1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeart Radio app. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Today's the second hour of us celebrating Mark Ridley Thomas 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: going to federal President. We hope life doesn't get any 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: sweeter than that he was convicted in his corruption case. 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Really a special thanks to an FBI special agent by 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: the name of Brian Atkins. He's a well regarded public 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: corruption specialist who did the big investigations put the case 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: together against Ridley Thomas. Can we get him on the air? 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's true, Radley. I don't know if 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: they can talk though, since he's an FBI special agent. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: But wow, that's true. You're right, okay, Bryan Atkins. And 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: maybe because his case is being appealed or it will 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: that happens. I've waited twenty four years for this moment. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: The first time had any interaction with Mark Ridley Thomas, 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I just instinctively knew this guy's a crook, this guy's 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: a ruck. Oh and remember remember that when he was 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: in that scandal, when he was spending lots of taxpayer 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: money on renovating his office. Yeah, when he first became 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: a supervisor, supervisor. Yeah, I think that was two thousand 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: and eight. He got elected to the board of supervisors 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: and immediately began spending money from his chest of the 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: taxpayer money on renovating his offices. And he got caught 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: and it was a big scandal, and he was all 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: pompous and it was just this big loud blow hard 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: of all. You know, he's always being persecuted. Well, we'll 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: do another victory dance next hour. We'll talk to an 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: attorney for more details on the case and what we 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: can learn further. Right now, though, we turn our attention 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: to people who act up on your flight. I've never 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: been on a flight where things got really ugly. I've 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: had a few small situations, but not one where you know, 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: we had to take an emergency landing or something like that. Usually, yeah, 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: no fly lists or about you know, terrorists. It would 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: be the good old days, right, dud. We're worried about 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: nine eleven. Yeah, But now in more of recent years, 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: particularly during the pandemic, there been some really crazy people 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: on the planes, trying to open the emergency exit doors, drunk, 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: some guys dropping their pants, molesting people, you know, the 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: whole list, and sometimes flight attendants get attacked anyway. There 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: is a group of lawmakers in Washington, DC and apparently 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: it is Republicans and Democrats working on a no fly list. 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Let's get the details from Justin Finch, ABC News for 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: K five justin welcome, how are you pretty good? And 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: keyword here is five partisan at their support from both 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: parties from both chambers of Congress who are behind this 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: protection from abusive passage or back I was introduced first 48 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: last year, didn't get very far that time, but there 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: thinking of this time it might gain more support. It 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: would create a federal no fly lit for passengers who 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: are fined or convicted for assaulty crew, divers, or other 52 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: passengers on board and aircraft. It would also empowered TSA 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: to create and also manage a program that would borrow 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: those passengers from flying again based on the length of 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: the band would be based on the length of the 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: severity of their offense, So the worst or the offense, 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: the worst their band would be. The short works there. 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: So the FAA has been counting from twenty twenty one 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: on uptick in the in air incident County nearly six 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: thousand unruly reports in twenty twenty one, the FAA that 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: same year looking into more than eleven hundred period incidents. 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: You might be asking, well, what's happening currently. Well, the FAA, say, 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: and the Department of Justice do have a program to 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: deter and publish these passengers for these incidents. But this 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: bill gives more civil and criminal leverage to those agencys 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: to in effect go harder at these offenses. Yeah, as 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: I understand, justin I think the airlines kind of have 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: their own separate no fly list, but they don't really 69 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: share them. Is that true? That's right. So this would 70 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: make it fedible right across the boards. You could perhaps 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: have a case on Delta and be able to fly 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: American airlines, so it does shift from airline to airlines. 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: This would make it federal. All all of these airlines 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: would have access to these bands and finds and fees, 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: and they will be able to say no, you can't 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: fly by empowering TSA who get all the information anyway apply. 77 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: They would also be able to flag you as a 78 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: passenger and prohibit your access to a flight. Has there 79 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: been any talk about getting some kind of officer on 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: board to take care of a violent or unruly passenger, 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: because so often these guys have to be taken down 82 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: by the other passengers, And I don't understand it can't 83 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: cost that much money to put a guy on a 84 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: flight in one seat so that he could restore order. 85 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Because when you have thousands of to these incidents, it's 86 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: clear you need some kind of authority there with a 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: loaded weapon, and also very clear too that mccremer brooks 88 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: want to see that as well. We heard from flight 89 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: attendants who were talking about just a really harrowing stories 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: about being attacked and spat on by passengers on flight one. 91 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Her so badly she was hospitalized for a ten days 92 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: after the incident. A Frontier Airlines flight intendent said one 93 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: time she tried to break up a really bad fight 94 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: between two passengers and the one passenger who actually instigated 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: to the fight. They called the authorities on but once 96 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: the play landed, he was able to get by law enforcement. 97 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: So this bill was plug holes like that, and perhaps 98 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: next time, if there ever is one, have authorities right 99 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: there at the gig to take care of. Yeah, they 100 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: gotta put somebody on the plane because you got a 101 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: flight attendant, she's five foot two and one hundred pounds, 102 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: and you've got guys who are two hundred and fifty 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: pounds wailing away. I mean, you're asking for one of 104 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: these women to get killed. I just don't get it. 105 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: Plus they feed them alcohol of the whole flight. Yeah, 106 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: I wondered about that. The alcohol issue here. Well, someone 107 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: asked me today, you know, is there any provision in 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: this legislation got alcohol. I told them none that I 109 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: could find. I'm sure that the airlines and the airports 110 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: want to see if this what works. First before they 111 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: had conversation about suspending alcohol sales at airports, might recall 112 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: through the pandemics stop left, actually stop that right, And 113 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: that did go over well about because if some people 114 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: needed to be sedated, they think it's something that makes 115 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: them feel a little calmer when they're afraid of flying. No, 116 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: it's just they want to get drunk because they're away 117 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: from home. In the airlines probably have a good markup 118 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: on the alcohol, probably makes some good money markup on everything. 119 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: Justin would this be retroactive, I mean, if this were 120 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: to start, say next year, would it include offenses from 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the past, or to be starting from ground zero? But 122 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: every account it would start from ground zero. There is 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: already a foundation for this right, you are able to 124 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: be not only penalized and fine, but you know, prosecutor 125 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: or actually on places. The real list FID here is 126 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: for you to be flagged by this system. So as 127 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: this gets kicked around Capitol Hill, there is perhaps a 128 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: chance that eventually, as they go back and forth, they 129 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: may ask for provisions like that, or perhaps they extended 130 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: it beyond the aircraft into the airport. We see the 131 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: videos of people freaking out that gate, perhaps because it 132 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: encompass that too. So there's still lots of room to 133 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: find too in this bill before it's finally pushed up 134 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: for a vote. Now, what are the objections to You 135 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: made a good big point of base saying it's finally 136 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: bipartisan here, I mean, are there objections to something like this? Well, 137 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the last Congress it didn't really get enough support to 138 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: move forward for a vote. You know, different congress, different 139 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: leaders shift. We had Democrat holding book chambers this Congress 140 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: for publicers have the House, Democrats have the Senate, and 141 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: there has not been a lot of comedy ground for 142 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: the past several months, so this could be one of 143 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: those things that they could perhaps knock out together bring 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: back home to their difference and say we have been working. 145 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: We have done something in Congress this session. All right, Justin, 146 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for talking to us. We appreciate it. 147 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Justin Finch, ABC News for KFI. The bill 148 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: is called the Protection from Abusive Passengers Act, and the 149 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: TSA could create a list of passengers who got convicted. 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: Now you have to be condicted for assaulting crew members 151 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: or people on board the plane. Why don't they just 152 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: throw these guys out of the plane. You do that 153 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: literally up in the air. Yes, you do that once. 154 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: That'll take care. They have a special shoot right and 155 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: actually yeah, there you go. Oh they become a splat. 156 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: There's your cartoon. That's right. No parachute. But you you 157 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: market very clearly, like a little on the floor of 158 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: the plane, that this is the place you go down 159 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: if you act unruly. Yeah, you do that one time. 160 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: Make a lot of headlines. Everyone's gonna golm down. Oh. 161 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: I think people will really find a way to stay 162 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: in line. All right, We got more coming up. John 163 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: and Ken kf I am six forty. We're live everywhere 164 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken on 165 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: demand from kf I am sixty. Yeah, we have something 166 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: called the Moist Line which pops up Tomorrow's during the 167 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour. There is still time to leave a 168 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: message for the entire audience to hear. It's your very 169 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: exciting chance to express yourself in like twenty seconds. On 170 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: the John and Ken Show, a lot of the calls 171 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: are edited. You can leave a messages in the iHeartRadio app. 172 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: That's easy to do. Look for the microphone icon, leave 173 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: a message there. Recall this toll free number one eight 174 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven six 175 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: six four seven eight eight six. It's probably an easy 176 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: guess that tomorrow during the three clock hour, we're gonna 177 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: throw somebody into the dumpster, isn't it. Yeah, he'll get 178 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: he'll get stuck though, Well, we're gonna have to get 179 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: the extra large dumpster. No, it's not going to be 180 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: the dumpster. Oh, Satan's like a fire, of course, My god, 181 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: you know how long he'll burn. There's John's hints we 182 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: might get shut down. All right, that's an artian case. 183 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: We got a lot to come. We're gonna talk. Well, 184 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: right now, we're gonna play this for you. Honestly, I 185 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: chose this audio because I think what it does it 186 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: simplifies the crazy sides over the gun control argument to 187 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: its simplest form. Yeah, as you know, after the Nashville, 188 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: Tennessee shooting, once again there are people calling for something, 189 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: just do something right now. Didn't didn't Biden when he 190 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: came to Monterate Park issues some executive order on guns. 191 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Did he not? He did it, It's all I'm saying. 192 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: It didn't stop the next shooting right now? None of 193 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: this does. In fact, I read today in the New 194 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: York Times, Finally everybody came clean. The Times actually published 195 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: this saying that Joe Biden said there's nothing more he 196 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: can do about guns, he's got no powers left. And 197 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans said, we are not going to pass one 198 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: more law against dun ownership. Both of them said it unequivocally. 199 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: We're not We've done all we're gonna do, say the Republicans, 200 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: and Biden said, there's nothing more I can do. So 201 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: it's a dead issue. Just people. It's now people publicly 202 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: bloviating so they can raise money for themselves or their organization. 203 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: That's all by by selling a hot button issue. Well, 204 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: what we're gonna play for you is a Democratic congressman 205 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: by the name of Jamal Bowman from New York. He 206 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: was at one point of school principal, so you can 207 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: probably guess which side of the gun control story he's on. 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: And apparently he's in just off the house floor, like 209 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: in a hallway, and he just starts yelling about, you know, 210 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: we got to do something. He's angry with the Republicans. 211 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Most of them ignore him, but eventually a Republican Congressman 212 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: from West Virginia by the name of Thomas Massey, West 213 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Virginia engages. And here's how it went. Children at all 214 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: power Russia forced them to respond to the question, what 215 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: the hell will him do? Anything? To say the American's children, 216 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: and let them explaining all the way up to Alexion 217 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Day twenty twenty four. Let them splaining all the way 218 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: up to the Lesion day. We're twenty four four. They're 219 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: freaking powers, they're colors there. You know, there's never been 220 00:12:51,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: a school that allows teachers to carry terry. More you 221 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: got of stings and more day, look at the damn 222 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: you're not looking at any damn. Non't any wonderful and 223 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: unlocking looking to day I'm more the more guys states 224 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: that open cottery walls. I'm boarding that stuy. This guy 225 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: shouting pucker stickers out walls. Dare you listening to what 226 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying? That caused that children of dying? Your old children, 227 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: because there's a loosening that harmentitious. Never learn working in school? 228 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: However you are working in a school. I'm never working 229 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: a school. I'm ever working in the school. Listen, guess 230 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: anna ask him again? We are working. You are not 231 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: answer my question. Don't start talking, Okay, I'll bring it 232 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: down to not all right. I'm they worked in the school. 233 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I got a bill to re deal. I ever work 234 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: in the school or tenty years? I wasn't enous. I 235 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: was saying before. You weren't in it to bring me 236 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: every I worn't going to school for twenty year? How 237 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: long here? Twenty years? I was a scary counselor, I 238 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: was a middle school principal. I cafe is every day 239 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I missed that? How was he in the school twenty years? Twenty? 240 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: You sure to protect scrap somebody somebody gets the cloud car. 241 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: Every school that's allowed it has never had a shooting, 242 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: not even an act. He stays on point massy does. Yeah, 243 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: this guy's argument is give guns to the teachers, this 244 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: will go away, or also have more security. It was 245 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: interesting about this argument. It kind of flips the other 246 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: the crime battles and maybe the homelessness generally when it 247 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: comes to crime. Right, Yeah, we're gonna be talking about 248 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: that after the news at two thirty h LA now 249 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: has a real problem again with shoplifting. The woke response 250 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: progressive the people that don't like prison is we've gotta 251 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: look at the sciences of this. We're gonna think are 252 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: out you know why people commit crimes and allocate the 253 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: resources to that, not to just throwing people in prison. 254 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Where's the other side of responses? Just lock them up, 255 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: as John said, you know, keep them in prison for decades. 256 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: We don't have to worry if they're not free about 257 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: them robbing us or killing us. Right, all right, now, 258 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: see how this flips, right? Is it weird? This guy, 259 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: this congressman from the New York just wants to take 260 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: away all the guns, no guns because he says more guns, 261 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: more death right. But the other guy, the Republican guy, 262 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: and I'm reading some other ones here, well, we need 263 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: to do more to address mental illness. We need to 264 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: have all schools security. Do you see how the arguments 265 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: exactly right. The Republicans now are acting like we wanted 266 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: to go with the more nuanced and the underlying causes 267 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: the school shootings where take away the guns. That's at 268 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: too many guns. And I'm thinking, you know, I don't 269 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: know what's the last estimate, John, three hundred four hundred 270 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: million guns. Yeah, ain't gonna happen. It's not gonna It's impossible. 271 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: And people like to say, well, they did something like 272 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: this in Australia, ain't the same place. We've got the 273 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: Second Amendment that's not getting repealed. All right, you got 274 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: four hundred million guns, you can't confiscate them. You've got 275 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: a president who says there's nothing I can do. You 276 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: go out Republicans who say there's nothing we're going to 277 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: do that issue. So if you're worried about your kid. 278 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: One one legislator said, I'm just homeschooling my kids. That's 279 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: how I'm dealing with it. I school to get shot. 280 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: That's right, Well, but you got a I don't know what. 281 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: There's nothing else to say on this. No, in a fact, 282 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: no compromise to be had. And you know what else 283 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: is weirdness type part is I think a lot of 284 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Americans have accepted that there's going to be a school shooting. 285 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: Obviously obviously, there's just you know, we now go through 286 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: this weird religious ritual of saying, oh, how horrible this is, 287 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers, We've got to do something. It is 288 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: like strange incantations that people make in church. Right, oh, yes, 289 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers, because you can't say publicly, yeah, yeah, 290 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: that's just the way of life here, move on. Yeah, 291 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: but that's yeah, that's right. People are gonna die in 292 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: mass shootings because that's America. No one's want us. No 293 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: one wants to say that publicly. You want to clear 294 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: out a room, say something like that, say something like, hey, 295 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, this is just the price of doing It's 296 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: like a car accident, right, want to take awaybody's cars. 297 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: Nobody dies in a car accident, you know, because impossible. 298 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: On top of that, and this is another weird progressive quirk. Uh, 299 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: they want to ban guns and they want tough gun 300 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: control laws. But for those who violate the laws, guys 301 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: like Gascone don't want to prosecute them, don't want to 302 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: put them in jail for right, Well, what's the point 303 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: of pushing for gun crimes if you don't prosecute when 304 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: they commit the gun crimes. And that's where they go 305 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: back to the criminal and the underlying causes. We need 306 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: to understand why they did this, why they used the gun, 307 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: and it's horrible to give extra prison time because they've 308 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: had a hard life and are terribly racist capitalist system. 309 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: So we've got a lah blah blah. I have a headache. 310 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: You should. I have bad. I just too bad. You 311 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: were a good mood over Mark had Lee Thomas, and 312 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: I know, well I never got any champagne. I wanted 313 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: to celebrate. Champagne gives me headaches. Actually yeah, but it's 314 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: the one alcohol it does. No, no, no, why Maybe 315 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: it's the bubbles. I actually don't like a lot of 316 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: drinks with bubbles, so it's really sugary too, I think sugary. 317 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh yes, it is very sweet lead to worse hangovers, dever, 318 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Mark like champagne, right, well, you know my favorite is 319 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: the moscato. I don't love champagne, but I love moscato. 320 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Did you probably really loaded on muscatto like Jess? No 321 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: ass out, no, no, no, that's not my style. He 322 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: goes right for it. Never get really loaded. Idella is 323 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: your worst story of being dead drunk. I was naked 324 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: in the streets and there was an earthquake and I 325 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: drank more. All right, we got more coming up, John 326 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: and Ken k IF. I am six forty. We're live 327 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: everywhere the I Heart Radio app. You're listening to John 328 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: and Kim and on demand from KF I am sixty. 329 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: I was naked in the streets another one. Oh, is 330 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: that from the archives? So she just said that again. 331 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: I was just seconds ago, she said it. No, I know, 332 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: but not live right now? Correct? He played something off 333 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: of two twenty eight right now. She shouts that out 334 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: in the hallways from time to time. Oh sure, yeah, 335 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: Well I told you I have nightmarrors every every few 336 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: months that I find myself naked roaming the streets, and 337 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand what that means. It's very street means 338 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: you finally lost it, which we know you will someday 339 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: and you will be like unrealized fantasy man skid road 340 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: walking around New That Amanda Bndes, Right, that's gonna be you. 341 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: I was naked in the streets. Oh, I just just 342 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: passed up thing humorous. Yeah, I've been reading the Mark 343 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Redley Thomas conviction story over and over in the Los 344 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: Angeles Times, and I look for related stories and I 345 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: take we take you back now to September twenty second, 346 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty headline endorsement put put Mark Ridley Thomas back 347 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: on the LA City Council The Times. Yeah, they know 348 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: how to pick him to fill the open seat. We 349 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: recommend a familiar face, Mark Ridley Thomas. As we said 350 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: when we endorsed him in the primary, voters would have 351 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: a hard time finding another candidate with Ridley Thomas's experience 352 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: and knowledge or his long list of accomplishments. His experience 353 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: is even more on point now. He spent his career 354 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: focused on civil rights, police accountability, and criminal justice reform. 355 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: His perspective will be especially helpful at the city council 356 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: grapples with Hotter reimagine policing at LA. We're apparently now 357 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: he's officially off the city council because he's been convicted. Yeah, yeah, 358 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: so that means they're going to have to work on 359 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: his replacement. Luc Shapiro will join us after the news 360 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: at three o'clock a criminal law specialist to talk in 361 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: more detail about the exciting news this afternoon that Margaret 362 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Lee Thomas has been convicted in his corruption trial and 363 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: does face significant prison time again or applause goes out 364 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: to the fence, because that's who prosecuted this case, and 365 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: as we mentioned a few weeks ago, they went like 366 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: ninety percent of them either a conviction or a plea deal. 367 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: So we had a feeling it was not good news 368 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: for MRT and he's going down. Ken, I have some 369 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: breaking news. This is just coming in right now. ABC 370 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: News and the New York Times reporting that a grand 371 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: jury has voted this afternoon to indict former President Trump. Wow. Yep, 372 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: So the indictment is The indictment is reportedly under steal 373 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: by the Manhattan DA's office and it will likely be 374 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: announced in the coming days. Wow. They So they're not 375 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: saying that they're going to arrest him anytime soon, doesn't 376 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: say does not say that. Because Fox took a survey, 377 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: he has surged to a thirty point lead over to 378 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: Santis among Republican primary voters nationwide. This is working out 379 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: nice for him in terms of at least getting the nomination. 380 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: This indictment stuff. Yeah, No, they're going to rally around him. 381 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Fifty four to twenty four Trump, according to the Fox Pole, 382 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: he could run even if he's indicted. He can run 383 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: even if he's convicted. He could run even if he's 384 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: in prison, and he could serve even if he's in prison. 385 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: They would have to go paint. They would have to 386 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: go through an impeachment process to remove him. Oh, I 387 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: don't know whether or not I root for that or 388 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: I find that just awful. I found this fascinating. There's 389 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: only two requirements. One is that you're a naturally born 390 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: citizen of the US and the second that you're thirty 391 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: five years old. There's virtually nothing else. You know, there's 392 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: some waivers like if you're born in another country, true, 393 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: but to American parents, you're considered naturally born and you 394 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: have to be reciting in the country for fourteen years. 395 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: But whether you're in prison or not, it doesn't even matter. 396 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the chaos end of days it is? 397 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: And then you have feeble Biden probably being the Democrat nominee. 398 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: So what Trump debates from a prison cell have like 399 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: a split screen ranting about ice cream on one side 400 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: and Trump in a prison cell ranting about being indeeded 401 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: in an orange jumpsuit. Is he using the phone through 402 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: the glass too? Oh yeah, that would be funny. You know. 403 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: The reason we're not Trump fans is he's only doing 404 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: this because he thinks he won the election in twenty 405 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: twenty and that's all about revenge. Sick of that. Most 406 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: people are over that. I am so fed up with that. 407 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: He does have money significant enough following to him the nomination, 408 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: though it looks like, oh yeah, yeah, he definitely does. 409 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to stop that. Yeah, I'm 410 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: just looking at other news sources. NBC just posted two 411 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: minutes ago a story that they've made a decision. But yeah, 412 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: here it is Wall Street Journals. Gran jury votes to 413 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: indict Trump. The exact charges aren't known, but they have 414 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: voted to indict him on something. And of course, for 415 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: folks who don't know, it's all about the money paid 416 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: to Stormy Daniels. And there have been many people in 417 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: the legal profession who have been looking at this kind 418 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: of thinking, really, yeah, Manhattan da Alvin Bragg. A lot 419 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: of times these end up just being misdemeanors. They're real 420 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: surprised that he's pursued this. It's falsification and they're often 421 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: federal charges. But this is a City of Manhattan attorney 422 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: notification of business paperwork, yes, dealing with how they classified 423 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: the payments to Stormy Daniels and the hush money. Yeah, 424 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: because they made payments to is a journey lawyer, Michael 425 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: Cohen one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, right, but the 426 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: eve of the twenty sixteen election, it was hidden inside 427 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: a larger payment to Cohen, and it was also paid 428 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: in uh in chunks, partly from Trump's funds, partly from 429 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: his companies funds, so you know they they diddled around 430 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: to cover it up. Although there's nothing illegal about paying 431 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: hush money to a mistress. No, some of them call 432 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: it like nuisance hanging off a nuisance claim. Right, So 433 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: what what Bragg is supposedly trying to do is tie 434 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: it to a federal law, which this was a unfair 435 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: contribution to Trump's political campaign that wasn't properly closed. Yeah, 436 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: but that's a federal law, and Brag can only file 437 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: charges under state law. So it's it's it's I not 438 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: seeing anyone who says this isn't a murky case. That 439 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: it's not a clear cut prosecution here. Yeah, here's a 440 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: short explanation mister Cohen's twenty eighteen federal guilty plea. He 441 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: admitted to making an excessive campaign contribution to Trump by 442 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: way of buying Daniel's silence. The money he handed to 443 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Daniels to squelch the damaging news was the equivalent to 444 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: mister Cohen donating one hundred and thirty grand more than 445 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: federal law allows to Trump's campaign. That kind of explains 446 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: it there, But that is right, But that's Collen's crime 447 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: that he committed. Right, But that gives you the details 448 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: of what's behind this, right. And then Trump paying Cohen back, 449 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: it says starting in twenty seventeen, Trump and his trust 450 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: cut monthly checks to mister Cohen to reimburse him for 451 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: the payment to miss Daniels. According to federal prosecutors, the 452 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: Trump organization falsely booked the checks is payment for legal 453 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: services that mister Cohen never provided, but hiding the true purpose. 454 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: But the federal prosecutors already investigated this case. They did 455 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: and decided not to press charges. Yes, you are correct, 456 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: if it's been known for years and receives scrutiny already 457 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: by federal prosecutors in the Manhattan US Attorney's Office and 458 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: New York state prosecutors also investigated it. But Bragg has 459 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: decided to make this a big deal. Yeah. So, I 460 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: mean they must be making this, you know, a felony 461 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: charge now. And according to the Times, he will be fingerprinted, 462 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: he will be photographed. He might even be handcuffed. He'll 463 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: be given the standard miranda warning, the right to remain silent, 464 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: right to an attorney. And he wants this to be public. 465 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: According to insiders, Trump wants to be make this very public, 466 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: his arrest and mug shots, because he thinks this amps 467 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: up his people. Oh he wants to be Jesus. Yeah, 468 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: you were saying last week, I think he might go 469 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: in the back door or something, but I don't think 470 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: he wants that. Well, they were negotiating that now, you know, 471 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: the story changed every day. The Secret Service was negotiating 472 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: with NYPD and the court police on how to get 473 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: him without get him in, without shutting down traffic in 474 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: all directions in Manhattan. You know, is there a way 475 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: we could do this peacefully with minimental disruption. But it 476 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: seems like Trump on his own accord wants to make 477 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: a big public disruption. Surprised possible defenses. Trump may say 478 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: he just relied on Cohen's counsel, that he was a 479 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: victim of extortion by Daniels. He may also say that 480 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: the payment and reimburse when mister Cohen occurred so long ago. 481 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: The statue of limitations has passed, But apparently prosecutors can 482 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: argue because Trump has lived out of New York much 483 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: of the past six years, it pauses the statue of 484 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: limitations and New York extended. I'm allowed to bring charges 485 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: during the pandemic or that thing. The pandemic is. It's 486 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: an excuse for everything, wasn't it all? Right? So there's 487 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: your breaking news. A federal grand jury, rather a New 488 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: York grand jury, apparently has voted to indict Trump. We 489 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: don't know specifically the exact charges yet. Johnny Ken k 490 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: I AM six forty, We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 491 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: Prisons are gonna get crowded. You're listening to John and 492 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: Ken on demand from kf I AM sixty Johnny Ken 493 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: Show here in kf I AM six forty and we're 494 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: live on the iHeartRadio app. Yeah, well, you can use 495 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: that app to connect to the Moist line. The calls 496 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: will be playing tomorrows or in the three o'clock hour, 497 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: So this is one of your last reminders. 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Donald Trump 503 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: has been voted an indictment by the grand jury, according 504 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: to the news reports, Yeah Manhattan in New York City. 505 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: We don't know the specific the news just came out, 506 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: but they have voted to indict him, and we'll probably 507 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: learn more about that in the coming hours and tomorrow. 508 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: We don't know anything about when he's going to be 509 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: officially charged, arrested and all that. So there's that drama. 510 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: He's probably loving it because, as I mentioned, his poll 511 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: numbers have really bounced up in the last month. This 512 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: indictment stuff how long. I mean, at any minute now, 513 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: there's got to be a blast coming from him. The 514 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: only thing trouble is, like you said, this better case 515 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: is involving him this one. If people actually are going 516 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: to take the time to read through what it is, 517 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: might just shrug their shoulders. And you know, this payment 518 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: and the book keeping of these payments, this person, this 519 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: is trivial. Well, this is a political indictment, that's what 520 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: it is. It is. Yeah, you know, everybody's playing dirty nap. 521 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw, but the journalist Matt Taiebe, 522 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: who was one of the main journalists who expose the 523 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: Twitter files, the Biden administration and others put pressure for 524 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: Twitter to censor Oh Biden and all that. Well, Matt 525 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: Taievee was testifying about the case before Congress. At the 526 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: same time, an IRS agent came to his home. Oh wow, 527 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: and he just reported that the other day. So the 528 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: Biden administration coincidence. I'm sure sick the IRS on Matt Taiebe. 529 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: He's not better known, that'd be a bigger story. Yeah, 530 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: I know, But I mean this, this is now how 531 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: the game's played. Word that they loved it. They've weaponized 532 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: the weaponize, reaponized the IRS. I think I first heard 533 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Newsom say that. Now we hear it everywhere. They're weaponizing 534 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: institutions against us. It's the new cool word. All right, 535 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: we have a good Deborah Markster. Well it's good and 536 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: it's bad. Well, they nabbed another one of these hunters. Yeah, 537 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: but he had a whole bunch of rare dead sheep 538 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: and his luggage. His luggage, Yeah, yeah sheep. What do 539 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: you mean rare sheep? You want the whole story, I'll 540 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: give it to you. Yes, you can't ask me fifty questions, 541 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: or you can wait for the whole story. We got 542 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: a three hour show. I got tied, all right. So 543 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: this actually happened five years ago. He tried to get 544 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: through San Francisco Airport customs with eight full or partial 545 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: animal corpses. In his personal backage is David Jason Keith Bruce. 546 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: He's forty nine years old from a place called Gault, California. 547 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: Never heard of that. So what happened was he went 548 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: to Pakistan to hunt a pretty rare breed of sheep 549 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's actually called a ladoc urio. You are 550 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: I a l It's an endangered horn sheep, the last 551 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: of which are in Pakistan. So he hooked himself up 552 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: with somebody who specializes in people. A recent survey shows 553 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: is only one hundred and eighty of them left in 554 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: the area where they're hunted. What a nice guy. One 555 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: hundred listed as an endangered on the US Fish and 556 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Wildlife the only one hundred and eighty left in this 557 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: area pa he took eight of them. Yeah, yeah, apparently 558 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: did so. He paid fifty thousand dollars to somebody in 559 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Pakistan to help him find the sheep, and he went 560 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: there and what he wanted to do was bring it 561 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: back to the US to show it off. What a loser, 562 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: just to hang the sheep heads on the walls. Yeah, 563 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: he wanted to. Considered the trophy was an entire barty 564 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: or parts of the body into the US, so he 565 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: had to try to get back. So the idea was 566 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: to try to tell customs that it wasn't the endangered sheep, 567 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 1: that it was some other animal, but that didn't work. 568 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: Apparently they got suspicious enough that they did detesting on 569 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: the skeleton remains and determined was a very luggage. Urials 570 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: had the highest order protection on the website of these 571 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: endangered species. What is wrong with these people? Meaning a 572 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: hunter has to need permission and permits from both the 573 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: US and Pakistan to hunt and export the animal. So 574 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: He tried instead to bribe people and make up false 575 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: documents to get the parts back into the US. But 576 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't even going to eat them. He just wanted 577 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: to hang them on the wall. That's what hunters do. Yes, 578 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't about eating them. The hunters. Have you ever 579 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: known anybody who had a because men that have these 580 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: big dens and you come in there and you see 581 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: all the stuff hanging on the wall. Yes, I have 582 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: seen that. You have seen that. I had. I had 583 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: a friend growing up that they lived in Montana and 584 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: they owned a ranch and they had those they had 585 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: animals on the wall. They had even though you weren't 586 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: a vegan, wasn't a vegan? Then I ate a lot 587 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: of hamburger, but I still didn't. I still didn't like that. 588 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: And then they had like the bear skin, what is 589 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: the skin rugs and all of that. That's I'd never got, 590 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: the dead animal heads on the wall. The trophies, this 591 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: is yeah, their trophies is not what you do. I mean, 592 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: isn't that. A couple of Trump's sons do this, right, 593 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: don't they. Yeah, they go to Africa and big game hunt. Yeah, 594 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: that's disgusting, And they pose with the carcass, which I 595 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: really guys who pose that it holds up the head 596 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: of the dead animal and post photos of them holding 597 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: up dead animals. How could anybody like that? Look at 598 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 1: us all agreeing on an animal. Wow, this is not fun. 599 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: And when we all agree, let's go back to you 600 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: running around naked. That's not It's a nightmare I have. 601 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: So that the tricky part here was the animals are protected. 602 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: There was some sort of a treaty that was signed 603 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: years ago, but the US Pakistan is part of the agreement. 604 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: Because they were trying to figure out, well, he killed 605 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: this animal in Pakistan, how can we charge him here? 606 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: But they cited this international agreement on endanger spaces, so 607 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: that's what they used to get him. If convicted on 608 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: all charges, twenty six years in prison. Deborah Good he 609 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: could get on a fine of five hundred and fifty 610 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I think we need to do something else 611 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: to him and hang something else up on a wall 612 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: that part of him look at it. They also grabbed 613 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Pierre Danish Ali his 614 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: middle name is Danish, who's a hunting Outford and Guide 615 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: Company of Pakistan. Now was he here, did they actually 616 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: they handed down charges against the Mountain if they actually 617 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: went to Pakistan and grabbed him. But the other guy 618 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: is from California and he's been charged. All right. Coming 619 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: up next, we are continuing to celebrate the conviction of 620 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: Mark Ridley Thomas, the suspended Los Angeles City councilman. Now 621 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: he's out on corruption charges. We'll have more too on 622 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 1: the Trump's story. A grand jury in New York apparently 623 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: has voted to indict the former president. John and Kenned 624 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: and calf I AM six forty We're live everywhere the 625 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. Debra Mark Latin the twenty for our 626 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Cafe newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John and 627 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Ken Show. 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