1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: What two three rights. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: In the middle of the family. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 3: He loves football. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Down in the one yard line. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: How about that? 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 4: That is the ultimate kabash. 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: And we are underway. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Action 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Network NFL podcast. I'm Matthew Freeman, the editor in chief 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: of Fantasy Labs. We are back with another episode on 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: the Alliance of American Football. The AAF is week three 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: and we have some action to cover. Per usual, I'm 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: joined by our resident Alliance expert, Ian Hart. It's the 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: director of the Fantasy Labs NFL platform and an Action 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Network analyst. And we were also very happy to be 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: joined by the godfather, Evan Silva, the senior football editor 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: at roadal World. I would say a guy who's passion 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: for and knowledge of football are outweighed only by the 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: generosity with which he promotes upcoming talent in the industry. Evan, 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: I really cannot say enough good things about you, so 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm just going to stop trying. Evan, how are you doing? 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, man. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: It's been really fun to watch you guys pour yourselves 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: into this AAF over the last three weeks. 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: I just jumped into it, like over. 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: The last week so I'm trying to play catch up 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: with you guys. But you know, now after playing some 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: af dfs, kind of getting my butt whipped in the 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: first week, you know, just didn't have enough knowledge yet, 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm I'm gonna be competitive and I'm 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: really excited to break down the slate with you. 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: Felts Well, the guy who has really been doing almost 33 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: all of the work for the Alliance for Action Network 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: has definitely been Ian and Ian. You were on the 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Fantasy Peace Pod earlier this week with Evan and Ross 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: Tucker talking about the Alliance. Are you excited for yet 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: another AAF conversation with Evan here? 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 5: It's a good time, guys. You know, had a good 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: time on the Feast for sure, But yeah, I don't know. 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: I thought my NFL stuff was pretty good during the 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: year and get a little hype there. But hey, I'll 42 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: take all the love I can get with AF as well. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 5: So it's talking about football in February again. Boys, can't 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: get much better. 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: Guys, let's get into it. One thing that really was 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: interesting that happened this week. The NHL Hurricanes owner Tom 47 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Dundan invested two hundred and fifty million into the Alliance 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, becoming the new chairman of the league. There 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: were some reports that potentially this was a bailout package. 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to know exactly what this means, 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: except I think this means some good things for the league, 52 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of regardless of whether this was necessary or not 53 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: from a financial perspective. But Evan, I'd like to hear 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Dundon as a like a maverick figure 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: who might be able to do some really good things 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: for this league. 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I read a bunch of articles about 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: him yesterday. I just wanted to learn a little bit 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: about his background. He's forty six years old, so he's 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: really young relative to certainly all NFL owners. So you 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: kind of like that, You think that he might be 62 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: a little bit more progressive, a little bit more forward thinking. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: He's a self made businessman. 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: He's not you know, he didn't like inherit the team 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: like John Mayrau or you know, didn't just wasn't just 66 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: born into wealth and ownership of a sports organization. He 67 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: went out and bought the Carolina Hurricanes in the NHL. 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: He loved sports. 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: He was one of the biggest early investors into top golf, 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: which has kind of taken off, I think. 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: And one thing that I kept coming back to and. 72 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: All the articles that I read about him, is that 73 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: he really placed a major priority on the fan experience. 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: And I think that in. 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: Order for the af to really excel, they need to 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: get butts in the seats, you know, they need to 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 3: fill the seats, they need to sell tickets. I think 78 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: that they're very aware of this, and I think that 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: this guy might be the right guy to help do that. 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: And you know, the fact that, look, the league was 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: allegedly reportedly in some early financial turmoil, you know, don't 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: love hearing that, obviously, But at the same time, like 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: they just got two hundred and fifty million dollars, so 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: they're not in financial turmoil anymore, and you know, certainly 85 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't be for the rest of this season. You know, 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: Dundon believes that two hundred and fifty million is going 87 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: to get them into you know, well into year two, 88 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: if not into year three. It sounds like he might 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: even be interested in funding an expansion team in Raleigh, 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: North Carolina, you know, because this league is going to 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: want to expand if it has initial success. 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: But I'm also interested to hear what you guys think 93 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: about it. 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this. I think this feels like very 95 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban to me, like that seems like the type 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: of guy that this is, So I think it's a 97 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: good thing. Ian any thoughts on this, and then also 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: starts to thinking about kind of the review of week two, 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: any notable trends that you notice for some teams or 100 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: players for sure. 101 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it just seemed like this came out of nowhere, 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: and I think it would have been a lot better 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: at the AAF kind of could have been on top 104 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: of it and getting it released in the media, because 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: it came out and seemed like people were still worried 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 5: about the players weren't getting their salaries paid, which you 107 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: know was a glitch and they'd already fixed that. It 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 5: just seemed like people were being told like the worst 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 5: parts of this potential deal, like before we even heard 110 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: about the good things. I mean, yeah, two and fifty 111 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 5: million dollars is getting injected into a startup and the 112 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: owner already has eyes on year two. 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: I think if that. 114 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: Would have been the first thing most people heard, it'd 115 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 5: be a lot different kind of conversation about it. So, yeah, 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 5: I mean, young, smart people with pockets full of cash. 117 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: Can't have enough of them in a growing league. So 118 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 5: all about that, And yeah, I know, moving on just 119 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: a little bit now looking ahead to week three. A 120 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: couple of things we've seen these first two weeks guys, 121 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: is I think for this league to keep expanding and 122 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 5: keep being successful, we need more good quarterbacks. I think 123 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 5: right now there's four, maybe five. It's looking like Josh 124 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: Woodam's going to be back healthy. But I mean, I 125 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: think that Orlando San Antonio game last week really showed 126 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 5: that it can be a fun product and you know, 127 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 5: really get some good eyeballs if we do have two 128 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: confident offenses moving the ball. You know, football still football 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: if we get you know, some of those natch ups 130 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 5: between the lesser squads Diego Atlanta rings a bell, but 131 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: just you know, emphasizing the good quarterbacks that they stand 132 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: out so far. And the really big difference also is 133 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: we literally have one bell cow right now in the 134 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 5: AF and his name is Trent Richardson. So take all 135 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 5: your Trent three point zero biases aside. This is the 136 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: one guy getting the ball, So I need to keep 137 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 5: that in mind. And my last kind of takeaway and 138 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: curious on Evans NFL comps for these guys. But I 139 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 5: think Charles Johnson, Rashad Ross, and Quentin Patten are top 140 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 5: three wide receivers. So I'd love to hear which one 141 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 5: of those guys are OBJ, which one's Julio and all that. 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, no, I mean, just to spice it 143 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: up a little bit. 144 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: It's fun to think of, you know, Ja Kwan Gardner 145 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: as this league's version of Morris Jones Drew and maybe 146 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: Charles Johnson is like this league's version of Julio Jones, 147 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 3: and Rashaun Ross as this league's version of Tyreek Hill. 148 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: Maybe Anthony Denham will emerge as you know, this league's 149 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: version of Aaron Hernandez on the field. You know, it's 150 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: kind of it kind of spices it up. But I 151 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: totally agree with your point about, you know, the haves 152 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: and the have nots in this league are the teams 153 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: the has are the teams that have the quarterbacks, you know, 154 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: they're I think that there's kind of and I think 155 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: that some people disagree with this, but I think that 156 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: just in terms of like power rankings for the league. 157 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: But to me, like there's a clear top tier it's 158 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: the Orlando Apollos in the Arizona hot Shots, they have 159 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: quality quarterback play. I think that the jury is out 160 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: and then there's like a middle tier and the jury 161 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: is out on three teams. 162 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: The Birmingham Iron with. 163 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: Luis Perez, the San Antonio Commanders right now with Logan 164 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: Woodside and maybe Marquise Williams, who we're going to get to, 165 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: and the Salt Lake Stallions, who unfortunately had to trot 166 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: out Austin Allen last week and he was you know, 167 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: that doesn't get a whole lot worse than three point 168 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: six US per pass attempt. But it looks like Josh 169 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: Woodrom is going to come back. We're going to talk 170 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: about him. He's a guy who's had a lot of 171 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: success in NFL preseasons the past two years. And then 172 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: at the bottom, I think are the teams that pretty 173 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: clearly don't have quality quarterback play, and that's Memphis with Hackenberg, 174 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: Atlanta with Matt Simms, and then San Diego under Mike 175 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: March who. I mean, that team needs to be a 176 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: run first team right now, I think. But yeah, that's 177 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: how I kind of tear the team so far through 178 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: two week entering week three. 179 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: You know, one thing that's interesting and so part of 180 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: it is the quarterback situation in which maybe there aren't 181 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: enough good quarterbacks in the league. But I also think 182 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: some of it as a coaching situation and maybe a 183 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: scheme situation where you do have some coaches who aren't 184 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: using the quarterbacks they have in the best way that 185 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: they could be. And you see situations like this in 186 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: the NFL too, where you have coaches who aren't very 187 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: good at maximizing the talents of their quarterbacks, and so like, 188 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: from a developmental perspective, like for the league, I think 189 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: it will be important, like in year two or you know, 190 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: even in the second half of the season, for the 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: coaches to start to think, not only are you developing 192 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, but you're also developing coaches. To think, are 193 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: there coaches who can take these quarterbacks and find the 194 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: way to maximize them instead of just trotting them out 195 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: there and letting them get killed in a scheme that 196 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: doesn't work for them. Any thoughts on that. 197 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I'm with you there. 198 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 5: It looks like Mike Martin started to kind of make 199 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: that decision here this second week. I'm in Week one, 200 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 5: San Diego at the highest. 201 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: Pass play rate in the league. 202 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: I mean, we all saw their quarterback it absolutely beheaded 203 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: early on in that matchup. And then week two they 204 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: went ahead and I really ran the ball right down 205 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 5: Atlanta's throat. Jakwan Gardner in that running game have been 206 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: the most efficient in the league so far. You know, 207 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: it makes sense when you're down to your third quarterback 208 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 5: pretty much, and San Diego, when you consider Josh Johnson 209 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 5: was supposed to be there once upon a time, they're 210 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: on the third quarterback, run the balls what they're good at. 211 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: Look like last week they finally took the steps to 212 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 5: start running the ball more. So, I'll be interested to see, 213 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 5: if you know, teams like that continue to do what 214 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: they've done well. 215 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: Evan, are there any things you see in the Alliance 216 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: that you like and that you maybe want to see 217 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the NFL adopt. 218 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: I just have been pretty impressed by the offensive concepts. 219 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: We've got a couple of quarterbacks that have had super 220 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: high play action rates. You know, in the NFL there 221 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: were only three or four quarterbacks that had play action 222 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: rates over thirty percent. In this eight team league, we've 223 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: got two quarterbacks that are well over thirty percent at 224 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: with Logan Woodside and John Walford, you know, Hermsmeyer and 225 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,239 Speaker 3: you know, the data community has really shown the advantage 226 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: and Sean McVay himself have shown the advantage of play 227 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: action passes. You know, whether or not you have an 228 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: elite running game the hot shots too. John Walford does 229 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,119 Speaker 3: have an elite running game at his disposal. San Antonio 230 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: has been a little bit more up and down, yet 231 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: Logan Woodside has like at least shown flashes. I think 232 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: that Steve Spurrier and Rick Neuheisel, of course they were 233 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: you know, they are in a favorable position because they 234 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: have the best two quarterbacks in the league so far. 235 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: But I kind of wonder if their time away from 236 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: the game, because I think that Spurrier walked away from 237 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: the from South Carolina in twenty fifteen, and Rick Neuheisel 238 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: hasn't coached since twenty eleven. He's been an analyst. You know, 239 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: these coaches, Like I wonder what they were they were 240 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: doing during their time off in terms of like watching 241 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: teams and you know thinking, you know, if I do 242 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: get back into coaching, I would use those offensive concepts 243 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: and Steve Spurrier doesn't necessarily come from an air raid 244 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: background at all, but his team kind of plays in 245 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: it with an air raid mindset. I think, I mean, 246 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: big time vertical passing team. And then with Rick Neuheisel, 247 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: they have been pretty run heavy. Actually, I mean John 248 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 3: Wolford has not even gotten to thirty pass attempts in 249 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: either of their first two games. But they're using run 250 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: pass option plays, They're using, you know, like I mentioned, 251 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: a ton of play action. They're playing up tempo to 252 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: the point where I mean they're wearing out their opponents 253 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 3: late in games. Mike Singletary, I mean his Memphis Express 254 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: team was beating Arizona for what the majority of last 255 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: week's game, admitted that his team just ran out of gas. 256 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: And you know, the hot Shots had played at this 257 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: very high tempo and have really come from behind in 258 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: each of their first two games. So I just I've 259 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: been pretty impressed by the offensive concepts, and I think 260 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: that the two offenses that have stand out have been 261 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: the coaches that had a lot of success, you know, 262 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: at the college level, took some time away, and now 263 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: they're having success with progressive concepts after that time away. 264 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 5: And anything you like, Yeah, I agree, with everything Evan said, 265 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 5: just from like watching the games, one the things I 266 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: found incredibly entertaining that I never would have thought of 267 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 5: is these live videos of the replay officials going through 268 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: their citizens have been fantastic. I mean, the big Jalen 269 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: Marshall one in a week one kind of got everyone's 270 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: attention to it, but just week after week, it's fun 271 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: to hear him kind of go through it and it 272 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: just adds, you know, an extra layer of entertainment to 273 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 5: what's usually a pretty boring and mundane part of the game. 274 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: So I'm all for them just trying to kind of 275 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: help out these lag times in NFL games, because it 276 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 5: is hard to sometimes sit through three and a half 277 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 5: four hours of action. So I appreciate, you know, the 278 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 5: AF trying to make you know, these lag times more entertaining, 279 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: you know, increase the pace of play without kickoffs and 280 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 5: things of that nature. 281 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: So I love it. 282 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: Man. 283 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 5: Hopefully they keep trying to continue to act like this 284 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 5: minor league where they're you know, happy to be a 285 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: G league ask organization and really go out there with 286 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: some new rules. 287 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and totally agree with that. The pace of play, 288 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: the kind of smaller things around the game that make 289 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: the game a little more entertaining as someone sitting on 290 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: your couch watching it. I think those things are important. Okay, 291 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: let's get into the action for this weekend. The first 292 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: game we have three pm on Saturday, the Arizona hot 293 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Shots at the Salt Lake Stallions. We have just had 294 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: some lines released, so the hot Shots are three and 295 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: a half point favorites. The over under is forty six. 296 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: This is a rematch of the Week one game. I 297 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: any thoughts kind of shooting from the hip on what 298 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: we might see in this game. 299 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so remembering back that Week one game, Arizona one 300 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: convincingly thirty eight to twenty two. The thing is, Josh 301 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: Woodrom was only playing the first half before he heard 302 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: his hamstring. Salt Lake was only down nineteen to sixteen 303 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 5: at halftime before Woodrom left, and I think that's why 304 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: we're seeing this line only out of three and a 305 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 5: half points for the hot Shots right now, still early 306 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 5: in the week, but Woodrom was practicing. On Tuesday, Dennis 307 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: Ericson came out pretty much said he expects to have 308 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 5: him back this week, So much better prognosis than we 309 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 5: had last week, where it's kind of a game time decision. 310 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: But hadn't heard Ericson. 311 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: Really give any good words about Woodrom all week, so 312 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: expecting to see kind of the best version of the 313 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 5: Salt Lake team that we've seen all season. But the 314 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: one thing that I'm interested in here is, like you said, 315 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: it is a rematch of Week one, and one big 316 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: thing Jonathan Bales has touched on a lot over the 317 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: years is quarterbacks in the NFL and their second matchup 318 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 5: versus Division have performed significantly worse, at least in terms 319 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 5: of fantasy, which was obviously correlated with on field success 320 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 5: as well. I mean, specifically with our Fantasy Labs Trends tool, 321 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 5: quarterbacks have a fifty two percent consistency rating against non 322 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: division opponents late in the decision drops all the way 323 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: to forty four perc in division. So I could definitely see, 324 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: you know, only two weeks of the offense to improve. 325 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: I think the edge here is on the defense. 326 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense, Evan. Anything that you 327 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: kind of notice about this game, thoughts on maybe how 328 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the two teams might match up, Yeah, I. 329 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: Think that the Stallions are dangerous in this game, and 330 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: I think that that line that came out probably surprised 331 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: some people. I mean, you have an zero to two 332 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: Salt Lake Stallions team facing a two to zero Arizona 333 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: hot Shots team, which is you know, generated some mainstream notice, 334 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: like people have heard of the Arizona hot Shots at 335 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: this point, and like people probably haven't even heard of 336 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 3: the Salt Lake Stallions at this point. But as Ian mentioned, 337 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: Salt Lake was very competitive in that first game against 338 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: this same Arizona hot Shots team in Arizona before Woodron 339 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: went down, And last week they should have won the 340 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: damn game against Birmingham, and I think is a top 341 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: three or four team in the league in Birmingham, except 342 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: they botched you know, four field goals missing three and 343 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: Matt Ossi out of course losing a fumble inside the 344 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: ten yard line of the iron, Salt Lake should have won, 345 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: you know. I mean even with much poorer quarterback play 346 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: Austin Allen at quarterback, and now looks like they're going 347 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: to be getting back Josh Woodrom. Josh Woodrum over the 348 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: last two NFL preseasons sixty seven percent completions over eight 349 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: yards for past the ten three touchdowns, one interception, two 350 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns, So I think that he can really breathe 351 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: some life back into this this salt Lake offense, assuming 352 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: that he can make it through the game healthy. His 353 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: number one receiver in that first game was the tight 354 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: end Anthony Denham, who has played for a couple of 355 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: NFL teams, mostly with the Houston Texans. He had seven 356 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: targets in the first game five catches for fifty nine 357 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: yards against again this. 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Same hot Shots defense. 359 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: Salt Lake has not played a game at home yet, 360 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: so they're finally getting their home opener and they're facing 361 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: this Arizona team that began with two home games. I 362 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: think the salt Lake is dangerous. 363 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. And one thing I've noticed, this 364 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: line has popped up at another place and it's actually 365 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: minus four at that other place, and so I think 366 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: there could be opportunities. I could see this line moving 367 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: during the week where if you like the Salt Lake Stallions, 368 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: it might be the play just to kind of even 369 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: wait a little bit and maybe you can get that 370 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: line at a better price. Because I do agree with 371 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you that this is an interesting team with the Stallions, 372 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: and people are probably going to like the Hotshots. Gravitate 373 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: towards the hot Shots because they are two and zero 374 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: and they did win that first game. Ian thoughts on 375 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: this game, any takeaways potentially from week two that we 376 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: can apply forward. 377 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, big thing to remember I think is, like Evan said, 378 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 5: salt Lake is not really an zero to two squad. 379 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 5: I mean, by all intents and purposes, they should have 380 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 5: beat Birmingham week two and we're playing competitive with Woodrum 381 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 5: and week one. The one thing I'm really looking for 382 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 5: in this game is if salt Lake can do a 383 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 5: better job in the secondary, because so far as year 384 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 5: they've actually been the top defense and yards per rush allowed, 385 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: they've been six and narrows per pass and obviously, facing 386 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 5: John Walford and company, that's the last thing you want 387 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 5: to kind of be struggling at. But I think they 388 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 5: could actually have some luck this week because Josh Huff 389 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 5: wasn't able to practice Tuesday with an illness, Richard Mulaney 390 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 5: was limited with I believe a knee injury he might 391 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: have suffered during practice. So I mean, Rashad Ross has 392 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 5: been the guy there. 393 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: He hasn't even needed. 394 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 5: Many targets to just completely devastate any defense he's gone 395 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: up against. But if Arizona's banged up and salt Lake's 396 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 5: able to stop the run like usual, I think they 397 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 5: have a little bit better chance of maybe limiting the 398 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: passing game. 399 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: All right, So Evan, you are on you're on this 400 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Talian side on this Ian. Do you have any way 401 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: that you're kind of leaning on this game? 402 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: I like the under more than anything. 403 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 5: The first total I saw was forty six, which is 404 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 5: the highest of the week. And I'm kind of riding 405 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: that second matchup pro defense strategy I mentioned earlier, So 406 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: I'll be taking under here and in the matchup. 407 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the points with salt Lake as well. 408 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting point. Yeah, and kind of going 409 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: along with the the trend that the Bills hadn't noticed 410 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: that you mentioned earlier. We typically do see in rematches 411 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: we see the underhit more often than the over because 412 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: those defenses are more familiar and it's not as not 413 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: as easy for the offenses to do what they want. 414 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Let's go to that second game on Saturday. We have 415 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: the Memphis Express playing at the Orlando Apollos. The Apollos 416 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: favored by fourteen. Oh man, that's a big number. The 417 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: over under is forty five and a half. Ian give 418 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: us some takeaways from we two. 419 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking maybe we could make another week 420 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 5: without seeing a two touchdown dog, but I guess not. 421 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: Guys, geezh, Yeah. 422 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 5: I mean Memphis was beating the best team in the league, Arizona. 423 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 5: I mean some people's idea the best team in the 424 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: league for most of that game. I mean they were 425 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 5: up eighteen to I believe it was six pretty early on, 426 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: and Memphis goes on to pretty much lose four into eighteen. 427 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 5: I mean Zach Stacy was able to get galling. He 428 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: was the first running back with over one hundred yards. 429 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 5: I mean, Christian Hackenberg deserves zer zero credit for getting 430 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: them that lead. I mean, at one point in the 431 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 5: broadcast they mentioned in the third quarter, you know, with 432 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: a two score lead, Brandon Silvers was warming up on 433 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 5: the sideline up potentially ready to replace Hackenberg. So far 434 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 5: from a secure situation under center. There, even the Zach 435 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 5: Stacy game, o don't. I mean, he looked good and 436 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 5: everything popped off a nice forty plus yard drum, but 437 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 5: it just seems like more of a fluid backfield. I'm 438 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 5: more inclined to maybe go to his backup, Terrence McGee. 439 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 5: But we can talk about that a little bit later, 440 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: and yeah, on the other side of the ball, Orlando 441 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: looked like the only team that can really challenge Arizona 442 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 5: with that big win against San Antonio, and their offenses 443 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 5: easily looked like the best kind of passing unit in 444 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: the league behind Garrett, Gilbert and Evan was bringing up 445 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 5: some good play action rates earlier. But the one thing 446 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 5: I really noticed with Orlando Gilbert thirty percent of his 447 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: passes have been attempted at least twenty yards downfield this season. 448 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: No NFL quarterback has even cleared twenty percent in the 449 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: last five years. So, I mean, this Sun and Gun 450 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 5: offense in Orlando is really chucking the ball downfield. 451 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: It's been fun to watch. 452 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: And then what do you think of these two teams here? 453 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know, the best team in 454 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: the league facing you know, arguably the worst team in 455 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: the league. I think that Memphis is probably a little 456 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: bit better than Atlanta, but I mean it looks like, 457 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it looks like Memphis might get shut out here. 458 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: You know, this could be like like a forty to 459 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 3: nothing sort of blowout. I mean, the teams just, you know, 460 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 3: based on their performance to this point, just you know, 461 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 3: at opposite ends of the spectrum. Ian did mention how 462 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: Zach Stacy kind of got going last week, and that's 463 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: really the only way that Memphis has the ability to 464 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: generate any kind of offense. 465 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: He also mentioned how Silbers was warming up. What the 466 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: heck is Zach. 467 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: Mettenberger doing on the on the sideline. He's not warming up, 468 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: He's over there smoking cigarettes. I mean, what is what? 469 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: Why can Mettenberger not get in any of these games? 470 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: He's not even a consideration from like a daily fantasy standpoint. 471 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 3: You know, I think that we've got Garrett Gilbert and 472 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: Charles Johnson the clear number one quarterback in the clear 473 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: number one receiver play in this game. The Express have 474 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: already been lit up for six completions of thirty plus 475 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: yards in two games. Quentin Patten went over one hundred 476 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: yards against them in Week one. Last week, Josh huff 477 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: at eighty four yards. Rashad Ross had four catches for 478 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: sixty seven yards in a touchdown. So, I mean, I 479 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: don't think that there's anybody in the Memphis secondary that 480 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: can hang with Charles Johnson. The Apollos really go four 481 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: deep at receiver. They have a lot of receiver actually 482 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: five deep. Their number two is Jalen Marshall formerly of 483 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: the Jets, Chris Thompson who's played for the Texans, speedster 484 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: Renelle Hall who's been in the NFL a little bit, 485 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: and then Ishmiel Hyman so. And they're not throwing the 486 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: ball to running backs very much. They're ignoring their tight 487 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: ends in the passing game, and they go really go 488 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: five deep at wide receiver. I just I don't think 489 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: that Memphis is going to be able to deal with 490 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: them very well from a DFS standpoint. My biggest conundrum 491 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 3: here is trying to figure out the running back to 492 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: capitalize on this seat situation. Because it looks like the 493 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: Orlando Apollo should be in really good run friendly game scripts. 494 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: But which backer are we going to be looking at? 495 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: It is going to be a Keen Hunt who was 496 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: really good in the first game, total non factor in 497 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: the second game. Ernest Johnson who looked really good last 498 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: week and he was the. 499 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: Back of choice for years, back of choice in crunch time. 500 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: And then Daveon Smith who he's big ran four eight 501 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: five coming out of Michigan, but he led the running 502 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 3: backs and snaps and targets last week. He's already got 503 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: two touchdowns to two point conversions. He's getting the ball 504 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: in scoring positions, So you know, I think that the 505 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: apollo should roll, and then how do we fit that 506 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: toward the. 507 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: Decisions that we make in Daily Fantasy? Ian? 508 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that? 509 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm riding with debian Smith out of that backfield 510 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: because it does look like, like Evan says, he's getting 511 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 5: those kind of goal line two point conversion opportunities one 512 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 5: day are available. I mean, I know it hunts the 513 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: biggest name there, but that dude cannot get going in 514 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: the passing game. He might legit be kind of the 515 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 5: third worst back in that backfield, but still seems like 516 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 5: a fluid situation. I mean overall, I mean, right now, 517 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 5: Orlando and San Diego have the two highest pass play 518 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 5: rates in the league. So I definitely do think they're 519 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 5: out there to throw the ball. You know, we saw 520 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 5: that last week, but they didn't even really commit to 521 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: the run till the game's final possession. So yeah, I 522 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: think also in DFS, keep in mind that this is 523 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: pretty much you know, four or five, it's mostly four 524 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 5: wide receiver deep. I thought Hymen was a little more 525 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: involved last week. He only had like two snaps. So 526 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 5: if you want to go down a little bit off 527 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 5: of a Marshall and Charles Johnson, save some money. Chris 528 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 5: Thompson definitely a guy to keep an eye on, as 529 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: well as I'm sorry the other guy who's name escapes soon. 530 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 5: Because all four of these receivers are in PFF's top 531 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 5: nine yards per out run. When you're in an offense 532 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 5: that's throwing the ball downfield this much, it's going to 533 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: be great for any anyone involved in the passing game. 534 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 5: And I mean Memphis I think has played better on defense, 535 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 5: and some people give them credit for at least in 536 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: the first three quarters of these games, but they have wilted. 537 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 5: It's tough to see, you know, Hackenburg really stopping keeping 538 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: the ball enough to stop that from happening. If you're 539 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 5: gonna wrote against Orlando, get ready for some big plays. 540 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 5: So it's tough for me to get away from Orlando. 541 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 542 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: The one thing that's interesting to me is that last week, 543 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted to stay away from the Memphis 544 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: Express as much as I could, and then when I 545 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: saw the line, so I believe it opened at thirteen 546 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: or thirteen and a half and then it ultimately moved 547 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: to sixteen, and when I saw it get to sixteen, 548 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I had to bet it. But I don't know if 549 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in a situation like that this week. 550 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my head is going to think, Okay, 551 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: this line is going to move. As we're recording this, 552 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: it's already moved to fourteen and a half, and like 553 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: I think, it will probably continue to move. It could 554 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: get to sixteen again. I just don't know even then 555 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: if I'm going really to one to back Hackenberg two 556 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: weeks in a row this week on the road against 557 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: an Apollo's team that I think is really really good. 558 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't know if I want 559 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: to be laying fourteen fourteen and a half points either. Evan, 560 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: do you have any any lean on this game? 561 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably go under and Apollos to cover. Yeah, 562 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, And one thing also to note 563 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: about the Apollos is that their secondary is just absolutely 564 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 3: lights out. You know, They've got a ton of NFL players. 565 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: Will Hill was like a top five safety and at 566 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus a couple of years ago. 567 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: Keith Reezer has been one of the league shutdown corners. 568 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: So far Marquez White was a member of that Florida 569 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: State national championship team. Ladarius Gunter was out here covering 570 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 3: Dez Bryant in a playoff game not too long ago, 571 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: getting beat. But you know, I mean he has like 572 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 3: NFL playoff game starting experience, and you know, so far 573 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: they have held opposing quarterbacks to forty two percent completions, 574 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: five yards per attempt, one touchdown, four interceptions. You know, 575 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 3: we're not gonna It's gonna come down to like the 576 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: running game for Memphis and Zach Stacy. You know, he's 577 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 3: one of the best backs in the league, no question, 578 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: But I mean it's the offense is so one dimensional 579 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: in Memphis. I don't think the Brandon Silvers is the answer. 580 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: You know, even if he comes in and replaces Hacking 581 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: and you. 582 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: Haven't lean on this game, yeah, I'm not. 583 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: The over unders is tough for me to tell because 584 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: it's pretty much like, can Orlando score forty six points? 585 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: They might be able to, and you know, because I'm 586 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 5: not expecting anything from Memphis, but I think I'm riding 587 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 5: with the heavy favorite this week, taking Orlando, and even 588 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: if that does get up to sixteen, I mean, I 589 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: won't be pounding it. But yeah, I'm more inclined to 590 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: take those points this week. So I think Orlando, even 591 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: if they might not be convincingly better than Arizona, I 592 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 5: think they do definitely have the more explosive offense. 593 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, Ian, I hear you. I loved everything you 594 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: just said there. But guess what I love more Mack Weldon. 595 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: On previous shows, I talked about how I loved Mack 596 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: Weldon so much that I had to wear their clothes 597 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: all the time. Now my love for mac Daddy Weldon 598 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: has deepened. 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Guys, you don't need to tell 632 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: me how great of a job I did on that 633 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: ad read. I got through it without even laughing. Let's 634 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: get back to the alliance. On Sunday, we have two games. 635 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: The Birmingham Iron six point favorites at the Atlanta Llegend. 636 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: The over under is forty points. I'm just gonna say, 637 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm already hammering the under like the Atlanta Legends the 638 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: under for them. For me, that is just like the 639 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: thing I'm like automatically going to under bet for the 640 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: entire season, and I'm just not even gonna think twice 641 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: about it. Ian give us some takeaways from week two. 642 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't. 643 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 5: I don't hate your decision making there with Atlanta. I 644 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 5: thought you were about to throw some shade on on 645 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: my guy, Luis Perez, I would have stopped you there. 646 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 5: I do think Birmingham is a little better on offense 647 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 5: than they showed last week. I mean, really wasn't good 648 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: Salt Lake should have won that game. We talked about 649 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 5: all the kind of field goals they weren't able to make, 650 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: but Birmingham basically won because they're awesome. Cornerback Jamars Summers, 651 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 5: who should be in any Defensive Player of the Year conversation, 652 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 5: forced to fumble that end up intercover for a touchdown 653 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: on a part return, and then Perez was able to 654 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 5: go get points with a short tout I run by 655 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 5: Richard sam with about five minutes left to win the game. 656 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 5: So definitely a competitive game against Salt Lake. But hey, 657 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 5: Birmingham was pretty much the consensus league worst team in 658 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 5: terms of the preseason odds. Now they're sitting here at 659 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: two and l with you know, only six point favorites 660 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: versus well, I think is easily the worst team in 661 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: the league. So chance for Birmingham to kind of be 662 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 5: probably the league's easily most unlikely three and zero team. 663 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 5: On the other side of the ball, Atlanta's offense finally 664 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: looked like I got something that wasn't quite as terrible 665 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 5: last week. Matt sim started off like thirteen or fifteen still, 666 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: just you know, they're not pushing the ball downfield. He 667 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 5: had twenty five pass attempts for one hundred and sixty yards. 668 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: Not like they're getting anything explosive. I thought the kind 669 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 5: of big note to come out of the backfield is 670 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: Terry On Fulson is definitely not the guy there, and 671 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 5: it seemed like the fantasy relevant dude is now Akram Wildly. 672 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: Excuse me if I'm messing his name up, but the 673 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: guy came away caught eight of eight targets for seventy yards. 674 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: My question is is this legit or is this kind 675 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 5: of like a Ludarius Perkins thing where he just got 676 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: a bunch of checkdowns one week Because I'm kind of 677 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 5: leaning towards the ladder there. 678 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting and I'd like to hear your thoughts 679 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: on it. I mean, Watley at Iowa was the guy 680 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: who was a very good pass catching back like that 681 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: is a key part of his skill set, So that 682 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: could be something that he continues to do moving forward. 683 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of it was also kind 684 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: of game script. He was just in a situation where 685 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: he was going to get targets out of the backfield. 686 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, Evan, what are your thoughts on maybe the 687 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: backfield there, but then also this matchup in general. 688 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, The big thing that I'm looking for in this 689 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: game is, you know, is Birmingham gonna show up? 690 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: Like I just don't know how good they are right now. 691 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: I thought they were good after the first game, but 692 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: they should have lost the second game. As we mentioned 693 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: to a team quarterback by Austin Allen, the quarterbacks that 694 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: they've faced, and they've already gotten this nickname the Birmingham 695 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: Iron Curtain. The facts that they faced through two weeks 696 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: are Austin Allen and Christian Hackenberg. Okay, so they have 697 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: not really been tested on defense. We can say that 698 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: they put up a pretty good offensive performance in Week one. 699 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: They did wind up stalling a bunch in the red 700 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: zone settle for a bunch of field goals. The running 701 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: game has been super inefficient. Luis Paris I thought was 702 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: going to be in that conversation with Walford and Gilbert 703 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 3: as you know, a top three quarterback in this league. 704 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: But man, this dude is slow. 705 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: Like you know, as the sample size grows, sometimes these 706 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: guys get exposed and Louce Perez has really slow feet. 707 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: Get you get him under pressure and it's going to 708 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: be problematic. 709 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: You know. 710 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: He ran five two seven forty coming out of Texas 711 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: A and M Commerce. I think that he is a 712 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: decent passer, and I think that Quentin Patton is a 713 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: pretty good number one receiver relative to this league. But 714 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: you know, they've they've had very favorable circumstances in terms 715 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: of their opponents so far. 716 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: They've also played for both of their first two. 717 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 3: Games at home, and now they're going on the road 718 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 3: to face this like dead Atlanta team that no one respects. 719 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: And this dead Atlanta team open the season with both 720 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: of their games on the road. 721 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: So it's a really interesting game. 722 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: Like you know, from from all those kind of like 723 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: sports betting standpoints, you know, will they will those sports 724 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: betting old school theories apply. 725 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: In this league. 726 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, but I am with you 727 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: guys on the under at this point. Trent Richardson, like 728 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: the inefficiency that he has shown so far is so 729 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: reminiscent of him in the NFL. But the Atlanta Legends 730 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: have been the worst team against the run so far, 731 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: five point six yards per carry to opposing running backs. 732 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 3: This needs to be the game where Trent Richardson really 733 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: shows us that he can run the ball in this league. 734 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that from a matchup perspective, this is 735 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: the Trent Richardson. He has like one hundred and fifty 736 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 1: yard game and people are like, that's Trent Richardson. Yeah, 737 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: people are they're going to go crazy for it. Ian. 738 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: What are you seeing in terms of the matchup between 739 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: these two teams. 740 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's mentioning how Perez is a pretty slow guy, 741 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 5: and he's also being slow just getting rid of the ball. 742 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 5: I mean just looking at release times, which I think 743 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 5: is part on the quarterback and also part on this scheme. 744 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 4: And when we see John Walford. 745 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 5: With the quickest release time, I think that's both him 746 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: doing a good job getting the ball out quick and 747 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 5: also Arizona put him in favorable situations to get the 748 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 5: ball out quick, so ce Perez have the slowest release time. Though, 749 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 5: I think kind of backs up what you watch on 750 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 5: film when you look at Birmingham, it's this offense definitely 751 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 5: does not seem like one of the better you know, 752 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 5: on Arizona or on Orlando's level, in terms of kind 753 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 5: of the schemes are running on what. 754 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: They're able to do. 755 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 5: A whole bunch of first and ten runs of Trent 756 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 5: regards and it seems like I mean, anytime you give 757 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 5: a running back forty two carries and he has ninety 758 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 5: nine rushing yards and there seems to be no concern 759 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 5: in the organization about, hey, maybe we should consider changing 760 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 5: this up a little bit. I mean, I'm worried about that. 761 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: But with that said, I mean, I know they haven't 762 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 5: been tested, but they're not about to be tested this week, 763 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 5: I don't think either. So this is one more week 764 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 5: for Birmingham. I think to kind of skip by as 765 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 5: the potential pretender disguised as a contender, because if Atlanta, 766 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 5: which happened to stop a run game all season, can't 767 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: stop the one thing that everyone kind of knows Birmingham 768 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 5: wants to do, it's. 769 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: Gonna be tough for Atlanta to stand up at all. 770 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: All right, So Ian, you are on Birmingham. It's a 771 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: six point favorite, Evan and I are. We're taking the under. Okay, 772 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: the finale for the weekend, we have the San Antonio 773 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: Commanders at the San Diego Fleet. The Fleet favored by 774 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: one and a half a forty three point five over under. 775 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 1: And this is a rematch again of a week one game. Ian, 776 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts in terms of the rematch. 777 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 5: So Week one, san Antonio wins fifteen to six. It 778 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 5: was a six to sixth game going the fourth quarter, 779 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 5: so it definitely wasn't a blowout or anything like that. 780 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 5: But I think Santano did look like the better team 781 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 5: for most of that game, and Santonio looked like they 782 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 5: were better. I mean, they're playing better than in Orlando 783 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 5: for at least forty five minutes last week before they 784 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 5: gave up seventeen on the answer in the fourth quarter. 785 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: So a lot of good things. 786 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 5: From San Antonio, but you, I mean, their situation under 787 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 5: center now. 788 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 4: Is getting weird. 789 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: We gotta remember this is an NFL developmental league, so 790 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 5: I think these coaches are going to have different opinions 791 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 5: of what that means. Sometimes seems like Mike Riley at 792 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 5: least is under the impression that he's going to play 793 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 5: the guys that are performing the best in practice, which 794 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 5: makes sense in most positions, obviously not so much a quarterback. 795 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 5: But so during the broadcast we heard nothing about this 796 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 5: situation during the lead up, But apparently Riley decided that 797 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 5: Logan Woodside, their starter, would play two series, then Markus Williams, 798 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 5: the backup, will come in for one. They do that 799 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 5: in the first half, and then Riley would pick a 800 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 5: quarterback to finish out the game. Well, in reality, William's 801 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 5: coming in for one series look good, ran for over 802 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 5: thirty yards, and then didn't play the rest of the game. 803 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 5: They asked Riley about it after the game, and specifically, 804 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 5: Riley said, I do think Logan is our starter. But 805 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 5: then he turns around and says, Marquis made some plays. 806 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 5: I should have put him back in during the second half. 807 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: I just lost track of what was going on. Will 808 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 5: continue to do that with him, So it's going to 809 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 5: be a quarterback rotation. With that said, I kind of 810 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 5: like both these quarterbacks. I haven't seen enough of Williams 811 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 5: to have a full impression, but I do think woodsides 812 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: in the top four or five. So I'm more concerned 813 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 5: about that rotation, I think for fantasy than I am 814 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 5: for the overall. 815 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 4: I guess health of the San Antonio offense. 816 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Evan, what do you think about this matchup? 817 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 818 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: San Antonio is another team that I think that there's 819 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 3: reason to have some skepticism about. Another team that began 820 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: the season open the season with back to back home games, 821 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: drew the highest attendance in the league in both of 822 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 3: the weeks. Now we have this quarterback shuffling that Ian 823 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 3: was talking about. Marcus Williams is interesting and like he 824 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: started over Mitchell Trubisky, who was the number two overall 825 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 3: pick in the NFL draft for two seasons at North Carolina. 826 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: When he came in the game, I thought he like 827 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: injected some explosiveness into the offense. Woodside was good for 828 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: like the first quarter last week, and then really wasn't 829 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: good the rest of the way. He's just been a 830 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 3: roller coaster. I think through two weeks. San Diego looked 831 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: like they might be down there with Memphis in Atlanta 832 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: after Week one, but they clearly didn't have like a 833 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: passing game threat and their pass protection was terrible. In 834 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: the first game with Mike Bercovici, they benched him. They 835 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 3: come back with Philip Nelson. Philip Nelson isn't good, but 836 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: they acknowledged their strength. And their strength there's their running game. 837 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: They've got Ja Kwon Garden, who to me, I think 838 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: is the best running back in the league, and Terrell Watson, 839 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 3: who you know, might be one of the most talented 840 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 3: running backs in the league. And he's their number two 841 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: and he actually kind of poses a threat to Jakwon 842 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: Gardner from a daily fantasy standpoint, but he out snapped 843 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 3: Jaquon Gardner last week. He had fourteen carries for forty 844 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: nine yards. And they kind of narrowed their backfield to 845 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: two after playing a bunch of more guys than that, 846 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: And they committed to the run last week, and that 847 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: seems to clearly be their strength because their quarterbacks are 848 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 3: just liabilities. You know, They've already started two different guys 849 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: in the first two games. 850 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: And San Antonio's run defense hasn't been great. 851 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: I mean, in the first two games, they've allowed four 852 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: point nine yards per carry to the Fleet. In the 853 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 3: Apollos backs these teams played in Week one, Mike Marsh 854 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: abandoned the run. Even though Jakwan Gardner was really effective 855 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: on a per play basis, He's averaging seven yards per carry. 856 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: I think that this game kind of could could go 857 00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 2: either way. 858 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 3: I think that this San Antonio is seen by a 859 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 3: lot of people as being maybe even like a top 860 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: two or three team in the league, and to me, 861 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: like I think that they still need to prove themselves, 862 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: especially with their quarterback situation, Like it really wouldn't surprise 863 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: me if you know, we see a lot more Marquise. 864 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: Williams this week, As coach Mike Riley alluded to. 865 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: Ian, which way are you leaning in this game? 866 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 5: It is tough because in their first matchup, I mean 867 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 5: San Diego, they would run the ball really well in 868 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 5: Santonio and they have kind of had the best you know, 869 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not quite ready to say Jawon Gardner 870 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 5: is the best running back in the league, but they 871 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 5: have had the best rushing offense in the league. 872 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: And he's who's the best running back in the league? Then, 873 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: and just tell us. 874 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna say, Aaron Green is Durell Presley. 875 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 4: Let's get this one week sample south of them. 876 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: Now Justin Stockton is about to take Durell Presley's job. 877 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 878 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 5: But if we really want to talk pure talent, Aaron 879 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 5: Green and you guys know I'm right there. So anyway, yeah, 880 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 5: San Diego gets back to run the ball week two. 881 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 4: What makes sense that they keep going back to that. 882 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 5: I don't know why they would all of a sudden 883 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 5: start trying to air it out with Hope Nelson again. 884 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 5: So I get that, But at the end of the day, 885 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 5: I do think San Antonio is the better overall team here, 886 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 5: even if San Diego isn't Atlanta Memphis level BA. I 887 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 5: do think they're kind of the third worst team, and 888 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 5: I think Santano's not top five, so plus points, i'll 889 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 5: take San Antonio. But yeah, a whole lot of questions 890 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 5: about them going on the road and all that. So 891 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 5: I like the under here as well, and also in 892 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 5: conjunction with you know, rematch taking me under. 893 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll probably be the donkey and take the 894 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: Commanders as underdogs there. But yeah, I don't know. In 895 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: the end, I might just kind of stay away from 896 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: this this game in general. I don't know if I 897 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: have a really strong feel for it either way. Let's 898 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: talk a little fantasy here. Fanball. I mean, hats off 899 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: to fanball for creating contest for the daily Fantasy format 900 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: that they have quarterback, running back, wide receiver, three flex spots, 901 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: and I believe that there is a contest this week 902 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 1: hosted by Fanball that pays one thousand dollars to the winner. 903 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: I might be wrong on that though, but you know, 904 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: some good stuff going on there from the daily fantasy perspective. Evan, 905 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: do you have any kind of big picture thoughts for 906 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: what you might be doing. 907 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: Definitely trying to build around Garret Gilbert, Charles, Johnson, Stacks, 908 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 3: John Wolford. 909 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: We shot Ross Stacks. 910 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 3: I think that John wolferd to Richard Mullaney, assuming that 911 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 3: Richard Mullaney is healthy. You mentioned that he I was 912 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 3: limited early in the week with I believe in knee injury, 913 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 3: but they've used him a ton of around the red zone. 914 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: He has gotten a two point conversion target in each 915 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 3: of the first two games. Last week, he tied for 916 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: the team lead and targets. In the first game he 917 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 3: had I think five for fifty seven, five catches for 918 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 3: fifty seven yards. He's not like an appealing like you 919 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: plug him into like you know, player profiler, and you know, 920 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 3: it's like he's so slow, I mean for seven to six, 921 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: you know, coming out of. 922 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: Coming out of Stanford. 923 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 3: But a lot of slow guys have have you know, 924 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: shown something so far in this league. So and his 925 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 3: usage or in scoring position I think makes him really 926 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 3: intriguing in his price drop as well. 927 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: So I think that he's interesting, you know. 928 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 3: And I want to talk about Justin Stockton because this dude, like, 929 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 3: first of all, he's leading the league in yards per carrey. 930 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 3: He had an unbelievable run in crunch time to help 931 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 3: propel the hot Shots to a comeback win last week. 932 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 3: And I think he's a legit threat to Durell Presley. 933 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 2: And am I am I crazy here? Like I kind 934 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: of like his profile too. 935 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 3: Ran four four five coming out of Texas Tech, eighty 936 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 3: two catches at Texas Tech, getting those snaps in crunch time, 937 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: and they really. 938 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: Scaled back Presley last week. 939 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm ready to play Justin Stockton 940 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 3: in daily fantasy, but to me, like he's like a 941 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: legitimate threat to Drell Presley. 942 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Evan, I'm actually kind of with you right there 943 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: on on Stockton. I liked him a lot in college 944 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: football DFS back in the day in twenty fifteen. He 945 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: had eleven touchdowns that season was and as you mentioned, 946 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: like he is a legitimate receiver, Like he has that 947 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: capability and he does have a lot of shiftiness. So 948 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't end up taking the job, I 949 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: think he's enough of a threat as a kind of 950 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: change of pace guy who maybe gets occasional carries to 951 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: limit the upside of the back that you would really 952 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: actually want to start and hope could could be a 953 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of quote unquote workhorse. So yeah, I think Stockton 954 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: is someone who is definitely intriguing Ian. What are your 955 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: thoughts on that? And then also you know the rest 956 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: of the Daily Fantasy landscape there. 957 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Stockton looks good. 958 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 5: I'd love if they just kind of turned the backfield 959 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 5: over the Presley and Stockton. But they got missed their 960 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 5: two hundred and forty pound Tim Cook butting his head 961 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 5: into everything. I mean he came in and yeah, I 962 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 5: mean Presley didn't play well last week. It seemed like 963 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 5: after I believe he got stuffed on like a third 964 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 5: and one and then on a fourth and one, and 965 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 5: after that it did seem like a cooking cooking. Those 966 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 5: other guys were getting a bunch more run. It just 967 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 5: seemed like Presley was really was locked in as that 968 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 5: number one back in week one. I mean I thought 969 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 5: he was gonna be the only other bellcow behind Richardson. So, 970 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe we'll see a whole new dynamic this week. 971 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 5: It's definitely not a situation I'm super confident in. But 972 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 5: now Presley's a the way down at fifty four hundred. 973 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he's not even being treated as back in 974 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 5: this top tier anymore. So I'm willing to take one 975 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 5: more shot on it this week. But yeah, I'm certainly 976 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 5: not moving in the perfect direction for I think it's 977 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 5: called Durell cow Truthers, which I am a part of. 978 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: Nice. 979 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then so at quarterback, I'm at interested in 980 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 5: spending down this week. I think we got some opportunities here. 981 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 5: It's tough to find a stacking partner. So you know, 982 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 5: Josh Woodrown fifty two hundred, he's got a little running ability, 983 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 5: so wouldn't hate going there. And I just think Matt 984 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 5: Simms at fifty nine hundred to be priced over Luis 985 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 5: Perez is a complete slap in the face. And I mean, 986 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 5: I'm not saying Perez is a top two quarterback, but 987 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 5: I am saying he's much better than Matt Simms, who 988 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 5: really hasn't been good in anything his life earned having 989 00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 5: a good last name. 990 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 991 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm down to spend down at a quarterback, 992 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 5: and I think the Luis Perez Quentin Pattenstack could go 993 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 5: a little bit underground with how well Charles Johnson and 994 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 5: Sean Ross and those guys have been so looking forward 995 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 5: to it. 996 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 1: All right, So one final question here from the Daily 997 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: Fantasy perspective. Trent Richardson? Is he a must roster this week? 998 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean, like. 999 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: Cash versus GPPs? Are you fading him in GPPs to 1000 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: try to sort of distinguish what you're doing, but you're 1001 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: rostering him in cash? Like, are what are you doing 1002 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: with Trent Richardson? Because he's kind of like the one 1003 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: person that I think people are going to be looking 1004 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: at this week, and then what are you doing with him? 1005 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's just it doesn't feel right to say, 1006 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 3: but I think he's a must play. 1007 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, lock in Trent Richardson. 1008 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, He's awfully close. 1009 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 3: And hey, you know, if you think this, this Birmingham 1010 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: team can roll up on this Atlanta team. And the 1011 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 3: Birmingham's performance against Salt Lake and two was kind of 1012 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: flukey because again, they did. 1013 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 2: Really look good in week one. 1014 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 3: They've got a quarterback who, you know, we sing might 1015 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: be good, but he also could be bad. 1016 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: They've got a receiver in Quenton Patten who you. 1017 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 3: Know, had two thirty plus reception seasons in the NFL 1018 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers. They've got Trent Richardson, who 1019 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 3: we know we can count on for big time volume. 1020 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they're they're an intriguing like 1021 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: team stack against Atlanta. And then you could bring it 1022 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 3: back with Wadley, who talked about Akro wildly. He had 1023 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 3: like eight targets or something last week, and he played 1024 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 3: sixty percent of the Legends offensive snaps, which is really 1025 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 3: really rare to get a back playing sixty percent of 1026 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 3: the snaps. So I think that that would be an 1027 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: interesting like game stack. Who knows what's gonna happen in 1028 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 3: these games. I mean, as we've seen, you know, surprises 1029 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 3: from week to week. We're still learning, still very much 1030 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 3: in the learning phase with this league. 1031 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: All right, Ian roster construction perspective, What are you doing 1032 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: with Trent Richardson? 1033 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he got a lot button him. He's 1034 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 5: got a good receiving floor. That's the thing. I mean, 1035 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 5: we're not just relying on these rush attempts. He has 1036 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 5: converted ten targets in the sixty four yards. I mean, 1037 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 5: I wish they'd kind of use the more as a receiver. 1038 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 5: It's almost you know, I don't know if there's still 1039 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 5: has a ceiling for Richardson that he's capable of reaching, 1040 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 5: but it does seem to me a little bit like 1041 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 5: the kind of Todd Gurley twenty sixteen esque where not 1042 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 5: able to really get much going on the ground, but 1043 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 5: if you get him a little involved as a receiver, 1044 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 5: it can kind of help open up those other areas 1045 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 5: of the game and open up other areas of the offense. 1046 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 4: So I'd love to. 1047 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 5: See Birmingham try to do more things with him as 1048 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 5: a receiver. But kind of going back to some concerns 1049 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 5: about you know, Perez playing slow and things of that nature, 1050 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 5: I'm not totally convinced Birmingham has a good enough kind 1051 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 5: of scheme to really do that. 1052 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: But this week, yeah, I'm locking in Trent. 1053 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, one thing with Trent Richardson, people forget 1054 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: as a rookie he did have fifty receptions. That was 1055 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: a significant part of the value that he added as 1056 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: someone in the NFL. So, okay, Evan, what alliance pieces 1057 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: are you planning on doing this week? I'm assuming the 1058 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: alliance matchups. 1059 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do a full matchups come I'm almost 1060 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 3: done with it. But I also kind of want to 1061 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 3: get some injury information because you know, yesterday, like we 1062 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 3: had some you know, fairly significant injury information. Dress Anderson 1063 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 3: went on injured reserve, and we're just trying to you know, 1064 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 3: pinpoint like Larry Rose also got cut, which narrow his 1065 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: backfield from from four to three. That Tim Cook, Justin Stockton, 1066 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: Jarrelle Presley. You just feel a little bit more comfortable 1067 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 3: with those guys now that Larry Rose is out of 1068 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 3: the picture. But yeah, I mean we're just trying to 1069 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 3: figure out, like, who are some guys that can benefit 1070 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 3: from guys being out, Who are guys that you know 1071 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 3: might potentially step up. You know, we could talk about 1072 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 3: you know, matchups and you know how these defenses and 1073 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 3: offenses have performed. But it's also important to try to 1074 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 3: figure out, based on you know, based on the injury reports, 1075 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 3: what guys might get a little bit of extra volume 1076 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 3: this week, and you know we can we can capitalize 1077 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 3: on that with our daily fantasy rosters. 1078 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: All Right, and Ian, you published the Offense of Scouting 1079 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: report on Monday. Our Week three Alliance rankings are out 1080 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: at the site you contributed. I contributed Sean Corner. Of course, 1081 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: what other pieces do you have coming out this week 1082 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: at the Action Network and Fantasy Labs. 1083 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, Week three Ultimate Betting Guys should be out sometime 1084 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 5: tomorrow morning afternoon. Then I'll have a fanball specific Fantasy 1085 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 5: guide out later Thursday, early Friday at the latest. 1086 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 4: Make sure. 1087 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 5: It's tough to find injury injury information in this league, 1088 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 5: especially early in the week, but I have seen easily 1089 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 5: by Thursday Friday. You know, we are able to kind 1090 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 5: of get the practice support. So make sure to check 1091 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 5: out the Ultimate Betting guid and I'll update that up 1092 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 5: to the weekend with the most up to date injury 1093 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 5: information we have. 1094 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: All Right, that is going to do it. For this 1095 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: episode of the Action Network NFL podcast. Please rate and 1096 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: review the show in iTunes. Subscribe, unsubscribe, resubscribe. Thank you 1097 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: to Evan for being on the show. You can follow 1098 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Evan Silva. You can follow Ian 1099 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: in the Action Network app at iHeart. 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