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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Fridays are for the r Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at it right here, the best damn sports

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Speaker 1: podcast in the world today. It's April first, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: And no, this ain't no joke Morning Combat. Yes, wow,

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Speaker 1: And my co host is Fred Durst and he did

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Speaker 1: it all for the nookie look of any episode. To

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Speaker 1: What the hell, Luke Thomas, are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Ready? Here we go? How do you do? Fellow kids?

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Speaker 1: Let's make it, Luke?

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Speaker 2: Could I look? Could we look? And especially me? Could

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Speaker 1: Basically, they can laud us with awards from here to eternity,

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Speaker 1: but we won't stop being who we are, Luke, And

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Speaker 1: that's washed all right, this is Morning Combat. As we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the best damn combat sports show period. But according to

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Speaker 1: the Sports podcast Group, the inaugural awards show yesterday, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, we are also the best. I don't look,

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Speaker 1: We can get We're gonna get into the criterion all

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Speaker 1: thank you Morning Combat Universe. Wow wow, Luke, I mean what, yeah, wow?

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Speaker 1: We got a weird show for you today. Why, I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: It gives us great pleasure to announce the sports podcast

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Speaker 4: the winners. Guys, I have a little bit of news

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Speaker 7: You are we are we for as for as dark

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got the you nailed this body. It's the

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: three days, so what my way to celebrate will be

435
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: to get slumber so I don't die.

436
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Speaker 1: Mommy, why is dad always eating bobbies? I don't understand it.

437
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all.

438
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 4: Right, Well, go take a nap and go get your

439
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 4: special new vate pen. Maybe you can get it engraved.

440
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 4: But congratulations again, think, thank you so much, Thank you

441
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 4: so so much.

442
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: We did not expect it. I swear I had no idea,

443
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 2: and I'm over the moon, really truly if for it

444
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 2: to be in this position, and for everyone who voted,

445
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: thank you so seriously.

446
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 1: Look, I don't I don't know how to like quantify

447
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 1: what that means. Like, look, I'm not going to try

448
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: to act like we just want an oscar and got

449
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 1: slapped by Will Smith. I mean, these awards again, they're

450
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: only as big as you make it in your own mind.

451
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 1: But this was a panel of experts that saw something.

452
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Speaker 1: I think what helped us, Luke is we found out

453
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: that the combat sports category was the most voted category

454
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Speaker 1: in this entire podcast awards. But dude, we've been out

455
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 1: like Stugatts's NFL podcast and you know, everything on the

456
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Speaker 1: Ringer and dude, like what do you what do you say? Luke?

457
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: The hell? How do you even?

458
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, wow, I don't know. I Mean that's

459
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: the thing too. It's like all the fans voted for

460
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Speaker 2: us to get the combat sports one, which is great,

461
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: you know, but this one to get the sports one.

462
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: That was that small panel of all of the industry

463
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: media figures from Facebook and Sky and everything else, and

464
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 2: then they all voted among all of the sports winners

465
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: and decided that we were the ones that should win that.

466
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Speaker 2: That's like, yeah, man, I've I'm used to most of

467
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: the projects in my life being widely ignored by audiences

468
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: whose attention I covet, including but not limited to members

469
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Speaker 2: of my family. But I don't know this. MK works, dude,

470
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: MK works. It just works. It works the way it's

471
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Speaker 2: supposed to. I don't have to fight for the things

472
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: that I want. They just come a lot more naturally,

473
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Speaker 2: and so I'm pretty grateful for it. Man.

474
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Speaker 1: I am happy they edited out the part where she said,

475
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: how do you plan to reveal this to your audience?

476
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: And it's like full frontal nudity. Hopefully she was like.

477
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: BC literally told this woman full frontal nudity. I was

478
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: just like, I mean, I don't know what we're doing.

479
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know who she was at that moment.

480
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: I feel bad in hindsight, but thank you to the

481
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Speaker 1: Sports Podcast Award Group, thank you to everyone. Thank you.

482
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: We don't need to belabor this. We can, you know

483
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: you can. We can only Marilyn Manson.

484
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: I do want to make a point because as I

485
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: couldn't for I couldn't. I couldn't leave on a on

486
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: a high note. If it was my job, I have

487
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: to leave on a sour note. So I posted those

488
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Speaker 2: two stories on my Instagram feed yesterday, the one of

489
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Speaker 2: the winning the first one and the one of the

490
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Speaker 2: the one that the Donks made for us at Malka

491
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Speaker 2: for the two awards, right, and I posted both of them.

492
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Speaker 2: You can see who saw your stories? So I looked.

493
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Speaker 2: Not only did my brother and sister and dad see

494
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Speaker 2: all three of them and not say anything to me.

495
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Speaker 2: I wanted to point out, you can actually see now

496
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Speaker 2: who likes your stories. They give like a heart or whatever.

497
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: The row of hearts stops and then the first three

498
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: names are my family. They saw it and I didn't

499
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: even get I didn't get a call or text on it.

500
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: I didn't even get the heart emoji. So I really

501
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: have to think. I really want to thank you and

502
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: the audience, because I'm dead serious. If it wasn't for

503
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: you guys, no one in my life would really care.

504
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to take you for granted, you know.

505
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean sorry, Luke, but I'll say this, look MK

506
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: is your family now and wow, thank you folks. That

507
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 1: was topics one. But we're not going to live this

508
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: down anytime soon. Our arrogance, our big headedness, it's only

509
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: getting bigger, Luke. But hopefully we can give back even

510
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: more to the fans, more opportunities, more access. It's growing

511
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: it's growing, dude, you know, Luke, if you're coming on right,

512
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: we are, bro.

513
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Although I'll say this, we'll see exactly how big this

514
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: award is when it comes time to renegotiate. That's when

515
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: we'll really know. That's when we'll get to see the

516
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: real value. You know.

517
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like sports podcast awards.

518
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: Never heard of it.

519
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: Congratulations though, guys. All right, Luke, topic number two on

520
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: this weird barren day in terms of combat sports news

521
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: is also a pat on our own back in a way.

522
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: But there's some news to react to, as many people know.

523
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Speaker 1: In fact, I think one hundred and twenty thousand of them, Luke.

524
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Speaker 1: We visited Gilbert Durinho Burns last week outside of Fort

525
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: Lauderdale there at Stanford MMA. It's gonna be April ninth,

526
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more than a week from today when

527
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: he takes on Hamsat Chimaya at UFC two seventy three.

528
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: But Luke, there are a few different categories that made

529
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Speaker 1: that interview so compelling. Obviously, it was Gilbert's ability to

530
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: be so real with us and raw, but there's some

531
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Speaker 1: interesting things that he's doing and talking about ahead of

532
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Speaker 1: this fight with Hamzad and Luke, as we know for

533
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: both guys, there's a high risk, high reward here. There

534
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: is a catapult right back into the top of the

535
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Speaker 1: line of the title picture with a win most likely

536
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Speaker 1: for both. Maybe you can argue Chamayav goes directly there,

537
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: given how high his hype is. But Gilbert burns off

538
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: the loss to Tremaiev I'm gonna sorry, off the loss

539
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: to Kamara Usman and then coming back and beating wonder

540
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Speaker 1: Boy Thompson. Look, he's gonna be thirty six soon. He's

541
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Speaker 1: trying to double down there to be great. Get back there, Luke,

542
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: before we throw to some sound, I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you this though, Okay, because we brought up Kamara Usman,

544
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Speaker 1: and I think a great part of that interview, which

545
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw too soon, is him talking about the

546
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Speaker 1: loss and all that, but then he goes, oh, yeah, tomorrow.

547
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Speaker 1: He was here earlier today and our staff at CBS

548
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: Sports got some great video of the two of them sparring,

549
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: and I think that that made a lot of people

550
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Speaker 1: go oh really like they're still former teammates but still

551
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Speaker 1: good friends, and Kamorrow is still doing it. Luke, is

552
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Speaker 1: there any cynical side of you that's saying, Okay, I'm

553
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: sure Kamorrow is a great guy. I'm sure he likes

554
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Speaker 1: to help out his boy, but maybe he wants to

555
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: train up his boy Gilbert to beat this irresistible force

556
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: that's hom's at Chamayav so that maybe he doesn't have

557
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Speaker 1: to meet him at the end the day. Do you

558
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: subscribe at all to that?

559
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe a little bit, maybe a little bit.

560
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: I think it would make I guess it would obviously

561
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: make Kamarrew's job in life a little bit easier if

562
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Speaker 2: Gilbert did the dirty work for him. Probably does. I mean,

563
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Speaker 2: humans have a selfish motivation, no matter how altruistic they

564
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: try to be at times, and so that probably does

565
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Speaker 2: play a role. But I also think that like what

566
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: might like here's what you have to ask yourself. If

567
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Speaker 2: Gilbert was fighting somebody who wasn't a threat to Kamaru,

568
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Speaker 2: would Camoro still help And I have a feeling that

569
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Speaker 2: he would. I have a feeling that what really is

570
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Speaker 2: driving this is maybe a little bit of like help

571
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Speaker 2: me out here, scratchdrow back, I'll scratch yours. But also

572
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: that I think he probably wanted to make sure that

573
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Speaker 2: he and Gilbert were if not back to what they

574
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Speaker 2: were before, back better to a better place than what

575
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Speaker 2: they were when they fought his adversaries, having some kind

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Speaker 2: of normalcy there. I think, you know, certainly Gilbert thirty

577
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Speaker 2: five is a little b older than Kamora. I'm not

578
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Speaker 2: sure how old Kamora was, thirty three, thirty four, something

579
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: like that, but you know, both of them are in

580
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: pretty similar life positions. They're not too far apart. And

581
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: so I genuinely believe that he wanted to not right

582
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: a wrong, but get back a little of what the

583
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: relationship had before fighting got in the way of it.

584
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: So maybe a little column A, little column B, but

585
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: not strictly column A.

586
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: All right, I want to go backwards before we go forward.

587
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: So head up, heads up to Long Island, Luke. I

588
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: want to throw it to the Kamorrow video first, if

589
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: that's possible. But we sat down with Gilbert, and a

590
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: big part of him being so real was us asking

591
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: us what went wrong in the Tomorrow fight and what

592
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: he learned about that that could help fuel this turnaround

593
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: which started with wonder Boy Thompson and now comes directly

594
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Speaker 1: into Hamza CHAMAIAV. Let's hear what he had to.

595
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: Say what happened in your walk us through in your

596
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: mind what went right? What went wrong?

597
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 9: I was very emotional going through the fight, to be honest,

598
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 9: in the first thing that was the that was the

599
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 9: first mistake.

600
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Speaker 2: Like you wanted to get a kamorrow or you were

601
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: like you didn't know how you were going to feel

602
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: about it.

603
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know how was I was going to feel it?

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Speaker 9: How was how was I was? How was it I

605
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 9: was going to feel about it? But he sat something

606
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 9: on the on the pre fight that got on my

607
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 9: head a little. Being then I was so mad that

608
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 9: he got to my head.

609
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He sat something like.

610
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Speaker 9: Uh, I think bratt Okamoto asking me, hey, so he.

611
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: Got strained together so many times.

612
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 9: So the coach saw that training, the training partner saw

613
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 9: that train they know who's gonna win. And then he said, yeah,

614
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 9: for sure.

615
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: They know who's gonna win. And then I like.

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Speaker 9: And then I was there like, oh, you'll see who's

617
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 9: gonna win then, And that on the beginning that put

618
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 9: a fire on me that I thought was good, but

619
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Speaker 9: wasn't good. That motivation come from the angry, come from

620
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Speaker 9: the from all the place. A lot of people say

621
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Speaker 9: angry is good yeah, it's good whenever you control it.

622
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Speaker 9: But whenever the first started, I want to get to heine,

623
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Speaker 9: you know, And then I did. But whenever I got

624
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 9: and I landed that hand, most of the times, I'm

625
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 9: very comfortable throwing seeing you going down, thinking next one,

626
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Speaker 9: maybe one step back and keep that combination. Whenever I

627
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 9: throw that right handed, I saw the other handed with

628
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 9: just I saw it with a lot of angry on it,

629
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Speaker 9: and I felt that, oh shit, I'm like, I gotta

630
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 9: calm down.

631
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Speaker 1: But then I was the anger just kind of threw

632
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Speaker 1: covid a little. Being there.

633
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Speaker 9: I was very emotion.

634
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Look, that's an honest, wise reaction to something right.

635
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: There, incredibly wise, incredibly honest, and I thought I had

636
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: I think we walked away that interview being like, wow, dude,

637
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: Gilbert was like super introspective. But the truth of it

638
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: is to get to the place that he wants to

639
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Speaker 2: go right. Because he went and tasted the top and

640
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: he fell short. He had a couple of moments of excitement,

641
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: but he did fall short. He was not going to

642
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: get back there again or defeat anyone of that level

643
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: unless he understood what had gone wrong the first time.

644
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: And that sounds kind of obvious, but it's like the

645
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: process of figuring out what went wrong and why it

646
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: went wrong. It's not so much what happened in the

647
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: training room as you can see, although certainly getting better

648
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: overall will improve his chances, but getting a mindset through

649
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: sports psychology, through therapy. Quite honestly, that was a Remember

650
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: how Burns broke down into tears after that loss in

651
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: the cage. Clearly that was a devastating moment in his

652
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: professional life, but that bleeds over into your personal life

653
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: as well, and so I think he had to find

654
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: a way to get right, make peace with it, and

655
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: allow himself the space and the launch pad he needs

656
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: to go once more into the breach. We'll see what

657
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: happens at UFC two seventy three, but at least in

658
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: terms of doing the legwork, it appears like he's done it.

659
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went on to break down, like you mentioned,

660
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: getting the sports psychologist and really going after it there,

661
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: and Luke, it's like he's so humble, so real, but

662
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: yet you know, he's a savage in the cage. He's

663
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: the real deal. But I just love the honesty and

664
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: the maturity to go. You know, I'm not done but

665
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: something was off there. Let me dig deep. I mean, look, look,

666
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: I go to therapy. It's not easy. It's not easy

667
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: to dig in and figure out, you know, what you

668
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: did wrong. And it's like, damn, he came so close

669
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: in that first round to you know, putting it on tomorrow,

670
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: and he dropped him and he hurt him. But like

671
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: he said, it was fueled off the wrong emotion. He

672
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: wants to be in that state of flow obviously where

673
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: he can be level headed and relaxed, and he wasn't

674
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: in there in that So to be able to identify

675
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: that early enough where you still have a window in

676
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: your career to make another run is so smart. But look,

677
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, I heard a little bit of your live

678
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: chat yesterday and you had a good little breakdown of

679
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: how people miss out a lot when trying to characterize

680
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: a fighter's true prime. And sometimes you know that they

681
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: categorize it too early or too late. And I think,

682
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, we tend to think of a fighter's physical

683
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: prime as usually somewhere around twenty six to twenty seven

684
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: through like let's say thirty three to thirty four. But Luke,

685
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Gilbert Burns is in a different kind of

686
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: prime right now? Where is he the same at thirty

687
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: five and a half or three quarters physically as he

688
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: was earlier. No, but you're seeing the wisdom and the

689
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: job experience and the trial and error and everything that

690
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: comes with, you know, juggling wins and losses. And this

691
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: is obviously something that works in the fight game, but

692
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: it's also a mirror image of how we navigate our

693
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: lives and the lessons that if you don't learn them,

694
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep repeating them. I have so much respect

695
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: for who he is right now. I think sometimes fighters

696
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: get to this point thirty five thirty six, where okay,

697
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: maybe they're only seventy percent physically of what they were,

698
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: but that increase of knowledge and experience in efficiency can

699
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: make them even more dangerous than before.

700
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very possible that there's a trade off between

701
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: athletic potential given age, but the trade off comes with

702
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: the sort of sage understanding of themselves, of the process

703
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: of the opponent, of all the things that are demanded

704
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: of them. So it's a it's a loss of some

705
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: athletic ability, but it's a net gain overall in fighting

706
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: ability by virtue of some of those other things, and

707
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: he might be in a similar kind of place. I mean,

708
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: it's one thing about therapy. I've been you know, as

709
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: will come as no surprise to the audience. I've had

710
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: various moments in my life, Rob. I'm not in therapy now,

711
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: but I have been for other periods. And it's not

712
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: just that you want to confront what has gone wrong

713
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: in your life. That by itself, that is one step

714
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: and frankly a very important step of that process. But

715
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: you would not believe how many times people fighters, whoever

716
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: is engaged in some kind of reflective journey, will misdiagnose

717
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: the problem. Right. That's why you want to talk to

718
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: an expert. That's why you want to have someone to

719
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: bounce your ideas about what had gone wrong off of

720
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: them and to get some better guidance. And sometimes that

721
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: guidance And you know, if you know, I will say this, BC,

722
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't you agree? Burns didn't tell us everything that the

723
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: sports psychologist told him. Why would he? However, he did

724
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: seem to indicate that at several times that it was

725
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable to hear and very difficult for him to accept,

726
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: and it took him a little while to accept that

727
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: whatever was told to him about the truth was something

728
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: that he had to listen to. But it sounds like

729
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: he came around and he did. And again, does that

730
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: mean he'll beat Hamzad, I don't know. But what it

731
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: does mean is that he has put himself in the

732
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: best position to do so and to not fall completely

733
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: apart in the event that he goes it goes poorly,

734
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: or to get too far out in front of his

735
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: skis in the event that it goes right. It's a

736
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: it's a very middle ground approach that I think is

737
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: very ground did in a clear understanding of reality.

738
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was refreshing to hear him share that.

739
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I saw some people respond and go, oh, this means

740
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: he's going to lose. He's he's you know, he's not

741
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: as solid as he needs to be. No, I think

742
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: he's showing you that it's a journey. It's a constant journey,

743
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: and and I think he's mentally at least where he

744
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: needs to be to put his best foot forward. So

745
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: I give him that credit. And Luke, A lot of

746
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: people liked that refreshing nature of it. And you know, look,

747
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: did we set him up to do that? Maybe you

748
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: could say that. But we also got very lucky that

749
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: he was willing. We are in a combat sports journalism

750
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: era where it's it's it's click, man, it's click. It's

751
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: it's people trying to entrap fighters into saying things that

752
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: will move product. And you know, while that's not our

753
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: upfront goal, like some of our compatriots in this game, Luke,

754
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: you and I are still going in there trying to

755
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: get the SoundBite that people are gonna go, oh shit,

756
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, and they're gonna click on it, and we're

757
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: all gonna benefit from it. I don't you know, We're

758
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: lucky this is getting big traffic, maybe because it was

759
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: well shot and so real. But even if you know,

760
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: one thousand people watch this, even if we got boxing

761
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: traffic on this video, Luke, I would be very happy

762
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: that we got it what we got because you don't

763
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: hear this enough. I think I think a lot of

764
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: these athletes and and I'm not trying to call them

765
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: these athletes as if I'm you know, saying they're doing

766
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: it wrong. They are in a position, Luke, of of

767
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: of of being criticized, of in such a dangerous job

768
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: where the mental stress is so high, and and you know,

769
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: but a lot of them are protecting what's really going

770
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: on on the inside. Have those those answers ready to

771
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: go that they give to every interf I mean, it's

772
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: it's hard to break through that crust here. It was

773
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: maybe it was right place, right time with Gilbert, but

774
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: I think it's someone who's also willing to show but

775
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: there's a real person underneath that. And I hope, I

776
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: hope we see more like this, Luke, whether it's us

777
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: doing the interviewing or whether it's anyone else, I hope

778
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: we see more honesty like this.

779
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll say this too. If Hamza Shamayav beats

780
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: this version of Gilbert, you know, you got to take

781
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: your hat off to that guy, because this dude is

782
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: going to be ready. He's going to be prepared. He's

783
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 2: going to understand what least you know, his tasks are,

784
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: and he is in a very good position to get

785
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: them to be made real. I saw by the way

786
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: the odds are only increasing in Hamzad's favor. He's up

787
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: to ABC ready for this, He's up to a minus

788
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: six hundred, and again, I don't know what's going to

789
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: happen in UFC two. Seventy three. But I'll just say this, dude,

790
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a little bit off, at least

791
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: a little bit. And again, if Hamzak can beat this

792
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: version of Gilbert Burns, you know, yes, you absolutely can

793
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: give him a title shot because this will be as

794
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: thorough a test as any contender could pass.

795
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: And now, like like you always hedge and say, and

796
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: it's right, you know, sometimes these odds can be this

797
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: wide because they're trying to bring in more on the

798
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: other side, and maybe all the early money was, you know,

799
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: riding the buzz of Hamzat's probably true. Obviously Gilbert has

800
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: a much better chance realistically than those odds say. But Luke,

801
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: next week we're gonna break down x's and o's go

802
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper on the storylines. But one of

803
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: those storylines that got talked about a couple other media

804
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: sites wrote about it, and we asked Gilbert about it.

805
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: It's how Gilbert is preparing to deal with that unique

806
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: skill set that Hamzad brings. We don't know how good

807
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: or great Hamzak could be, but what we've seen in

808
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: that short sample is incredible, and it's grapple heavy, it's

809
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: it's submissions. It's aggressiveness, it's so much. Here's a little

810
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: secret on the inside to how Gilbert Burns is preparing

811
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: to deal with that false You're bringing in some super

812
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: top secret Russian grapplers and you're not disclosing the names

813
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: they might be here. They might be hiding behind the

814
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: the pad.

815
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: That was at their request, correct, they requested to remain anonymous.

816
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: So what is not in your game completely that you're

817
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: hoping this ad to, this training camp does to prepare

818
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: you to defeat you my own.

819
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 9: A couple of things that they put on my game,

820
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 9: especially the cage control and that and a lot of

821
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 9: things to the way I see is I need to

822
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 9: get a long guy wrestler, like not not a wrestler,

823
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 9: not an American wrestler, but a Russian wrestler with a

824
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 9: Russian system, like trying to take me down, hold onto

825
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 9: my legs, control long. So the way I see, I

826
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 9: need to be in that position a couple of times

827
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 9: to get comfortable, even if it's a bad position. But

828
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 9: I need to feel that many times in my training campaign.

829
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 9: Then start getting the answers, and sometimes first time I

830
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 9: didn't get the answer, Like man, I feel very uncomfortable,

831
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 9: and then I was kind of getting back onto that

832
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 9: seeing visualizing, seeing the position study, and uh, that's what

833
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 9: I need for these guys, like especially nowadays. You know,

834
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 9: I just formed many times.

835
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 6: I did I grapple many times.

836
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 9: So now what I want to see when when I

837
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 9: do have a fight coming up, I want to get

838
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 9: to get as close as I can to what I'm facing.

839
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 9: If I'm facing freaking new Magny, I'm gonna bring it.

840
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 9: If we don't have it, he is samful, I'm going

841
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 9: to bring a tall guy, lanky, moving, good good boxing,

842
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 9: good thing Donalds. If I'm fighting Sean Brady, I want

843
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 9: to bring this small guy, very strong, like.

844
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Lots of tattoo.

845
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: Uh luke, let's get into this. Why is this so secretive?

846
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: I like the idea of Okay, Humza CHRAMAIV is doing

847
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: something a little bit different, a little bit new. Maybe

848
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: not new, but but you know he's executing his grappling

849
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: at such a high level that Gilbert trying to countertrain.

850
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: That is very smart. Why are we not finding out

851
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: who these guys are?

852
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: I think there's probably well I'm going to guess because

853
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: he wouldn't even tell us. We asked, even off the

854
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: record when there was no answer to be had. So

855
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. My guess is going to be one.

856
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: If you know who those people are, they might have

857
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: a more famous system that could also be picked up on.

858
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: In other words, oh, I hired this coach, and everyone

859
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: knows what it means to hire this coach, what kinds

860
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: of things you're going to be working on. So in

861
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: that sense, it takes a little bit of the mystery

862
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: out of what he's referencing. So that could be one.

863
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: The other one could be And I saw someone else

864
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: introduce this, so it's not my idea, but I didn't

865
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: think of it at first, and then I saw and

866
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it could be. How's that Chamayev

867
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: is Chechen? And it looks like Ramzan Kadirov, who is

868
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: involved with this Russian invasion into Ukraine along with Vladimir

869
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Putin's forces, it looks like he had a bit of

870
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: a falling out with habib Or is no longer interested

871
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: in him and is very interested in Hamzat Chimayev. And

872
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: again these are all relative things. I don't really know,

873
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: and I don't know exactly to what extent it's mutual

874
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: between Jamaiva and Kadirov. He might just be going along

875
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: with it because he has to. I have no idea,

876
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: but the point I'm trying to make here is I

877
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: wonder if those guys live in Russia might be concerned

878
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: about their safety helping a Brazilian to beat the favored

879
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: son well, not favorite song, but a fighter who was

880
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: well admired by a basically a warlord, and more than that,

881
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 2: a dictator could be for self preservation reasons. I mean

882
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: the top of it.

883
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: That sounds conspiratorial, but look at the political status we're at.

884
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: And also, let's not forget when Shamaiah had that long

885
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: break with back to back COVID, he publicly came out

886
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: and kind of retired because he didn't think he would

887
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: physically recover. And it was how am I saying it?

888
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Kadirov.

889
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: Kadirov who came out and was like, no, no, no,

890
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: he's not He's fine, you'll be back, Like remember that, Luke.

891
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: He was just like just dismissed anything physical and was

892
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: like So it made you believe, if you're going to

893
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: go to the conspiracy route, that there's a lot of

894
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: money tied into Chamiav's success.

895
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: True false, right, yes, true.

896
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: So I wonder if it's more non Chechen Russian based

897
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: guys like you say, who who don't want the pr

898
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: issue or worse? I mean, Luke, I don't know, we

899
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: don't know who it is to. To speculate would just

900
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: be speculation. I do know Shavkot Rock Monooff is in

901
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: that camp. I do know Habib has the same agent

902
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: as you know, manager as a Burns. You know, I

903
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: jokingly said maybe it was Hibeban Fador. Luke, I don't

904
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: know who it is. You can connect any dots you want,

905
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: but he has an opportunity to meaning Gilbert Burns if

906
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: he made the right two calls to these two guys

907
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: to get people that really know what they're doing on

908
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: the ground. Does that change your idea of what Gilbert

909
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: Burns's chances are if let's say, and this is just

910
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: let's just say, who knows if he's training with Abib

911
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: right now for this? I don't know, But what if, Luke?

912
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, could be, it could be could be Habib

913
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: in Islam for all we know. I mean, I don't,

914
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'll see this. I actually think

915
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: it improves Gilbert's chances to a degree. I mean this

916
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: the level of specificity to get a certain kind of

917
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: system with a certain kind of athlete that even mirrors

918
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: the body type of Tamaiev. It's hard to look at

919
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: that and think that can only benefit his chances. How

920
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: much is certainly debatable, but it doesn't. Yeah, that's gotta help,

921
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: but probably gotta help a lot. The one thing I

922
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: think that is still working against Burns is that Tamaiev

923
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: has big power, big power, and we know his knockout

924
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: power carries up to middleweight. Gilbert is not a He's

925
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: not a lightweight anymore. He told me. He told us

926
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: he could still make one fifty five, like if he

927
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: was doing bodybuilding or something. He could make it, hit

928
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: the scale and then rehydrate, but he couldn't fight on

929
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: it anymore. So there is a real difference and ability there.

930
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: That's one thing that Habib now that he had no

931
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: power in terms of his ground and pound, but Humzad

932
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: appears to be able to thump in a way that

933
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: is a little bit different. So what I would say

934
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: is in terms of the positions and the method and

935
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: mode and progression of ground attacks, I do think that's

936
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: gonna help burns a ton. The thing that he's still

937
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: up against is a guy who is a hammer who

938
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: has knockout power, a weight class above where Gilbert has

939
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: even fought. That threat is very much undiminished.

940
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And just so people don't dead wrong me, I

941
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: obviously understand Rockmanoff. The name I mentioned is from Muzbekistan,

942
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: but I also know people.

943
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: No, I think he's Kasak.

944
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: I think he's Kazakhstan, right, but he was born in Uzbekistan.

945
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: But I get that people loop in all former Russian

946
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: territories sometimes as Russians. That's why I'm just opening up

947
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: the full spectrum of possibility. But hey, great chat with Gilbert.

948
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: If you haven't checked it out yet, we encourage you

949
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: to do that YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat so

950
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: much more if you're new to our show. Beyond our

951
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: three live shows every Monday Wednesday Friday eleven am Eastern

952
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: here on YouTube, we got interviews, we got breakdowns, so

953
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: we got Luke's extra credit. We've got post fight live

954
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: analysis after the big ones as well, so check that out.

955
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: Luke one more interview I want to throw to Look,

956
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't expect this to get a ton of traffic

957
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: giving our fan base and it won't, but I think

958
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: it was important. Derek James is one of the top

959
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: boxing trainers in the world today. He's a former page which.

960
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: Which interview did better? The Gilbert interview or the Derreck James.

961
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a lot of fun over over over

962
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: over text with me.

963
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: I like James's good.

964
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: It's a good interview, it is, and he's very very

965
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: well well spoken, into the into the craft, but the

966
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: mindset because he was a former fighter himself, didn't have

967
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: a large decorated career, but he gets it. And Luke,

968
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: he's got Erol Spence Junior and Jamel Charlow, two of

969
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: the top you know, fifteen twenty pound for pound fighters

970
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: in the world that are both gonna have big time

971
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: unification and do or undisputed championship outs coming up. So

972
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I encourage people to check it out, just to talk

973
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: it with, just to hear from Derek about Erol Spence

974
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: coming back from retina surgery ahead of this or your

975
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: Dennis Ugas showtime pay per view. It's gonna be April sixteenth, Arlington, Texas. Luke,

976
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: you and I will be there. Can't wait for that.

977
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: And then obviously not too long after May fourteenth, Carson, California. Yes,

978
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: the old Hub stub Hub Center, dig Deny Hell's Sports Park.

979
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the rematch of Dremel charlo versus Brian

980
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: Castano for all four junior middleweight titles. Luke, I hope

981
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: you and I end up there as well.

982
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Way, I gotta say very quickly, there's a couple of

983
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: venues that are like big boxing venues that are not

984
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: necessarily MMA venues. That's one of them. And I've actually

985
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: never been to that one. So for me bit of

986
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: a bucket list to go to that event and see

987
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: some good boxing there.

988
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: So if Laurel Ronalo calls it the punch Bowl, Ray

989
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Floor has always called it the Wargrounds. If you don't

990
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: know about this, it's it's in Carson, California. So it's

991
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: right next to the soccer stadium, right where the La

992
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Galaxy play, and it's a tennis arena dug into the ground,

993
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: and it's been called the Home Depot Center. It's been

994
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: called many things, StubHub Center, but there was a stretch

995
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, in the decade that followed that,

996
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: just it's one action fight after another. There's something in

997
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: the water there or in the air. It's the Mexican

998
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: American fan base that loves fighting. But all of the

999
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: fans are sitting up in this tennis arena looking down

1000
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: at the ring and dude from Marquez versus Vasquez two

1001
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: and three to Provadna call versus Tim to you, could

1002
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: you know Matissa versus versus? What's his name? John Molina?

1003
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, There's been war after war there. I

1004
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: expect this rematch to be a war because, by the way,

1005
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Brian Castano now saying they robbed me the first time,

1006
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock Jermel out and leave no doubt so

1007
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: excited for both. Why am I throwing to Derek James today?

1008
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: Two quickies here, Luke. Jamel Charlo has long said he

1009
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: would never fight Errol Spence Spence at one forty seven, right,

1010
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: Charlo at one fifty four, because they're teammates, they're brothers.

1011
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: Spence in the last month came out in a Boxing

1012
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: Scene dot com story and said, you know, I'd fight

1013
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: Charlo if the money was right. Right, Well, I said, look,

1014
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: let's ask the coach himself. So let's go to Derek

1015
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: James on that topic. You train them both Iron sharpens iron.

1016
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: But then I go on boxing scene and Narrol Spencer's like,

1017
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, no, I would fight Jermeal if the money

1018
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: was right. Jermel Ad previously said they'd never fight their brothers.

1019
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: When you hear this soap opera in this and I know,

1020
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: headline sometimes can change the meaning, what do you how

1021
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: do you react to seeing that?

1022
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 10: I mean, this is like my first time hearing that,

1023
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 10: So I mean I don't I mean, I don't know

1024
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 10: about it.

1025
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, listen, fighters fight.

1026
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 10: It's like this, what is an issue with best friends

1027
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 10: and good friends and stay you're making money together, you know.

1028
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 10: So that's the thing about it, is like this is

1029
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 10: funny about boxing. Right when you fight somebody there, you're

1030
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 10: a coworker. You can't make the money you make without

1031
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 10: the opponents you're fighting against. So if you fight somebody,

1032
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 10: that's a coworking anyway. So being if it's a guy,

1033
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 10: you know, I don't know how that works with two

1034
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 10: sable may fight each other, but you're just coworkers anyway.

1035
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to figure out can you get

1036
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: two paychecks that night or do they have to pick

1037
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: with which one wants you more. I mean there's there's

1038
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: always some some of that element that you don't want

1039
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: to go down if you don't have to.

1040
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 6: I'm not anything. I don't want to even think.

1041
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: About it, So we don't need to talk about that.

1042
00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 6: That's why.

1043
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 11: That's why, Luke, that could be a moot point because

1044
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 11: Jamel Charlo probably gonna move up to middleweight eventually.

1045
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: I do think Spence eventually goes to one p fifty four,

1046
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: though he's long talked about wanting to fight Canelo one

1047
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: day at a catchweight. We see that a lot in MMA,

1048
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: where guys in the same super campet to fight each other.

1049
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: And Okay, Tomorrow and Gilbert are still friends. John and

1050
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: Rashad weren't for a while, right, you know we've seen

1051
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: We've seen this happen many times.

1052
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 12: Uh.

1053
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: It's interesting though, if they became, you know, top three

1054
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: or four pounds per pound and they were still in

1055
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: the same weight category and it was one of the

1056
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: biggest fights to make. I mean, they are businessmen, Luke,

1057
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: you are fighting for legacy.

1058
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I will say something he said kind of stood

1059
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: out to me is interesting, which was, you know, they're

1060
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: basically your coworker. You can't make the money you're making

1061
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: without this other person. Now that's not really true for

1062
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: a lot of boxers and a lot of scenarios, but

1063
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: the ones he's talking about your Charlow's and your spences

1064
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: or whoever, Yes, it is very true for them. You

1065
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: just don't ever hear MMA fighters talk like that. Ever.

1066
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: You don't ever hear them have that show of solidarity

1067
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: that we're actually in this together a little bit. I

1068
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: don't know if that's just cultural. I don't know. In

1069
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: terms of the boxing versus MMA, I don't know if

1070
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: that's a function of the rules that open up you know,

1071
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: a level boxers to make a lot more money than

1072
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: it is for MMA fighters. So I can't quite pinpoint

1073
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: the difference. Your guest would be as good as mine,

1074
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: but I can say I don't know if I've ever

1075
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: heard an MMA coach or an MMA fighter say what

1076
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Derek James says in that clip, and that speaks volumes

1077
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: about what it's debatable.

1078
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't see this often in boxing because there's

1079
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: not as many like super teams like there is an MMA,

1080
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: so it doesn't come up. I remember when Freddie Roach

1081
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: started training Miguel Coto, him Miguel and Pacio kind of

1082
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: all shot down the idea of Pachio and Codo rematching

1083
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: because they're all in the same family. All though, Luke,

1084
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago, Danny Jacobs and Machi

1085
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: Silechki were in the same camp and they fought each

1086
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: other and and uh, and the trainer Andre Rozier stayed

1087
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: with Jacobs, who's his nephew, for that one fight and

1088
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: they got it. So it happens, but it's it's it's

1089
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: an interesting topic to tease upon. Nonetheless, Yeah, I mean,

1090
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: if if the money was right, would they do it?

1091
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Probably it'd be a great fight, though, Luke.

1092
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: One more thing with Derek James, and there's much more

1093
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: legitimate things to hear about if you want to check

1094
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: out that interview. But uh, Luke, there's things that I

1095
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: get stuck on. We all do, and I bring it

1096
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: up in interviews all the time because I want to

1097
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: know the truth. And sometimes as media members we get

1098
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: a little caught up on the he said, she said,

1099
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: or the or who kissed two and and maybe we're

1100
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: not supposed to know about it, right, Like who really

1101
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: won that Pauly malanag Econor McGregor sparring match, Luke, will

1102
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: we ever know? I don't know, right, yeah, but here's

1103
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: what happened. Here's what I know. When Aero Spence first

1104
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: turn Pro twenty twelve kind of on known although he

1105
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: had a big amateur career, he was brought in by

1106
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather in the Miguel Coto fight camp in Las

1107
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: Vegas to Spa. Not many reports came out of that

1108
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: from people that were there, but there was always sort

1109
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: of that rumor that I think Spence did very good

1110
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: as a young fighter against Floyd, and some people always said, well,

1111
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's why Floyd at the end of his career

1112
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: avoided any talk of fighting Spence and from the very

1113
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: beginning came out put his arm around him, was like,

1114
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: Spence is going to be the next big thing. But Luke,

1115
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want to let sleeping dogs lie because I

1116
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: once heard an interview with Kenny Porter, the trainer and

1117
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: father of Sean Porter, who was in the gym that day.

1118
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: It was about five years ago, and he tells a

1119
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: story of young Spence being told by Floyd after the

1120
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: sparring got a little bit too heated to get out

1121
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: of the ring and Spencer's like, no, I'm not getting

1122
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: out of the ring. I'm staying here. And Luke I

1123
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: heard that they went at it. Now. I've interviewed Eryl Spence,

1124
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen times in the last six seven years.

1125
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: I asked him every interview and he don't get much.

1126
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: So I thought, hey, here's Derek James, he's close. Maybe

1127
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: he'll tell me. Let's see what he said that didn't

1128
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: go on his pro ledger that. I always try to

1129
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: ask him for extra details about. Nobody wants to talk

1130
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: about the sparring session with Floyd Mayweather from twenty twelve

1131
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: when a young Carol went in there. I had that

1132
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 1: Poto fight and may or may not have put it

1133
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: on Floyd. Sean Porter never tells me the truth. Kenny

1134
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: Porter always kind of sniffs around. Do you know the story?

1135
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: Did a did an early pro Arrol stand in there

1136
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: and say, no, Floyd, I'm not leaving this ring, let's

1137
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: do this thing.

1138
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: Well, I mons because I was a dear.

1139
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 10: I can only go about what was told to me

1140
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 10: by other people, and they just said, you know, you

1141
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 10: stoodn't go on any deal he was supposed to do it.

1142
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 10: He's a gentleman's foot, and from a gentleman's perspective, gentlemen

1143
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 10: don't talk about what happened by to do.

1144
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: Look, you may ask yourself, BC, why does that matter?

1145
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: Who cares? It's sparring. But you gotta understand Floyd was

1146
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: unbeaten right fifty and oho largely untouched in these fights,

1147
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: and Floyd always had a deal with the fact that

1148
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: there was this sparring video around two thousand and one,

1149
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and two when he took on former champion

1150
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: Paul spatafora who was in shape ready for a fight,

1151
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: Floyd wasn't. They sparred. The video leaked out and you

1152
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: could argue after watching that Spati four kind of got

1153
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: the better of Floyd, And for years we always made

1154
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: jokes where Floyd's unbeaten except for that sparring matchup with Spatafoor, Look,

1155
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: I just hear enough smoke here from this. Well, I

1156
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: think there's fire. I think young Spence put it on them.

1157
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: You don't care yea at all?

1158
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 13: Right?

1159
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: No, I actually I think it's kind of interesting. And

1160
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: the fact that people talk about the way that they do,

1161
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: rather than just dismissing it outright is tells you all

1162
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: you probably need to know. The only thing that I

1163
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: would caution is it possible to aerol Spence won the

1164
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: sparring session, not a doubt in my mind. Does that

1165
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: mean at that time he was a better boxer than Floyd, No,

1166
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that at all. Doesn't mean anything like that. So, yes,

1167
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: you can win sparring, but I got to be clear

1168
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: about this. The point of sparring is not necessarily to win.

1169
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: So like when you go and you spar with someone,

1170
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: if they're like, oh, I won the sparing sessions, like bitch,

1171
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to win. I was trying to work

1172
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: on parts of my game that I need to work

1173
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: on to develop to get to the next place I

1174
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: want to go, Which means in many cases you could

1175
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: end up doing poorly. But that doesn't mean you would

1176
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 2: end up doing poorly in the fight because maybe you're

1177
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: trying things that you wouldn't necessarily try. You have a

1178
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: focus on a certain amount of attacks you wouldn't necessarily

1179
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: do in a fight. You just want it for the sparring.

1180
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: There's lots of ways. That doesn't mean a whole lot

1181
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: other than do I think that Eryl Spence may have

1182
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: won that sparing session, yes, but you're not supposed to

1183
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: win sparring.

1184
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll end up like Heraldo and I'll do a

1185
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: special on al Capone's vault and it'll be empty, Luke.

1186
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: But one day I'm going to get down to the

1187
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: truth on that one and real quick, Luke. Speaking of

1188
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: teammates fighting each other or family, do you remember when

1189
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: d La Hoya fought Mayweather in two thousand and seven

1190
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: My wedding Night the at the time, the biggest pay

1191
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: per view of all time. Don't forget that Oscar's trainer

1192
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: at that time was Floyd Mayweather Senior, and him and

1193
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: Floyd or button heads. He wanted to train Oscar to

1194
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: beat his son. But Oscar's like, this is too weird.

1195
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: I gotta bring in Freddie Roach that. I don't think

1196
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: we would have ever seen something like that at the

1197
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: highest level where a dad is training against his son

1198
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: and they don't like each other, Like that would have

1199
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: been wild, right.

1200
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: That is weird. That is truly bizarre. I mean, and

1201
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: every time everyone's like, oh, I'd love to see brother

1202
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: versus brother, Dude, I saw brother versus brother with Phoenix

1203
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: Jones and Carlos Fordor, it's terrible. No, I don't want

1204
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: any part of that.

1205
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: No, that Floyd and Floyd Senior and Oscar thing. It

1206
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: would be kind of like if your dad started tweeting

1207
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: out like MMA our links. Right, Oh, come on, you

1208
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: could laugh at that. Don't don't do that.

1209
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm laughing. What do you want me to do?

1210
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: Don't castle off me again? Come on, all right, I'm.

1211
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: Laughing, I'm laughing.

1212
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: All right, to go here, Luke. Last night there was

1213
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: actually a pretty big boxing press conference taking place in Australia,

1214
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: also in Los Angeles. So here's the deal. The lightweight

1215
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: undisputed championship fight is set. We know George Campbosis Junior,

1216
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: who has three of the four belts something four of

1217
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: the four belts given boxing chaicanery after upsetting Tayo Fema Lopez.

1218
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna fight Devin Haney, the WBC champion. They announced

1219
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: at the press conference yesterday.

1220
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: Luke.

1221
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Saturday night, July fourth, that's of course,

1222
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: July fifth in Australia, and it's gonna air live on

1223
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: ESPN from Marvel Stadium, and they're gonna try to beat

1224
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: the boxing Australian record. There that Jeff Horn and Manny

1225
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: Pacio did about five years ago when they did fifty

1226
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 1: thousand spectators. So this is a big event and let's

1227
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: not forget the details. Devin Haney claims he took less money,

1228
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: like like I told you the other day, Shakers Stevenson

1229
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: for the Oscar val Dez fight, took less money just

1230
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: to get this opportunity. They signed a two fight deal.

1231
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: If Haney wins, there's an automatic rematch, and there's rumors

1232
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: that there's an option for the winner to face Lomachenko

1233
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: on pay per view. Shout out to Loudbella and Bob Aram,

1234
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: rival promoters coming together to sign Hany and make this happen.

1235
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: Here's a little sound from it, a little chippy yesterday

1236
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: at the lou de Bella Prescott.

1237
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 13: I'm not a kid, so he can stop calling me

1238
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 13: a kid. I'm a man and I will show him

1239
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 13: that in a ring, respect me as a man. And

1240
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 13: uh if he doesn't respect me as a man, I'm

1241
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 13: gaining the respect in the ring. And second of all,

1242
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 13: he he could say that he chose me, but that's

1243
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 13: not the truth. He was forced into this fight. He

1244
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 13: did not want He did not want to fight me,

1245
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 13: and up until up until today, he did not want

1246
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 13: to sign a contract up until today, so he can say.

1247
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 6: What he wanted to say.

1248
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 13: He did not choose me. He was forced into it.

1249
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 13: You were chosing, boy, and repeat the question, uh for

1250
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 13: me again. It wasn't I wasn't chosen.

1251
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 14: You were chosing.

1252
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: You didn't want theosition, you didn't want this fight position.

1253
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: I'll take the same deal Asma does. I'll take the

1254
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: same deal as Loma. Yeah, I do. And what did

1255
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: I do different?

1256
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 6: What did I do?

1257
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 13: What did I do? That's exactly exactly because I knew,

1258
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 13: because I knew I could be you show me June fifth. Trust,

1259
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 13: no matter what we I'll fight you anywhere wherever. I'll

1260
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 13: fight you in your backyard if I had you, because

1261
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 13: I know that I'm gonna beat you, and you'll see June.

1262
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: Fifth, I'll be whiting June fifth.

1263
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: Okay, look, this fires me the hell up. It's a

1264
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: huge fight. It's an important one, dude. We have to

1265
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: realize that for as broken as the boxing system is,

1266
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: we're seeing one undisputed championship fight after another. I mean,

1267
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: these guys cross the street to make this happen. HAINI

1268
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: taking less money. This is what we need in this

1269
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: sort of still broken political structural error era. Excuse me, dude,

1270
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: Cambosa's got big nuts. For god, It's gonna be a

1271
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: massive underdog in this fight.

1272
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: Dude, I gotta tell you you got I mean, if

1273
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: you we, we poop pooed any chance Cambos has had

1274
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: of winning. Then he goes out there and wins. It

1275
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: was a tough fight in the end, but he gets

1276
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: it done. Then he does everything you want from him

1277
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: to do, like to absolutely took advantage of that one

1278
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: moment in time to broadcast himself to the boxing world,

1279
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: got himself a big fight in Australia and did not

1280
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: take his foot off the gas even a little bit,

1281
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: took belts from Lopez and now is looking to take

1282
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 2: them all the rest of him. Anyway from from Devin Haney, Dude,

1283
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, you know, yes, the fight's in his

1284
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: home territory, but he fucking earned it. But by everything

1285
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: he did, and it wasn't like he punked out and

1286
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: looked for some bullshit fight. Now with this newfound fame,

1287
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: he went right back into the fire. And maybe you

1288
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: like his chances to beat Haney. Maybe you don't. But

1289
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: anybody is gonna respect Hani's opportunity here, Hani's chances, Hani's

1290
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 2: skill himself. In fact, I might even favor Hani, but

1291
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out, dude, you have got to love

1292
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: everything about George Cambosis and how he has conducted himself.

1293
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: You get a very narrow window, bcing, you know this

1294
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: for that lightning to strike and that dude to borrow

1295
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: the term has been riding the lightning since he won

1296
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: against against Taofey Malopez. Good for him, really good for him.

1297
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen early odds, but I'm gonna guess that

1298
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: Hane's going to be a big favorite because the at least.

1299
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: On paper the box boxing wise or big favorite like

1300
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: MMA odds wise. What do you say, big favorite? What

1301
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: do you mean?

1302
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: I think? Look, this is a great fight on paper,

1303
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: it has it. We can't forget that Hani against Jorge

1304
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: Lenaris was dominated that fight and then got hurt and

1305
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: then was going in the other direction. Right, So there

1306
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: is an opening for George Cambosa's to once again upset

1307
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: the apple cart by just being aggressive and being a badass.

1308
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: And everything you said about him is true. He's not

1309
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: looking to defend against nobody's and make money. He went

1310
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: to every big name tank, Ryan Garcia, Loma, now Hani

1311
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: and said, you know what's my biggest opportunity. I want

1312
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: to defend these belts, so shout out to him. But

1313
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: I think given Devin Haney's completely well rounded skill set,

1314
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: do we have some questions about his chin sum as

1315
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, he's going to be a big favorite. Look,

1316
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be minus five hundred even,

1317
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna has the POTENTI to be

1318
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: a close fight. If Cambosis can do the same things

1319
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: he did against Teto Fema, which is not be afraid

1320
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: to take on damage and get inside and make it

1321
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: a fight. I can't wait for this. I mean, Australia

1322
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: is gonna be rocking Luke. They're gonna have the pots

1323
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: of coffee on, They're gonna be going nuts. I think

1324
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: even our a MMA fans are going to be tuned

1325
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: into this one.

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, if you're an AUSC MMA fan, how do

1327
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: you not tune into this? I mean, I don't know

1328
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: exactly what kind of fight it's going to be, Like,

1329
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: Cambosis is probably going to be a little bit more

1330
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: of a bite down on the mouthpiece type than hany is,

1331
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: so that could make it interesting. But one of your

1332
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: countrymen just absolutely seized boxing by the back of the

1333
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: neck and asserted himself onto the world stage and then

1334
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: brought a big fight home. Yeah you gotta watch that,

1335
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: just out of respect for what he's doing, and to

1336
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 2: say nothing of the fact that it's relevant and high

1337
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: level and could be very exciting at times as well.

1338
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, you please, Australia, support your guy. I know

1339
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: we're going to on this side of the ocean.

1340
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Luke. I just want to close and say I don't

1341
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: like what I'm seeing out of Tayo Fema Lopez. I

1342
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the recent interviews he's done,

1343
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: but he's still talking about this as this conspiracy. I

1344
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: know he felt that he won the decision against Cambosis,

1345
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: even though it was close. I don't think he did.

1346
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, a lot of people did.

1347
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: And it's fine if you come out of a fight

1348
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: thinking you did better than everybody else thought you did.

1349
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: But he's still out here saying this was a conspiracy

1350
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: from Dezone. Remember who ended up winning the purse bit

1351
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: after Triller forfeited on it, and that can't be true

1352
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: because if de Zone somehow executed a conspiracy against him

1353
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: to lose the belt so that Hany could get a

1354
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: chance to fight for him, then this fight would be

1355
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: on Dizonne with Eddie Hearn promoting. It's not Hany left

1356
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: both his owne and Eddie Hearn to take this opportunity.

1357
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: So Luke to see somebody who I respect in love

1358
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: so much in tail Fema Lopez, and I know that

1359
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed chatting with him as well, and you obviously

1360
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: know his talent. Dude, Like, this is a bad look

1361
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: to keep going doubling and tripling down on this. Just

1362
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: take the l rebound and come back, come back stronger.

1363
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: Like and do what though, how if you were exactly

1364
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 2: advising the process, what would you advise as the next that.

1365
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you have to go out here and say, yes,

1366
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: he beat me, but it's obvious you could have certain

1367
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: built in excuses in this fight. He was he' legitimate

1368
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: whatever medical condition that was that he had to go

1369
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: to the hospital after and look at there was a

1370
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: lot of mental circumstances. Fight was delayed multiple times, there

1371
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: was a lot of bad pr with it just take

1372
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: the l and said, I had the I had a

1373
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: horrible night at the office. Maybe I still thought I won,

1374
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: But shout out to Cambosis. I'll give him his respect.

1375
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll see him down the road if he's still

1376
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: the champion. Enough with this, you know, I'm still unbeaten.

1377
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: And they robbed me and it was a it was

1378
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: a network that paid off a like, come on, enough

1379
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: with that bullshit.

1380
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that's again again. Can contrast that, Contrast that with

1381
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 2: what Gilbert Burns says about his losses. Contrast that, and that's.

1382
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: What It's crazy. And like we always we always pumped

1383
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: up Tail for being so mature at a young age,

1384
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: and he was in certain elements, but you're also seeing

1385
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: you know that he's not and and you know, I

1386
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: know he's had some you know, he talked about suicide,

1387
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: talk about a lot of things. And I want him

1388
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: to come back, can be better, and I think one

1389
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: forty is a better spot for him. But damn, you

1390
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: gotta just like Gilbert said about Connor McGregor, get off

1391
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: social media, get off the whiskey, go in the gym

1392
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: and start making it happen. And then when you come back,

1393
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: let your performance speak right, That's that's it. That's it. Look,

1394
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: that's it.

1395
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 2: That's it right there that it's the only thing that

1396
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: matters in this world.

1397
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: Look, the only other topic I want to mention quickly

1398
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: because we forgot and a lot of our fans want

1399
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: us to chat about it. What do you think about

1400
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: this fight UFC's putting together, Sean Strickland taking on a massive.

1401
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: Test Alex Perera. Dude, I they're fast tracking him. They're

1402
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: fast tracking him, which honestly is the right thing to do.

1403
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: I want to say something we were defending, Like people

1404
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: were like, oh, you should fast track Patty because he's popular,

1405
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: and I'm like, why would you put him on the

1406
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: Alex Perera track? Because Alex Perera is thirty four, as

1407
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't have any hardly any time left

1408
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: in to be able to physically fight the very best

1409
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: and has this dedicated, you know, amazing background and kickboxing. Like,

1410
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense to slow roll him. You just

1411
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: either he can do it or he can't. Not time

1412
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: to find out, Like Mike Chandler, Mike Chandler joined the

1413
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: UFC when he was thirty four, Like, time to find

1414
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: out what it's gonna because the clock is basically running out,

1415
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: and Mike knew that as well. So Patty is very

1416
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: much in a different spot. I thought like, slow roll him,

1417
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, what you're advocating for is

1418
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: patting of his record? Well sort of, I mean, I'll

1419
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: be honest, it's a little bit of that. It's not

1420
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: entirely untrue. But the point being is this, when you

1421
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: roll slow roll a guy, what you're doing is you're

1422
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: banking on one of two things happening. One, the slow

1423
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: roll pop process will work, and so by the time

1424
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: they get to the upper tier fighters there's no any no,

1425
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 2: there's no hiding available anymore. Or two they actually can't

1426
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: progress there and you figured it out. Either way, you

1427
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: get your answer. But it's not a forever promise of

1428
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: not fighting difficult guys. It's just a short window where

1429
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: you're not fighting the most difficult fight right away. Now

1430
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 2: to this point about Alex Perera and Sean Strickland, Yeah,

1431
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: they're fast tracking Pereira. They're fast tracking them, and that's

1432
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 2: what they need to do. I mean, Sean Strickland's a

1433
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: very interesting test right because he's pretty battle test that

1434
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 2: he's been in Man events, he's been in five round fights.

1435
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: He's most commonly a striker. He's got a really good

1436
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 2: takedown defense. He doesn't have the same body type in

1437
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: terms of frame or reach that a guy like Perera does,

1438
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: and he has a very different game too, a little

1439
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: bit more Well, we'll see what kind of game he employs.

1440
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: I have a feeling he's going to be a little

1441
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: bit more inside box heavy, boxing heavy, so we'll have

1442
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: to see how that goes. But yeah, dude, if you

1443
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: beat if you're Pereira and you beat a guy like Strickland,

1444
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: which is I'm going to say, not an easy fight,

1445
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 2: but relative to say Jack Hermannson, a more winnable fight,

1446
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: right because Hermanson is not the striker that Sean Strickland is.

1447
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: But he's definitely a much better grappler who I think, well, all,

1448
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: he's a much more attentive grappler because obviously Sean Strickland

1449
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: can defend takedowns. But what I mean to say is

1450
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 2: that kind of game against Alex Perera could prove a

1451
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: little bit more troubling. But you can't say if you

1452
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: beat Sean Strickland, we see that it's not a quality win,

1453
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: it's a very quality win. It's a super quality win.

1454
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: So they're fast tracking him. But I like it. I

1455
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: don't mind it at all.

1456
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: They're targeting it for July thirtieth. That'll be UFC two

1457
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: seventy seven, two pay per views in the same month.

1458
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: Here to start and close for the UFC and Luke.

1459
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: The best fight odds early line is minus one seventy

1460
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: five for Pereira or Padata Howe Pereda, however you want

1461
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: to say it, Luke, plus one fifty Strickland as the underdog. Look,

1462
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this because originally we had

1463
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: heard that maybe we're gonna get out of Sonya Cannoneer

1464
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: International Fight Week. Then, uh, we were talking to our

1465
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: colleague CBS Sports as Brandon watch. He's like, no, I'm

1466
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: thinking that could be end of July, Luke, this might be.

1467
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: If we're gonna put Strickland Pereira on the same on

1468
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: that card, it would make sense that out of Sonya

1469
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: Cannoneer was the main event, not just for the fact

1470
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: that you could fill in someone last minute if it

1471
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: falls apart, but that you may be showcasing the winner

1472
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: of that fight as the next story soon. Out of

1473
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: Sonya opponent.

1474
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, UFC doesn't always like to have hardly at

1475
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: all ever like to have the you know, the winner

1476
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: of a fight face off against someone else in the

1477
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: cage after the whole you know, GSP, I'm not ompressed

1478
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: with your performance, and then whatever else the other issues they.

1479
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: Have, George, George, nice George.

1480
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, But putting them on the same call, to your point,

1481
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: it would be you know, it sends a similar kind

1482
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: of message about who's next and who's up and who's down.

1483
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: So it'll just be weird though if Cannonear wins and

1484
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: then Perira wins and it's like Pereira versus Cannonear for

1485
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: the Middleway title, you kind of miss out on that

1486
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: other opportunity. But that's the other point too, b see,

1487
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: is you know, listen, whether it's a tournament like I

1488
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Speaker 2: remember when Strike Force to the Headway Grand Prix and

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01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 2: they kind of put Fador and Overeim a little bit

1490
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: far apart so that they would meet further down in

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: the tournament, and then you're like, dude, just make the

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: fucking fight, because you don't know if they're gonna get

1493
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: to that point sure enough through injury and when everything

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01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: else they weren't able to losses. They weren't able to

1495
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: make that fight, and you were like, do you lost

1496
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,839
Speaker 2: out on the fight at the time that everyone wanted.

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: So while they're not just going ahead and just giving

1498
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: Pereira a title shot, giving him Sean Strickland is something

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01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: kind of in that vein, and so for those reasons,

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 2: I think it's actually the right call.

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: All right, those are our five topics before we transition

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: into our debut. Here of a DM from Donk's Video edition.

1503
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: Forgot to say earlier in regards to us winning the

1504
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: best Sports podcast overall from the Sports Podcast Award Group,

1505
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: I can't even look again. How do you even frame this? Right? Today?

1506
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: One spot in London, one spot in Liverpool. They're putting

1507
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: your boys b CNLT and MK on a billboard in

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: two major locations. So here's the information for today, and

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: I believe we're gonna put this out on social media

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: as well. Today in London at the M four on

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01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: the Chiswick Roundabout, so it's a highway with a video billboard.

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: We're going to be up there between twelve noon which

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01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: is now in one pm, and also later between.

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: The twelve twelve noon our time.

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01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: No twelve noon their time.

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01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't mean that's where we're We're well past that.

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01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, then then I could be watching this who

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: knows here, Luke, and then between fourteen hundred dollars and

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred hours. The other location is in Liverpool at

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: the m six to two meter near the broad Green

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: train station. We'll be up there between fourteen and fifteen

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01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, nineteen and twenty hundred hours, and then also

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01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: between twenty one and twenty two. Luke. There's a lot

1524
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: of math involved in trying to figure that out. But

1525
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: if our donks and we know we got some voracious

1526
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: ones up there in the UK, aggressive and a shit

1527
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: if you guys can take a picture of it, if

1528
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: you guys can do something for us, I don't know,

1529
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: Maybe we send them merch, maybe something, Luke. But your

1530
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: boys are going big in the UK, and I'm telling you, Luke,

1531
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: when we do our live show in front of five

1532
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: thousand fans, it's gonna it's gonna be a shit show.

1533
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. We'll give the people who take

1534
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: pictures in front of the Billboard the same thing we

1535
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: did for all those five star reviews that we promised

1536
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: fifty dollars too that we never did.

1537
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: Oh boy, can we do that please? All right, Luke,

1538
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: I didn't read the questions. I didn't watch the videos.

1539
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: Neither did you.

1540
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: But we put a call to action single one.

1541
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got some time to fill. We normally do

1542
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: dms from donks on Monday, but we said, hey, why

1543
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: don't you dm us a video question? We'll go low

1544
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: Brendan shob with you, right, best brains.

1545
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's be clear, we're flatly stealing the idea of this,

1546
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: like the Yeah, you know, I.

1547
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: Hope we're stealing it from that other podcast claims you

1548
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: took that joke from them too. I'd love to steal

1549
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: more from them too.

1550
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: Right, Luke. Because I use the word V you know, Oh,

1551
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: I've never seen someone use the word V other than me.

1552
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's because you don't get out very much.

1553
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, So here we go. It's video dms

1554
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: from donks are. I don't know if we have an

1555
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: intro or anything like that, but there you go. Hehaw,

1556
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, we've got mail. This first one is

1557
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: from a bloke named Colin. Let's see what he's got.

1558
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 15: What's up guys, Colin here, So I have two questions

1559
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 15: for you, which I assume shouldn't be a problem considering

1560
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 15: this episode's probably mostly just dead air with there being

1561
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 15: no fights on.

1562
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 6: My first one.

1563
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 15: Is I wanted to know what you guys's top three

1564
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 15: to five favorite comedy films are. And in the second one,

1565
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 15: I'm actually seeing my very first UFC event live when

1566
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 15: I'm seeing UFC two seventy three. So I wanted to

1567
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 15: know if you guys had any recommendations for things to

1568
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 15: do in Jacksonville, Florida, other than get killed by meth

1569
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 15: or make friends with generous sex Capital Stormers.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys.

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01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: First of all, Colin, please don't stream and drive. Okay,

1572
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: thank you very much. But number one, Yeah, Luke, let's

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01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: let's hit the second one. First, I haven't spent much

1574
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: time in Jacksonville. I've driven through. I've driven to Florida

1575
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: a million times. My grandparents used to live in Daytona Beach.

1576
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: My parents live there now, so I've made that drive

1577
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: a ton Jacksonville, massive city, very pretty still Florida. Though, Luke,

1578
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: he wants to know what he should do there. I

1579
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know, Luke, go to.

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01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'll just use my Florida experience more generally to

1581
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: then say what you should do. Well, here's what I've

1582
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: seen what Floridians like. They love and not just COVID

1583
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: but any kind of sexually transit. They love disease down there.

1584
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: So you can go get a communicable disease. That's a

1585
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: big thing you can get. The other thing you can

1586
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: do is Floridians i've noticed love to get into American

1587
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: muscle cars and then speed out onto long highways inadvisably

1588
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: between red lights, and then drag race BC. Could he

1589
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,879
Speaker 2: go drag racing in his American muscle car in Jacksonville?

1590
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: Probably it's very probable, dude. Jacksonville is as it's actually

1591
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 1: land wise, it's a massive city and it is pretty.

1592
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: But uh, I haven't spent a lot of time. You

1593
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: can go to Daily's place that the cons own that right,

1594
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 1: Tony kaan of aw and shot jaguar.

1595
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 8: Oh.

1596
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: You could also allegedly assault a UFC fighter and then

1597
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: be put on stage by the governor of the state.

1598
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: So that's the thing you could do.

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01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. Luke the spirit of it and

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: shout out to Colin. Hopefully you'll enjoy yourself at this

1601
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: incredible UFC pay per view. Uh, you know Dana loves

1602
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: him from Florida. Where Dude, if you're tauchy Palace right now,

1603
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: you're like, bro, I think you owe something right.

1604
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: Here right now, going to palace. Word.

1605
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be going there a lot. We didn't go,

1606
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: and we weren't going back there at all. Luke is

1607
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: he wants to know our top three to five comedy films,

1608
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: So I'll go first here. I think the funniest movie

1609
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: of all time is Half Bade with Dave Chappelle Jim Brewer.

1610
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: It is the most referenced by me. Probably only the

1611
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: most referenced by me is my number two comedy flick,

1612
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: which is Tommy Boy. It's the most rewatchable movie at

1613
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: all of all time. David Spake, Chris Farley, It's got

1614
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 1: the best one liners. But Luke half Baked, dude, I

1615
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: mean I cried in the theater. I mean I was

1616
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: half baked. I was full baked watching it. But I

1617
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: mean I mean Luke like howling crying. I went back

1618
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: to the theater like three four times to see that,

1619
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: and I never do that. I bought the vhs and

1620
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: probably watched it every single day for like two years. Luke,

1621
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 1: that's up there. Obviously you got a classic like Caddy Shack.

1622
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't really have modern one. Oh dude, it got overplayed.

1623
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: But tell me the first time you saw the first

1624
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 1: Austin Powers, you weren't pissing your pants.

1625
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: No, I was not pissing my pants.

1626
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: Oh see, we can't hang out. We're not alike.

1627
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 2: Well, we can't hang out. I mean. My choice would

1628
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: be for the one that I've gotten the most amount

1629
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: of mile of John over the years is Dumb and Dumber.

1630
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: Dumb and Dumber to me, has just been an exquisite

1631
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: work of art, the likes of which has seldom and reproduced.

1632
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: So I'll say Dumb and Dumber is probably my number one.

1633
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: After that, it's a little bit difficult, and there's a

1634
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: bunch of good choices.

1635
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 16: BC.

1636
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't have a you know, to stay in the

1637
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: Jim Carrey thing. The first Ascentauria was pretty good too.

1638
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: Do you like the Fairly Brothers movies? Because I gotta

1639
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: say Kingpin might be the most underrated of all time.

1640
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: So underrated looks so freaking underrated. Love that one I mentioned?

1641
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: Can you can you get sick, drinking piss, even if

1642
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: it's your own.

1643
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 1: I mentioned Booty Call being a sleeper from the nineties.

1644
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: I love that one.

1645
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1646
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't have like a lot of modern comedy classics though, Luke.

1647
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: You know, where are you on the Hangover? And like that.

1648
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like, that's the one that

1649
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: pointed or old school wedding credit like those are good,

1650
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: but they're not really my you know, my window, of

1651
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: course is largely the the early nineties SNL cast breaking

1652
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: out right like like Mike Myers is uh uh so

1653
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: I married an axe murderer, Luke. It's not laugh out loud,

1654
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: but it's just so damn like like smart and crafty,

1655
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: you know new Yeah, hid hid down? Yeah, yeah, definitely okay,

1656
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: Billy Madison, dude. And it doesn't hold up well. No,

1657
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: first of all, doesn't blow, so you can back the

1658
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: hell off. It doesn't hold up well now, But dude,

1659
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: I saw that so many times in the theater in

1660
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 1: high school and that was everything to me.

1661
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore was That says a lot about where you

1662
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: ended up beautiful following high school.

1663
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: Happy Gilmour was great, dude. You know what mister Dean's

1664
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: is really good. No one wants to talk about that though.

1665
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: From the Sandler collection, Big Daddy.

1666
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: Isn't Echo also CB four, CB four from Back in

1667
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: the Day, one of my favorite.

1668
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good one. We're all ninety centric

1669
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: obviously here, Luke, I'm probably missing a modern comedy classic.

1670
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: But I don't think i've seen modern comed.

1671
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: Big Daddy's okay, Big Daddy's okay. I like each can

1672
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 2: they hear you?

1673
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: They can hear you, right, they can hear me? Man Ah, yeah, dude,

1674
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: Big Daddy's good. But it's more of like that's the

1675
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Sandler movie you can show your girlfriend because they're not

1676
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at Billy.

1677
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 12: Medicine, right, It's not like laugh out loud funny the

1678
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 12: whole time. It's just a classic movie.

1679
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. But it's Look,

1680
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you can get something where you're

1681
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: you're crying watching it, like you're laughing out loud the

1682
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: entire time. I'm telling you, the first Austin Powers was that, Luke.

1683
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: I know it got way lame and got played out,

1684
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: but maybe we're just different people. Look, and that's fine, okay,

1685
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: all right, But I'm sure, what do we Corey, you're

1686
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: younger than us. What are we missing? That's a modern

1687
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: comedy classic.

1688
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 12: I don't know, man, we're just talking about it in here.

1689
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 12: I don't have like, like, yeah, the hangover, like Mikey's

1690
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 12: saying the hangover that comes to mind. You said wedding crashers.

1691
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 2: Oh, step brothers, step Brothers is pretty good.

1692
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 12: Stepbrother's hilarious the first time. I mean, it's still hilarious.

1693
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 12: Luke was saying the other guys, which I haven't seen,

1694
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 12: but I've heard, that's very funny.

1695
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: Wait, no, no, you gotta you gotta tell the audience that's

1696
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: really in slash Long Island, Luke, not.

1697
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 12: Me Australian slash Long Island.

1698
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: Luca.

1699
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, please.

1700
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: Like the other guys.

1701
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, l A l Long Island, Luke. Don't don't confuse

1702
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: him with the real lt there. And you know, Luke,

1703
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: something that was awesome the movie night. There's something about

1704
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: Mary amazing in the theater. Now I cringe look it,

1705
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: but I don't want to see a movie again. It

1706
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: was it was, you know what I mean, it.

1707
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 2: Was just alright, we got we have a few of these.

1708
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: Let's move alongsh God sorry, Luke. I know you've got

1709
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 1: many things to do. Jobs awards. This one's from Evan.

1710
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: Let's see what we got here.

1711
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: Hello, Luke and BC. Huge fan of the show.

1712
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,480
Speaker 5: I'm a donk from Missouri, but I work in Oklahoma.

1713
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: It's terrible and no, I didn't storm the Capitol on.

1714
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: January sixth, it is.

1715
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: My question is, if you had to pick one lightweight

1716
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: at any point in history to beat Kabebe, who would

1717
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: it be?

1718
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 6: And why?

1719
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: Thank you? There's only one answer to that question. There's

1720
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 2: only one answer to that question, the only person from

1721
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 2: like a previous you know, I guess you could say, yeah,

1722
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: very the BJ who fought Diego Sanchez. That dude, that

1723
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 2: dude when he was with the Marinovitch brothers. He was

1724
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: in his prime. He was at the max of his

1725
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: physical capability. And even then, I don't know if that

1726
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: guy beats him. Probably not. But that's that's the only

1727
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 2: answer I could even remotely think of.

1728
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: Right, I'll get to that in a second. You have

1729
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: an aggressive beard, that guy, Evan Redbeard. There, that's that's

1730
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: reckless beard.

1731
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: No, no, see that's a beard where you're on the run

1732
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: from the law. Beard. I'm just I'm on the run

1733
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: from scissors. He's on the run from the popo.

1734
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: All right, Look, it's tough because you know, certainly there's

1735
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 1: an argument to make of Habibi even being the greatest

1736
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: fighter of all time. Although you would have, in hindsight

1737
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: liked to have seen him fight everyone in his era.

1738
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: It just didn't work out that way. But yeah, Prime

1739
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,919
Speaker 1: BJ is gonna be a problem with the takedown defense.

1740
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: I think BJ's striking still would hold up today. Is

1741
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: there someone luke, because you know we tried to hipster argument. Well, hey,

1742
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: Charles O Lavera's got some holes, but he goes for

1743
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: the finish so aggressively. What would that have looked like

1744
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: if it happened in Habib's last fight? You know, what

1745
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: do you say about Islam Mahachev?

1746
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: Oh you mean like Islam being the best one to

1747
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: potentially defeat Habib?

1748
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's spider man meme, right, and he might

1749
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: have striking.

1750
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: Sort of The problem is I think Habib is a

1751
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: little bit better, a little bit meaner. I don't think

1752
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 2: Islam's quite as mean of a punisher as Habib is.

1753
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 2: And the other part is like Habib probably, I mean,

1754
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure they know each other's game. But I bet

1755
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Habib knows the inside and outside of Islam's game and

1756
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: could neutralize it. So for that reason, I have a

1757
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 2: hard time picking him. But I know what you're saying, Like,

1758
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: in that sense, maybe you know he's the closest okay, okay,

1759
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: who are.

1760
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: We missing in that era between BJ and Habib holding

1761
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: the belt?

1762
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: There was a time when a lot of people thought

1763
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: Takenori Gomi was the best lightweight in the world after

1764
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 2: beating Jen's Pulver, like and he fucking punished Jens Bulver.

1765
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: There was a time where he was given that nod. Also,

1766
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: you know, back when he was competing as low as

1767
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: like one sixty or so, like Elite XC times, Nick

1768
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 2: Diaz kind of flirted with that a little bit. Now,

1769
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he's the guy to beat, you know,

1770
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 2: to beat, But.

1771
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: But and we and I think we've learned that prime

1772
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson wasn't that guy what we thought I thought

1773
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: he was. I thought he was for a while.

1774
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: Tony Ferguson is another one that sort of in the

1775
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: end of that list. But dude, just if you didn't

1776
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: live through BJ Penn's prime, I know that like the

1777
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: sadness tour he's been on since then has been a

1778
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: little bit hard to understand and like square with the reality.

1779
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: But I can't explain to you that is the first

1780
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 2: time as the old that was the first time watching

1781
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: a guy where I was like, he's the best I've

1782
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 2: ever seen.

1783
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: And you know, Luke, I've mismanaged my fluid intake. Give

1784
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: me like third, give me like forty five seconds here.

1785
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: This never happened. Mid show, Luke, Okay, can you tell

1786
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: the people something? Just can you just hold the court?

1787
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you what it was. As you

1788
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 2: have to go, Pee says, we've taken too long on

1789
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: the showfuckers, hurry up. But if you want to know

1790
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: what would made Bj penn a special combination was one

1791
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: he was, you know, a natural morn fighter. He was

1792
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,440
Speaker 2: a very good athlete. When he was training with the Marinovich's,

1793
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 2: they had unusual systems and I don't know how any

1794
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: of them scientifically have held up, but they whatever they

1795
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: were doing, that put Bj in the best physical space.

1796
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: Because this guy when he was headed towards the GSP rematch,

1797
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: and I'm not kidding or was it No, it was

1798
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: the Matt Hughes rematch. Excuse me, the Matt Hughes rematch.

1799
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: Remember he had dusted him off the first time. He goes, oh,

1800
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to train for the second one just by surfing.

1801
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 2: I'm not doing a bit. All he did was surf

1802
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: for that fight, barely trained at all, nearly one but didn't.

1803
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: So you know, when he was with the Marinovitches, he

1804
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: was on a regimented program. He was eating right, he

1805
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 2: was training right, He had the He was the first

1806
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: guy who was basically by his peers for a long while,

1807
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: you could not take him down. Fitch eventually did it,

1808
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: but I was at one seventy, and he punched like

1809
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: a fucking hammer. He had a great job who was

1810
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: training with Freddy Roach with his jab, and for a

1811
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: while in his career he would even get hit with

1812
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: big shots and wouldn't get marked up. So run through

1813
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: the list. Here he was in shape, natural born fighter,

1814
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: great jab, good striking, overall, unbelievable takedown defence, world champion,

1815
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: black belt jiu jitsu, and you know, just had all

1816
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: everything was lined up in time. I'll say this. You

1817
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 2: know where does he rank all time among lightweights? You know,

1818
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: separate debate but at the time when he fought Diego Sanchez,

1819
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: there was not a doubt and still remains zero dobt

1820
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: in my mind. There was not another one fifty five

1821
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: or at that time, at that moment in time, who

1822
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 2: even came close, not one, not even remotely close. That

1823
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 2: dude at that moment was unbeatable in that weight class.

1824
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: And there are not many people at any weight class

1825
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 2: at any time of their life where you look at

1826
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: them and you're like, dad, there's no one who can

1827
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: beat him in this weight class. That's how That's how

1828
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: good BJ was at that time. He was unstoppable by

1829
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: any other lightweight. But all that fell apart is BC back.

1830
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry for that, Luke. You know sometimes that happens.

1831
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 1: You've had explosive diarrhea of the second our show.

1832
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: As let's move this along, dud, let's move us along.

1833
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, look again, I'm really sorry to upset you, but

1834
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: let's go to the next.

1835
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: If you have to take bathroom breaks, we're taking too long.

1836
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: Come on.

1837
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: This one's from Zelko Luke.

1838
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, is he here? Big fan of the show?

1839
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 8: I have a question for bc BC. What's the closest

1840
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 8: you've ever gotten to being in a fistfight at pickup basketball.

1841
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 8: Thank you, and Luke, don't you dare make fun of

1842
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 8: my appearance in any way, shape or form.

1843
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1844
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Old Zelko's like, Luke, I'll kill you.

1845
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: Okay, throw that video back up. You don't have to

1846
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: give us audio. I just want to show or just

1847
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 2: take a screen shot real quick and throw it back.

1848
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: I want to make a point here real quick. I

1849
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: won't make fun of his appearance. I won't. Hey, could

1850
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 2: you put more headroom above your head when you shoot

1851
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: a video?

1852
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 8: Guy?

1853
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: Can we see more of your wall? For no particular reason.

1854
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: Boy, this guy's said he's great Zelk. So, unfortunately, I

1855
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: have many stories of getting really close to getting in

1856
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: fits fights on the basketball court because the problem is, Luke,

1857
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: and I'm an intense competitor. The problem is that I

1858
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: subscribe to the theory that what happens between the lines

1859
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: stays between the lines. And not everybody always agrees with

1860
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: that theory. But I'd say the closest and and here's

1861
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: why I get close to it, Okay, Luke, because I

1862
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,959
Speaker 1: don't let shit go in the midst of competition and conflict.

1863
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: But I do it because I've long when I got

1864
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: heavy into basketball, think like high school age, like I

1865
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: was behind. I started late. So I was the Rodman guy,

1866
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the rebounder, of the pick setter. I'm just trying to

1867
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: hang on the court with guys that are better than me.

1868
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: So Luke, I found a cheat code to do that.

1869
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: But it's a dick move. It's mental warfare. It's you know,

1870
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: think think of what Rob what Rodman was doing on

1871
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: the bulls against like Carl Malone and the in Lonzo Morning,

1872
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 1: just getting in their head, making them want to throw,

1873
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, punches at him. I was that guy, unfortunately,

1874
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: and Luke sometimes that guy still research and two years

1875
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: ago in the adult league, I'm in the you know,

1876
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: forty and thirty five and over whatever. It is a

1877
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: guy I love and I still play with today. You know, Luke,

1878
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: that code, that creed of respecting the call. You've played

1879
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: pickup all right, of course?

1880
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played intramural teams all through college.

1881
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: Dude. We always respect the call even if you don't agree. Look,

1882
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: you can respect the call and still clown a guy

1883
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: for a bad foul call.

1884
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 16: Right.

1885
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: You could be like, look, I'm going to give you

1886
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 1: that call, but just know you bailed yourself out and

1887
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 1: I blocked that clean. Well, there was an out of

1888
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: bounds play. It went off the guy. I saw it. It

1889
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: went off his shirt as you and the dude's just like, no,

1890
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: it didn't go off me. And the whole game just

1891
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: went to the other side of the floor as if

1892
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: I didn't just call it out of bounds, and I'm like, no,

1893
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: you gotta respect this call, and the guy's like no, So, Luke,

1894
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: I kind of wouldn't let it go, even might have

1895
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: stopped the next play and was just chirping, why, Luke.

1896
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: Was I offended that I wasn't being respected? Yes? But

1897
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 1: was I trying to plant mental seeds to try to

1898
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: get a guy who's better than me off of his game?

1899
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: One thousand percent? It ended with him yelling in my

1900
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: face and saying, if your son wasn't here and my

1901
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: son was there watching, He's like, I'd punch you right

1902
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: in the face right now.

1903
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: What did that guy do for a living? What does

1904
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: he do?

1905
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Uh, he's a he's a judge in court. I love

1906
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: that guy, by the way. I'm just play with the

1907
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: other night and he would have kicked my ass, like

1908
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But they like, like, dude,

1909
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like when I go against bigger, stronger guys,

1910
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: they expect that you're just gonna yield to them physically,

1911
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: But I go after them physically and I'll flop. I'll

1912
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: flop to try to get a mental edge. So sometimes

1913
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: people come at me, Luke, it's a character flaw. But

1914
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: that's my war, that's my battleground. Okay, you don't see

1915
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: me slapping people in running right, I'm I'm non violent.

1916
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: But between those lines, Luke, I'll take out your soul.

1917
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: I'll like, you know what I was. You know what

1918
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I always say when it's game point, I always say, guys,

1919
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: I say, don't be afraid to test friendships because it's

1920
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: in the it's between the lines, dude, right when we're

1921
01:28:59,479 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: between the.

1922
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: Love of Jesus, we get it. You go to the

1923
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 2: next point.

1924
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do a BC live chat after the

1925
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: show and and well, you know, maybe that'll make you happy. Look,

1926
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: I mean, we can get divorced right out of our

1927
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: mountaintop right here.

1928
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: We don't need to get divorced. We just need to

1929
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: move along. That's it.

1930
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: I'm hoping. This is by my boy nutge Enich I'm

1931
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: hoping this is my guy from North Carolina. Let's throw it.

1932
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: If he has long hair, it's him, Let's see it.

1933
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 14: Hello. Look and Brian when is twenty years old a

1934
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 14: big fan of the show. To give you guys some

1935
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 14: love and say, let you know that you do have

1936
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 14: at least one young member of your audience who enjoys

1937
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 14: the content you guys put out. My question is a

1938
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 14: bit of a two part. The first one is that

1939
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 14: I find it interesting that a lot of young people

1940
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 14: my age still aren't huge fans of mixed Martial Arts

1941
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 14: or the UFC. I was wondering we your thoughts on

1942
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 14: why you might think that is. And the second one is,

1943
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 14: if you could give out one fight for someone to

1944
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 14: watch that would make them a UFC fan, what fight

1945
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 14: would you choose? I know that's really broad, but I'm

1946
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 14: trying to guess some more of my friends to watch MMA,

1947
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 14: so I could really appreciate the help on that. Thank

1948
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 14: you so much, appreciate it.

1949
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: Hey shout out to you Knock, though that wasn't my boy,

1950
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: you knock from North Carolina. But that's that's a new one. Luke.

1951
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: Why aren't there more younger UFC fans? Right now.

1952
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 2: Well, one thing that I talked about actually yesterday's chat

1953
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: that I had to have a little bit of a

1954
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: a awakening about was that I got you know, I

1955
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: was never against the YouTube boxing thing, as like some

1956
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 2: people came out are like, oh, this is bad for boxing,

1957
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's not bad, but I don't

1958
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 2: think it's that good either. It's sort of like a

1959
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: it'll be good for the events that they're on and

1960
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: then that's it. There'll be no carryover. Turns out, there's

1961
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: actually been a fair amount of carryover. Now it's not

1962
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: clear exactly how far the carryover goes, but broadly speaking,

1963
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: boxing has added more younger fans than MMA in the

1964
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: last five years by a considerable margin, according to some

1965
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: estimates and some studies that have done. John Nash has

1966
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: been aggressively sharing them and so it's worth reflecting on

1967
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 2: what that has meant. And like you have to also

1968
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 2: ask like why would the young people go into boxing? Well,

1969
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 2: it is a little bit easier to tran in terms

1970
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: of the the single focus of it, and it's not

1971
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 2: so hard on the body relative to mm A. But

1972
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 2: also that you know, you can control your own destiny.

1973
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: It's very very hard to do that. With mm A.

1974
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:15,879
Speaker 2: It's very hard to have any kind of UH control

1975
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: over your own affairs. And so I just think they

1976
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 2: like that it's a little bit more open spaced in

1977
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 2: that way. But the thing I would say is, I

1978
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 2: used to be that guy who's like, oh, I'm gonna

1979
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: get my friends to watch mm A, and then I

1980
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 2: eventually realized that, like, I don't care if they like MMA.

1981
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: It did. I didn't need that that experience from them.

1982
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: Now everyone will be different, BC, But I I would

1983
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 2: caution people like, at some point, you know, make an effort, try,

1984
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: but if it doesn't take, that's okay, dude, you don't

1985
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: your Your fandom is your fandom. It's nice to share

1986
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: it with people. But as you know, BC, the only

1987
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: thing I share in my life is UH awards awards. Yes,

1988
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: pain is pain really is the only thing I have

1989
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 2: to share. So there you go.

1990
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: You offer me your vape penal lot and I turn

1991
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: you down. But that's very.

1992
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Nice of you, that's true.

1993
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: Look, what fight would you tell this from? Also from Enoch?

1994
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: What fight would you tell someone to watch to get

1995
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: into m m A? Luke? What do you think about

1996
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: this choice? John Jones Alexander Gustafson won because high skill,

1997
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: back and forth action title at stake the best fighter

1998
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 1: of all time? What do you think about that?

1999
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 2: I think those are good choices. I would even go

2000
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: with maybe the Edgar Maynard trilogy a little bit, you know,

2001
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 2: because how different it kind of looks each time, but

2002
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: how similar it kind of looks each time, and how

2003
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 2: the the fight outcome kind of changed over time with

2004
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: with the you know, Frankie getting better and whatnot. That's

2005
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: a good one to go with. You know. Any vicious

2006
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 2: knockout is great too. I kind of got into it

2007
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 2: in a different way. I got into it when it

2008
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 2: was like, hey, have you seen what this Brazilian guy

2009
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: is doing to all of these other people? And I

2010
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 2: was like huh. And then you know you want you

2011
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: go to Blockbuster and your rent it and you're like,

2012
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 2: so that is such a new that is such an

2013
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: old experienced relative to how new MMA has become. So

2014
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't really know how to get people through the

2015
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 2: train that I got in on, but that was definitely

2016
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: what it did for me.

2017
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: If they are a fan of violence already, I'd give

2018
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 1: him Robbie La Larroy MacDonald, you're damn right, I would. Okay,

2019
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: that's what I'd do.

2020
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: These are vicious fights, man, those are really.

2021
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's what the sport is. It's vicious as shit.

2022
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mitch.

2023
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 16: Let's see what he has to say, Mitch, Tom and

2024
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 16: Frank Campbell more combat Day one fan Here, My question is, Louke,

2025
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 16: can you own block man Twitter?

2026
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: Is that seem punk Luke? That looks a little like

2027
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: Phil Brooks?

2028
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, slightly poor man's version. H Yes, I'll

2029
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 2: unblock him. The producers just send me his name and

2030
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 2: I'll unblock him to there.

2031
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: All right, Mitch, it's a victory score one for the

2032
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: good guys. This has got to be a segment. It's

2033
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 1: got to become a segment next up in the future.

2034
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 2: In the future, God won't be so magnanimous. I want

2035
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of an explanation about what you what

2036
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,480
Speaker 2: you did, that you understand your crimes.

2037
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's here, let's hear from Mandy.

2038
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 2: God bless this American?

2039
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Is this legal?

2040
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: Boys? Oh my lord.

2041
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 5: Horizon, Let's talk about important things. Music. Lorna Shores Into

2042
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 5: the Hell Fire is unequivocally the upper bound limits of

2043
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 5: rock and death metal music of twenty twenty one. The

2044
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 5: way it builds to that final gut wrenching breakdown at

2045
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 5: the end is just.

2046
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: Epic.

2047
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 5: Tell me why I'm dead wrong? And Luke, finally a

2048
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 5: final piece of life advice to share with you?

2049
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: That is that a joke that the last piece of

2050
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 2: advice went silent?

2051
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: Oh that's good, Luke, that's good ship right there.

2052
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 2: That's technical difficulties saying yeah, yeah, I gotta say uh yeah, no,

2053
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 2: never mind, that's fine. Yes, it's fine, it's fine. It's

2054
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: a very good joke.

2055
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 6: B C.

2056
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 2: I've never heard of Lorna Shore, and I'm sure that

2057
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: this man is so high that he might be inventing

2058
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:27,879
Speaker 2: a band that doesn't even exist.

2059
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 1: Look, would you believe me if I told you this

2060
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: guy drives a school bus for a living. I love

2061
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,719
Speaker 1: that type of irony, like it's gotta be true.

2062
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: Right, No, you know what all of the school bus

2063
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 2: drivers I've ever had, You want to talk about people

2064
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: that would fail every moral test on earth. Every time

2065
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 2: I saw a kid get jumped right off the bus,

2066
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 2: you know what the bus drivers did?

2067
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 6: La la la la.

2068
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 2: I don't see anything. I don't see anything. I'm just

2069
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: gonna keep going. You know indeed.

2070
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, two more, We don't want to upset you.

2071
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: Here's and thank you Andy for that. You were you

2072
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: You live in extraordinary life. Here's Gil.

2073
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 17: Hey, what's up Luke and Brian. This is Gil from

2074
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 17: New York City, longtime listener. My question is for Luke,

2075
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 17: it has been well established your love for bbls. Just

2076
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 17: wondering why you're in college you ever attended mixers with

2077
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 17: Latin sororities and if so, was that where your love

2078
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 17: for bbl started or was it due to Elis Chakhon?

2079
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 6: Let me know.

2080
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Uh, it's a great question. No, I have to tell

2081
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 2: you that I think it was always something that what

2082
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:42,799
Speaker 2: I always but you know, definitely definitely through high school

2083
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: and then the early part of college. I thought what

2084
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 2: I really wanted were Southern bells. That's what I thought

2085
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: I wanted, and then I began to date a few

2086
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 2: of them, and I was like, oh, no, this ain't

2087
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: what I want at all. No, it's funny he's from

2088
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 2: New York City because it was actually after college I

2089
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: moved to New York City and it was like, you know,

2090
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: it was a complete baptism, a change of scenery from Williamsburg,

2091
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: Virginia to Manhattan, New York, where I was like, oh oh,

2092
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 2: I've been missing out all this time. And then you

2093
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 2: begin to go down to that process and that was

2094
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 2: a much more rewarding and enjoyable one than.

2095
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: Do you believe you're doing the whole? Like, can I

2096
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: be candid with you upper bottom limits analysis of.

2097
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: He's asking where it came from? All the sororities at

2098
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 2: William and Mary were just full of white people. I

2099
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 2: mean that's all it is, right, you know. So no,

2100
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: there was no there was no there was no cross

2101
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 2: pollination that way it was. It wasn't until after college

2102
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 2: where I was like, you know, uh wooga that that

2103
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 2: sort of thing.

2104
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: Our guy Gill doesn't look like a player, Luke, but

2105
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I guarantee he crushes a lot definitely.

2106
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 2: And look he does. Have you seen did you see

2107
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 2: how well manicured his beard was? My man is super slex.

2108
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 2: I guarantee it respect on that.

2109
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Do you have a hierarchy of nations in the BBL game, Luke?

2110
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 2: A little bit? Actually? Yes?

2111
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Would you share that or no?

2112
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll share that. I will put I'm gonna put

2113
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 2: as like a top like a you know, your mount Rushmore.

2114
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:20,799
Speaker 2: I'll put Columbia, Venezuela, don't.

2115
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Sleep on Puerto Rico, don't sleep on Puerto Rico.

2116
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:27,480
Speaker 2: Por Puerto Rico's in there as well, and probably Mexico

2117
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: i'd put as your top four. No cam There, No Cuba,

2118
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about. But the first the first

2119
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 2: lat girl ever did was Cuban. But I don't know

2120
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 2: enough about. I just don't have enough exposure to them,

2121
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know anything about them that

2122
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 2: really that well. But in my experience all I can have,

2123
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: I'd put Tier two. See Brazil might be Tier one

2124
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 2: as well. I may have to like put Brazil in there,

2125
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 2: But in terms of Spanish speaking countries, then after that,

2126
01:38:53,640 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: I'd put like Argentina, Costa Rica like that, you know,

2127
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 2: somewhere somewhere in that range. I don't know about Ecuador

2128
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 2: all or Bolivia.

2129
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:13,480
Speaker 1: I just prefer like Russia, Ireland, Poland.

2130
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 2: No, No, you know what you like, You're like, You're

2131
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 2: like South Dakota, Mississippi.

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01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Look, we all have our things, Luke, Okay, what more

2133
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: for you? This is Jason, Let's do it.

2134
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 18: What's going on LTNBC with my box of dog Lennox Lewis.

2135
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 18: He's sitting here waiting for his bone like a good boy,

2136
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 18: right in front of him. I had a quick question

2137
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 18: about the UFC Hall of Fame. You guys talk about

2138
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 18: it all the time, and I just want to know,

2139
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 18: what are your hardline credentials? What does a fighter have

2140
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 18: to do A, B, C and D to get into

2141
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 18: the UFC Hall of Fame? Does the accumulation stats like

2142
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 18: most knockouts and most wins, how many guys you fought

2143
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 18: on your resume? Does that stuff really matter or is

2144
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 18: it just about winning championships and getting titled defenses? But

2145
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 18: on my question is what he had hardline credentials to

2146
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 18: be in the UFC Hall of Fame and day every day.

2147
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: My favorite part is the dog was about to lick

2148
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: his balls and ask that question.

2149
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Speaker 1: First of all, shout out to Jason's dog, Lennox Lewis

2150
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: wearing that shirt. He looks like a like a badass.

2151
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: I love that dog. That dog was the real MVP

2152
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 2: of that.

2153
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so he didn't specify the actual UFC Hall of

2154
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 1: Fame or what we would hope at UFC Hall of

2155
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: Fame's credentials would be. If it's the actual Hall of Fame,

2156
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: I think all you've ever had to done is win

2157
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: a championship or be best friends with data Like I mean, look,

2158
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't mean to kick Matt Sarah when he's down,

2159
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: but he won eleven and seven. Luke, I mean, come on, like,

2160
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: but the real if this was the standards of the

2161
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: baseball and the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Being a

2162
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: champion does not, in my mind, automatically get you in,

2163
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: but it can definitely. Like Michael Bispeek sway a conversation,

2164
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I personally think bisbeing faults just short. We debated it

2165
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 1: back and forth, but you get what I'm saying. You

2166
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: said you're not sure if Glover to share is I

2167
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 1: think if you look up and down Glover's resume, I mean,

2168
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: he's got a better argument than Bisping for sure. But

2169
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: what's the true Mendoza line here? Luke? What is the

2170
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: things that separate the haves from the have nots? Being

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01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: a champion?

2172
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 2: Question you have to ask yourself. Is being a champion

2173
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: a and I don't mean getting in with like, oh

2174
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 2: he was part of this fight or pioneer, I mean

2175
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 2: like for your achievements as a fighter. Right, That's what

2176
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 2: we're talking about here, do you have to be a

2177
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 2: champion to get in.

2178
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: Not exclusively, right, because look at somebody like Dustin Poirier,

2179
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: although he was an interim champion, if he never wins

2180
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: the big one, dude, the resume is sick. Right, So

2181
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 1: it's a different situation.

2182
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would say that you don't have to

2183
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 2: be a champion. I would not make it a you know,

2184
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 2: either you have this or you don't. But I would say,

2185
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 2: first things first, if you're not a champion, you have

2186
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 2: to have something very special about what you did. Number one,

2187
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,640
Speaker 2: number two. Even if you are a champion, you know,

2188
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 2: if you don't have any title defenses, I don't know

2189
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 2: if that automatically titles you entry either. So it's obvious.

2190
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 2: It's like strength of schedule. If you're a champion for

2191
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 2: how long, how many title defenses against to how many

2192
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: times in foreign territory or whatever? You know, how many

2193
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 2: times did you get a finish against the top tier

2194
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 2: ranked opponent. How many of those names are still relevant

2195
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 2: later on in your career, Like you know, a lot

2196
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 2: of times guys get wins and then all those dudes

2197
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 2: bounce out and they're no longer there. It's all those things.

2198
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Really does longevity matter for you? I say that because

2199
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,480
Speaker 1: I tend to criticize sometimes guys that I think are compilers,

2200
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 1: and I sometimes hold their longevity almost against them and say, Okay,

2201
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: we're only talking about them because they're still here and

2202
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: semi relevant. But hey, they were never elite to me, Luke,

2203
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: you have to be almost like an MVP candidate. You

2204
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: have to have had years in which you were in

2205
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 1: the top five discussion for Fighter of the Year, which

2206
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: is basically Fighting's MVP. Right, Like, if it's not enough

2207
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: to just be pretty damn good and maybe you want

2208
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: to title once and lost it in the first defense,

2209
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: you have to have names on that resume. Where do

2210
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: you think longevity fits into that? Because I mean, you know,

2211
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 1: so Habib's got holes in longevity, but god, he accomplished

2212
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 1: a ton.

2213
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. You could knock how

2214
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,640
Speaker 2: much of Habib lacks some of the longer resumes that

2215
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: are available. So longevity matters, but as long as it's

2216
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: not garbage times. So this is the problem with Kirk Cousins, right,

2217
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 2: he can do okay things in a game. He's not great,

2218
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 2: he's not terrible, He's just kind of okay, but his

2219
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 2: stats look at least when he played here in DC,

2220
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 2: his stats would always improve by virtue of the fact that,

2221
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 2: you know, in the fourth quarter, when they've already lost

2222
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 2: the game, he'd march the team down the field and

2223
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:30,640
Speaker 2: so he'd be like, you know, oh, he doesn't have

2224
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 2: that many picks, and he threw over three hundred yards.

2225
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 2: But it's like never when it really mattered. So, yes,

2226
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 2: we want to avoid the Kirk Cousins situations. Again, it's

2227
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 2: going to go back to one frequency of competition late,

2228
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 2: But also who did you beat? Were they ranked? Were

2229
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: they not ranked? Were their stylistic nightmares were they not?

2230
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 2: You know, So it's not like I want to take

2231
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,839
Speaker 2: away what Jim Miller is doing right now. Right for example,

2232
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 2: like what is Jim Miller doing? He is showing you longevity,

2233
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 2: That longevity against the guys he's showing is very admirable,

2234
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 2: and of course your entire resume counts when we're assessing

2235
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 2: these questions of Hall of Fame or not. But I

2236
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 2: would say that the opponents he's beating now, while what

2237
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: he's doing is very admirable, these would not be at

2238
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 2: the top of the list of things I would put

2239
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 2: if I wanted to make a case for Jim Miller's entry.

2240
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 2: It's interesting, it's noteworthy, and it's certainly commendable. It's not

2241
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 2: really Hall of Fame fuel.

2242
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: What is your take on sales and popularity, because in

2243
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,680
Speaker 1: the on the boxing side, when both Mike Tyson and

2244
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 1: Arturo Gotti separately went into the Boxing Hall of Fame,

2245
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: there was some kickback. Now, I personally think what Mike

2246
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Tyson accomplished in that short window of his prime in

2247
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties before Buster Douglas, mixed with the fact

2248
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: that he came out of jail and at least won

2249
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 1: a piece of the title again before his career falling

2250
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: apart to me, he's a Hall of Famer, but obviously

2251
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: him getting in is a lot with the popularity and

2252
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 1: the force of nature. And then Arturo Gotti, even though

2253
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: he won you know, a title here and there, Dude,

2254
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 1: that's action fight. That's like critical pop popularity, you know

2255
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because because he brought a certain style.

2256
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: Do you think in the UFC Hall of Fame a

2257
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: guy could get bumped up because he was either a

2258
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: big pay per view seller or he was just an

2259
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 1: all blood and guts type of guy.

2260
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 2: Only if that blood and guts led to actual achievement.

2261
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:16,759
Speaker 2: Like I don't mind if they went up and down,

2262
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 2: but if the blood and guts, at least at times

2263
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 2: propelled them to greatness. Yeah, you could make like for

2264
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: an RDA. Like ANRDA doesn't have a blood and gut

2265
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 2: style all the time, but he has fought so many

2266
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 2: good guys even when it was not even advisable for

2267
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 2: him to do, so that I will discount some of

2268
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 2: the loss a little bit. A little bit. I don't

2269
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 2: think you can look at his resume and be like,

2270
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 2: he's got all these losses, we shouldn't even count him.

2271
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, what he even attempted was a borderline impossible.

2272
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 2: So you start from that and then you work your

2273
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 2: way down. I get your question slightly different. You're talking

2274
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 2: about like popularity versus that. But I would say for popularity,

2275
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit less moved. But strength of schedule

2276
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 2: to me counts a lot, and losses are not as

2277
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 2: prohibitive for those reasons as they otherwise might be in

2278
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 2: a different sport.

2279
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's speed through this one. We give you

2280
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:10,600
Speaker 1: that platform. Oh, by the way, thank you to all

2281
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: of our people setting in Luke, do you think.

2282
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much. I enjoyed doing this. I

2283
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 2: like this part.

2284
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for those dms. Oh let's go to

2285
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: dead wrong. This will be quick in pain less maybe,

2286
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: But Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. You tell us

2287
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: what we got wrong, and we stand the test of

2288
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: time and we stand up to that. L let's do it.

2289
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: Do you like my screwdriver? BC?

2290
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't see it, Luke, what do you got there?

2291
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: I got a pink one here? You like that? Luke?

2292
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 2: My wife to do this to change out cameras.

2293
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. The screws on my mic stand fall apart constantly,

2294
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: so I got this backup screwdriver. Just always ready, Luke.

2295
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: From Joe at around fifty five twenty four of episode

2296
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: two eighty one, Luke states, something is a little bit unique.

2297
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: Something can't be a bit unique. It's either unique or

2298
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 1: it isn't. Just like you can't be a bit pregnant.

2299
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: You either are you're not. I wouldn't usually be such

2300
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: a p dan pedant, but when it's to call out

2301
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: the King of pedantry, I couldn't resist. Shout out From Leeds, England,

2302
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 1: a factory town with a great football team, loved the show.

2303
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:12,839
Speaker 1: It's Joe Luke. You're gonna take that unique?

2304
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Uh No, that is such a ridiculous point. There are

2305
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 2: obviously shades of uniqueness. What an absurd thing to say. No,

2306
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: that's not an l at all.

2307
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Okay, well you are pretty pedantic. Look I'll give you.

2308
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 2: Yes, that part is true, that that accusation has a

2309
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: ton of merit. But the one about unique, I mean,

2310
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 2: I understand what he's saying that it's a contradiction in

2311
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 2: terms to put it that way, but that's not quite true.

2312
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 2: The uniqueness can have a variety of applications and significances.

2313
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 2: That's it's not even remotely true.

2314
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: All right, this is Sam, I think the worst one

2315
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 1: we've ever had. That's a shit stain. This from Sam.

2316
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: In relation to Josh Warrington having lost his title due

2317
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 1: to politics, he didn't lose the belt. He gave it

2318
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 1: up as he didn't want to fight the mandatories and

2319
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: he wanted bigger, exciting fights. Then the pandemic hits, so

2320
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: he didn't get the fights he wanted, so instead he

2321
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 1: fought Laura and kod If Warrington fights Lee would it

2322
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 1: would be an amazing atmosphere and better than AJ and

2323
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,800
Speaker 1: Fury as it will be full of boxing passionate and

2324
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: football fans supporting their team and local man, while AJ

2325
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: and Fury gets more casual, so not as Panetshed. I

2326
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 1: stand by what he's saying. He's basically I don't think

2327
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 1: we were wrong because you know, I mentioned that Warrington

2328
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: got stripped of his belt in the pandemic due to politics.

2329
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 1: But I guess he's right saying Warrington wanted bigger fights

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01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: and didn't want to do the mandatories. We've seen that before.

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01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 1: But you know, you can either play the ABC title

2332
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: game or you could kick the titles to the dirt

2333
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: and get big payday. So let's keep it going. This

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01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: is from Danger Mouse Luke, who designed our m K

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01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: hub t shirt. Sorry Luke, but you're dead wrong. In

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01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: this week's extra credit on three occasions, you said the

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01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: fight between DJ and Rod Tang was fought using kickboxing rules,

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01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 1: when in fact it was muy thai.

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01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 2: Yes, he's right, that's fair. There is a difference and

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01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 2: sometimes I interchangeably use them in the same way. But

2341
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 2: I shouldn't do that because the rules between different forms

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01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 2: of like Western kickboxing and muay Thai, especially as it

2343
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 2: relates to the Clinch, can be quite different. So that's

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01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 2: a fair I'll take that out. That's a fair L.

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01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 2: I'll take it all right.

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01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: Finally, and I like this L because I'm gonna take

2347
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: it I was wrong. This is Jordan from Hawaii saying, hey,

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01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: Donk's In episode two eighty three during Truth or Trivia,

2349
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 1: Luke was asked to name all eight fill in co

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01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: hosts during MK History, b C himself forgot to put

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01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 1: Kieron mulvaney as another MK co host. I was on

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01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: vacation and Kieren filled in on episode two thirty three

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01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: with Luke to preview what was that unification fight between

2354
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: Fulton and Figueroa Great content has always loved the Gilbert

2355
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 1: Burns interview. Apologies, you know I love Karen Molvady going

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01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:38,919
Speaker 1: way back. I had forgotten that to Luke.

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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,280
Speaker 2: Mean I was, I was on. I did the show

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01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 2: with him. Sorry, Kiernon, I am.

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01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: That's funny that you accidentally called him Kiernan because we've

2360
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: been making fun of him to his face for years

2361
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: because one time mulv co hosted a press conference with

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01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: Ac Slater and Ac Slater called him Kiernan like ten

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01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 1: times during it and just just.

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01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: On a coology. Yes, I often get them confused. Kieran

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01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 2: and Kiernan Karen.

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Speaker 1: Ol Vani, one half of course of the Showtime Boxing

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01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 1: podcast with Eric Askin. Great listen, check that out. Thank

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01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 1: you for the ls. We'll take a few of them.

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01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 1: And finally, Luke, this will be a shortened version of it.

2370
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: But I think it's important and Conto has become a

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01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,599
Speaker 1: massive part of your life, love it or hate it,

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01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 1: So we did a short notice MK homework of all

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01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: things Columbian cartoons and life changing messages. This is your

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01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 1: MK homework assign. Luke.

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01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 2: I like how you and I both collectively only know

2376
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:36,799
Speaker 2: the names of three of our segments.

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01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly. I watched it this morning. This movie

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01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 1: came out what last year? It just won the OSCAR

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01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: for Best Animated Feature. And Luke key shout out to

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01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 1: your guy. I was gonna say, Juan Manuel Marcus Lynn

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01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Manuel Miranda for writing the songs on.

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01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 2: Here, right, yeah, most of them, I think. Yeah.

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01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,839
Speaker 1: I think he sings the last one during the closing

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01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 1: credits as well. All right, Luke, why don't you set

2385
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 1: the stage on this how you got into it whether

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01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 1: you like it or not, and then we'll get my

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01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: review of it.

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01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 2: Well, I'd rather hear your review first. But the way

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01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 2: I got into it was pretty obvious. My family got

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01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 2: winned that Disney was making a movie called Encanto is

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01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 2: going to be set in Colombia. And for folks who

2392
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: don't know, there is this term. It comes from Colonal

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01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 2: Columbia's most famous writers, Gabro Garcia Marquez, which is called Gabo,

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01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 2: which is called magical realism, which sounds inherently contradictory, but

2395
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: it's not. It's the sort of heady mix of the

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01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 2: sort of the terrors of the real world but with

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01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 2: all of these sort of supernatural properties. And it's much

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01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 2: more complicated than that. I'm giving you the almost a

2399
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 2: Disney version of it, but it's a it's a big

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01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 2: literary movement. And there he wasn't the only one behind him.

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01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 2: He was sort of the main driving force. And this

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01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 2: movie picks up on essentially that magical realism of Gabo

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01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 2: that has been such a part of Colombian literature and

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01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 2: frankly like fiction works. And because of that, we were

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 2: like highly intrigued. Now the first time I saw it,

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01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I like it. I liked it.

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01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 2: I liked it. The big one in our house that

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01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 2: was big before Incanto was Coco. Have you ever seen Coco? BC? No?

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01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: Would you? Would you say on the surface that that

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01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: Coco and this movie are like a Latin turn to

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01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 1: try to recreate the frozen uh pandemic that happened where

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01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 1: everyone and their mother like lived there.

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01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the thing is that Coco is inherently Mexican

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01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 2: and picks up on a lot of things that are

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've never been to Mexico and or

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01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 2: you don't anything about Mexican and I'm shamefully I didn't

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01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:34,839
Speaker 2: really know a whole lot about it all, even relatively

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01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 2: recently in my life. God, Mexico is so rich in

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01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 2: culture and tradition, you just cannot believe all the things

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01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 2: that they that that's part of that world. One of them,

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01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 2: of course, is Dia, the Day of the Dead, and

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 2: so Coco takes place in that. And Coco for us

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01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 2: was like the gold standard. Now, that's a Pixar movie,

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01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 2: which of course Disney owns, but it's a separate studio.

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01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: This was Incanto was not so when I first saw it,

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01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 2: I did feel like that they faithfully represented elements of

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01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,799
Speaker 2: Colombian culture. Now, the weird thing is that in Kanto

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01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 2: is kind of just a mix of all different parts

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01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 2: of Colombia. This may not seem like real to you

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01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: or or it's hard to understand, but for a country

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01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 2: I got in South America, everyone associates it with one

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01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 2: thing or the other. But Colombia is hugely diverse like all.

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01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it has deserts, mountains, beaches and everything in between.

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01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,839
Speaker 2: And the languages spoke between them are and the accents

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01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 2: are different. The food is different, the dance is different.

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01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean, everything about in place to place is wildly different.

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01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 2: And this movie kind of smashes it all together. It's

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01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 2: sort of reminiscent of a place called Vida de Leva,

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01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 2: where it's like, what is what is like an old

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01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 2: colonial town? Look like? It feels a little bit like that.

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01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 2: So I thought they did a pretty good job of

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01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 2: trying to like faithfully represent Colombian culture. I did not

2443
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 2: like the part of the movie where there was no

2444
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 2: real identifiable villain. That to me was something of a miss.

2445
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 2: But in some cosequently watching it, what you may not

2446
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 2: appreciate is. And we'll get into your reviewer in a second,

2447
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 2: which you may not appreciate is And I've told a

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01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 2: story before you go to Columbia. Now, you know, you

2449
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: got to be a very savvy traveler. But in general, it's,

2450
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 2: you know, if you're not a dumbass, it's quite safe,

2451
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 2: and it's a beautiful thing to see. It's it's just

2452
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 2: such a place of wonder. But back when my wife

2453
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 2: grew up there, obviously that was really not the case.

2454
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: And I've told you this before, but it really bears repeating.

2455
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 2: I have met all of her friends from high school

2456
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 2: in college that she has introduced me to, obviously, and

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01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 2: many of them twenty or more, and every single one

2458
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 2: of them, every single one of them has something happened

2459
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 2: in their life from either that one of their parents

2460
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 2: was captured by the gorillas, their brother was shot in

2461
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 2: a you know, crossfire between narco traffickers or something. Some

2462
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 2: part of the dysfunction of the eighties and nineties bled

2463
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: into every one of their lives. One of her best

2464
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 2: friends we had dinner with recently, his dad is missing.

2465
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 2: I told you before. His dad is missing his leg

2466
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 2: from the knee down because he was in a movie theater.

2467
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: He saw a bomb and he kicked it, and you know,

2468
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 2: he manished to live. But this is just all of them.

2469
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 2: All of them are like this. And I've told you

2470
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 2: guys this before. My wife's father was murdered and they

2471
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 2: believe it was He was not involved, the police don't think.

2472
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 2: But he was in the wrong place for a long

2473
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 2: time when a bunch of narco people thought he was

2474
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 2: somebody that he wasn't. He was actually accidentally murdered. This

2475
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 2: goes all the way down. So what they tried to

2476
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 2: do was find a like a villain that didn't have

2477
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 2: a name that sort of encapsulated how much damage it's

2478
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 2: done and how much it scarred Colombian society by virtue

2479
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 2: of these people that pushed Abuela out and she got

2480
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 2: this miracle, right, That's what they were trying to go for,

2481
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 2: and I thought with that they did about as best

2482
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 2: they could. In subsequent watches BC, I've really enjoyed it

2483
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 2: even more than I did, I still don't think it's Yeah.

2484
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 2: I'll say this last thing I'll say is I don't

2485
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: think it's quite as good as Coco. Coco is just

2486
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 2: super special. But I really do think that people got

2487
01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 2: to see a happier side of Colombian life. It's been

2488
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 2: a long overdue.

2489
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2490
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 1: And if you're new to our show and you're like,

2491
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 1: what the hell is a fight show reviewing an animated

2492
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Disney film, Well, when we need to fill time or

2493
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 1: on off weeks, it's we've done homework like this in

2494
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: the past, for songs, books, whatever, you know, movies. But Luke, this,

2495
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, you have a young daughter and this is

2496
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: a movie is a phenomenon. So this became a big

2497
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: part of your life. And I also respect, Luke. What

2498
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know about cultures being suburban, factory town, white kid, right,

2499
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: and so I liked, I like this what I got

2500
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: from that. So here's my foundation here. I've never been

2501
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: an animation guy. When everybody else's kids, Luke was like

2502
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: living their life based on the Lion King and you

2503
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 1: know whatever, the one with the Mermaid. I don't know, Luke.

2504
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 1: I never watched that stuff. But when forced to watch

2505
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff, obviously these are good. These are dimmable.

2506
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: I have kids that were fourteen now, but when they

2507
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: were young, we went and saw cars, we went and

2508
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 1: saw planes, Like you know, I know what's going on here.

2509
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 1: I reluctantly watched this with that same like look. In

2510
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: the first five minutes, I'm like, really, Luke's making me

2511
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 1: watch this movie about a family of Colombian sorcerers who

2512
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: happened to just use their superpowers for good. But like

2513
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: you get to realize that, like you're saying upon multiple

2514
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: rewatches that it's it's a strong, accurate representation of a

2515
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: culture that you know has certainly overlooked for average Americans.

2516
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,360
Speaker 1: And I get what you're saying now, basically from your

2517
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: preamble about you know, spoiler alert that the father of

2518
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: this Madrigal family is you know, accidentally murdered or whatever.

2519
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 1: But as a result, the family inherits sort of this

2520
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:34,959
Speaker 1: magic candle that save them, and each family member receives

2521
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: their special power at the age of five, but then

2522
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: uses that special power to help their community. Obviously, feel

2523
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 1: good family message in the long run, musical and all that,

2524
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: but I got a deeper message as I'm watching it.

2525
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you say something that's true. There's

2526
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: no like obvious villain, there's no Kuala to villain here.

2527
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: There's obviously the villains that took away a bway low,

2528
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: but the villains I think are fear prejudice based on fear,

2529
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: meaning prejudice from the Grandma of Boila of certain things

2530
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 1: and people. Also just the personal journey of trying to

2531
01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 1: discover your own they're calling it superpowers, but really your

2532
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: own purpose in life, your own self identity. Luke, that's

2533
01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 1: a walk that we all go through, and sometimes we

2534
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: go through it multiple times based on the different seasons

2535
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: of our life. That's a relatable message that any you know,

2536
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 1: parent can get if you're forced to watch this for

2537
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 1: your kids, or if you happen to like this type

2538
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: of cinema. I like that. But as I'm digging deeper, Luke,

2539
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna make fun of me. I know

2540
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna think I'm trying to do a bit. Dude,

2541
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this. And conto is the

2542
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: story of Morning Combat. What I'm serious? Okay, So here's

2543
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: the deal. What's the main.

2544
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 2: Character's name, Mary Bell Mirabelle.

2545
01:58:53,560 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: So that's you, Luke. And here's what I know. This

2546
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 1: is gonna sound like Billy Madison, the puppy that lost

2547
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: his way society, But you know it's just you know,

2548
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: here's the thing.

2549
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 2: Luke, Yes, I'm also I'm also loathed by my family members. Yes.

2550
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:09,839
Speaker 1: So Mary Bell is the only she's like fourteen or fifteen.

2551
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: She's the only member of this family that wasn't given

2552
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: a superpower at age five. Long reason as to why,

2553
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: And like a lot of us, Luke, whether we're fifteen

2554
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 1: or thirty five or whatever, she's sort of like, what

2555
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,800
Speaker 1: do I have to give to society? What's my you know,

2556
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,880
Speaker 1: I haven't figured out my passion, my job, my skill,

2557
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: my whatever, Luke. If A Buela who was the one

2558
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: that was sort of against her granddaughter in a weird way,

2559
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: Abuela is Mma. Okay, you are Mary Bell. You're born

2560
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:37,920
Speaker 1: into this family.

2561
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 2: Of arabat sports, Mira.

2562
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 1: Belle, you're born into this family of combat sports. Yeah,

2563
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 1: you have some moments, but you never felt like you

2564
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: got your do or your push or your purpose or

2565
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 1: your whatever. And then there's other people around you, like you.

2566
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 2: Know who Ariel Hawani is, Luisa.

2567
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Isabella No, Luisa, Gabby Garcia Luke, Okay, Luisa's clearly Gabby Garcia. Okay,

2568
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 1: all right, all right, So here's the deal, Luke. You

2569
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 1: know what it took for you to finally break through

2570
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 1: and get happy. Some would say the birth of your daughter.

2571
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: But Luke, this mk journey that we've been on that

2572
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying is because of me. I'm saying that

2573
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of cosmic factors came together. Look, it's changed

2574
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: you as a person, right, just like Mati Bell realizing

2575
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 1: her true calling and power. But how did she get there?

2576
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: How did she get there? We're not supposed to talk

2577
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 1: about Bruno and that family didn't. Bruno is Mati Bell's

2578
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 1: uncle and his gift was seeing the future. The family

2579
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't like it or really recognize it because he had

2580
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:42,000
Speaker 1: a vision for Mardi Bell that was like scary and

2581
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 1: people didn't believe in it. So he had to go

2582
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: in hiding in his own sort of tower behind a painting. So, Luke,

2583
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: within the space of combat sports, I was kind of

2584
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 1: in hiding. In fact, you could argue that uncle Bruno

2585
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: is fairly unkept with his facial hair and hair like

2586
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 1: me at times. And also, Luke, he he's living with

2587
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 1: the rats and doing plays with them. I was covering

2588
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: pro wrestling at a voracious level before you and I

2589
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 1: got together. That's more or less the same thing. And

2590
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I know you don't want me to say that it

2591
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:12,600
Speaker 1: looks like Uncle Bruno is wearing a drug rug because

2592
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: it's not. You tell me it's a ruana, right.

2593
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 2: That's right, it's a ruana.

2594
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a traditional Colombian and I respect that. But

2595
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 1: if you did a side by side with me in

2596
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 1: the MK drug rug. So here's the deal, Luke, you are.

2597
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:29,160
Speaker 1: You are this girl who didn't find her way until

2598
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 1: she found her purpose by meeting this scraggly old uncle

2599
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:36,360
Speaker 1: who revealed it to her. That's you and I coming together.

2600
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: The casita is morning combat, and Luke, think of some

2601
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 1: of the quotes that were said. I don't think you

2602
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 1: make bad things happen. Sometimes family weirdos just get a

2603
02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 1: bad rap. That's me. That's Bruno, the family weirdo. But

2604
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 1: then when we got together, Luke, as Maddie Bell found out,

2605
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 1: and I'll say this to you as Bruno said it

2606
02:01:53,320 --> 02:01:56,200
Speaker 1: to her, Luke, you're exactly what this family needs. You

2607
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 1: just have to see it. Luke, you were meant for

2608
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: big things in this space all lot, despite the ups

2609
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 1: and downs, the times you thought you were you know,

2610
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: put to the side and said no, you don't have

2611
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 1: that special power. You really do Luke. And it took

2612
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 1: you meeting this weird guy who lives in his own

2613
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: room with rats me to pull that together. And Luke,

2614
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 1: in some ways a Boila. She represents, like I said

2615
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 1: at Mima, but she also kind of represents Vox because

2616
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Mati Bell told a Buela, I will never be good

2617
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 1: enough for you, no matter how hard I try. That's

2618
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 1: kind of where you were at with Vox. It's kind

2619
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 1: of where I was at with ESPN. It's like they're

2620
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 1: giving me opportunities. They're not gonna pay me though, right, Luke.

2621
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 1: So as they said in this the miracle is not

2622
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 1: some magic that you've got. The miracle is you, Luke.

2623
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 1: You've been a miracle all along in this space, and

2624
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 1: maybe you're just realizing it now with these awards and

2625
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: this money and this platform and this opportunity. But you

2626
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 1: ran into an old drug rug wizard like myself who

2627
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 1: was living in the closet cover and pro wrestling, and

2628
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 1: look what we've built together. Your superpower came out, Luke,

2629
02:02:54,640 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: it was there all along. What a beautiful love story.

2630
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you that is a better review you

2631
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 2: than I ever thought you were going to give. I'm

2632
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,920
Speaker 2: not sure how accurate it is if we really hold

2633
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 2: it up to scrutiny, But I do like the way

2634
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 2: in which you have thought about it. And I gotta

2635
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 2: tell you, I'm a little bit moved by a BC

2636
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 2: that was.

2637
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, looks like great Mary Bell always compared herself

2638
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:18,040
Speaker 1: to her sister Isabella.

2639
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:22,720
Speaker 2: You gonna mispronounce this name. It's not Mary Bell, it's Mirabelle.

2640
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:24,400
Speaker 2: M I r a.

2641
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 1: Mirabelle always compared herself to Isabella, who was like the

2642
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 1: pretty one and got all the opportunities and was engaged

2643
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 1: in all this stuff. Luke, right, I mean like we've

2644
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:35,280
Speaker 1: all looked around and said, man, that guy's getting everything.

2645
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: What about me? Luke. It's time. It's our moment right now.

2646
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,400
Speaker 1: I watched this movie the day after we just won

2647
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 1: the Best damn Podcast award. Okay, it's happening. It's here, Luke,

2648
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: and we are using our powers for good, just like

2649
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:52,760
Speaker 1: the Madrigal's family's history. The Madrigals, they're mk Luke. Okay,

2650
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:55,760
Speaker 1: that that that Casida, that's our village that we've built.

2651
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's my tell.

2652
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 2: Love that review. I'm gonna I don't have anything to

2653
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,160
Speaker 2: add to that. I love that review. I'm going to

2654
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:04,120
Speaker 2: let that be what it is. I thank you for that. BC.

2655
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 2: That was really that was great. That was really great.

2656
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Obviously this is I think the songs are good. I

2657
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 1: think it's very well. It's computer animated and animated, but

2658
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:17,879
Speaker 1: it very well shows the flashy colors, the culture, the spirit.

2659
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 1: What do you give this as an actual movie? One

2660
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:21,560
Speaker 1: to ten. Now it might be a Jata review because

2661
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 1: you've probably watched it four thousand times because of your daughter,

2662
02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:26,360
Speaker 1: But how do you look at this score?

2663
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 2: One to solid solid four out of five, solid four

2664
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 2: out of five. It's by no means a bad movie.

2665
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit hesitant to call it an exceptional movie,

2666
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 2: even though there are parts of it that are pretty exceptional.

2667
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 2: And I will say, by the way, you see that

2668
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 2: one scene where they were throwing the tajose early on,

2669
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 2: so that was a part of it. Also, like even

2670
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 2: little details like they're that one scene where they want

2671
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,840
Speaker 2: Mariano to propose to Isabella at the table when after

2672
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 2: the Bruno song, if you look at the food they're

2673
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:57,040
Speaker 2: passing out, they're passing out very traditional Colombian fold called achiako.

2674
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:01,480
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate they put into it. It falls

2675
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 2: a little bit short for some of the reasons I've articulated.

2676
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 2: I'll give it four out of five skulls or whatever stars.

2677
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 1: Okay, what about we usually do up to ten. Right,

2678
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: We've given some.

2679
02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 2: That case a solid eight and a half, eight and

2680
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 2: a half, eight and a half.

2681
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 1: And a half. Wow, all right, I'm gonna give it

2682
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 1: a six out of ten. I liked the Barron last

2683
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 1: time I was. I just don't like that format. You

2684
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:20,760
Speaker 1: have just not an animated guy. And even though I

2685
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 1: told you I've watched some of them and I've enjoyed them,

2686
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go back and rewatch. It's just me.

2687
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 1: It's me, Luke. Okay, it is who I am. All right,

2688
02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But in this genre, I

2689
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 1: think it's a pretty damn strong flick, Luke. So anyone

2690
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: out there that had to watch it because their kids

2691
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 1: are they're thinking about it, you can get that on

2692
02:05:35,560 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: Disney Plus and check that ship.

2693
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 2: But by the way, your favorite song from it is

2694
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 2: we don't talk about We don't talk about Bruno. By

2695
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 2: the way, past Let It Go from Frozen is like

2696
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 2: the biggest Disney song which I found really Yeah, it's big. Yeah,

2697
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 2: and that's what I gotta say. Mine is dos Urugitas

2698
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 2: from Sebastian Yatara.

2699
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Who's which character sings that? Which character?

2700
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 2: Dosita is? No one sings. That's the scene where the

2701
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 2: house falls apart. Then Abela and and Mitabel meet in

2702
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:03,760
Speaker 2: the river, and then that song plays with the butterflies

2703
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 2: those dugitas two caterpillars is what it means. And Sebastian

2704
02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 2: yatra is like he's like a famous Colombian singer. And

2705
02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 2: he actually performed I think at the at the uh

2706
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 2: Oscars before Will Smith was doing all the slapping and

2707
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 2: ship But there you go.

2708
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 12: Did you guys see Meg the Stallion performed. We don't

2709
02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:20,920
Speaker 12: talk about Bruno at.

2710
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 2: The Oscars terrible.

2711
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 12: I didn't watch the whole thing, but I'm a I mean,

2712
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:27,440
Speaker 12: I'm a fan of Mega Stallion.

2713
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did see that. I'm not really a

2714
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:34,920
Speaker 2: big fan of Oscar Raps. Sorry, I don't care how

2715
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:38,120
Speaker 2: popular she is. Yeah, yeahs I've seen I've seen her.

2716
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 2: I've seen her. She's she has like all of her

2717
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:43,160
Speaker 2: fans are called hotties, and she has the Popeyes sandwich thing,

2718
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:45,280
Speaker 2: and yeah, I know she is. I have nothing against her,

2719
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 2: but when you're rapping about the Oscars. When you're at

2720
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 2: the Oscars, you can timeout. I'm done.

2721
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:52,080
Speaker 12: So did you do it better than Mega Stallion?

2722
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:52,320
Speaker 1: Luke?

2723
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 2: I did it better than everyone except the family Madrigal.

2724
02:06:58,120 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Respect Look, I'll give you a credit because you did

2725
02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 1: it without music, because we couldn't play the song copyright.

2726
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 2: I had to just do it in my head.

2727
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:08,080
Speaker 1: And you were like, yo, BC, how long does you

2728
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 1: have to be?

2729
02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 2: Like a minute?

2730
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 1: And then we couldn't get you off the stage at

2731
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:11,480
Speaker 1: the end of it.

2732
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 2: Look all right, b C, I do have to get

2733
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 2: ready for other things. We've been doing this for two

2734
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 2: hours plus.

2735
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 1: All right, today was a weird, but interesting and fun episode.

2736
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 1: Thank you to all our great listeners. Thank you to

2737
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:23,960
Speaker 1: our team Corey Long Island Luke for putting the shit together,

2738
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: Mikey and the crew. Thank you to everybody. Award winning

2739
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 1: but really just a weird fraternity and family, as we

2740
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:31,880
Speaker 1: like to say of people who get us. Luke, I

2741
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 1: don't know what we've created here in this weird soup,

2742
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 1: but they're drinking it, so we'll continue to do that.

2743
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,640
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2744
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2745
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Speaker 1: know what you're getting to that shout out to our

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