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Speaker 1: And me and Kobe Man. We never talked. Bro.

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Speaker 2: We never had one conversation on the court. I ain't

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Speaker 2: never said. The only thing he ever said to me

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Speaker 1: Like, Bro, I enjoyed all the battles. Damn he told

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Speaker 3: My, welcome back to the old Jesuits. A Playmaker original

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Speaker 3: presented by draftkas Man.

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Speaker 4: Tell him what it is?

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Speaker 5: What is it my first team?

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Speaker 1: They said, you, yeah, that's practical that they were too

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Speaker 1: near not to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm gonna make I'm gonna make it know as

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Speaker 2: know what I'm may And that's what that That's what

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Speaker 2: that really mean.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's work. You know.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy to me because like I've always like heard

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Speaker 5: like the top guys like you could say, it's one

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Speaker 5: thing for you to say it, but it's a whole

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Speaker 5: other thing where you get it from the d Wade

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Speaker 5: and the movies and the mother That's really no what

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Speaker 5: it feels like to be played in guard against you

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Speaker 5: every time. So we all can say we want to

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Speaker 5: say personally but when you get to you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, when you get your flowers from the kind

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Speaker 5: of dude that's.

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Speaker 3: Legit, exact respect and an nbah had for six times

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Speaker 3: NBA All Defensive Team and like I said, Man, I'm

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Speaker 3: for real with you. He's saying, Man, like everybody in

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Speaker 3: the league knows, you should have been a Defensive Player

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Speaker 3: of the Year. I think one of the biggest travestys

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Speaker 2: To listen, it hurts. It hurts because you know it's

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Speaker 2: a guard. Man, it's hard for us to even grab

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Speaker 2: them type of war. That's really like a big man trophy,

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Speaker 2: like how it was traditionally. But now, man, you see

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Speaker 2: guards out fight for it. I talking about competing for it.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the biggest game change. I felt like

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Speaker 1: Man. You know, you look at.

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Speaker 5: The awards around that time, and man, that's a supermax maw.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Come on, tell you, like the old boy told me,

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Speaker 5: you came out to sack just a little too soon.

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Speaker 1: Man, When you came out to sack just a little

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Speaker 1: too soon, yo, Why that's but that's the trophy.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think I had a quick shot at getting it.

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Speaker 2: I want to say twenty thirteen. I think I finished

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Speaker 4: Don't give me the you know.

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Speaker 2: And I felt that year, whatever year that was, I

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Speaker 1: Should have got it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Listen, at the end of the day, some of

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Speaker 3: the best, not shoot the best, the best players in

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Speaker 3: the world talk about it every day like you're the

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Speaker 3: hardest person ever had to score again.

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Speaker 1: So that to me, that's like defense players.

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Speaker 5: Like I had to go back to your upbringing because

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Speaker 5: I know the way I played the game of basket

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Speaker 5: my upbringing, my old boy my homeboys, all that that

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Speaker 5: That ain't sexy. It's only you mix love the loan ball,

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Speaker 6: That's why a team double defense players teamed up to

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Speaker 6: talk about that just growing up in Chicago and how

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Speaker 2: shout out to Juwan Howard. You know what up in

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Speaker 2: was he came back and put a play ground, black top,

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, old head average out there

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Speaker 2: You can make it, Bro, you don't gotta do all

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Speaker 2: glad I got on this platform to give him them.

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Speaker 2: But that's where that starts from. Man, everybody got the

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. Talk about that though, because Chicago. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: But one of one of.

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Speaker 3: The stories I got was when your dad gave you

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Speaker 1: I said that seven I.

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Speaker 2: So it was early, man, And so years old, bro

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Speaker 2: That starting early, I was outside broke. It wasn't like

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about pork and bean hot dogs for lunch,

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Speaker 2: So it's like it's like you play for you go

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's like to change my circumstance.

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Speaker 3: So you watched the documentary, you know that because I'm

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Speaker 3: pulling from the dock Man. That was guy's playing for

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Speaker 4: And it happens to be the program going on.

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Speaker 2: The programed the infamous adds, yeahs played there.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about from Michael Finley.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Bobby Quinn, Ridges and D Miles,

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about your name.

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Speaker 1: We have pros come all over comp that as you do.

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Speaker 4: He out there slanging, you do what he.

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Speaker 5: Named with Chicago yourself with D Miles. Yes, Chicago dudes. Man,

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Speaker 5: This is how South Florida is for football, d Road,

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Speaker 5: That's how Chicago was for basketball.

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Speaker 4: Man? Killer?

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Speaker 3: Forillo, He's after from slang to getting shot at to

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Speaker 3: Florida didn't go to school in the class.

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Speaker 1: None of this is surprising you over there, shot, this

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Speaker 2: I had a point five Listen, I had a point

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. How do you get the Olhoma State?

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Speaker 1: I wonder how you got it?

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Speaker 2: They got it in but you got a figure bro

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Speaker 2: like man, I'm telling the environments that I grew up in,

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Speaker 2: how will put the playground? I wasn't educated about that

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Speaker 2: broke and so what it really ain't my fault, man,

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Speaker 2: this is my circle.

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Speaker 5: But what I'm gonna give you credit on and what

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Speaker 5: we do know is growing up in any city street dudes,

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Speaker 5: we're a great businessman. The financial literacy part, we got

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Speaker 5: to work on that. But we are a great businessman.

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Speaker 5: We know how to hustle. We know how to get

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Speaker 5: we know how to hustle and get our bread up.

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Speaker 3: So let me let me let me go back on

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Speaker 3: So when you were when you were running around throwing

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Speaker 1: Of the last time you touched the ball before you program, man,

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Speaker 1: If this what you own, you got yours up out

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Speaker 2: She literally put me out and I was going to school,

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Speaker 1: It was like, nah, we ain't we ain't condoning that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had heard about the program a day

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Speaker 2: That was my first time ramp Like why is all

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Speaker 1: But at the time, because you don't get licked, So

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Speaker 2: Time, I'm like, I got on some friend that's James,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm going here, and I ended up running.

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Speaker 1: To my boy Jason straight jameson Straight.

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Speaker 2: We ended up going to Wyoming and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Of embarrassed, but uh, truth be told, we played.

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Speaker 2: We end up playing Sean Mary on that day and

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Speaker 1: So really everybody was coming to see you all these

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Speaker 2: Look t Walker and Will Bannam was about to play

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Speaker 2: Jay straight I killed. I had like eighteen against Sean Mary,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, damn, I'm all right, and so will

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Speaker 2: you know he came down there and told me like, man, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I ain't seen you in a while, man, but I

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Speaker 1: Like get me in school. I'm like, bro dropped out.

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Speaker 2: I got five, Like I'm gonna get you in there.

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Speaker 2: And that's so happened. This This gotta be God. That

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Speaker 1: She didn't know where she was at. I ain't know

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Speaker 2: When I found out, when I found out what you lived,

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Speaker 2: my grandma told me my grandma granted letter kids. So

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Speaker 2: when I get over there, I tell my mom, I said,

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Speaker 1: I said, it's so crazy. But the school down the

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Speaker 2: She let me back in. Managine she got back to

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Speaker 2: high school. It's high school. I'm only sixty and so

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Speaker 2: she got job applications.

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Speaker 4: Laying on like this is what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: If you ain't getting in school, You're going and man,

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Speaker 2: I promise you. I went in that school. Man, the principal,

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Speaker 2: missus Scott, my coach. After the long Street they said, man,

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Speaker 2: what are we gonna do with him? Point five credit? I said, Man,

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Speaker 2: he don't want to go to school. We'll come back

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Speaker 2: in the In the in the meeting, he's like, man, Joe,

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Speaker 2: we need them.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we see the football coach coming.

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Speaker 2: The football coach coming at look at him like, I

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Speaker 2: don't care about no point five credit. Hey, just keep

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Speaker 1: I'm telling I was like Moss out there at the

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Speaker 1: time to on six five.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about dealing that thing for real, for real.

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Speaker 5: I'm look in the paper man they got I'm thinking,

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Speaker 5: I fancy Tony Allen Folk touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Say Hubert Jenkins. I'm like, who is Hubert drinkings. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm going. Man, you know the next day you go, Man,

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Speaker 2: you turn, look, you turn like when you sluber draking

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Speaker 2: to see the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Okay, they got quartering there. Okay, but damn what tony out?

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Speaker 1: Oh my godness, they make it ain't mad. That's that's

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Speaker 1: too fire class right now. But yeah, I got out

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Speaker 1: of that. Man, that's too that's too good.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: I'll give about point five key the helmet on and

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Speaker 3: you can get through this human changing nuts.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I played football, man, I don't

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Speaker 5: got no scraps on it. Man, for real, Man, that's great.

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Speaker 5: So go to Oklahoma State. How that happened?

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Speaker 1: Man, that happened.

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Speaker 2: And that's a funny story with that too, because you

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Speaker 2: got to figure about me dropping out.

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Speaker 1: You want I ain't playing you. Uh see.

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Speaker 2: I played a year and a half a year in

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Speaker 2: it was like no letters and it was nothing. And

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Speaker 2: then at the time coach was like, man, let's let's

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Speaker 1: And at the time, you know they want no reclassified.

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Speaker 5: If you reclassified, then they that boy, dumb, dumb, are

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Speaker 5: you talking about grades?

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Speaker 1: In the same grade you got picked on.

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Speaker 3: Come on, you did have one of them teammates, bro,

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Speaker 3: he's twenty seven high school. It was twenty seven. They

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Speaker 3: went to the bar. They went to the bar afterwards.

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Speaker 3: Twenty You know exactly what I'm talking.

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Speaker 2: About too, man, But uh, it was it was just

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Speaker 2: one of those situations where I just didn't have no letter.

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Speaker 2: I never went to no camp, no ABCD camp, no

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Speaker 2: how will Bannam got a commit to Arizona?

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Speaker 1: And we averaged the same thing.

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Speaker 2: He's like, well, it was just it was how you started.

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Speaker 2: They've been on them, they've been watching them. He play

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Speaker 2: camps and what camps? Oh, you know you're going to

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Speaker 5: All of them.

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Speaker 4: Why did I get the x Y camp?

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Speaker 1: Why they weren't looking for me. He's like, no, they

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Speaker 2: He said, if we're gonna do prep school, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, nah, I ain't doing no prep school. I

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Speaker 2: got on that document that that was all that time

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Speaker 2: twenty years. I was upset any time I'm changing my life.

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Speaker 2: And then or I get to a point where, okay,

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Speaker 2: now what's the end. Row ain't no schools looking at me?

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Speaker 1: What's next? Is the block? You fee what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: How that's thinking in the city kid man? But what

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Speaker 2: I was like, God, real cause I end up going

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Speaker 2: back to that program, went right back to that program.

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Speaker 4: The program been good to you cause I went.

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Speaker 2: Right back to the program. My homeboy, James Peters man,

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Speaker 2: Uh he was, he was. He was just too old

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Speaker 2: to playing high school. He ended up leaving high school

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Speaker 2: going to this junior college in Kansas called uh Butler

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Speaker 2: and he got his g D. Whatever, came back home

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Speaker 2: for the summer. Who saw me? Who like you play?

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Speaker 4: Him?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm playing and play with you.

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Speaker 2: I played, I killed, and right after the game, he

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Speaker 2: was just like, bro, I could get you in college.

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Speaker 2: Picked up his phone and we had the flips back.

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Speaker 2: Picked up the phone Boom called his coach, told me

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Speaker 2: I got a guard and uh, he like, damn, James,

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Speaker 2: he likes that's the one like this one. So I

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Speaker 2: airport day in my life. I get to the airport,

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Speaker 2: I didn't miss five flights, kill like damn like west Hop. Friday,

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Speaker 2: I pushed have a letter of intent Saturday. They had

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Speaker 2: to push all that back. I ain't up getting that

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Speaker 2: the next day Saturday. Man, when I tell y'all went

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Speaker 2: to the scrimmage, bro and I pulled out my iverson,

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Speaker 2: I pulled out my coolbe, I pulled out my tea mac,

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Speaker 2: I pulled out I'm.

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Speaker 5: Clessing, bro, Man, you would have thought I was a

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Speaker 5: seventh town.

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Speaker 2: All Listen, listen, bro listen, bro Hey with to it.

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Speaker 2: Within the fourth game, he blew the whistle. Hey, Tony Allen,

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Speaker 2: come upstairs, shout out coach Dennis Ham. He was in

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Speaker 2: my journey time too. Uh he uh he say yeah,

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Speaker 2: let him. I called him Andy, Mama, you throw them applications.

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Speaker 5: Away, baby, Then we're going to college, ain't, Mike, We

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Speaker 5: want to college, baby, not for real?

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Speaker 1: You know I got you ain't got a paper, man,

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Speaker 1: Listen all these I got Kroger Yeah you know. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: When that came high school, you want to.

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Speaker 4: High on seven?

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Speaker 1: When something out the top shols I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I could do it. So what ended up happening broke?

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Speaker 2: He sat len saying, boom, I get there and man,

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: That was that was.

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Speaker 2: That was a cool experience, man, seeing all the ethnicities

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Speaker 2: and just just just really a coaching shock to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, Chicago, Steel Water is crazy, by the way, and.

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Speaker 2: This is only the way getting I was in Kansas

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Speaker 2: just as on what we're talking about, so El Dorado,

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Speaker 2: Kansas then but I ended up, like I said, it

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Speaker 2: was a roller coaster because I ended up getting in

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Speaker 2: trouble there. I got kicked out at school, you know,

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Speaker 2: blowing it down. Funny story. They was, they was coming

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Speaker 2: to give me my award. It was come to tell

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Speaker 2: me I'm freshman of the year. They'll come and so

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Speaker 2: as I'm coming to get the award's coming in the room.

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Speaker 2: Normally in the room is always season.

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Speaker 1: And burn down. Okay, burned. I got the candles, got

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Speaker 1: their fresh, and I got that thing, got the kid,

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Speaker 1: got everything. I told the guys, bro, don't come knocking

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Speaker 1: on my door and slip. Let everything cool. Bro. They

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Speaker 1: knocked on the door. Boom, I'm like, who is that?

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Speaker 1: So I get up.

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Speaker 2: I get up, I walk to the door. Boom, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Come on out, come on out. They like they snipping

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Speaker 2: hard on them up.

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Speaker 1: What's that fragrance? You can't hide that.

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Speaker 2: They're like, what going on? They're like, well, yeah, we

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Speaker 2: just want to let you know you want a freshman

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Speaker 1: It's like an n C double A. They got one

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Speaker 1: He is really good. He's really good.

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Speaker 4: You're going Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 5: I'm going Zach Wheeler, Philly's guy. And it's something about

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Speaker 5: pretty good start.

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Speaker 1: I mean your thirty ks what second in strikes? You know?

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Speaker 3: So Zach Wheeler at plus three twenty is you donnas Haslo's.

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Speaker 4: Cy Young?

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Speaker 3: I'm going Paul Skins at plus two ten. Your odds

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Speaker 2: And when I got there, first thing I asked Coach

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657
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: then and there, I was like, I'm gonna play a

658
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: game within the game and play defense. But I'm my

659
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: bread and Butter's offense. Let's not get that trick.

660
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I was playing of your hold on newcomer player Jui

661
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: come to your come the next year player. You said, yeah, man, man.

662
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: That means that says a lot about you that kids

663
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: ain't gonna want to hear that early on. Nobody want

664
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: to hear that, especially if you got a bag and

665
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: you can go to it and the coach tell you, okay,

666
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: you could do that, but I want you to focus

667
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 5: on this and this is how you're gonna get where

668
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 5: you're trying to go, especially defense, because defense ain't easy.

669
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: No, it's it ain't sax like you said, like people

670
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: ain't saying enough. Yeah, people people want to anybody can't

671
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: do it. No, it's coming him.

672
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you know that. It's a it's in

673
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: a draft.

674
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: You gotta grab w you when competing at a high

675
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: level and playing defense is definitely gonna be needed when

676
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about that's what you want to do.

677
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: It ain't too many of them left in the game today.

678
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone not all get screened and get

679
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: get through. And I mean that if this, yeah, you

680
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

681
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: It's dead ass like I've never seen so, like you

682
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: found out, defense is gonna make it for you, right,

683
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: especially when you got the league was it was it

684
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: like film work well or is it just want you?

685
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: Because I've never seen anyone get screened before like that.

686
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: That's if you talk to every high level player d

687
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: Wade cole kd.

688
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: They couldn't shake you. And what you use the screen for?

689
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: Obviously people at homes get an advantage. They never got

690
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: an advantage screen in you.

691
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: So what was it? What was it?

692
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: Film was a justmination of heart?

693
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're right, youd. Uh, but the film aspect,

694
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: I think the film never lied.

695
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: Bro.

696
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: You look at film and half of the league then

697
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: when the whole league is pretty much running the same place.

698
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: Back then, they was running pin down flex screens and uh,

699
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: why you know what I'm saying, you had you had

700
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: bigger guys coming to try to get these guys. I

701
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: know if I did my work early, stayed on your

702
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: hip and seen when the pick comes. Sometimes I get

703
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: so tricky, bro with this. It's be like, okay, the

704
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: pen down coming, I'm gonna act like I'm gonna shoot

705
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 2: the gap, so the pick gonna go over a little bit.

706
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna stay with my man and now I

707
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: got to steal with my left hand. I'm going to

708
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: get to steal we going the other way. I play

709
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: it down like that on pen down, then on the

710
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: mere pick and roll, I already know if I if

711
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: I could get my shoulder above his shoulder. Why why

712
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: this guard coming into this weekend? Because we sending them

713
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: weeks right hand or left hand.

714
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

715
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: And a lot of people in the world probably don't

716
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: understand this lingo. It's a fraternity lingosandate.

717
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: But I never let my shoulder get hit, and I

718
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: would do the same.

719
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: Thing on the on the men pick and roll. Sometime

720
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: you think I might finish, I'm about to go over,

721
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 2: but no, you will pick up.

722
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm going on.

723
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: I'll tell you.

724
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: It's made me laugh because when I played with him,

725
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: it was like sheer It was sheer joy watching him

726
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: because the way he's talking right now is the way

727
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: he played it like. It was like that he was

728
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: fully bought in, but he was so funny when he

729
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: was because you let him know. He got it to

730
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: first team.

731
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy, And I really believe our first team bro

732
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: shooting for a defensive player that you're trying to market,

733
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: because I understand, Okay, a lot of this market is

734
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: starting to come brand stuff.

735
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Now I started seeing it's slowly developing.

736
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: And one thing that I did was, bro I used

737
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: to go to the referees right before the games, shake

738
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: their hands.

739
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: How you doing so? Because because guys been the salesman

740
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: is fourteen first team.

741
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: So it gets to the point, brou get to the point,

742
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: Danny crowd from them. Folks looking at me already know

743
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 5: boy you first team all defense.

744
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: So now by time it's time to scrap up.

745
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: Man.

746
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: Listen, dude already know how coming. I told him for

747
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: the game, I'm physical tonight, man, first team time.

748
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: You feel I'm saying.

749
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: And a lot of people know don't know that if

750
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: you just unders get it, get it, get a feel

751
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: of rest before the game, save you some money too,

752
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: I think.

753
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: Because I never got no text on the reference.

754
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: Tony Allen, first team all on you see all of them.

755
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: It be funny when I be at the front row

756
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: of the Gridges game and that's the first thing they say,

757
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: first team, first team.

758
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I know, like, man, that's funny. That's my that was

759
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: big man.

760
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: I got it.

761
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I repped that. That's one thing I should have took on.

762
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: I used to always know the rep's name.

763
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 5: I used to speak to the rest, but I never

764
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: got into part where I was, you know, speaking speaking

765
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 5: of it two insistent, you know what I'm saying. And

766
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: all throughout my career, twenty year career, I might be

767
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 5: not first team, but I should have been on one

768
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: of them defensive teams. Oh for sure, for sure they

769
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 5: had it was. It was the same thing, different way.

770
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 5: I wasn't a god, but the same kind of competition.

771
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: But that's that shop boy that shot. He was on

772
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: this SLF early early.

773
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: Talk about talk about your days in Boston and win

774
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: that championship of Boston.

775
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: Well in Boston, I gotta I gotta say, man, I

776
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: learned a lot. I learned how to be a professional.

777
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: I had my my younger, wilder days. You know what

778
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying, being drafted, you know, you know, full of himself,

779
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It saying, But at that

780
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: time coming in when getting drafted, Man, I can'tfront man.

781
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: First day I got drafted and getting there, I was

782
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: so excited to be with that franchise. I mean I

783
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: had already had throwback jerseys, a bird Paul Pierce. You

784
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Back then it was throwback Jersey,

785
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: I was that's popping in.

786
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really in tune, Like I was really

787
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: in tune with what Boston was doing as a franchise

788
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: and everything.

789
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: You know, Twyne Walker played there, he was cy response,

790
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: so you know, it was all Chicago already in the way,

791
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: and Paul Pierls was basically my favorite player at the

792
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: point at the time.

793
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: So getting there, I learned a lot. But it was

794
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: one of those things.

795
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: Where you're gonna have to look up into those matters

796
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: and one day that they're gonna stopped. They're gonna start

797
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: to hold your accountable for you to come out here

798
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: and produce. And so one of the things Doc had

799
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: always told me, you know what I'm saying. When I

800
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: got there, he said, look around, bro, He said, you're

801
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: a rookie, You're on a rookie contract. What's the best

802
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: way for you to get on the floor. I said,

803
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. He said, well, you need to be

804
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: doing everything they not doing. That's diving on the floor,

805
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: getting the fifty to fifty balls, taking charges, being in

806
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: the passing lane fast break. You first went through your lane,

807
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: finishing at the basket and shooting at low lot.

808
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: I said, hell, that's a lot for not to do nothing.

809
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 5: You ain't got one place driven up for a were

810
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: from Chicago, which.

811
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Chicago I think flex clear.

812
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: And so I learned that early. So I learned, but

813
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: I didn't take it like that. I took it like

814
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: I took it like, uh, I got to be a

815
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: piece to a puff, you know what I'm saying. That's

816
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: what that everybody ain't gonna shine, but when we shine

817
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: together and win, because that's what it's ultimately about. And

818
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: I learned that this league or the league that we're from, Uh,

819
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 2: I respect winning when it when it when it is

820
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: the end all.

821
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: To be off.

822
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: What did you what did you learn through that process

823
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: from Ticket? Because I think because to me, like one thing,

824
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: it was about him and when I play with you,

825
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: when I played with you and Memphis, the energy and

826
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: and your presence was contagious. And I and I never

827
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: have to play a ticket m hm. And we talked

828
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: about Ticket down here, but he was one of my

829
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: favors because his stuff was contagious. Yes, it was like

830
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: like like you you knew that that team wherever he

831
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 3: was al was gonna take on that presence no exactly,

832
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: And I felt like that was the same thing when

833
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: he went to Grit and Grind. It was like, that's

834
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: that was what That's what changed that team was obviously

835
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: your presence and that that energy I thought was contagious.

836
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: And did you get that from Ticket or was that

837
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: just your personality in the first place?

838
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: No, You're right, it was it was it was. It

839
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: was a combination of a lot of things over there.

840
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: When I played in Boston, ye had Universe Ticket Universe.

841
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, p universe Universe.

842
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: You go to Red University's jumpers up, you get some

843
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: jump us up, gonna go golfing?

844
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: Understand business.

845
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty funny right there.

846
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Read a few bulls, have a few books. That's dope.

847
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: Follow universe ready, Now that's funny. Then you got p

848
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: are we cracking? Who doing it? Where were you going?

849
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: You feel that he just.

850
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: Got that type of energy. You ready to come to compete?

851
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: Then you got Ticket.

852
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: That's a big glory. What are you doing? Nothing? He

853
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: just he coming through with that image you feel, I'm saying.

854
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: And so when you say the comparisons is to that, man,

855
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: those guys, I ain't gonna lae man. I took a

856
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: piece from each university because when confidence came in play.

857
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: I just seen my boy p go four for seventeen.

858
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: We lose and walk in the locker room. Yeah, I

859
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: get them them all here, let's go.

860
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: Come on.

861
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: We ain't got nothing to talk about it. I can't

862
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: miss too long, you know what I'm saying. He had

863
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: that confidence me. On the other hand, I'm looking like, boy,

864
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: your ass just one.

865
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 5: How as you walking around it with a straight face

866
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: and confident you feel, I'm saying, That's how I'm looking

867
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 5: at that.

868
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, you gotta stay, stay confident, do

869
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: let nothing break? They mentally tough. I took that. If

870
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: you imagine I had to take that cause I want

871
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: to shoot.

872
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 5: You gotta figure somebody close out around you know how

873
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: strong mentally you got.

874
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hit the brakes, man, you ain't gonna close.

875
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: That turned to a half four shot, Come on, man,

876
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: And so I took the confidence from Pete. And then

877
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: I say with Raye, man, I always like far as

878
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: his preparations, like he get that three four hours early

879
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: for the game. He'd beat and took a shower, hot

880
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: tubcot to read the book, came back so mentally focused

881
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: on the game, watched the film I'm like.

882
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Oh, that's what you gotta do, you know what I mean.

883
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: Whereas in the other years, with previous years, you know,

884
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: I'll be in there, you know, on my phone.

885
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: He he and the haha about last night. You know

886
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Took one look at once on film

887
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: on the board, you know what I'm saying. And I

888
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: liked that. I got that from him.

889
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: Now, as far as ticket, the heart and soul part,

890
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 2: I gotta say, it don't come out like that coming

891
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: into games. In the games, he got a whole different focus.

892
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: It's like he.

893
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: Like gathering it all up. I might he might sit

894
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: at his locker for about five minutes and just just

895
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: soaking it in. You probably think he about to be

896
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: a ticking time bomb. But in reality, he got the

897
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: heat pack on his feet. You know, he's watching what's

898
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: on the board. As far as plays and things that nature.

899
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: He might leave from there. Boom, put on the shoes

900
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: and going there. Get them squats. You get them squats

901
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: in with the ninety pounds. Boom, going there, get some treatment,

902
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: stay in the treatment room, vibe out and everybody focused.

903
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I took put it in Memphis

904
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: like that was my whole brand.

905
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: Brother, because these guys are the Hall of Fame and

906
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: so you see what I'm saying, These guys know how

907
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: to win. This is how you be a profession and

908
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: I ain't had no blueprint to this becoming pro I

909
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: had to learn from having these what we call og

910
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: to where you know it could it could show you

911
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: how you should be moving. You know what I'm saying.

912
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Them guys have families. I want to grow a family.

913
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: Things that nature. I want to follow that every everything

914
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: that they had going, you know what I'm saying. So Boston,

915
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: big shout to Boston. Man's that's my heart.

916
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

917
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: So you win that championship and go to Memphis and

918
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: you're part of what I think is obviously the best

919
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: team of Memphis story is a great and grind team.

920
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: And by the way, you died just like you got

921
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: his jersey retired.

922
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Graduation, My brother, God like us these jobs quiet a lot.

923
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

924
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying.

925
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: People all the time, dog you got you got a

926
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: nice little shiny Bentley. But it ain't nobody changing the

927
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 5: oil and the spark because to know what, We're gonna

928
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 5: see your ass on ninety sit on the side.

929
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: We don't ride the ship. We're gonna keep going.

930
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: One thing I will say to this for you is

931
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 5: you got to give yourself credit for this is because

932
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 5: what I know about leadership is real leaders bring people

933
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 5: together and it has to be authentic. Even though you

934
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 5: took what you took from those guys, you did it

935
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 5: your way. You took your little piece from Ray, you

936
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 5: took your little piece from from from Paul, you took

937
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 5: your piece from Ticket. But when you can when it

938
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 5: when it came out and you was implementing that in

939
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 5: the guys in Memphis, you did it Joe way. You

940
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: couldn't do it like Ticket because they'll see through that exactly.

941
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: You couldn't do it like that, ain't you. You couldn't

942
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 5: do it like Paul. Ain't authentic. One thing about true leadership.

943
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: You got to be authentic. If I try to lead

944
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 5: like somebody else, they won't follow me. And that's what

945
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 5: you got to give yourself credit because you figured out

946
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: how to do it.

947
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: Your way exactly. You know what I'm saying right about that? Yeah, yeah,

948
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: but no, I mean leaving Boston. I didn't want to leave.

949
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: There was a situation where Chris Wallace he drafted me.

950
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: He was in Boston.

951
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: He was in Boston when they picked me up twenty

952
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: five pick you know what I'm saying. So when I

953
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: got there, it was like I thought I was actually

954
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: going to Chicago. I thought I was going Chicago. They

955
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: ended up picking up is it Ronnie Brewer the artist?

956
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: They picked him up fifteen. I then went back home,

957
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: got me a nice little condo at the crib. I'm

958
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: thinking I'm going back one man. They called me and

959
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: told me like, nah, we're gonna go another direction. And

960
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: so just after, like at the end, I want to

961
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: say that, it was like then that almost the end

962
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: of the free Ace and you know, Chris Wallace reached

963
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: out and he told me, He's like, man, I like

964
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: what you just did in the twenty and ten finals

965
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: on Kobe.

966
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: I like how you competed. I've been watching you all playoffs.

967
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

968
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: He was like, we're missing that in this organization. We

969
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: need you to be here and be a blue guy.

970
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: He flat out toe, I just want you to do

971
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: everything you was just doing in the playoffs. I don't

972
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: want you to do nothing else. Focus on that.

973
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: Can you come do that? And when I tell you,

974
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Chris Wallace Chris Walling Man. He was on my ass

975
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: the whole time. I was.

976
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: I thought I had a college coaching man, a general

977
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: manager that you don't have this man you called me.

978
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: He was on my bumper. I'm talking on my bumper

979
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about at A. You know, we got

980
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: a big game tomorrow. Man, Hey, what's it going on?

981
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: Like Chris, what's up?

982
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: Man?

983
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: Just making sure you didn't getting your wrest everything? Follow up?

984
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Like what up? Like coach? Got normal? Take on my legs?

985
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: And man, watching film? Are you talking about? For your leadership?

986
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: And and I hunted that bro and I can't front,

987
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 2: so I always get him kudos man for just even

988
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: taking that chandel because that was that was it.

989
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: That was That was my only off. No I was,

990
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: I wan't gonna I want gonna be in the leader.

991
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: It changed that team too, man, I'll be honest. That team.

992
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 3: The way they put that team together and the way

993
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: they did that from the outside, you're like, whoa, you

994
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: know they did the z BO and you and you're like,

995
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like and they came together

996
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: and that just you guys took on that and it's

997
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: what they called grit and grind.

998
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: Like that was that was all your man?

999
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: When you're great, when you walked in the Oh God,

1000
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: you knew you was in for a battle.

1001
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: Yes, you was about get your rest.

1002
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew you was in.

1003
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: For We wanted to change the narrative, man, because I

1004
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: ain't gonna let me. I played in Boston and we

1005
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: used to look at the schedule. We see Memphis, We'll

1006
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, were gonna be in Memphis real quick,

1007
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: going there and get that win. Then we got to

1008
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: get out here to l A like it never wasn't

1009
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, so and when And

1010
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: I always had that in my head too, I'm like, yo,

1011
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna were gonna change that narrative.

1012
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1013
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: Before I get think one thing, Chris Wallace asked me,

1014
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: was I gonna be Are you gonna be able to

1015
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: play with z BO? And I'm like, what you think?

1016
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, just off the court stuff.

1017
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe you guys just different something. I'm like, No,

1018
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: that's my man.

1019
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Two of the most dopest teamates every.

1020
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, know, that's my man. And so when

1021
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: I got there and saw both both, like, man, we

1022
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: missed the game. We missed the playoff last year about

1023
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: ten about ten game. Bro, Bro, We're gonna be doing

1024
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: it this Year's been working out all summer, Bro, We're good.

1025
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Were good. I'm looking at Bro. I'm like, you've been

1026
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: working out all.

1027
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: I've been in.

1028
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: Working. But he was a little fit.

1029
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't know he's you know that first week, but

1030
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: man from off the rip, Man we hit it man

1031
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: And I had been knowing about him, been playing against

1032
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: him or whatever. But just to get there and see,

1033
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, how how big hearted he was, man and

1034
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: how open he was is just sharing game, just you know,

1035
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: putting me down on a few things, showing me the

1036
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: city pretty much, you know, because he was there years

1037
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: before he.

1038
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: Got family that he had been gonna coming to me.

1039
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: The blend though, the blend of personalities because he had

1040
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: the nicest human being in the world of Mike Conley.

1041
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah right, and then you got freaking the skill of

1042
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: Marcus Saul and what he does like it was like

1043
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: it was like a jumble liar, Man, it just turned

1044
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: out to be perfect.

1045
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: And I promise you, Mike, I love Mike.

1046
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: I always say he wanted the best My best teams

1047
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: still doing it because he's still doing all it and

1048
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: that's the way he keep gassed together like we like

1049
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: we said, a different personality. When Mark ain't getting the ball,

1050
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: he's speaking in Spanish job migo, like he upset that

1051
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: he wanted le and I have probably turned it over

1052
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: clink one did something silly. And he will always be

1053
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: the guy to be like hey, fellas we and and

1054
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: if you want taking it where he'll pull you to

1055
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: the side. He keeps thinking up like just together and

1056
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: I love the fact that his his work is still

1057
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: being and it's still I always felt like Mike Conley

1058
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: was one of them dudes in the league.

1059
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: Like if you got a problem with Mike Conney, something

1060
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: wrong with you, some got if you. If you come

1061
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: up to me and just say something bad about Mike Conley,

1062
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: I ain't with you.

1063
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: I know, ain't that man. That's not good of a dude.

1064
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: He want them type of dudes.

1065
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: And he did his thing man, because I mean sometimes

1066
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: it'd be situations where you got to give the ball

1067
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: to Bowl or Mark, they both cook it. How you

1068
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: even manage that?

1069
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: Let me ask you something because you you you brought

1070
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 3: up her Chris, when Chris brought you in he said,

1071
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: I like what you did on Cod in the twenty

1072
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: ten finals. Right, God rest his soul. One of the best,

1073
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: not the best, Kobe Bean Bryant. Give us Give us

1074
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: a because he's he's made it well known and documented

1075
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: that you're the best defender he's ever seen.

1076
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: Yes, give us a Kobe memory. Man, Kobe memory, Kobe memory.

1077
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: Oh man, I give you one man. It'd be times right.

1078
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: They running the Tragle office. They run the Tragle offense. Now,

1079
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: they didn't ran this offense all through the years before

1080
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: we even got in the league, you know what I'm saying.

1081
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: And we then played against it and scattered the study.

1082
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: I know when you flashed at this elbow and Paul

1083
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: is up top, I know the back doors coming with

1084
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: the big you might give a hand off them to

1085
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: my odor and then after that you're going straight to

1086
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: your eyes over.

1087
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: So why not I just deny this? How about this

1088
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: be my best defense? Yes?

1089
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: So one time Power was up top and a few possessions,

1090
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: I either got a deflection, denied that.

1091
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: They had to swing it back the other.

1092
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: Way and go put the trains.

1093
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: Swing it back.

1094
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: So he mad, like he's mad, Kobe mad, and so

1095
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they coming back down. I think

1096
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: they're about to go back into that action. He just

1097
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: starts speaking in Spanish to Paul. I'm like, why did

1098
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: you speaking in Spanish? I say, no, the back do' coming.

1099
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: Coming? Why he this Spanish break? All in the same

1100
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: for me, Bro, you don't knock it off.

1101
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: And so I end up, you know, noticing that he's,

1102
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, bilingual, he speaking with lambs and so once

1103
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: I I noticed that after I was playing though, and

1104
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, and so who just stamped it was?

1105
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: We had that interview with Voylge and uh, and I said, Bro,

1106
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: when y'all want to do audibles to y'all plays, y'all

1107
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: stopped speaking in Spanish.

1108
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: He's like you better know it.

1109
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: I said, Man, damn it, I knew it. And it

1110
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: was funny because I was like, why do he always

1111
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: do that? And me and Kobe Man, we never talked, bro.

1112
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: We never had one conversation on the court. I ain't

1113
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: never say. The only thing he ever said to me

1114
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: was the last time he played, he grabbed me, hugged

1115
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: and he was like, Bro, I enjoyed all the battles, Bro.

1116
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: He told me in my ear and I'm like, damn,

1117
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe. I'm like, this man actually said

1118
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: something to me. I'm talking about my whole fourteen years

1119
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: of playing basketball. That was the only conversation I had

1120
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: for it.

1121
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: It's ultimate little and on the flipping, on the flip

1122
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: side of So that's what made Kobe a gangster though

1123
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: Kobe Kobe is.

1124
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: That's old school making no friends out. Ain't no.

1125
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 5: Applehead Wade apple head.

1126
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: From the crib man.

1127
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 5: That's that's before the NBA had y'all cross paths competing

1128
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 5: against each other. Anytime, it's one time back, one time

1129
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 5: because you know, you know, he's from the hood.

1130
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: He's from the hood, but he moved to the summer.

1131
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: When he went out there, he started, I'm talking about killing.

1132
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: He's talking about killing. My cousin went to school with him,

1133
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: and so my cousin used to be always telling me, like, bro,

1134
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: this dude.

1135
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: The Wade killer. I'm like yeah, like like six five.

1136
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: He dunk and I'm like yeah, and so mind you

1137
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: just the time, I'm restoring my my whole game back together. Now,

1138
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm okay, So this is what's going on. So we

1139
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: end up playing at the end of the year, we

1140
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: end up having a like city urban game, City versus

1141
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: suburban game with all the all stars out of the

1142
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: day town come play the city.

1143
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: Hey, that's a funny by the way, versus suburban game. No,

1144
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: that was.

1145
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: And d Wade on so white guys in the waves,

1146
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: white guys and the waiversus got nice conversion when first suburban.

1147
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 5: That we all way killed or it wasn't I know,

1148
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 5: but when we crossed inspired by rap music.

1149
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all.

1150
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: Well, but no, man, the way he he got Damn

1151
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: he won m v P of that game and they

1152
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: won the game busy ya. I think he had like

1153
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: he had like twenty nine. I had like twenty one. Yeah,

1154
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: we went in it once.

1155
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: D Wade was a dollar But I.

1156
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 5: Know in the NBA he always talks about obviously how

1157
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: tough of a cover. Yeah, when didn't played when he

1158
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 5: played against you. But you know, when y'all talk, when

1159
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 5: you because you talk a lot of what would you

1160
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 5: what you be saying? I don't be saying, you know

1161
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 5: what you really want to Yeah, I want to know

1162
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: because I would be mumble rapp, especially somebody from Chicago.

1163
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 5: What you're saying if as soon as you wake up

1164
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 5: in the morning.

1165
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm locking up on the door.

1166
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: What you're saying, I promise I'm on that type town

1167
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 2: for sure. But let's just say I'm contesting this shot

1168
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: you miss. I might just say you it's just my presence.

1169
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: My presence.

1170
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: I might say something real slick, you know, but I

1171
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: ain't barking one thing I ain't doing to barking. Or

1172
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: I might speaking third person. I might just say, you know,

1173
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: might get a block shot of someone, you know. I

1174
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: might say, get that, you know, normal, But for shouff,

1175
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: sure if I hit you with with that or what's

1176
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: another one?

1177
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 4: Good d t A yeah, he.

1178
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: Said, I speaking the third person so worse. That's worse

1179
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: than some of barking louder is. He's all right, that's

1180
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: just my I got to get into himnute for sure.

1181
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: Man, I ain't talk much. I add the mouth, he said.

1182
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you if you make a good shot,

1183
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 5: say you got to make that for four quarters from

1184
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 5: four quarter, fourth quarter when it goes shorter and left see.

1185
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: Long thought process too.

1186
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: For the Wade was tough, though, bro, I can't I

1187
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: can't confront like, I ain't that one thing about him?

1188
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: Man, He was one of them guards.

1189
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: Man.

1190
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: He attacked the office glass.

1191
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: What made him?

1192
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: What made him different?

1193
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: He attacked like I said, he attacked the offici of

1194
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: Glass and I'm talking about and when you put him

1195
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: in that pick and roll and he get down, hell, man,

1196
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: it's no stopping him. And we already know what he

1197
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: do in the open court when he got the ball.

1198
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: He's just as dangerous. But I like him because he

1199
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: always active, being from the crib and you know what

1200
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying, coming to get that ring, making this Wade County,

1201
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, bringing that Chicago presence down here. Man,

1202
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: He he made me believe I can do that, you

1203
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because he's one of them, and

1204
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: he always been, you know, a competitor since I know him,

1205
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1206
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: So let me ask some because the game obviously is

1207
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: always changing, right and it got real offensive for a

1208
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: long time, but now we're circling this playoff time and

1209
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 3: now he's got defensive. Let me let me, let me

1210
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: let me ask you something. You're going into it right now.

1211
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: We're in the Eastern Conference Western cons finals. How are

1212
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: you guarding some of these guys like Shaye and Brunson, Like,

1213
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: what are you doing because during the regular season, obviously

1214
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: it's got to be a little bit different unless you're

1215
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: introducing yourself as first team, right, But just how you

1216
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: how you how you guard these dudes in the physicality

1217
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: of guarding these dudes, Like talk to me about walking

1218
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: through what what to expector how would.

1219
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: You do this with these guys?

1220
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: Well, if I had to, if I had to start

1221
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 2: with Shaye, I'm definitely sending them to his right hand.

1222
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: I want because it's a lot of his shots. He

1223
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: just makes it look easy going. I mean, it looks

1224
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: like a rhythm shot. He bumping right hand shooting. It's

1225
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: just right there in the space. Now, I would like

1226
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: to see that going to the right hand. And not

1227
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: only that, since they letting us be physical, now, you know,

1228
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: let's let's get our bigs up a little more and

1229
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: just give me a left time to push through the screen.

1230
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: I could be physical now they let us play. Let

1231
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: me get to the screen, square back up, but stay

1232
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: on his hand on his left hand. Let's let's force

1233
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: him to that way, but be willing to break that

1234
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 2: bump because you know he bout the ball.

1235
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: See a lot of times you stay too connected to

1236
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: him and he just get your ass up off and

1237
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: he and he's strong.

1238
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize how strong he is

1239
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: as a six to six guard point guard. Like once

1240
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: he pushed you off, that's the that's the separation right there.

1241
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: If you could break that, be able to gather your

1242
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: your upper body up and break that and still be

1243
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: willing to contest for a forty eight minute game, I

1244
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: don't see him being effective. And then you got these

1245
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: guys going there that that that's that's definitely weapons though,

1246
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: like Ice here, Joe, and you're gonna have to You're

1247
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: gonna have to make them threats, make them be in

1248
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 2: this moment, make them, make them be who they make

1249
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: them be, Mike Miller, make them Mike Miller.

1250
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: That's that's a challenge for y'all to now.

1251
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 5: Said though he said forty eight minutes, you're gonna make

1252
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 5: some of those tough shots for forty eight minutes.

1253
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Everything has to be tough.

1254
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 5: See, I think the problem is, and what a lot

1255
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 5: of guys get away from is you'll they'll they'll play

1256
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 5: tough defense for two or three possessions and then you'll

1257
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 5: get two or three easy ones.

1258
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: Then they try to turn it back on. Then you'll

1259
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: get two or three easy ones.

1260
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 5: Gotta be forty eight minutes, dog get every shot, and

1261
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 5: literally for that forty eight minutes, you literally just wearing

1262
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 5: on them to the fourth quarter. This is what you

1263
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 5: now the fourth quarter. I want that to start being left.

1264
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 5: I want that to stop being right. I want you

1265
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 5: to stop working to get the ball, because I've been

1266
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 5: wearing on your ass and you done had to work

1267
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 5: to get every single catch. And by that time you're

1268
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 5: like you're gonna y'all do the action over there. Listen

1269
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 5: as Zo say, Man, you ain't gonnalet me catch the ball?

1270
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 5: Say hell no, why would I do such a thing.

1271
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 5: I ain't let you because I know once you catch that,

1272
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 5: it's missing make because you that good, I could play

1273
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 5: great defense, but it's missing makee.

1274
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: So I'm a check. I'mna sweep my eyes just a

1275
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: little more. I'll make a hafer you even catch that.

1276
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: And I think for forty eight minutes if you wear

1277
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 5: on that, TA telling you, if you over the forty

1278
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: eight minute game, you gotta continue that that. It's a

1279
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: lot of mental toughness not getting discouraed. Yeah, I was

1280
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 5: gonna say. That's why I was going. It takes a

1281
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 5: lot of mental toughness because you see a lot of guys,

1282
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: you know, they they put their head.

1283
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, not only not only talking about it, they're only

1284
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: talking about forty eight minutes. You're talking about seven games

1285
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: of forty eight minutes.

1286
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1287
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 3: Like and and we're a lot of times you win.

1288
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: That battle is in between the games. It's a bickering

1289
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: with the coaching staff first. And I don't know about

1290
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: t A, but my hood is gonna let me know

1291
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: if I get fried. So he got both of us

1292
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: because your home wasn't gona.

1293
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: Let you know that. I tell people hard the part

1294
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 5: of the reason why I play so hard against Dirk,

1295
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 5: because if I didn't, Hey, what that Germany couts your

1296
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 5: ass telling you not though, that's the first call I'm

1297
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: gonna get. I ain't even got I ain't talking to

1298
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 5: my mama yet. But I ain't talking to my mama

1299
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 5: yet before my homeboys and letting boy, you got your

1300
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 5: fried by that Germany. That is just like you, you

1301
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 5: playing for pride all kinds of when you know for.

1302
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Sure, for sure, and it's and it's a it's a

1303
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: it's a it's a competitive like kick off from start

1304
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: to finish. It's like, you want to have more points

1305
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: than them. You got this more mentality. You want to

1306
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: have more rebounds than them. You want to stop him

1307
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: from I'm talking about catching you on the flexs.

1308
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: You got to have that mentality, bro.

1309
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: If you ain't got that mentality at this time, whether

1310
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: and pantention details keeps a lot of people.

1311
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, we get them them books like this is

1312
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: what yeah, what they're doing.

1313
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: They get out them books, right, I know they You

1314
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: got them, folks, Go home, man, throw that book right

1315
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: on the col and get the plan Call of Duty.

1316
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 5: Paytention detail. You got Shane Gilly in the show. I'm

1317
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: telling you, man, I got it. And you know who

1318
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 5: was great at that Shane down and that shame was

1319
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: just over your tendencies. Yeah, and we'll see you and

1320
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: make sure he tried to send you to your week.

1321
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: To shame shame.

1322
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: Shane. Shane was SHAMEE was analytical.

1323
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: Shame was analytical before the analytical thing like he looks

1324
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: that I said, okay, you're forty eight percent going that way,

1325
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: you're thirty. I'm sending you the thirty. I'm playing to odds,

1326
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't care if I'm uncomfortable.

1327
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: Because at that time.

1328
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 5: The problem with that though, at that time I was

1329
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 5: like you t I was like you, I'm just run

1330
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,439
Speaker 5: through a brick wall, exactly whatever.

1331
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of.

1332
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: What I got to get.

1333
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 5: You got a weekend. I'm gonna try to see you there.

1334
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 5: But if all else fails me and you I like

1335
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 5: me exactly, I wasn't. I wasn't with all the analytics

1336
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: right away. I got into that further along with Shane,

1337
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 5: and then I always thought like, all.

1338
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: Right, like he said, and Shane actually set me down

1339
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: told me the same thing. But what I had disagree

1340
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: with Shane was like, Okay, that jet you talking about

1341
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: that thirty percent? That thirty percent just might be the

1342
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: time he turned great, I'm not just about to give

1343
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: you this shot because I got video so called week

1344
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. And always I didn't think

1345
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: numbers would be as effective as day out of day,

1346
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: but back then he was definitely on it before I

1347
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: could even seeing it being the thing around the league.

1348
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: Before we let you go, we got a couple more things,

1349
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: but I want to do some fan questions because we

1350
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: got a bunch of them from you getting on here,

1351
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: all right, come on uh.

1352
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 4: Bending Ward thirteen.

1353
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: What is your favorite Memphis memory? Man?

1354
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: My favorite Memphis memory, I'll tell you my favorite. My

1355
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: favorite Memphis memory is when I had when it I

1356
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: was feeling so good about making the playoffs, Bro, I

1357
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: was feeling so good I'm talking about I was like,

1358
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: I was so turned bro, because we hadn't won. We

1359
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: hadn't even been there in a while, I guess. But

1360
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: I went and got a grizzly put in the back

1361
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: of my head. I went and got a grizzy y'all

1362
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 2: gonna get the this y'all. But I had when he

1363
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: got a grizzly put in my head, Bro. And when

1364
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: I got the grizzy put in my head, I'm thinking,

1365
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: my homeboy them, I'm thinking z Bo.

1366
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking they with it like man, he believes,

1367
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: believe that's that's what you got.

1368
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: The gonna be man, folks, folks roast the heller. They said,

1369
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: we got a wait a minute, we got people sick

1370
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: all about I would like, Bro, I was listen, people

1371
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: don't know.

1372
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: I thought that was the hardest listen. But over the years,

1373
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: as I looked back, that grizzly sick. No, man, that's

1374
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: funny over Yeah, that was probably one of the one

1375
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: of the biggest moments.

1376
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 5: I got one more before we go because we talked

1377
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 5: about how you would stop s g A. I gotta

1378
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 5: ask you, how would you stop brusting? Because he gets

1379
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 5: he got the fire going on, so how would you

1380
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: stop brunting? And after brusting, I gotta ask you, how

1381
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 5: would you stop?

1382
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: Man?

1383
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 5: It was my last two how would you stop brusting? Honestly,

1384
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 5: I think I think you We used the word slowing down.

1385
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 5: How would you slow him down? That's a bit much,

1386
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 5: But I gotta.

1387
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: Say if with brunsting, I'm to see what he what

1388
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: he's doing to his right hand, you know what I'm saying.

1389
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: I want to see him going to his weekend more.

1390
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: I see a lot of I mean his left hand.

1391
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: I want to go into a strong hand more, you

1392
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: feel I'm saying. And these guys, I say that because

1393
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: they get to their spots and create space. So you

1394
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta be willing to fight these guys bumps

1395
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: be physical and you're fighting the ref too, but you

1396
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: really ain't fighting the ref if you go to the

1397
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: ref and hollering them to be first seed, yeah, first sea.

1398
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: But other than that, he initiates all the contact. These

1399
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: guards you name, it initiates all the contact. And like

1400
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: I said, it's similar to shade. Once they get to

1401
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: that me and Ring Pulley, they they push you to

1402
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: the point where they want just a little creating space

1403
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: and if you can manage to hold it, push off

1404
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: and still be able to move your feet, because once

1405
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: you get pushed off balance, you gotta realize your feet slipped.

1406
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody getting pushed in and being able to still

1407
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: stay in one spot. So you gotta close the space

1408
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: back up and be able to contest. And it ain't

1409
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: gonna be no two three times as well you do it.

1410
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: It might be four five time where you don't you

1411
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: don't even matter to him. But the last ten twelve

1412
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: times of that, those possessions of the game. I'm pretty

1413
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: sure that shot ain't as effective as it was went

1414
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 2: on his asd And as far as I think, I

1415
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 2: think he the one that probably got me, like because

1416
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: it's it's like you can't if he east to west,

1417
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: you you know what I mean, he could pull up

1418
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: man from forty. Now you know what I'm saying. His

1419
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: brains just got extended. Then if you push him left,

1420
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: he take off. He might take off, go left and

1421
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: point and you know it on your head, yass. And

1422
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: then if he go right, he just as strong as

1423
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: going to the other way to dunk you the other way.

1424
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying. So it ain't really no

1425
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 5: weakness in his day. He figured out that trap they

1426
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 5: start sending them too at him. He figured that out.

1427
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, figured that out. He figured it out.

1428
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: Start coming up with huge assists. I like that, but

1429
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: I don't know it's he playing. He tough, bro, and

1430
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: I don't got no answer.

1431
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1432
01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: Listen.

1433
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: I've never been FIR team, never been twenty A team,

1434
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: but I've watched a lot of basketball, right, And the

1435
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 3: biggest thing you mentioned about all three of those guys,

1436
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean you you're never gonna stop him.

1437
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 4: You try to slow them down.

1438
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Everything I've seen in the playof basket when you're sucessful,

1439
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: the best players, make them inefficient, keep them all the

1440
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: foul line exact. Because you talked about both of them.

1441
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 3: Brunson lives with the foul line. Shay, She's twelve thirteen

1442
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: of them a game right and finds. So it's trying

1443
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 3: to make them inefficient, like they're gonna they're more than

1444
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: more than likely to walk away with twenty plus points.

1445
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what they said. You want to put

1446
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: on right.

1447
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: So what you want, what you want is a forty

1448
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 3: eight percent from the field that night and six free

1449
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: throws last game.

1450
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: But with yes, but with that, he said, that's hardish.

1451
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 5: You gotta get him there exactly. It ain't gonna be

1452
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 5: easy to take you, no doubt. You ain'tna be easy

1453
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: to take me there. By a point that you made,

1454
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 5: that's great. And I think a lot of people don't

1455
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 5: recognize about offensive players, and you made this point is

1456
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 5: a lot of people think when you're a left handed

1457
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 5: basketball player as a big you want to come up

1458
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 5: and set the screen on the side so they can

1459
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 5: go to the left immediately. I always just to set

1460
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 5: the screen on the way left pads. I always just

1461
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 5: set the screen on d a right hand because he's

1462
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 5: going to go left, so I know I'm gonna send

1463
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 5: him to his rights just so he can cross over

1464
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 5: go left and get that step back and get to

1465
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 5: his spot with his left hand. So a lot of

1466
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 5: times I would set it on his strong hand just

1467
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 5: because I know he going back left to get to

1468
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 5: that step back. Yeah, when you set that side, when

1469
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 5: you said that on brust and hand, I love what

1470
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 5: you said because a lot of times if you said

1471
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 5: it on, if you set it on the left hand side,

1472
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 5: he gonna cross over get.

1473
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: To that right just so he get to that step back.

1474
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 5: So send him to his left and try to keep

1475
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 5: him over there and overt's see how good.

1476
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Because you get in his pocket. You got too much

1477
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: and I ain't worried about you finishing over none of

1478
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: the big so I know it's easier. Said that done.

1479
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: We're just going over strategies. We get that that's what set.

1480
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: Him up to get into that that that little position

1481
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: where they want to bump and then in the fade.

1482
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: So it's all about just really smelling this cologne early.

1483
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: Let's smell this cologne. Let's get it the smell earlyer.

1484
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, you gotta know soon you walk in this

1485
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 5: man is on me. Yeah like that another part of

1486
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 5: it too. I believe I got irritate that.

1487
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: My fan questions, smells clone early is fantastic?

1488
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: Three or five? Dawn who is the hardest person to

1489
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 4: guard in the league. When you play.

1490
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: Well. We all know Kobe the Black Mama would go

1491
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: without saying, but as of.

1492
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: I can, it was all tough man. I ain't gonna

1493
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: let everybody was tough man. I faced every My job

1494
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: was to go yeah every year, I mean every game,

1495
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: the maxed out players, whoever was maxed out at the

1496
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: guard spot.

1497
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 4: I had to. I had to.

1498
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: If I had to pick, I'm gonna have to go KD, bro.

1499
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: And when I say KD, it's because it's like when

1500
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: they was running that that that pinned down accident. And

1501
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: if I get caught late, or or if he catches

1502
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: whenever he catches and he decides to pull, the contest

1503
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: of the shot is like my like when I reached

1504
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: my arm out there, it's like like right here in

1505
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: this form, and it's like I would foul him. I

1506
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: would get him to the line. You know, that's the

1507
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: cardinal sin and basketball, you find a three point shooter.

1508
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: So it was hard.

1509
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: And then he's six eleven coming at you full speed

1510
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: with a pull up he pole.

1511
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: How could you stop that?

1512
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: But then not only that, when he come down at

1513
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: you full speed, he might slow it down, call for

1514
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: the pick.

1515
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: He rejects the pick. Man. Now when you come up,

1516
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: if you get hit by that pick, he might take

1517
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Speaker 1: off upstairs on you.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing to you, man, Like people want

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Speaker 1: Trey Ball was fire at.

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Speaker 4: The rim man.

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Speaker 1: Last question, what's your favorite defensive play in your career?

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Speaker 4: There gotta be one on.

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Speaker 1: My favorite defensive play.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's huge, I'm gona say, y'all want we

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Speaker 2: were playing, We was playing the Lakers twenty ten finals,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Paul was all he was.

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Speaker 1: He was out there working. He's out there working. And

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Speaker 1: I had saw the play.

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Speaker 2: He had got good position on she in the post

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Speaker 2: and I came out of nowhere. I blocked it with

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Speaker 1: I had to keep I had to keep playing.

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Speaker 4: It was contract man.

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Speaker 2: When it got it with too man, listen, man, want

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Speaker 2: I got to make this one work. But yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was that was a it was meaningful basketball and uh

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Speaker 1: A big block.

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