker 1: By the way, to the Young People Listing or parents
Speaker 1: of Young People Listing, Title nine demands that your daughters
Speaker 1: get the same resources and opportunities as your sons. So
Speaker 1: if they don't have a coach or a field or
Speaker 1: equipment and the boys do, that is illegal. Complain and
Speaker 1: if complaining doesn't work, threaten to sue and actually follow through.
Speaker 1: That's the only way things change. Okay, So before we
Speaker 1: get to this golf interview, we understand that golf can
Speaker 1: be confusing for the non golfers out there, So before
Speaker 1: we dive in with an expert, just a quick explainer
Speaker 1: on how the Solheim Cup works because we're going to
Speaker 1: talk a bit about that tournament that just happened. So
Speaker 1: it's a three day competition with teams and each team
Speaker 1: has twelve players. First two days are a combination of
Speaker 1: what's called foursomes and four balls.
Speaker 2: So in the foursome.
Speaker 1: Stage, two golfers from the same team are strategically put
Speaker 1: together to compete against two golfers from the opposing team,
Speaker 1: but there's one ball between the pair and they play
Speaker 1: alternate shots until the end of the hole. In the
Speaker 1: four balls stage, instead of two balls, each player plays
Speaker 1: her own ball and the lowest score from each team
Speaker 1: is the one that's counted. Final day of is simple.
Speaker 1: One player from team Europe competes against one player from
Speaker 1: Team USA, each with their own ball. We told you
Speaker 1: there were a lot of balls to day.
Speaker 2: You keeping up? Okay? Great? When we come back, it's
Speaker 2: tea time with Phil Landis joining us now.
Speaker 1: He covers golf for the website No Laying Up. Is
Speaker 1: a proud Miami of Ohio, a lum and has an
Speaker 1: adorable pup named Arthur that's turned him into a dog guy.
Speaker 1: It's Phil Landis aka Big Randy. What's up Phil, Randy?
Speaker 1: Randy Phil?
Speaker 5: Yeah, take your pick there, Sarah. I am great. I
Speaker 5: am just back. I got in late last night, Sunday night,
Speaker 5: from a wonderful week outside of our nation's capital covering
Speaker 5: the Solheim Cup. It's one of my favorite events. This
Speaker 5: was the third one I went to, but I missed Arthur.
Speaker 5: You know, I looked forward to those hugs when I
Speaker 5: walked in the door. Yeah. Good research there, and I'm
Speaker 5: really happy. Let me just say congrats to you and
Speaker 5: your whole team on getting this podcast up off the ground.
Speaker 5: I know that is no small feet and I'm very
Speaker 5: honored to be here today.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to Arthur later, of course,
Speaker 1: because I'm a certified dog person as well. But I
Speaker 1: want to start with the Phil Randy thing. Your name
Speaker 1: is Phil Landis you go buy Big Randy? Why do
Speaker 1: you have two names?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Great question one I asked myself a lot. It
Speaker 5: actually goes back to my time in Oxford, Ohio at
Speaker 5: Miami and when I was in school. I'm dating myself
Speaker 5: a little bit. But we would watch the Real World.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing maybe Sarah you watched as well. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you remember the San Diego season. Two of
Speaker 5: the main guys were Brad and Randy. Randy was tall.
Speaker 5: They called him Big Randy. And so in our disgusting
Speaker 5: off campus house which fourteen guys lived in, we had
Speaker 5: one bathroom on the second floor. And yeah, one time
Speaker 5: we lost like the main door to the bathroom facility,
Speaker 5: and so this created like a sightline. One of my
Speaker 5: buddies his desk situated such that, you know, without that door,
Speaker 5: when he was working at his desk, he could kind
Speaker 5: of see into the restroom. And he was a very
Speaker 5: outgoing guy and would just love to chat with you.
Speaker 5: And I'm more of an introvert, and especially when I'm
Speaker 5: in the bathroom, Sarah, just doing whatever and one day
Speaker 5: extroverted bathroom.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't care how
Speaker 1: converted you are. I'd like you to be an introvert
Speaker 1: in the bathroom at all times.
Speaker 5: Well, one day, you know, I was in there and
Speaker 5: he must not have seen me walk in, because he, Hey,
Speaker 5: wh who's in there in the bathroom? What's going on?
Speaker 5: I was like, Oh my gosh, I don't you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not necessarily want to have a chit chat right now.
Speaker 5: The first name that popped into my mind, I'm assuming
Speaker 5: because we just watched The Real World recently, was like,
Speaker 5: it's Randy. And he didn't know Randy, so that kind
Speaker 5: of cut the conversation off at the past. Well, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know what I was thinking. Of course, as
Speaker 5: I walked out of the bathroom, he's like, Phil, you idiot,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I don't know. So they started
Speaker 5: calling me. You know, we'll fast forward, no laying ups,
Speaker 5: getting off the ground. We have jobs in the quote
Speaker 5: unquote real world, and I don't know, it just seemed
Speaker 5: maybe prudent to use a pen name an alias. I
Speaker 5: wasn't sure, you know, I'm very conscious of like, hey,
Speaker 5: don't say or put anything in writing that like you
Speaker 5: wouldn't want on the front page of the New York Times,
Speaker 5: and I thought, hey, if I go by Randy, you
Speaker 5: know that gives me at least one extra layer of cover.
Speaker 4: And mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Now fast forward ten years, and I think we've
Speaker 5: been fortunate, no laying ups, kind of grown in prominence.
Speaker 5: H And I think a lot of people in the
Speaker 5: golf world know me as Randy and it's like, I
Speaker 5: shock people. I'm like, well, my real name's Phil. They're like, WHOA,
Speaker 5: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Just created a second life for anonymity that now you
Speaker 1: don't really want anymore, because now you want publicity for
Speaker 1: the coverage you're doing and the things you're writing about.
Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: That is the most dude story ever, by the way,
Speaker 1: no bathroom door yelling out a random name that isn't
Speaker 1: yours and then just deciding to live by it.
Speaker 2: Congrats on all of that.
Speaker 1: That is a circus tail, but it landed us where
Speaker 1: we are, which is where we're gonna go with Big Randy.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Big Randy, which I assume is
Speaker 1: what everyone was calling you at the Solheim Cup.
Speaker 2: You mentioned you just got back.
Speaker 1: Great result, great highlights, some logistical issues. Let's start with
Speaker 1: something quickly I was curious about in the lead up
Speaker 1: to the tournament. I was talking about this on the
Speaker 1: show Can you explain the whole tie last year? But
Speaker 1: it counts as a win for Europe. I'm confused by that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, So the rules of and this goes
Speaker 5: back really the precedent was set on the men's side
Speaker 5: with the Ryder Cup, which stretches back way further than
Speaker 5: the Solheim Cup on the women's side. But each you know,
Speaker 5: you play twenty eight matches across three days, and each
Speaker 5: match is worth one point, and so if the US
Speaker 5: team wins, they get that full point. Obviously in Europe
Speaker 5: gets zero points. Well, if a match gets to eighteen
Speaker 5: or through eighteen and it's tied, then they split that point,
Speaker 5: so half point each way. They don't play it off
Speaker 5: for the full point. And so it creates a situation where,
Speaker 5: because there's an even number of matches and even number
Speaker 5: of points, you could have a fourteen to fourteen result
Speaker 5: when it's all said and done. And so for whatever reason,
Speaker 5: they decided, hey, we don't want to do a tiebreaker
Speaker 5: out on the course, and so they default to whoever
Speaker 5: won the Solheim Cup the prior playing they will retain
Speaker 5: the cup in case of a tie. And so this
Speaker 5: year in Washington or Gainesville, Virginia where the Solheim Cup was,
Speaker 5: the US coming into the week knew they had to
Speaker 5: win fourteen and a half points because another tie they
Speaker 5: would not get, they would not trophy.
Speaker 2: This sounds very European, Randy.
Speaker 1: This sounds like, you know, the place where they liked
Speaker 1: the soccer and the football with the ties all the time.
Speaker 1: In America, we absolutely would have made a tie breaker.
Speaker 2: There would be a winner every time.
Speaker 1: No one's walking away just keeping the trophy because you
Speaker 1: didn't beat them for it.
Speaker 2: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that. But there were other
Speaker 1: things that I was a fan of. We saw a
Speaker 1: lot of really good play. What were some standout moments
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 5: I think, I mean, gosh, it's hard not to just
Speaker 5: kind of run through the team. USA play the big
Speaker 5: highlight once again. They had done so also last year
Speaker 5: in Spain. But they jumped out to an early lead.
Speaker 5: They got out to a commanding through Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 5: At the end of Friday, excuse me, they were up
Speaker 5: six to two, and so you saw Roseang was finally
Speaker 5: playing like the top ten player in the world that
Speaker 5: she is, but was starting to match the heavy, heavy
Speaker 5: expectations that have been placed upon her due to a
Speaker 5: sterling amateur career, a great run in college, she won
Speaker 5: her very first professional start on the LPGA Tour, and
Speaker 5: so I think she has carried this weight for the
Speaker 5: last year plus, like, hey, you know, when are you
Speaker 5: going to start winning all these majors? And that can
Speaker 5: be a burden. She's twenty one years old. But this
Speaker 5: week we got a glimpse of Roseang at her absolute best.
Speaker 5: She went four and oh she was the leading point
Speaker 5: getter on either side, and she just had a lightness
Speaker 5: about her. And I think that was the real takeaway.
Speaker 5: You looked all across Team USA, and I'll credit the
Speaker 5: captain Stacy Lewis Roseng. Nellie Corda is somebody that you know,
Speaker 5: it doesn't usually give you a lot of joy, a
Speaker 5: lot of fist pumps, a lot of smiles on the
Speaker 5: golf course, and that's fine right week to week, whatever
Speaker 5: your style is. Yep, yes, exactly. But it was just
Speaker 5: fun to see Nellie in a team environment. And she
Speaker 5: said afterward in her press conference, like this is about
Speaker 5: the most fun I've ever had playing golf, and it's
Speaker 5: show awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ask about that.
Speaker 1: So first of all, Roseng, I believe only the fourth
Speaker 1: USA player to ever go four and oh in a
Speaker 1: Solheim Cup, so it's not common to win every matchup,
Speaker 1: every head to head, so very impressive. And then to
Speaker 1: your point about Nellie, you know, I was just at
Speaker 1: the US Open talking to a couple former tennis players
Speaker 1: who said that the most joyful time for them was
Speaker 1: the team tournaments like the Olympics or now like the
Speaker 1: Billy j and Kingcup, because they do get to be
Speaker 1: playing with and alongside and rooting for the people that
Speaker 1: they usually are just traveling and spending all of their
Speaker 1: time with, but competing against.
Speaker 2: Does it feel like that's the same story here for
Speaker 2: these golfers.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think every woman would tell you that,
Speaker 5: not only this week, but probably that's ever competed in
Speaker 5: a Solheim Cup. Is it's such a nice departure from
Speaker 5: the week to week grind that is individual stroke play golf,
Speaker 5: and you're just in your own little world. You know,
Speaker 5: most of them travel with a caddy and they might
Speaker 5: have some type of support system, perhaps parents, a coach,
Speaker 5: you know, whatever it is. But it can be very insular,
Speaker 5: and when you're not playing the greatest, it just can
Speaker 5: turn into a burden. It's a very mentally challenging game,
Speaker 5: just as much as physically. And so you get to
Speaker 5: a Solheim Cup and you get to be a part
Speaker 5: of a team environment, and some of these players, like
Speaker 5: saying who went to Stanford, spent two years in college
Speaker 5: and had a great time at Stanford. You know, she
Speaker 5: was very that that was a very conscious choice on
Speaker 5: her part to get that college experience because she wanted
Speaker 5: to be part of a team. And so every two
Speaker 5: years and we can get into that, Sarah like, wait,
Speaker 5: you said they played last year. I can explain that.
Speaker 1: I trus Man, I was confused on that too, But
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, buy Anny all most of the
Speaker 1: time and then occasionally back to back.
Speaker 2: We'll just let it ride.
Speaker 5: They love being able to be a part of a team,
Speaker 5: to have eleven teammates, to have a captain, to have
Speaker 5: assistant captains. It's I think it reminds it brings them
Speaker 5: back to their youth and some of their when golf
Speaker 5: was truly fun right before it turns into a professional
Speaker 5: grind and just getting back to it like you just
Speaker 5: saw that this week with Tamosa, And again, I think
Speaker 5: that's a credit to the environment that Captain Stacy Lewis
Speaker 5: was able to create for the team.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure playing for the rest of
Speaker 1: your team, but there's also so much excitement around doing
Speaker 1: well on behalf of your team, and that includes some
Speaker 1: of the enthusiasm for other people's play that we saw,
Speaker 1: you know, rooting for each other, and we even saw
Speaker 1: that with the caddies. You need to explain to us
Speaker 1: the backstory of the shirts off Celly that went viral.
Speaker 1: Holing out from eighty six yards very impressive, but doesn't
Speaker 1: usually result in caddies ripping their shirts off.
Speaker 2: Can you talk to us about that moment and how that.
Speaker 5: Yeah that I think that was a first for the
Speaker 5: Solheim Cup. Unfortunately I was not there in person on
Speaker 5: that whole I did not see it in person. I'm disappointed.
Speaker 5: I was laughing. I think Max home and I'm sure
Speaker 5: somehow the term like tarps off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, turns to the shirt yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm you know, maybe I'm just old. I had
Speaker 5: never heard that sound.
Speaker 1: I think it's from a show that I actually just
Speaker 1: started watching one or two episodes of that centers around
Speaker 1: a small Canadian town and they say tarps off a lot.
Speaker 1: I think that's that might be the origin. I forget
Speaker 1: the name of it right now. I'm only like two
Speaker 1: episodes in, but it's got that vibe of like inventing
Speaker 1: a little bit of new slang for like Broie, but
Speaker 1: like kind of mocking it. I'll remember when when you're
Speaker 1: done telling this tale of the tarps off Selly.
Speaker 5: So as best I know, and I won't claim to
Speaker 5: have this ironclad, this was kind of like secondhand that
Speaker 5: I was getting. I guess Megan Kang and her caddy
Speaker 5: had some type of bet, and I think the caddy
Speaker 5: had lost and Meghan was like, hey, I don't want
Speaker 5: It was like a monetary bet. She's like, I don't
Speaker 5: want the money if we hole out this week, and
Speaker 5: meaning Meghan and her playing partner who happened to b
Speaker 5: Allison Lee who made the Eagle, She's the one who
Speaker 5: hold out. You guys need to take take the tarps off.
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what happened, both Megan's caddy and Allison's
Speaker 5: Caddie got into it now, Sarah, one of my favorite
Speaker 5: parts of this is, of course this is an American
Speaker 5: versus European competition, and part of Europe is you know,
Speaker 5: the United Kingdom Britain. Yeah, and the British golf writers
Speaker 5: especially can be a little bit dodgy. You know, they
Speaker 5: very much like their golf tradition, and so part of
Speaker 5: the fun for me was just seeing their Yet you know, oh,
Speaker 5: this should never happen in a Solheim Cup, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: come on, it's good fun exactly. I think it pulls
Speaker 5: in the common viewer and was certainly one of the
Speaker 5: highlights of the week.
Speaker 2: Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Though, I saw a clip of a player from the
Speaker 1: European team.
Speaker 2: Lighting up a heater in the middle of her round.
Speaker 2: Is that real?
Speaker 5: So that would be Charlie Hall, England's Charlie Hall, who
Speaker 5: I have a few things to say about this. Yes,
Speaker 5: she is a smoker, I believe in one of her
Speaker 5: practice rounds she was smoking actual cigarettes. She had at
Speaker 5: one point had gone to somebody in the gallery looking
Speaker 5: for a lighter, was provided a lighter. She also had
Speaker 5: some type of I call it like a vaporrig. I
Speaker 5: don't know what the official term for it is. Charlie
Speaker 5: is a magnetic presence. Her Instagram account is a trip.
Speaker 5: She's one of the most recognizable people on the LPGA
Speaker 5: A tour. But I will say I think she gets
Speaker 5: a little bit pigeonholed with this fascination. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: this this young woman. You know, she's smoking on the
Speaker 5: golf course. It's such a throwback today's of old. But
Speaker 5: I will say Charlie is a fantastic golfer, eleventh in
Speaker 5: the world. And I think her story, her personality, she
Speaker 5: has such a great sort. In fact, we're like efforting.
Speaker 5: We would love to do more of an in depth
Speaker 5: profile on Charlie because her whole deal is just an
Speaker 5: amazing person.
Speaker 1: For those people trying to argue that golf is a
Speaker 1: sport not a game, being able to just light up
Speaker 1: a heater from a fan in the middle of year
Speaker 1: round isn't really helping. But fine, yeah, fine. The show
Speaker 1: I was thinking of is called Chorsy. For those who
Speaker 1: are wondering, it's called Shorzy. If anyone wants to watch.
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed Marky, Yeah, I've enjoyed the first couple episode
Speaker 1: and definitely.
Speaker 2: Some tarps off.
Speaker 1: Let's talk Lexi Thompson, probably her last Solheim Cup.
Speaker 2: She's announced her plans to retire after this year.
Speaker 1: An eleven time LPGA Tour winner, a major champion, a
Speaker 1: two time Olympian, longtime Stalheime Cup team member. Can you
Speaker 1: talk about the legacy that she's leaving on the game
Speaker 1: of golf when she's done, and if you're surprised at
Speaker 1: all that at twenty nine she's hanging them up.
Speaker 5: Gosh. I think with everything Lexi there, it is such
Speaker 5: a shade of gray with her and it is such
Speaker 5: a mixed bag. I'll say her legacy is one she
Speaker 5: is widely beloved and respected by her peers and the
Speaker 5: fans of the LPGA Tour. I don't think anybody signs
Speaker 5: more autographs for anybody, especially kids. Lexi is very giving
Speaker 5: of her time while she's out on the golf course.
Speaker 5: Where it gets a bit mixed is Lexi's always had
Speaker 5: a little bit of a frosty relationship with the media
Speaker 5: and you know, however you feel about that, it's it's
Speaker 5: part of her legacy. I think in terms of actual golf,
Speaker 5: she's been one of the foremost American women of the
Speaker 5: last fifteen years. I think she's been a very important
Speaker 5: part of American women's golf. She started at a very
Speaker 5: young age, and so for that reason, again, I was saying,
Speaker 5: how much of a grind this can be imagined getting
Speaker 5: out onto tour as a professional at fourteen years old.
Speaker 5: I've been doing it for fifteen years. You know, that's
Speaker 5: a heck of a career for anybody in any field.
Speaker 1: Especially if you start to get worse, right, and you
Speaker 1: aren't guaranteed to get better.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter the age you're at it.
Speaker 1: You might just feel like, well, I guess I peaked
Speaker 1: at seventeen or whatever.
Speaker 5: Now I know, And she did win a major fairly early.
Speaker 5: She's had major heartbreaks, is really has what has defined
Speaker 5: her play in the last several years. But I don't
Speaker 5: blame her for wanting to take a step back from golf.
Speaker 5: I think we'll still see her in events. I think
Speaker 5: she'll be very choosy about where and when and on
Speaker 5: what terms she plays. I don't think this is a
Speaker 5: cold retirement from golf. But at age thirty, it's like, hey,
Speaker 5: you've proved yourself in professional golf and you're still not
Speaker 5: even thirty years old right now, she's nine, And so
Speaker 5: for that, I'm like, I'm a bit envious of her,
Speaker 5: though the gold is truly her oyster, and I really
Speaker 5: hope she's able to whatever it is that makes her happy, professionally,
Speaker 5: starting a family, whatever it may be. I think she
Speaker 5: deserves to go pursue that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the nice thing about golf is if you
Speaker 1: change your mind, if you're mostly still got your body
Speaker 1: parts working, you can always come back Senior tour or
Speaker 1: come later like you got plenty of years left. It's
Speaker 1: not quite the same as other sports when you say goodbye.
Speaker 5: No, and they would gladly have her back again, just
Speaker 5: because she's such a fan favorite and she still draws crowds.
Speaker 5: You know, you men kind of be in out of
Speaker 5: form relatively speaking. She is still one of the biggest
Speaker 5: attractions any golf tournament you go to, And so, yeah,
Speaker 5: if she wants to come back, she will be welcomed back,
Speaker 5: and honestly, she'll probably be a Solheim Cup cap in
Speaker 5: sooner than later.
Speaker 2: Nice, very cool.
Speaker 1: It seemed like quite a crowd there, but maybe some
Speaker 1: trouble accommodating.
Speaker 2: How was it in person?
Speaker 1: And did it feel like the organizers expected maybe fewer
Speaker 1: fans or just didn't have their shit together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't have their shit together Friday, and it's
Speaker 5: a totally unforced air. I hate that it dominated the
Speaker 5: first day headlines because it should have been about the golf.
Speaker 5: It was perfect weather, Robert tren Jones Golf Club was
Speaker 5: a great host venue. You had twenty excuse me, twenty
Speaker 5: four of the best golfers in the world. They had
Speaker 5: just played a very tight Solheim Cup the year prior
Speaker 5: in Spain. All the focus should have been on the golf.
Speaker 5: But the LPGA Tour, you know, Commissioner Molly Marcusseman, she
Speaker 5: addressed the media Saturday morning. Okay, so Friday was the
Speaker 5: shit show. And really my first whiff of it was
Speaker 5: we were walking out to the first t six forty
Speaker 5: five am in the morning. That is like the pinnacle,
Speaker 5: at least for Friday of the Solheim Cup. It's that
Speaker 5: first t experience. It should be rocking, it should be packed.
Speaker 5: They have a DJ, you know, the music's going. It's
Speaker 5: really the best atmosphere anywhere in women's golf. And we
Speaker 5: walked out there and in the stands were at least
Speaker 5: half empty, and it's like, guy, like, holy shit, what's
Speaker 5: going on here? And you come to find out all
Speaker 5: of these thousands of fans who they had directed to
Speaker 5: a parking facility and the plan was to use charter
Speaker 5: buses to get them to the golf course, well, they
Speaker 5: quite simply just didn't have enough buses. And whether that
Speaker 5: was just a gross negligence and planning, whether that was hey,
Speaker 5: we didn't quite expect that many people Friday morning, I
Speaker 5: don't think it matters, because it just had to be
Speaker 5: better and so right.
Speaker 1: The ultimate results is that we end up with being
Speaker 1: able to without that context, either blame the product and
Speaker 1: say it didn't draw or use the same excuses we've
Speaker 1: seen for years in women's sports, which is a constant
Speaker 1: underestimation of interest, and that results in saying, oh, everything's
Speaker 1: sold out in twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a lost profit.
Speaker 1: If you sold out everything immediately, that means you didn't
Speaker 1: make enough, you didn't account for enough, and we use
Speaker 1: that as a positive and instead, what it ultimately does
Speaker 1: is point to final numbers that allow people to keep
Speaker 1: under investing.
Speaker 2: It's so frustrating, it's.
Speaker 5: So frustrating and I'll just say from our perspective, like
Speaker 5: with no laying up, this has been an event. We've
Speaker 5: been telling everybody in our audience, Hey, this is a
Speaker 5: wonderful event. If you're going to come to one event,
Speaker 5: if you live in the area, get out to the
Speaker 5: Solheim Cup. And a lot of those people were having
Speaker 5: a nightmare situation, you know, to two and a half,
Speaker 5: three and a half hours just waiting in a line
Speaker 5: to get on a bus to get to the golf course.
Speaker 5: And you just can't help but feel like, how many
Speaker 5: people this would have been their first impression of women's
Speaker 5: golf and you just don't get a duel over on that,
Speaker 5: and it's frustrating, well, and it's totally frustrating.
Speaker 1: The Cup presentation from NBC left a little something to
Speaker 1: be desired to what happened there.
Speaker 5: Just short I think Stacy Lewis got picked up on
Speaker 5: somewhat of like a hot mic being like is that
Speaker 5: it it just Sarah for anybody that's ever listened to
Speaker 5: our podcast. Part of the problem in my opinion with
Speaker 5: the women's game in golf right now is I don't
Speaker 5: think they're broadcast partner. Who is NBC Golf Channel? I
Speaker 5: just don't think that they are in a position where, hey,
Speaker 5: the LPG you see women's sports growing everywhere, right, we
Speaker 5: are there is a wave here that can be profitable
Speaker 5: for people too, you know, like it's not just out
Speaker 5: of like, oh the goodness of our heart, we want
Speaker 5: to do this. It's like, no, this is business, right,
Speaker 5: there is interest, and you just don't see the broadcast
Speaker 5: partner investing or really giving a damn at the end
Speaker 5: of the day about the product. And I think that's
Speaker 5: a massive problem. And the bus issue, the logistics, it
Speaker 5: kind of speaks to we have real reservations about like, hey,
Speaker 5: is the LPGA as an organization, are they equipped with
Speaker 5: the resources, the manpower, the will to like catch this
Speaker 5: wave because you go back to the start of the season,
Speaker 5: Nelly Korda having won five straight events, like that should
Speaker 5: have been.
Speaker 2: Ever, should have been huge, It should have been everywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it just you know, on the heels of
Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark, and there's so much good stuff happening in
Speaker 5: soccer right and it just feels like man between between
Speaker 5: the organization, between the broadcast partner, it just felt like
Speaker 5: a wasted opportunity where you have this young photogenic, marketable
Speaker 5: American star like guys. It was served up on a
Speaker 5: silver platter to you, and I feel like it was
Speaker 5: a bit of a wasted opportunity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that the LPGA has
Speaker 1: quote unquote struggled with or had to try to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to monetize and really popular is a
Speaker 1: lot of foreign born players that were starring in their tournaments,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them that weren't native English speakers.
Speaker 1: Made it a little bit harder to stir up interest
Speaker 1: in America. But then you get someone like Nelly Korda
Speaker 1: doing something like that and you're like, Okay, here's your moment,
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing with it? And the answer
Speaker 1: was not much. I'm just wondering, how can the LPGA
Speaker 1: take advantage of this moment? What can they do, how
Speaker 1: do they get you know, you do see Nelly in
Speaker 1: some commercials, You've seen her get out to some events
Speaker 1: where she's interacting with people, But like, it feels like
Speaker 1: there's so much more that they could be doing with
Speaker 1: some of the names that are coming out right now.
Speaker 5: And I think that's a great way to put it there.
Speaker 5: It seems like there's more they can be doing, because
Speaker 5: I don't want to say they haven't done anything. You know,
Speaker 5: there is effort, and it's not because of a lack
Speaker 5: of effort. I just think and listen. If I had
Speaker 5: all the answers, I would probably not be sitting here.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just a guy behind the microphone it
Speaker 5: spewing opinions. But in my opinion, I think, listen the
Speaker 5: LPGA Tour. Mike Wan was a charismatic, beloved commissioner of
Speaker 5: the LPGA Tour who resigned that position to go become
Speaker 5: the head of the United States Golf Association. And I
Speaker 5: like Molly Markusseman. I've I've played a pro am with her.
Speaker 5: She's she was so easy to talk to. But you
Speaker 5: just wonder with that transition of power, you know, I
Speaker 5: think there was real momentum, and it just gets back to,
Speaker 5: you know, from from the top down, is the LPGA
Speaker 5: Tour doing enough to and can they do enough? And
Speaker 5: that's the thing, like we don't know because there's not
Speaker 5: great transparency, But you just wonder about the resources, the manpower,
Speaker 5: you know, how much money is at their disposal to
Speaker 5: really get creative that they're in a TV contract that
Speaker 5: was negotiated for him years ago by the PGA Tour,
Speaker 5: and they just get short shrift at every turn.
Speaker 1: It feels like, creatively though, there's so many spaces that
Speaker 1: they haven't tried.
Speaker 2: There's so many things they haven't tried.
Speaker 1: There's some really cool independent creators and folks that have
Speaker 1: smaller shows. There was a great sketch that was kind
Speaker 1: of flipping on its head the idea of a men's
Speaker 1: only club and it was a women's only club, but
Speaker 1: she was bringing your boyfriend. We'll link to it in
Speaker 1: our show notes for the people who haven't watched. It
Speaker 1: was really clever, just showing all the ways that in
Speaker 1: little baby steps, you can go and try to play
Speaker 1: golf and you'll still feel like you aren't welcome.
Speaker 2: That could be anything from nothing at.
Speaker 1: The pro shop for you, to the women's locker room
Speaker 1: being like a couple stalls while the men's is this
Speaker 1: like gorgeous, luxurious spa. And the sketch did it in
Speaker 1: a way that felt much more young and compelling than
Speaker 1: simply complaining.
Speaker 2: And it feels like.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of opportunities to do cool, young,
Speaker 1: interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to talk about this later in the show.
Speaker 1: Not always do I agree with them, like a partnership
Speaker 1: with Barstool, but there are other interesting, compelling people and
Speaker 1: places that want to bring these athletes to light, and
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're getting in their own way sometime.
Speaker 2: What about a paired LPGAPGA tour.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people we've had that, But
Speaker 1: what if we had both sides bringing all their top
Speaker 1: ranked players and you really had the draw of seeing
Speaker 1: that these women are doing. Like, honestly, what more people
Speaker 1: at home can relate to than watching the guys with
Speaker 1: their drives that you're never touching no matter how many
Speaker 1: times you practice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, God, there's a lot to unpacked there. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: it was it was all spot on. Let me start
Speaker 5: with your last point about the potential of a mixed
Speaker 5: you know, female male event. They have gotten that going.
Speaker 5: It's it's at the end of the year and it
Speaker 5: is an exhibition event. Okay, I apologize. My dog Arthur
Speaker 5: is starting to bark if that's in the pack, and
Speaker 5: I literally.
Speaker 1: Just let my dog in the room and out just
Speaker 1: to prevent him from crying. He doesn't know where he
Speaker 1: wants to be, but it's near here, so we're both
Speaker 1: in the same boat.
Speaker 5: I'm guessing the male man might be visiting right now.
Speaker 5: So there is a mixed event at the end of
Speaker 5: the year. They put you know, they can create their
Speaker 5: own teams, but they put one female with one male
Speaker 5: and you play thirty six holes and it's great, but
Speaker 5: it's not you know, there's really no stakes to it.
Speaker 5: It doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: The best men weren't there when they did it, right,
Speaker 1: the top ranked women were, but most of the top
Speaker 1: ranked men weren't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had a handful, but certainly not like hey,
Speaker 5: just going down the line. And the men's game is
Speaker 5: so fractured right now too that that's.
Speaker 2: Whole live and everything else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, can of worms where I wanted to go with
Speaker 5: this though. And Stacy Lewis, who is a great voice
Speaker 5: and a huge proponent, I think probably the most important
Speaker 5: voice really right now in the women's game. She came
Speaker 5: out but prior to the Solheim Cup and said, Hey,
Speaker 5: the President's Cup, which people might not know the President's Cup,
Speaker 5: it's actually happening next week on the men's side, and
Speaker 5: it's essentially like the Solheim Cup or the Ryder Cup,
Speaker 5: which is the PGA equivalent. The President's Cup is team
Speaker 5: USA versus the entire world minus Europe. And you mentioned
Speaker 5: earlier the strength in women's golf in Asia between Japan, Korea, Thailand,
Speaker 5: China's beginning to emerge. They have so much talent there.
Speaker 5: And so what Stacy's point was, and this is a
Speaker 5: drum that I will beat too, is the President's Cup
Speaker 5: should be a mixed event with that feeling of hey,
Speaker 5: this is a major event. Yeah, you could take you know, truly,
Speaker 5: six of the top American men, six of the top
Speaker 5: American women, six of the top international men, six of
Speaker 5: the top international women, and it would be a wonderful event,
Speaker 5: I think. And the President's Cup has been dominated by
Speaker 5: the United States. They've only lost one time going back
Speaker 5: to the nineties, and the President's Cup needs a refresh
Speaker 5: I think as is, like, it's not competitive, and if
Speaker 5: you introduce the international women, who are as a group
Speaker 5: extremely strong, all of a sudden you have a much
Speaker 5: more captivating President's Cup. I love this.
Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 5: That's an area. Yeah, that would be awesome to see.
Speaker 1: Do you have any ideas for listeners who want to
Speaker 1: get into watching and supporting women's golf.
Speaker 2: What are a couple first steps? Obviously follow no laying up, listen, read,
Speaker 2: et cetera.
Speaker 1: But what are some good places to go and first
Speaker 1: steps to take an entry point?
Speaker 5: Well, I have to be brutally honest sometimes my biggest
Speaker 5: frustration is being a fan of women's golf can be
Speaker 5: a can be a bit of a challenge because the
Speaker 5: broadcasts are you know, sometimes it's tape delayed. Sometimes it's
Speaker 5: you just never quite know what platform is it on
Speaker 5: Golf Channel, is it on Peacock, is it here? Is
Speaker 5: it there? I just want to warn people it can
Speaker 5: be a bit of a challenge right now, and that's
Speaker 5: part of our frustration. But we are we have made
Speaker 5: a big commitment to you know, our goal is, Hey,
Speaker 5: we've we've been doing this for years on the men's side.
Speaker 5: There's no reason we shouldn't be giving as much equal
Speaker 5: attention on the women's side. There are a number of
Speaker 5: wonderful people out there. I would say beth Anne Nichols,
Speaker 5: who writes for Golf Week, has been and somebody that's
Speaker 5: covering the LPGA tour for twenty years. She's kind of
Speaker 5: like the og meg Atkins at the at website called
Speaker 5: the Frida Egg is doing really good things. Gabby Herdzig
Speaker 5: for anybody that subscribes to The Athletic, she is a
Speaker 5: wonderful golf writer. So there are journalists and there are
Speaker 5: people covering the game, but it could use a lot
Speaker 5: more creativity. The video that you mentioned earlier, I believe
Speaker 5: was Hallie Ledbetter.
Speaker 2: Yes, that was it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a wonderful video. It's more of a one
Speaker 5: off at this point, so like part of part of
Speaker 5: my like I wish I could sit here, Sarah and
Speaker 5: just be like, oh go here, go here, go here.
Speaker 5: These are all wonderful. It's a challenge right now, and
Speaker 5: that's something that you know, it takes a village, but
Speaker 5: I think it starts with like the LPGA Tour has
Speaker 5: to have a real vision, in a real drive, and
Speaker 5: that allows people like us at no laying up to like,
Speaker 5: hey we bring us along, you know, like let's let's
Speaker 5: we're all in this together, let's elevate the game. So
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 2: It's a challenge, which means it's an opportunity.
Speaker 1: So yes, hopefully there are people listening who are women's
Speaker 1: golf fans that are thinking to themselves I've got ideas,
Speaker 1: I've got creative approaches, I've got my own sketches, I've
Speaker 1: got my own thoughts that can can do something and follow.
Speaker 2: No laying up.
Speaker 1: Listen, watch to all your stuff, and maybe even pitch
Speaker 1: y'all on some content if they want to get involved
Speaker 1: and add their own take, cause it's really I have
Speaker 1: to admit, like I used to play golf a lot,
Speaker 1: not as much lately, but when I get into it,
Speaker 1: I'm into it.
Speaker 2: It's just hard.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of entry points, and it feels
Speaker 1: like it needs to ride the wave of women's sports
Speaker 1: fandom right now, like you mentioned, and we need some
Speaker 1: more opportunities to do so.
Speaker 2: But no laying up.
Speaker 1: Love that the coverage is as much about the women
Speaker 1: as the men, and love that you're bringing some of
Speaker 1: the fun to it. So thanks so much, Randy, Phil, Phil,
Speaker 1: Randy Big Phil, Randy for coming on.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go make sure Arthur is okay. But
Speaker 5: I did just want to add one thing. If you
Speaker 5: go to LPGA dot com check out their schedule. If
Speaker 5: you live around an area where the LPGA hosts an event,
Speaker 5: that's a great way to get introduced to the game
Speaker 5: and I'll say in my experience, you know, bring a child,
Speaker 5: bring bring friends. It is such a welcoming environment. The
Speaker 5: players are so available for autographs. They'll you know, they
Speaker 5: they'll high five you. It's just a wonderful first access point.
Speaker 5: So I should have mentioned that, get out and watch
Speaker 5: the golf, you know, follow somebody that you've heard of,
Speaker 5: follow somebody that you've never heard of. I think you'll
Speaker 5: have a really good time.
Speaker 2: So I love it.
Speaker 4: Er.
Speaker 2: You gave us a lot of names.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gave us a lot of names to follow,
Speaker 1: and now we've got to find some tournaments to get
Speaker 1: to as well. Go check on Arthur, give them a
Speaker 1: boot for us, and welcome to the world of being
Speaker 1: a dog person.
Speaker 2: You're late, but I'm glad you made it better.
Speaker 5: Late than number. Thank you, Sarah.
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Phil for taking the time. And another
Speaker 1: quick thought on the LPGA here before we move on.
Speaker 1: It involves their merchandise partnership with Barstool Sports, and justa
Speaker 1: heads up that this is going to mention rape culture,
Speaker 1: sexual harassment, and allegations of sexual abuse. So a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I was kind of poking around some golf
Speaker 1: sites reading a bunch of LPGA coverage, and I was
Speaker 1: surprised to see an LPGA times Barstool merchandise club. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with barstool, they're a sports website.
Speaker 1: They've got blogs, podcasts, videos, and a really heavy social
Speaker 1: media presence. They are wildly popular, especially with white men
Speaker 1: and college kids. They've been at the heart of some
Speaker 1: pretty big controversies, including founder Dave Portnoy being the subject
Speaker 1: of investigation in which two women accused him of sexual assault.
Speaker 1: He made a video saying to the CEO of the
Speaker 1: site investigating him, quote your head is going to be
Speaker 1: on my spike, and he encouraged his millions of followers
Speaker 1: to harass the author of another story on the investigation.
Speaker 1: Portnoy was also charged with violating the National Labor Relations
Speaker 1: Act and has been caught on tape using multiple racist slurs.
Speaker 1: They have a recurring series grading the attractiveness of female
Speaker 1: high school and junior high teachers who rape their male students.
Speaker 1: A twenty ten blog post read, if you're a size
Speaker 1: six and you're wearing skinny g you kind of deserve
Speaker 1: to be raped, and Portnoy said of the SIT's quote unquote,
Speaker 1: blackout parties just to make friends with the feminists. I'd
Speaker 1: like to reiterate that we don't condone rape of any
Speaker 1: kind at our blackout parties. However, if a chick passes out,
Speaker 1: that's a gray area. Barstool has published nude photos of
Speaker 1: an athlete's toddler child and commented on the kids genitalia size.
Speaker 1: They've sexualized, harassed, and threatened female reporters, including saying one
Speaker 1: should quote unquote be sleeping with one eye open and
Speaker 1: should watch her back. They'll turn their army of fans
Speaker 1: against anyone who speaks ill of the site or challenges
Speaker 1: their work. In fact, there's a good chance just me
Speaker 1: saying this will result in an attack from the barstool folks,
Speaker 1: even though everything I've said is proven and is fact.
Speaker 1: The site can also be very funny. The site has
Speaker 1: rallied its rabid followers to do some great things, like
Speaker 1: raise a whole lot of money for good causes. The
Speaker 1: college campus accounts tap into a certain culture that's particularly
Speaker 1: hard to resist for young folks who want to fit in,
Speaker 1: have fun, see the funny videos, and be in on
Speaker 1: all the jokes and stories around school. It feels risky
Speaker 1: and raunchy and provocative. It's a thrill for young people
Speaker 1: or for people who have decided that the world is
Speaker 1: too sanitized or quote unquote woke or safe. Barstool highlights
Speaker 1: behind the scenes fights and disagreements between coworkers, kind of
Speaker 1: like a reality show, and they've done a really good
Speaker 1: job turning employees into characters that fans want to follow
Speaker 1: and know more about. One of their podcasts consistently gets
Speaker 1: the top guests. They've got a hold on a young
Speaker 1: audience that brands are dying to get to, which I
Speaker 1: guess explains why the LPGA would want to be in
Speaker 1: business with them, despite their long history of misogyny and
Speaker 1: their lengthy list of former partnerships that blew up and
Speaker 1: ended in either controversy or lawsuits. I reached out to
Speaker 1: the LPGA and they came back with this statement quote.
Speaker 1: Female athletes and leagues deserve broader mainstream coverage and to
Speaker 1: be elevated By attending LPGA tournaments and covering our athletes.
Speaker 1: Barstool Golf has helped and shown a commitment to expanding
Speaker 1: the reach of women's golf as they've done for the
Speaker 1: men's game. The LPGA is dedicated to growing the game
Speaker 1: and providing more opportunities to women in golf. It's critical
Speaker 1: that we engage new and younger audiences. We are trying
Speaker 1: collaborations with the range of platforms that will allow us
Speaker 1: to promote the sport and celebrate women's golf, further elevating
Speaker 1: the women's game and our athletes.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 1: Now, folks want to watch, or read or listen to
Speaker 1: barstool that's on them. There's a lot of content out
Speaker 1: there that's not my favorite or I don't agree with,
Speaker 1: but it's not my culture into I do, however, worry
Speaker 1: about major companies, especially companies serving women, getting into the
Speaker 1: business of barstool, and mostly I worry about it extending
Speaker 1: the time that girls and young women spend under the
Speaker 1: thumb of misogyny. Today's culture is so much better than
Speaker 1: the one that I came up in my twenties, where
Speaker 1: every single sports blog was half sports and then half
Speaker 1: hot wives and girlfriends, hometown hotties, top ten hottest sports
Speaker 1: reporter lists. It was inescapable, and the only way to
Speaker 1: be in on the sports jokes and enjoy the culture
Speaker 1: of sports was to accept or even join the bro
Speaker 1: culture that was mocking women and it's not like that anymore.
Speaker 1: I want girls and young women to get to a
Speaker 1: place earlier in life where they align with women, support women,
Speaker 1: uplift other women, and care more about becoming leaders themselves
Speaker 1: than impress and serving men. And I know that male
Speaker 1: leadership is still the norm. I know that proximity to
Speaker 1: power and centuries of patriarchy pushes us to prioritize serving
Speaker 1: and pleasing and earning the respective men in order to
Speaker 1: move up the latter and find success and be accepted
Speaker 1: and liked in the rooms where things happen. But if
Speaker 1: we break away from that earlier and younger, we can
Speaker 1: create more spaces that are run by women, with cultures
Speaker 1: that serve everyone better. I remember when I read Glennon
Speaker 1: Doyle's Untamed, and I wished that I had had it
Speaker 1: decades earlier, so I could identify all the ways that
Speaker 1: I had internalized misogyny and I had doubted myself and
Speaker 1: other women because of what society ingrained in me. While
Speaker 1: that book and so much more content like that, is
Speaker 1: out there now, and I hope that women in their
Speaker 1: teens and twenties are reading it, talking about it, sharing.
Speaker 2: It, and living it.
Speaker 1: Because when we sell out to places with popularity that's
Speaker 1: earned through racism, misogyny, and rape culture. We continue to
Speaker 1: tell women that success can only come by abandoning our morals,
Speaker 1: our standards, our self respect, and our safety, and that cannot.
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Speaker 1: regular daily rotation of podcasts. If you've ever watched Theah
Speaker 1: on ESPN, you know she's funny, knowledgeable, and relatable. Well
Speaker 1: topics and guests have range and are entertaining. I consider
Speaker 1: myself a sports scal so it's nice to have a
Speaker 1: podcast tailored to me, not a pod where one in
Speaker 1: every twelve episodes is tailored to me. FYI, that's literally
Speaker 1: not tailored. That's TJ Max Clearance rack. This is not
Speaker 1: your Homeboys podcast. Five stars, Thanks Shim Shady. This is
Speaker 1: a podcast for your homeboy, your homegirl, your home non binary,
Speaker 1: and everybody in between. And we're glad that you feel
Speaker 1: like it's meant for you. One more rating, Dogs Infinity
Speaker 1: out of five stars.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: John Oliver's Emmy speech, as disjointed as it was, touched
Speaker 1: a lot of hearts, and he shouted out the beloved
Speaker 1: family dog that he and his.
Speaker 2: Wife just lost.
Speaker 1: It was a dog that was there through moves and
Speaker 1: babies and a pandemic, and anyone who is a dog
Speaker 1: person can relate, even newbie dog guys like Big Randy.
Speaker 1: As the mother of three, two of them getting a
Speaker 1: little long in the tooth. I really see every day
Speaker 1: that I get with them as a gift because they
Speaker 1: never live long enough. And it's probably why sometimes you
Speaker 1: might hear them contribute to the show because I just
Speaker 1: feel bad making them go anywhere. I just want them
Speaker 1: near me at all times. You truly do not deserve dogs.
Speaker 1: Go rescue one or twelve. I promise it'll change your life. Okay,
Speaker 1: now your turn, rate and review. Thanks for listening. See
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Good game, Phil, Good game, Asia's mom, you
Speaker 1: not having a coach for a whole ass high school team.
Speaker 1: Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports
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Speaker 2: You can find us on.
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Speaker 1: Production by Wonder Media Network, our producers are Alex Azzi
Speaker 1: and Misha Jones. Our executive producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz,
Speaker 1: Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rudder. Our editors are Jenny Kaplan,
Speaker 1: Emily Rudder, Brittany Martinez, and Grace Lynch. Production assistants from
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