WEBVTT - Friends from The Hill 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:07.000 Wind down and Michael and I'm radio podcast. All right, 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.440 So this is a really fun episode because well for 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.600 the tree Hillers, I mean for everybody, but for everybody. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.400 But it's like, you know, so many of your fans 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.599 and following are tree Hillers, and they're loyal, so they're 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.160 always wanting to hear from former cast mates from the show. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.080 And we have two awesome, awesome guys to Yeah, we're 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.360 going to have James Lafferty and Stephen COLLETTI um coming 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.879 on the show because they've got a new show on 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.640 Hulu right now. Um. Everyone's doing great. It's a really 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.960 really good show. So um, I'm excited to talk to 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.120 those dudes. But how are you feeling. We're about to 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.080 go to Canada this week? We are, I'm I'm excited. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.480 I'm excited for the change. I'm excited for as we're 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.959 just as sounds. It's kind of a sense of normalcy, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.120 right because we're used to traveling, were used to like 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.960 going places and doing things. So and Jason has become 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.040 such I mean the kids O. But Jason really is 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:03.880 a homebody because he's not used to traveling. Yeah, we 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.000 go anywhere in two seconds out He's like home home. Yeah, 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.960 thirty minutes stops and he's like home. So it'll be 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.520 good for him to change things out because once, you know, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.960 traveling is a little bit more back to normal and 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:17.759 we're traveling more. We always try to take the kids 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.440 when we can if we're gone for a decent period 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.760 of time, so we want them to get used to that, 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:26.959 like Jolia is, Yeah, and I think I don't know, Yes, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.880 I just wish that there wasn't the quarantine period because 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.920 it just adds because we have to quarantine for two weeks. Yeah, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.880 and it's not I mean, honestly, that's not the part 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.240 that's giving me anxiety because I mean we pretty much 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.440 a quarantine here anyways. I mean we don't go anywhere 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.280 minus like the grocery store here there, or like Jolie's, 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.000 you know. I mean we go a few places, but 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.720 it's not maybe out to dinner once every two weeks. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.240 But I don't know, it's not like it's going to 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.480 totally change. But I think just having to be being 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.520 told that you can't do something is what gives me anxiety. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.760 So it's like you have to stay in this house 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.560 for two weeks and you can't leave, like automatically, I'm 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.680 like boom anxiety because I'm like, well, what if this happens, 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.560 what if like we don't even have a car, Like 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.640 what if something happens with the kids, like hello, emergencies 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.239 in the middle of the night, you know. So I'm 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.760 just starting to like freak out about that. So I 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.000 just actually emailed production because I was like, as if 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.720 there is something that happens in the the middle of the night, 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.120 like I'm not gonna be able to sleep knowing just 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.200 in case something happened. No, for sure, I think they 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.000 need to understand that with two kids, like I don't 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.800 care if they have a doctor on call, Like if 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.840 we have to go, we have to go, so just 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.920 to be able to have a car, they're accessible, and 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.160 you know, we're adults, we're professionals. We're not going to 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.000 go anywhere if they say don't go anywhere. Yeah you 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.639 know what I mean, Like we're not going to jeopardize 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:53.120 the production or the movie that you're doing to be selfish. Yeah, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.760 you know what I mean. It's just I don't know, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.000 I don't know why. I just have I have so 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.040 much anxiety around it, and you know, kind of like 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.440 we said, it's not our space. And but at least 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.160 it's better than it's better than what some I know 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.720 some people are they have to quarantine in their hotel 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.520 room and for two weeks. I'm like that, I for 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.200 sure like I would. I wouldn't do it. I couldn't 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.120 do it. I would lose my mind. I mean, it's 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:22.600 like being in a jail. I mean even mattress right, 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:27.760 even me, who you know, loves to contain his excitement, 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.919 and he's dropping her off, like singing, pull him out 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.240 her luggage and everything. He's like, all right, have the 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.160 most wonderful time. And she's like, no, put my bags 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.880 back in the car. I'm not going anywhere. You're too 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.200 him happy, Let's go home. And then on the way 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.240 home he's just miserable. And then you talked about at 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.040 lunch with his buddies, like the next day they're like, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.440 you're too happy. You gotta contain it. Everyone knows you 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.560 gotta contain. It's like I'm gonna miss you, when really 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.720 you're like high fiving yourself inside. It was pretty funny. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.160 That is funny. Huh yeah. But we're gonna be together. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.000 It's gonna be great. No, the that we're gonna be together. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.600 I mean because there had been I couldn't leave without 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:09.839 my kiddos and family. So I'm super excited. Um, so yeah, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.400 we're heading off to Canada this week. Guys, you were 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.880 from here on out, the episodes are going to be 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.400 recorded in Canaday. They're all going to be in French. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.480 That would be awesome. Do the speak French and Vancouver 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.800 that I thought that was more Quebec where we went 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.640 last time. Um, yeah, it's more of the eastern Canada. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.279 But but still that was you know, a lot of 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.560 that was French territory in general, so I still think 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.719 there's more French. I guess there's more French than there's 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:45.080 like Spanish. Sure, Um hey, guys, did anyone get my 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.720 one brick Wines? If you didn't get him, now, well 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.760 don't you update this? How's that going? It's going really good? Yeah? Yeah, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.520 we have a red blend, very inexpensive, low sugar, low 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.839 and sulf fates. I'm excited. Good. The sales are good. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.200 Sales are doing good because I've been, I've been. People 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.599 are liking it. So that's what's exciting about it. That 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.440 is that is awesome because it's fantast it's so good. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.080 It's fantastic. Well, we have like the best wine maker 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.640 too from Napa that did the you know, helped create 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.360 the wine with me. So I've been and the fact 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.680 that it's a little sugar makes me super happy. But 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.800 I'm excited for you that it's doing well because this 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.919 was like your baby. This was out of all the 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.960 things that you're doing. I know you really want this too, 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.520 you know, take off and be sustainable because it's something 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.200 that you're so passionate about. I do like my wine. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.679 So um, and Michael is working on his hat business. Y'all, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.480 it's gonna be good. It's going to be excited. We're 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.680 gonna you know. It's just we love you guys, that's all. 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.400 So we just thank you for your support. So before 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.720 we get um, James and Stephen on, you know, is 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.000 it is it feel like kind of like when you're 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.560 on a show like that, does it almost feel like 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.200 a high school reunion? Not that based regardless of that 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.240 was based in high school, but you know, it feels 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.160 like you're seeing these friends from a long time ago. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.440 It just has that sense of like a high school 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:13.680 reunion for sure. I mean, I was definitely closest to 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.520 Stephen obviously, because I spent I did all my scenes 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.960 with Stephen. Um, I had very few scenes with James. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.440 So and like when I was in the show, it was, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.560 you know there there was just some not cattiness, but 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.520 just like you can't talk to this person if you're 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.920 friends with this person, and so it just became like 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:38.479 a So I wasn't very close to James because of 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.240 certain situations on the set at the time, But now, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.680 I mean everyone's really close, and it's kind of frustrating 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.920 because I'm like, why couldn't we have all been friends then? 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.640 And you made like the Nevies life a little bit 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.880 of hell. But it's cool al right, because you couldn't 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.240 make up your mind for yourself because you as soon 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.640 as you got in there, whoever you stuck with, you 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.480 have to stick with. But now it's like annoying because 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.560 they're like, we're all friends now out and I'm just 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.480 like you one person literally made it hell for us 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:08.160 because if we chose the wrong friend, we would be destroyed. 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.320 So you know, now it's like, you know, well, now 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:20.120 everyone's adults, but that's very true. Yeah, so um, which 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.160 makes you just laugh at those things when you think 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.560 about your anyone's past in general, right, the cattiness or 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.800 the clickiness of things in high school in that age 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.280 and young twenties, you're like why, You're like, why can't 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.040 I have the knowledge I have the day and be like, um, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.880 You're an idiot for thinking that, And I'm going to 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.760 talk to however, I want to know it's so true 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.600 because but I mean, like going on, I mean, we 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.880 me Chantala and Rob came on season seven, so it's 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.840 like they've already had six years to form these catrets 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.760 and connections and you know, all these things. So it's 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.200 like we're just coming in like dipping our toes in, 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.040 like I don't want to make a mistake, you know, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.480 but get that now though, it's nice, like you know, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.480 now that I've been able to spend more time with 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.480 James on conventions and you know, just being able to 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.760 you know, hang out, and it's you know, they're awesome. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.280 But yeah, Stephen and I are like we're like, kin, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.120 you know, I think what's cool too, And I mean 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.840 just from their one convention I went with you two 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.880 last year and then also meeting Chantelle and meeting these 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.520 guys and a bunch of people in the cast. Um, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:33.280 everyone was just so nice, Like everyone was really approachable, friendly. Um, 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:38.040 you know, you know, reciprocated in the conversation and questions 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.719 and everything. It wasn't just one sided and anything when 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.680 I was meeting any of these people. So that, you know, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.120 that just goes to show the kind of some of 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.520 the character the people that I've met that you were 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.520 able to work with. Yeah. So, and James and Stephen 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.800 are definitely two of those guys, you know, So let's 0:08:54.960 --> 0:09:09.120 take a break and get them on all right, Tree Hillers. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.440 We've waited long enough. UM. So excited because James Lafferty 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.240 and Stephen COLLETTI are going to be on the show today. 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.800 So I remember they were working on Everyone is doing great. Yeah, 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.800 And last time we talked to both of them was 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:27.760 almost a year ago, was last February one Tree Hill conventiontion. Yeah. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.200 So I'm just so proud of them because that Everyone's 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.280 doing great. Um got picked up by Hulu, and you know, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.720 I have a little piece of that world with like 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.920 pitching show. I mean, me and Brian who was on 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.440 the show about um the first of the year, about 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.360 Love Addict. So we we had a show we were 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.760 working on. It is hard to pitch a show. I 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.680 mean we went to HBO, we went to Hulu, we 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.679 went to Amazon, like you know, you you go in 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.760 there and it's just like then they'll give you notes 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.839 with then this other network on something else. So I mean, 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.360 it is so incredibly hard. I think I was something 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.520 about The Queen's Gambit that was passed on like for 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.719 ten years or something crazy like that, So I mean 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.080 it's and then there was another show too, and I 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.360 know that's not the right amount time, but it was 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.720 something where it's so crazy. Um, even the Stranger Things 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.600 that was passed on a million times. So to be 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.560 able to have a show picked up on a network 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.360 nowadays is so hard. And I'm so proud of them 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.560 because these dudes are They're great guys. I mean I 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.120 was obviously closer with Stephen filming because he was my 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.840 scene partner. I didn't do much with James, UM, but 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.640 I love both of them. I'm so proud of them. Um, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.199 and James just got engaged, which is awesome to a beautiful, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:48.760 girlish actress. And then Stephen, I believe he's still kicking 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.480 it man, just in the single life but we have 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.280 some questions that came in from our Instagram to ask them. So, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.880 did you see any on Yeah, there's definitely some on 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.880 here that are that are sticking out to me. So 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.320 as we're talking to him, I'll pepper these in there. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:08.120 Anything about Kristen, Yeah, there's one about you know, Stephen 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.439 being pictured with Kristin at dinner recently or whatever. And 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.800 you know, I think he already addressed that and said 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.160 they're just good friends. Um, But now there's there's a 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.120 bunch on here, and it's so funny. I mean, people 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.440 love the Tree Hillers man. Oh yeah, I mean, and 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.120 I think too James had I don't want to make 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.920 this up, but I'm pretty sure James had a tough 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.080 time coming off of One Tree Hill because he was 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.280 so typecasted. Because I can imagine you being on a 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:39.480 show like that that long and being super typecasted. Yeah, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.240 And I've always been someone on the outside of the industry. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.840 I've always wondered that it's like some of these shows 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.559 that do so well, especially if it's like your your 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.720 big break, you know, later down the road, does that 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.000 plague you, you know, does that hurt you in a sense? 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.920 You know, I mean it's kind of like, you know, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.680 our buddy Bob. Second, it's like you kind of just 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.760 have to embrace it after a while. It's like, okay, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.920 I'm Danny Tanner. And but then again, you know, and 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.040 I know Uncle Jesse wanted to do the farthest thing 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.439 from Uncle Jesse. But then they obviously they did a rething, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.520 you know, um, a reunion, and they filmed again because 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.880 Fuller House, because people love it, like people love to 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.720 see that character. So it's kind of like, all right, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.319 you just have to embrace it a little bit. But Okay, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.200 I'm so excited because when I saw I think it 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.480 was I was stalking your page, James. Sorry Stephen, but um, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:41.520 James posts a little bit more. But um, I saw that, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.640 you know, everyone is doing great was picked up on 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.680 Hulu and I I literally out loud. I was like, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.280 oh my god, yes, Like I was so excited for 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.640 you guys because I know it's been a work in 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.480 progress and it's been I mean, how many years has 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:59.400 it been now even working on it? Four four? I think, yeah, yeah, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.319 I think it's it's coming up on four like the 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.360 next month. I think since we shot, so I think 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.680 we shot the pilot in April of two thousand seventeen, 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.360 and then we got together because you guys were doing 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.079 more of you were raising more money for it, right 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.880 to shoot the some some episodes of it. Is that 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.640 that was did We did the crowdfunding for additional episodes, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.120 and you were kind enough to come in and do 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.960 one of our live watches, which those were very popular 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.640 for us. That was that was that was huge, um, 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.840 instrumental part of our campaign and it was nice to 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.120 get that, you know, the One Trail community on board 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.679 and have you guys come out and help us out 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.320 and do those live watches like it was fun. I mean, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:36.920 we don't get to see each other too often, so 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.520 it was nice to have an excuse to get together. Yeah, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.320 and it was definitely fun. I'm curious though, because in 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.040 those four years, was there ever kind of like that 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.520 should we just stop like is this you know, we're 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.440 pitching it, we're trying to do this, we're not getting 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.240 or was it like, hey, no, we've got traction and 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:55.959 this is all good. Or did you ever have that 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:01.280 moment where you're like, I like, this isn't going to happen. Yeah? Yeah, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:02.920 I think that was the that was the hardest part 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.760 of it all. The work um was amazing, and just 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.520 getting to do what we love to do was was 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.160 incredible every step of the way. Um, there were growing 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.520 pains for sure, and UM there were a lot of 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.199 challenges and things we had to learn a long way, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.040 but it always felt it always felt good because we 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.120 were learning and because we we did feel like we 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.360 were towards something. But I do think the uncertainty of 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.880 it all was the hardest part, um of just really 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.600 not knowing, um where this was headed. We we never knew. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.520 We always wanted it to be on Hulu, but we 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.280 never knew that we were going to get there. We 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.320 always felt like we were a long shot at best. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.880 Um And in fact, you know, we were totally prepared 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.640 to just self distribute and see how that went, which 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.120 is a much tougher road. UM. So so yeah, I 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.160 mean I think that there were never moments where we 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.880 just wanted to throw our hands up and give up. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.960 But there were definitely moments where I won't speak for Stephen, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.720 but at least for myself, it was like, Okay, what 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.680 do we really doing here? Like how was this going 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.320 to end? Because it just sort of felt like it 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.800 was going on and on with no real life at 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.880 the end of the tunnel, Stephen, what about for you? Yeah, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:11.200 I mean, um, for me, we always had that plan 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.400 of self distribution. That was the like, all right, the 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.760 last plan. Um, if we feel like we've we've you know, 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.360 exhausted all options and we feel like we've gotten our 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.480 fair shot, Um, then what you know, we'll self distribute, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.440 which which is you know, which is fine? And again 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.920 it's it's still the accomplishment was really for us to 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.240 get the money to shoot the thing. I mean, and 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.840 and there was points in that campaign where we're doing 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.160 the indieog campaign where I was like, oh, man, like 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:38.840 this is we knew it was gonna be a big task, 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.240 but this is a lot bigger than than we expected. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.560 And it was really really hard. Um, but you know, 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.560 we're we're grateful for the people that jump board to 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.800 help us out and you know kind of propel us. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.480 But you know, you're you're asking money for forty five days, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.520 so you know, um, you know, we can't do live 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.560 watches for forty five days straight, although that would have 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.680 been fun. We've got have hung out a couple more times, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.280 but um, you know, there are those days is where 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.560 you're supposed to be kind of getting content there and 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.280 driving it every day, and you're like, ah, already i 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.320 am not on social media that much, and now I'm 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.360 on here every single day I ask people for money. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.000 She got a little overwhelmed. But again, at the end, 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.760 goal there, for for the for the show, um was 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.360 what continue to drive us. And then there were these 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.960 moments along the way that like we're so unexpected, and 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.960 whether it's like Janet you coming in and doing the 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.480 live watch and that being very lucrative for us, or 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.440 being at some TV festival and James and I literally 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.040 sitting in a lounge at one point frustrated because we 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.160 can't get this video on YouTube and just a couple 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.160 of knuckleheads trying to you know, trying to work the internet, 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:36.920 and a woman had come up to us and had 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.240 just seen the screening and she just started talking to 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.000 us casually. Thankfully we were nice to her, because then 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.400 ten minutes later she's like, well, she's like, let me 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.360 see your campaign, and she wind up donating over twenty 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.640 dollars in that mone and so it's just, you know, 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.520 it's one of those things where, uh, lesson I learned 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.560 there is like you know, the perseverance, Like even when 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.840 you feel down, you know you've got to continue to strive, strive, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:00.920 and if you need to seek help, see get you know, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.360 get get your friends. You know, to be honest with 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.840 with yourself and your friends about you know, where you 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.879 might be or what you might need. And as long 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.760 as you're kind of putting yourself out there and you're 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.840 working hard, you know, things will happen, maybe not like 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.679 you expected, but still amazing things will happen. With the 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.919 timeline being, you know, the past four years working on 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.040 this project, how much, if at all, has the concept 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.200 around it changed, Like from day one of you guys 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.520 you know, having this idea and being to what it 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.040 is now. M hmm. I think the concept has stayed 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.760 pretty um, pretty consistent. I mean, we we always knew 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.399 what kind of show we wanted it to be. We 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.720 always knew we wanted it to feel dry. Um, you know, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.800 in terms of its humor, we we knew that the 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.920 humor was going to come from like those little moments 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.520 when people don't know what to say to each other 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.000 instead of delivering punchlines. Um, we knew that we wanted 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.920 it to feel raw and awkward. UM and uh and 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.520 and sort of make you squirm a little bit. You know. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.159 That's the kind of humor that we're really drawn to. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.080 That's the kind of Those are the kind of shows 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.320 that really inspired us to make this show. UM. But 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.520 I will say that like one thing that really I 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.600 guess pleasantly surprised us and and opened up the whole 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.840 process for us was when we actually got to set 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:12.199 and shooting that first the first season was UM. You 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.920 know that the actors that came in and really elevated 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.600 the material. UM. It took you know, We've given a 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.200 lot of freedom to just do what they wanted with 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.879 their characters, bring as much as of themselves to the 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.720 character as they wanted to UM, because we felt like 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.640 that would just make it feel that much more authentic 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.480 and real and uh. And then every single actor that 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.879 came in, whether it was like for um, you know, 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.720 a tiny little scene or a reoccurring um, a reoccurring 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.080 role or you know our other leads, like they just 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.879 took what they had and what was on the page 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.240 and they elevated to this other level that we just 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.280 didn't even expect and was always so funny and so real, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.119 and it just gave it breathed this knife into the 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.040 show that we were really grateful for because you know, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.399 we knew that a show just about you know, Seth 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.080 and Jeremy and Andrea. Like any show that is only, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.040 uh based on a few characters or where there's a 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.199 few characters that feel real, it's going to have a 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.879 limit to how many people it can reach, Right, It's 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.439 gonna have the limit to how many people actually it 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.040 actually resonates with. And so to be able to get 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.840 in the editing room and just feel like we actually 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.960 know these characters that we're cutting together and like these 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:21.960 these scenes that are coming to life in a way 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.479 that we didn't anticipate, was like that was incredible and 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.240 that was that was kind of unexpected. So, I know, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.840 what everyone is doing great is um But for the listeners, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.680 UM give us like the elevator pitch, like what is 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.840 it about and what can they expect? Yes, So there's 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.119 these three people, James and I character and Alex Park's 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.280 character Andrea Davis, who were on this you know, huge 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.120 vampire drama. It was number one in the Zeke think 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:53.600 um uh you know Vampire Diaries or um what what 0:19:53.680 --> 0:20:00.719 were the movies, Um, Twilight, Ye, sorry Twilight, I forgot. Um, 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.080 you know just where everyone is obsessed and these faces 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.000 are everywhere and people know who they are. Um, and 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.880 so you know that's where they were on a show 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.560 like that, and it's five years later, Um, and you're 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.720 just seeing them at home kind of struggling to put 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.520 life together. You meet life head on as they are, 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.119 you know, entering their thirties and and um middle age, 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.560 and um, things are not you know, not as as 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.200 smooth as they might have expected. And obviously coming from 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.439 having it easy and feeling the world is that their 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.760 fingertips earlier on in their life. Um, now they're they're um, 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.800 you know, they're struggling. The wheels are just kind of spinning. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.080 So um, you know these characters what they're they're kind 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.080 of having to lean on each other. Um, when when 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.560 they all don't really have bus any leaning on each 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.520 other because of all that they're going through. Were you 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.240 guys able to draw from any personal stories or situations 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.080 from yourself for people that you knew to kind of 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.399 bring into this material. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of what 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.080 inspired us in the first place. Was is um, you know, 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.720 getting into our thirties and and just sort of realizing 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:09.439 that that that I guess that sort of I don't know, 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.200 that could of invincibility that you feel in your twenties, 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:13.960 you know, it starts to kind of wear off and 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.679 you realize that it was all it was never actually there, right, like, 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.399 you don't know. The more you learn, the more you 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.879 realize you don't know, and the more scary of the 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.240 world gets. And that's something that we were sort of 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.320 experiencing as we ended our thirties, and we were experiencing 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.040 it against the backdrop of you know, this industry that 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:33.760 is so incredibly uncertain and it's so absurd. Everywhere you look, 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.560 there's just crazy things going on and hilarious things going on, 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:38.919 and um, and we just thought that there was a 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.920 lot of comedy in that struggle. So, um, you know, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.879 knowing that and sort of having those building blocks, we 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.399 just wanted to create characters for you know, for ourselves 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.120 and for this world that we could really map onto 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.840 those situations and have them deal with them in um, 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:58.520 really funny ways. You know. We just at the end 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.720 of the day, we just really wanted to make people laugh. Um, 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.040 you know, the struggle that they may be going through. 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.040 I feel like it's a way to get through things, 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.080 just to try to laugh it off and um, and 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:10.560 so yeah, it was really about just like, you know, 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.440 characters that were close enough to ourselves that we felt 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.680 we could really portray them and and have it feel 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.600 real and authentic, but at the same time, you know, 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.720 heighten certain aspects of our own personality, like take it 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:25.960 further to one end of the character spectrum, so that, um, 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.920 you know, when they do get in these situations, there's 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.119 more sort of explosive things happening. Um. I love that 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.400 because I feel like in your thirties is when you're 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.480 just like a total wake up call, you know what 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.720 I mean. It's like what James said, I'd like we 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.120 said the cloak of invincibility, because I think that that 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.359 he just probably summed up my twenties perfectly. Right now, 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.719 it's like I run around, whether it's it's burning them 0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.720 in oil or just you know, kind of not thinking 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.199 too far ahead. It's everything's kind of a little more 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.400 present and and and just the the long term consequences 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.399 of things, like it's just not there, you know. And 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.879 it's a beautiful thing. And I think we love to 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.439 have that, but you know it's it's the push and 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.520 pull about getting into your thirties. It's like you take 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.600 the experiences that you have had, and we talked about 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.280 this in the show, and you should be applying that 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:10.480 and hopefully be in a better headspace, right Like, Oh, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.000 I just survived my twenties basically, and now I'm ready 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.600 to grow up and be an adult. But it's just 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.600 not that smooth of a transition now. I feel like 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:20.960 when you get your thirties, you're like, I have issues 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.399 and I gotta work three because it's mental and physical too. 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.720 Like I used to I could play sports all the time, 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.120 but now, like getting out of bed, you're like, oh man, 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.760 I'm like I played in a softball game yesterday, and 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.600 what's wrong with you? Um? I want to know some 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.760 t though. Did you guys ever argue or fight during 0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:44.760 this process, like get annoyed with each other? Did we 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.360 did we go to did we go to blows? Never 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:53.200 any fisticuffs? When we got physical it got mentally physical. Yeah, 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.359 we spent James and I had spent We spent basically 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.440 all two thousand nineteen in an editing room together. And 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:03.199 I don't care who you know who you love the 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:06.320 most planet. But spending the whole year in the room together, 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:11.520 that's marriage and quarantine. It's like when stop breathing last year, 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:16.160 I know, I know, UM, so you know it's thankfully 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.439 those are those are important moments for us because I 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.000 usually when we're you know, having mental digits over something, 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.120 it's something that you know is gonna be better off 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.240 for it in the end. And you know, I think 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.440 it'd be a real problem we were just constantly agreeing 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.680 with each other and everything was hunky dorry because I 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.119 wouldn't really be honest, you know, um. And what's a 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.720 partnership about trust and honesty? So you know, you know, 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.919 nothing crazy thankfully um. And and you know, but we 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.320 know of course, where we are having a heated discussion 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.399 over particular scene or something, um, you know, we were 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.920 better off for it. And yet who wins who who? 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:52.520 Who usually wins? And who's usually right? It's usually it's 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.639 probably a coin toss, but it's usually I think that 0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:00.240 it's usually whoever was right because usually usually what do 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.600 is well, you know, we'll have this like needed discussion. 0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:06.600 We'll you know, we'll lock horns over something and we'll 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:08.480 sort of put it aside for a second until the 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:09.879 end of the day, you know, just to get the 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.320 work done, just to continue forward. And then towards the 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.000 end of the day we'll talk about it again. Oh no, 0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.320 we're still we're still locking horns. And then it we'll 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.080 just sort of like leave it for a minute and 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:20.919 we'll go home. We'll go our separate ways, we'll get 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.040 a good night's sleep. I mean, y'all are in a marriage. 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.480 This is a marriage. But in a marriage, I was 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.879 about to say, I wish it ended up with the 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.160 person who is right, realizing that right, it doesn't really 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.920 work that way in a marriage. That's because men are 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:40.760 in James, you'll learn this, but like the women are right. No, 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.679 you just think that because we're time to fighting the battle. 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:48.800 So take it whatever I'm learning. There's some truth to that. 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.680 If we really had any issues, we'd go to our 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.879 producing team, or you know, we go to Alex with 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.320 another actress um and producer on the show, uh and 0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:59.840 tossed by her, and we would get good insight there. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:06.080 So we need a mediatory. So, speaking of that, James, 0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:10.800 you and Alex are engaged, correct, Yes, congratulations, that's amazing. 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.719 And so how long. I don't know when you all 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.760 got engaged, but how long in that process with you 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.760 guys working together, Like did you guys get romantic or 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.040 get engaged and and kind of how is that working 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.200 together with someone you want to spend your life with. Um, 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.119 I mean, listen, it's it's great. It's like, UM, you know, 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.760 it's it's a kin to working with this It's just 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.080 I think it's it's a sort of what we do 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.679 here with this show. You know, It's like, Um, Steven 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.040 and I have known each other for a long time. 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.639 I've known Alex since twenty fifteen when I directed on 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.240 her show, and that's how we got to know each other. Um, 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.440 And so you know, she has been there since the beginnings. 0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.399 It's the very first episode of this show. And UM, 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.120 you know, we had the pleasure of working with producers 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.000 that I've worked with on three films before this. They 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.120 were the ones who, really, you know, they had all 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.040 of this knowledge and how to get your turn of 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.760 your your little into project into a reality. And they, 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:04.480 you know, they were gracious enough to share that knowledge 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.640 with us and and take us to the promised Land. 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.960 So you know, what I have with Alex is just like, 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.560 you know, I think about it the same way that 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:13.560 you know I think about the rest of this sort 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.439 of like film family that we formed. It's just like 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.560 it's the best of both worlds when you find you 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.399 know people that you you know, you love personally that 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.719 you can then love working with as well. There's definitely 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.359 a balance. So I will say that because I know 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.200 working with with Mike is it can be hard because 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.840 you're just you're always together. So it's about finding that 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.800 personal time for yourself too that is so needed on 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:40.160 more his side. But um of of course, of course two, 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:42.800 I think in our experience it was like with Alex 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.200 it was like she we needed to give her those 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.199 the space that she needed as well, because we were 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.399 really like taking over this house with these computers and 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.480 like you know, we're editing, and we're editing. We we 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.680 didn't always we couldn't always wear headphones. We needed to 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.160 hear it from the speakers. So you know, she's trying 0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.040 to like live her life while we're is playing the same, 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.840 like the same you know, piece of dialogue on a 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.600 loop like seventy five times. It's just and sometimes it 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:11.000 could be her, Yeah, sometimes it's her or sometimes it's 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.480 Stephen like, there's there's not not to give too much away, 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.080 but there's a there's a line that Stephen has in 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.000 the show and he goes, you're trying to get me arrested? 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.240 Are you trying to get me arrested? And She's like, 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.560 that line is in my head when I wake up 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.680 in the morning. It's in every time we hear the 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.879 word arrested on TV. She's like, trying to get me arrested. 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.040 For some reason, it's that line that she heard the most. 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:39.640 How did you propose tour? Uh? Just here was it? Yeah? 0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.360 It was a quarantine proposal and we kept it super 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.560 simple and safe. And you know, this is our this 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.520 is uh yeah, this is our favorite place to be. 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.400 And so yeah, I love that, Stephen. You know I 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.680 have to ask you, is there going to be a 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.960 Laguna beach reunion with you and Kristen? A love reunion? 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.600 We were we had our union, We had dinner together. 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:07.160 I know, we were like, all three of us should 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.959 get together. That was It was good too to see her, 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.800 and it's nice to have an friendship with her after 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.120 all these years. Sure we've got quite the history back there, 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.880 So it's always good to see her. I know, I 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.960 love both of you. So it was it was cute, 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.840 like I feel like because you guys were so young then, 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.840 you know, but I was just like half the internet 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.080 just lit up. I was like, well, this is this 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.680 is going to go crazy because you know what it 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.200 was like. It was nice to see that it was 0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.000 a pose reaction. I will say that because after the 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.520 extreme discomfort of my phone blowing up and having to 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:43.800 turn and um, you know just just yeah, having that 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.800 kind of blow up much more than you ever would expect. Um, 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.040 it's nice that, you know. For me, it's I don't 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.880 really think too much about um Laguna and the show, 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.720 and for people to have like a positive reaction into 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.560 I think look back on the show fondly and kind 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.880 of have memories of watching at and kind of rooting 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.200 for these people on the show in a way, um 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.120 brings them some sort of joy. That's cool. So yeah, 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.560 that UM speaking of that. So right before we did this, 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.240 we jumped on here with you guys on Jane's Instagram. 0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.640 We asked her followers to send some questions and it's 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.440 lightening a lightening around. Yeah, it was a million questions, 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.400 which I love it because of them aren't even questions 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.360 or statements like James, marry me, Stephen, marry me, one 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.640 of you marry me. I don't care who like. It's 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.880 just it's unbelievable. It's so funny. They're just saying. One 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:42.760 of them said, James was her hall pass? Oh yes, me, yeah, 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.560 just noises. Um, you know. So, I'm sure you guys 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.400 have heard a million of these before. I'm trying to 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.280 get some different ones. But one thing is, you know 0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.240 a lot of people like to ask with a show 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.320 like that, you know, what's if you can narrow it 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.480 down to one thing, what's the one thing you're looking 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.440 back like you miss about it the most. Stephen, I'll 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.760 start with you with um with one try Hill sorry, 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:11.680 with one show. Um, I missed Wilmington, North Carolina. It 0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.160 was a beautiful place. It was nice to, uh, to 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.160 spend time on the East Coast after you know, I 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.280 grew up on the West Coast, so um, you know, 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.600 I spent a good chunk of my twenties on the 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.840 East Coast and it was just a different culture. It 0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.440 felt like a little bit of a different country. So um, 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:26.800 you know, it was it was nice to get that 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.560 perspective and thankfully we actually went back to Wilmington's to 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.960 um to shoot a little bit for our show. So 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.720 there's some some pieces in a couple episodes, UM where 0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.200 one of the characters goes out to North Carolina and 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.560 we shot in Wilmington's. So it was nice to to 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.120 get it in our show as well. I love it. 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.480 I love it, James. Um, Yeah, I think the I 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.720 think Wilmington's for sure, Like Steven said, UH, just fell 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.320 in love with that place, still love. It's kind a 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.680 special place in my heart. But also the people, uh, 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.840 the people, the cast, that crew, Um, there were so 0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.280 many folks on both sides of the camera that we're 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.920 there from from day one, m from you know, shooting 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.080 the pilot and then you know, to get to know 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:09.760 people like that for nine years is um. I just 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:11.920 you know, the older I get, the more I realized 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.560 how increasingly rare that is, and it's just reat to 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.320 be able to spend that much time working on something 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.920 with people. UM. So it's really special, Like I'm just 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.880 I look back on that fondly because I realized how 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.840 how rare it is to have that experience to get 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.600 to know people for so long and to uh Yeah, 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.880 to just in with them and and do the work 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:36.040 and sort of have another little family, you know. Guilty pleasure, chocolate, 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:40.960 a lot of it. A chocolate that's like wine and chocolate. 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:47.880 Probably yes, nice. Uh quarantine, I mean my my, Yeah, 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.120 the amount of money I've spent on wine in the 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:55.000 last year. Um, so just make a wine and have 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.400 it be researched, because that's what I what I just said. 0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.480 I'm like, okay, because I have a wine, so I'm like, 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.480 it's all research. I drink wine, a wine. Yeah it 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.200 comes out. Yeah, I came out. Well, I'll send you 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:12.520 one you okay. Jana was like, you know, I drink 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.040 of wine. Mys make my own get high on my 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:19.560 own supply. Alright, brilliant. I'm questioning our friendship right now, 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.959 the fact that you would after the wine that we 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.440 enjoyed when Wilmington's and we had went through there too, 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.440 then you wouldn't even I'm going to send to both 0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.920 of you in congratulations of your Everyone is doing great, 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:40.440 hey you, um alright, so everyone, um watch Everyone is 0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.760 Doing Great now available on Hulu. UM. It's such a 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:45.760 great show. I love you guys both, and thank you 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.200 for just being so authentic and being awesome. Guys. We 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:53.880 we appreciate you, and I just, um, I'm wanting to 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.320 maybe audition for episode I mean for season two. You 0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:59.120 know there's a season to like hook Ull Girl Up 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.760 Alex j Is Reunion. I don't know. I don't think 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.920 you're gonna have to audition for that. Okay, cool, all right, Well, 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.239 thank you guys so much. Appreciate you winding down with us. 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:24.560 Thank you, first of all, love Stephen and James. Like 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.680 I said at the beginning of it, they're just great dudes. 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.520 They're so genuine how you guys hear them are exactly how. 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.520 They are, very genuine, very nice, and I just I 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.920 enjoyed talking to to anybody from the whole crew. Like 0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.399 you said, they're great and their shows. Everyone is doing great. 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:43.280 Get it. It's on Hulu. It's really good. Watch it. Um. 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.399 On a side note though, in one of the scenes, 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.440 because you haven't watched it yet, but I was rinning 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.239 on a treadmill and I was watching one of the 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:56.640 first like two scenes or episodes, and I jumped on 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.160 the guys. I saw that Stephen and James were going live, 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.960 so I just like jumped on the live and in 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:07.880 one of the scenes, Stephen has to the pillow, like 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:12.160 the casting director and the director are like make love 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.080 to the pillow, and he's literally humping a pillow like 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.680 in one of the scenes. And so I went on 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.560 Stephen and James's live. I was like, whose decision was it? 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:27.840 To the pillow? That's so good? But apparently it was 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:32.800 like something that Stephen was asked to do in an audition. 0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.080 Really yeah, I mean not to that extent, but like' 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.960 not how uncomfortable? Yeah, I mean, I like when I 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.920 was watching it, I was so uncomfortable. I'd be like, 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.200 I don't care if it's Michael Bay, I'm not king 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.160 a pillow. That's so uncomfortable, I know. And he's like 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.480 caressing like the head of the pillow, Like I couldn't. 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.400 I I don't care. I just I don't think I 0:35:56.400 --> 0:36:03.880 could do it. No. Yeah, that's and like what you know, 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.720 as a casting director or whoever is in that room, 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.040 what are they looking at when they're watching this person, 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.279 Like you know his hips are pretty good or okay, 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.719 it's like at his facial expressions or like what are 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.840 they looking at? Like what are they looking for? I 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.560 think it's a power trip. If it's of anything, that's 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.080 what I make. I'm gonna make you capello. Yeah, I 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.400 don't know. I just sit around telling their other casting 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:31.440 director buddies, I made this dumbass propello that's actually kind 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.279 of funny. We got an email. Yes, um, this one's 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.680 from Tabitha. So my husband I just found out we're expecting. Congrats, 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.279 I'm only four weeks along. Two days after we found 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.879 out I was pregnant, my husband took the whole day 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:48.240 off um work for a one hour appointment. In my mind, 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.200 he could have preserved those seven hours for O. B 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.320 g U I N appointments or time after the baby comes. 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.279 I tried to explain, it makes me nervous that he 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.880 won't have is much time off available when we have 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.239 appointments or when the baby comes. He got mad and said, 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.320 my time off is my time, and I'll use that 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.400 however I want. In his defense, his job is stressful 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.560 and he needs mental health days to stay sane. But 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:16.279 a whole day for a one hour appointment? Am I crazy? Uh? 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.040 I mean, I don't think she's crazy because it makes sense. 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.120 I think I think the problem is as women think 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:26.600 more logical than men. Men just think what they need 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.560 in general. I don't know. I mean maybe i'm but 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.160 I think women are like, okay, like you have because 0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.120 may days off, Like you should probably take you know, 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.160 one day off while before I go, and like we're 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.480 thinking like weeks and months ahead of guys. Like we're thinking, like, okay, 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:45.640 so you're gonna have to take a day off like 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:46.920 when I go into labor, and like what if I 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:48.600 have like you know, bad days and there's like two 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.200 days and then like you know, a few days after 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:54.200 the baby comes, and like so like we're thinking does 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.160 paternity believe If he doesn't, then he's wasting his days, right, 0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.880 And so I'd get that you would be upset. And 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.920 I'm happy that you said something to him. I'm sad 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:10.480 that he responded with such a defensive statement. Yeah. So 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.600 first of all, they don't say it, but I can 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:18.359 tell this is their first kid um, and I think 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:23.239 that's that's the thing he's not used to really, you know, 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:27.560 realizing that as time is not all his anymore, it's 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.799 about to not be all his, you know, when it's 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.040 just you and your partner. Yeah, you sacrifice some of 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.200 your time because you're spending it together, but we all 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.080 we enjoy that, so it's not really sacrificing your time. 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.160 But when you have a kid, right your time, that 0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:46.040 is your priority with your time. So he's he doesn't 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:51.200 understand that concept yet, right, So to your point, she's 0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.439 thinking ahead when the baby's here, that you know, when 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:57.720 she needs help, when she's got things going on. He's 0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.480 not thinking of it as like it's my responsive old yet, 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.319 so he so. And also in his defense, I don't 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.160 know how Tabitha brought it up, not saying that she 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:10.759 came at him hard about it. If she asked him 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.280 from a good place and he acted that defensive, that sucks. 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.719 But you know, I'm going to say that my girl, 0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.799 Tabitha came from a really good place and didn't get 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.520 mad at him and was just like, hey, you know what, 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:25.439 I'm feeling frustrated because you know, when I see that 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.720 you took this whole day off, I make up that 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.400 you don't care about me and you don't care about 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.000 you know, the days that will be needed for the baby. 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:39.200 That's how I know Tabitha said it. I know she. 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.359 I know she said it that way and so well, 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:47.640 and I appreciate Tabitha at least acknowledging his need for 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:53.120 some some time mental health day. So it's just, you know, Tabitha, 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:59.799 You're not crazy. You know. He needs to understand that 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:04.000 his time is in his time here pretty soon, Okay, 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.719 like the baby is a priority. So he'll hopefully he'll 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:09.680 come around to that and realize that. So just keep 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.000 having a conversation from a good place and you know, 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.200 work it out. Here's another one for you. I've been 0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.279 married to my husband for five years now, and we 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:20.200 have two beautiful children, ages four and one. Recently, with 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.879 balancing our full time jobs, daily chores, and two very 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.680 needy and demanding little children, at the end of the day, 0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.320 i just want to crawl into bed, but I'm also 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.920 longing to connect with my husband, let alone, go out 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.040 on a date. It's hard to find time alone time 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:37.320 together amongst the chaos of raising a family. I'm horrible 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.480 at staying up late to watch a movie. I feel 0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.000 like our alone time needs to be specifically planned out 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.719 time activity, because we sometimes spend thirty minutes talking about 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.799 what we should do together. What advice would you give 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:49.759 to those couples just trying to ride out the wave? 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:58.560 Good question, Kara, Um, Michael and I have a marriage calendar. Um, 0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.680 and we basically I mean it can change, but you 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.600 know it's like Mondays we read a book together. Um, 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.400 Tuesday's we have our own time or or something. Usually 0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.359 actually Monday's we've because you have therapy. So usually it's 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.760 been like your own time, but like it it changes, 0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.799 but we have like Wednesday's will do game night. Yeah, 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:19.080 we try to have four nights a week that are 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.080 typically planned on we're spending it together and what we're doing. 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.200 So we have yet Jana said, typically Monday nights we 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.400 read a chapter of this book that we're reading, and 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.440 then we like maybe watch a show or hang out 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.040 or play a game whatever else we want, but we 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.439 do that first. This is all after the kids go down, 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.000 you know. Tuesday is we play a game after the 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:38.600 kids go down, and then maybe we'll watch the show 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:43.160 or hang out. Wednesday's intentional time, so no phones, no TV, 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.000 no you know, distraction. We just sit on the couch 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.960 and a glass of wine and just talk, um, find 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.239 out what's new in each other's worlds. And then we 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.880 try to do a date night, you know, one of 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.360 the other night. So we know that's not easy for everybody. Um, 0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.600 you know, it's easier said than done, but it's just 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.759 knowing what you're gonna do. Like you're saying, you know 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.160 Kara or is it Sarah? You think she suppose a't 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.200 c A R A age. I mean I thought it 0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:16.520 was Sarah, but I'm thinking it's Kara because Car, I 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.239 really thought that would planned that one out well to 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:23.000 cover our bases. Kara, Kara, Sarah whereich every one of 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.120 those were just want to respect you in your name? Um, 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.560 but yeah, so I would say try to schedule something 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.360 like that and just be flexible with each other. It's like, hey, 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:35.759 I had a long day, I'm exhausted. Can we just 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:39.120 get into bed and watch something? Sure, but then knowing 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.040 that there are gonna be days where one or both 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.840 of you're tired, but you committed to doing something different 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.160 with each other, and if it's just like start with 0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.440 just one day, start with just like, Hey, on Wednesdays, 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.480 can we just have intentional time or we just or 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:57.839 on Thursdays, can we, um, you know, on Monday, let's 0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.520 pick up the movie we're gonna watch Thursday, so we 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.799 don't wait already minutes to figure it out. Like Michael's like, hey, 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:08.000 we're watching this movie on this day, you know, together. Um, 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.280 so yeah, just it's tough, but just try to ask 0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.399 for what you need and um try to yeah, try 0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:18.120 to plan it out a little bit might help. Um, 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:30.440 you guys are awesome. We'll see you in Canada.