Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy melloncamp at Tama Judge, Tama Judge.
Speaker 3: How's it going good? I guess, yeah, that's going on.
Speaker 3: Gained a few pounds?
Speaker 2: You did?
Speaker 3: Happy about that?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I was so excited to jump on the scale because
Speaker 3: me and Sophia have this thing where we have to
Speaker 3: do a minimum of ten thousand steps a day.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: So she's more aggressive about it than I am, which
Speaker 3: is so strange, and so we are, like, I swear
Speaker 3: to God, I feel like it's after every meal, we're
Speaker 3: walking like a mile and a half and.
Speaker 2: I gain weight, well, maybe gaining some muscle.
Speaker 3: No muscle. You don't gain muscle from running and walking.
Speaker 3: You eat muscle from lifting heavyweights.
Speaker 2: It's very no you can do. But you can if
Speaker 2: you haven't done any cardio for a while.
Speaker 3: I do cardio. I do every time I work out.
Speaker 3: Not only am I doing these walks, but when I
Speaker 3: go to the gym in the morning, I'm lifting weights
Speaker 3: and going on the treadmill.
Speaker 2: So you could potentially be gaining muscle.
Speaker 3: No, you don't gain I know a lot about muscle,
Speaker 3: and you don't gain muscle like that, not like overnight
Speaker 3: like that. It's not like all, oh, two days ago,
Speaker 3: I gained three pounds of muscle. It doesn't work like.
Speaker 2: No, Well, I didn't know how long ago eat their way.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you look amazing. You're always I'm not happy
Speaker 2: about it, all right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I went and did something new the other day.
Speaker 2: What'd you do?
Speaker 3: I went to bass pro Shop?
Speaker 2: Oh is that like from bass leg?
Speaker 3: Did you go to bass pro Shop?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like we always see it. Sophie and I were always
Speaker 3: like we're in this weird thing. We're like, let's do
Speaker 3: something new, Let's do this, let's do that, Like, let's
Speaker 3: make like a plan. Like last week we went to
Speaker 3: Universal Studios. So she's like, what are we going to
Speaker 3: do this week? And she's like, let's go to Fast
Speaker 3: Pro Shop. I've seen it online on YouTube and they
Speaker 3: have this huge aquarium in there, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: so we go in. It was pretty freaking cool.
Speaker 2: Where is it.
Speaker 3: There's one in Irvine?
Speaker 2: Oh, they're all over the place.
Speaker 3: They're all over but some of them have like roller
Speaker 3: coasters in them, restaurants in them. It's like being in
Speaker 3: an amusement park. The inside of it, you're just looking
Speaker 3: around at everything. A big wall aquarium with taxidermy everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's huge.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sitting here practically naked in my house because
Speaker 2: the air conditioning went off. No, yes, no, it is
Speaker 2: so hot and Ncina right now like over one hundred degrees.
Speaker 3: It was almost one hundred here in Orange County yesterday.
Speaker 2: And so I'm fully I was like, I'm not even
Speaker 2: bothered and blow drying my hair. I am so hot.
Speaker 2: I pretty much have a sports brawn. So if I
Speaker 2: sound out of breath, I'm not jogging during the pod.
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting in my podcast.
Speaker 3: It is even hot in Big Beer. We have not
Speaker 3: been up there, and this is as long as we've
Speaker 3: gone with that. Going up there, we don't have central
Speaker 3: air and are a lot of cabins up there do
Speaker 3: not have central air, so we only have central heating.
Speaker 3: So we have to add the central air, and that's
Speaker 3: in the line of things we have to do. That's
Speaker 3: like after we're having the house painted next month, then
Speaker 3: we have a gate put around. Then it's a lot
Speaker 3: so we got we went to Costco and got one
Speaker 3: of those free standing air conditioners.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have one of those for the beach house.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then it's got like a tube that goes
Speaker 3: out the window or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it actually does. It works well, it
Speaker 2: works very You have to remember to change the water
Speaker 2: out because if not, at least everywhere doesn't have water.
Speaker 2: Oh look at you, I.
Speaker 3: Fancy.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the fancy, these housewife headlines are a
Speaker 2: lot fancy.
Speaker 3: You're not so fancy.
Speaker 2: This first one is Teresa's husband and Vina Villa ceo
Speaker 2: accused of fraud owes millions to companies. Louis and Marcello,
Speaker 2: who is the CEO of this company, a Switzerland based
Speaker 2: company that aims to help content creators monetized through live streaming,
Speaker 2: are reportedly embroiled in allegations of financial misconduct involving millions
Speaker 2: of dollars owed to employees, companies, vendors agency despite their
Speaker 2: empty business accounts. Despite Louie's claims of no ties with Marcello's,
Speaker 2: sources indicate that the two shared an office space in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Sources revealed that Marcello reportedly instructed employees that
Speaker 2: Louis was an investor. It emerged that Influencer Nation was
Speaker 2: non existent, with no actual investors behind it. Several Swiss
Speaker 2: vendors and contractors reportedly remain unpaid, and the company often
Speaker 2: fails to meet payroll deadlines due to insufficient funds. Who
Speaker 2: knows what this is true? This is all well.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing Louis stand in front of a cyber
Speaker 3: truck that was wrapped in the company logo on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I did get an invitation to the launch party for this. Well,
Speaker 3: good thing you didn't go, but we were filming in London.
Speaker 2: Well, this is on TMZ. But I saw some of
Speaker 2: the internet saluts that have said that their theory, and
Speaker 2: granted this is just random people sliding into my dms,
Speaker 2: is that their theory is that the reason that there
Speaker 2: is no reunion this year is because they do not
Speaker 2: want the entire reunion based on whatever's happening in Louis
Speaker 2: Company and these allegations.
Speaker 3: Bullshit, bullship, bullshit, bullshit. They don't need a reunion because
Speaker 3: half the cast is getting fired, right, true, Well happening.
Speaker 2: This next one? And do you want to take it with.
Speaker 3: Jacqueline Jacqueline Lareda accuses Melissa Gorga of manipulating her on
Speaker 3: the latest episode of Turning the Tables with Teresa that's
Speaker 3: Teresa's new podcast. In case you didn't know, Jacqueline states,
Speaker 3: my husband said at the law the last reunion, Melissa
Speaker 3: and Joe kind of turned us against Teresa. They were
Speaker 3: manipulated by making me feel bad for her. Come on,
Speaker 3: I'm Jacqueline, I'm sorry, I'm not buying this. Then they
Speaker 3: would tell me things that you maybe were saying behind
Speaker 3: my back. Teresa responded, if I distanced myself, it was
Speaker 3: because we were so close and you knew what was
Speaker 3: going on there. I don't like to fight, I really don't,
Speaker 3: and that's why I distant myself. I thought you would
Speaker 3: know why I was distancing myself. Jacqueline responded, I think
Speaker 3: that's what was hard. Because we were on the show.
Speaker 3: Melissa was at a couple of the parties. I could
Speaker 3: care less to talk to her. I wouldn't even bother
Speaker 3: with her. But because we're now all casted on a.
Speaker 4: Show, I know between you didn't care lest Jacqueline and
Speaker 4: cast cast on the show, we're all faced with each other.
Speaker 4: It's like, how do we juggle this so it became
Speaker 4: a problem. Teresa's response, We should have talked about it more,
Speaker 4: but we just didn't. I didn't want you to think that, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: not by my decision.
Speaker 3: Is that what she said?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like at this point they're
Speaker 2: just rehashing such old stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, And there's nothing
Speaker 3: worse than to say to somebody, Oh, well, she was
Speaker 3: in my ear, or she told me, or she convinced
Speaker 3: me this is from twenty sixteen, or she hasn't been
Speaker 3: on Jacqueline has not been on the show since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a long This is like I
Speaker 2: was nine years ago, and like we're still talking about it.
Speaker 3: But she's done this before a little bit, I think. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know Jacqueline now lives in Orange County.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well this next one is not from a
Speaker 2: long time ago. It's allegedly recent.
Speaker 3: Real I think it's from twenty ten, but it's now
Speaker 3: becoming recent. It's all old allegations.
Speaker 2: Old allegations, but TMZ is now reporting on this. Real
Speaker 2: Housewives of Saltic City star Lisa Barlow sued for four
Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand and unpaid loans. According to Bart,
Speaker 2: he loaned Lisa, Vita and Lucks a total four hundred
Speaker 2: and ten thousand, eight hundred and forty two dollars money.
Speaker 2: He says he's asked why.
Speaker 3: Times eight hundred and forty two in the thirty.
Speaker 2: Thirty six cents? Don't forget that thirty six? Why?
Speaker 3: Why is there thirty six cents?
Speaker 2: They really needed the extra thirty six cents. I'll throw
Speaker 2: them thirty six pennies to stop talking about it.
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and forty two and thirty six cents, But
Speaker 3: he says every time he's asked for the money, Lisa
Speaker 3: has allegedly responded by saying there's no way for her
Speaker 3: to get companies to pay him back, and now he
Speaker 3: wants some help from a judge to get what he
Speaker 3: claims he's owed.
Speaker 2: Now, this is the update from TMZ or Lisa Barlowe.
Speaker 3: Let me just interrupt. This is what's confusing. If you
Speaker 3: loan somebody money, there's a paper trail of it and
Speaker 3: it's written up.
Speaker 2: I mean, so I don't really under I think the
Speaker 2: problem is supposedly Bart Carlson, who claims he's been a
Speaker 2: longtime friend of Lisa, who knows the way they did
Speaker 2: the loan. Then you know what I mean when people.
Speaker 3: This is like fourteen years later, he's he's.
Speaker 2: Coming for it, but Shane having it. Lisa tells TMZ
Speaker 2: Bart Carlson was once a business partner in a restaurant
Speaker 2: in Park City, and I thought, a friend, I'm deeply
Speaker 2: sadden that he has decided, nine years after a restaurant
Speaker 2: business ceased, to claim that I owe him money. To
Speaker 2: be very clear, the claim that I owe Bart or
Speaker 2: his company money is un true. I pay my bills
Speaker 2: and obligations always half. In addition, Bart has no interest
Speaker 2: in Lux Marketing or Vita Tequila and did not invest
Speaker 2: in either business. I look forward to the truth coming
Speaker 2: out and intend to hold Bart fully accountable for any
Speaker 2: damage this personal attack may cause me or my businesses.
Speaker 2: So we're just gonna have to let this play out.
Speaker 2: There's no point for us to event now that it's
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 3: And there's lots of lawsuits going on, lots of lawsuits.
Speaker 3: The newcomer Kelly Ferrell, she's a restraining order battle with
Speaker 3: her step daughter, which is pretty nasty. I think, like,
Speaker 3: why we don't even know who Kelly is yet, right,
Speaker 3: do we.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know who Kelly is.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what happens as soon as you get
Speaker 3: on reality TV. People get the shovel out and they
Speaker 3: start digging now. Kelly Ferrell and her stepdaughter made shocking
Speaker 3: allegations against each other in court before she was cast
Speaker 3: on Real House Bays in Atlanta. Kelly was married from twenty
Speaker 3: eleven to twenty twenty two. The exes are in a
Speaker 3: battle of a bitter divorce. Her stepdaughter filed for temporary
Speaker 3: protective order in June twenty twenty two. Her stepdaughter accused
Speaker 3: Kelly of having made many threats to me, stating she
Speaker 3: will beat me up and get someone to do it.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like, yeah, Kelly, Kelly's gonna have a
Speaker 3: lot to answer to right out the bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it goes on and on and on,
Speaker 2: but we'll just let it. We'll let it play out
Speaker 2: and we'll switch from Real House of Atlanta right over
Speaker 2: to Potomac because Kierana Stewart sues Williams for assault and
Speaker 2: battery over Real Housewives of Potona season eight fight Kiarana.
Speaker 2: There was an explosive fight. Part of it was featured
Speaker 2: on season eight of Potomac, but then other parts were
Speaker 2: leaked online. The lawsuit alleges that Debra has been making
Speaker 2: inflammatory comments all night about Canas Diller's husband Chris. Deborah
Speaker 2: allegedly picked up a heavy glass filled with the beverage
Speaker 2: and attempted to pour it on Canvas's head, with the
Speaker 2: contents making their way onto Kiana. Kiana is also alleging
Speaker 2: that the now empty glass hit her in the forehead,
Speaker 2: causing a serious laceration, with two then engaging in an altercation.
Speaker 2: According to court documents, Kianna had to receive stitches, now
Speaker 2: has a permanent scar and is looking for Is that
Speaker 2: ten thousand or ten ten million?
Speaker 3: That's what I was like, Are you kidding me? Ten million?
Speaker 3: This is this makes the whole case such a joke.
Speaker 2: Ten million million dollars for the stitches, hold on ten
Speaker 2: million dollars in damages for the mental and physical anguish
Speaker 2: associated God. Deborah, for her part, has pleaded not guilty
Speaker 2: and is denying all allegations of the complaint.
Speaker 3: I mean, God, but you're not going to get ten
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Where are you getting this ten million dollars?
Speaker 3: It's from her mental physical anguish like she may have
Speaker 3: mental may but not ten million dollars. This is a
Speaker 3: money grab. By the way, does she have ten million dollars?
Speaker 2: I don't have ten million dollars? No, neither do I,
Speaker 2: So don't bother trying to sue me ten million. Let's
Speaker 2: keep the number a little lower. She well.
Speaker 3: Queen's of Bravo posts Brooks Marks, Riley burs and Arianna Burman.
Speaker 3: That's Kim's daughter filming for their new Bravo reality series,
Speaker 3: Making It in Manhattan with Meredith Marx. Now, I did
Speaker 3: hear that? Who else is in it? Gia? I heard
Speaker 3: you this as well, but she is not mentioned in it.
Speaker 3: So that's curious.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe because she's not at this dinner table, but yeah,
Speaker 2: picture or we just can't see.
Speaker 3: So making It in Manhattan? Now, I know that BROV
Speaker 3: has been wanting to do a kids knock off show
Speaker 3: since season three of Orange County.
Speaker 2: I'm might be okay with missing this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might be a well, I guess she was there,
Speaker 3: but there was no picks according to Queens of bravow,
Speaker 3: so so she was there. Uh?
Speaker 2: This next one, Lisa vander Pump comments on what she
Speaker 2: thinks about Kyle Richards and Morgan Wade on the Not
Speaker 2: Skinny but Not Fat podcast, That's how.
Speaker 3: I feel right now Not Skinny but Not Fat.
Speaker 2: A host Amanda Hirsch asks, you are so close with Kyle.
Speaker 2: Lisa responds, well, I thought I was, yeah, but obviously
Speaker 2: not friendship. Amanda asked, did you ever say what you
Speaker 2: thought of her and Morgan. Lisa responds, oh, the young
Speaker 2: woman she's having an affair with. I did say I
Speaker 2: don't care who she's munching on. Does anybody care? Really? Lisa,
Speaker 2: clearly you do, because you're still talking about it and
Speaker 2: now we're having to recap it.
Speaker 3: Well inference she was asked, So it wasn't like she
Speaker 3: just came out with it so right.
Speaker 2: But there's you know, we all know there's a way
Speaker 2: to be diplomatic in your answer, and there's a way
Speaker 2: to I don't think.
Speaker 3: There's anything diplomatic between those two when they talk about
Speaker 3: each other. But this is this is a low blow.
Speaker 2: I think this is a low blow, especially because I
Speaker 2: think all of us that were together on Real Housewives
Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills knows a lot of skeletons that are
Speaker 2: in Lisa's closet, and I don't see people throwing those out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but did make a good point and that she
Speaker 3: said something like people aren't interested in what you're doing,
Speaker 3: They're interested in what you're hiding. And that is a
Speaker 3: very true point. And I'm not saying Kyle's hyden anything,
Speaker 3: but people are They speculate when they think you're hiding something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, But I think if you're on a
Speaker 2: reality television show, people are going to speculate regard period that.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at us, we have gone through all
Speaker 2: these We didn't know who half the people we were
Speaker 2: talking about so far on the Running Down because they
Speaker 2: haven't even aired yet, and we're speculating on them, speculating.
Speaker 3: We're just reading headlines. So if you don't want us
Speaker 3: to talk about you, don't be in the headline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just stay out of the headlines. And then
Speaker 2: now I probably won't see you on any shows anytime soon. Oh,
Speaker 2: this one's I guess, pretty exciting. Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence
Speaker 2: is going to start in an a twenty four murder
Speaker 2: mystery film titled The Wives for Apple TV. The draws
Speaker 2: inspiration from the Real Housewives reality franchise.
Speaker 3: What do you think that means?
Speaker 2: I think that it's going just to be a show
Speaker 2: that's loosely based on real housewives. It's going to be
Speaker 2: cast with actual.
Speaker 3: Actors where they actually kill people.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe instead of just throwing glasses at each other
Speaker 2: and shoving each other, that are actually going to kill
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 3: I was really excited on this tour in Universal Studios,
Speaker 3: we went by the Desperate Housewife set. It's still there.
Speaker 3: It is, yes, with stealing my I love. I almost
Speaker 3: want to go back and binge watch.
Speaker 2: Oh. I feel like I can't bear remember that show.
Speaker 2: So I feel like we need you as well.
Speaker 3: Well, they came, it came out, and then shortly, I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe a year later. I'm not positive on this.
Speaker 3: Then the Housewives came out, so it was we definitely
Speaker 3: piggybacked on Desperate Housewives for sure.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see this movie. And I love
Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence. I also am I'm excited because we are
Speaker 2: having Jesse Solomon on this one.
Speaker 3: Well, we have some questions to ask you, buddy, what's
Speaker 3: going on with Bran Whitfield.
Speaker 2: What is going on? Like they look pretty happy in
Speaker 2: this pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's it's like a group of people I
Speaker 3: don't exactly know where they're hanging out at, but you
Speaker 3: know how the the interwew loves to create stories that
Speaker 3: are not there.
Speaker 2: But this is a hot couple. I will say that
Speaker 2: if they did decide to make out at the end
Speaker 2: of this night, I wouldn't be mad at it.
Speaker 3: They kind of look like brother and sister. They look
Speaker 3: at not can you not why when I.
Speaker 2: See them making out, I'm not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: get that out of my head.
Speaker 3: They both have big, giant smiles.
Speaker 2: They're exciting thing about this relationship, which we don't know
Speaker 2: if it's a relationship, a situationship, or no ship. They're
Speaker 2: just randomly at the same function as they could both
Speaker 2: be on each other's shows. Like I think brand would
Speaker 2: be so good on Summer House and so he it
Speaker 2: would be great to see Brend dating him on It's going.
Speaker 3: To be like the crossover of Craig and Paige.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is it? What is it? The kids
Speaker 2: say we ship this relationship ship it.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that one yet. I heard this, but
Speaker 3: Lifetime set summer series Outrageous Love with Nini Leeks. So
Speaker 3: according to Deadline article, Lee's will leaks will appear on
Speaker 3: in Outrageous Love, premiering July first at ten pm. The
Speaker 3: show will highlight the ups and downs of couples love
Speaker 3: lives in commentary by Leaks, who will also draw from
Speaker 3: her life experience to give additional insight. So this is
Speaker 3: like a love island. What is it?
Speaker 2: I don't really know.
Speaker 3: I love island knockoff? Maybe no, congratulations Nini. She hasn't
Speaker 3: been on TV for a hot second. So we're so
Speaker 3: they're still hope, Teddy.
Speaker 2: Please please every Bravo icon appearing on watch What Happens
Speaker 2: Live fifteenth Anniversary special.
Speaker 3: Okay, because oh I am not on that list. There
Speaker 3: is nobody from Warrenet County on that list.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, so let's see who's on the list. Enws
Speaker 2: can exclusively reveal the star studded list of celebrities and
Speaker 2: reality star are set to appear and watch What Happened
Speaker 2: Live Andy Cones fifteen anniversary special, joining host Andy. We've
Speaker 2: got Portia Williams, Phedra Parks, lou Adela SEPs Sonia Morgan,
Speaker 2: Teresa Milania, Jeff Lewis.
Speaker 3: Milania made the list. I didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow?
Speaker 3: Thanks Andy.
Speaker 2: If anyone should have a bill ot rough today. It
Speaker 2: should be utam thanks.
Speaker 3: I was invited to the actual party in New York
Speaker 3: but couldn't make it. But I guess I'm not Jerio
Speaker 3: iconic enough Andy's parents.
Speaker 2: I think I saw Sheena was there on her insta story,
Speaker 2: so who knows who else will be popping up? But
Speaker 2: apparently not.
Speaker 3: Wait did they already do it? They already filmed it.
Speaker 2: I think they already filmed it. Oh yeah, they say
Speaker 2: they filmed the same week as the party.
Speaker 3: Evelyn and Lou made it.
Speaker 2: Evelyn and Lou get it. Evelyn. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 2: take a quick break and we'll come back and recap
Speaker 2: episode eight. On Watch What Happens Live, Andy brought up
Speaker 2: Rachel calling Teresa a husband, to which Rachel doubles down.
Speaker 2: Andy defends Teresa and says she's booked and busy, to
Speaker 2: which Rachel then says Teresa is maybe too famous for
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: Okay, give me your opinion on this, because first of all,
Speaker 3: she's not a has been and she is busy. She
Speaker 3: is booked and busy, and I do think that these
Speaker 3: housewife shows are really driven by the ogs of each show.
Speaker 2: I just wish. I mean, I think when Andy. You
Speaker 2: can always tell by Andy's response when he like fully
Speaker 2: doesn't agree with your answer.
Speaker 3: He did not agree with his answer.
Speaker 2: He did not agree with this answer. He wasn't having it.
Speaker 3: I think that Rachel was thrown off when Andy's Andy
Speaker 3: challenged her and said she's booked him busy. I think
Speaker 3: Rachel went, oh shit, what do I say now? I
Speaker 3: think that she regrets saying that, Oh, she's too famous.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's too famous.
Speaker 2: Too famous? She wrought somebody to be too famous on
Speaker 2: the show, right, more people tune in?
Speaker 3: That was not a good one, Rachel.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Rachel, watching the best one that don't watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Live was a little bit awkward for me all
Speaker 2: in all.
Speaker 3: Oh that comedian? Is she a comedian?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's on Saturday Night Live. Who I love her?
Speaker 2: But I was wondering also, and she was first seat.
Speaker 2: I was gonna, well, Rachel for a housewife to be
Speaker 2: second seat to too? Yeah? Mm hmm uh any any
Speaker 2: any who, let's get to some spiritual healing. Teresa, jen
Speaker 2: Aiden Dolores do spiritual healing. DeLaura says Jackie thinks she's
Speaker 2: better than them, and she's using Teresa for book sales.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's for book sales. I think she's
Speaker 2: using Teresa to be on the show. So let's be clear.
Speaker 2: Teresa says she doesn't care about Jackie, she just wants
Speaker 2: to use her to expose Margaret. Jen says Jackie is
Speaker 2: the gate keeper to Margaret's arsenal? Were you surprised that
Speaker 2: Teresa openly admitted that she's using Jackie on Watch What
Speaker 2: Happens Like? Rachel says Jackie is now the laughing stock
Speaker 2: of Bravo.
Speaker 3: I cannot believe that Teresa actually admitted that, honestly, Like
Speaker 3: I actually feel now I suddenly feel bad for Jackie
Speaker 3: because I feel like she's trying to do the most
Speaker 3: in trying to be a little bit shocking by switching
Speaker 3: friend groups, and now all of a sudden, she's laugh
Speaker 3: People are laughing at her because people didn't believe it
Speaker 3: in the first place.
Speaker 2: No, no one believed it.
Speaker 3: But also, so how is she going to move forward?
Speaker 3: I I guess we will not find out at the reunion.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jackie said on Watchwork Happens Live that she
Speaker 2: doesn't care and she's happy with the decision she's made.
Speaker 2: But remember when an her head.
Speaker 3: Yes she did, and she was like a few episodes, well,
Speaker 3: I wonder how she feels now. I would love to
Speaker 3: get her on the pod just say like, what are
Speaker 3: your thoughts now?
Speaker 2: Well, also, then they talk a little bit about what
Speaker 2: was in the card with that Teresa and Louie gave
Speaker 2: to Melissa and Joe and all I kept thinking of Teresa,
Speaker 2: what a missed opportunity. So do you remember back in
Speaker 2: the day of early Jersey, Melissa wrote in the card
Speaker 2: when Teresa had to renovate her home, she said, congrats
Speaker 2: on your redone home.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.
Speaker 2: Well, at this point, that's what they should have written
Speaker 2: in the card back to Joe, because the redone home
Speaker 2: because everyone made fun of how it looked the first time,
Speaker 2: so they had to redo it.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they redid the outside right and they
Speaker 3: just added onto the porch. I didn't know what they did,
Speaker 3: but yeah, well he built it from scratch. That house
Speaker 3: is freaking in I mean, it looks absolutely beautiful. Now.
Speaker 3: Teresa said Louis was behind sending the bottle because it
Speaker 3: would be a nice gesture. Do you think that's why
Speaker 3: he sent it or do you think that it was
Speaker 3: you know what, let's do this. This is an iconic
Speaker 3: move because you know, when I send this bottle over there,
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna be talking.
Speaker 2: I think that it was a smart move on their part,
Speaker 2: because in case there was a moment, I mean, I
Speaker 2: watching What Happens Live, Rachel said it was Jim Leonard's idea.
Speaker 2: Teresa's lawyer and Andy didn't seem happy with that response either,
Speaker 2: but I think they just thought, great, let's give them
Speaker 2: something to talk about. So here we go. So even
Speaker 2: though we're not going to be at that party, will
Speaker 2: be at that party because that'll be the words on
Speaker 2: everybody's mouth. Yeah, but I don't know. Then Melissa's having
Speaker 2: a fashion show for her store and Danielle comes to
Speaker 2: help pick the outfits. Melissa thanks, Jen and Teresa are
Speaker 2: mad at Danielle for being her friend. Danielle says Jackie
Speaker 2: will need psychiatric help on playing both.
Speaker 3: You know what, I had to laugh at Danielle's comment
Speaker 3: about Jackie. Blink twice if they're holding you hostage, Blink twice, Danielle.
Speaker 3: I you know what, Danielle's not always been my favorite.
Speaker 3: I haven't disliked her, but she hasn't always been my
Speaker 3: favorite on the show and today I last night was
Speaker 3: siding with her.
Speaker 2: I want too, but also we have to give a
Speaker 2: little I know oftentimes we just talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: some of the negative things we notice. But props to
Speaker 2: Melissa because having a boucheek for almost ten years.
Speaker 3: Has it been that long?
Speaker 2: Yes, it's amazing, Like that's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had cut fitness for ten years. It's a
Speaker 3: it's a mile. Yeah that's twenty fifteen, especially a brick
Speaker 3: and mortar business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's huge. So congratulations.
Speaker 3: I was actually on Melissa's website the other day, envy website,
Speaker 3: because I had never been on it, and oh no,
Speaker 3: I was on it one other time and just because
Speaker 3: I'm going to Cabo. So I was just looking for
Speaker 3: some cute dresses. I'm kind of over revolved. I can't.
Speaker 2: I know, there's nothing to find.
Speaker 3: It's it's the same shit over and over again. What's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 2: Revolve, revolve, step it up.
Speaker 3: Step it up. I need some new shit.
Speaker 2: Then Margaret goes to Rachel's house. Rachel says her and
Speaker 2: Margaret have gotten closer since everything happened with Janfessler. Margaret
Speaker 2: says Jackie is a psycho, talking shit about her to Lauras.
Speaker 2: She says she could have sent everything Jackie said for
Speaker 2: the past six years. Rachel doesn't think Margaret sharing the
Speaker 2: text was a good look and says she shouldn't share anymore.
Speaker 2: I liked that Rachel said that to her. I find
Speaker 2: it hard to believe that Jackie was solely talking shit
Speaker 2: and Margaret doesn't ever talk shit back. Like if we're
Speaker 2: talking shit together, Tamera, it's not like I respond, you're
Speaker 2: not responding.
Speaker 3: Here's something I don't know if you know, but Margaret
Speaker 3: and Delores are like best friends. It's weird because it
Speaker 3: doesn't show it on the show, but they're really really
Speaker 3: I don't know, best but they're really good friends and
Speaker 3: talk all the time. Is from what I've been told.
Speaker 3: So they talk every day for hours. So I just
Speaker 3: I don't understand it. But evidently, according to Margaret, she
Speaker 3: said she the only thing she talked about was Polly
Speaker 3: not being divorced, which is pretty much something we're all
Speaker 3: talking about right now. Yeah, say somebody hates that you
Speaker 3: hate them because they didn't tag you and that they
Speaker 3: were a slob.
Speaker 2: I think that just goes from feeling like I think
Speaker 2: as much as Jackie has tried to give the illusion
Speaker 2: that she's happy being a friend of and she's cool
Speaker 2: with the way things are. I think it clearly was
Speaker 2: eating her alive, and she was confiding and Margaret and
Speaker 2: her insecurities about it. And I don't use insecurity as
Speaker 2: like a weaponizing word, like I think there's all things
Speaker 2: that we feel insecure about in our lives from time
Speaker 2: to time. Yeah, and she's trying to kind of work
Speaker 2: through it, but she's kind of doing it.
Speaker 3: But let me ask you your honest opinion. Do you think
Speaker 3: Margaret sharing the text in this situation went too far.
Speaker 2: I think Margaret could have just said to Dolores in
Speaker 2: front of Jackie, yeah, she said these things about it.
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is is once you actually share a
Speaker 3: text message and not like to use it against somebody,
Speaker 3: if you're like going within a group and sharing text
Speaker 3: messages unless they're in their entirety like you.
Speaker 2: It's really gets at It's a slippery slope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so it's just not if you're Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's how it's done. If it's something nice
Speaker 3: about somebody, okay, that's not bad. But if it's something
Speaker 3: that's gonna.
Speaker 2: Or if it's something to prove a point, like yeah,
Speaker 2: you said nine am at this time, Yes, yes, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah showing that. But I think every housewife or
Speaker 2: friend of or whoever it is that have been on
Speaker 2: any of these shows have talked shit on text messages
Speaker 2: with other people from their cast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: Once you open that can of worms, it could really
Speaker 2: get bad. But that's I mean, that's why Margaret says
Speaker 2: she doesn't write things in text.
Speaker 3: She calls, well, she's smart. We have a few people
Speaker 3: on our cast that never put anything in text. I am.
Speaker 3: I just say how I feel. I don't really care. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's called get bad, like our text messages if they.
Speaker 2: Know we're done. If our text messages were to get
Speaker 2: out there, it was nice knowing everyone. Well. Then Dolores
Speaker 2: and Paul work out. Delora says she needs to get
Speaker 2: plastic surgery. Paul says she's not allowed to. She says
Speaker 2: Paul can't tell her what to do. Delores says she
Speaker 2: had no idea Jackie hated her, but I know she
Speaker 2: said that. But I don't think that Dolores is ever
Speaker 2: really like Jackie, if I'm being honest. She always says
Speaker 2: she knows better than everyone else. And then Delora says,
Speaker 2: Jackie is a nuclear bomb being squeezed by Teresa. Have
Speaker 2: you has your husband ever questioned your choices about surgery?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I have a confession. M something horrible,
Speaker 3: tragic has happened to me. What I need surgery? What
Speaker 3: botox is doing me dirty?
Speaker 2: It's not working.
Speaker 3: It's not working. It's actually doing the opposite. No matter
Speaker 3: where I get shot in my forehead, I'm.
Speaker 2: Making droop, making it droop.
Speaker 3: And we even we know that. And I've been going
Speaker 3: to the same person, doctor Amby's office, for years, and
Speaker 3: she said, I have to be honest with you. At
Speaker 3: a certain age, certain people. I have a handful of
Speaker 3: people where it just doesn't work any the work the
Speaker 3: way it's supposed to. Now, under my eyes it works,
Speaker 3: but the forehead, anywhere we touch on my forehead, my eyes, bros.
Speaker 3: Just drop.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Let me remind you I had a lower facelift, but
Speaker 3: I never had anything done from the you know, eyebrows up,
Speaker 3: and only because doctor Amby just doesn't like doing that.
Speaker 3: It's just not his specialty. So I talked to his associate,
Speaker 3: which is doctor Molds, and he said yeah, you could
Speaker 3: use one. Your eyebrows are getting really heavy. And I said, okay,
Speaker 3: let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's do tell Eddie.
Speaker 3: So I told Eddie's like, no, what do you doing? No,
Speaker 3: you're gonna look this way. And he's like and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not. He's like, but He's like, do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: But I think every husband will always say, now, you
Speaker 3: don't need that.
Speaker 2: I think every husband will say, you don't need it.
Speaker 2: I didn't love the tone in which paul said it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's one thing to be like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 2: look amazing, but he was like, you do that, You're
Speaker 2: not gonna be with me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a little But see with Paulie, I'm
Speaker 3: not knowing is that truly how he feels there is
Speaker 3: does sometimes when people have a camera in front of them,
Speaker 3: they just talk just to answer instead of just being young, okay, whatever,
Speaker 3: do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: And plus who knows, like what tonally what it is.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, paul you not getting a divorce after
Speaker 2: forty seven years and now telling Dolores what she can
Speaker 2: and can't do with her body. It's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a red flag for me. Buddy, take a couple
Speaker 2: of breaths.
Speaker 3: But I will say Jackie's getting her ass handed to
Speaker 3: her in this episode.
Speaker 2: Oh, her ass has already been removed, handed to her,
Speaker 2: given back, passed around.
Speaker 3: Thrown away. The fire dancers are thrown in there. It's
Speaker 3: just the glitter.
Speaker 2: Couldn't even nobody's.
Speaker 3: Taken her serious?
Speaker 2: Now well no, Then we see Resa getting ready to
Speaker 2: host the Tipsy and Taloom party. And you may not
Speaker 2: have noticed this, but I wanted to ask how in
Speaker 2: the world Gia could put her makeup on in that
Speaker 2: in that mirror in the dark mirror with the spot
Speaker 2: Well it was.
Speaker 3: That antiqued mirror there was yeah, yeah, I love those mirrors.
Speaker 2: But the mirrors are beautiful.
Speaker 3: But the whole time, because she's twenty two, that's why.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even see. But then she came out looking stunning.
Speaker 2: So but as she's getting ready, Teresa tells Louis and
Speaker 2: Gia that Jackie needs to realize how evil Margaret is
Speaker 2: and be on her side. If not, they can't be friends.
Speaker 2: Danielle says Jin is hating on her left and right.
Speaker 2: Jen says Danielle is tacky and selfish. Does Teresa really
Speaker 2: love the Buddha bar and tuloom or can someone explain
Speaker 2: to me what the giant Buddha head has to do
Speaker 2: with balloon talloom.
Speaker 3: They have a lot of buddhaheads and taloom. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: a very kind of chill, yoga kind of place.
Speaker 2: I have to say. Some of the outfit choices were
Speaker 2: a little confusing to me. For the tuluon party, it
Speaker 2: also appeared to be freezing.
Speaker 3: I love Teresa's outfit. I felt like that was very
Speaker 3: fitting for time. Oh yeah, well she had jen Aiden.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what she was wearing.
Speaker 3: But how do you feel about Gia getting involved? She's
Speaker 3: twenty two now and she was getting involved in the drama.
Speaker 3: Do you think that, Like, do you like that?
Speaker 2: Or I don't mind it? Either way, I would assume
Speaker 2: you know, at this time, she's been doing the show
Speaker 2: for so many years.
Speaker 3: She was a baby. Now. The line that we hate
Speaker 3: to hear on Housewives, Ga said there shouldn't be any drama. Mom.
Speaker 2: We know that's not happening, but.
Speaker 3: I'm seeing a pattern. One side talks about Teresa and
Speaker 3: the other side talks about Margaret, but then they never
Speaker 3: filmed together.
Speaker 2: Right, which then like, I have to say, I miss
Speaker 2: not having like Melissa or Rachel or Margaret at this party.
Speaker 2: Like I think that even if they just show up
Speaker 2: to the parties and like don't talk to the actual hope,
Speaker 2: we got to figure out a way that you're just
Speaker 2: attending the parties. But Jackie says she always thought that
Speaker 2: Margaret was a good person, and Teresa says she's a
Speaker 2: horrible person.
Speaker 3: Me what Margaret did to Teresa, it's so bad.
Speaker 2: Oh set up the meeting before the reunion to acceed.
Speaker 3: We all do that. We all talk.
Speaker 2: I think everybody talks. But I think whatever it was
Speaker 2: that she was trying to, I don't know. To be honest,
Speaker 2: I don't really care. In her mind, she thinks Marge
Speaker 2: is trying to take Louie down, and she led the
Speaker 2: charge against Louie last year.
Speaker 3: Listen, guys, if you think for one second that people
Speaker 3: that are not on certain I don't want to call
Speaker 3: it teams, but they are closest on a show and
Speaker 3: there's a lot of drama going on. If you think
Speaker 3: that they don't talk before reunion, you're crazy. They do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's how it works. Jen Sessler is being quite the
Speaker 3: flip flopper.
Speaker 2: No, I noticed that she did this. When did you
Speaker 2: hear when She's like, oh, I want to go on
Speaker 2: a jet to Tuloom and Teresa's like, well next time,
Speaker 2: and then Jen goes bye bye Margaret. I know she
Speaker 2: got she goes to Margaret who.
Speaker 3: Margaret who? That kind of made me cringed, Jen, she's
Speaker 3: your friend. You can't be the social climber like that.
Speaker 2: And it's one thing if they were all friends at
Speaker 2: this point, and she made a joke like if it
Speaker 2: would be like me, you and I'm just giving an
Speaker 2: example me, you and Emily standing there and one of
Speaker 2: you offered me something that the other one didn't. And
Speaker 2: I was like, you were standing there and I was
Speaker 2: like bye damn.
Speaker 3: Like it's like yes, it's like how they're talking about
Speaker 3: going to wherever on a private jet and I'm like, by.
Speaker 2: Tina, yeah, yeah, it just it happens. But like in
Speaker 2: that circumstance.
Speaker 3: I think she was trying to be funny, but it
Speaker 3: didn't come up.
Speaker 2: Very funny and came up barn.
Speaker 3: Now do you think that Margaret, Rachel, and Melissa were
Speaker 3: sitting by their phones waiting for a text or an
Speaker 3: update about what was going on at that party.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they got it the second that Danielle got
Speaker 2: those car cams away. But this is one of This
Speaker 2: is why I love Dolores. Jackie pulls Dolores to talk.
Speaker 2: Jackie says she didn't know what to say when Margaret
Speaker 2: sent the screenshots. Delores says she's not ready to buy this.
Speaker 2: Jackie says the real bad guy is Margaret, and she
Speaker 2: doesn't think she can forgive her. Delores says some friendships
Speaker 2: need a break, and hers and Jackie's does. My question
Speaker 2: is why is Jackie spending all her time talking about
Speaker 2: Margaret not actually truly apologizing to Dolores.
Speaker 3: She's afraid she knows she's been caught. But did you
Speaker 3: catch Jackie to Teresa's daughter when she walked in what
Speaker 3: she said? No, when I do press, everybody is obsessed
Speaker 3: with me and your mom.
Speaker 2: Oh, that just kind of.
Speaker 3: A little bit verifies to me that she's kind of
Speaker 3: fangirling over Teresa.
Speaker 2: Well, I think she, I know, I think she's just
Speaker 2: wanting to be in the mix and the girl with
Speaker 2: the girls. I don't think. I don't think anybody's the
Speaker 2: it girls really in this group at this point. But
Speaker 2: I think she I think she's just stuck and she's
Speaker 2: trying to find her way out. But the odd man
Speaker 2: out is never good.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, as we're talking about Jackie and Jina,
Speaker 2: make sure to tune into Two Jersey podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, Jay, so you'll they could probably clarify things
Speaker 3: for you a lot better for us. We watch as viewers,
Speaker 3: so we're just you know, I'm sure there's a lot
Speaker 3: that we don't know or don't see, so that's why.
Speaker 2: But one of the questions is Jackie trying too hard
Speaker 2: to spend this on Margaret rather than just take accountability. Listen, Jackie,
Speaker 2: as Joranda Medley once said, say it, forget it, write it,
Speaker 2: regret it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or what Dolores says, let somebody destroy themselves. Nobody
Speaker 3: does it better?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Delores' is Listen. I've always loved Dolores, but this
Speaker 2: season is.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that. Yeah, I think this season so
Speaker 3: or this episode. In last episode, Jackie not really taking
Speaker 3: responsibility for what she actually put in writing, and she's
Speaker 3: more so blaming Margaret for exposing the text. She did
Speaker 3: it on Watch What Happens Live. She did it like
Speaker 3: she shouldn't. Even if you're going to text it to somebody,
Speaker 3: especially come out with the cast. I think twice. I
Speaker 3: think twice about what I text to my cast members, because.
Speaker 2: Why at that point, once you've gotten busted, be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Like at that point you say I
Speaker 2: was so I already felt so embarrassed because I was
Speaker 2: a friend of and I was having these moments and
Speaker 2: I said that and it was gross and I regret
Speaker 2: it and blah blah blah. Like take that approach, like, how.
Speaker 3: Is Margaret to blame for what Jackie actually text? You
Speaker 3: have to take responsibility and throwing in there, well for
Speaker 3: her doing that, that's terrible. No, let's just how about
Speaker 3: you just say, yeah, I said that.
Speaker 2: I don't think the book I was mad that with
Speaker 2: Margaret is while you're trying to do an apology with Dolores,
Speaker 2: do I think her and Margaret she have a conversation
Speaker 2: and say, yes, you you know I can no longer
Speaker 2: trust you again because these are our private conversations that
Speaker 2: you know, we were friends for six years and had
Speaker 2: and now you did this to me. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: That's one thing.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Jackie knows there's just no way out
Speaker 3: of it, Like she just she's been exposed, and now
Speaker 3: it's like, what do I do. Well, I'm going to
Speaker 3: throw Margaret under the bus for exposing the text messages.
Speaker 2: Well, the next thing that I was thinking about in
Speaker 2: Jersey is they may as well start a real hair
Speaker 2: Dressers of New Jersey because that is pretty much the
Speaker 2: cause of the majority of the drama this season.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like this is staged. I feel like
Speaker 3: before filming, way before filming started, one of Danielle's hairstylist
Speaker 3: or makeup or somebody like that went out on social
Speaker 3: media and kind of blasted her for nonpayment or something
Speaker 3: like that. So I the way Jen operates clearly, She's like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm going to gather this information rounding that I'm going
Speaker 3: to bring Leena in and I'm going to make this
Speaker 3: a big deal. This is a stupid argument.
Speaker 2: Stupid this is And and once we get into Jen
Speaker 2: and Jen and Danielle actually talking about the step and
Speaker 2: repeat again having the.
Speaker 3: Name on there, can we talk about that a minute?
Speaker 3: Why step of repeats when they have logos? It's because
Speaker 3: people donated money, not their time, but donated money and
Speaker 3: maybe products things like that to have their name advertised.
Speaker 2: On there that you donate to the charity like the
Speaker 2: last one I went to for Kyle all In donated
Speaker 2: a bunch of things and so then my business was
Speaker 2: on the step and repeat. If you just go to
Speaker 2: show up as a human being, it's don't donate money.
Speaker 3: Why did elitist talk about somebody that puts themselves up
Speaker 3: so much higher than everybody and it's just thinks that
Speaker 3: they deserve the world. That's jen Aiden to me.
Speaker 2: Clearly you can't compare the two lifestyles, and she's doing
Speaker 2: the best that she can. She's doing the charity. She
Speaker 2: invited the women from the show to come. It is
Speaker 2: what it is. And then once we get to the
Speaker 2: hair extensions of it all, I do believe Danielle in
Speaker 2: this instance. She's saying, listen, Danielle showed up and was
Speaker 2: in the in the photos. So is Dolores. So I
Speaker 2: don't think Danielle is putting a shit like not taking
Speaker 2: care of her glam girls. She's showing up and doing it.
Speaker 2: But she is. If I all of a sudden said
Speaker 2: to you, hey, Laura has a new hair extension line,
Speaker 2: or Laura reached out to you and said, hey, Tam,
Speaker 2: I want to put an extension in your hair, and
Speaker 2: you were like okay, and then you told me I'd
Speaker 2: be like, oh, as a heads up, I'm there too.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a big photo shoot. It's going to
Speaker 2: be on the website.
Speaker 3: That's just and I want to get paid. Yes, I'm
Speaker 3: not anybody's website unless i'm paid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he tells me to advertise unless you're paying me.
Speaker 2: Or there you're act like I would do it because she's.
Speaker 3: My personal friend. She's your personal friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's different. And so I don't think what
Speaker 2: Danielle was doing was being an elitist or an asshole
Speaker 2: to her glamor. I think she was giving her cast
Speaker 2: member a heads up.
Speaker 3: Oh so do I. I think this is just Jen trying
Speaker 3: to bring in all this information. She's evil. Daniel went
Speaker 3: wrong when she walked out the door and said, you're
Speaker 3: sleeping with the devil. He didn't even flench.
Speaker 2: He freaking Bill just sat there silently finishing up his
Speaker 2: sandwich as Danielle screams about his bitch devil wife. It
Speaker 2: was so unintentionally funny. I was so.
Speaker 3: Funny as a grown ass woman. How do you feel
Speaker 3: when housewives tell other Housewives that you have people in
Speaker 3: your ear, or I didn't like her because Tamra said
Speaker 3: I shouldn't like her, or you know, you make your
Speaker 3: own choice, your own decisions and opinions. We're grown ass women.
Speaker 3: I can't stand that ahead and you.
Speaker 2: Can also change your decision. Like sure, going into our
Speaker 2: last trip last week, I thought in my head, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm gonna really like Alexis Bilino told
Speaker 2: you that, And then once I met her, my feelings
Speaker 2: changed because I liked who I was around.
Speaker 3: Right, And I think what most people are going to
Speaker 3: see that with her this season, Like most people are like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, how could she take she it's men,
Speaker 3: that's not what happened, and that's how that's how people
Speaker 3: are judging her. And I think that that is.
Speaker 2: A normal response. It's, yeah, you may think you're not
Speaker 2: going to like somebody in the when you meet them
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my gosh, I totally had the
Speaker 2: wrong impression.
Speaker 3: This person's great, And it's always the person you think
Speaker 3: you're not gonna like, right, But that's how I am.
Speaker 3: It's always like, oh, I'm not gonna like her, and
Speaker 3: then it's like, oh my god, I love her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then I think the part that's a little
Speaker 2: bit crazy is Jen says she can't be friends with
Speaker 2: someone who sabotages her friend. Then Danielle calls Jenna dirt bag.
Speaker 2: Then Jen, I watched this no, no, less than ten times,
Speaker 2: me too. And Jen shoved her like right here, back
Speaker 2: towards the neck, and then Danielle like you could tell
Speaker 2: it's like a reflex, had her drink went like that.
Speaker 2: It was a plastic cup.
Speaker 3: So plastic, color, was not glass, and it was sitting
Speaker 3: at the table. That's why I kept rewinding. Was on
Speaker 3: her hand, No, it was on the table. She did
Speaker 3: not have a cup in her hand. I watched it
Speaker 3: over and over again, and then she went and grabbed it,
Speaker 3: and I think she was just gonna throw it in
Speaker 3: her face. And you can't really tell the camera. Did
Speaker 3: she hit her in the face or did the glass
Speaker 3: just like the whatever was in that glass, I think
Speaker 3: it just spilled.
Speaker 2: I think it went to the side and spilled on
Speaker 2: the side of her face. It's hard. You could tell
Speaker 2: Jen was so proud of herself that she got her
Speaker 2: to lose it. But then Jen pretending she didn't remember
Speaker 2: if she pushed her, and Teresa saying I didn't see
Speaker 2: any pushing.
Speaker 3: Oh God, come on.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we're gonna go. These are fan questions.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I want to let you know
Speaker 3: I did a pull on Instagram about whose side are
Speaker 3: you on? On Instagram, twenty one percent is on jen
Speaker 3: aiden side and seventy nine percent were on Danielle's side.
Speaker 3: Now a pull on Twitter, fifty five is kind of split,
Speaker 3: fifty five jen Aiden's and forty five Danielle's.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, these are the fan questions. Did Danielle get
Speaker 2: two into Jen's space slash face first? No, I don't
Speaker 2: think I mean, I guess she's pointing, but I don't
Speaker 2: think so.
Speaker 3: No, it was a heated conversation. She she Jen a
Speaker 3: lost her shit when she said, would she call her
Speaker 3: dirty something.
Speaker 2: A scumbag or whatever? They both they both speak with
Speaker 2: their hands like this in each other's face. She called
Speaker 2: her dirt back, but then the ferocity of Jin's push
Speaker 2: slashed the placement of her hands near Danielle's neck. Danielle's
Speaker 2: use of a cup was it just an instinctual response?
Speaker 3: Well, I think she wanted to punch her and knew
Speaker 3: that she couldn't punch her, so she was just gonna
Speaker 3: take that cup and throw it in her face. And
Speaker 3: I think they cup got a little too close to
Speaker 3: her face, but thank god it was plastic.
Speaker 2: Do we really think jen Aiden blacked out during the moment?
Speaker 3: Oh God, is that what she said? I didn't hear that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like, I don't even think I pushed her.
Speaker 2: I mean I could have, but like even like, imagine
Speaker 2: my whole face being covered with and she's just sitting
Speaker 2: there like stoically, and.
Speaker 3: She's like she's evil, She's evil.
Speaker 2: I listen. Danielle Well, much.
Speaker 3: Like Kenya, these two got put on pause for a
Speaker 3: little while while there was an investigation done, so they
Speaker 3: were not allowed to film. So I'm curious to see
Speaker 3: in the next few episodes are they in it or not?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel like Danielle reacted so
Speaker 2: quickly that she didn't even think about it, Like it
Speaker 2: was just like, you know, like I've just been pushed.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like she clearly didn't injure jen Aiden,
Speaker 2: and jan Aiden is the one that puts put her
Speaker 2: hands on her first. Do two wrongs make it right? No?
Speaker 2: But if somebody shoved me, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've never had somebody shove me like that.
Speaker 3: I I think if somebody I don't know, you really
Speaker 3: don't know what you're gonna do unless you're in that situation.
Speaker 3: But if somebody shoved me, I will probably shove them back.
Speaker 2: I would it have mattered more if the cup was
Speaker 2: glass like then we get into like what happened and
Speaker 2: well or if she was injured?
Speaker 3: You Yeah, I don't think that Daniell would have done
Speaker 3: it if it was a glass cap that could have
Speaker 3: sliced her face open.
Speaker 2: Well, I do feel like this episode has me I mean, granted.
Speaker 3: This clearly, it's it's the season is actually good, even
Speaker 3: though that there is, you know, a big disconnect within
Speaker 3: the group. I think it's going pretty well so far,
Speaker 3: it's working.
Speaker 2: And then what does that mean? What does that mean
Speaker 2: for like somebody like Jackie, who's we know now for
Speaker 2: the next couple episodes, she's solely going to be talked about.
Speaker 2: But do you think that will be her exit out
Speaker 2: of the show or do you think.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 3: people exiting out of the show. I'm speculating I don't
Speaker 3: know for a fact, but I think that there's probably
Speaker 3: going to be maybe three people left. Three people. Well,
Speaker 3: what I do think is no matter I know I
Speaker 3: was going to be one of them is going to
Speaker 3: be Dolores.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, no matter which team stays,
Speaker 2: I hate to say team, but which team stays, I
Speaker 2: think Dolores can go to either one.
Speaker 3: Well, they can't just keep one team because there has
Speaker 3: to be conflict in the show. They can't have one
Speaker 3: team that.
Speaker 2: It actually kind of bugs me that the Foodahs weren't there,
Speaker 2: like they're new. Figure it out.
Speaker 3: Why weren't they there? Did they say?
Speaker 2: Remember they had gotten a fight with Delorte. I mean
Speaker 2: they had gotten in a fight with Louis. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 3: Well they probably weren't invited, I know, but it's we
Speaker 3: need more people. I guess there was a lot of
Speaker 3: Grama without him.
Speaker 2: So who do you think is doing better their second season?
Speaker 2: Because remember, for a little while we were really impressed
Speaker 2: with Rachel, then last night we have Danielle or then well.
Speaker 3: Today yeah, as of today this episode, I'm impressed with Danielle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she stepped up.
Speaker 3: I like her relationship with her husband. They seem like
Speaker 3: just real.
Speaker 2: He was out there in like one second and like.
Speaker 3: He's like, that's not cool. You guys are supposed to
Speaker 3: be friends. But I just even in the car, like
Speaker 3: you could tell that they love each other, that they're
Speaker 3: happy together. And when she made that reference, like jen
Speaker 3: has to be so miserable.
Speaker 2: Well, also you can tell Bill didn't give two ships,
Speaker 2: so it's like the difference between the relationship.
Speaker 3: But they don't like each other.
Speaker 2: And and also I feel like Teresa likes Danielle as
Speaker 2: well because she followed after her.
Speaker 3: She did, she did, and Dolores like when jen Aiden
Speaker 3: was talking, Dlorus was shaking her head like I ain't
Speaker 3: buying your bullshit.
Speaker 2: She was too calm. It was like crazy all right, guys, Well,
Speaker 2: thank you for tuning in. We'll be back later this
Speaker 2: week to recap Dubai and give you some other juicy nuggets,
Speaker 2: So thanks for listening.