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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her another date if she still wants one. But first, Jasmine,

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Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Ryan?

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Speaker 2: It's been a week, okay, So have you reached out

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Speaker 2: to him? And that week about how many times.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I've reached out to him? Embarrassingly? Probably

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Speaker 3: over twenty times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a lot. Don't be embarrassed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that.

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Speaker 4: We can all say that that ghosting is definitely happening here.

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, unless he lost his phone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both, Like who can survive without a phone nowadays?

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 2: What were the twenty texts or calls?

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Speaker 5: Like, what did you say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I basically it was it was like more

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Speaker 3: than twenty calls and then just a text. Has just

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Speaker 3: been kind of like I kind of just been kind

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Speaker 3: of writing paragraphs only because him and I basically met

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Speaker 3: we spoke on this app and then before a meeting,

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Speaker 3: we were just he was like hyping me up and

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Speaker 3: just it was almost like love bombing, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: now that I think about it, and now that I've

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Speaker 3: spoken to my friends on it, but he kind of

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Speaker 3: promised me a lot of things, and I guess I

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Speaker 3: was just being really vulnerable. But before we met, he

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Speaker 3: was telling me how pretty I was, and we were

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Speaker 3: going to go to this place and we're going to

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Speaker 3: go to that place. And then when I met him,

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Speaker 3: he was so incredible, so like everything I could even

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Speaker 3: ask for I checked off, Like I don't ever, I

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Speaker 3: don't even know if people have to check box list.

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Speaker 3: I don't, but if I were to have one, he's

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Speaker 3: definitely that person. And he was witty, which is what

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Speaker 3: I love so much. Yeah, when we met at this

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Speaker 3: top bugs bar, and I was just super excited about everything.

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Speaker 3: He paid for the check of course, you know, like

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Speaker 3: any gentleman would, and yeah, I asked him if she

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Speaker 3: was okay after that and absolutely nothing. But before then

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Speaker 3: before we were the day, everything we're just like so

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Speaker 3: many checks. It was like a lot. Like I said,

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Speaker 3: it was like love bombing. And then we go on

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Speaker 3: this date and it's the greatest time of my life.

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Speaker 3: And then I was like okay, like you know, I

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Speaker 3: go ahead and give me a call, because that's like

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Speaker 3: what you do. But he took too long. I was

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Speaker 3: like hey, like are you okay? And then I was

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Speaker 3: just like thanks for the night. And then after that,

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Speaker 3: I've just been like, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: So while you were on the date at the restaurant,

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Speaker 4: it was so perfect, Like can you tell us about that?

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Speaker 4: What were the conversations like, like what did you guys do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was it was like NonStop, like talked

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Speaker 3: talking about going to like Papo, going to like like

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Speaker 5: That's superad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that I would wonder what was going on, but

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Speaker 4: also it'd be kind of flaggy to hear somebody start talking.

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Speaker 5: That way so soon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you do or say anything on the date

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Speaker 4: that may have I don't know, altered the course of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean maybe I like appeared too eager

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Speaker 3: because he's like, yeah, like we'll meet like my parents.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to show you like my grandparents too.

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Speaker 3: And I was just like maybe, like I said, like, yes,

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Speaker 5: That is a lot to go that far, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then now I just think maybe he's like he

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Speaker 3: have wanted the parent dress, but I don't look basic.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, I feel like I picked the

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Speaker 3: Now I feel kind of insecure and just not okay

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Speaker 3: with the right selection that I even picked on my dress.

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Speaker 5: Well not be anything about you at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I understand turning to yourself like what's wrong

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Speaker 3: But like, first date impressions are everything too, you know,

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Speaker 3: have just formed that one, and I just I wore

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Speaker 2: As a guy who's been on dates before, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I would care black or red as long as

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if the color of it, but hey, who knows. Everybody's different. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up.

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Speaker 2: Jasmine is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call him and see if he'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why he's a ghosting her and see if

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Speaker 2: she still wants another date after she hears the reason.

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Speaker 2: But things moved pretty quickly. Jasmine, give a real quick

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Speaker 2: recap for everybody who's just joining us on your situation

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Speaker 2: with Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I feel like this isn't your regular like

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Speaker 3: ghost story. I mean, like this guy sent me flowers

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Speaker 3: before our date. He told me he wanted he told

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Speaker 3: me we wanted to travel together, that I can meet

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Speaker 3: his parents, he paid for the bill. Everything was good,

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Speaker 3: good conversation, and now I absolutely haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 3: And it went from so many messages of flowers to

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Speaker 5: I would want to know. Yeah, I would definitely want

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Speaker 5: to know what's going on. All right, Well, you ready

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Speaker 5: for us to call him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Here we go, Hello him. I seeking to Ryan. Please.

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Speaker 6: This is Ryan, Ryan.

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Speaker 5: How are you man? My name is Jubil from a

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Speaker 5: radio show called The Jebel Show. Hi, Ryan, whole show's here.

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Speaker 5: I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, what's up?

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Speaker 5: Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 3: I have?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Cool?

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Speaker 2: No, Ryan, we're calling you because you went on a

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Speaker 2: date with somebody and you haven't called them back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if you've ever heard a first

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Speaker 2: date follow up before, but that's the segment where if

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Speaker 2: you go out with someone and then ghost them, they

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Speaker 2: ask us to call you and ask why. So we

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Speaker 2: got an email about you from Jasmine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: do you mind telling us about why you're ghosting Jasmine?

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Speaker 8: Well, Jasmine's great, we have a really cool date. She

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Speaker 8: is attractive, lovely. But you know what I have come

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Speaker 8: decided for myself, no matter how good it's going. You know,

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Speaker 8: I got to cut it off because I've gone down

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Speaker 3: Okay, wait, I don't like okay, okay, sorry, but it's

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Speaker 3: kind of really refreshing to even hear your voice. But

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Speaker 3: I'm really just in shock and taken by everything. If

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Speaker 3: That's really disrespectful. I honestly want to like curse your

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Speaker 3: just because I'm actually polite. I don't understand why you

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Speaker 2: Dark, right, And that's Jasmine's been. She's on the phone

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Speaker 6: I got that.

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Speaker 3: You're so much of a romantic, Like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: How are you such a romantic? I hope everybody knows

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Speaker 4: My biggest question for you, Ryan, though, is what made

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Speaker 3: Well, that is such a coward move to not even

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm.

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Speaker 8: Just I'm also pretty non confrontational and I don't like ghosting,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but being romantic is being vulnerable and having courage

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Speaker 3: like this is like, honestly just unbelievable. You shouldn't love

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Speaker 3: I wish you luck and and somebody I.

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Speaker 8: Hear it, desmon, I was embarrassed that I went so

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Speaker 3: Met, and so I just know your howard.

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Speaker 6: Responder like double back from that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well I really hope you learn your lesson

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Speaker 3: because I could mentally mess with people honestly, Like my

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Speaker 3: it's a little ridiculous. You should like, don't you can't

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Speaker 3: Like what are you doing with your life as a man?

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Speaker 4: You're right, you shouldn't be ghosting you and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: And if you're in therapy, I think that that's wonderful.

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Speaker 4: But that's not entirely his fault.

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Speaker 3: How I think that, like, what if you were in

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Speaker 3: my position? What if you were like ghosted like that?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you understand.

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Speaker 4: No, actually I do. I completely understand. I have been

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Speaker 4: in your position. It's more about the relationship.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm just kind of hurt right now in the situation,

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Speaker 3: and it's just like I didn't expect him to even answer.

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Speaker 5: I get that.

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Speaker 6: We'll just leave it there, Jasmine.

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Speaker 8: I want to be really clear. I think you're amazing.

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Speaker 8: I had a great time with you. It was it

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Speaker 8: was me after our date processing this and realizing, you

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Speaker 8: know what, I had gone too far and I didn't

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Speaker 8: feel something that I wanted to feel before I proceeded,

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Speaker 8: and you deserved better communication about that.

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Speaker 6: But that that those are the facts.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't want to lead you on or any

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Speaker 3: further whatever.

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Speaker 5: Ryan, would you like to go on another date with Jasmine?

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Speaker 5: We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 3: I would like to go on another date with you, Ryan.

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, what you would? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I would, absolutely you would. Okay, yes, yeah, what. I'm

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Speaker 7: busy tonight, but I.

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Speaker 8: Do have a friend who I swear I just I say,

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Speaker 8: you came to mind, but we went out. I think

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Speaker 8: you guys are actually I can put you in Tosh,

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Speaker 8: I swear.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 3: Really okay? Cool?

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Speaker 5: All right, well that you guys. Seems like it worked out,

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Speaker 5: Thank you, all right? Cool.

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