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Speaker 1: of Vigeon podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Patriots talking like everybody else, talk the ball for a

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Speaker 2: Talk of the Town.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: You don't like the attention now, No, I just don't

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 3: All these people are telling me that Drake May needed

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Speaker 3: to sit for three years and now is the MVP

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Speaker 3: of the league.

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Speaker 1: Talk of the Town.

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Speaker 3: Stay on that side, Dane Orlovsky, Oh wow, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll name names.

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Speaker 1: His footwork.

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Speaker 4: It just wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: Bill, Well we're now, Oh yeah, where's that one?

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Speaker 2: Coach killer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, coach killer, MVP of the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can kill you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so will.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening or someone from your family, don't worry

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: Be pissed. No, thank you Friz for this con where Keith.

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Speaker 4: But I didn't expect it to look like this. I

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Speaker 4: thought they could win games.

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Speaker 3: Or reformation ending the games in the third quarter. If

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Speaker 3: we make this a nine point game, it's it's over.

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Speaker 3: Like they're not scoring seventeen against US buff But it's Josa,

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Speaker 3: one of the ogs.

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Speaker 2: He's an oh you think he's an og pype? Four guys,

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Speaker 2: how's Barth doing? I always like to do a wellness

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Speaker 2: check on him.

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Speaker 4: This was one of the.

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Speaker 3: Rare games that we didn't talk a ton after the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right. This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium, and uh it's Evan Paul Duce Fred

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Speaker 2: Alex in the booth and we'll get right to the

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Speaker 2: news that broke last night. I mean not huge uh

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Speaker 2: you know, Luka Doncic type news. But there were some

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Speaker 2: trades this a week before the trade deadline, a couple

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Speaker 2: of trades, so who wants to im part on what

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Speaker 2: the details were?

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Speaker 6: Was the first one to drop to San Francisco along

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Speaker 6: with a seventh round pick, and they got a sixth

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Speaker 6: round pick back. And then Kyle Duggart Pittsburgh, he just

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Speaker 4: No same thing.

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Speaker 2: So the seven I heard, I heard if Keon actually

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Speaker 2: plays a certain amount, they don't have to give the seventh.

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Speaker 3: That's accurate. That's accurate. Seven games with San Francisco, they

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Speaker 3: would not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not that it matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so so let's talk about this because you

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Speaker 2: know two players who at the beginning of the year

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Speaker 4: It depended on when you thought that. I would have

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Speaker 4: thought that the whole off season, but not the last

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Speaker 2: With ke On White, we had hopes that he'd find

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Speaker 6: I think Evan nailed it. Yesterday I brought up saying,

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Speaker 6: you know, who would trade for ke On White? What's

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Speaker 6: I there was some hype on Key on White a

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Speaker 2: Well that was the thing coming out of college. It's like,

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Speaker 1: But he had these traits classic tweener, yeah, and athletic.

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Speaker 6: But to me, he was just always so stiff, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's just he could tell that it wasn't gonna click quick.

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Speaker 2: And I think the Dugger one was well, I think

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Speaker 3: Well, they ripped the last two years of the contract,

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Speaker 3: he just never fit. He never fit that type. Now

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Speaker 3: I have a little disappointed. I thought Mike Rabel and

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Speaker 1: A long time. And you could see right out of

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Speaker 6: And what I what I thought was interesting too, was

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Speaker 6: But now they have Peppers and dugger two guys that

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Speaker 6: I think they've been trying to maybe move that guy

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Speaker 4: It's just that they based on what they wanted to

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Speaker 4: The New Orleans Games started twice yeah, so New Orlens

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he started right in the Orleans game, Well

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he played and he was out there. So

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Speaker 4: they went out and they signed a safety from Miami

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Speaker 1: It is a crazy ip sort of.

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Speaker 3: You know, Dugger goes from one snap in Buffalo in

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Speaker 3: so I'm with Paul like that. There was a role

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Speaker 3: Hawkins and Woodson. Now they're paying most of his salary

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Speaker 3: this year anyways, So it's not a money thing in

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Speaker 3: twenty five. It's a money thing in twenty six and

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Speaker 3: that extension for big money, and now those years come

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Speaker 3: for those two seasons, So this was about getting out

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Speaker 1: Where we've got injury issues here. He's good insurance.

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Speaker 1: I hope so. And we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: But defensively, I think there's an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to catch edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: That's where I start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that you know, doing this a

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Speaker 4: Like why not?

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Speaker 3: You know they would have Dugger to play in the

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Speaker 4: That was also part of it, Like it was pretty

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Speaker 6: I think it also just puts a period on the

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Speaker 6: And it might just be as simple as that Sounders

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Speaker 3: Their seaball get ball defense at safety. He's a seventh

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Speaker 2: While he's I know, but like you know, if we

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Speaker 3: Because I think PFF grades to me are pass fail

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Speaker 3: this left guard because he stinks, right, like that sort

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Speaker 3: I think he's an average player at his position right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, once they kind of figured out that he's

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Speaker 3: I think he's been been better. He was good in

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Speaker 2: I just feel like every time we bring up PFF,

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Speaker 3: That I was just piggybacking off of du because he

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Speaker 3: grading you know, pass defense interceptions tackles, run stuffs like

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean six games, two interceptions, you know, two

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Speaker 1: I don't know if those are the sacks, but.

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Speaker 6: Just I think it's more just to illustrate not the player,

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Speaker 6: I know, but the opportunity to do it of what

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Speaker 1: And I look and give him some credit.

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Speaker 6: He's you know, he's he's around the body.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't you said yesterday, they don't. They stay away

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they are.

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Speaker 4: Never saw the field again.

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Speaker 3: So like they have an issue there with covering tight ends.

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Speaker 3: But I think in general, Hawkins has been all right,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Woodson hasn't had the production like that those numbers,

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Speaker 1: And you know, all over the place.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going to make.

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Speaker 3: That pick, but like trade up to the top five.

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Speaker 6: That kind of player in this system feels like it

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Speaker 6: We talk Devin mccordy didn't make a lot of plays

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Speaker 4: They play a lot of his own.

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Speaker 3: So like this defense, you know, the old defense, they're

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Speaker 3: how great it. It's been you know, like twenty eighth

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Wednesday is turn the page day, so

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Speaker 2: Oh no? I mean that the Falcons you're looking ahead

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's just a joke.

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Speaker 2: Just listen to the We all know the Falcons have

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Speaker 4: It's the perfect time to play the most trick or

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Speaker 2: Right, So which which costume are they going to be

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Speaker 2: And that's what you have to assume.

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Speaker 1: Start with Penis in London. You know, what's their status

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Speaker 4: Sounds like it's trending, sounds like they're getting a lot

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Speaker 6: So I you know, I I welcome that. I want

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Speaker 6: who I think is you know, I wasn't really not.

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Speaker 6: He's not usually my kind of receiver. Those are kind

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Speaker 4: Right, if if Panix plays well, then it's going to

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Speaker 4: ton of mobility. No one's going to confuse him with

441
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Speaker 4: Drake may on Sunday, you know, buying time and moving

442
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Speaker 4: around and picking up first downs, a lot of first

443
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Speaker 4: downs with his legs, but he can throw, and you know,

444
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Speaker 4: if he gets in a rhythm and he gets hot,

445
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 4: and then you get b Jon Robinson rolling, It's an

446
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Speaker 4: offense that can stretch you. They haven't done it consistently,

447
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Speaker 4: and you can.

448
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Speaker 3: Just I mean, they're twenty eighth in the league in scoring.

449
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're down the bottom and everything. But even if

450
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Speaker 4: you just look at him, it's like thirty four twenty four,

451
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Speaker 4: and then they follow it up with ten and ten

452
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Speaker 4: like so there's just no consistency with with what they're

453
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Speaker 4: doing offensively. The numbers Evan just set them. They're they're

454
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Speaker 4: right down there with Tennessee in Cleveland. I mean, they're

455
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Speaker 4: only a couple of notches above those two teams that

456
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Speaker 4: you just saw. Now, I would say, what's holding them back?

457
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Speaker 4: Personnel wise?

458
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Speaker 1: Scheme?

459
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Speaker 4: Personnel wise. This is a much better team than than

460
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Speaker 4: those teams. Yeah, yeah, but they're getting they have a chance.

461
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Speaker 4: They get a lot of guys back to They had

462
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Speaker 4: four starters missing on defense when the game ended the

463
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Speaker 4: other day, and Raheem Morris said on Monday that he

464
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Speaker 4: thinks it's he had some pretty good optimism. Zach Harrison,

465
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Speaker 4: Jalen Walker, Billy Bowman, and Jesse Bates who got hurt

466
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Speaker 4: in the Miami game. The other three didn't play at

467
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Speaker 4: all in the game. They think there's a chance that

468
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Speaker 4: all of those guys will be back, as well as

469
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Speaker 4: London and Penix will have a chance. So if they

470
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Speaker 4: get those guys back personnel wise, I think it's a

471
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Speaker 4: bigger challenge than what you've seen in the last month.

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Speaker 6: They have some good, you know, passing statistic numbers for

473
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Speaker 6: their defense that you know, maybe points to some more

474
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Speaker 6: challenges for the Patriots passing attack and maybe some opportunities

475
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Speaker 6: to continue to get the running game going for the Patriots,

476
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Speaker 6: you know, try to you know, maybe that maybe they

477
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Speaker 6: lean a little more to the run this week. I

478
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Speaker 6: don't know, but you know, I think it's it's weird

479
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Speaker 6: because Atlanta they don't have a lot of household names

480
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Speaker 6: on their defense. There's not like really a superstar talent

481
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Speaker 6: to really point to. There's some solid players, you know,

482
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Speaker 6: Christian Ellis's brother plays a ton as one of their

483
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Speaker 6: linebackers with Diablo, But it's like you look at so

484
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Speaker 6: that's what's hard with me. As you look at this,

485
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Speaker 6: it's like usually circle the big players and now it's

486
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Speaker 6: like they you know, it seems like the offense they

487
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Speaker 6: play well in spurts and they're pretty good against the past,

488
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Speaker 6: but I don't think they've allowed a three hundred yard

489
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Speaker 6: passer yet.

490
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Speaker 3: Having a lot of two hundred yards. Yeah, they their

491
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Speaker 3: pass defense is legitimate. Like their defense in general is

492
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Speaker 3: really good. And you know, they they kind of run

493
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Speaker 3: like the new version of the Seattle three, so it's

494
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Speaker 3: a lot of zone coverage, you know, cover three quarters,

495
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Speaker 3: but on a third down they they have like this

496
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Speaker 3: pressure package that's like Brian Flores esque that they run

497
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Speaker 3: on third down that I did not see coming and

498
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Speaker 3: I was like.

499
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Speaker 1: Whoa, Like where's the tie here?

500
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Speaker 3: Like, you know, they're running a lot of like fire

501
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Speaker 3: zones and zone pressure and things like that, and do teams.

502
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Speaker 2: Do teams uh not pass well against them because they

503
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Speaker 2: they can run or.

504
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Speaker 3: I think there's an argument to be made that the

505
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Speaker 3: yards are being held down by game script, whether it's

506
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Speaker 3: running the football or short fields or whatever the case

507
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Speaker 3: may be. But they're really good in all the opponent

508
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 3: adjusted stuff too, Like you know, DVOA and things like

509
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Speaker 3: that have them you know, pretty high as well. In

510
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Speaker 3: pass not first in the league, not best in the league,

511
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Speaker 3: but still top ten in the NFL. So their run

512
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Speaker 3: defenses has been weak, and they've specifically struggled a lot

513
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Speaker 3: against gap schemes, you know, schemes with pollers and downhill

514
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: runs and things like that. And that's Josh mcdaniels's bread

515
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Speaker 3: and butter, like if you can't stop you know, power

516
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Speaker 3: and full backs and things like that. Like Josh McDaniels

517
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Speaker 3: has got plenty of that in his bag. So if

518
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Speaker 3: I was the Patriots, I would think that that's where

519
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Speaker 3: they start, is trying to run the ball to start

520
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: this game, and then maybe you can get some of

521
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Speaker 3: the play action passes to open them up a little

522
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Speaker 3: bit because they they don't give up very many explosives

523
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Speaker 3: on defense. They're second in the league and explosive play

524
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Speaker 3: rate on defense. So this is a true strength on strength,

525
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Speaker 3: like number one pass defense, number two in explosive play

526
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Speaker 3: rate against one of the most explosive passing offenses in football.

527
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Speaker 3: With Drake May kind of.

528
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Speaker 6: Like you have to go into the minutia a little bit.

529
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Speaker 6: It's not like you can just say Miles Garrett. They've

530
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Speaker 6: got Miles Garrett and we just talked about Miles Garet,

531
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Speaker 6: Miles Garrett, but it is a it is a good

532
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Speaker 6: matchup that, like Evan said, I think we'll test some

533
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Speaker 6: of what we've seen from the Patriots.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I will say and this is just anecdotal because

536
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Speaker 4: I don't break down the tape as you guys know,

537
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Speaker 4: like the way Evan and Mike do. But with Jeff

538
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Speaker 4: Albrick as their defensive coordinator, and you guys remember him

539
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Speaker 4: from the Jets, yep, you know, he was the interim

540
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: guy who took over, but he was a defensive coordinator

541
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Speaker 4: with New York and one of the things that the

542
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Speaker 4: Jets did really well was defend Josh Allen. You know what,

543
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Speaker 4: Buffalo had some some like kind of slogs against the Jets.

544
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Speaker 4: They always beat them, The Bills would always find a

545
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Speaker 4: way to win the game, but they had some slogs

546
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Speaker 4: against this defense. And then a couple of weeks ago

547
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Speaker 4: on a Monday Night, that's as bad as I've seen

548
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Speaker 4: Buffalo's offense look all year in that Monday night game.

549
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Speaker 4: So I kind of I'm not telling you that scheme.

550
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: I'm telling you this is a scheme similarity, but there's

551
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Speaker 4: a style similarity with May and Allen. He wants to

552
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Speaker 4: get the ball, you know, out of you know, not

553
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Speaker 4: necessarily one guy, but it's going to spread it around.

554
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Speaker 4: He's going to use his legs, he's going to buy time.

555
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: Albrick has had some success with that, so it might

556
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Speaker 4: be something to keep an eye on.

557
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's running the you know that that was Robert

558
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Speaker 3: Sola's defense in New York and that's his mentor, that's

559
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 3: you know, the guy that taught Ulbrick a lot of

560
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Speaker 3: this stuff. And it's the same system. It's the same

561
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Speaker 3: system they're running with the Jets, same system Solos running

562
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Speaker 3: with San Francisco on their defense right now as well

563
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 3: offensively for the Falcons. I did a little bit of

564
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Speaker 3: a rant on this at the end of Catch twenty two.

565
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Speaker 3: Their offense pisses me off, frankly, because when you have

566
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Speaker 3: that much talent on offense and you're twenty eighth in

567
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Speaker 3: the league and scoring, that is a coaching issue.

568
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Speaker 2: That is a quarterback issue.

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Speaker 3: It's it's coaching like you don't have Bijon Robinson, Drake London,

570
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Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, Darnell Mooney, a decent offensive line and score

571
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Speaker 3: seventeen points a game like that that doesn't the bat

572
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Speaker 3: doesn't Matt there. They motion a ton. I think all

573
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Speaker 3: of the motion, the pistol. They run a ton of

574
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Speaker 3: pistol formation. It's like all this like fancy cool stuff

575
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 3: that they do, and then you snap the ball and

576
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Speaker 3: it's just vanilla like. They run the same stuff. They

577
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Speaker 3: don't threaten the middle of the field, which is a

578
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Speaker 3: big reason why they struggle against man coverage like this,

579
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Speaker 3: this scheme.

580
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Speaker 4: I like Zach Robinson.

581
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Speaker 3: I think he does some creative things with Bijon, especially

582
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Speaker 3: he's he's losing me. He's on the outside right now.

583
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Speaker 6: But do you think that they have enough to scheme

584
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Speaker 6: up the Patriots defense on the first two drives?

585
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Speaker 3: Again, they have enough to be a good offense, like

586
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Speaker 3: this should be a much better, much better offense than

587
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Speaker 3: it is. I think the biggest issue that they have

588
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Speaker 3: with the quarterback is that he's not mobile, which kills

589
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Speaker 3: them because all the pistol stuff that they're doing is

590
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Speaker 3: kind of watered down because they don't have a mobile quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

592
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Speaker 3: And then he doesn't throw the middle of the field,

593
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: so Pennix only wants to throw verticals, and he wants

594
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Speaker 3: to throw outside the numbers, it's all. That's the only

595
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: thing that he does. He's last in the league. And

596
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Speaker 3: the percentage of passes that travel into the middle of

597
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Speaker 3: the field. And when you pay teams that play a

598
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Speaker 3: lot of man coverage against you crossers, slants in breaking routes, like,

599
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 3: that's how you beat man coverage. And if your quarterback

600
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Speaker 3: isn't willing to read the middle of the field out

601
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Speaker 3: and throw the ball there, then you're just throwing iceo

602
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: go balls on the outside against man to man, and

603
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: that's how you have a You know, those are fifty

604
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Speaker 3: to fifty propositions in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: For the Patriots too, I'd say, like, yeah, you know,

606
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 6: you want to target the middle of the field. You

607
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Speaker 6: want to target the linebackers and the safeties on the

608
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Speaker 6: cornerback or the tight ends and the bringbacks too.

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they are they're dead last in the league

610
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 3: a EPA against man coverage.

611
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Speaker 1: So the worst offense in the league against We're going

612
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: back to man this week, huh and like.

613
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: By quite a bit. Like it's a pretty big gap

614
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Speaker 3: between them and the next team.

615
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Speaker 2: Eddie and La writes and Deduce just call London a

616
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: complimentary piece. Brother that is a wide receiver one learn

617
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Speaker 2: ball deuce. Aha jokes aside, I'm very excited to see

618
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: Gonzo or Davis manned up on London, so hopefully he

619
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Speaker 2: suits up complimentary.

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Speaker 6: I didn't mean to call him a commeminary piece, but

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Speaker 6: I just I said generally, I don't like those kind

622
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 6: of receivers get sold to me a lot.

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Speaker 1: In the draft, and I just don't like them. I

624
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 1: don't gravitate towards them.

625
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Speaker 6: And I get that he's one of the few that's

626
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 6: very athletic and has the size, but like I like

627
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 6: guys with some explosion who can you know, I don't

628
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 6: like separators, like separators, you know, I like the guys

629
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Speaker 6: that you know, I love a J.

630
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Speaker 7: Brown.

631
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 6: You know, I just love physical shorter receipt not shorter.

632
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 6: I don't want to say that, but you know, the

633
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 6: tall former basketball players who can jump up and make

634
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 6: can tested catches, they don't usually flip vote.

635
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Speaker 3: He's a good player, but like he's a really good player.

636
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: But if you look at his metrics, like he fits

637
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: this whole thing of like he's a zone beating receiver,

638
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna find the soft spots, he's gonna run

639
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: the seams. He's gonna find those areas of the zone coverages.

640
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: But his separation numbers now, he's a contested catch guy,

641
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: so like you have to throw him back shoulders, and

642
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: you have to throw him high points, and you have

643
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: to throw him open, but his separation numbers against man

644
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: coverage are down near the bottom of the league.

645
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Speaker 2: Well, this is one where I think you do put

646
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: whether it's Davis or Gonzo, you put him one on

647
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: one so that he can't pick, he can't hunt those

648
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: matchups like you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that this is a man coverage game.

650
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: Now when I unpack that, Kyle Pitts and Bijon Robinson

651
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: become a problem.

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00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 7: Yeah.

653
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: Right, So that that's.

654
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Speaker 3: Really where I think this can unravel on the Patriots

655
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: in terms of the man to man approach is who's

656
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Speaker 3: covering the tight end and who's covering Bijon.

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00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: So that's where it.

658
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Speaker 3: Gets tricky, is like they don't they have three good

659
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Speaker 3: corners that can cover the receivers, Like I think Marcus

660
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Speaker 3: Jones matches up against Darnell Mooney and Gonzales and Davis

661
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: match up against Drake London. But as we get to

662
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Speaker 3: the tight end and the running back. I don't know

663
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Speaker 3: where you go and.

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Speaker 1: Do you go Davis on Pitts?

665
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Speaker 3: Maybe you think I think that's a possibility. They haven't

666
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Speaker 3: done that yet with.

667
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Speaker 4: The seventh graded safety on them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's not what he's found that he's said.

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Speaker 2: So I would agree with you if you go back

670
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Speaker 2: to the old Bill Belichick way. Is there one guy

671
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Speaker 2: like if you had to pick, we're going to take

672
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Speaker 2: him out? Is it Jean Robinson?

673
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the engine of their offense.

674
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Speaker 3: But their Patriots run defense has been so good that

675
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Speaker 3: I'm not totally concerned about him as a runner.

676
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Speaker 2: Right, I'm not either, I am. I really don't know

677
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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about him as a receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that him as a receiver is a problem, And

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Speaker 3: I don't really know how Like you could say, like

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Speaker 3: I love the Carlton Davis idea, like that's a I

681
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: would be a great wrinkle. I don't know what that

682
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Speaker 3: is on Bijon, Like you're not gonna put a corner

683
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Speaker 3: on him?

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Speaker 1: Like, so, I don't know, hope done on that play?

685
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Speaker 1: He just got up closer.

686
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know you you want them to to

687
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Speaker 3: play trail in that position where like he runs right

688
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Speaker 3: directly behind Fannin and so that when the pick comes,

689
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Speaker 3: he's literally like right behind him in his hip and

690
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Speaker 3: that way there he can avoid the pick. You probably

691
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Speaker 3: might still give up the catch, but then you can

692
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Speaker 3: just make the tackle and you know, get off the field.

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Speaker 2: Jacket and Arbor with his and his weekly uh stutter

694
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Speaker 2: stiff list for the Falcons this week. Stutter stiff Michael

695
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Speaker 2: Pennox stiftiff really Bjeon Robinson, Drake London, Mike Hughes.

696
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Speaker 4: More of a stiff stiff.

697
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Speaker 3: If I was them, Kai Shan Boody On Mikey were bombing,

698
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: We're bombing. He's given up more touchdowns on deep passes

699
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Speaker 3: than any corner in football so far this year. So

700
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Speaker 3: I guarantee you you're going to see at least one

701
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Speaker 3: shot Watts.

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Speaker 4: Good player. He's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited about him. I really liked him in

704
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Speaker 3: the draft.

705
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Speaker 4: I don't know as much about him.

706
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Speaker 6: Giving up all the big plays if they're good against explosives,

707
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Speaker 6: but he stinks at it, yes, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously you don't want to throw at a J.

709
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Speaker 3: Terrell too often like I would.

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of the more underrated players in

711
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Speaker 4: the league. No one ever talks about him the way

712
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: they talk about like Gonzo and certain and you know

713
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: those kinds of corners. You know, Derek Stingley.

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Speaker 6: The closest thing, probably do a star on that defense.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Jesse Bates was very good. He's been a

716
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Speaker 6: really good player for a few years too.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I wrote that he was a Pro bowler

719
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Speaker 3: and then I looked up and he's never made the

720
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, and that like blew my mind because I

721
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Speaker 3: think he's with Paul. I think he's one of the

722
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Speaker 3: better cover safety corners excuse me in the league. But

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Speaker 3: their other corner my cues can be can be picked on.

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Speaker 2: All right. So Vraable today at twelve fifty five.

725
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Speaker 4: A little later, little later pushed it back because evidently

726
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Speaker 4: they're working on a trade.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

728
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Speaker 4: You sound like the guys on the Sports Hub when

729
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: they say, Paul, what are they doing at the trade deadline?

730
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Speaker 2: You're in on those You said it very convincingly. I

731
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Speaker 2: thought maybe you had some knowledge.

732
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Speaker 4: I can I can dream, I can dream.

733
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Speaker 2: The press conference later, it's like that really cuts into

734
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Speaker 2: my eating time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was one.

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Speaker 3: He did this Titans week because he was talking about

737
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Speaker 3: Titans reporters. So I don't know what the push reason,

738
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Speaker 3: but it's a whole week next tomorrow, and Friday has

739
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Speaker 3: also been pushed back a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit by ten minutes.

741
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Speaker 2: Getting ready for uh the fall back with the clocks

742
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Speaker 2: on Sunday, Yeah, get ready.

743
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I think they're definitely, I mean we saw

744
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: what the intro is like. They're trying everything they can

745
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: to get faster starts, whether it's maybe practicing at a

746
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 3: different time or you know something. I I don't know

747
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: the intros. I think we're a big part of that,

748
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: trying to get some energy in the building before the

749
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Speaker 3: game started, So they're they're pulling out everything that they can.

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Speaker 4: I I haven't heard that theory before, and I like,

751
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Speaker 4: go starts some energy in the buildings the game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't get we only get a cut up

753
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Speaker 6: everything after the game.

754
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Speaker 4: So I'm working after the game.

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Speaker 3: Got me, and the press conference is working. I think

756
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: giving you credit the uh he doesn't like to go

757
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Speaker 3: back and I say Rabel doesn't like to go back

758
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: on trends with this team. But the four and sixteen

759
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: record at home since like the start of twenty three

760
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, I think that's one that's stuck

761
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Speaker 3: with him, like, we need to be a better home team.

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Speaker 3: And they were one and two to start the year

763
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Speaker 3: at home, so I think that he's aware that they

764
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Speaker 3: have not been good enough year at home and they Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the intros was to try to get the juices in

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Speaker 3: the stadium flowing a little bit more early on in

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it didn't work.

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Speaker 2: All right? Eight five five Pats five hundred is the

770
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Speaker 2: hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address.

771
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Speaker 2: Let's get people involved. We'll start with Todd and Gardner.

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Speaker 2: What's up Todd?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, I just wouldn't say that this year will

774
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Speaker 10: be successful if Evans follow up after the games after

775
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Speaker 10: further review, gets our rookies, all three of them starting

776
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Speaker 10: to be talked about. I feel like that is that's

777
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Speaker 10: a that's a sign of success for us.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so we got to get Kyle Williams more involved.

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Speaker 3: Oh I see, yeah, I was gonna say I talk

780
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Speaker 3: about everybody that plays, So now he's.

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Speaker 2: I think he's talking about the top three. Yeah.

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00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good game by Jared Wilson. Want to give

783
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Speaker 3: him some flowers?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

785
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and my camp for our quarterback is not one

786
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Speaker 10: that I think that Paula liked this. I went and

787
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Speaker 10: looked at Stafford the other day because I was watching

788
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Speaker 10: the Lions play, and then I was remembering Stafford was there,

789
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Speaker 10: and I was like, Stafford used.

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Speaker 9: To do some amazing things.

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Speaker 10: Stafford and our guy Drake are very similar in their

792
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Speaker 10: ability to roll out, extend to play, make those crazy throws. Yeah,

793
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Speaker 10: we don't have Megatron, but that would be more of

794
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 10: my calm than you know, the Bills boy. I really

795
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Speaker 10: think that he's more of like a young Stafford.

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Speaker 4: I think he has some Stafford, but I like he's

797
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Speaker 4: a better runner than.

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Speaker 3: Ste That's the difference to me is the running. But

799
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Speaker 3: I do see the way the angles they throw the ball,

800
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Speaker 3: you know, the you know, the the trick shots, the

801
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: oar Americans. So he just I'm gonna throw this anywhere.

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Speaker 2: With the throw to Hollins when he was going north

803
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Speaker 2: to south and he threw it, uh, kind of across

804
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: his body to the left hand side, was that a

805
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: no look past? I think it was.

806
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Speaker 3: He threw one to Pop that was a no look

807
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: past and maybe he maybe it was Pop. I didn't

808
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: care for it, but yeah, that was one of those

809
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Speaker 3: where it's like you're I think they were already up

810
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: sixteen to seven at that point, Like I don't need

811
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Speaker 3: to know look to the post safety going the other way,

812
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: like we can put that one in the back pocket.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he he has more of that, Like Stafford

814
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Speaker 3: has more of that like gunslinger trick shot thing to

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Speaker 3: him that I can see a little bit with Drake,

816
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Speaker 3: but I agree with Paul, he's much more mobile, the

817
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Speaker 3: better runner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and when Stafford was younger, Todd's right, he was

819
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Speaker 4: a better athlete. You know, he's you know, he's thirty

820
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Speaker 4: eight or whatever now with all those injuries. But even

821
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Speaker 4: in his prime, he wasn't the runner that Drake is.

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Speaker 4: He could move, but not like not like Drake Wolves

823
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Speaker 4: in Montreal.

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Speaker 2: He will.

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Speaker 11: Last week I called in about Miles Garrett and he

826
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Speaker 11: proceeded to well break the franchise record for the Browns.

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Speaker 11: How do we contain Dejon Robinson this week? And my

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Speaker 11: second question is do you guys know when the next

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Speaker 11: episode of Forge and foxbro and it's coming out?

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Speaker 2: You have to stay tuned, no set date, but just

831
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Speaker 2: stay tuned for the answer.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I mean I don't get too carried away thinking

833
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Speaker 6: about scheming up to stop Jon. They've been really good

834
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 6: team defense and that's been a weekly thing, so I

835
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Speaker 6: have some confidence that they'll make life tough. I think

836
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Speaker 6: the bigger concern is what Evan said, it's it's him

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Speaker 6: as a receiver and getting him, you know, out into

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Speaker 6: the Backfield's that's where the damage has been, especially like

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Speaker 6: you know, the Miami game.

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Speaker 2: So is let's just just focus on the running part

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Speaker 2: of Jon Robinson's game right now. The way the Patriots

842
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: have been playing against the run, is that sufficient or

843
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: is there something that they have to maybe bring somebody

844
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Speaker 2: down to help out against this guy.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, they've been one of the best run defenses

846
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Speaker 3: in football. And you know, this Falcons offense runs outside

847
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: zone more than any team in the league. So they're

848
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: going to put the quarterback and pistol, they're gonna put

849
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Speaker 3: Bijon behind him, and they're gonna run outside zone to

850
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: the right, and they're gonna run outside zone to the

851
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: right again, and then they'll probably do it fifteen more times.

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00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: So if you just load up on outside zone, they

853
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 3: like every once in a while will throw like an

854
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Speaker 3: inside zone or duo change up at you.

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Speaker 1: But it's not very frequent.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, you know, I think that this is a

857
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: lot of the yards that he's getting, Like they're only

858
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: like twenty something in rush EPA, Like they're not a

859
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: good run offense on the whole. But he's great. So

860
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Speaker 3: a lot of the yards he's getting is him. You know,

861
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Speaker 3: he's broken the most tackles in football. You know, he's

862
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Speaker 3: like up there in yards after contact top five in

863
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: the league and yards after contact, So they don't they

864
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: don't really do much to help him.

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Speaker 1: Like he's he's kind of just.

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Speaker 3: Like the run against Buffalo, he just breaks the tackle

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Speaker 3: and takes it eighty yards to the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike in Long Island, Mike, Mike, Hey, guys.

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Speaker 12: Hey, so is it time to retire the sacrificial X receiver?

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Speaker 2: Is it time to retire the sacrificial X receiver? I

871
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: have to explain that.

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Speaker 3: See, I don't think so, because I think Kaishan Booty

873
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Speaker 3: is playing the sacrificial X exactly how it's meant to

874
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: be played, like when.

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Speaker 13: He but it's not a sacrifice anymore.

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Speaker 14: He's been killing it.

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Speaker 9: He's got like every four points, So.

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Speaker 2: What you're saying, it's not a throwaway anymore.

879
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: So I think I get what he's saying, like, so

880
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, like in historically the sacrificial X with birth,

881
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: because they're just running wind sprints out there and clearing

882
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: out coverage and not necessarily getting the ball. But I

883
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: think that the good versions of that that they have

884
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: have gotten the ball, but they're just running a lot

885
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: of verticals. Like I used the Brandon Lafel comparison. I

886
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: think yesterday, like Brandon Lfel got plenty of targets in

887
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: the offense, but it wasn't a diverse route tree, and

888
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: he's sticked to the boundary and like that's exactly what

889
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: Kaisehan Boody's doing. So I think he's like a great

890
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: version of game.

891
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 4: Like it's not like Matthew Slater, like we're never going

892
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 4: to throw it to him, They're just gonna run down

893
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: there every play and we're never going to throw it

894
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: to you. Booty's been outstanding in that role. I agree

895
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 4: with everything you guys just said.

896
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: Well, I was just going to piggyback when you said

897
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 6: with Josh McDaniels micd Up talking and Booty saying appreciate

898
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 6: your patience. I think that's, you know, something you're going

899
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 6: to be the sacrificial lex. You have to have some patience.

900
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: You might only get three or four targets a game,

901
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 6: but if you're on point, they might be a sixty

902
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 6: yard touchdown bomb or you know, that.

903
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: Was the best miked up we've ever done.

904
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: Now, maybe not just because it was. I wonder why

905
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: it was a good week, it was.

906
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: It was the best one we've ever done. Listening you

907
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: know to some of the football stuff that we were

908
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 3: able to put in there about you know, him saying,

909
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: all right, we're going to motion over here, and he's

910
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: going to go over there.

911
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: There he goes, and like just.

912
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 3: Knowing, like before it even happens what was going to

913
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: play out.

914
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Turn your hips, turn your hips a little more inside.

915
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: There you go.

916
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: It's incredible, Like in the amount if you read the.

917
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: Comments on YouTube, people are just over the hill, over

918
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: the top.

919
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 6: What I said to Paul, I love too, is just

920
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 6: how he was so encouraging to Booty, and you know,

921
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 6: Booty saying, you know same. What impressed me was that

922
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: you got him to turn his hips in the details,

923
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 6: and Booty's saying, you know, like I'm listening to you,

924
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 6: and you know, you just you can tell when when

925
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 6: a player is buying what the coaches are selling.

926
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: And you know, we've had experiences.

927
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 6: Over the last few years where we had a lot

928
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 6: of questions if the players, you know, even believe the

929
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 6: coaches knew what they were doing. So, you know, I

930
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 6: think it's again it's another one of those things where

931
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: confidence equals production, which feeds more confidence, and you know,

932
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 6: now they're believing even more what those coaches are selling them.

933
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 6: So hopefully, hopefully Booty can keep it up. He's a

934
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 6: great story. I mean, you look at him as a

935
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 6: six round pick and what he's made himself into to

936
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: be a part of this offense. I don't know a

937
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 6: couple of years ago if anybody could have seen that

938
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: coming through two different regime changes that and all of

939
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 6: a sudden, Booty was going to be the one to

940
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 6: kind of emerge into a really solid role.

941
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, the level of detail, and I miked up of

942
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: like just the predictability factor, like you know, talking about

943
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: like the Hunter Henry touchdown and he's like, all right,

944
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: we're going to motion and this is what they're going

945
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: to do, and now we're in the flat and touchdown.

946
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: Then it's like like to be that prepared for the

947
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: opponent and know exactly how all the chess pieces on

948
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: the board were going to move on any play. Is

949
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: like it shows how much work they put into, you know,

950
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: studying these opponents and getting to know the defenses and stuff.

951
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: I like the Drake thing too, where he just said,

952
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 6: you know, give our guys a chance against the guys,

953
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 6: you should give them a chance again.

954
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel me? You know what I'm trying to say.

955
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: I felt part of that was he knew he was

956
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: miked up.

957
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: He didn't want to call out certain guys that they

958
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 6: knew were mismatches.

959
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: But no, I agree with that. I love that stuff.

960
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: Chase says he saw the clips with McDaniels. Seems like

961
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: he's doing a great job communicating with May on how

962
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: to read each play. Do you think this jump from

963
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: May comes from skill changes over the past year or

964
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: is it the effect of having the greatest o C

965
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 2: of all time?

966
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look at the whole the whole thing

967
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 6: is working right now. I think, you know, and we

968
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 6: can talk about what a coach's impact is.

969
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: But like Drake is just playing to his strengths. It's crazy.

970
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, his ability to run. I mean

971
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 6: I still think there's things to go. You know, there's

972
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 6: still places to go.

973
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 2: Connor and Saint Paul, great conversation the other day of

974
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: whether Josh McDaniels is a tight pants guy. Before there

975
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: were tight pants guy, there were visor guys. Josh never

976
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: gave up on the visor.

977
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: That's true, he is advisor guy. Yeah, okay, I could

978
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: hear that.

979
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

980
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, the improvement for Drake in

981
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: the pocket, his you know, pocket movement, the ball security

982
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: in the pocket, That to me is where he's I

983
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: think he could always throw the ball obviously, and he

984
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: could all I think he could read coverage at a

985
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: pretty high level too. I think he was doing that

986
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: his rookie season. But now they got him like understanding,

987
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: like the subtle movements in the pocket and not you

988
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: don't always need to move ten feet. Sometimes you only

989
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: need to move a little this way or a little

990
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: that way. And when he does it, he's, you know,

991
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: got two hands on the ball and he's protecting the

992
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: football while he's moving.

993
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 4: I think that that.

994
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: Growth has been you know, whether it's McDaniels or Ashton

995
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: Grant or whoever, like that, that's been very noticeable, all right.

996
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: Paul, you all right, Yeah, it look a little quiet today, A.

997
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: Lot of nose talk. Let I let the ball knowers

998
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 4: do that, right, Sorry Paul worries.

999
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: You could talk about x's and no's. You don't have

1000
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: to say that. You don't break it down. It's not

1001
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: my thing.

1002
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: No, Actually I just watch. I don't. I don't break

1003
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: it down. I've never watched a game over again, almost never.

1004
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: I commend you for that because I you see a

1005
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: lot for somebody that only watches.

1006
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: And I'm not exaggerating. I I can't remember the last

1007
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: time I rewatched a game like live. So in other words,

1008
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: on Monday, I'm watching the game that I can't remember

1009
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: the last time I did that, probably like oh two, yeah,

1010
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: oh three.

1011
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: I think there are different levels of it, though, like

1012
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: I don't I don't ever claim to do what Evan

1013
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 6: does on his Mondays. But you know, I like to

1014
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 6: go back and look at plays and you know, maybe

1015
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 6: look at certain players.

1016
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: And I definitely look at plays. I do that because

1017
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: I can't you can't take it all in. So like

1018
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: certain plays, I want to see what was going on

1019
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: that I missed yea, or I hear people talking about something,

1020
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: let me see it for myself.

1021
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that I do.

1022
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get some into like watching it out of

1023
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 6: order though, and like doing you know, specific things, and

1024
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 6: then the game gets jumbled in my brain. So then

1025
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: like before we do the Monday Show, I have to

1026
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 6: just like quickly watch the ten minute recap to like

1027
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 6: reput all the plays in order for me because they

1028
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 6: get all jumbled in my brain.

1029
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like I watch all offense and then all defense.

1030
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, you kind of forget you kind of miss the

1031
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 6: like flow of the game a little bit, you know

1032
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 6: if you do.

1033
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: But you you see you see the chess match. Yeah,

1034
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: like when you watch it all together, like that drive

1035
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: to drive, you can see, Okay, this is what happened

1036
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: on this drive and then they call this play this

1037
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: this next drive because they call that play before and

1038
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: so it makes it easier to see the sequencing of

1039
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 3: the plays. But you do kind of miss the forest sometimes.

1040
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you do these days. I like the defense and

1041
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 6: then I usually drakes drop backs. Those are that's mine.

1042
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: Those are my not a check it out, not.

1043
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: A bad place to me.

1044
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: Let's go to Sean and Vancouver. What's up Sean Vanouver?

1045
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 13: You know a friend you talk a lot about the

1046
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 13: registry and bring that up for people to look at

1047
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 13: for where are they're going to find a great fan bar.

1048
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 13: And I don't know if everyone realizes how amazing it is.

1049
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 13: I was in Key West this past weekend and I

1050
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 13: looked on the registry to find a place to watch

1051
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 13: a game, and I found Dog Island and it was amazing.

1052
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 13: Like I've been to lots of bars support I've never

1053
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 13: seen a sports bar where the Dolphins game is relegated

1054
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 13: to the corner, but half the other TV's and the

1055
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 13: most prominent ones are showing the Patriots game and everyone

1056
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 13: in there is a Patriots fan. We're all rooting and

1057
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 13: cheering at the same time. It's it's just a great experience.

1058
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 13: So people, you really got to like look into that

1059
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 13: registry and if you don't have one in your area, see

1060
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 13: if you can get one started, because it's a huge,

1061
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 13: huge boost, especially now that the team's great again. So

1062
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 13: that's terrific. The other question I have, and this is

1063
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 13: a bit of a weird one, like the receivers are

1064
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 13: really come through that. I love this receiver group and

1065
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 13: I'm pretty sure you know they can be great next

1066
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 13: year too. But I'd love to get Jeremiah Smith. So

1067
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 13: is it possible for the Patriots to trade for a

1068
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 13: twenty twenty seven first round pick so they can somehow

1069
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 13: maneuver and select Jeremiah Smith? And really, have you know

1070
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 13: drake to Smith as that All Star run.

1071
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: That's a real craft shoot to I also don't want

1072
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 4: to wait another year.

1073
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jeremiah Smith might be the number one

1074
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: overall pick in the twenty twenty seven draft. Yeah, so

1075
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: unless you can get to number one overallow.

1076
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: Even if he isn't, like, it's still you're taking your chances.

1077
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: Well, he's going to be top three, No doubt he'd be.

1078
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: He'd be like a top ten receiver in.

1079
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: I'm with Sean. I mean, he's tremendous, tremendous player, but like,

1080
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: can we get someone like we have to wait another year?

1081
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: I hear what he's saying.

1082
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: I just it's not even that, Like, I just it's

1083
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: totally not possible. Like unless they fall apart and they're

1084
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: picking in the top five again, which Lord help us,

1085
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: then like there's no way they're getting Jeremiah Smith.

1086
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams. Maybe you know Ryan Williams has fallen off

1087
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. I agree.

1088
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: I've watched a lot of him, and I was talking

1089
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 4: to Evan about this Alabama and I can I perk

1090
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: up now because I come to the conclusion that Ty

1091
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: Simpson is like the best quarterback in the country who

1092
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: was like this fifty year guy who's never started and

1093
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: was not really on my radar. In his first game

1094
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 4: against Florida State was uneven to put it kindly, but

1095
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 4: I've watched a fair amount of Alabama games because for

1096
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: whatever he's on, but they're already but they're always on early,

1097
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: which is great for me because, like I know, they

1098
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: put their marquee games on and you know, in primetime

1099
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: and Grandpa falls asleep, I don't make it through or

1100
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: Big neon kickoff, Yeah, the Big newon kickoffs, Like that's

1101
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: my wheelhouse, you know. And he's got a great arm,

1102
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 4: he has excellent mobilities, get good size, much better athlete.

1103
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: He's pretty good. And Ryan, just in watching a little

1104
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: bit he has he's had some drops. Yeah, he's kind

1105
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: of small, and he's gotten banged up a little bit.

1106
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: Looks like, yes, some concussion issues. I'm not saying he's

1107
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 4: not tremendously talented.

1108
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 2: Because he is, but he's been kept up the pace.

1109
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: He has not looked as good as he did last year.

1110
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 4: He started well, Jeremiah Smith has.

1111
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 3: He's starting to give off a little bit of not

1112
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: and this isn't meant to be a knock, but like

1113
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 3: he's more like Devonte Smith, I think than he is

1114
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: in Jeremiah Smith's here. Jeremiah Smith's like Julio Jones two

1115
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: point zero.

1116
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a very good uh, you know,

1117
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: both ways.

1118
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: Ryan Williams a little slighter, you know, a little bit undersized,

1119
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, that's twenty twenty seven.

1120
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: We're not like And I did see at least one

1121
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 4: Mark have Ty Simpson as a projected number one overall pick,

1122
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: which blew me away because it's just like with this

1123
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: guy's coming out of nowhere. Now it's a perfect thing

1124
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: for Simpson because he's played really well and a lot

1125
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: of the other posed top quarterbacks have not had great years.

1126
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: Drew allers out for the year, and he wasn't great

1127
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: when he was playing. Garrett Nosmeyer is in a mess

1128
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: down there with LSU and Brian Kelly getting fired and

1129
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 4: their offensive coordinator getting fired. Their offensive line is a mess. Obviously.

1130
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: Will Campbell held that all together last year because they

1131
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: can't make a pass without him getting killed. I like

1132
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: the kid from Oregon more. Yeah, and I want to

1133
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 4: see more of the Indiana kid. I haven't seen enough

1134
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 4: of him. I only see highlights.

1135
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: What do you think that you don't like Sellers?

1136
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 4: I love the skill set, But why doesn't he yet?

1137
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: I mean, if he's that and I know it's this

1138
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: is silly, but if he's that good, shouldn't they be

1139
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: a little bit better?

1140
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Now?

1141
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 4: Last week against Alabama, he was the reason why they

1142
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 4: stayed in the game. He was he made play after play.

1143
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 4: I like him a lot. I don't know if he's

1144
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: some Anthony Richardson vibes there.

1145
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1146
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know we're talking receiver next year though, Like

1147
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: that's not Jeremiah Smith obviously, like Jordan Tyson is probably

1148
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 3: the number one guy.

1149
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: But Lemon from.

1150
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: USC is getting a lot of like Puka Nikua type comps.

1151
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: And I don't know much about him.

1152
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: He's really talented too, and him and Cartonal Tate from

1153
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 3: Ohio State are going to be like in the twenties somewhere.

1154
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: So if that's if the Patriots are a playoff team

1155
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: and they're picking somewhere in the twenties. I don't know

1156
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: if receiver is really where they're going to need to go,

1157
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 3: but if they end up going receiver, then those three

1158
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: guys are all projected to go right now in the

1159
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: first round, you know, outside the top ten, but in

1160
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: the first round.

1161
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: And I bring up all those quarterbacks, Freddy, because I think, yes,

1162
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: this is a pretty deep class down and if you

1163
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: can get these quarterbacks into the first round, that obviously

1164
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: helps the Patriots.

1165
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I just conspiracy theories, the fact that it's

1166
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 2: projected to be a good quarterback classes that have any

1167
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: dotted lines to a lot of teams just not playing

1168
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: well this year.

1169
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 4: I don't think there are a lot of teams that

1170
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: are going to be in that market. So that's you know,

1171
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean there's certainly some you know,

1172
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 4: New Orleans would be an example of a red flag

1173
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: for you, you know, once Derek Carr stepped aside, you know,

1174
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: it's like, all right, we're really going to go with

1175
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: Spencer Ratler and then we're going to draft Tyler Shuck.

1176
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: And now Rattler's out of a job, Shuck's going to

1177
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 4: be in. So they're not going to win more than

1178
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: three games. Yeah, it's they're going to be in They're

1179
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 4: going to be in the market. But I mean, who

1180
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: else how many Jets, the Jets, the Saints, the Browns.

1181
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 15: Ye.

1182
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this quarterback class has cooled off a little bit

1183
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: for sure. Coming into the year, it was like, you know,

1184
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: they thought maybe this was going to look like Drake's here,

1185
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, Drake Maje and Daniel's Caleb Pennox.

1186
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: Arch Manning has kind of falling off.

1187
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Actually, he's looked a lot better. I think he's healthier.

1188
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: I think it's and he's insisted and I know that

1189
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 4: Evan and I sort of bicker about this one off air,

1190
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 4: Like he insists the Manning family insists he's got no

1191
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 4: plans to go anywhere.

1192
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: Yea, he probably won't come out.

1193
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 4: And that's that's my argument is always the Mannings generally

1194
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 4: do what they say. That's right.

1195
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: You know, the last couple of weeks he's looked better.

1196
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: He got hurt at the end of the game last week.

1197
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: That was an unbelievable comeback.

1198
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's like coaching staff, he's looked a lot

1199
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 3: physically better, Like he's throwing the ball. It's not looking

1200
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: as weird. And you know, like it hurts every time

1201
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: he throws the football, so maybe he was.

1202
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 6: Hurt in the one other draft thing. I clucked, who

1203
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 6: was he's clocking drafts? Clocked the draft thing? Well, you know,

1204
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 6: you got to have the radar up. But Jordan Reid

1205
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 6: said not not a great running.

1206
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: Back class after love from Notre Dame.

1207
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so I know sometimes you just follow these

1208
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 6: like ebbs and flows of oh, it's a great tight

1209
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: end year or not. It seems like Patriots definitely will

1210
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 6: be in the market for running back this year.

1211
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: So something to know.

1212
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: It's a great edge class, that that's the one that's

1213
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: getting touted as like the number one part of the class.

1214
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: Roubben Band for Miami is I've heard a lot of

1215
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: that top five putting pick in this draft. But it's

1216
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 3: it's a good edge class and like you could probably

1217
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: get a pretty solid prospect.

1218
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: Both just turned his car around.

1219
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: Well he's already draft, he's already here, he's here for

1220
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: the media. No kick but yeah, no, we did ten

1221
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: minutes on how they need a kick returner, and he

1222
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: was like arguing like against himself, Like I was like,

1223
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm not pushing back on the fact that they could

1224
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: use an upgrade at kick returner. And he's going on

1225
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: and on about how important it is now at the

1226
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: new kickoff rules and everything, and I'm like, I don't

1227
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 3: know who.

1228
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: That The difference between the top kick return team and

1229
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 2: the bottom is seven yards.

1230
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: It's eight yards yard, yeah, thirty five to twenty seven.

1231
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 3: They're Detroit Lions lead the league right now. They're at

1232
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: their average starting field position after a kickoffs thirty five,

1233
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: so it's eight yards over here.

1234
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: He wanted to bring back Gunna Raschewsky. He did, and

1235
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: I said, we've already got him. His name's Afton Chisholm.

1236
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: You do.

1237
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: He's I don't know if you will look gonna pick

1238
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 4: one there. I agree with you. I don't think we

1239
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 4: both think that means the same thing.

1240
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 7: I know.

1241
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: You're absolutely a half back already in your roster.

1242
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 2: Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred.

1243
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm sitting in the rail yard right now.

1244
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: Wait waiting for your dropping off or picking.

1245
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 16: Up both dropping off in the pick up out of

1246
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 16: here too, Okay, yeah, yeh. Kind of feel bad about

1247
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 16: about the Dougger trade, but I understand why. But my

1248
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 16: question is we can't get a linebacker or a safety

1249
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 16: that can cover tight ends and backs out the backfield

1250
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 16: or whatever.

1251
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 15: You know.

1252
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 17: That's that's one of my worries.

1253
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 16: And Evan, I gotta disagree with you. Bro heard the

1254
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 16: show this morning.

1255
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: I want get outside.

1256
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 16: Received sixth Street with speed to stretch the stretch the

1257
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 16: defense and I let it go at that.

1258
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 2: Don't have a good thanks are Evan? Are you anti

1259
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: high production?

1260
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: No? No, I know what he's saying.

1261
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: I think it did take me a second, but we

1262
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: were talking on the catch twenty two about the deadline

1263
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: and possibly adding and I just look at the receiver

1264
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: position where it's like, if it's.

1265
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Not like a J.

1266
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: Brown, I I just don't know why they would add

1267
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 3: like Kobe just another receiver.

1268
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 4: I'm totally with you now you can steal a stud that.

1269
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 4: I'm all for that all the time. But I don't

1270
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: know the three four so I was.

1271
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: I brought up my example. Myer is a good one.

1272
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: I brought up Chris a Lave, whose name has been

1273
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: floated around. I like chrys Olav a lot, but like

1274
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: a lot, is he that much better than Kishan Boody?

1275
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1276
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's worth the risk of disrupting

1277
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 4: that room exactly. And you know, I've seen a lot

1278
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 4: of Shaheed. Yeah, you know, he does give you, like

1279
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 4: obviously the speed element that maybe you don't have. But yeah,

1280
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: that's I don't know if it's worth it unless it's

1281
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 4: if it's like an aj Brown type. There's still a

1282
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: discussion to be had there about the room, you know,

1283
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 4: and disrupting the apple cart a little bit. But for

1284
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 4: a talent like that, you might come out on the

1285
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: other side and say it's worth the risk because this

1286
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 4: guy is special. I like Chris Olave. I think he's good,

1287
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: not great, and he also has significant concussion history.

1288
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: No, you're exactly him exactly. What I was saying is

1289
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: that room has come together so well on it.

1290
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: It's one of the underrated elements of their success offensively,

1291
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 4: is how well that room has come together. And I'm

1292
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 4: not necessarily saying how well they've played on the field.

1293
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying how well they've come together.

1294
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, everybody kind of has a role.

1295
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: Everyone sort of knows where their targets are.

1296
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1297
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: Now, Matt Collins has had a couple of big games

1298
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: and Booties keeps hitting the big plays down the field

1299
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: and Diggs is kind of this straw that stirs the drink.

1300
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: And even like Pop you know, has the forty four

1301
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: yarder in the game on Sunday, Like they're all kind

1302
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: of finding ways to contribute. And then all of a sudden,

1303
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 3: if you add like Jacobe Myers back into that mix,

1304
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, who's getting probably the

1305
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: odd man out there, and like it just upsets the

1306
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: apple car like Paul is saying.

1307
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was highlighted to McDaniel's.

1308
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 6: Thing was just Diggs talking to McDaniels, getting the marching orders,

1309
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 6: finding what message Jo I need to send.

1310
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: You can see he's really been a leader.

1311
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: Mike cin Cincinnati.

1312
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 9: Hey, fellas Mike Hey.

1313
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 18: So two things don't bother the wide receiver room.

1314
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 19: I think it's fine unless we get an A. J.

1315
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 7: Brown.

1316
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 18: I think that we could grow up with the guys

1317
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 18: we have. And I've been watching a lot of like

1318
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 18: sports talk, and it's interesting to me how they put

1319
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 18: the Kansas City Chiefs like on this pedestal. But I

1320
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 18: don't think they've beaten I don't think they've like beaten anybody,

1321
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 18: just like we haven't really beaten a lot of hard competition,

1322
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 18: so I'm just not understanding, like the.

1323
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 4: Power ranking and how they what do you think you trust?

1324
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 18: I mean the same thing I think of Bills.

1325
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 4: So they they beat one of the better teams in football.

1326
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 4: Then I mean a lot of people think Buffalo is done,

1327
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: including the guy who's sitting to my left.

1328
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: I think it's closing.

1329
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: But Detroit you think, I mean, do you think they're

1330
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: any good?

1331
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 18: That's just stay will win.

1332
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 19: I think they're great, but I also think that the

1333
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 19: Bills are good.

1334
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 18: But who else have they beaten?

1335
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 4: So what are we talking about? Who else is? I

1336
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: don't have Kansas City's whole schedule in front of me.

1337
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 4: I know that they had one of the most difficult

1338
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 4: schedules in football so far.

1339
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: Though they play the Ravens in Week one, right.

1340
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: They played Philadelphia, they played the Chargers before the Chargers

1341
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 4: lost all their players. Have they beaten though, kints? I

1342
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: just told you Detroit it's one of the best teams

1343
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 4: in football.

1344
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 19: That's it.

1345
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 4: I understand that, But well, you only have one opportunity.

1346
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: They beat Detroit, then they beat the Giants, they beat

1347
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 4: the Giants. I don't know. I don't know every team

1348
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: that they beat.

1349
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: They beat the Commanders, the the Lions, the Ravens.

1350
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: I think that was that with or without Lamar.

1351
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 18: I don't know that that's right.

1352
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 4: That was with Lamar. So there's two good wins by seventeen.

1353
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 4: And they also lost to Philadelphia because Travis Kelcey can

1354
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 4: no longer catch Mike.

1355
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: Don't don't make fun of Kansas City. That's Paul's team.

1356
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 4: No, But like this is like the thing that we

1357
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 4: touched on yesterday. You wanted to get me engaged. Patriots

1358
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: fans are back right the six and two. There's a

1359
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 4: Super Bowl champion. Now, you can't even say that they've

1360
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 4: had a soft schedule without getting someone's panties all in

1361
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: a bunch. They've literally had the easiest schedule in the

1362
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: history of football since nineteen seventy eight, since the sixteen

1363
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 4: game schedule was instituted. And you can't say it now

1364
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: you have to make fun of everybody else if you

1365
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 4: want to say Buffalo hasn't played anybody. Now, I'm on

1366
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: board because Buffalo has the same schedule the Patriots do well.

1367
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: The AFCAST schedule is a joke. I know they're playing

1368
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: the worst divisions in football.

1369
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: But Buffalo is playing the first place team in all

1370
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: those divisions.

1371
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 4: That's only two games they've played.

1372
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: Can't late Buffalo has had a tougher schedule than the

1373
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: Patriots so far.

1374
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 4: Yes, and I would only say because of Baldike, because

1375
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: of the first game of the season Baltimore. Otherwise they've

1376
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 4: played roughly like they played Carolina, they played the Jets,

1377
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: they played Miami, they.

1378
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 3: Didn't play the Troup haven't played Detroit, but.

1379
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: No who they've played there. They despite the fact that

1380
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: they finished first their schedule.

1381
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 4: But they haven't played those teams yet and there's only

1382
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: two of those games. One of them is this week

1383
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: they played Kansas City.

1384
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just uh, like the Chiefs are what the

1385
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: Patriots used to be. Like they are the proof of

1386
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: concept team, Like they have the best quarterback in the sport,

1387
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: they have maybe the best head coach in the league.

1388
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: They are in the Super Bowl or the AFC Championship

1389
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: Game every single year. So until that changes, they are

1390
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 3: going to be ahead of a team like the Patriots

1391
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 3: that are breaking out in a young quarterbacks career. Like that,

1392
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't understand. I'm with Paul in the fact that

1393
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't understand why everybody keeps calling in and saying,

1394
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: why is Kansas City in Buffalo ahead of the Patriots

1395
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: on power rankings?

1396
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: Like, don'tually in one of them?

1397
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo's behind the Patriots, but right.

1398
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: The team, these are teams that have been there routinely for.

1399
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 4: I had no problem with that Patriots fan, And if

1400
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm a Patriots fan, I beat Buffalo, so I have

1401
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: an argument there, Like I went to Buffalo and I

1402
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: won that game, So I think the Patriots right now

1403
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 4: should be ranked ahead of Buffalo in a power ranking.

1404
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 4: But I'm not even talking about power rankings. I'm talking

1405
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 4: about who they beat the Patriots. Patriots fans should never

1406
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 4: say that to any team based on what's happened right now,

1407
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: Like why would you mock any team for who they've

1408
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: beaten based on you you beating? Literally? Is it the

1409
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 4: worst five teams in Footballkay?

1410
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: But is it mocking or is it really trying to

1411
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: truly judge how good another team?

1412
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 4: It's mocking? Well, you think it's my Kansas City? Why

1413
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: is everybody giving Kansas City this left? They haven't beaten anybody,

1414
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: That's how that just started mocking.

1415
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: But it could be just someone trying to judge how

1416
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: good is Kansas City this year?

1417
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: You know who they.

1418
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: Played, but and when you had Baltimore and Detroit and

1419
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 4: you win ball, I'm like, like I do, Okay, I

1420
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 4: don't really know what we're even on you.

1421
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: And all, you know, everything supports Kansas City being a

1422
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: great team.

1423
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 4: Now are they better? I think they'll be back too.

1424
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: If you want to argue, can we wait till they

1425
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 4: actually are back before we just say they're back there

1426
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 4: one game behind despite the whole world ending for the Chiefs,

1427
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 4: they're one game behind the Patriots right one game.

1428
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: They're playing better. They're all they got.

1429
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 4: They got their players back there a big shock, and

1430
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 4: they got better. I mean, and they would have beaten

1431
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 4: Philadelphia if not for Travis Kelsey. I watched a lot

1432
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 4: of that game. They all played Philadelphia for large chunks

1433
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: of that game, even without all their players, no Worthy,

1434
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 4: no Rice in that game.

1435
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: It's still amazing to me how wide open he gets sometimes,

1436
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 3: like not even like on his own, like on the

1437
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: game on Monday Night, like he just catches a check

1438
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 3: down from Mahomes, but.

1439
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: He leaked out. He was he was yeah wucking and

1440
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: then he.

1441
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: I know, but like that doesn't usually go for a

1442
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 3: thirty five yard play.

1443
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh you got a quarterback who can extend.

1444
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 3: I know, but I like when I'm just saying, most

1445
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: of the time, when you leak out and you hite

1446
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 3: a check down to the tight end, you know, best

1447
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 3: case scenario that goes ten twelve yards, this went for

1448
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 3: like forty run anymore?

1449
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 4: Like right, it sounds like I'm killing Kelsey had a

1450
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 4: great career. He's clearly on the back nine, but he's

1451
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 4: had He's had a good amount of drops this year.

1452
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: He had another one that cost him an interception of

1453
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: the night. So this is maybe I'm getting a little

1454
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 4: defensive for this. So yesterday the NFL put out a

1455
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 4: graphic with MVP candidates in it, right, and Drake May

1456
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 4: is one of them. And you know, I did the

1457
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 4: Patriots thing, and I make sure I've retweeted that saying

1458
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 4: how much I still can't believe how.

1459
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: Fast he the eyeballs.

1460
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, how fast he's injected himself into this and rightly

1461
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 4: so and right so, but justified.

1462
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: I believe you got to put that in the I

1463
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: can't believe he's on this.

1464
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: It's Drake May.

1465
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: Feel great for the kid, It's Drake May.

1466
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 4: Josh Allen Jonathan Taylor and Patrick Mahomes. Okay, you wouldn't

1467
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: believe the amount of people said, what is Mahomes doing

1468
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 4: on this list?

1469
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: There's no one from the NFC on the list.

1470
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: No, that was the list. Oh okay, how do the

1471
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 4: kids do it? That's the list. I don't know. That's it.

1472
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 4: That's the list. That's it, like officially official, right, let's

1473
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 4: get them all out. There would be an NFC people

1474
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: who question question Mahomes's you know, in the discussion. I'm

1475
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: not saying leading candidate in the discussion for MVP based

1476
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 4: on him keeping that team afloat by himself for the

1477
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 4: first month and a half of the season. Yep, right

1478
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 4: until Rice Unworthy came back. They're not serious people. I'm

1479
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 4: going to do all though. All the kids thinks they're

1480
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: just not a serious person. They're not serious. They're not

1481
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: a serious football team.

1482
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: Now he deserves to be honest, of course he does.

1483
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, I heard people saying, like, you see those

1484
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 4: two terrible picks that he threw the other night, Well,

1485
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: obviously you didn't watch the game.

1486
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: One was off Kelsey's hands and.

1487
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 4: The other one was actually a great play by Marshawn Latimore. Yeah,

1488
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 4: but the one that Kelsey could not he could have

1489
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 4: handed it to him, right, and then not only he

1490
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 4: doesn't catch it, but it gets picked off right.

1491
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: Christians in la Hey.

1492
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 8: Christian, Hey, you got how why are you today?

1493
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 4: Okay?

1494
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: Great?

1495
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 17: So quickly I didn't get the I didn't get my

1496
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 17: chance to give my flowers yest day because I was

1497
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 17: caught in the elevator when you got Probably, but I

1498
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 17: just wanted to stay this and this sut of projected

1499
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 17: forward for the rest of the season. Yes, this Sunday

1500
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 17: that just passed. Yes, we played one of the best

1501
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 17: defenses in football. We played one of the best defensive

1502
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 17: ends in football, if not of all time, and he

1503
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 17: had a record breaking game, the best game of his career,

1504
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 17: and we still put up thirty points. So my question

1505
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 17: comes this, what is the cteelings for this offense this year?

1506
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 17: If we can do that with them, looking at the

1507
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 17: rest of the defenses that we have to play, even

1508
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 17: some of the defenses that we might meet in the playoffs,

1509
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 17: what's the ceiling for this offense if we've already, in

1510
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 17: my estimation, best one of the best defenses.

1511
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: Well, I hear what you're saying. Christian But here's the thing.

1512
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: You have to factor in what happens to this defense.

1513
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: What happens to this offense when you have to play

1514
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: another really good offense and now you know, you don't

1515
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: feel so comfortable, and you know there's a lot of

1516
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: pressure to score because Mahomes is putting up points too.

1517
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: And of course that won't happen unless they get to

1518
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But you know what I mean. So let's

1519
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: just say that the Falcons come in this week and

1520
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: they have all these guys back and they're hitting on

1521
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: all cylinders and it's a no punk game. What happens then?

1522
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: You know, I'm hoping you're right. I'm hoping that they're.

1523
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 4: What are you're looking for for an answer, we'll cut

1524
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 4: to the chase.

1525
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 17: Yeah right, I mean for me, I get the answer

1526
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 17: I'm looking for. Even in that scenario, how does that

1527
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 17: prevent us from scoring points?

1528
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1529
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 4: We don't know because we haven't really been points when

1530
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 4: you have to.

1531
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, So again my question is what is the

1532
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 17: feeling for the offense?

1533
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 4: What you're looking at this is I think this is

1534
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 4: as good as the offense can play. I think they've

1535
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: been great for the large part of the last seven games.

1536
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 4: I think the offense has been outstanding. Yeah yeah, I mean,

1537
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 4: do you think that they're capable of much more than this?

1538
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 17: I think I think that we can seriously be when

1539
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 17: we first really get someone like the Trevia and himn

1540
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 17: This has really worked into hit game. Josh is coming

1541
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 17: into his own with his talent. It takes them with

1542
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 17: a few games to look at and evaluate what his

1543
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 17: talent is. But I think we have every single piece

1544
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 17: on this team, and bear with me, in comparison to

1545
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 17: what we had with the twenty and seventeen. We have

1546
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,440
Speaker 17: a field stretcher, we have a flat genius.

1547
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 4: We have who's the field stretcher.

1548
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 17: Okay, he's gotten behind more, He's got behind more cornerbacks.

1549
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: Khan thing.

1550
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. So, so the real thing is, Okay,

1551
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: you're wondering, how how much better can this offense be?

1552
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 2: So let's just look at the Browns game. And thanks

1553
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: for the call, Christian. Let's just look at the Browns game.

1554
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: How much better would the offense be if they hadn't

1555
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: given up six sacks, if they hadn't if Miles Garrett,

1556
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: I like your first point better, Okay, but hold on

1557
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: if he hadn't gotten five sacks, My question is are

1558
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: they capable of that?

1559
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: Like, that's my point.

1560
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: Is the offensive line good enough to if they play

1561
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: this game over, to not allow that. I don't know

1562
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: the end.

1563
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 4: So maybe gott Garrett doesn't get five if they play again,

1564
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 4: but they the Browns probably get like four or five

1565
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 4: sacks again as a team. Right So, because that's what

1566
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 4: they get every game, that's what they allow every game.

1567
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: Not the Browns, the Patriot because it was the second

1568
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 4: most sacked team in football.

1569
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't a question of this is a really good

1570
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: offensive line. They just had a bad day. This is

1571
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: kind of like where the offensive line is right now.

1572
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: They're a young you know, on one side, they're very young,

1573
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: they're old. On the other side, they've got a journeyman center,

1574
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: and they're kind of you know.

1575
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: They're playing okay.

1576
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 2: But if you're looking at something that a team that

1577
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: can really get at the quarterback, that's the one weakness

1578
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: I think the Patriots have right now on offense.

1579
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 6: I mean, yes, but I'd also just say, if Drake

1580
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 6: Man continues to play at this level, which I don't

1581
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 6: think he will, I mean, you know, I think he's

1582
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 6: very good. But this is like playing even above his

1583
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 6: own head right now, like that me, is he going

1584
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 6: that offsets that? I mean, they still won the game

1585
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 6: by crazy pants, you know.

1586
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: So much better than that. Can he play what did

1587
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: you just say that? Which he's probably not going to right.

1588
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 4: So he's he's on an unbelievable historic heater and people

1589
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 4: are saying, can he get better?

1590
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1591
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 4: Can the offense get better? I don't know, like how

1592
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: much better he can play it? And he's doing right

1593
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: and that's carrying the team. And the point I was,

1594
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 4: you know, trying to get to is that as he

1595
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: kind of drops off a little bit, I think he's

1596
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: still going to be very good, but you're gonna need

1597
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 4: more from the running game.

1598
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 1: You're gonna need more from the past production.

1599
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: Right, Let's go to Mike Vrabel.

1600
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: Why was it important to extend Marcus.

1601
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 17: Jones at this time?

1602
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 20: I think it's something that you know, we've talked about

1603
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 20: and wanted to, you know, I think he embodies everything

1604
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 20: that we're we're looking for here and a and a

1605
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 20: player and a teammate on the field, in the community,

1606
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 20: you know, something that we were excited about doing and

1607
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 20: glad that he uh, wanted to get that done and

1608
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 20: and and be with us moving forward.

1609
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 15: Mike Smith said last month that Kean White was going

1610
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 15: to be a big part of what you guys do.

1611
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 7: Why did you feel it was important to move on now?

1612
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 21: Mm hmm.

1613
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,879
Speaker 20: You know, I think that, you know, just the timing

1614
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 20: of everything and where we're at as a team, it

1615
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 20: felt like it was, you know, the right thing to do,

1616
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 20: and we'll get a lot of guys in that room,

1617
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 20: and we just felt like at this particular time to

1618
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 20: make those moves that we made with him and Kyle,

1619
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 20: and you really got to make our focus here against

1620
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 20: the Falcons, a team that we don't know much about,

1621
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 20: haven't played in five years or four or five years.

1622
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 20: So wish key On the best, wish Kyle the best,

1623
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 20: appreciate their professionalism. And added some other guys here to

1624
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 20: the roster toop ken.

1625
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 8: I know he played the last preseason game, and give

1626
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 8: him a shot there.

1627
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 22: He's also someone who started camp as the kind of

1628
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 22: first team starter role.

1629
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 8: Why do you think ultimately just didn't work out with him?

1630
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 20: Just I'm not trying to, you know, figure those things out,

1631
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 20: trying to prepare the team for the Falcons and wish

1632
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 20: him the best of luck, and we have a huge

1633
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 20: challenge here again taking on his great skill team offensively

1634
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 20: with a lot of speed and home run hitting ability.

1635
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 20: The defense, it's hardly gives up a lot of yards.

1636
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,480
Speaker 20: Certainly tough throwing the football against him.

1637
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 7: A J.

1638
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 20: Terrell is having another fantastic gear Baits. If you make

1639
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 20: a mistake, it'd be a turnover a lot of young rushers,

1640
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 20: you know. So again, those are the things that I'm

1641
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 20: focused on right now.

1642
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 7: Like to that end, what kind of challenges is Bijon

1643
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 7: Robinson present? Many? Many?

1644
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 20: I think if you just if there's any crack, he's

1645
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 20: gonna test our edge, he's gonna test our wall and uh,

1646
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 20: he's gonna test everything we do about having guys swarm

1647
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 20: into the football. There have been some good defenses that

1648
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 20: he's been able to, you know, gain yards against and

1649
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 20: their three victories the average one hundred and eighty six

1650
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 20: yards a game on the ground. And it's not like

1651
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 20: they're manufacturing a lot.

1652
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 7: Not a lot of those are the quarterback. It's it's

1653
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 7: Bijeon and and Algier.

1654
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 8: I think you're seeing from.

1655
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 20: Drake maybe before the snap, after the snap that's helping

1656
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,480
Speaker 20: him have success.

1657
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 8: With the deep ball.

1658
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 20: Well, I think there's a lot of trust there. I

1659
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 20: think it starts with trust. I think just being able

1660
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 20: to put it in a position where those guys can

1661
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 20: make a play. So again, I think that there's one trust,

1662
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 20: there's its location, and then guys are doing a good

1663
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 20: job down the field.

1664
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 7: I mean, we had one that.

1665
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 20: Was you know, taken away earlier in New Orleans with

1666
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 20: a with a tough you know decision there from from

1667
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 20: the referee.

1668
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 7: But you know, that's how it goes.

1669
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 20: Even Remindres the other day, you know, Remindre comes down

1670
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 20: with the ball, it's just you.

1671
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 7: Know, a little a little wide.

1672
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 20: And so again, I think the guys that he's been

1673
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 20: throwing to have helped him. And I think he stays patient.

1674
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 20: I don't think he you know, panics and launches it

1675
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 20: or throws it seven yards out of bounds. And but

1676
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 20: I think there's been a lot of improvement from from

1677
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 20: training camp and seeing some of those passes. And I

1678
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,799
Speaker 20: don't think there was as many completed in the regular

1679
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 20: season as there were in preseason. I'm glad they were saved.

1680
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 20: I'm glad we saved them for the regular season. So

1681
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 20: I think there's a lot of things that go into it.

1682
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 20: Certainly when you do those longer developing routes, there has

1683
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 20: to be a good pocket, you know, for the quarterback

1684
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 20: to step up in. And I think that that's been

1685
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 20: the case as well.

1686
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 4: With with with things going so well played for you guys,

1687
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 4: obviously five s three wins and a lot of handy wins,

1688
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 4: uh is it almost challenging in a way to avoid

1689
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 4: complacency setting in.

1690
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 20: With I think that that's what we're always trying to

1691
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 20: to do, is not allow these what have you good times,

1692
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 20: you know, soften us up mentally and just let things

1693
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 20: slip that you know we didn't you know, things we

1694
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 20: weren't doing earlier in the season, or the way that

1695
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 20: we prepare the things that we you know, want to

1696
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 20: believe in as a as a team. And so it's

1697
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 20: always a good reminder, especially in this league where anything

1698
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,879
Speaker 20: could happen. You know, we talk about having an identity,

1699
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 20: and you know, the identity doesn't care where you play,

1700
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 20: it doesn't care what time it is, and it doesn't

1701
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 20: care what the score is.

1702
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 7: It just either either have it or you don't.

1703
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 8: I was going to say, I think you remember where

1704
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 8: the season started.

1705
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 15: You told us and the players echo that you want

1706
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 15: to be a team who is be stronger in the

1707
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 15: second half and first half the games and finished and paraphrasing,

1708
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 15: but finished strong. Certainly something we saw in the last

1709
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 15: week's game. What do you think are the commonalities that

1710
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 15: have made this team stronger in that game?

1711
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 20: And I don't think they're conditioning. I think that they're

1712
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 20: working during the week. I think they practice hard as

1713
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 20: you get into the second half of the game. I

1714
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 20: don't think that that we panic based on where the

1715
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 20: score is or who's getting the ball or you know.

1716
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 7: I think we've adjusted well.

1717
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 20: I think our players again, even little things maybe the

1718
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 20: speed of the Browns.

1719
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 7: And the defense. I think that's hard to recreate early

1720
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 7: in the game.

1721
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 20: Where there may be one run that we had early

1722
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 20: in the game didn't look too hot, and come back

1723
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 20: in it later in the game and you see, you know,

1724
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 20: lineman getting off on the backer that's running through just

1725
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 20: you know, half a step sooner and able to get

1726
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 20: the block and get the back through as opposed to.

1727
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 7: You know, maybe earlier in the game. It was you know,

1728
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 7: it was a little.

1729
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 20: Faster than what we had been able to show him

1730
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 20: in practice, so the players do a good job of

1731
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 20: adjusting to some of those things, and you know, can

1732
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 20: still be better, you know, still too sloppy in some

1733
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 20: situations and we'll need to you know, be great and

1734
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 20: you know, much better in the red zone if we're

1735
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 20: able to get down there this week.

1736
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 4: Like Michael Pennix and it was obviously out last week,

1737
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 4: and you'll have someone certainly to deal with.

1738
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna be ealth the other day. You know,

1739
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 7: may have to just do a lot between him and cousins.

1740
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 8: You have to prepare fully for both guys.

1741
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 20: Well, I mean there's more mobility and you know which

1742
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 20: hand you're gonna use the match, and you know, that

1743
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 20: was the thing I was. I thought we did a

1744
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 20: nice job getting our hand on the football that week

1745
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 20: with eight PBUs and we got a couple with the

1746
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 20: line of scrimmage and the pass rush situation and those

1747
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 20: usually end up getting intercepted. So we'll practice, you know,

1748
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 20: both ways, and you know, we'll have to make sure

1749
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 20: that one's.

1750
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 7: A little bit more mobile than the other and then

1751
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 7: be ready to go.

1752
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 20: I think that the concepts are similar, but you know

1753
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 20: there'll be some different play styles that are different between

1754
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 20: obviously Michael and Kirk.

1755
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 8: When you put your game playing together, how much you

1756
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 8: can all take a new account appreciating.

1757
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Speaker 7: Uh No, I don't think that that's something.

1758
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,879
Speaker 20: You know, we remind him of some things, and maybe

1759
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 20: whether it was last week with accrue to had called

1760
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 20: a lot of line of scrimmage penalties or the things

1761
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 20: we talked about on Wednesday, you know, starting early on

1762
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 20: about make sure that the receivers are checking, that they're

1763
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 20: looking over, they're looking at the foot, that the defensive

1764
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 20: lineman if you think you're close back up. Told the

1765
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 20: same crew that we had in Miami, and can explain

1766
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 20: to those things and say, hey, you know, whether you

1767
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 20: think you're in the neutral zone with this particular crew,

1768
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 20: you probably are. And maybe you lined up the same

1769
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 20: way for three weeks and had a different crew and

1770
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 20: somebody called it differently. So we talk about those things,

1771
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 20: but as far as game plan and I don't think

1772
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 20: that that's something that would go into it. More more

1773
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 20: reminders and about play style and things that we have

1774
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 20: to do and what their mechanics are has.

1775
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 21: Been instrumental in helping with the run game stopping minating

1776
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 21: this season.

1777
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm considering you are going against thee on this speech.

1778
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 3: Just what have you seen from him this season?

1779
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 8: And just why is that he's so well?

1780
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 20: I can you know, great teammate first and foremost, great

1781
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 20: great person. I love being around him, play square, plays

1782
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 20: with his hands, tries to control the blocker, plays with

1783
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 20: great effort, and so those things usually help you. You know,

1784
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 20: at the line of scrimmage defenses of this.

1785
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 8: Year, was there any hesitation to shake up the roster

1786
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 8: to start since things.

1787
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: Have been going so well?

1788
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 8: Would buy in and just chemistry on the team. Was

1789
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 8: there any hesitation about the idea of shaking the roster

1790
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 8: this week?

1791
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 20: Again, I'll remind you we're eight games into to what

1792
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 20: we feel like is, you know, a program that we

1793
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 20: want to build and we have to continue to find

1794
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 20: ways to improve, figure it and get it right. And

1795
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 20: that's all we're trying to do. Whether that's having success

1796
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 20: early on in the season or mid season or after

1797
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 20: the trade deadline, whatever that may be. I think we

1798
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 20: just have to continue to take that approach.

1799
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Speaker 4: How big are the opportunities now for people like del

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Speaker 4: Pace and lets upon your how much were usual without

1801
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Speaker 4: those guys?

1802
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, we we ask everybody to prepare as

1803
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 20: a starter, whether they're on the practice squad or they're

1804
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 20: on the active roster.

1805
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 7: And I know that those guys have been doing that, and.

1806
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 20: You know, we'll need everybody through this course of the season.

1807
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 20: So that's that's important at every position. Alpins pash rushes

1808
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 20: near the top of the league in exact rate time

1809
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 20: the pressure blitz, right, I'm curious who and what have

1810
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 20: you seen?

1811
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 8: It's made them so effecting this season.

1812
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 20: Well, they like to send five out of base, you know,

1813
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 20: I mean, that's something that they like to do. You know,

1814
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 20: I think that they they're penetrating. I think Amenora and

1815
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 20: YadA has always been a really good player, you know,

1816
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 20: being able to just get guys on the edge, you know,

1817
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 20: being able to get walker back and seeing where they are.

1818
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 20: And Harrison with his length inside, he's kind of like

1819
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 20: a hybrid four technique I think, you know, I mean,

1820
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 20: haven't seen him since he was in high school in Columbus.

1821
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 20: He's gone from like two hundred pounds to now two

1822
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 20: hundred and ninety, and that's just the unique matchup for

1823
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 20: an interior defensive lineman if that that kind of has

1824
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 20: that skill set who looks like an outside linebacker but

1825
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 20: probably you know rushes inside.

1826
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 7: So I think that's helped.

1827
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 20: You know, I think that they just are kind of

1828
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 20: getting it done by by by a group. They play

1829
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 20: a lot of guys, and so by playing a lot

1830
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 20: of guys, you get there, you get their best I

1831
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 20: would say energy, and you know they're not there's some

1832
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 20: games and schemes and other than that, it's usually one

1833
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 20: on one and guys are winning one on one. Uh

1834
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 20: So that'll put a big premium for us up front

1835
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 20: when they get us into those five down situations, like.

1836
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 22: They're also up there in terms of band coverage that

1837
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 22: they play. Is that just again a staple of this

1838
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 22: is what we do is how we want to player?

1839
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 8: Do you see that? As the teams they face these.

1840
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 7: Weeks week play and they do what they do.

1841
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 20: They have some wrinkles, but they also have corners Like

1842
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 20: you throw it on Torell, he's going to be really

1843
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 20: close to his guy and he's going to challenge and compete,

1844
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 20: and and the safeties obviously with with Baits and you

1845
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 20: know his ability. But you know they put the backers

1846
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 20: in coverage and then they all tackle. It's a good

1847
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 20: tackling football team. So they don't really give up a

1848
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 20: lot of big plays because of miss tackles, and they're

1849
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 20: able to, you know, turn those catches have some space

1850
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 20: maybe in the middlefield into a fifteen yard gain as

1851
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,719
Speaker 20: opposed to a twenty five or thirty yard game because

1852
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,520
Speaker 20: because of the way they tackle.

1853
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Speaker 8: The way Drake handles the demands of that position.

1854
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Speaker 20: Like wail that kill or from all accounts, I think

1855
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 20: fairly well made, pretty low key guy. But you see

1856
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 20: him in the community, you see him, you know, I

1857
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:47,520
Speaker 20: think that whatever you know, interest he has outside of football,

1858
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 20: helping the community and the kids. And he was at

1859
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 20: the Halloween party last night. It was always involved in

1860
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 20: the Special Olympics, and so again I I don't really

1861
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 20: monitor what he does a whole lot, but I know

1862
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,520
Speaker 20: that he's a great representative of this organization.

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Speaker 3: How late were you?

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1917
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oil all over it.

1919
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1920
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1921
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1922
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1923
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1924
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Speaker 4: The update to that story is the light hasn't been off.

1929
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Speaker 2: Since, you know, and I have to worry about that.

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Speaker 1: He'll be back.

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Speaker 2: Uh so Brabel press conference, nothing really big. Somebody I

1936
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: don't know who it was did kind of put Mike

1937
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 2: in a little bit of a corner. Uh when they're

1938
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Speaker 2: talking about the trade.

1939
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Speaker 7: Uh.

1940
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Speaker 2: She said, you know you mentioned that you would I

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01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: get I don't know when he said it. In the

1942
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Speaker 2: summer you said, you know, you really expect ke On

1943
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Speaker 2: White to be part of, you know, our plans this

1944
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Speaker 2: year and what happened there, and uh, you know, Rabel

1945
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Speaker 2: was a little bit well, you know, kind of sidestep

1946
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Speaker 2: the question, but it was a good a good question

1947
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Speaker 2: to ask because you know, definitely things change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's a young guy, he's only in

1949
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 4: his third year. I kind of with you, and you've

1950
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 4: you've talked a lot. I've heard you mentioned this a

1951
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,959
Speaker 4: lot about he wasn't really this or that in college

1952
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 4: like the past rusher that I think people I think

1953
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 4: everybody's sort of got blown away by those four sacks

1954
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 4: in the first two games last year and thought like,

1955
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Speaker 4: this is the fifteen sack guy, and I don't really

1956
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 4: think that's his profile. I pushed back a lot with

1957
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 4: Mike and Evan on the safeties when we talked about

1958
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 4: Pepper's and Daggar are being on the outs because of

1959
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,759
Speaker 4: the system change and the scheme changes. And I still

1960
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 4: would stand by that. I don't necessarily believe that they

1961
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 4: that they can't operate in the way that they play

1962
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 4: off in defense right now. I do, however, agree with

1963
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 4: the system change not being a good thing for Keyon White.

1964
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 4: I just think he's the classic tweener at two hundred

1965
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 4: and eighty five, or so pounds. He's too big to

1966
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 4: play the way they want the guys on the edge.

1967
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 4: I think they brought Milton Williams in so there's really

1968
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 4: no room for him. You know, you're not gonna take

1969
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 4: Milton Williams and Christian Barber off the field as an

1970
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 4: interior rusher on passing bounds. Why where does he fit?

1971
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 2: My hope was with Williams and Barmore the attention they

1972
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 2: got would help key On White on the outside.

1973
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 4: But who are you taking off the field to put

1974
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 4: him on?

1975
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, whenever he was on, and he never

1976
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: earned more spots, Like the limited time he was on,

1977
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 2: he didn't earn more playing time.

1978
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I also think I don't think

1979
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 4: he was a problem per se, But I don't think

1980
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 4: he was the easiest guy. No, you know, I think

1981
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 4: he had something earlier this year. Masslive dot Com had

1982
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 4: some quotes I think, you know, the the og Karen

1983
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 4: Griggian had him. You know, he was playing sparingly, you know,

1984
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 4: and he made a comment like they could put me

1985
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 4: at corner as long as I'm getting paid it with

1986
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 4: safety but whatever, you know, and I'll do whatever they

1987
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 4: asked me to do. They're paying me as long as

1988
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 4: they're paying me, you know, So, I mean there's context

1989
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 4: to everything, but yeah, I can understand if they were like, yeah,

1990
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 4: this guy's probably not long.

1991
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: For our program.

1992
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 7: Yep.

1993
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was the big news last night, Kyle

1994
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 2: Dugar and Keon White being traded.

1995
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 4: I do think Keon White has some ability. I just

1996
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 4: think he doesn't fit perfectly into any system and he'll

1997
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 4: always kind of be a I think, a part time

1998
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 4: player because of that. Yep.

1999
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: All right, but there's now six days left before the

2000
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 2: trading deadline, so we'll see what happens. We'll see if

2001
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 2: the Patriots are buyers. So far they've been sellers. Kyle

2002
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 2: and Pembroke a little over undergame this week. I'm assuming

2003
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 2: May passing yards two twenty five and a hay.

2004
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 4: That's about the number that we've been doing every week.

2005
01:30:58,640 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 4: I'm going to say over.

2006
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: Me too, made passing touchdowns one and a hey.

2007
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: I'll say over Okay, Robinson rushing yards seventy five and

2008
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: a hay.

2009
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna break break the mold here. I'm gonna

2010
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 4: say over. I just something worries me about him in

2011
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 4: this game.

2012
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Pitt's receiving yards fifty and.

2013
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 4: A hey, I'm gonna say under there.

2014
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: And the over under total forty five and a hay

2015
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: and a half twenty two points each under three points each.

2016
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 4: I just had a yeah, I remember the score that

2017
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 4: I've been using all week.

2018
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: Uh, and Kyle predicts the Patriots will win twenty eight

2019
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: to three.

2020
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 4: Wow, I see what he did? You see what he

2021
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 4: did there? Yeah, Falcons twenty eight to three. I don't

2022
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 4: think you did.

2023
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you did that. You know what?

2024
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 4: I got your shame on me? I got your game

2025
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:57,760
Speaker 4: on me.

2026
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: Yep, got you too bad?

2027
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 4: We wasted it. Without doucing would have he would have

2028
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 4: exploited your email and made money off of it. Somehow.

2029
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: I wonder if, without any prompting, if Deuce we'll pick

2030
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: that as a score this week.

2031
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 4: I don't believe he did.

2032
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Oh did you already know what? Score?

2033
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 4: But we did it Monday for the TV show.

2034
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay?

2035
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 4: And I try. I don't always succeed. I tried to

2036
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 4: pick the same score every time I pick it, but

2037
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 4: sometimes I forget all right. Sometimes I even changed the

2038
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 4: team I picked to witt.

2039
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: U Pennsylvania first off.

2040
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 2: Phenomenal argument last week between Evan and everyone else. It's

2041
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 2: nice now that the team is having some success. There

2042
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 2: are things you guys can argue about. But my question

2043
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: is what happened to the Evan has returned from practice song.

2044
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it has to do with timing. That's exactly

2045
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 2: what happened.

2046
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 4: It doesn't return from practice, right.

2047
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 2: But that was a great segment and song, and I'd

2048
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: love to hear how was the mood again if there

2049
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: was any grousing among the media contingent. Well, you know

2050
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: what we'll have to do. We'll have to follow up

2051
01:32:58,720 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: with Evan the next day.

2052
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just to just to shoehorn the song into

2053
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,959
Speaker 4: the segment, right. Yeah, that's the problem is is practice

2054
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 4: is now at the end of the show, yep, not

2055
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 4: during the show.

2056
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: All right, Ivans in California on the hotline. What's up, Ivan,

2057
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 2: Hey Jens, how are you good?

2058
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2059
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 9: Excellent, Paul. I think we're we're kindred spirits today. First off,

2060
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 9: with the Chiefs, to me, you've got to be a

2061
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 9: complete homer and don't know football if you can't plainly

2062
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 9: see that the Chiefs are you know, the Chiefs are

2063
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 9: the Chiefs. They are five and three and they add

2064
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 9: two of the top weapons missing most of the season,

2065
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 9: and now they're starting to cook. So they're going to

2066
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 9: be the toughest out in the playoffs, full stop. And

2067
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 9: the fact that anybody else can't see that, I think

2068
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,440
Speaker 9: is I don't know. To me, you don't have any credibility.

2069
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 9: So I'm with you on that one. But when it

2070
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 9: comes to the paths, you know, Brabel came in said,

2071
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 9: we got to we've got to learn first how to

2072
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 9: beat bad foot. Well, ye, well, as you mentioned, the

2073
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 9: weakest schedule in the history of football has allowed us

2074
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 9: to do that. And the reality is this a couple

2075
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 9: of things. We've been injury free and that's just not

2076
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 9: going to happen the whole year because it just doesn't.

2077
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 10: It's football.

2078
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 9: Secondly, the weather hasn't turned and we have to prove

2079
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 9: that we can run the football and I'm still not

2080
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 9: convinced with this offensive line that we're going to be

2081
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 9: able to do that. So I hope that maybe we

2082
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 9: can pick something up with the deadline. I'm not, you know,

2083
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 9: holding my holding my breath on that. But yeah, reality

2084
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,799
Speaker 9: is we're six and two. After the last couple of years,

2085
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 9: I'm just enjoying the ride.

2086
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, thanks a lot, man.

2087
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 4: I agree with a lot of what Ivan just just

2088
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 4: had to say, and I would say, like, I want

2089
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 4: to fixate on the Patriots part of it, because no

2090
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 4: one cares about the Kansas City part. You're right, that's

2091
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 4: what Rabel wanted to do. We want to get in

2092
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 4: position where we could take advantage of bad football. And

2093
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 4: I think that's tremendous progress that they've in such a

2094
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 4: short period of time have not found a way to

2095
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 4: get by against these bad teams. They found a way

2096
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 4: to exert dominance at times over these teams. Now it

2097
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 4: hasn't always been sixty minutes of dominance, but they've been

2098
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 4: able to beat three different teams that are, in my opinion,

2099
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the league going away, Carolina, Cleveland,

2100
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 4: and Tennessee. They've been able to take three of those

2101
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 4: teams and win going away. I think that's tremendous progress,

2102
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 4: and in such a short period of time.

2103
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 2: And a little bit more comfortably than we thought they

2104
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 2: would ever be able to.

2105
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 4: Against the Bills, oh no, they played well against that's

2106
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 4: part of this against Buffalo. But I'm just talking about

2107
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 4: you want to get in a position to take advantage

2108
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 4: of bad football. Well, to your point, against Buffalo, that

2109
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 4: was the difference in winning the game. They took advantage

2110
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 4: of Buffalo's bad football to returnovers and all those penalties

2111
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 4: that night for Buffalo did them in and the Patriots

2112
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 4: were good enough to take advantage of that year. I

2113
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 4: don't think they would have won the game despite Buffalo

2114
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 4: playing that sloppy.

2115
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: Yep, Boston Cream on the line. What's up, Boston Cream?

2116
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 19: Hey guys, I don't know if Christian in LA's blue

2117
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 19: lemon suit is a little too tight and he's sucking

2118
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 19: on the straw of a kale smoothie, there's not enough

2119
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 19: air going to his brain. Marking debate was a much

2120
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 19: better heel on this show.

2121
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 4: Wow, Christian's a good heel. Yeah, I mean you got

2122
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 4: to at least give him that. He's a good show heel.

2123
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 2: The fact that you don't like him means he's a

2124
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 2: good heel.

2125
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 4: I means she's doing his job.

2126
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 19: Dang it, we're seeing a year two quarterback take a

2127
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 19: big leap, much like another quarterback in Patriots history, Drew Bledsoe,

2128
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 19: how do the two sophomore seasons kind of looking comparison.

2129
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 19: I'm not old enough to have that memory, and what

2130
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,839
Speaker 19: does Drake May need to do to her pastor Bledsoe

2131
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 19: in Paul's mind.

2132
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 2: Okay, this good one, thanks Boston.

2133
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 4: This run that he's on has surpassed anything Drew Bledsoe

2134
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 4: ever did. I mean we're just talking about this this

2135
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 4: seven game streak. Yeah, I mean, Drew was great in

2136
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 4: ninety four, but Drew didn't complete. Drew was lucky if

2137
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 4: he completed sixty percent of his passes, let alone seventy five. Okay,

2138
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 4: Drew was lucky if he threw more touchdowns than interception.

2139
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,839
Speaker 4: I think he threw more picks and I didn't touchdown

2140
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 4: about what about he threw for fifty forty five hundred yards?

2141
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm not but Drew, what Drake May has done, it's

2142
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: a different game. But what Drake May has done has

2143
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:32,879
Speaker 4: been more impressive.

2144
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 2: What about the first half of the season after Drew

2145
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 2: left the Patriots. Remember that when he went to Buffalo

2146
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 2: and he was he had a good year as an

2147
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 2: MVP candidate, that.

2148
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 4: He had two good years in Buffalo h three and

2149
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,759
Speaker 4: oh four. He had actually a really good year in Buffalo.

2150
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 4: But he's not he didn't do this ever. Now it's

2151
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 4: a much different game. It's a much different game with

2152
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 4: the passing the way that they do it now. But

2153
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 4: you didn't have this kind of stretch of precise downfield

2154
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 4: throws that that Drake may has had no way.

2155
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember that when he left the Patriots

2156
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 2: that first half of the year, like he was leading

2157
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 2: the league in passing. I think he was having an

2158
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: incredible yew and then he tailed off.

2159
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 4: Drew had his moments, but not not consistent like that.

2160
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 4: I love Drew, you know that. But yep, I try

2161
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 4: to be I try to be objective.

2162
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,879
Speaker 2: Jacka says, uh, does Fred want to reconsider his invitation

2163
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: for Paul to get more engaged now that Paul has

2164
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 2: become engaged. It's like the scene from Clash of the

2165
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: Titans in which Zeus Orders released the Kraken.

2166
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 4: He asked me, yeah, this is what you want.

2167
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: All it took was a couple of callers. They get

2168
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 2: you going.

2169
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. So and it is like my Krypton I and

2170
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 4: I know it doesn't speak well of me.

2171
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 1: It just you just don't like fans.

2172
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 2: I just do admit it.

2173
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: You don't like fans.

2174
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 4: No, I don't like all fans. It's not it's not

2175
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 4: that I don't like fans. There are plenty that I

2176
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 4: that are like Ivan, when you just called in, it's like,

2177
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:09,599
Speaker 4: I don't like going from zero to Like last year,

2178
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 4: I just got I got just as annoyed the other way. Fred.

2179
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 4: Every game was like we stink, We're never gonna do it.

2180
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 4: We can't do that, Like it was such like this,

2181
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 4: like they were doing something personal to you.

2182
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed.

2183
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 4: Yes, that that like, and that bothered me every bit

2184
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,759
Speaker 4: as much, everything as much. And now all of a sudden,

2185
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 4: you win a game, and then you win another game,

2186
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 4: and you win three in a row and it bang. Yeah,

2187
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 4: it's like completely flips the script the other way. And

2188
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 4: now it's like, well, you know, we're back, like we've

2189
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 4: never lost the game, and everybody around the league is like,

2190
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 4: I can't believe the Patriots this script, like like why

2191
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,799
Speaker 4: can't you just like enjoy the ride? Why does everything

2192
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 4: have to be such extremes? Yep, And like I said,

2193
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 4: the last two years, the host game show like people

2194
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 4: calling in, it's like a personal affront. Every loss was

2195
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 4: a personal like attack on the on each caller.

2196
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 1: Yep.

2197
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 4: That wasn't any fun either.

2198
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Paul in the Colony has a quick question. Can you

2199
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 2: explain how the Patriots are able to tear up the

2200
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 2: final two years of Douglas's contract. Well, whatever portion of

2201
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 2: that contract wasn't guaranteed now they're not going to have.

2202
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: They did something.

2203
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 4: They did something to tear up the contract. I don't

2204
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 4: know what they did.

2205
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 2: Well, they have to pay some of it.

2206
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 4: I think they're paying some of this year. Yeah, but

2207
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 4: they agreed, the parties agreed, and Dugger had to agree

2208
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 4: to it in some way, shape or form that those

2209
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 4: last two years are gone. He's on a one year

2210
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 4: contract now, Ugger, so he's going to be a free

2211
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 4: agent at the end of the year. They must have

2212
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 4: had to pay Dugger had to do something to agree

2213
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 4: to that. I don't know exactly. I don't know all

2214
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 4: the details, but the email is right. There's that's not

2215
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 4: a common that's not a common thing, and it allowed

2216
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 4: the Patriots to get some flexibility for twenty six and

2217
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:00,200
Speaker 4: twenty seven.

2218
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: So they must have just paid him something.

2219
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: This year they're paid.

2220
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 4: I don't know if they paid him any extra, but

2221
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 4: they're paying some of his remaining contract for the rest

2222
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 4: of this year. I don't know what the numbers. I mean,

2223
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 4: I've I've read like rap report I think said they're playing,

2224
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 4: you know, a good chunk of the deal this year.

2225
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: I see.

2226
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,719
Speaker 4: I keep seeing vague terms like that, like a lot,

2227
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 4: big chunk, and until someone actually tells me what it is,

2228
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 4: I'm a little skeptical of that. Well, but I don't

2229
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 4: know why the last two years of that deal completely gone.

2230
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 7: Now.

2231
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 4: I think Kyle Dugger and his representatives had to agree

2232
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 4: to something. But you're right, maybe they gave him a

2233
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 4: little something extra to agreeable.

2234
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Well can can the team he went to give him

2235
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 2: more and then the Patriots paid for that, and that

2236
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:46,839
Speaker 2: was the agreement?

2237
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 4: What do you mean?

2238
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 7: What the like?

2239
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 2: He goes to the new team, and the new team says,

2240
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna rip up your old contract, right,

2241
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you a new one.

2242
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 4: But they didn't give him a new one.

2243
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 2: For this year, and the Patriots are going to pay that.

2244
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that. I think he's just in

2245
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:12,719
Speaker 4: this contract this year or the contract like they I don't.

2246
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:13,759
Speaker 4: I don't have the details.

2247
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: So maybe somebody is dangerous.

2248
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 2: Somebody does.

2249
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't seen anybody yet. It's it's like the

2250
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 4: Marcus Jones contract it's reportedly it's it's thirty six million

2251
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 4: in new money three years, but like, is it a

2252
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 4: three year to thirty six million dollar deal? So it's

2253
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 4: not a thirty six million dollar guarantee. Because I saw

2254
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 4: people talking about he got thirty six million guaranteed. I

2255
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 4: don't think that's the case. I haven't seen those numbers

2256
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 4: yet either.

2257
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

2258
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 4: So I think sometimes with these contracts and these different things,

2259
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 4: it's best to like wait a week or so, let

2260
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 4: the dust tuttle, and then someone will report the actual number.

2261
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: But there's no there's no way a player in his

2262
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: right mind's going to say, oh, yeah, just tear it up.

2263
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 2: You don't have to pay me anything. So there had

2264
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 2: to be something.

2265
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 4: I would agree with you that that's that's why I

2266
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 4: credit the email, or like there's something that's that's odd,

2267
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 4: that's out of sort of you.

2268
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: Know, out of the now.

2269
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 2: Like I said, any portion of that contract that wasn't

2270
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 2: guaranteed is gone, you know.

2271
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he had base salaries that were at least

2272
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 4: partially guaranteed that had gone right right somehow, Like I

2273
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 4: don't know.

2274
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: Usually they accelerate well no, no, no, like this year.

2275
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 4: He's still under contract. I don't think this year was touched.

2276
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 4: I don't think this year was reduced. Whatever he had

2277
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 4: partially guaranteed in twenty six and twenty seven has reportedly.

2278
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 4: I should say, I'm not reporting this. This is what

2279
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 4: the reports indicate have been eliminated.

2280
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 2: What if his guarantees were roster bonuses.

2281
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 4: If it was a guaranteed, I don't know, then he gets.

2282
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 2: It, not if he's no, Like, what if they were

2283
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 2: roster bonuses for the next two years, he doesn't. He

2284
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,440
Speaker 2: doesn't get those right.

2285
01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 4: Not unless he gets cut right, So he was you know.

2286
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: No, Well, okay, I don't know.

2287
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, maybe somebody can tell, like he.

2288
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 4: Would be under contract for Pittsburgh. According to what people

2289
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 4: are tweeting on the Dugger deal, those two years were gone.

2290
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 4: They are now gone. They no longer exist again, this

2291
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 4: is reported. I am not reporting any of this, right,

2292
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 4: I don't have any of this information.

2293
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 2: That would be history making the first player in history

2294
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 2: to say you don't have to pay me what you

2295
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: owe me. There had there had to be some something done,

2296
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 2: some manipulation done in order to get this this deal.

2297
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mark in Connecticut.

2298
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 7: What's up, Mark, How are we doing?

2299
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 5: Guys?

2300
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

2301
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 14: Oh, I never get a chance to get a hold

2302
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 14: of you on the post game. You guys are always

2303
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 14: too busy.

2304
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sometimes we get a little bit bogged down.

2305
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 4: That's that's on us. We could do better with.

2306
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 14: That, now, that's okay. Yeah, but no, Paul, I wanted

2307
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 14: to get your take the kid from the Giants, that

2308
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 14: edge rusher that might be available. What's his name?

2309
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's available. I think that's a

2310
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 4: huge part of the Giants defense. I think they love

2311
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 4: that three. They have Brian Burns, Kayshawn Thibodeau, and Abdul Carter,

2312
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 4: the rookie out of Penn State, and I think they

2313
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 4: love those guys. I mean again, I don't know that

2314
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 4: for sure, but Trey Hendrickson is a guy train Yeah

2315
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 4: you okay?

2316
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 7: Mark?

2317
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2318
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 2: Okay?

2319
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 4: Oh high Mark, Yeah, no, I I that's what That's

2320
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 4: what I'm looking at, Mark, is exactly what you are.

2321
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 4: I want. I want an edge rusher. I think Trey

2322
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 4: Hendrickson could be a possibility, you know, especially with that

2323
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 4: Jets win over Cincinnati, that might be enough for Cincinnati

2324
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 4: to say we are you gonna do it. But he's old, right, Paul,

2325
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 4: he's like thirty.

2326
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, the kid from the Giants, though he is young,

2327
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 14: So if you can.

2328
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 4: That's why the Giants ain't gonna trade him, Okay, I

2329
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 4: mean that would be my guess.

2330
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 7: Yep.

2331
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I know Ryan Cowden's got connections there. I

2332
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 14: know Mike's got connections there. So I figured, you know what,

2333
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 14: if there's anybody that can pull them away, it might be.

2334
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 4: I think that'd be a great move. I would take

2335
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 4: that in a heartbeat. Absolutely. I like it.

2336
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 1: I like it all right, Thanks, Mark, appreciate the call.

2337
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 4: So this is just like I just did a quick Google,

2338
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 4: and you know, this is what comes up on the

2339
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 4: like the AI overview. I don't know, Oh.

2340
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 1: God, you know I'm going to go with Ani.

2341
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,840
Speaker 4: Dougars contract has been reworked as part of his trade

2342
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh, wiping out the final two years of his

2343
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 4: original four year extension. The Patriots will pay the majority

2344
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 4: of his remaining five point five million five point four

2345
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 4: million dollar base salary for twenty five and one million

2346
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 4: in per game bonuses, making him a free agent after

2347
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 4: this season. So it doesn't indicate any new money there, no,

2348
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 4: it just says it's been.

2349
01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Reworked, reworked and up and reworked.

2350
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:04,560
Speaker 4: So I don't know what the specifics are for that.

2351
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, who cares?

2352
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm just you know, I'm not getting that to you.

2353
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying in general, who cares? You know what?

2354
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's Pittsburgh. He's Pittsburgh's problem.

2355
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all these salaried things.

2356
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 1: I don't.

2357
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 2: It's not my money. Who cares.

2358
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm glad you finally see it my way.

2359
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I like but this next email, Jeff, who calls

2360
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 2: himself the Southern Patriot, he's in Hickory, North Carolina. With

2361
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,600
Speaker 2: the move and trading key On Yesterday's at a foreshadowing

2362
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 2: and maybe trading for Hendrickson. Bengals aren't going anywhere that

2363
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: will slam the window on the Bill's fingers. So now

2364
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 2: that would cost some money, right.

2365
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever the pro rated portion of whatever his deal

2366
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 4: has left. But yeah, that they have the money.

2367
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 2: No, I know, but they'd have to spend some money

2368
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 2: to get Hendrickson.

2369
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 4: And they have to spend some draft capital too, probably. Yeah,

2370
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 4: they're not going to just give him away, right, I

2371
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 4: don't think you're going to swap a seventh round pick

2372
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 4: for him.

2373
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 2: No, they wouldn't be just get the Bengals, wouldn't be

2374
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 2: just getting rid of him, get rid of money.

2375
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 4: He's going to be out gone at the end of

2376
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,639
Speaker 4: the year anyway. Yeah, you're better off just keeping them

2377
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 4: if you're not going to get anything for him.

2378
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:14,639
Speaker 2: So let's do it.

2379
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 4: I would absolutely let's do it. I think that makes

2380
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. I meant to look up how

2381
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 4: old he was. I think he's thirty.

2382
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty. Thirty one kind of rings a bell.

2383
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's thirty. Yep, there'll be thirty one in December. Okay,

2384
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 4: So I would do that, you know, a rental, one

2385
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 4: year rental for him. No, I'm not giving up a

2386
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 4: first round pick or anything, you know, but like mid

2387
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 4: round pick, you'd give a third Yeah, maybe if I

2388
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 4: had to. I don't know, if it seems high.

2389
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 2: I think I would.

2390
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 4: I think I would, But yeah, I mean I think

2391
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 4: I think he would really bowl so the pass rush,

2392
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 4: and I think they're really thin beyond Landry and Chase On.

2393
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 4: I don't think they have much of their.

2394
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: Nikola an Oslo Norway.

2395
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 2: Yesterday, you discussed whether Booty was a Pro Bowl receiver

2396
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 2: or not. In my mind, he's really good player who

2397
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 2: does what is asked of him, but he's not a

2398
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: Pro bowler. He's one of the very best wide receivers

2399
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 2: in the AFC. Oh, he's not one of the very

2400
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:17,879
Speaker 2: best in the AFC. My question is whether the Patriots

2401
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: have any players who you think, based on what you've

2402
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 2: seen so far this season, would merit a Pro Bowl

2403
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,879
Speaker 2: selection other than Drake May. Maybe Marcus Jones as a returner.

2404
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 2: I think that the fact that the Patriots lacked big

2405
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 2: stars strengthens May's MVP candidacy.

2406
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 4: I agree with that last part wholeheartedly, and I think

2407
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 4: we made mention of that's I think was a big

2408
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 4: part of Josh Allen's candidacy last year. Didn't have a

2409
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 4: lot around him. I think Marcus Jones, yeah, as a returner, absolutely.

2410
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 4: What about Milton Williams. Milton Williams is the guy that

2411
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 4: I would bring up first. I don't know, you know,

2412
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 4: I don't know how he stacks up, you know, statistically

2413
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 4: to those other guys, you know, like Jeffrey Simmons and

2414
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:04,520
Speaker 4: uh yeah, Chris Jones. You know, those are the interior

2415
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 4: guys that you know, I don't know all those different guys.

2416
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, Milton Williams, you know, Gonzales is always I

2417
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 4: think he's I think he's considered one of the better

2418
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 4: corners in the league now, so I think he's always

2419
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,640
Speaker 4: going to be in that mix coaches and players with

2420
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 4: sartan In, uh In Stingly and those kinds of guys.

2421
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 4: But he's right, they don't have a lot of guys

2422
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 4: that stand up.

2423
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 3: From the locker room.

2424
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 17: What was the mood where the players friendly to that.

2425
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,719
Speaker 9: None of them looked like Derek Henry.

2426
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, what was it like in the locker room, Mike?

2427
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 7: What was it like?

2428
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Hello?

2429
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 4: Everyone?

2430
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 1: Hey Mike, I'm back. How you doing.

2431
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 4: That's good?

2432
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I was busy. It was busy today. Lot of media.

2433
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 2: Always been busy.

2434
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,240
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just picking up, picking up, And of

2435
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 6: course Stefon Diggs always goes on Wednesday, so we had

2436
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 6: a big media contingent crowding around his locker and me

2437
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 6: and Cassidy, the camera person I was with, were like, man,

2438
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 6: he's not gonna like this, you know.

2439
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 1: But he was a good sport about it.

2440
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 6: He weaved his way in and I thought an interesting

2441
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 6: takeaway though a couple of things were he said he

2442
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 6: gave the game ball for his first touchdown to the

2443
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,759
Speaker 6: training staff who helped him get back on the field,

2444
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 6: and so that was that was That was a nice

2445
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:17,240
Speaker 6: just a nice thing, just a nice thing. And then

2446
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 6: another funny question asked him about the Josh miked up

2447
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 6: thing that we talked about, and he said he, I

2448
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 6: didn't know he's miked up. So I think that's like

2449
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 6: a it's not like an unwritten rule in football. You

2450
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 6: got to one of these guys say hey, I'm miked up. Yeah,

2451
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 6: but no good stuff from from Diggs at all, talking

2452
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 6: about being a leader and you know, again he's a

2453
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 6: veteran coming in here. And then we talked to Marcus

2454
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 6: Jones as well, excited about the deal. Didn't realize he

2455
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 6: didn't have an agent. He's the one who said he

2456
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 6: negotiated the contract himself, which is always interesting. But excited

2457
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 6: to be here, excited to stick with New England. This

2458
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 6: is where he said he he wanted to be. And

2459
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 6: lastly we talked to Christian Zalez who happy for Marcus

2460
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,439
Speaker 6: Jones and you know, felt you know, sad to see

2461
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 6: key On White and Doug or go, but excited for

2462
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 6: them to get a new start and I guess there

2463
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 6: was a report today that Drake London's back at practice,

2464
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 6: so he's looking forward to facing him.

2465
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 1: I guess they did go against each other in college

2466
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 1: a little bit.

2467
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:09,680
Speaker 6: I think it must have been back when Gonzalez was

2468
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 6: a Colorado but said, you know, we're different players now,

2469
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 6: I was a sophomore.

2470
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: We were younger that he got me on a couple.

2471
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 1: I got him on a couple. So something maybe to

2472
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: look back at.

2473
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,639
Speaker 6: But seems like if if London's gonna play, it's probably

2474
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 6: a really good thing for the Falcon.

2475
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: So players were asked about dugg Er and White a.

2476
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 6: Little bit, you know, and it's just, yeah, what are

2477
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 6: you gonna doz and happy, you know, hope they do well. Yeah,

2478
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 6: and then you know, and then dig saying, you know,

2479
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 6: we got we got plenty on our plate to deal with,

2480
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 6: but you know, wishing those guys the best. So uh yeah,

2481
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 6: they know, back in shells and looks like it's getting

2482
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:42,560
Speaker 6: a little cold out there. You're seeing guys start to

2483
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 6: bundle up. You can just you know, you just feel

2484
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 6: the season kind of going by. And I don't know

2485
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 6: if it's the fact that they're winning, but I think

2486
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 6: just everybody you seem to talk to was like, my god,

2487
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 6: it's already week nine, Like it just seems like it's

2488
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 6: really going by fast, having fun. Yeah, I guess so

2489
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 6: you guys know more about that than me. But it

2490
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 6: feels like usually you know, the four win seasons, this

2491
01:52:58,600 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 6: is about when it starts to grind to a hall

2492
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 6: and they're like, oh my god, your career is sad.

2493
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 6: We started on twenty nineteen or like a little taste

2494
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 6: of Brady, you know, the playoffs, and before I know,

2495
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 6: I want to get back to those thirteen wins seasons

2496
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 6: for that's that's what we got to get.

2497
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: My get one, that's what I want. That's what I want.

2498
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: So it's good, but good vibes and I just packed,

2499
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, just continues to anyone, anyone notable.

2500
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 4: There is a new guy who I think is somewhat notable.

2501
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 4: Only they signed a guy to the practice squad. Running

2502
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 4: back to Ernest Johnson. There's a guy who's had some.

2503
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 10: Players.

2504
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 7: Oh so.

2505
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: Uh no, there are some familiar faces.

2506
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 6: It's hard to tell where they're from though, you unless

2507
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 6: you scope out there their badges or their you know,

2508
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 6: their day passes, but certainly is increased and you know,

2509
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 6: it's just it's a lot more of the vibe of

2510
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen when I got here, when it was like

2511
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 6: oh Brady, oh Edelman, they go to Oh, let's go

2512
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 6: to High Tower, you know, and you're hopping kind of

2513
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 6: from scrum to scrum around star Player and you know,

2514
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 6: now that's that's kind of coming back. You go to

2515
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 6: Stefan Diggs, you go to Marcus Jones, you go to

2516
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez. You're starting to feel that the talent and

2517
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 6: you know, just the desire for people to hear from

2518
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 6: these guys.

2519
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: And ask him questions. So it's so it's.

2520
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 2: Good, all right. And uh, our Weekly Eye on Evan's

2521
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 2: segment brought to us by Sonny's car Wash.

2522
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:12,719
Speaker 1: Where was Evan today?

2523
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 6: He's in there. I just I kept catching eyes and good. Now,

2524
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:16,879
Speaker 6: granted I got to say.

2525
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: He's lost in the scrum.

2526
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 6: In my defense, I was buried in the dig scrum

2527
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 6: and it took him a while to get out there,

2528
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 6: so I wasn't able to clock Evan like I usually

2529
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 6: am where I you know, say, oh, he's sidling up

2530
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 6: to some phone or something.

2531
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 1: Track him.

2532
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 6: But uh, but no, he was, you know, he was

2533
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 6: in there floating around. You know, he has the siddles

2534
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 6: up and has his little conversations and you know, get

2535
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 6: some insight onto the finer points of the exits and

2536
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 6: nose he looked prefaces a lot of one of that.

2537
01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 6: You know, this might be a dumb question, you know,

2538
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 6: but but the guys that I've seen at least are

2539
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 6: always you know, I think I'm a.

2540
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 2: Little worried because, like for the second day in a row,

2541
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 2: I think he left the show a little bit. Uh

2542
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was good.

2543
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 4: I thought he was good today today.

2544
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he likes arguing.

2545
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 6: No, I think he I thought he was good to

2546
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 6: day and we've got a lot of exits and no

2547
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 6: talk at the expensive participating No.

2548
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 4: I shared off the air with Fred that Evan has

2549
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 4: made a goal of not arguing with Fred, and.

2550
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 1: We certainly realized that Fred's like a master manipulator.

2551
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 4: And it lasted two minutes and thirty seconds into the show.

2552
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: We got an argument with The.

2553
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 2: Way I take it from Evan is like it's not

2554
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 2: even worth because he knows.

2555
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: Nothing that's not exactly right exactly.

2556
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 2: I can't have a argument with him or getting fired.

2557
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 1: It's so funny, you bring that up though, because as

2558
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: soon as the PFF and Fred was kind of like,

2559
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 1: what's it the PF, Like he kind of did one

2560
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: of those and I could just feel Evan all that,

2561
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: like what what what? What's wrong with the PFF? Like

2562
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: what what? What?

2563
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 7: What?

2564
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 1: Fred?

2565
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 4: We could do shows. I could go on rants for shows,

2566
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 4: but I'm not going to do that.

2567
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we already had ours.

2568
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 1: So we're done with.

2569
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 4: With the whole locker room breakdown. Because I find an

2570
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 4: interesting that's that's three running backs signed to the practice squad.

2571
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah one and got moved to practice squad.

2572
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 4: I ar yesterday?

2573
01:55:58,440 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't.

2574
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, one of those still too. And Jared Johnson

2575
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 4: is the kind of running back that I sort of

2576
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 4: he wasn't one of you know, we were talking about

2577
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 4: Jerome Ford. Just an NFL player, not a star, just

2578
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 4: a guy who's been rounds a little. Yes, the Browns

2579
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 4: and he was on the Titans. I think he's been

2580
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 4: on the Cardinals. So he's around. He's not going to

2581
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 4: move the needle. But that's a veteran running back that

2582
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 4: gives you a little bit of a layer of depth.

2583
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 4: I think he's a guy who's carried the ball in

2584
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 4: the NFL before and can you know, be on the

2585
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 4: practice squad and if it works out, it works out,

2586
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 4: if he's got nothing left or whatever, you know, you

2587
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 4: move on. Maybe he's gone in a day or two.

2588
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 4: But I think there's another guy, so maybe edge Rusher Mike,

2589
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 4: all right, a couple of quick calls, we'll wrap up

2590
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 4: Edge Rusher.

2591
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 2: Jerry's in LA. What's up, Jerry?

2592
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: Hello, Jerry?

2593
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of hey, uh.

2594
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 10: What is what is this great?

2595
01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 19: What is the treat of the thing this team needs?

2596
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 12: Uh, you know, to get up a better and then

2597
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 12: with the trees that you guys would like to see,

2598
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 12: no matter the draft capital that we have to give up.

2599
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 2: We just talked about it. Trey Hendrickson.

2600
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm that's my guy.

2601
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm willing to give a third for him and then

2602
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,960
Speaker 2: pay him, you know, the rest of his money. So

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 2: that's my guy. Yeah, I mean, you do that, and

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01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 2: somebody mentioned you do that and the window is firmly

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 2: slam shut off those fingers. Yeah, okay, okay, all right,

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01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 2: thanks Jerry.

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01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 6: I mean i'd throw shoot Thibodeaux, you know with with

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01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 6: why isn't you just had a call from Marking Connecticut,

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01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 6: who said the same thing.

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01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 4: Why are the Giants trading him?

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01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 1: Because they have three at rushers. They paid three guys,

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01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: really good players.

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01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 4: They didn't pay one of them is a rookie, right

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01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 4: and paid him.

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01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: But I don't know that's why.

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01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 4: Actually two of them are really good contract it sounds

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01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 4: like ideal to me, Like I have three studs at

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01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 4: this position. This is the centerpiece of my defense. But

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01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 4: you know, everybody, everybody else is with you.

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01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 2: Thomas is in La. Hey, Thomas, Hey, how are you

2621
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:06,480
Speaker 2: guys doing okay?

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01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 19: Hey, So I have a prediction.

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01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 12: I believe that the Patriots are going to trade for

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01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 12: Caveon Thibodeaux.

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01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you who wrote this?

2626
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 2: Who started this?

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01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 7: Someone?

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01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 4: Someone clearly started it. But if the Giants.

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01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 11: Doesn't agree, huh.

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01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 12: But I just have a feeling, and it would be

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01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 12: great because I'm from LA I'm gonna make my trip

2632
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 12: out to Boston for the Giants game. I just I

2633
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 12: have a feeling that he'll be on the Patriots when

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01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 12: I'm at that game.

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01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 4: I think that would be great. Question, I think that

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01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,920
Speaker 4: would be great. That's I think it'll be perfect for

2637
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 4: what they need. They need some juice on Thanks Thomas.

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01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 4: I like Thodeau.

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01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's a little bit of a fantasy.

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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:48,800
Speaker 6: I would say, of like, wow, that would be a

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01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 6: real for a young player.

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01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 2: On our schedule. Does that decrease the odds of that happening?

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01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 4: No?

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01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 1: No, no?

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01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 6: And I mean I think if I was the Giants, though,

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01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 6: and I'm going to give up that piece, I want

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01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 6: something significant.

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01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 4: So what do you what do you think you would

2649
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 4: have to give up for him?

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01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 2: M I mean maybe a second maybe.

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01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 4: Second or third. Yeah, I would do it me too.

2652
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if it would cost you that much.

2653
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 4: I think it kind of always costs a little less

2654
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 4: than you think. Yeah, but I would do it. My

2655
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 4: only thing was just the Giants seem like they have

2656
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 4: a little something going.

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01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 1: No, that's fair.

2658
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 4: Why wouldn't he be part of their future because he's young? Yep,

2659
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 4: still on his rookie contract.

2660
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I you know, I just say to the connection, Shoot,

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01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna blank on the defensive coordinator for the Giants

2662
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,879
Speaker 6: last name name. But he you know, he was Rabel's

2663
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,000
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator too, So you think maybe there's some crossover

2664
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 6: there in terms of philosophy and scheme and stuff. But

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01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 6: I think he's kind of the pipe dream. I mean,

2666
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 6: Trey Hendrickson is an older player. That's usually the kind.

2667
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: Of guys that get traded, you know, guy who I

2668
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 1: don't know.

2669
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 6: Tibota is probably what like twenty six, I mean, he's

2670
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 6: still like young in his prime.

2671
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Might be a bit of a pipe dream, but that's

2672
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: why we that's why we like to spect. All right,

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01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:52,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna be it.

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01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 2: Bring him this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back

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01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 2: tomorrow on Thursday with our final show of the week,

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Speaker 2: our picks, and until then, thanks for watching today.

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Speaker 3: Hey this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:11,760
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02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:14,640
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02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:17,400
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2681
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:20,000
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2682
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:21,960
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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot.