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Speaker 1: With Alexi Napola and Marisa Patton an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wait no, dalla, what are we talking about today?

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Speaker 3: My friend?

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Speaker 2: Why ahead you?

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Speaker 3: First of all, I missed you so much. I did

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Speaker 3: on my last podcast with Peter. You know, it was

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Speaker 3: a little different because like mother and son, it was

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Speaker 3: really want to do that. It was it was, you know,

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Speaker 3: very good. Oh well, thank you? Like did you get that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know you guys were going to do

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Speaker 1: it together.

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Speaker 2: It was a great idea, it was perfect.

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Speaker 3: I know it was fun. It was fun, but I

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Speaker 3: did miss you, and I know that you were busy

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Speaker 3: renewing your vows with Miss America.

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Speaker 1: It's a very small part of the trip, and I

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Speaker 1: wish you could have been with me. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we couldn't both be away from filming the show so

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Speaker 1: or else we'd be fired.

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Speaker 3: That is true, And you did ask the permission. For

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Speaker 3: a long time ago, somebody actually wrote on my Instagram

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Speaker 3: I thought Alexi was your best friend, wasn't she. Then

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hi, put forward. I'm not even gonna answer.

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Speaker 3: That's an moment, but you know what, I asked your

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Speaker 3: agree with the fan because that is true. I feel

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Speaker 3: like I've missed all your marriages. I've been there in spirit,

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Speaker 3: but I think that that's what caused a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a like between you and I last night because

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Speaker 3: you were there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know what, I'm planning another one because

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Speaker 1: this is like my birthday. I'm going to celebrate it

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Speaker 1: every year whether anybody likes it or not, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do it.

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Speaker 3: So you do, and then that's what counts. I've never

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Speaker 3: mind doomen like does it? Don't you get nervous? Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't like that part. What I

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Speaker 3: like is the honeymoon. So while you were renewing your vowels,

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Speaker 3: I was redoing my honeymoon again with Todd, and this

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Speaker 3: time going to Lake Como and to Milano. It was hot,

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Speaker 3: it was sexy, and you know how I always say

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Speaker 3: that the sex is a lot much better when you're

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Speaker 3: like on vacation. And then, oh, yeah, you do you're

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Speaker 3: a hotel I am you. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's where the work comes from? Hotel?

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Speaker 3: It could be from now on it is going to

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Speaker 3: be working for you for me, it is anyways, Well,

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Speaker 3: tell us, tell us about it. Tell us. I think

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Speaker 3: the viewers would love to hear because I'm they're not

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Speaker 3: going to see that on the show.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know if they will

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Speaker 2: or not. I have no idea. I have I have

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Speaker 2: some video I took.

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Speaker 3: Well, the cameras weren't there, but you weren't there.

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Speaker 2: But I have video.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's up for I had records. It's not

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Speaker 3: always about the camera being there, you know, it's like

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Speaker 3: the moment, living the moment.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was what it was all about, really, because

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Speaker 1: at first they was like, why are we doing this?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, because I want to be a princess and

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Speaker 1: a castle and you're gonna just show up.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I loved your dress, Pussy bo. Yeah

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Speaker 3: it was good. Yeah it was a big one. Yeah

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Speaker 3: you could get away with all that. It looks ridiculous, but.

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Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't you have to if you slicked your

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Speaker 1: hair all back, a little thing in the middle there

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Speaker 1: and you just can't have hair.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, I feel like, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. So did I look like you're talk Coco.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying about myself, but I said, I'm you.

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Speaker 3: I think it looks so and it's so beautiful, like

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Speaker 3: you wear it so well. Thank you. You looked gorgeous

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Speaker 3: in you're find English. It was obvious.

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Speaker 1: I was in English and we had this lady. She

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Speaker 1: was Scottish. Justice of the piece. She forgot to brush

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Speaker 1: her hair. I was like, what are you wearing when

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Speaker 3: You didn't have your Glas team there to fix her

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Speaker 3: up a little bit? No, I didn't see.

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Speaker 1: And then her like dress was a little tattered and

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Speaker 1: ripped them like she couldn't wear something like I would

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Speaker 1: have just like borrowed, like I know, like I would

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Speaker 1: just wear like you know, you know those the gown

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Speaker 1: you were when you graduate, Like we're something that takes

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Speaker 1: something cup and gown like a cop and minus the cap.

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Speaker 2: But no, she forgot to brush your hair.

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Speaker 3: She had the cap. Oh no, this one says irel India.

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Speaker 3: You would have had to buy on this at Scotland, right.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to put a cap on her.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, listen, we maybe had an old castle,

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Speaker 1: but your dress doesn't have to be as old as

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Speaker 3: It was a little, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: She was lovely. She tied our hands together. I didn't

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Speaker 2: realize I said this. I was a little lit. I

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Speaker 2: looked at my friends.

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Speaker 3: There were video on me.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is so kicky.

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Speaker 4: We were kidding having our vowels on they titles, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, this is so kiky. Anyway, it was beautiful,

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Speaker 4: It was lovely, and the memories, the memories are everything,

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Speaker 4: and I just want to keep making memories.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's the best part of the trip.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. But I mean, if just for me, I

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Speaker 3: would think I would get so stressed out. And I

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Speaker 3: think so we're todd like Todd, and I don't like

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Speaker 3: that part. But yeah, I love that you love to

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Speaker 3: keep on doing this.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it again. I'm not gonna do it next year,

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Speaker 1: but maybe in two years.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we can do our next one together. I told

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Speaker 3: you we need to do it together. Yeah, maybe my

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Speaker 3: five year. You know, I'll do. But it has to

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Speaker 3: be like in a really exotic place.

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Speaker 1: No, but you can't wait that long because I'm already

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Speaker 1: gonna do it in an exotic place in two years.

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Speaker 2: You might as well just come to that want and

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Speaker 2: do it. I have to wait. What if you die?

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Speaker 3: I don't have to wait. There's no way.

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Speaker 1: Make rules in life, baby, and live and be happy.

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Speaker 1: I have a great plan for us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you set everything up, lease, I just don't want

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Speaker 3: it to be you know, stressful, you know, because way stressful. No,

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Speaker 3: take care of it. I just want to show up.

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Speaker 3: You tell me what the theme is and I'll be there.

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Speaker 3: The we knew our bells because that is very special

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Speaker 3: forward to doing that.

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Speaker 1: You know that every time I do stuff and people

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Speaker 3: Do I have it?

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Speaker 1: Everyone's going to start getting renewing vows and getting married

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Speaker 1: again and again and again, and it's cool.

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Speaker 3: Why not? All right? Well, speaking of getting married again

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Speaker 3: and engagement, how do you feel about mister Lennie. You know,

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Speaker 3: we're here now to talk about the Housewives because I

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Speaker 3: don't like to talk about my colleagues and you know,

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Speaker 3: the girls we work with, or about our show. But

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Speaker 3: I think that sometimes it's necessary. And it's not even

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Speaker 3: about the show. It's about our friend, our friend Lisa

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Speaker 3: as you know, that's going through something you know, and

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Speaker 3: just something that has to be addressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, if Lisa wasn't so vocal

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Speaker 1: about it, we wouldn't be either, but we love her.

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Speaker 2: We want to support her, and this is.

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Speaker 3: Hard and we do. I mean, I think everyone is

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Speaker 3: fact that Lenny announced his engagement and he actually posted

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Speaker 3: while Lisa was in Europe celebrating her birthday. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: the same day, but you know, we're really upset me

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Speaker 3: to Europe. Actually we're trying to see each other while

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Speaker 3: So when I I got so excited for her when

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Speaker 3: and it was such a beautiful picture. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and I know what that feeling is like because she

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Speaker 3: this son of a of your ex husband. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: I I thought to myself, just like you're saying, he's

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Speaker 1: trying to un up or whatever whatever. But he was

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Speaker 1: a plan he had. But he's been with Lisa fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: He knows when her birthday is. He knew that was

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Speaker 1: a shitty move.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. And he was also very aware that Lisa

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Speaker 2: Of course, because I have to coordinate the children and everything, right, well.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean the children. I don't think they

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Speaker 3: because you know, their kids are are home, you know,

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Speaker 3: luckily Lisa house. You know, her mom that's here, and

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Speaker 3: And so at least the kids are, you know, with them.

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Speaker 3: But again I thought it was really poor taste. You know.

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Speaker 3: Once again, you know, we know his style. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: surprise me. I mean I was surprised, but just the

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Speaker 2: And she goes along with it. The girl goes along

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Speaker 3: Be like, you know what, maybe we don't know's just embarrassed. Man,

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Speaker 3: if she would have been a woman that has any

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Speaker 3: in this relationship and this scandal. So, I mean, no,

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Speaker 3: she's she's not. You know, she's a twenty six, twenty

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Speaker 3: going for the ride. And obviously it's very apparent, just

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Speaker 3: like the whole situation how you know, how they've handled

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Speaker 3: it is just so it hurt me so much, honestly,

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Speaker 3: Like it was like it was me, you know, you

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Speaker 3: I was like, wow, how can this happening to her?

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Speaker 3: Because you know, as a woman, you know, and you think,

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Speaker 3: but why does he have to be so mean?

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Speaker 1: Why does it have to be so bad? Like why

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Speaker 1: I never liked him? I always thought it was just

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Speaker 1: not pleasant and not nice.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know a lot of the comments were like, well,

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Speaker 3: you're not even divorced yet, Like how can you ask

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Speaker 3: you know, you can get engaged, you know, so there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know at this point if they're

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Speaker 2: It's an ugly divorce and it will continue to be

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean, I'm actually very happy for Lisa that

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Speaker 2: We're very good at sharing, aren't we?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you think it's knew insane? I'm not

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Speaker 3: Would you be okay with that?

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Speaker 1: I'd be extremely devastated and upset. But what choice does

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Speaker 3: Because my girlfriends, of course, these young girls that of

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Speaker 1: Throws are hustlers. Brow the hustlers. The two of them

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Speaker 2: Well, she works with him, they work together.

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Speaker 3: Well we're talking about let you have.

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Speaker 2: They work together. And that happens all the time. That

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Speaker 1: She she had been out of town, Shakira, and she

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Speaker 3: The baby twenty four year old was any strawberry jam

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Speaker 3: When you're in this situation, it's very easy to look

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Speaker 3: Oh right. The thing is that who's going to think

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Speaker 1: Allegedly, people in their inner circle said they had an

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Speaker 3: relao and you could do whatever you want, and he

437
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 3: does whatever he wants. But you know what the truth is,

438
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 3: and nobody lives in your house, and nobody is inside,

439
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 3: you know, inside your bedroom and inside your head, and

440
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 3: then the conversations between you and your partner, and you

441
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 3: don't know that people are going to assume. Okay, and

442
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 3: what is an open relationship?

443
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 2: He said it?

444
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: He said it, and I guess someone in his camp

445
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, like on his side, also confirmed that

446
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: that was that.

447
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 3: But I don't know, well, speaking of that, I think

448
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 3: that that. Lenny's mistress also said some comment or alluded

449
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 3: to something like that in one of her comments, saying

450
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 3: that they have an open relationship and that he, sir,

451
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 3: do like whatever she wants. Yeah, exactly? Is that like

452
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 3: a code word for like you can cheat or you

453
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 3: have a free pass? I mean, what is that? Or

454
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 3: any relationship is that you can be with other girls

455
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 3: and I could be with other guys, or I can

456
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 3: be with other girls and you could be with it.

457
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 3: I mean, what is it? So you know, it's very

458
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 3: easy to say that.

459
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 1: I think it's an excuse and everyone's using no, no,

460
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: we were open, so we could do whatever we wanted.

461
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't cheating. She shouldn't be devastated. It's not a big deal.

462
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: I've been telling you for two years she knew and

463
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 3: this and that, because that's that's what they say. And

464
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 3: then again it's like how much you know? How much

465
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 3: information do we have? And you know not everything you

466
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: read is the truth? I mean, lead them who were

467
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 3: going to know? But I felt like that was a

468
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: very easy to say, Oh, we had an open relationship,

469
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 3: so it's like she knew, So that's it's just kind

470
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: of like for him not to look so bad because

471
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't strike me as Shakira being the woman that

472
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: she's going to be in an open relationship. I mean, no,

473
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 3: say you know, I mean because you never really know,

474
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: you know at the end.

475
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 2: But I've never heard rumblings about anything about her except

476
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: that she's super professional, she's amazing, Like I've never heard

477
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: anything bad about her, like even like.

478
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 3: What are the benefits of being an open relationship, because

479
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 3: that's the other thing. But yeah, but I also like,

480
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: you don't.

481
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: Get especially especially in the public eye, who does that,

482
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: Like you know you're going to get busted and it's

483
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: gonna come up.

484
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: Those open relationships that mean, I'm very closed because you

485
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: know what happens, somebody gets screwed, and in this case

486
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: it was Shakira. Okay, I'm so open. I'm so open.

487
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: I tried the other one and I liked her, so now.

488
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: You're fall in love.

489
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: That's what happens relationships, simple means.

490
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 1: But there I say, do not put a pineapple on

491
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 1: your front doorstep?

492
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean. And the other thing is is like,

493
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: and we've discussed this before about you know, your friendships

494
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: and your your and your friend group and your couple group,

495
00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 3: like who you go out with. That's the other thing

496
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: besides work that we said that a lot of the

497
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: cheating starts, you know, in your in your workplace, also

498
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: in your friend group. You know, you go out of

499
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: couples ye re Lajo and your sob friends and you

500
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like this friendship turns into that,

501
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: you know many times.

502
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: That's what's happening now with Ariana ground Arianna Grande.

503
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never liked her. I've never liked something about

504
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: her that I've never liked her. Even her music, Yeah,

505
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 3: she has good vocals whatever, but okay make malacha. Yeah. So,

506
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: according to The Daily Mail, Arianna Grande and her now

507
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: a Strange husband Dalton Gomez allegedly went on Sev's with

508
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: her now boyfriend Ethan Slater and he's now a strange

509
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 3: wife Lily J sources say Arianna and Ethan we're so

510
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: obvious about the relationship. If their Wicked castmates knew about

511
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: the relationship. Since the news of the romance came out,

512
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: Ethan felt for divorce from his wife. Lily directly told

513
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: Page six, Arianna's the story. Really, she's not a girl's girl.

514
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: My family is damaged. She also added that she's focusing

515
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: on raising her and Slater's baby and being a good mom.

516
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: And the guy looks at her brother, did you say, yes?

517
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: They look alike.

518
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: She's never had she's never been known for having good

519
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: taste because she's gone out with what Sean big? Sean?

520
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: What was the other one that? Oh, Pete Davidson, I mean.

521
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: Her guys big? Who's big?

522
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. Look him up, I don't know. I've

523
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: heard of him. I forgot what he looks like, but

524
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 3: nothing I want to look like fail all the.

525
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: Guys that she heayd David's is a little cute and

526
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on with him. That

527
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: everybody has something that's people right from the white down

528
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: cut it.

529
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: But I can imagine that's the only.

530
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: Cute thing he has in his body, because not even

531
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: his tattoos are cute. Tell them, oh my god.

532
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: It's magic wand it's all the ladies.

533
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: I guess you must have something, but don't want to.

534
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: He's got a wizard one again.

535
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: This is again everything we're talking about. It's like lo tempo.

536
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: Maybe like I'm not going to say that this has

537
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: never exist because obviously cheating and everything has happened since

538
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: you know, humans are you know, we're born and started.

539
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to say is that now everybody

540
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 3: finds out about it, you just can't get away with it.

541
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: So I guess before kind of like they make it public.

542
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: They make it public because that's what they did, are

543
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: before anybody else outs them. Uh huh yeah, So I

544
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: guess that's kind of smart. But do you think do

545
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 3: you think she I see that she has a pattern?

546
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: You know, in Ariana's case, she's always gone out with

547
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: guys that are not available, what the hell, and not

548
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: necessarily whether they're married or not, but when men are

549
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: in relationships you need to respect that. And it's kind

550
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 3: of like that's what she goes for. She has a pattern.

551
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Nothing's ever going to work because she wants the thrill

552
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: of the kale and then once you get it, there's

553
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: nothing left. You're bored and it's onto the next one.

554
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: So ladies, hold on to your men or your girlfriends

555
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: because Ariana's on the list.

556
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: Speaking of that, like, so do you think that women

557
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: they go after men that are not available, like for example,

558
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: Lenny's mistress that went after Lenny that was a married

559
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: man Clara that went after Pique, which was in a

560
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: relationship and she was aware of it, and Arianna going

561
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: after Ethan knowing that he was married, and you know,

562
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: with the baby.

563
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 5: Do you think there's a special place in hell for them?

564
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 5: I'm being oh, for sure. But do you think that

565
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 5: these women are breaking up the family or do you

566
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 5: think that there was already like trouble. I think it's

567
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 5: like they're mens trade now. I think that it's a challenge.

568
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, they're yeah, they want.

569
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: To I've because some people are a little messed up

570
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: and they need attention, they need to win. They just

571
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: we're all we're all wired so differently. We're all messed

572
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: up in our own unique and special way. And you know,

573
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: do you blame just like it or do.

574
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: You blame the guy like for example, like the guy

575
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: or the girl. You think they're both they're both equally responsible.

576
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: They're both equally responsible.

577
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: I feel so too.

578
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you have a pattern,

579
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: if that happens to you once, fine, you fell in

580
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: love and you took you know, you've got in this

581
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: situation and both of you decided you don't want to

582
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: be with who you're with and your together. But if

583
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: you're serial breaking up marriages, which we kind of heard

584
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: some of that from Lisa about Lenny's girlfriend too, that

585
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: she was involved with some other married men married.

586
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have a pattern. They need to married

587
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: married men might be easier, that might feel like an

588
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: easier target.

589
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: There may be an easier target to loure into the sound. Yeah,

590
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: but you know, to win over in the end, and

591
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: and and you know, get their family, get.

592
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: These men to divorce the women and marry them right

593
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: away or like get engaged. That's crazy, you know.

594
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: You know, so I think there's an idiot born every minute.

595
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that. So in this case,

596
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: for example, Arianna and Ethan were both married.

597
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: So in this case, this high school sweetheart, right and

598
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: they just had a baby, so they've been.

599
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: Between the four of them would go out together as doubles.

600
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: So and then you know they got to that's pretty twisted.

601
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: I mean it happens a lot. Like I said, it's

602
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: where you see it. I mean, that's gonna happen more

603
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: because you have more contact with the person, so you

604
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: know whether you like them or not, you know, just

605
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: like a work, so you know more all of the story,

606
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: be careful who you go out with, and be careful

607
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: where you work, because you know that I see Steve

608
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: as a brother, and I know that you see God

609
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: as a brother too, and I know that that's never

610
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: gonna no, no, never, it's never gonna happen. But with

611
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: some other girls in the group and friends that stay away.

612
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hell yeah.

613
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: But you know what in my group, Steve's like zero

614
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: interest in anybody in our group.

615
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: Oh I know, and saying, but what I'm saying is

616
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: get like by the time that you get to our age,

617
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's like we've just seen

618
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: it all. We've been it, We've lived so much, We've

619
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: had so many like life experiences in Mason Cuento like

620
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: they're not right now, I mean not in Masim going.

621
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's like Meloya said, which is a different story, right,

622
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: but you know you have to keep your eyes open,

623
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: my friend, and be careful who And this is like

624
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: what I try to tell like the younger people, but

625
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: they have to go through it themselves because me just

626
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: like by looking at somebody, I'm like an X ray

627
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: of them. I can tell you exactly how that's going

628
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: to end up.

629
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Miami is a breeding ground of just oh my.

630
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: God, they're just like everyone's so hungry of someone to

631
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: take it. And the thing is like they don't even

632
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: know why they want your guy. They just, you know

633
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: what I mean, they don't even know your guy. Like,

634
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: for all they know that you could be the biggest asslehole,

635
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 3: but they they just want your guy because you have

636
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: because you have a certain lifestyle. Lifestyle.

637
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want your lifetime. I want your asshole, right.

638
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: But I remember coming over and Lisa when she said

639
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: the news about Lenny. I was like, I took it

640
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: like it was mine, like you know what I mean,

641
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: like it was him doing it to me. Yeah, Oh

642
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: you know what, No, this is the best thing that

643
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: happened to her. And I feel like a lot of times,

644
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, at least, I mean, I don't know this.

645
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: I can't speak for other women, but and I guess

646
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: as they're going through it, you know, I'm sure like

647
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: when Shakira was going through it, it was like horrible

648
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: for her and she didn't wish that and all that.

649
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: But now that she's on the other side, she's like,

650
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: oh wow, yeah, you know, and she's like, Okay, I

651
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: didn't sometimes you get so caught in the middle of

652
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: it that you don't even realize it. But after you're like,

653
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: oh shit, like this was actually good for me. Obviously,

654
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: it's not good when you're going through because it's painful,

655
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: but you know, after all that pain, you know, then

656
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: you know there's there's pleasure and she's having a lot

657
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: of fun, and so of these women that have gone

658
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: through it.

659
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Lisa is very very lucky that

660
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: in a town like Miami that is very hard to

661
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: find somebody that she found somebody that's been through rough

662
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: times with her, because it's not easy.

663
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: You know, this has been hard for her.

664
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: She talks about demonstrated, he's really demonstrated to her that

665
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: he cares for her and he loves her.

666
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: He listens, he's patient because they're they're in the thick

667
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: of it and it's not an easy divorce like we

668
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: read it in the news. Imagine what goes on at

669
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: home behind closed doors. The conversations have to happen and

670
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: happen and constantly talk about it and talk about it,

671
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: and he's still there.

672
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: So she's very lucky, very lucky.

673
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: She has that as a loving, sweet person and she

674
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: deserves to be happy. And you know, sometimes when you're

675
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: in these toxic relationships, you know, you don't even realize

676
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 3: that that there's something better that you're in it, and

677
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: that's not supposed to be like that, Like there's you know,

678
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: it's not okay, like you do not have to get

679
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: up with those things that's not okay perpect. She's a

680
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: good man now and she's you know, seeing you know,

681
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: something different and you know she's in a real relationship

682
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: with somebody that's you know, that cares for her, entreats

683
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: her with respect. Yes, and you know it's she already won. Yeah.

684
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: I had a very bad relationship, and every day that

685
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I wake up next to see him, I'm like, thank god.

686
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 1: And I thought I wasn't going to be able to

687
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: ever find anybody like that person I was with. But

688
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't realize how toxic it was

689
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: when I was in it. Like I knew it was bad,

690
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: but I thought, Okay, relationships are hard.

691
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: You got to make it work. You gotta make it work.

692
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: But it was really bad. And now that I'm with

693
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: a normal, nice, saying, calm human being, he's very normal exactly,

694
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow.

695
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: Well, mine I've never been normal because I like crazy,

696
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: but I've been very blessed, you know that even though

697
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: they've had different things, but they've always been good.

698
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 2: Good people.

699
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what I like. I'm attracted to good people.

700
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: You can have whatever they're fake thos or you know,

701
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: whatever side, or you have secrets or whatever they may be.

702
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: But they never harmed me. So with that being said,

703
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: you know, I'm very you know, I'm very no, I'm

704
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: very lucky because I see it the same way. You know,

705
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: even though they didn't work, but you know, there there

706
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: were good people and and and and it was you know,

707
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: a good you know relationship for me, because a relationship

708
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: there has to be love and respect. Because if Lenny

709
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: would have had any love or respect or p K

710
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: for Shakira, Lenny, for for Lisa and many other men

711
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: that don't know for women, they would have never acted

712
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: the way that they have with their spouses and with

713
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: the partners. So to me, that's like the end, because

714
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: to me, love is everything, and when when you love

715
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: a person, you.

716
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Can fall out of love, but they handled things poorly.

717
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: You can fall out of love, but you can never forget.

718
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: You can never forget that there was love, and I'm

719
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: like that kind of woman, like I like to focus

720
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: on the good and and in every relationship there's good.

721
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean there's bad also, but like focus on the good,

722
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: especially when you have kids. It's like I have you know,

723
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: you have these two beautiful kids. I mean, okay, fine,

724
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: we didn't get along. We can we don't have to

725
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: be again. And that's why there's divorced. But the way

726
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: you handle things afterwards says a lot. And these two

727
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: men that were talking about to me have shown zero

728
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: love and respect for themselves either or for their families.

729
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: So I have no respect for any of them, truthfully.

730
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: Have you been reading about Lizzo and how she denies

731
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 3: allegations in her former dancers lawsuit. Three dancers have accused

732
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: the Grammy winning singer of creating a hostile work environment

733
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: during the Grammy winning Singer's Special tour. The law who

734
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: filed in an LA Superior Court, claims that the dancers

735
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: were exposed to an environment of sexual harassment and weight shain.

736
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: In one legend incident, a dancer claims Lizzo wanted to

737
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: know why the dancer had gained weight. In another alleged incident,

738
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: the dancers say Lizzo made them touch nut performers in

739
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 3: a club in Amsterdam. Lizzo says she never sexually harassed

740
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: the dancers, and as a victim of weight shaming herself,

741
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: she would never do it to someone else now, Lizzo

742
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: responded on her social media and this is why I

743
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: hate social media. I mean, it's so powerful, but you

744
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: can write and say whatever you want. I mean, this

745
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: is all everything is like so public, like the entire

746
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: world knows about it, and truthfully, we really don't have

747
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: all the information. We can read one article on that thing.

748
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: This is why magazines and publicists are out of business,

749
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: of course.

750
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this is just crazy. This is like every second.

751
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: So usually this is what Lizzo responded on her social media.

752
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: Usually I choose not to respond to false allegations. But

753
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: these are as unbelievable as they sound, and two outrageous

754
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 3: to not be addressed. These sensationalized stories are coming from

755
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: former employees who have already publicly admitted that they were

756
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: told their behavior on tour was inappropriate and unprofessional. Lizo

757
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: was essentially saying that the dancers are disgruntled former employees

758
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: who were terminated. Do you think a male performer would

759
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: be able to use that defense. Um, listen, Okay, first

760
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: of all, let's take it back because there's like a

761
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: lot of information. Yeah, okay, Like what are your thoughts

762
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: on that? Like, what do you think do you think

763
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: of Lizo? I mean data, what do you think?

764
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: The minute I saw it in the news, I was like, hmm, I.

765
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: Believe these stories.

766
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: I believe them.

767
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: Oh you do. I don't. I believe them, and I

768
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: there's fire, I mean, there could be something, But Marisol,

769
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: we're living and own these times that anybody can go

770
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: out and make these allegations and accuse people of everything. Okay,

771
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's all day long, you know, you know

772
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: what they do it to Lizzo? I mean, are they

773
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: going to do it to you know, to like the pool,

774
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: to the pool guy that like came to your house

775
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: and cleaned your pool. Then nobody knows. Nobody's going to

776
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: accuse him of doing anything but somebody like Lizzo, you know,

777
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: somebody like Well, but no one's.

778
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: Going to hear about it because we're not they're not famous. Well.

779
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: I read up a lot about it, and there were

780
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: actually quite a few people that had worked with her

781
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: over the years that had similar complaints.

782
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: Okay, which wasn't the fact that she's rude and that

783
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: she mistreats people and she's full of herself and she's.

784
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: A da going to tell you that she had an

785
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 6: Oscar nominated filmmaker working on a documentary of hers and

786
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 6: she quit because she said she was arrogant, self centered,

787
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 6: unkind bullied her and wasn't.

788
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: The girls on our show and many people that we know,

789
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: not me, you know what, but it's true, And you

790
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 3: know what, but I don't care. I'll get another job.

791
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: You just can't make, you know, a lawsuit against somebody

792
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: because they thought she was rude in this and that

793
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: and the other. That's what there was.

794
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: But you can't have all of a sudden, all these

795
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 2: other people are saying the same thing.

796
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: And by the way, I went to that Banana show

797
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: on Amsterdam, and I know exactly what they were talking about.

798
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: Let's start from that. Okay, the show in Amsterdam. First

799
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: of all, Lizzo had a very poor decision when she

800
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: decided that she was gonna go with her employees to

801
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: a sex club. That's rule number one that you don't

802
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: do because you're not gonna.

803
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Go well, there you go, she doesn't have good.

804
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: A young girl, she doesn't have good judgment. Claudo Gano.

805
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: I don't know where her manager was and where her

806
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: other people.

807
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: You know, she's making people fondle titties and they're.

808
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: What makes anybody do because afraid. Oh yeah, right, Oh

809
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: that's a good one.

810
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: She's afraid.

811
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Really, you know, Liza would have respected her

812
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: more if she would have said she.

813
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: Was chanting a song and bullied her into doing and

814
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, I don't lose my job.

815
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go do it.

816
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: She wanted to touch it, you know, she wanted over. Yes,

817
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: those days are over. First of all, I feel bad

818
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: for Lizzle because she had a moment of bad judgment.

819
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: She should have had a manager there. She should have

820
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: had a team of people telling her.

821
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: You know what, maybe great, maybe her team caddles her

822
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: and lets her do whatever she wants.

823
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: And you know what, after everybody had fun at the

824
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: banana show, touching bananas and touching everything. You know what,

825
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: I'm like a different kind of breed. You know, I

826
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: don't like kiss and I mean I don't you know,

827
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: It's like I grew up in a different time. It

828
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: was like not everything was a lawsuit, Marisol. It's like here,

829
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: it's like if you go with your employee. That's why

830
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: again I'm saying, like Lizo messed up by taking her

831
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: employees or you know, or being part of this because

832
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: you don't go with your employees there because you know

833
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: what your employees are going to use it against you.

834
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: Listen to listen.

835
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: Not everybody's nice, and maybe she's all about empowering people,

836
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: but she's just breaking people down behind when she's not

837
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, on camera on a stage and giving her

838
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: beautiful speeches behind the scenes, she's not a good process.

839
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: If you don't like your boss, you quit or you

840
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: find your another job. You're not going to sue your

841
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: boss for being mean to you. What is that?

842
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: You know what?

843
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: We have those options. Not everybody has the option to

844
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: quit a job, Alexia. Some people really really need the

845
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: money cannot quit a job. They just don't have that luxury.

846
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: Marasol, this sounds I don't have all the information, but

847
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: I'm just tired of just people taking advantage of celebrities,

848
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: taking advantage of you know, people that are well known,

849
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: of public figures. Just what do they want? You know

850
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: what they want. They don't want a better work environment.

851
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: They want money. That's what they want. They want money,

852
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: And I don't I have a problem with that. If

853
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: you're really trying to make the work environment better, then

854
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, kudos to you, and I support that.

855
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: Listen, I was. I wasn't.

856
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: I wasn't. You know, don't go with your boss after

857
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: a concert because you guys, you know, had a great

858
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 3: time and go party with your boss.

859
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: To be with me and you'll want you to keep

860
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: me company. Who knows? Who knows what the situation was,

861
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: and they felt like I have to go. It was

862
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: under duress, you.

863
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: Know, they want to keep their jobs. You know what

864
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: I saw what's happening in this country.

865
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: I saw this video. Hap let me tell you something.

866
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: I saw a video of the three dancers and they

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Speaker 1: were they were doing a live interview. Those girls were broken.

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Speaker 1: Their little souls look broken. I saw it in their faces.

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Speaker 1: That's they walked.

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Speaker 3: In there and another good actresses, but not that answer.

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Speaker 3: Not actresses. Yeah whatever, It's kind of like the same

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Speaker 3: thing because you're performing when you're on stage. So my

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Speaker 3: thing is this, were they all over age? I don't

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Speaker 3: know what were their ages. Let's stop buy that. I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they look like they're in the twenties.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so they're over age. And by the way, when

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Speaker 3: somebody feels uncomfortable, and these are all women, like you said,

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Speaker 3: it's not like they were thirteen or fourteen years old. Now,

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Speaker 3: these are all in their twenties that are traveling the

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Speaker 3: world and have been doing this for years already probably.

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Speaker 2: And they don't want to lose their gig.

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Speaker 3: Nobody. I'm telling you is if they walk into the

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Speaker 3: bananas and to the section and they're not they don't

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Speaker 3: want to be part of it. Oh they meet excuses,

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Speaker 3: you can say, because I've been in situations in my

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Speaker 3: life that have not liked and I have failed, and

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Speaker 3: I've said, you know what, I don't want to be here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. They're women that nobody like me.

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Speaker 2: I've always stod my grands and you know, to lose

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Speaker 2: their job.

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Speaker 3: I see, uh huh. They were afraid to lose their job.

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Speaker 3: So then what they're going to do now, go tell

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Speaker 3: and lizzle.

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Speaker 2: I follow, Well, that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Her former creative director also came for He said he

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Speaker 1: was proud of the dancers that he had the same abuse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a trail of people.

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Speaker 3: Abuse, But what kind of abuse are you changing? What

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Speaker 3: kind of abuse?

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Speaker 1: They're saying that she's unkind and she bullies and she's

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Speaker 1: a narcissist.

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Speaker 3: Okay, please, that's that's the word of the day. That's

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Speaker 3: the word of the year. The narcissist. Lenny's a narcissist.

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Speaker 3: All the men are narcissists. Now, narcissist. Actually he is,

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Speaker 3: but I'm saying Lenny is, but I had never heard.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like the words now that everybody

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Speaker 3: is overusing is gas lighting. They were gaslighting, she was

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Speaker 3: gaslighting me. He's a narcissist. It's like people are just

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Speaker 3: throwing out all these words out there just to make

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Speaker 3: it seem and they don't even know what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: I mean that this doesn't happen that often, so I

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Speaker 2: mean when they're smoking their spine.

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Speaker 3: Are happening every second that we're talking about. The part

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Speaker 3: that I think is bad is what I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: where Lizzo had bad judgment and going putting herself in

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Speaker 3: that position, right, she should have her and her team

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Speaker 3: better judgment than to put and go take your employees

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Speaker 3: to that kind of a setting, an environment they didn't

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Speaker 3: have to go because if right now, the girls at

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Speaker 3: the beauty bar, I want to take them out for drinks,

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Speaker 3: like they don't have to go, but you think they're

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Speaker 3: gonna lose their job if they don't go with me

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Speaker 3: to a sex club or to.

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Speaker 1: You're traveling, you're on tour. There's a camaraderie. It's a

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Speaker 1: different thing, you know what I mean. Who knows the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing she would say. Who knows the kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff she was saying. Apparently she was abusive and

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Speaker 1: they were scared. They want they didn't want to lose

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Speaker 1: their job. Until everybody just kind of like was.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's their story and they're going to

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Speaker 3: stick to it.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna create it. We're gonna create

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Speaker 1: a disagree on this one. I love talking with you, bro,

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. And like usual, I'm gonna leave

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Speaker 1: this podcast and pick up my phone and call you

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Speaker 1: because has to get chief Miando, because we always have

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Speaker 1: so much to say.

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Speaker 3: All these topics today, all these topics today had a

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Speaker 3: lot of those eye forward moments. It was soye bull forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I could just be saying I pull forward throughout the

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Speaker 3: whole podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's our automatic response for everything. It was so much fun,

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Speaker 1: go so fast.

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Speaker 2: That's why I have to call you so we keep

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Speaker 2: doing it. I love you.

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Speaker 3: Bye, guys, Thank you for listening. Thanks for listening.

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