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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone today for a first date
Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ryan.
Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him see
Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe
Speaker 2: get her another date if she still wants one. But first, Jasmine,
Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Ryan?
Speaker 2: It's been a week, okay, So have you reached out
Speaker 2: to him? And that week about how many times.
Speaker 3: Do you think I've reached out to him? Embarrassingly? Probably
Speaker 3: over twenty times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a lot. Don't be embarrassed. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that.
Speaker 4: We can all say that that ghosting is definitely happening here.
Speaker 4: Then yeah, unless he lost his phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both, Like who can survive without a phone nowadays?
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 2: What were the twenty texts or calls?
Speaker 5: Like, what did you say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I basically it was it was like more
Speaker 3: than twenty calls and then just a text. Has just
Speaker 3: been kind of like I kind of just been kind
Speaker 3: of writing paragraphs only because him and I basically met
Speaker 3: we spoke on this app and then before a meeting,
Speaker 3: we were just he was like hyping me up and
Speaker 3: just it was almost like love bombing, to be honest,
Speaker 3: now that I think about it, and now that I've
Speaker 3: spoken to my friends on it, but he kind of
Speaker 3: promised me a lot of things, and I guess I
Speaker 3: was just being really vulnerable. But before we met, he
Speaker 3: was telling me how pretty I was, and we were
Speaker 3: going to go to this place and we're going to
Speaker 3: go to that place. And then when I met him,
Speaker 3: he was so incredible, so like everything I could even
Speaker 3: ask for I checked off, Like I don't ever, I
Speaker 3: don't even know if people have to check box list.
Speaker 3: I don't, but if I were to have one, he's
Speaker 3: definitely that person. And he was witty, which is what
Speaker 3: I love so much. Yeah, when we met at this
Speaker 3: top bugs bar, and I was just super excited about everything.
Speaker 3: He paid for the check of course, you know, like
Speaker 3: any gentleman would, and yeah, I asked him if she
Speaker 3: was okay after that and absolutely nothing. But before then
Speaker 3: before we were the day, everything we're just like so
Speaker 3: many checks. It was like a lot. Like I said,
Speaker 3: it was like love bombing. And then we go on
Speaker 3: this date and it's the greatest time of my life.
Speaker 3: And then I was like okay, like you know, I
Speaker 3: was going to wait to see if he wanted to
Speaker 3: go ahead and give me a call, because that's like
Speaker 3: what you do. But he took too long. I was
Speaker 3: like hey, like are you okay? And then I was
Speaker 3: just like thanks for the night. And then after that,
Speaker 3: I've just been like, what's going on?
Speaker 4: So while you were on the date at the restaurant,
Speaker 4: it was so perfect, Like can you tell us about that?
Speaker 4: What were the conversations like, like what did you guys do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was it was like NonStop, like talked
Speaker 3: about our future together. He was talking about he was
Speaker 3: talking about going to like Papo, going to like like
Speaker 3: meet his parents.
Speaker 5: That's superad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that I would wonder what was going on, but
Speaker 4: also it'd be kind of flaggy to hear somebody start talking.
Speaker 5: That way so soon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you do or say anything on the date
Speaker 4: that may have I don't know, altered the course of
Speaker 4: this marriage.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean maybe I like appeared too eager
Speaker 3: because he's like, yeah, like we'll meet like my parents.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to show you like my grandparents too.
Speaker 3: And I was just like maybe, like I said, like, yes,
Speaker 3: too quick.
Speaker 5: That is a lot to go that far, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then now I just think maybe he's like he
Speaker 3: wasn't attracted to me or something, and maybe I should
Speaker 3: have wanted the parent dress, but I don't look basic.
Speaker 3: But I was like, I feel like I picked the
Speaker 3: perfect dress, like you know, like when you ask like
Speaker 3: your girlfriends when you're going out, and I did. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now I feel kind of insecure and just not okay
Speaker 3: with the right selection that I even picked on my dress.
Speaker 5: Well not be anything about you at all.
Speaker 4: I mean, I understand turning to yourself like what's wrong
Speaker 4: with me and doing the superficial like clothing and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, but there's a really good chance it has
Speaker 4: nothing to do with any of that.
Speaker 3: But like, first date impressions are everything too, you know,
Speaker 3: like when I like, when you wear like a red
Speaker 3: dress that makes a big statement that maybe I should
Speaker 3: have just formed that one, and I just I wore
Speaker 3: a regular black dress, and I think that like a
Speaker 3: guy probably in the first date wants like a red
Speaker 3: statement piece dress.
Speaker 2: As a guy who's been on dates before, I don't
Speaker 2: think I would care black or red as long as
Speaker 2: you're wearing something or not pretty on where we meet.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: if the color of it, but hey, who knows. Everybody's different. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: plays on come back, get your first day follow up.
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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up.
Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Ryan.
Speaker 2: So we're about to call him and see if he'll
Speaker 2: tell us why he's a ghosting her and see if
Speaker 2: she still wants another date after she hears the reason.
Speaker 2: But things moved pretty quickly. Jasmine, give a real quick
Speaker 2: recap for everybody who's just joining us on your situation
Speaker 2: with Ryan.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I feel like this isn't your regular like
Speaker 3: ghost story. I mean, like this guy sent me flowers
Speaker 3: before our date. He told me he wanted he told
Speaker 3: me we wanted to travel together, that I can meet
Speaker 3: his parents, he paid for the bill. Everything was good,
Speaker 3: good conversation, and now I absolutely haven't heard from him.
Speaker 3: And it went from so many messages of flowers to
Speaker 3: my door and now I don't even get a peep nothing.
Speaker 5: I would want to know. Yeah, I would definitely want
Speaker 5: to know what's going on. All right, Well, you ready
Speaker 5: for us to call him?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Here we go, Hello him. I seeking to Ryan. Please.
Speaker 6: This is Ryan, Ryan.
Speaker 5: How are you man? My name is Jubil from a
Speaker 5: radio show called The Jebel Show. Hi, Ryan, whole show's here.
Speaker 5: I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.
Speaker 6: Well, okay, what's up?
Speaker 5: Have you ever listened to the show before?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 7: Oh? Cool?
Speaker 2: No, Ryan, we're calling you because you went on a
Speaker 2: date with somebody and you haven't called them back. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if you've ever heard a first
Speaker 2: date follow up before, but that's the segment where if
Speaker 2: you go out with someone and then ghost them, they
Speaker 2: ask us to call you and ask why. So we
Speaker 2: got an email about you from Jasmine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: do you mind telling us about why you're ghosting Jasmine?
Speaker 8: Well, Jasmine's great, we have a really cool date. She
Speaker 8: is attractive, lovely. But you know what I have come
Speaker 8: to learn about myself that I am I have a
Speaker 8: lot of momentum in the romance department, and I need
Speaker 8: to cool the jets more often. And so I have
Speaker 8: decided for myself, no matter how good it's going. You know,
Speaker 8: as we're texting and talking beforehand, in the first five minutes, irl,
Speaker 8: if I don't.
Speaker 6: Feel something discernible its spark.
Speaker 8: I got to cut it off because I've gone down
Speaker 8: that road too many times hoping that would come because
Speaker 8: everything else seems so good. And then I'm months into
Speaker 8: a relationship and one you know, I just I'm too
Speaker 8: much of a romantic, so I need to I needed
Speaker 8: to draw.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, I don't like okay, okay, sorry, but it's
Speaker 3: kind of really refreshing to even hear your voice. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, now I'm kind of just like
Speaker 3: I'm really just in shock and taken by everything. If
Speaker 3: you're such a romantic and all of this stuff, wouldn't
Speaker 3: you have been polite to just send me a text
Speaker 3: back or call back and be polite, have, you know,
Speaker 3: like just and communicate let me know what's going on,
Speaker 3: instead of just leaving me out in the dark like that.
Speaker 3: That's really disrespectful. I honestly want to like curse your
Speaker 3: head off right now, but like I'm not going to
Speaker 3: just because I'm actually polite. I don't understand why you
Speaker 3: couldn't have just sent a message. You can go ahead
Speaker 3: and send flowers before, but you can't go ahead and
Speaker 3: send a message after our lovely date that we had
Speaker 3: because you didn't feel as.
Speaker 2: Dark, right, And that's Jasmine's been. She's on the phone
Speaker 2: and wants to talk to you.
Speaker 6: I got that.
Speaker 3: You're so much of a romantic, Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: How are you such a romantic? I hope everybody knows
Speaker 3: who this guy is and honestly doesn't want to be
Speaker 3: with you, because you should be a little bit more
Speaker 3: upfront if you're a romantic, have common turtesty.
Speaker 4: My biggest question for you, Ryan, though, is what made
Speaker 4: you want to buy somebody flowers before you met them
Speaker 4: and talked about family and all those types of things,
Speaker 4: and then like what changed in the moment where you
Speaker 4: felt comfortable doing that and meeting her in real life?
Speaker 3: Well, that is such a coward move to not even
Speaker 3: respond back to me.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 8: Just I'm also pretty non confrontational and I don't like ghosting,
Speaker 8: but it has become a fact in our generation that
Speaker 8: that's just how people handle it. So I thought it
Speaker 8: was better than me explaining all this stuff to you
Speaker 8: about my rule.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but being romantic is being vulnerable and having courage
Speaker 3: and all of that. So I don't even think that's
Speaker 3: what you are. I think you're actually like a narcissist,
Speaker 3: to be honest, if you're going to go ahead and
Speaker 3: like this is like, honestly just unbelievable. You shouldn't love
Speaker 3: bomb people like that. You shouldn't. You shouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: I wish you luck and and somebody I.
Speaker 8: Hear it, desmon, I was embarrassed that I went so
Speaker 8: far before we even.
Speaker 3: Met, and so I just know your howard.
Speaker 6: Responder like double back from that.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well I really hope you learn your lesson
Speaker 3: and don't pull such a coward and move on the
Speaker 3: next person that you try and find a spark with,
Speaker 3: because I could mentally mess with people honestly, Like my
Speaker 3: friends aren't even enough now, Like having to see a
Speaker 3: therapist after this is like where it's leading to, like
Speaker 3: it's a little ridiculous. You should like, don't you can't
Speaker 3: do that stuff. I'm trying to find the love of
Speaker 3: my life here as a person that I'm supposed to
Speaker 3: be with. I think that's what everybody's job is and
Speaker 3: that's what they're trying to do, and you're going over
Speaker 3: here and then just like, oh, let me just like
Speaker 3: fake pretend and love bomb you and all this stuff
Speaker 3: and then just like stop and not talk to you,
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing with your life as a man?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry. I have to jump in again really quick, Jasmine.
Speaker 4: You're right, you shouldn't be ghosting you and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: And if you're in therapy, I think that that's wonderful.
Speaker 4: But that's not entirely his fault.
Speaker 3: How I think that, like, what if you were in
Speaker 3: my position? What if you were like ghosted like that?
Speaker 3: I don't think you understand.
Speaker 4: No, actually I do. I completely understand. I have been
Speaker 4: in your position. It's more about the relationship.
Speaker 5: I'm sure.
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of hurt right now in the situation,
Speaker 3: and it's just like I didn't expect him to even answer.
Speaker 5: I get that.
Speaker 6: We'll just leave it there, Jasmine.
Speaker 8: I want to be really clear. I think you're amazing.
Speaker 8: I had a great time with you. It was it
Speaker 8: was me after our date processing this and realizing, you
Speaker 8: know what, I had gone too far and I didn't
Speaker 8: feel something that I wanted to feel before I proceeded,
Speaker 8: and you deserved better communication about that.
Speaker 6: But that that those are the facts.
Speaker 3: And I didn't want to lead you on or any
Speaker 3: further whatever.
Speaker 5: Ryan, would you like to go on another date with Jasmine?
Speaker 5: We'll pay for it.
Speaker 3: I would like to go on another date with you, Ryan.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, what you would? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I would, absolutely you would. Okay, yes, yeah, what. I'm
Speaker 7: busy tonight, but I.
Speaker 8: Do have a friend who I swear I just I say,
Speaker 8: you came to mind, but we went out. I think
Speaker 8: you guys are actually I can put you in Tosh,
Speaker 8: I swear.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 3: Really okay? Cool?
Speaker 5: All right, well that you guys. Seems like it worked out,
Speaker 5: Thank you, all right? Cool.
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