1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Wind down and Michael and I'm radio podcast. All right, 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: So this is a really fun episode because well for 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: the tree Hillers, I mean for everybody, but for everybody. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, so many of your fans 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: and following are tree Hillers, and they're loyal, so they're 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: always wanting to hear from former cast mates from the show. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: And we have two awesome, awesome guys to Yeah, we're 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: going to have James Lafferty and Stephen COLLETTI um coming 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: on the show because they've got a new show on 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Hulu right now. Um. Everyone's doing great. It's a really 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: really good show. So um, I'm excited to talk to 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: those dudes. But how are you feeling. We're about to 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: go to Canada this week? We are, I'm I'm excited. 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited for the change. I'm excited for as we're 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: just as sounds. It's kind of a sense of normalcy, 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: right because we're used to traveling, were used to like 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: going places and doing things. So and Jason has become 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: such I mean the kids O. But Jason really is 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: a homebody because he's not used to traveling. Yeah, we 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: go anywhere in two seconds out He's like home home. Yeah, 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: thirty minutes stops and he's like home. So it'll be 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: good for him to change things out because once, you know, 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: traveling is a little bit more back to normal and 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: we're traveling more. We always try to take the kids 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: when we can if we're gone for a decent period 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: of time, so we want them to get used to that, 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: like Jolia is, Yeah, and I think I don't know, Yes, 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I just wish that there wasn't the quarantine period because 29 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: it just adds because we have to quarantine for two weeks. Yeah, 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: and it's not I mean, honestly, that's not the part 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: that's giving me anxiety because I mean we pretty much 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: a quarantine here anyways. I mean we don't go anywhere 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: minus like the grocery store here there, or like Jolie's, 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you know. I mean we go a few places, but 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: it's not maybe out to dinner once every two weeks. 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's not like it's going to 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: totally change. But I think just having to be being 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: told that you can't do something is what gives me anxiety. 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: So it's like you have to stay in this house 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: for two weeks and you can't leave, like automatically, I'm 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: like boom anxiety because I'm like, well, what if this happens, 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: what if like we don't even have a car, Like 43 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: what if something happens with the kids, like hello, emergencies 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, you know. So I'm 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: just starting to like freak out about that. So I 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: just actually emailed production because I was like, as if 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: there is something that happens in the the middle of the night, 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna be able to sleep knowing just 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: in case something happened. No, for sure, I think they 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: need to understand that with two kids, like I don't 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: care if they have a doctor on call, Like if 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: we have to go, we have to go, so just 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: to be able to have a car, they're accessible, and 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, we're adults, we're professionals. We're not going to 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: go anywhere if they say don't go anywhere. Yeah you 56 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're not going to jeopardize 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: the production or the movie that you're doing to be selfish. Yeah, 58 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just I don't know, 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just have I have so 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: much anxiety around it, and you know, kind of like 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: we said, it's not our space. And but at least 62 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: it's better than it's better than what some I know 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: some people are they have to quarantine in their hotel 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: room and for two weeks. I'm like that, I for 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: sure like I would. I wouldn't do it. I couldn't 66 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: do it. I would lose my mind. I mean, it's 67 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: like being in a jail. I mean even mattress right, 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: even me, who you know, loves to contain his excitement, 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: and he's dropping her off, like singing, pull him out 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: her luggage and everything. He's like, all right, have the 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: most wonderful time. And she's like, no, put my bags 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: back in the car. I'm not going anywhere. You're too 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: him happy, Let's go home. And then on the way 74 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: home he's just miserable. And then you talked about at 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: lunch with his buddies, like the next day they're like, 76 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: you're too happy. You gotta contain it. Everyone knows you 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: gotta contain. It's like I'm gonna miss you, when really 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: you're like high fiving yourself inside. It was pretty funny. 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: That is funny. Huh yeah. But we're gonna be together. 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. No, the that we're gonna be together. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean because there had been I couldn't leave without 82 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 1: my kiddos and family. So I'm super excited. Um, so yeah, 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: we're heading off to Canada this week. Guys, you were 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: from here on out, the episodes are going to be 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: recorded in Canaday. They're all going to be in French. 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: That would be awesome. Do the speak French and Vancouver 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: that I thought that was more Quebec where we went 88 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: last time. Um, yeah, it's more of the eastern Canada. 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: But but still that was you know, a lot of 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: that was French territory in general, so I still think 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: there's more French. I guess there's more French than there's 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: like Spanish. Sure, Um hey, guys, did anyone get my 93 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: one brick Wines? If you didn't get him, now, well 94 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: don't you update this? How's that going? It's going really good? Yeah? Yeah, 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: we have a red blend, very inexpensive, low sugar, low 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: and sulf fates. I'm excited. Good. The sales are good. 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Sales are doing good because I've been, I've been. People 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: are liking it. So that's what's exciting about it. That 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: is that is awesome because it's fantast it's so good. 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Well, we have like the best wine maker 101 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: too from Napa that did the you know, helped create 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the wine with me. So I've been and the fact 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: that it's a little sugar makes me super happy. But 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited for you that it's doing well because this 105 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: was like your baby. This was out of all the 106 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: things that you're doing. I know you really want this too, 107 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, take off and be sustainable because it's something 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: that you're so passionate about. I do like my wine. 109 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: So um, and Michael is working on his hat business. Y'all, 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. It's going to be excited. We're 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: gonna you know. It's just we love you guys, that's all. 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: So we just thank you for your support. So before 113 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: we get um, James and Stephen on, you know, is 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: it is it feel like kind of like when you're 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: on a show like that, does it almost feel like 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: a high school reunion? Not that based regardless of that 117 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: was based in high school, but you know, it feels 118 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: like you're seeing these friends from a long time ago. 119 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: It just has that sense of like a high school 120 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: reunion for sure. I mean, I was definitely closest to 121 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Stephen obviously, because I spent I did all my scenes 122 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: with Stephen. Um, I had very few scenes with James. 123 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: So and like when I was in the show, it was, 124 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: you know there there was just some not cattiness, but 125 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: just like you can't talk to this person if you're 126 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: friends with this person, and so it just became like 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: a So I wasn't very close to James because of 128 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: certain situations on the set at the time, But now, 129 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean everyone's really close, and it's kind of frustrating 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: because I'm like, why couldn't we have all been friends then? 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: And you made like the Nevies life a little bit 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: of hell. But it's cool al right, because you couldn't 133 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: make up your mind for yourself because you as soon 134 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: as you got in there, whoever you stuck with, you 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: have to stick with. But now it's like annoying because 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: they're like, we're all friends now out and I'm just 137 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: like you one person literally made it hell for us 138 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: because if we chose the wrong friend, we would be destroyed. 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: So you know, now it's like, you know, well, now 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: everyone's adults, but that's very true. Yeah, so um, which 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: makes you just laugh at those things when you think 142 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: about your anyone's past in general, right, the cattiness or 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: the clickiness of things in high school in that age 144 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: and young twenties, you're like why, You're like, why can't 145 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: I have the knowledge I have the day and be like, um, 146 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: You're an idiot for thinking that, And I'm going to 147 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: talk to however, I want to know it's so true 148 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: because but I mean, like going on, I mean, we 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: me Chantala and Rob came on season seven, so it's 150 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: like they've already had six years to form these catrets 151 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: and connections and you know, all these things. So it's 152 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: like we're just coming in like dipping our toes in, 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: like I don't want to make a mistake, you know, 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: but get that now though, it's nice, like you know, 155 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: now that I've been able to spend more time with 156 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: James on conventions and you know, just being able to 157 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, hang out, and it's you know, they're awesome. 158 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, Stephen and I are like we're like, kin, 159 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think what's cool too, And I mean 160 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: just from their one convention I went with you two 161 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: last year and then also meeting Chantelle and meeting these 162 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: guys and a bunch of people in the cast. Um, 163 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: everyone was just so nice, Like everyone was really approachable, friendly. Um, 164 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, reciprocated in the conversation and questions 165 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: and everything. It wasn't just one sided and anything when 166 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: I was meeting any of these people. So that, you know, 167 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: that just goes to show the kind of some of 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the character the people that I've met that you were 169 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: able to work with. Yeah. So, and James and Stephen 170 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: are definitely two of those guys, you know, So let's 171 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: take a break and get them on all right, Tree Hillers. 172 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: We've waited long enough. UM. So excited because James Lafferty 173 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: and Stephen COLLETTI are going to be on the show today. 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: So I remember they were working on Everyone is doing great. Yeah, 175 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: And last time we talked to both of them was 176 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: almost a year ago, was last February one Tree Hill conventiontion. Yeah. 177 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: So I'm just so proud of them because that Everyone's 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: doing great. Um got picked up by Hulu, and you know, 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: I have a little piece of that world with like 180 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: pitching show. I mean, me and Brian who was on 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: the show about um the first of the year, about 182 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Love Addict. So we we had a show we were 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: working on. It is hard to pitch a show. I 184 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: mean we went to HBO, we went to Hulu, we 185 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: went to Amazon, like you know, you you go in 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: there and it's just like then they'll give you notes 187 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: with then this other network on something else. So I mean, 188 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: it is so incredibly hard. I think I was something 189 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: about The Queen's Gambit that was passed on like for 190 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: ten years or something crazy like that, So I mean 191 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: it's and then there was another show too, and I 192 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: know that's not the right amount time, but it was 193 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: something where it's so crazy. Um, even the Stranger Things 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: that was passed on a million times. So to be 195 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: able to have a show picked up on a network 196 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: nowadays is so hard. And I'm so proud of them 197 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: because these dudes are They're great guys. I mean I 198 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: was obviously closer with Stephen filming because he was my 199 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: scene partner. I didn't do much with James, UM, but 200 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I love both of them. I'm so proud of them. Um, 201 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: and James just got engaged, which is awesome to a beautiful, 202 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: girlish actress. And then Stephen, I believe he's still kicking 203 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: it man, just in the single life but we have 204 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: some questions that came in from our Instagram to ask them. So, 205 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: did you see any on Yeah, there's definitely some on 206 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: here that are that are sticking out to me. So 207 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: as we're talking to him, I'll pepper these in there. 208 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Anything about Kristen, Yeah, there's one about you know, Stephen 209 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: being pictured with Kristin at dinner recently or whatever. And 210 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think he already addressed that and said 211 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: they're just good friends. Um, But now there's there's a 212 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: bunch on here, and it's so funny. I mean, people 213 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: love the Tree Hillers man. Oh yeah, I mean, and 214 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: I think too James had I don't want to make 215 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: this up, but I'm pretty sure James had a tough 216 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: time coming off of One Tree Hill because he was 217 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: so typecasted. Because I can imagine you being on a 218 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: show like that that long and being super typecasted. Yeah, 219 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: And I've always been someone on the outside of the industry. 220 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: I've always wondered that it's like some of these shows 221 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: that do so well, especially if it's like your your 222 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: big break, you know, later down the road, does that 223 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: plague you, you know, does that hurt you in a sense? 224 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, I mean it's kind of like, you know, 225 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: our buddy Bob. Second, it's like you kind of just 226 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: have to embrace it after a while. It's like, okay, 227 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm Danny Tanner. And but then again, you know, and 228 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I know Uncle Jesse wanted to do the farthest thing 229 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: from Uncle Jesse. But then they obviously they did a rething, 230 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, um, a reunion, and they filmed again because 231 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Fuller House, because people love it, like people love to 232 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: see that character. So it's kind of like, all right, 233 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: you just have to embrace it a little bit. But Okay, 234 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm so excited because when I saw I think it 235 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: was I was stalking your page, James. Sorry Stephen, but um, 236 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: James posts a little bit more. But um, I saw that, 237 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, everyone is doing great was picked up on 238 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Hulu and I I literally out loud. I was like, 239 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, Like I was so excited for 240 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: you guys because I know it's been a work in 241 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: progress and it's been I mean, how many years has 242 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: it been now even working on it? Four four? I think, yeah, yeah, 243 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: I think it's it's coming up on four like the 244 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: next month. I think since we shot, so I think 245 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: we shot the pilot in April of two thousand seventeen, 246 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and then we got together because you guys were doing 247 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: more of you were raising more money for it, right 248 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: to shoot the some some episodes of it. Is that 249 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: that was did We did the crowdfunding for additional episodes, 250 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: and you were kind enough to come in and do 251 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: one of our live watches, which those were very popular 252 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: for us. That was that was that was huge, um, 253 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: instrumental part of our campaign and it was nice to 254 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: get that, you know, the One Trail community on board 255 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: and have you guys come out and help us out 256 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: and do those live watches like it was fun. I mean, 257 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: we don't get to see each other too often, so 258 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: it was nice to have an excuse to get together. Yeah, 259 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: and it was definitely fun. I'm curious though, because in 260 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: those four years, was there ever kind of like that 261 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: should we just stop like is this you know, we're 262 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: pitching it, we're trying to do this, we're not getting 263 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: or was it like, hey, no, we've got traction and 264 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: this is all good. Or did you ever have that 265 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: moment where you're like, I like, this isn't going to happen. Yeah? Yeah, 266 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: I think that was the that was the hardest part 267 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: of it all. The work um was amazing, and just 268 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: getting to do what we love to do was was 269 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: incredible every step of the way. Um, there were growing 270 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: pains for sure, and UM there were a lot of 271 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: challenges and things we had to learn a long way, 272 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: but it always felt it always felt good because we 273 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: were learning and because we we did feel like we 274 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: were towards something. But I do think the uncertainty of 275 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: it all was the hardest part, um of just really 276 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: not knowing, um where this was headed. We we never knew. 277 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: We always wanted it to be on Hulu, but we 278 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: never knew that we were going to get there. We 279 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: always felt like we were a long shot at best. 280 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Um And in fact, you know, we were totally prepared 281 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: to just self distribute and see how that went, which 282 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: is a much tougher road. UM. So so yeah, I 283 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: mean I think that there were never moments where we 284 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to throw our hands up and give up. 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: But there were definitely moments where I won't speak for Stephen, 286 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: but at least for myself, it was like, Okay, what 287 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: do we really doing here? Like how was this going 288 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: to end? Because it just sort of felt like it 289 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: was going on and on with no real life at 290 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel, Stephen, what about for you? Yeah, 291 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, um, for me, we always had that plan 292 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: of self distribution. That was the like, all right, the 293 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: last plan. Um, if we feel like we've we've you know, 294 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: exhausted all options and we feel like we've gotten our 295 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: fair shot, Um, then what you know, we'll self distribute, 296 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: which which is you know, which is fine? And again 297 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: it's it's still the accomplishment was really for us to 298 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: get the money to shoot the thing. I mean, and 299 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: and there was points in that campaign where we're doing 300 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the indieog campaign where I was like, oh, man, like 301 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: this is we knew it was gonna be a big task, 302 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: but this is a lot bigger than than we expected. 303 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: And it was really really hard. Um, but you know, 304 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: we're we're grateful for the people that jump board to 305 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: help us out and you know kind of propel us. 306 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: But you know, you're you're asking money for forty five days, 307 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: so you know, um, you know, we can't do live 308 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: watches for forty five days straight, although that would have 309 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: been fun. We've got have hung out a couple more times, 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: but um, you know, there are those days is where 311 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be kind of getting content there and 312 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: driving it every day, and you're like, ah, already i 313 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: am not on social media that much, and now I'm 314 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: on here every single day I ask people for money. 315 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: She got a little overwhelmed. But again, at the end, 316 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: goal there, for for the for the show, um was 317 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: what continue to drive us. And then there were these 318 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: moments along the way that like we're so unexpected, and 319 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: whether it's like Janet you coming in and doing the 320 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: live watch and that being very lucrative for us, or 321 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: being at some TV festival and James and I literally 322 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: sitting in a lounge at one point frustrated because we 323 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: can't get this video on YouTube and just a couple 324 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: of knuckleheads trying to you know, trying to work the internet, 325 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: and a woman had come up to us and had 326 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: just seen the screening and she just started talking to 327 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: us casually. Thankfully we were nice to her, because then 328 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: ten minutes later she's like, well, she's like, let me 329 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: see your campaign, and she wind up donating over twenty 330 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: dollars in that mone and so it's just, you know, 331 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where, uh, lesson I learned 332 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: there is like you know, the perseverance, Like even when 333 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: you feel down, you know you've got to continue to strive, strive, 334 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and if you need to seek help, see get you know, 335 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: get get your friends. You know, to be honest with 336 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: with yourself and your friends about you know, where you 337 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: might be or what you might need. And as long 338 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: as you're kind of putting yourself out there and you're 339 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: working hard, you know, things will happen, maybe not like 340 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: you expected, but still amazing things will happen. With the 341 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: timeline being, you know, the past four years working on 342 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: this project, how much, if at all, has the concept 343 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: around it changed, Like from day one of you guys 344 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, having this idea and being to what it 345 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: is now. M hmm. I think the concept has stayed 346 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: pretty um, pretty consistent. I mean, we we always knew 347 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: what kind of show we wanted it to be. We 348 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: always knew we wanted it to feel dry. Um, you know, 349 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: in terms of its humor, we we knew that the 350 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: humor was going to come from like those little moments 351 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: when people don't know what to say to each other 352 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: instead of delivering punchlines. Um, we knew that we wanted 353 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: it to feel raw and awkward. UM and uh and 354 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: and sort of make you squirm a little bit. You know. 355 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: That's the kind of humor that we're really drawn to. 356 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: That's the kind of Those are the kind of shows 357 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: that really inspired us to make this show. UM. But 358 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: I will say that like one thing that really I 359 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: guess pleasantly surprised us and and opened up the whole 360 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: process for us was when we actually got to set 361 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: and shooting that first the first season was UM. You 362 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: know that the actors that came in and really elevated 363 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: the material. UM. It took you know, We've given a 364 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of freedom to just do what they wanted with 365 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: their characters, bring as much as of themselves to the 366 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: character as they wanted to UM, because we felt like 367 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: that would just make it feel that much more authentic 368 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: and real and uh. And then every single actor that 369 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: came in, whether it was like for um, you know, 370 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: a tiny little scene or a reoccurring um, a reoccurring 371 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: role or you know our other leads, like they just 372 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: took what they had and what was on the page 373 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: and they elevated to this other level that we just 374 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: didn't even expect and was always so funny and so real, 375 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: and it just gave it breathed this knife into the 376 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: show that we were really grateful for because you know, 377 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: we knew that a show just about you know, Seth 378 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and Jeremy and Andrea. Like any show that is only, 379 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: uh based on a few characters or where there's a 380 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: few characters that feel real, it's going to have a 381 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: limit to how many people it can reach, Right, It's 382 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: gonna have the limit to how many people actually it 383 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: actually resonates with. And so to be able to get 384 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: in the editing room and just feel like we actually 385 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: know these characters that we're cutting together and like these 386 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: these scenes that are coming to life in a way 387 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: that we didn't anticipate, was like that was incredible and 388 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: that was that was kind of unexpected. So, I know, 389 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: what everyone is doing great is um But for the listeners, 390 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: UM give us like the elevator pitch, like what is 391 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: it about and what can they expect? Yes, So there's 392 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: these three people, James and I character and Alex Park's 393 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: character Andrea Davis, who were on this you know, huge 394 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: vampire drama. It was number one in the Zeke think 395 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: um uh you know Vampire Diaries or um what what 396 00:19:53,680 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: were the movies, Um, Twilight, Ye, sorry Twilight, I forgot. Um, 397 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: you know just where everyone is obsessed and these faces 398 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: are everywhere and people know who they are. Um, and 399 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: so you know that's where they were on a show 400 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: like that, and it's five years later, Um, and you're 401 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: just seeing them at home kind of struggling to put 402 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: life together. You meet life head on as they are, 403 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, entering their thirties and and um middle age, 404 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: and um, things are not you know, not as as 405 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: smooth as they might have expected. And obviously coming from 406 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: having it easy and feeling the world is that their 407 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: fingertips earlier on in their life. Um, now they're they're um, 408 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, they're struggling. The wheels are just kind of spinning. 409 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: So um, you know these characters what they're they're kind 410 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: of having to lean on each other. Um, when when 411 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: they all don't really have bus any leaning on each 412 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: other because of all that they're going through. Were you 413 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: guys able to draw from any personal stories or situations 414 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: from yourself for people that you knew to kind of 415 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: bring into this material. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of what 416 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: inspired us in the first place. Was is um, you know, 417 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: getting into our thirties and and just sort of realizing 418 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: that that that I guess that sort of I don't know, 419 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: that could of invincibility that you feel in your twenties, 420 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, it starts to kind of wear off and 421 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: you realize that it was all it was never actually there, right, like, 422 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: you don't know. The more you learn, the more you 423 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: realize you don't know, and the more scary of the 424 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: world gets. And that's something that we were sort of 425 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: experiencing as we ended our thirties, and we were experiencing 426 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: it against the backdrop of you know, this industry that 427 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: is so incredibly uncertain and it's so absurd. Everywhere you look, 428 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: there's just crazy things going on and hilarious things going on, 429 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: and um, and we just thought that there was a 430 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: lot of comedy in that struggle. So, um, you know, 431 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: knowing that and sort of having those building blocks, we 432 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: just wanted to create characters for you know, for ourselves 433 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: and for this world that we could really map onto 434 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: those situations and have them deal with them in um, 435 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: really funny ways. You know. We just at the end 436 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: of the day, we just really wanted to make people laugh. Um, 437 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, the struggle that they may be going through. 438 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a way to get through things, 439 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: just to try to laugh it off and um, and 440 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, it was really about just like, you know, 441 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: characters that were close enough to ourselves that we felt 442 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: we could really portray them and and have it feel 443 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: real and authentic, but at the same time, you know, 444 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: heighten certain aspects of our own personality, like take it 445 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: further to one end of the character spectrum, so that, um, 446 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, when they do get in these situations, there's 447 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: more sort of explosive things happening. Um. I love that 448 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like in your thirties is when you're 449 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: just like a total wake up call, you know what 450 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean. It's like what James said, I'd like we 451 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: said the cloak of invincibility, because I think that that 452 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: he just probably summed up my twenties perfectly. Right now, 453 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: it's like I run around, whether it's it's burning them 454 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: in oil or just you know, kind of not thinking 455 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: too far ahead. It's everything's kind of a little more 456 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: present and and and just the the long term consequences 457 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: of things, like it's just not there, you know. And 458 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. And I think we love to 459 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: have that, but you know it's it's the push and 460 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: pull about getting into your thirties. It's like you take 461 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: the experiences that you have had, and we talked about 462 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: this in the show, and you should be applying that 463 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: and hopefully be in a better headspace, right Like, Oh, 464 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: I just survived my twenties basically, and now I'm ready 465 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: to grow up and be an adult. But it's just 466 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: not that smooth of a transition now. I feel like 467 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: when you get your thirties, you're like, I have issues 468 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: and I gotta work three because it's mental and physical too. 469 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: Like I used to I could play sports all the time, 470 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: but now, like getting out of bed, you're like, oh man, 471 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I played in a softball game yesterday, and 472 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Um? I want to know some 473 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: t though. Did you guys ever argue or fight during 474 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: this process, like get annoyed with each other? Did we 475 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: did we go to did we go to blows? Never 476 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: any fisticuffs? When we got physical it got mentally physical. Yeah, 477 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: we spent James and I had spent We spent basically 478 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: all two thousand nineteen in an editing room together. And 479 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: I don't care who you know who you love the 480 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: most planet. But spending the whole year in the room together, 481 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: that's marriage and quarantine. It's like when stop breathing last year, 482 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: I know, I know, UM, so you know it's thankfully 483 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: those are those are important moments for us because I 484 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: usually when we're you know, having mental digits over something, 485 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: it's something that you know is gonna be better off 486 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: for it in the end. And you know, I think 487 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: it'd be a real problem we were just constantly agreeing 488 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: with each other and everything was hunky dorry because I 489 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't really be honest, you know, um. And what's a 490 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: partnership about trust and honesty? So you know, you know, 491 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: nothing crazy thankfully um. And and you know, but we 492 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: know of course, where we are having a heated discussion 493 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: over particular scene or something, um, you know, we were 494 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: better off for it. And yet who wins who who? 495 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: Who usually wins? And who's usually right? It's usually it's 496 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: probably a coin toss, but it's usually I think that 497 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: it's usually whoever was right because usually usually what do 498 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: is well, you know, we'll have this like needed discussion. 499 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: We'll you know, we'll lock horns over something and we'll 500 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: sort of put it aside for a second until the 501 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, just to get the 502 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: work done, just to continue forward. And then towards the 503 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: end of the day we'll talk about it again. Oh no, 504 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: we're still we're still locking horns. And then it we'll 505 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: just sort of like leave it for a minute and 506 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: we'll go home. We'll go our separate ways, we'll get 507 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: a good night's sleep. I mean, y'all are in a marriage. 508 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: This is a marriage. But in a marriage, I was 509 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: about to say, I wish it ended up with the 510 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: person who is right, realizing that right, it doesn't really 511 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: work that way in a marriage. That's because men are 512 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: in James, you'll learn this, but like the women are right. No, 513 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: you just think that because we're time to fighting the battle. 514 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: So take it whatever I'm learning. There's some truth to that. 515 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: If we really had any issues, we'd go to our 516 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: producing team, or you know, we go to Alex with 517 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: another actress um and producer on the show, uh and 518 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: tossed by her, and we would get good insight there. 519 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: So we need a mediatory. So, speaking of that, James, 520 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: you and Alex are engaged, correct, Yes, congratulations, that's amazing. 521 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: And so how long. I don't know when you all 522 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: got engaged, but how long in that process with you 523 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: guys working together, Like did you guys get romantic or 524 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: get engaged and and kind of how is that working 525 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: together with someone you want to spend your life with. Um, 526 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's it's great. It's like, UM, you know, 527 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a kin to working with this It's just 528 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a sort of what we do 529 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: here with this show. You know, It's like, Um, Steven 530 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: and I have known each other for a long time. 531 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I've known Alex since twenty fifteen when I directed on 532 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: her show, and that's how we got to know each other. Um, 533 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: And so you know, she has been there since the beginnings. 534 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: It's the very first episode of this show. And UM, 535 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, we had the pleasure of working with producers 536 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: that I've worked with on three films before this. They 537 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: were the ones who, really, you know, they had all 538 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: of this knowledge and how to get your turn of 539 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: your your little into project into a reality. And they, 540 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, they were gracious enough to share that knowledge 541 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: with us and and take us to the promised Land. 542 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: So you know, what I have with Alex is just like, 543 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think about it the same way that 544 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: you know I think about the rest of this sort 545 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: of like film family that we formed. It's just like 546 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: it's the best of both worlds when you find you 547 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: know people that you you know, you love personally that 548 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: you can then love working with as well. There's definitely 549 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: a balance. So I will say that because I know 550 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: working with with Mike is it can be hard because 551 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: you're just you're always together. So it's about finding that 552 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: personal time for yourself too that is so needed on 553 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: more his side. But um of of course, of course two, 554 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: I think in our experience it was like with Alex 555 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: it was like she we needed to give her those 556 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: the space that she needed as well, because we were 557 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: really like taking over this house with these computers and 558 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: like you know, we're editing, and we're editing. We we 559 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: didn't always we couldn't always wear headphones. We needed to 560 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: hear it from the speakers. So you know, she's trying 561 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: to like live her life while we're is playing the same, 562 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: like the same you know, piece of dialogue on a 563 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: loop like seventy five times. It's just and sometimes it 564 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: could be her, Yeah, sometimes it's her or sometimes it's 565 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: Stephen like, there's there's not not to give too much away, 566 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: but there's a there's a line that Stephen has in 567 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: the show and he goes, you're trying to get me arrested? 568 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Are you trying to get me arrested? And She's like, 569 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: that line is in my head when I wake up 570 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: in the morning. It's in every time we hear the 571 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: word arrested on TV. She's like, trying to get me arrested. 572 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: For some reason, it's that line that she heard the most. 573 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: How did you propose tour? Uh? Just here was it? Yeah? 574 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: It was a quarantine proposal and we kept it super 575 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: simple and safe. And you know, this is our this 576 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: is uh yeah, this is our favorite place to be. 577 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I love that, Stephen. You know I 578 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: have to ask you, is there going to be a 579 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: Laguna beach reunion with you and Kristen? A love reunion? 580 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: We were we had our union, We had dinner together. 581 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: I know, we were like, all three of us should 582 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: get together. That was It was good too to see her, 583 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: and it's nice to have an friendship with her after 584 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: all these years. Sure we've got quite the history back there, 585 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: So it's always good to see her. I know, I 586 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: love both of you. So it was it was cute, 587 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: like I feel like because you guys were so young then, 588 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, but I was just like half the internet 589 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: just lit up. I was like, well, this is this 590 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: is going to go crazy because you know what it 591 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: was like. It was nice to see that it was 592 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: a pose reaction. I will say that because after the 593 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: extreme discomfort of my phone blowing up and having to 594 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: turn and um, you know just just yeah, having that 595 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of blow up much more than you ever would expect. Um, 596 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: it's nice that, you know. For me, it's I don't 597 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: really think too much about um Laguna and the show, 598 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: and for people to have like a positive reaction into 599 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: I think look back on the show fondly and kind 600 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: of have memories of watching at and kind of rooting 601 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: for these people on the show in a way, um 602 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: brings them some sort of joy. That's cool. So yeah, 603 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: that UM speaking of that. So right before we did this, 604 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: we jumped on here with you guys on Jane's Instagram. 605 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: We asked her followers to send some questions and it's 606 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: lightening a lightening around. Yeah, it was a million questions, 607 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: which I love it because of them aren't even questions 608 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: or statements like James, marry me, Stephen, marry me, one 609 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: of you marry me. I don't care who like. It's 610 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: just it's unbelievable. It's so funny. They're just saying. One 611 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: of them said, James was her hall pass? Oh yes, me, yeah, 612 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: just noises. Um, you know. So, I'm sure you guys 613 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: have heard a million of these before. I'm trying to 614 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: get some different ones. But one thing is, you know 615 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people like to ask with a show 616 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: like that, you know, what's if you can narrow it 617 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: down to one thing, what's the one thing you're looking 618 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: back like you miss about it the most. Stephen, I'll 619 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: start with you with um with one try Hill sorry, 620 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: with one show. Um, I missed Wilmington, North Carolina. It 621 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: was a beautiful place. It was nice to, uh, to 622 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: spend time on the East Coast after you know, I 623 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: grew up on the West Coast, so um, you know, 624 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: I spent a good chunk of my twenties on the 625 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: East Coast and it was just a different culture. It 626 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: felt like a little bit of a different country. So um, 627 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was nice to get that 628 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: perspective and thankfully we actually went back to Wilmington's to 629 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: um to shoot a little bit for our show. So 630 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: there's some some pieces in a couple episodes, UM where 631 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: one of the characters goes out to North Carolina and 632 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: we shot in Wilmington's. So it was nice to to 633 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: get it in our show as well. I love it. 634 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: I love it, James. Um, Yeah, I think the I 635 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: think Wilmington's for sure, Like Steven said, UH, just fell 636 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: in love with that place, still love. It's kind a 637 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: special place in my heart. But also the people, uh, 638 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: the people, the cast, that crew, Um, there were so 639 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: many folks on both sides of the camera that we're 640 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: there from from day one, m from you know, shooting 641 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: the pilot and then you know, to get to know 642 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: people like that for nine years is um. I just 643 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, the older I get, the more I realized 644 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: how increasingly rare that is, and it's just reat to 645 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: be able to spend that much time working on something 646 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: with people. UM. So it's really special, Like I'm just 647 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: I look back on that fondly because I realized how 648 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: how rare it is to have that experience to get 649 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: to know people for so long and to uh Yeah, 650 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: to just in with them and and do the work 651 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: and sort of have another little family, you know. Guilty pleasure, chocolate, 652 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot of it. A chocolate that's like wine and chocolate. 653 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Probably yes, nice. Uh quarantine, I mean my my, Yeah, 654 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: the amount of money I've spent on wine in the 655 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: last year. Um, so just make a wine and have 656 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: it be researched, because that's what I what I just said. 657 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, because I have a wine, so I'm like, 658 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: it's all research. I drink wine, a wine. Yeah it 659 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: comes out. Yeah, I came out. Well, I'll send you 660 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: one you okay. Jana was like, you know, I drink 661 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: of wine. Mys make my own get high on my 662 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: own supply. Alright, brilliant. I'm questioning our friendship right now, 663 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: the fact that you would after the wine that we 664 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed when Wilmington's and we had went through there too, 665 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: then you wouldn't even I'm going to send to both 666 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: of you in congratulations of your Everyone is doing great, 667 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: hey you, um alright, so everyone, um watch Everyone is 668 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: Doing Great now available on Hulu. UM. It's such a 669 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: great show. I love you guys both, and thank you 670 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: for just being so authentic and being awesome. Guys. We 671 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: we appreciate you, and I just, um, I'm wanting to 672 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe audition for episode I mean for season two. You 673 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: know there's a season to like hook Ull Girl Up 674 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: Alex j Is Reunion. I don't know. I don't think 675 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to audition for that. Okay, cool, all right, Well, 676 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. Appreciate you winding down with us. 677 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, first of all, love Stephen and James. Like 678 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of it, they're just great dudes. 679 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: They're so genuine how you guys hear them are exactly how. 680 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: They are, very genuine, very nice, and I just I 681 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed talking to to anybody from the whole crew. Like 682 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: you said, they're great and their shows. Everyone is doing great. 683 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: Get it. It's on Hulu. It's really good. Watch it. Um. 684 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: On a side note though, in one of the scenes, 685 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: because you haven't watched it yet, but I was rinning 686 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: on a treadmill and I was watching one of the 687 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: first like two scenes or episodes, and I jumped on 688 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: the guys. I saw that Stephen and James were going live, 689 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: so I just like jumped on the live and in 690 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: one of the scenes, Stephen has to the pillow, like 691 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: the casting director and the director are like make love 692 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: to the pillow, and he's literally humping a pillow like 693 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: in one of the scenes. And so I went on 694 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: Stephen and James's live. I was like, whose decision was it? 695 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: To the pillow? That's so good? But apparently it was 696 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: like something that Stephen was asked to do in an audition. 697 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean not to that extent, but like' 698 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: not how uncomfortable? Yeah, I mean, I like when I 699 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: was watching it, I was so uncomfortable. I'd be like, 700 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Michael Bay, I'm not king 701 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: a pillow. That's so uncomfortable, I know. And he's like 702 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: caressing like the head of the pillow, Like I couldn't. 703 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: I I don't care. I just I don't think I 704 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: could do it. No. Yeah, that's and like what you know, 705 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: as a casting director or whoever is in that room, 706 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: what are they looking at when they're watching this person, 707 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: Like you know his hips are pretty good or okay, 708 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: it's like at his facial expressions or like what are 709 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: they looking at? Like what are they looking for? I 710 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: think it's a power trip. If it's of anything, that's 711 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: what I make. I'm gonna make you capello. Yeah, I 712 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I just sit around telling their other casting 713 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: director buddies, I made this dumbass propello that's actually kind 714 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: of funny. We got an email. Yes, um, this one's 715 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: from Tabitha. So my husband I just found out we're expecting. Congrats, 716 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: I'm only four weeks along. Two days after we found 717 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: out I was pregnant, my husband took the whole day 718 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: off um work for a one hour appointment. In my mind, 719 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: he could have preserved those seven hours for O. B 720 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: g U I N appointments or time after the baby comes. 721 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: I tried to explain, it makes me nervous that he 722 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: won't have is much time off available when we have 723 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: appointments or when the baby comes. He got mad and said, 724 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: my time off is my time, and I'll use that 725 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: however I want. In his defense, his job is stressful 726 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: and he needs mental health days to stay sane. But 727 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: a whole day for a one hour appointment? Am I crazy? Uh? 728 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think she's crazy because it makes sense. 729 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: I think I think the problem is as women think 730 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: more logical than men. Men just think what they need 731 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: in general. I don't know. I mean maybe i'm but 732 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: I think women are like, okay, like you have because 733 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: may days off, Like you should probably take you know, 734 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: one day off while before I go, and like we're 735 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: thinking like weeks and months ahead of guys. Like we're thinking, like, okay, 736 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: so you're gonna have to take a day off like 737 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: when I go into labor, and like what if I 738 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: have like you know, bad days and there's like two 739 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: days and then like you know, a few days after 740 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: the baby comes, and like so like we're thinking does 741 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: paternity believe If he doesn't, then he's wasting his days, right, 742 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: And so I'd get that you would be upset. And 743 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm happy that you said something to him. I'm sad 744 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: that he responded with such a defensive statement. Yeah. So 745 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: first of all, they don't say it, but I can 746 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: tell this is their first kid um, and I think 747 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing he's not used to really, you know, 748 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: realizing that as time is not all his anymore, it's 749 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: about to not be all his, you know, when it's 750 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: just you and your partner. Yeah, you sacrifice some of 751 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: your time because you're spending it together, but we all 752 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: we enjoy that, so it's not really sacrificing your time. 753 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: But when you have a kid, right your time, that 754 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: is your priority with your time. So he's he doesn't 755 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: understand that concept yet, right, So to your point, she's 756 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: thinking ahead when the baby's here, that you know, when 757 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: she needs help, when she's got things going on. He's 758 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: not thinking of it as like it's my responsive old yet, 759 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: so he so. And also in his defense, I don't 760 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: know how Tabitha brought it up, not saying that she 761 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: came at him hard about it. If she asked him 762 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: from a good place and he acted that defensive, that sucks. 763 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm going to say that my girl, 764 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: Tabitha came from a really good place and didn't get 765 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: mad at him and was just like, hey, you know what, 766 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm feeling frustrated because you know, when I see that 767 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: you took this whole day off, I make up that 768 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: you don't care about me and you don't care about 769 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, the days that will be needed for the baby. 770 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: That's how I know Tabitha said it. I know she. 771 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: I know she said it that way and so well, 772 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: and I appreciate Tabitha at least acknowledging his need for 773 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: some some time mental health day. So it's just, you know, Tabitha, 774 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: You're not crazy. You know. He needs to understand that 775 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: his time is in his time here pretty soon, Okay, 776 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: like the baby is a priority. So he'll hopefully he'll 777 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: come around to that and realize that. So just keep 778 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: having a conversation from a good place and you know, 779 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: work it out. Here's another one for you. I've been 780 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: married to my husband for five years now, and we 781 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: have two beautiful children, ages four and one. Recently, with 782 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: balancing our full time jobs, daily chores, and two very 783 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: needy and demanding little children, at the end of the day, 784 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: i just want to crawl into bed, but I'm also 785 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: longing to connect with my husband, let alone, go out 786 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: on a date. It's hard to find time alone time 787 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: together amongst the chaos of raising a family. I'm horrible 788 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: at staying up late to watch a movie. I feel 789 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: like our alone time needs to be specifically planned out 790 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: time activity, because we sometimes spend thirty minutes talking about 791 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: what we should do together. What advice would you give 792 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: to those couples just trying to ride out the wave? 793 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: Good question, Kara, Um, Michael and I have a marriage calendar. Um, 794 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: and we basically I mean it can change, but you 795 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: know it's like Mondays we read a book together. Um, 796 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: Tuesday's we have our own time or or something. Usually 797 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: actually Monday's we've because you have therapy. So usually it's 798 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: been like your own time, but like it it changes, 799 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: but we have like Wednesday's will do game night. Yeah, 800 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: we try to have four nights a week that are 801 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: typically planned on we're spending it together and what we're doing. 802 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: So we have yet Jana said, typically Monday nights we 803 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: read a chapter of this book that we're reading, and 804 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: then we like maybe watch a show or hang out 805 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: or play a game whatever else we want, but we 806 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: do that first. This is all after the kids go down, 807 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: you know. Tuesday is we play a game after the 808 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: kids go down, and then maybe we'll watch the show 809 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: or hang out. Wednesday's intentional time, so no phones, no TV, 810 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: no you know, distraction. We just sit on the couch 811 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: and a glass of wine and just talk, um, find 812 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: out what's new in each other's worlds. And then we 813 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: try to do a date night, you know, one of 814 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: the other night. So we know that's not easy for everybody. Um, 815 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's easier said than done, but it's just 816 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: knowing what you're gonna do. Like you're saying, you know 817 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: Kara or is it Sarah? You think she suppose a't 818 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: c A R A age. I mean I thought it 819 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: was Sarah, but I'm thinking it's Kara because Car, I 820 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: really thought that would planned that one out well to 821 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: cover our bases. Kara, Kara, Sarah whereich every one of 822 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: those were just want to respect you in your name? Um, 823 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, so I would say try to schedule something 824 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: like that and just be flexible with each other. It's like, hey, 825 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: I had a long day, I'm exhausted. Can we just 826 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: get into bed and watch something? Sure, but then knowing 827 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: that there are gonna be days where one or both 828 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: of you're tired, but you committed to doing something different 829 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: with each other, and if it's just like start with 830 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: just one day, start with just like, Hey, on Wednesdays, 831 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: can we just have intentional time or we just or 832 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: on Thursdays, can we, um, you know, on Monday, let's 833 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: pick up the movie we're gonna watch Thursday, so we 834 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: don't wait already minutes to figure it out. Like Michael's like, hey, 835 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: we're watching this movie on this day, you know, together. Um, 836 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: so yeah, just it's tough, but just try to ask 837 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: for what you need and um try to yeah, try 838 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: to plan it out a little bit might help. Um, 839 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: you guys are awesome. We'll see you in Canada.