WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What We Know ... 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.600 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:21.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.440 ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:29.760 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:35.159 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:41.479 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.560 It is Wednesday Unite, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, episode 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.560 number one thirteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.840 We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.600 the Star and we're represented by Geico. It is our 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.320 final show before a little bit of a break, and 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.920 so we've gonna get you guys ready for training camp. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.840 We're gonna play a game for you guys today, call 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.280 what we Know, What we don't Know. We're gonna talk 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.240 about each position on the team, and these guys are 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.080 gonna tell you what we know coming out of the 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.759 offseason and heading into training camp, and what we don't 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.840 know about each of those positions to get you ready 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.000 and give you kind of a roadmap as to what 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.040 we'll be looking for. As the Cowboys entered the twenty 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.120 twenty one training camp in Oxnard, California, later in July. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.840 How's everybody doing today, I'm I'm I'm so good. I'm 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.039 I'm excited. I thought you weren't going to be with 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.600 us for the last show, so I was I'm pumped 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.640 to see you a gee. I send my goodbyes to everyone. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.840 Last week because Nike said no shows on Wednesday was 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.160 like stuff to say, Yeah, no, I was the one 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.120 that was so that was kind of up and down 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.160 on this, Like I was kind of talked into maybe 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.200 last week should be the last show, and then I 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:53.600 was like, well, no, we should do this one. So 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.880 that's all of me. But I'll okay. I hope you 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:57.920 tell you guys do a good job at training camp, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.800 that you guys give us information. Don't screw it up, 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.400 don't make us believe one thing, and then the season 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.760 stars and we believe we see another. So don't mess 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.400 it up. Not be judging from the outside. The foundation 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.000 has already been laid for her to blame us. I 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.480 know anything that goes wrong, and by the way, I 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.160 do it too. Every year, by the way, that's gonna happen, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.000 like it always happens. We always have our camp gladiators 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.480 and then we have to get into the season and 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.000 it's like they're not as good as they were in 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.480 training camp. So that's just the way it goes. We're 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.760 gonna jump in real quick before we get to our 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.200 game where we start breaking down this team. Heading into 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.880 training camp, I first want to get some camp observations. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.960 Cowboys start their mini camp yesterday. They have mini camp yesterday, today, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.720 and tomorrow, and then the veterans will leave and not 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.639 be back until training camp. So what you guys see 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:52.840 yesterday in the practice that happened out here at the Star, well, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.359 I didn't only watch a few minutes of it. I 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.840 got here late, so it was the one of them 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.760 boring as practices I've ever seen, so I really didn't 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.800 get a good view of it. It wasn't I don't know. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.239 I know, we wrote an article of some practice points, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.840 but I mean from what I saw, I got the 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.800 end of it where it was like helmets off and 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.160 it was just like two hand touch and pulling flags 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.160 and stuff like that. So I didn't really get to see. Yeah, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.560 they kind of lured us into a false sense of security. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.919 The first two weeks of OTAs. It feels like because 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.880 first two practices we got to see we're pretty exciting 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.799 by nonpadded standards, Like you know, there were interceptions and 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.440 rookies making plays and Dack is back and all this stuff. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:37.920 And yesterday was like the epitome of why you kind 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.200 of roll your eyes at OTAs because it was it 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.680 was boring. It sucked, to be honest with you, I 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.400 think it was instructional. They did a lot of situational work, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.640 like a lot of the types of situations where they're 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.840 going through the reps in slow motion and the coaches 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.320 are literally like out on the field moving guys into 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.160 the parts of the zone that they want them in 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.080 and that type of stuff. I'm sure it's beneficial for them, 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.440 it's just not very citing for us to look at. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.400 And that's that's probably what two thirds of it was. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.000 Other than a couple of some seven on seven periods, 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.640 it was pretty boring. I'm not gonna lie. That's what 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.480 I was gonna say. Like, even though it might be 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:20.000 boring for whoever's watching, it's good to hear and see 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.600 that they're doing these kinds of stuff because it needs 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.599 to happen. So I'm glad to see that they are 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.360 putting in the work and going back to basics we 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.000 always talked about, and the players actually talk about that 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.760 when they mentioned, oh yeah, this coach is going back 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.600 to the techniques and basics. Players do like that from 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.000 what I hear them say. So it's good that they're 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.960 getting those kinds of basics out there. And even though 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.440 it's not fun at least by training camp, things will 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.680 ramp up and be more exciting too. Yeah. I mean, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.400 it doesn't matter that it's boring for us, not like good. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.320 This is what they didn't have last year, Like the 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.800 instructional on field stuff. I'm sure you can try your 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.080 hardest to implement something you learned on Zoom, but being 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.880 out there and seeing it for yourself, I'm sure matters. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.919 So good for them, it's just not super exciting to 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.000 watch from an outsider's perspective. Yeah. One of the things 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.840 I'm actually going to be looking at a lot this 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.760 year is how much different is this defense than last year? 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.400 Because I'm a big believer in the fact that there 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.240 are people that there are lots of people out there 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:23.040 that learn that can learn by looking and by learning 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.520 on a chalkboard or whatever kind of thing is in 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.279 front of them. There are a lot of other people 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.320 out there that learn best by doing I'm one of 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.960 those people. I learned by doing anything. I'm going to 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.440 learn it, give it to me, let me try it, 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.599 and I'll learn a lot faster than just listening to 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.480 you talk about it. And so I'm really interested to 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.440 see if that's similar to way a lot of these 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.320 players are out there where last year trying to get 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.279 into a new defensive scheme where all they were doing 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.599 was just seeing it and not being able to really 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.479 do it as much. How much that set them back 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.200 and how much they'll be advanced this year and trying 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.040 to pick up this defense in situations where they're actually 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.960 being able to do rather than just here. So we'll see. 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:03.840 We'll see how much that makes a difference for this team. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.120 But I think that does make a huge difference for 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.200 a lot of people, myself being included. All right, let's 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.000 go ahead and jump into our game. We're gonna play 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.720 a game called what we know what we don't know? 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.080 All right, I'm gonna give you guys a position. I'm 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.960 just going to toss it up in the air, and 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.720 then we will start first with telling us what we 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.159 know and then we'll get into what we don't know. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:27.520 Let's start first with quarterback. What do we know? The 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.720 Dallas Cowboys employee one of the five or six bests 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.320 in the league, and he's fully healthy, ready to go. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.159 Mike McCarthy said, he's gonna be. They expect him to 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.719 be completely ready for training camp, like no limitations. He 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.640 didn't take any off days this year, you know, like 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.520 it would make sense to have him on a schedule. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.680 He didn't do that, and they expect him to be 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.159 ready to do everything by July. So that's what we know. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.600 I love how you just threw out that one of 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.599 the five or six best quarterbacks in the league, because 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.160 you and I, You and I and Danny McCrae had 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.000 a long like it probably lasted about an hour conversation 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.760 zation about like where players on this team rank across 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.680 the league. And there's probably some argument that people have, 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.120 but I agree with you. I think he's one of 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.040 the best five or six in the league. Steph Kurry 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.320 is one of the best players in the NBA, and 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.760 he couldn't get into the playoffs. So I think what 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.480 we don't know is we don't know how good that is. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.280 Dak is the leader of this team. We don't know 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.960 if he's good enough to translate to wins. That's what 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.520 we hit. We don't know. We didn't know it last year. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.679 He was two two and three last year as a starter, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.600 so we got it. He's great, and I think he's 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.000 fully healthy, and I think his tackles will help, you know, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.680 in front of him. But we don't know if with 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.760 the guys around him, if Dak is good enough to 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.480 just carry the team to where they need to be. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.880 I think that's what I don't Does he need to yeah, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.160 like carry? I mean he needs to be good, But 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.400 this is a really talented offense. Like I when I 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.160 when you say carry, I think of like early on 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.320 who had no help. What I think of the press 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.679 conference that they created out the front for a forty 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.440 million dollar quarterback. I think he definitely needs to carry 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.600 this team. He's been he's been making two or three 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.040 million a year and then last year he made thirty one. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.480 I mean he's got to carry the team. That's what 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.119 a forty million dollar quarterback is supposed to do, because 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.440 who where else is it coming from? Has he not 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.560 carry the team? Well? I guess I hear what you're saying, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.520 and I get your point. Yes, when you pay forty 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.360 million dollars to a quarterback, you expect that he is 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.080 going to carry. But I agree with Dave. I don't 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.160 think he has to. I think this team has so 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.400 many weapons. I think it's it's important for him to 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.040 make sure he does his job because it's not like 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.200 this is not the kind of situation where you have 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.400 a team where the quarterback is everything and everybody else 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.439 is just kind of like if the quarterback doesn't do it, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.439 we don't win. Like I think this is the kind 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.680 of team where the quarterback has to do his job. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.480 I don't think he has to step outside of what 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.960 he does. You have a really good running game. He 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.680 just got to do his job, I think. Right. But 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.640 I'm just saying going off of what we know and 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:01.520 don't know. If we know he's the top five or 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.120 six quarterback, that's what we think. I guess it's our opinion. Yeah, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.720 and I agree with that. I mean he's in the 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:10.240 top five. I guess he is. I mean I can't. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.640 I don't know where you were going with that. Lady's 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.880 in the top five, all right, No, I don't know 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.480 he's in the top ten. He's in the top ten. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.280 I don't want to go through this whole thing about it, 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.520 because that's a tough argument because you got young guys. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:24.679 Would you rather have I mean, is he better than Herbert? Yeah? 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.520 Who would rather? Who would teams rather have on their team? 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.280 If they were starting a new team, they would probably 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.160 rather have him because he's younger and he's got more upset. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.559 So it's hard to rank, you know, because would you 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.720 rather have Dak or would you rather have Tom Brady? 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.520 For the next five years? Back? What about for today? 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:50.160 Back to win a game today? Back Tom Brady through 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.120 three picks in the NFC Champion Like, Yeah, it's a 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.240 loaded team. He's not who he was ten years ago. Well, 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.200 that's a great example of what we're talking about here. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.640 He's not carrying that team, contrary what a lot of people, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:03.880 the narrative, a lot of people try to create for him. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.320 He's not carrying that team. That defense carried that team 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.079 for a lot of last year. It wasn't necessarily Tom Brady. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.200 He's also arguably got a better receiver corps than the Cowboys, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.079 and the best tight end in history, I mean, or 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.040 one of them. At least. So my only point I 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.640 just like I said, not going to go into the 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.959 deck versus Brady argument. I mean, Brady's unquestionably had a 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.160 better career, right, but Brady's highs have unquestionably been better 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.680 than anything DAC has done. But at this point in 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.000 their careers, which I'm high on DAC, that's fine. But 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.200 when you say which, we're already in the weeds won 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.360 position into this game. But when you say carry, I 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.040 think of Lebron James trying to beat Duncan, Genoble and 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.920 Parker with Delante West like that's carrying. It's like, hey, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.400 you gotta score forty ten and ten or we're gonna 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.160 get our asses kicked. Whereas Dak's got to be good. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.240 He doesn't have to play at an MVP level for 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.839 this team to make the playoffs. He's just got to 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.760 be good. Yeah, in my opinion, I forgot what the 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.280 question was. We're talking about what we know and what 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.440 we don't know about the quarterback position. We know he's signed, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.319 we know he's gonna be here, we know he's moving 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.480 around like he hasn't been through an injury like the 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.559 one that he went through. So that's really impressive. Honestly, 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.920 I honestly did not expect him to be moving around 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.360 the way that he's been moving around this soon. So 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.800 it's very um promising and exciting to know that he's 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.840 looking this healthy at this point and he's apparently going 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:40.120 to be ready to go full go during training camp hopefully. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.880 I mean, when Nick is making the argument about the 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.040 guys around him, I mean, the only position that I 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.120 would think you could question would be the old line, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.680 depending on what happens there and if he gets that 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.680 kind of help and protection from the old line this year. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.080 But other than that, I fully expect Dak to be 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.880 able to make those throws during the season, be the 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.160 quarterback that he needs to be, and also be mobile. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.800 I don't think that he's gonna necessarily be restrained after 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.520 the injury because of what happened. I think they're going 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.000 to find the way to utilize him, especially in the 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.480 red zone, so that I feel like we kind of 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.400 know and then we're gonna know who maybe the backup quarterback, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.839 unless McCarthy finds someone after training camp or something and 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.840 they decide to sign that guy to back up Dak. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.760 But as of right now, I feel like we all 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:35.400 agree would be Gary Gilbert. So let's go on to 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.040 the running back position. What do we know about the 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:41.760 running back position? I mean, we know who's gonna play it, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.920 but first and second string, Like, I mean, that seems 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:51.360 like it's set in stone. Beyond that, I mean, I 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.920 think we know that Zeke looks a little bit better 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.280 right now. I think this offseason will help him because 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.800 I think he looks I think he will go into 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.720 training camp better than he looked last year at training camp. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.280 And I think that's probably a lot of players because 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.520 they weren't doing the same hopefully, but I think with Zeke, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.640 I think it matters a little bit more. We've seen 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.680 some of the videos, we've seen the training. He looks 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.760 pretty good out here. He hasn't been getting hit and 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.160 he certainly hasn't been fumbling, which is what he's got 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.360 to fix. But I think I think there will be 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.120 You just get the sense. I get the sense at least, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.600 and I haven't even talked to him, but I get 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.760 the sense that he hears all the voices, he knows, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.079 he knows. When we put out an article later this 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.400 summer about where's Zeke ranks against the running backs, on 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.320 this schedule. We do it for quarterbacks, we'll do it 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.400 for running backs. I don't think Zeke's going to be 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.160 in the top five of that. No, what there's fine, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.600 You're probably right. I think there's five running backs, five 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.840 running backs on this schedule less better than Zeke. Well, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.040 I mean you think through the schedule, I cook comes 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:59.160 to mind immediately he I'm going with Kaffrey and Barkley. Okay, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.720 you still gonna put Barkley because he hadn't even started 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.840 practicing yet. Yeah, you're still gonna put him above Zeke. 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.960 That's a good question. I think he probably will be. Yeah, 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.400 I mean, maybe he will be. I'm just saying that 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.760 right now. I'm not willing to put him there just 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.520 because I don't even know how. If you know cowboys, 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.920 you think cowboys are more scared of Barkley than giants 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:21.360 are scared of Zeke two years ago. Maybe that's what 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.520 I'm saying today. I don't know. I don't right now, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.760 I would think I'm not scared, definitely. I mean it's 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.520 right there, he's right there in the think. He and Kamara, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.840 to me, they're they're they're they're about the same time 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.520 that crazy see kamaras I don't see Kamara as much 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.600 better than I'm sorry, I vehemently disagree with you just 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.040 based on what they did last year. That's fine, But 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.800 I just I see Kamara as I will be interested 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:52.840 to see is Kmara the same quality back, sure, without 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.040 having the benefit of the passing game that they've had 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.360 to this point, because I don't I don't think they're 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.400 gonna have that kind of passing game anymore. So I 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.680 want to see is is Camara able to do things 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.360 when when you know, when teams aren't having to pay 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.760 attention to Drew Brees at quarterback and the receivers, he's 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.720 got it. You know, Drew Brees has missed a decent 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.880 number of games the last two years, and they've leaned 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.520 on him in a big way. I get it. He's 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.120 come to get it. His game against Seattle two seasons 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.160 ago was incredible, but he's still well. I mean, we're 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.680 gonna go back a couple of seasons. I think Zeke 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.880 has some pretty good performances to a couple of seasons 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.640 go as well. I mean, I'm just I don't see 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.040 them as All I'm saying is I don't see him 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.320 as completely different I think they're both really good quarterback. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.280 I mean, we're really good running backs. I think after 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.280 that you can just kind of make the argument. I mean, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.600 the Raiders running back Jacob Jacobs, he's pretty good too. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:43.720 I mean, so so you know, the Chiefs back those guys, 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.560 you know, for what they do in their offense, I 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.520 think they're kind of all comparable. I mean, I think 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.440 Zeke is right there. Now, where does that rank, like 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.720 top five in the league. I mean, I know Henry's 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:58.240 Henry's not on the schedule, you know, and the Colts 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.200 running back he's pretty he's pretty good. Yeah, Taylor, again, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.400 I don't put him a boves No, now I'm getting 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.480 into the part where I don't put those guys about. Okay, 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.320 I'm just saying about what my point is is, I 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.480 think other than Henry, you're pretty much facing the best backs. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.200 I agree with it. This for this season. I might 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.920 be missing one or two, but that's pretty much the case. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.320 So I think what we know, I think he looks good. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.040 What we don't know is will it will it matter? 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:23.760 And mean when you get to the season. But yeah, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.960 that's like I guess that's I kind of had a 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.240 hard time saying what I was thinking. And it's just 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.640 because like we know, we know Zeke and we know 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.960 Tony too for that matter. We know who they are, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.720 we know their strengths, we know their weaknesses. I think 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.720 Zeke's much a much better player than he looked last year, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.560 but I don't I don't know that he's gonna be better. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.880 So I'm just like, well, like, we know, we know 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.400 who they are, we know that they're going to get 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.400 the ball, we know that they're probably not going to 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.960 get a heavy workload in the preseason. Just see you 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.240 week one and hopefully it looks better than it did 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.560 last year. One other thing I'll point out, and now 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.760 I want your opinions on this. I don't quite know 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.720 what they're gonna do with Tony. I think he deserves 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.960 more opportunities. I just don't know where they're going to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.159 come from. You've got three wide receivers that you really like, 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.360 you got Zeke, you got two tight ends you really like, Like, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.200 where is it going to come from? Where are you 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.320 gonna find opportunities for a guy like him? Where, by 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.159 the way, where are you going to find opportunities for 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.600 the two tight ends? You know? I've heard. I think 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.080 someone said last week that that there's a possibility they 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.600 may use two tight ends on some packages. I'm like, 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.240 that'll be nice to have in the playbook, but I 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.639 don't think I'm expecting to see a lot of that. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.479 Who are your two tight ends? You're talking about Schultz 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.800 and Jarwin? Yeah, yeah, I think both of them will 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:40.320 probably deserve opportunities. I think Tony deserves opportunities. So my 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.840 question becomes, like, how many opportunities can you give them? Me? 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.800 Is just because you have so many skill position players. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.320 If I am, if I have a position of need 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.160 that in training camp that I've got to go trade for, um, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.120 I'm throwing Schultz out there as a truly Yeah, last 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.960 year of his contract, probably not going to resign. It's 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:05.560 coming off sixty catches. I don't think he's dynamic. I 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.240 think he benefited from the guys around him. He's not 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.080 down the field breaking down one on once. He's he's sitting. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.080 He's smart enough to sit there and and makes some 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.760 good plays. He gets himself open. But I don't think 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.760 he's He's a guy that you would lean on. So 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.760 if it's you know, if you if one of these 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.879 young tight ends does something like they typically do. You know, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.720 they typically play well and we'll you know, catch your 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.760 eye or something like that. Jarwin comes back, sprinkle does 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.680 his job and all that. Then Yeah, I think it's 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.679 a it's a position that you might be able to 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.760 trade for if somebody needs a tight end or something 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.800 like that. I'd rather not. I like the idea having 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.080 both of them. And actually our mail bag is about 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.479 this today. I looked it up and not it's skewed 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.800 because of all the injuries last year. But they were 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.200 in twelve personnel twenty one percent of the time last year, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.800 Like they really leaned into eleven personnel understandably. Is that 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.719 also okay? Sure? Yeah, I mean, like injuries are part 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.919 of that. They didn't have Jarwin. So now you know, 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.120 with Jarwin and Schultz available, I think you could tick 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.760 that up even maybe north of thirty percent if you 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.960 wanted to. And I think it all works. Jarwin you 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:08.840 can also flex him out and use him as a 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.040 big receiver if you want to, Like I don't worry 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.400 about the passing game. I think there's plenty of opportunities 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.960 for all of that. Tony's interesting. I like, they're not 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:18.720 they're not gonna use him in the passing game in 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.679 any sort of creative sense. I got to see that 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.800 to believe it. But yeah, you say the day you're 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.159 not believing him. I mean you started practice. He was 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.080 out there running slants yesterday. But there's five injured receivers, 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.320 like you know, show me this in the season. I 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.879 don't care what you're doing in the spring. But you 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.280