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Speaker 1: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort

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Speaker 1: a lifetime. These grid Iron heroes are used to leading

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Speaker 1: their teams on the field, but can they outplay, outlast,

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Speaker 2: You ain't anything.

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Speaker 1: You have the guy who's died to We find a

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Speaker 1: way to win the No matter what. The stakes are

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Speaker 1: high and the competition is fierce. Only one can claim

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Speaker 1: the title of the ultimate survivor. Who will rise to

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Speaker 3: They wrote me off.

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Speaker 4: I ain't right back though, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: This is Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 2: It's time season finale.

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Speaker 3: Let it be known.

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Speaker 2: Season two. Thank you you guy to Randy Chavez, the pipes,

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Speaker 2: the vision. Thank you to Geno Smith. Unfortunately that's the

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Speaker 2: last time he will be brought up on this show.

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Speaker 2: But a guy who finished the season last year on QBLL.

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Speaker 2: This Wow what we've all been leading towards.

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Speaker 4: Truly. Watching Jordan light up during that intro, She's so happy.

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Speaker 5: I love that this brings you so much joy, because

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Speaker 5: that it brings me joy, just because it's contagious.

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Speaker 6: This is like one of my favorite things that I

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Speaker 4: Jordan, Are you okay?

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Speaker 7: However you will.

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Speaker 2: It's been great. It's becoming a part of the culture.

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Speaker 2: I know you guys have been getting some comments oh

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Speaker 2: on TikTok and but I saw this on on Twitter

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Speaker 2: where he said that Baker Mayfield belongs on mid Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 2: But it just means that it's it's getting into the

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do Channel Islands version.

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Speaker 3: No, no, We're gonna call the keys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay. So for people who don't know, Quarterback

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Speaker 2: Island is when we decide and determine who are the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks that are defining the position in a given season.

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Speaker 2: And yes, this is the last time we plan to

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Speaker 3: Well but we'll never know, you never know, we say

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Speaker 3: the season. But we do break this up into segments.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think.

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Speaker 3: It's crucial coming down the stretch.

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Speaker 7: Okay, important context.

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Speaker 6: We do it every four ish games, a little bit

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Speaker 2: It's the one that goes down in history as the ones.

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Speaker 4: After, like playoffs or anything. We don't get a playoff edition.

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Speaker 2: It's unfair.

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Speaker 7: We did last year, probably won't be happening this year.

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Speaker 2: We Future Co would be taking care of that. We

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Speaker 2: start this episode. The ten men who finished last time out,

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Speaker 2: which is about week twelve, Week eleven, Josh Allen, Patrick

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Speaker 3: Them more than one.

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Speaker 2: We're taking two more people out there. I did I

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Speaker 7: This is a double reduction.

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Speaker 8: Here's my thing. But because of the Estuary rule, the

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The reduction should come.

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Speaker 2: Easy because there's well, there's different people that are on

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Speaker 2: So I think we can all just agree that May

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Speaker 2: on this edition of QB Island. Welcome to Patrick Claybond

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Speaker 3: Room, who are a man, Hey, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Who constructed a mathematical formula to determine who is in

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Speaker 9: Hey, First and foremost thanks to all the Quarterback Island

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Speaker 9: viewers and listeners for facilitating my addition to this tent pole,

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Speaker 9: which we enjoy tenpoles around here because it keeps the

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Speaker 3: I would liked.

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Speaker 9: What I hoped to do was facilitate a farcical conversation

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Speaker 9: surrounding the farcical conversation that is the Most Valuable Player

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Speaker 3: Based it could be so.

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Speaker 9: Over the course of the season, I assigned points for

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Speaker 9: And the spreadsheet has Brazil revealed the results here after

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Speaker 9: Week seventeen, Drake May has eighty seven points after a

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Speaker 9: Miles Garrett. But the conversation scoring, which again is not

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Speaker 9: my attempt to highlight who I believe should be the MVP,

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Speaker 9: and yet it's Drake.

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Speaker 2: May and yet Patrick. It is really funny because you

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Speaker 2: made this conversation all about how it's all vibes based, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's really because what I've been saying all season

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Speaker 9: In which it seems like a silly way to facilitate

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Speaker 3: Out three weeks at the end, thank you much.

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Speaker 9: In the same way that a lot of teams who

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Speaker 4: Not just similar to Quarterback Island, I.

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Speaker 9: Quarterback Island has introspection and you guys are aware of

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Speaker 9: the task that's at hand. I think you know not

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna stand up for sports writers and say this

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Speaker 6: In my brain, my mind is kind of blown here, Patrick,

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Speaker 6: It's not myopic, she did, but we've we've come full

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Speaker 2: you would suggest otherwise, because if if Matthew Stafford had

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Speaker 2: of picking off whatever. They both had great seasons. It's

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Speaker 8: Crazy because he still did not play well in that game,

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Speaker 9: And it's interesting, Greg that you bring up a week

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Speaker 3: It's really weird that a bad night in Atlanta seems

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Speaker 2: And it's one thing that I feel like I helped

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Speaker 2: it's literally the only reason why Josh Allen won MVP

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Speaker 3: Not this guy. Well, you're right here. And here's the

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Speaker 8: And Jordan will absolutely agree with me on this, Like

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Speaker 2: It's not in timetime either.

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Speaker 5: Got to count for Drake May then too going up

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Speaker 3: But it was just so no, the Jets count, like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, now right now, thank you Patrick for creating

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Speaker 2: our week eighteen previous show. He's a big part of that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Two fantastic seasons by two uh young and old legends. Okay,

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Speaker 2: don't think it's that crazy. I think Josh Allen is

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Speaker 2: I think Justin Herbert doesn't really need to be discussed.

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Speaker 2: But let me hear what you think. Okay, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that was you.

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Speaker 7: Got a bunch of tape dogs in here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was? That was? That was kind of the

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Speaker 2: classic Justin Herbert game against the Texans where if you

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Speaker 8: Is because he got heated up and that's happened over

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Speaker 2: And then I'm willing to have a conversation. But to me,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott has been consistent enough and everything that I

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Speaker 3: No argument.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, we're all voting produced it.

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Speaker 3: Two more players, not that we're keeping.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we have five guys that I think are lockdown.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I saw Dak. I saw some quarterback rankings.

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Speaker 2: athletic It was Jeff Howe. He had Dak Prescott ninth,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just thinking, yeah, he's.

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Speaker 3: Watching, he's watching numbers, he's watching formulas, and.

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Speaker 2: Come on, the formulas are great for Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and watching.

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Speaker 2: And I think Dak Prescott's feelings were a little hurt

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Speaker 2: to see real ball back with Philip Rivers, you know,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. Bro, that's our generations? Poor Man's Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 4: Here we go so what are we doing about the injuries?

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Speaker 2: Now it gets more interesting. Okay, we have five people

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well Jordan rolls Patrick Mahomes off the island.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick, he's out.

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Speaker 6: He's injured. And and I will say there's been, there's been.

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Speaker 6: I've been following the quarterback island debate a lot of times.

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Speaker 6: I get either tagnant or scent it and I love it.

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Speaker 6: By the way, keep that up. That's awesome. I love

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Speaker 6: But you could we could have had the conversation.

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Speaker 2: There is there is like some wig room with the

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Speaker 2: injury stuff. We left Lamar Jackson on. Controversially, last time around,

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Speaker 2: Iatrick Mahomes was having an MVP caliber season, Like I

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Speaker 6: Also, we left Lamarn understanding there was maybe a week

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Speaker 7: This is the end of it.

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Speaker 2: But I just mean, if this is the end.

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Speaker 6: Of the year Quarterback Island, he's not coming back this season,

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Speaker 6: and he was kind of on the fringe before that.

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Speaker 6: He is a quarterback who defines a generation. Absolutely, but

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Speaker 6: for the purposes of this episode of Quarterback Island, he

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Speaker 4: So Patrick Mahomes is off the island.

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Speaker 2: Well, we got to vote, Daniel Jones, let's vote on

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Speaker 3: No, he's off the island.

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Speaker 2: I vote no. I didn't think the second part of

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Speaker 2: what you said, in terms of him being borderline, was

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Speaker 2: MVP caliber. Let's say he was kind of like Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 2: I think that would be a conversation. But yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: He was playing some of the worst football in his

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Speaker 8: Of his career was a high standard, but he still

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, so let's not just look at the passing number.

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Speaker 2: He was still playing at a high level. Okay, you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Daniel Jones. I know this hurts, but yes, that's

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Speaker 5: I'm so sad for the whole situation in Indy. I

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Speaker 5: saw your thank you with Carly, thank you so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: everyone should check it out.

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Speaker 2: Her say Gordon at the Athletics.

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Speaker 6: Yes, wrote a profile, fretted a lot over it. Honored

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Speaker 7: It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: We might hit a little more on the previous show.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it's a good time for it. When

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Speaker 2: we're talking Colts. It's it will be remembered though that

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Speaker 8: So well, which which goes counter to the argument Patrick has

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Speaker 8: made the first ten games of the year to dope.

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Speaker 2: Bad matter, but it matters to us. Okay, So there

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold and Jordan Love that we haven't talked about Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Love's gotta go? WHOA tell us why gotta go?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think he's been great. You know me,

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Speaker 8: I've always been on the fence with Jordan Love. He's

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Speaker 8: that's that guy. Okay, then he gets crushed a couple

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Speaker 8: When I look at some of the other people that

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Speaker 8: we can get to them later. But that's more of

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Speaker 8: my argument. We could talk about the arm strength, We

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Speaker 8: to eight, Greg and he wears number ten, I don't

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Speaker 2: I I want to table him for now because I

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Speaker 2: Where I would push back on you would be the

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Speaker 2: moments that make you say wow, that bears game. To

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Speaker 6: Okay, I think he had a fair to table him.

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Speaker 6: I think there are two truths in both of these

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Speaker 6: out and see Malik Willis playing the way that he

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Speaker 6: the ceilings for Jordan Love are higher than almost any

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Speaker 2: Big eye roll here from White.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's because the guys wasn't on them, so I

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Speaker 2: Tell the audience. It's like the audio medium.

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Speaker 3: Not saying that.

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Speaker 8: But for the guys, the guys I think we should

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Speaker 3: Their ceilings are higher.

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Speaker 8: Okay, that's why I mean again, I hate not hating,

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Speaker 6: of the magic of Quarterback Island is that we're not

442
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Speaker 6: We're not taking these like really uh like antagonistic positions

443
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 6: about these players. This is a fun place to discuss

444
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 6: all of it and the range of opinions, and that's

445
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 6: what I love it.

446
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Speaker 7: We're not ranking them, Greg Let's I.

447
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: Mean, we're not ranking them. It's the guys who are

448
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: defining the season. Jordan Love he's kind of coming and out.

449
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: He's been in a lot of big moments. Unfortunately the

450
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: pack on a.

451
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 4: Fourth quarter like game winning drives for him too.

452
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's put a couple right. Okay, Well, Lamar Lamar Jackson.

453
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: I actually don't think is gonna be a hard conversation

454
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: to me. Patrick, Mahomes had a much better case to

455
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: stay on the island for how he was staying.

456
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Speaker 6: So if we voted Mahomes, office is frustraight those it

457
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 6: feels real weird to do it.

458
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 7: But I know just the same as same as Mahomes.

459
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Speaker 2: But and he he might play in week eighteen Lamar Jackson,

460
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: as we're taping this, we don't know. But for him,

461
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: I think it's even more clear than Mahomes that he

462
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: was not playing at his No, Mahomes is still like,

463
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: for instance, if you look at QBR, like Momes is

464
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: fifth on the season, like he was not having a

465
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: bad statistical season and eye eyeballs for about ten weeks

466
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: he was playing well. Lamar was never really right after

467
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: he came back. So maybe we made a mistake keeping

468
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: him on. But that's what you do with all time Green.

469
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Speaker 3: I know, I know he's he's got to go.

470
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Speaker 2: Okay, he's off. We've made a lot of room. Look

471
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: at this, we've made a lot of room. We've kicked

472
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: four people off the island. Do we want to hold

473
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: off on talking about Donald who feels like.

474
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Speaker 3: Why is he on the board.

475
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: He's a he's a on the fence.

476
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 7: I don't think he's on the fence.

477
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, Yeah, let's get this dive into it. Okay,

478
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: let's dive into it, Colleen, Why don't you start?

479
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: Okay?

480
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 5: I think that Sam Donald, Yes, the turnovers really hurt

481
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 5: him recently, but the fact that he has this team

482
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Speaker 5: where they are and his connection with JSN is unreal.

483
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: He's thrown some beautiful, beautiful we're looking at.

484
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: One right now passes to him, and I think that

485
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: his career he's seen a resurgence.

486
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 4: I like him still on the island.

487
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Speaker 5: You know that I'm a Sam Donald fan, but I

488
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 5: don't know am I alone?

489
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: I don't even know why we're talking about him being

490
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Speaker 3: on the island. Yeah, oh wow, I'm no I do

491
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: I put here?

492
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: I think you could make an argument, but I probably

493
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: am not gonna get there. He's not playing good, he's

494
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: not playing like, he's not playing well. He's for the

495
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: last five weeks they are winning with Sam Donald. I

496
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: think to be on Quarterback Island, you got to be

497
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: the reason because and I think it does bring up

498
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: an interesting question for this exercise, which is how much

499
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Speaker 2: are we waiting the last four or five weeks versus

500
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Speaker 2: the season overall, because we're going to talk about some

501
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: guys who are finishing really strong. But to me, it's

502
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: the last one of the year that the whole body

503
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: of the work does matter. And that helps Darnald out because

504
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: if we're talking about the last five weeks, I don't

505
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: think he's even close to being on the island.

506
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Speaker 6: I go full o the last five weeks, and for me,

507
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 6: that does give Sam Donald full body of the season,

508
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 6: gives him points. For me, however, I gave him even

509
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 6: more of a leash here and went the last seven weeks.

510
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Speaker 6: He is below h He's below Bryce Young, He's below

511
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 6: Jacoby Brissett, He's below Baker Mayfield. He's playing terribly, terribly

512
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 6: terrible football right now. He's below Spencer Rattler. In terms

513
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 6: of EPA per drop back through that span, he's at

514
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 6: negative point one to one EPA per dropback, nine touchdowns,

515
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 6: nine interceptions, and he's not getting pressured a heck of

516
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 6: a lot more than a lot of those other players.

517
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 6: The thing is is, like, you guys know that, Like

518
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 6: I love Sam Darnold in this offense, and I think

519
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 6: he has the resilience that is needed at the position.

520
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 6: And I think he's a perfect fit for what the

521
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 6: Seahawks are trying to do when he protects the football

522
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 6: and it's just that that turnover to interception ratio. And

523
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Speaker 6: like I said, I gave him a longer leash, even

524
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Speaker 6: seven weeks, not just four. And for me, I just

525
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 6: I could not quite get there in terms of waiting

526
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Speaker 6: the overall body of work with a almost half the

527
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 6: season at that point.

528
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Speaker 8: I see some of that, but I mean I see

529
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 8: some of the picture tipballs right.

530
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Speaker 2: There, But he's that's a feature, not a bouve, like

531
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: he is among the league leaders in tip balls. I'm

532
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: glad you brought that up, Like that's something that he

533
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: struggles with for whatever reason.

534
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: Is he tipping them?

535
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like they maybe maybe he's staring down his receivers.

536
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it's predictable.

537
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 8: Maybe they're not catching them.

538
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: That could be part of the problem.

539
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: A lot of them's at the at the line of scrimmage.

540
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: He throws the ball into into traffic.

541
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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just saying, Look, I was I was

542
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 8: at an incredible game against the Rams, whre he didn't

543
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 8: play great in the first half and then once he

544
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 8: got rolled with you.

545
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: But that's that game is a good example because to me,

546
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: he has two drives in that game and they won

547
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: with him and he he made a great overtime drive,

548
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: but he's only there. I don't want to make this

549
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: the who's the quarterback on the best teams Island. I

550
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: want it to be who's playing the best And they

551
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: flashed the stat in that Panthers game where he did

552
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: not play well in that game.

553
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 3: He did not play well in that game.

554
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: It's been a while where they said they are dead

555
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: last in the NFL in third and long conversions, And

556
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: to me, that's a that's a bit of a quarterback step, a.

557
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: Quarterback issue a lot of it's a big part of

558
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: that office last. It's a big part of that offensive scheme.

559
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 8: You can talk about the Kyle Shanahan like they can't

560
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 8: come from behind and things like that because of that

561
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 8: scheme unless you get to make sure and your explosives.

562
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: Well, okay, So for me, I'm now looking at Jordan

563
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: Love versus Sam Darnold in terms of who stays well.

564
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: There's also some other guys.

565
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: So it sounds it sounds right now like Colleen and

566
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Steve are yes and Jordan and I are a no

567
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: and so that is a natural table, and I think

568
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: we're at a point here where actually we could do

569
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: a natural break. It's actually time for our news of

570
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: the day. And that news, of course is for the

571
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: first time in QB Island history. Patrick Mahomes and Lamar

572
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: Jackson are no longer on the island. So thank you

573
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: for your service. Josh Allen, you know, and Herbert might

574
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: be the only two like long term.

575
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Speaker 6: Throwing throw it on a social graph.

576
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. We'll

577
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: talk about some of the people that might be joining

578
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: our island residents. Back on Quarterback Island, I said it

579
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: was going to be tough during the break because I

580
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: started looking at these names. Yeah, these young men who

581
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: have played fantastic this year. We're gonna have to leave

582
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: some people off. And you said, that's why it's Quarterback Island, Jordan.

583
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: It's tough.

584
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 7: It's tough.

585
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 6: It's agonizing, you guys, but that's that's part of getting

586
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 6: to the island is making that swim.

587
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: It's not supposed to be easy, Okay.

588
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: So you know how to still waters around the island.

589
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 6: I will mention some people remember, remember, yeah, all every

590
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 6: single one of.

591
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 7: US four has the riptide available to us.

592
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: What is the riptide is when one person at least

593
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 6: you use the right name for at this time. The

594
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 6: rip is when a person can autonomously decide to rip

595
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 6: one player off of quarterback island without putting it to

596
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 6: a vote, and it is done. However, the group must

597
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 6: then decide who they can replace that player on quarterback.

598
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 6: But you cannot have no control. That's the rip tide.

599
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Don't hold it for don't piss me off or anyone else?

600
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 7: Can you use yours already? Greg?

601
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: That was last year. I didn't understand the rules.

602
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 6: Technically, and technically he used something he calls the rip chord,

603
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 6: which I guess is a different thing.

604
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: Right right, that's on you, you know riptide. It's it's

605
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: very confusing. There's a lot of players who are obviously

606
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: not going to be on the island, Like we don't

607
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: need to talk about Brady Cook obviously, but just some

608
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: notable quarterbacks I wanted to mention that I don't think

609
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: are going to come up for a vote today. Tyler

610
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: Shuck in the offensive Rookie of the Year mix, We're

611
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: watching you watch us great Baker Mayfield obviously got kicked

612
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: off last time. It's gotten worse since then. I don't

613
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: think we need to talk about him. I don't Jalen

614
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: Hurts got kicked off last time. He was the reason

615
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: we did another episode, I think at the end of

616
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: last year because he won the Super Bowl and everything

617
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: and we were feeling bad about that. I don't think

618
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: it's a hard conversation. He's an obvious no right now.

619
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: And so those are just a couple of the notable

620
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: knows that Joey Burrow too, well, Okay, let's let's go

621
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: to Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrow is interesting because

622
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm not nominating him, but I'm not not

623
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: nominated him because I do want to think about being

624
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: consistent for everyone here. If you look at the last

625
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: five weeks in any statistical measure, yeah, he's in the

626
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: top five basically in advanced stats and counting stats. I

627
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: don't need to go through them all. And if we're

628
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: gonna potentially put some people onto quarterback Island based on

629
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: how they're playing, you know, primarily in the last five

630
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: weeks in the season, I think Trevor Lawrence and brock

631
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: Perty are going to be interesting names that come up.

632
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Then then at least I think trying to be consistent.

633
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: It's not It's not crazy to think about Joe Burrow.

634
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: So why wouldn't you say shuck?

635
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: Why would they chuck? It's not at that level of Okay, okay.

636
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 6: I will see in terms of EPA per dropback, I'm

637
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 6: unqualified passers. When I'm in my weeks ten to seventeen framework.

638
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 6: Right now, Tyler Shuck is outside of the top ten

639
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 6: and we're doing eight. Obviously, Joe Burrow is a fifth. Oh,

640
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 6: he's killing it in terms of qualified players.

641
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Now is he defining is he defining the position? I

642
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: think he takes a pretty big negative in that he's

643
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: missed most of the season. I think that is part

644
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: of that and the bigger the bigger one for me,

645
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: it is why I probably am leaning, but I want

646
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: to go through all the names to him off is

647
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: that they did get it shut out one of those

648
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: five weeks. If you've only played like five weeks that

649
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: we're basing on and your team scored zero points in

650
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: one of those five weeks, and in the biggest game

651
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: of the season, even though you went crazy in the snow,

652
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: you turn the ball over two times. At the very end.

653
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: Then it makes it harder, like he would have had

654
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: to maybe be so exceptional m VP level.

655
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 6: He would have had to have a little more rule

656
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 6: of cool with him too. I think making those plays

657
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: in the snow, I'm not voting him on. I'm saying

658
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 6: no to Joe Burrow. Look forward to it next year.

659
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 4: Okay on the island.

660
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: If he didn't miss so much of the season because

661
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: of the sample size that we have from him and

662
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 5: knowing what he's done before, but even after he came

663
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: back from the injury, he's played really well.

664
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: But I think it's just missed too much.

665
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: Is this gonna make Joe Moore melancholy?

666
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, it is true.

667
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 7: Think of his feeling.

668
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: I mean they they did get shut out, like immediately after.

669
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: He was really sad, which is not quarter of the world. Okay,

670
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: I love all right, We did vote no.

671
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: Does anyone someone go on?

672
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

673
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

674
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: Please?

675
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: How about mister brock Pert. We gotta be on this island.

676
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 5: Since the Niners, since he returned, the Niners offense has

677
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: lit up, and he's done so well multiple games now

678
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 5: with five total touchdowns. He's good with his legs and

679
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: his arm. I think that he's so efficient, like this

680
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: is someone who should one hundred percent be on the

681
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: island right now.

682
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 6: He is one of the best perimeter passers. About that

683
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 6: in the NFL right now. He also only trails Drake

684
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 6: May in terms of EPA per dropback.

685
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 8: He was always known as a kind of in the

686
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 8: middle of the field type of passer. Now he's perimeter.

687
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 8: He's moving the ball. But I mean, something Greg says

688
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 8: all the time when he's talking about quarterback island defining

689
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 8: the position. I don't know anyone who's playing the position

690
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 8: better than him right now behind an offensive line that's rotating.

691
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 8: He had George Kittle sometimes sometimes he has not. He's

692
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 8: got Juwan Let it be known, Jenny.

693
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: That he's throwing the ball to.

694
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: You know, I just said it last night on the

695
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: Free Game Show.

696
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 5: I said something about Juwan Jennings and he said, let

697
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 5: it be known, and I stopped dead because I was like, yes,

698
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 5: And then I was like, oh, it's a joke.

699
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 4: I get the joke now, damn it. And now there's

700
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 4: just silence. Hold on, let me.

701
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: Keep going, you know.

702
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: But I mean, he's just I mean, you could say

703
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: ho on NFL daily maybe not.

704
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying Shelby Harris did Yeah. I just think the

705
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: fact that Shelby was great.

706
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 8: And saying let it be know like four different ways,

707
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 8: like when he makes it play like letting you know

708
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 8: Juwan Jennings making a play let.

709
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: If you know, Johan Jennings is one of the best

710
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: supporting actors of this season. Absolutely so Shelby, Harris and Brock.

711
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 8: You know, look, Brock's got the dougie going on, which

712
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 8: he showed he's doing a dougie, but I don't.

713
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: It's to me. Look at Brock.

714
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 8: I mean the last three games, love and love and

715
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 8: touchdown passes, he unders haven't lost.

716
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 6: He's doing it's yeah, five interceptions on the season.

717
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: He's doing it like in in big moments you're you're

718
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: watching him, he's he's giving you the wow fa. He

719
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: is defining the position. The only argument that I think

720
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: you could have against him is the playing time that

721
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: like he's still played less than mac Jones's yeah, you know,

722
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: which is crazy. And that's why I thought we had

723
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: to talk Burrow, because if we're gonna give Purdy, if

724
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna put perty on, they've played around the same

725
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: amount of time, and so you at least have to

726
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: think about Burrow if we're willing to accept it. But

727
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: ultimately one seed to ultimately, I'm with you, guys. I

728
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: think he's a yes.

729
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 6: And let me correct myself. Nine interceptions on the season

730
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 6: still yes to me when I was looking at my

731
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 6: ten to seventeen parameters, right.

732
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 8: And that's what he's and that's who he's got six

733
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 8: sixteen and sixteen and five in that run.

734
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: And I think I think he's better than he was

735
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: when he was an MVP candidate and sort of had

736
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: the same moment that Matthew Stafford had on Primetime and

737
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: lost in a big spot to lose the MVP. We

738
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: are yes on rock Perty. I thought that would be tricky.

739
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 7: You seem to have come into the show with a

740
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 7: lot of thoughts.

741
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: I just made a list. I thought he'd be a

742
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: great switch here.

743
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 4: It's a real change from how you normal and you

744
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 4: are dealing with.

745
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: A fairly favorable Brock Party crowd right here too.

746
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: That's fair Okay.

747
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: So now there's six spots.

748
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: Six spots taken, and you could always, you know, change

749
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: your mind as we go, but there's six spots taken.

750
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean I'm saying we always said, like we have

751
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: we got tied, Yeah, yeah we could, or if we

752
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: had nine on, like we could eventually decide to kick

753
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: someone just because I respect him and I want him

754
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: to mention him on this show. Since we've kicked Jared

755
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: GoF off, he's actually played better. Yes, And if we're

756
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: just recognizing great quarterback play for this season, I think

757
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: the first eight to ten weeks hurt him a little bit.

758
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: Don't think it was one of his best seasons. For

759
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: the last four or five weeks, he's been outstanding. He's

760
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: been what outstanding I know, not against Minnesota on Christmas

761
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: that probably got him off. Before that, I think it

762
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: was one of the best four game stretches of his

763
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: entire career. And they've lost games. And that's why, like

764
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: quarterback is not about. I think he's showing he can

765
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: do it when it's not great around him. Until that

766
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: Minnesota game.

767
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: That's I would be.

768
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 2: I think he was like individually kind of grading his

769
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: performance every week. I think he was on a heater

770
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: and he was playing well.

771
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 8: I guess I just need to play play better stretches,

772
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 8: which was how good of a player he that he is?

773
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: And then again that Minnesota game.

774
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: The Minnesota game, an impossible chance of making it onto

775
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: an eight. No, that's a no for Jared Goff, but

776
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: just wanted to give him the respect of getting voted on.

777
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: Can I please do it?

778
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 7: The flaw is yours is a panel A one Trevor.

779
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: Oh Laurence ezy, Yeah, he's listened.

780
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: Defining the way the position is played this year, defining

781
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 6: the story of the quarterback this year, defining a team

782
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 6: that is uh exceeding expectations, and and and a playoff team,

783
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 6: and a team that is rolling right now and is

784
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 6: really clicking in that offense after a little bit of

785
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: an up and down and consistent start, really really fun

786
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 6: to watch, has great skill guys around him, getting help

787
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 6: from a run game, getting help from an offensive line. Sure,

788
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 6: but Trevor Lawrence is also making things happen. He's not

789
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 6: making that one catastrophic decision per game that tanks the game.

790
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 6: He's actually he's lifting the floor of this offense quite well.

791
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 6: You know, I said it after one of the best

792
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 6: games I've ever seen and play, probably the best game

793
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 6: I've ever seen play in his career a couple of

794
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 6: weeks ago. Trevor Lawrence, the playoffs are in the distance.

795
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 6: But first up is quarterback Freakin Island Welcome.

796
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 8: I would agree, and I tell you the playoffs teams

797
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 8: are not afraid of Jacksonville right now. They will be, yeah,

798
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 8: because they're killing on both sides of the ball. But

799
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 8: Clemson Trevor is the reason why we saw We saw

800
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 8: Clemson Trevor early in the season against Denver on Monday Night.

801
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 8: And now he has really dialed it up. And this

802
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 8: is where James Gladstone the new GM by getting to

803
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 8: Kobe Myers. It almost is like, Okay, now, Trevor's kind

804
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 8: of like, I've got five or six guys you throw

805
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 8: the ball to. I don't have to, folks. Brian Thomas

806
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 8: Junior is the one player. We don't talk about them.

807
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 8: We don't talk about much because you got Parker Washington,

808
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 8: Traves CTN. You know, uh, the tight ended Brent Strange.

809
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm Strange.

810
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you got it.

811
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 8: But he's spreading the ball out. It's no longer you've

812
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 8: got to I got to get the ball to this

813
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 8: guy or that guy. It is like the world has

814
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 8: opened up to Clemson Trevor. Nine rushing touchdowns too.

815
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say he's not.

816
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: He's using his legs too and not really turning over

817
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: the ball. I know he had one turnover one interception

818
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 5: this past game, but otherwise really clean football.

819
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, your your eyes were lighting up just with him

820
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: with Steve talking Trevor Lawrence. We've got some big Lawrence

821
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: fans here. I am leaning famously, I have not often

822
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: and I'm leaning yes, But I do just want to

823
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: make sort of the point that if he's on, it's

824
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 2: it's just for the last five weeks. Because he wasn't,

825
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: he would be below average for the first talk this season.

826
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 2: So it is recognizing I think that you can be

827
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: so hot late in the season and he playing like

828
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: as well as any quarterback in football, that it's so

829
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: exceptional that you just have to put him on because

830
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: numbers wise, it's this was kind of surprising to me.

831
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: So I went through five numbers just to have sort

832
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: of a blanket of like, okay, just what's their profile statistically? Yeah,

833
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: and season long, and this is QBR DEPA for play

834
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: at success rate, it's completion percentage over expected, and then

835
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: it's PFF PFF, which is more subjective. That's the only

836
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: spot where he's even in the top ten. They have

837
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: him tenth on a play to play basis just pure numbers.

838
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: The other ones are nineteenth, seventeenth, fourteenth, and then twenty

839
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 2: eighth and completion percentage over expected because he's not always

840
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: that accurate there. He is an average quarterback if you

841
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 2: take the whole season and bucket his stats. That also

842
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: is not really you know, including rushing, which is a

843
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: big factor for him. But it's just something to point

844
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: out that he is a really unique case if we're

845
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: putting him up.

846
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 6: Yes, and I think that's all fair to point out.

847
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 6: And it also is fair to say that when you

848
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 6: turn on his tape and you see some of the

849
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 6: throws that he has made, including some of the out

850
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: of structure plays sending throws, and when you also do

851
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 6: see him use his legs in factor that into the equation,

852
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 6: which we have done so for other quarterbacks who have

853
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 6: been on the quarterback.

854
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have to QBR by the way he does.

855
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: I misspoke there.

856
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 6: I would I would say, like the the highs of

857
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 6: this stretch that he's on right now completely lift the

858
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 6: rest of the season.

859
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: I would I agree.

860
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 8: I vote yes, and and real quick on one last

861
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 8: thing on the Jags.

862
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: While we're voting, We're all voting.

863
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Trevor Lawrence is on QB Island.

864
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: There we go.

865
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 8: Now, first up, did anybody look like more like an

866
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 8: Island guy than trust Child Cod?

867
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: But can we get over the small market thing?

868
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 8: Because they are London's team. London is a large market.

869
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 8: Shod con one of his recruits. This is a conversation

870
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 8: I've had with Shod. One of his recruiting elements to

871
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 8: players is come work for us. We can get you

872
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 8: on billboards over in London. You can be the the

873
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 8: the American football MESSI oh, okay, so you can be all.

874
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 2: On the Yeah.

875
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: I don't buy the small market team thing either, but

876
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 6: I do love how. I do love how Duvall, like

877
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 6: Jacksonville fan embraced Liam cohen Is because he he will

878
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 6: never miss a moment to be petty. And I mean

879
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 6: that as a compliment, like he will not miss a

880
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 6: moment in the fan base is all dying for it.

881
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 6: And I love it for them because he's got the

882
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 6: one liners and he just goes for it and it

883
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 6: is It's awesome.

884
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 7: He gives no f's Florida.

885
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 2: Man, they've been averaging over thirty points a game since

886
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: since that buy where he really turned things around. And yeah,

887
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: they've they've won twelve games. They're one of the stories

888
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: of the season. He's on we only have one spot.

889
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: Can I come up with my perpetual landmine guy?

890
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 6: Then?

891
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: B Nix? Okay, I'm so glad you brought him up. Bonix.

892
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you talk about a guy going on a heater.

893
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: He had about a three or four week run where

894
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: he was killing it.

895
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 8: His team is winning, then he keeps doing this, Oh

896
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 8: my gosh, he's playing like crap for two quarters and

897
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,959
Speaker 8: then he kills it.

898
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 3: On the final drive.

899
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 8: When we're looking at some of these other people on here,

900
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 8: including a guy like Jordan Love is on the fence,

901
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 8: do you say, like Boenix is doing it for a

902
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 8: team that's number one seed right now and they're winning

903
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 8: more so because of him.

904
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: He's not losing them ball games, right.

905
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: Are they're winning because of him?

906
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: Well, they're they're winning because of their defense.

907
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: Are they winning with him?

908
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 8: And so that to me is like I would say,

909
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 8: I would say this though, he's making the plays when

910
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 8: they have to make him in compliments to the defense.

911
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying, I don't think we can ignore him.

912
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 8: He's I don't think he's got the numbers, not just

913
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 8: wins and losses, He's got the rushes. He does things

914
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 8: to put defenses in conflict all over the place. You know,

915
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 8: you're saying to yourself, Okay, he's as good as Josh

916
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 8: alln't know, not right now, but I mean we can't.

917
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 8: I don't think we can move forward without having a

918
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 8: conversation as to whether he belongs in the final eight.

919
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And he says what it's going to come down

920
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: to for me with quarterback Island because I wouldn't put

921
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: Bryce Young on there. We hadn't talked about him yet, obviously,

922
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 6: Philip Rivers, I mean, no, fun, Well, I'm talking about

923
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 6: people I haven't no, I think not yet. Yeah, we

924
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 6: haven't mentioned, but no, we're not. We're not talking about

925
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 6: any of these people.

926
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: I think we only have one more guy, Caleb Williams

927
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: that hasn't been mentioned. That would be a serious.

928
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 8: Discuss and you know, and on that note, just what

929
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 8: we can mention is CJ. Shroud would be a no

930
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 8: for all this.

931
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: Correct.

932
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he's had his moments, but he just

933
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 8: hasn't been and that's.

934
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 7: What I was about to say.

935
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 6: For me, it comes down to who was on the

936
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 6: island between Bonix and Caleb Williams. That's what it comes down.

937
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a legit.

938
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: I love that.

939
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: To me, Darnold or Love, especially Love have a stronger

940
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: case to me than Bonix. So my case against Bonix, Okay,

941
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: you say he's got the stats, but he doesn't have

942
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: the stats. And that's that's important to me because I

943
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: did that profile of of the like all the different metrics,

944
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 2: bonis thirteenth and QBR sixteenth, EPA seventeenth, success rate, twenty fourth,

945
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: completion percentage over expected seventeenth PFF, and that reflects how

946
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: I feel watching football every week. If I'm slotting in

947
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: all the quarterbacks and who's doing exceptional things, who's helping,

948
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: who's not, He to me is somewhere in that fourteen

949
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: to seventeen.

950
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: You can't put Caleb on range. You can't put them.

951
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: On I think Caleb will be an interesting talk too,

952
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: But the difference that Caleb has I think at least

953
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: over bo if I'm comparing those two, Although putting my

954
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: cards on the table, I think I think Love or

955
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: Darnold would be better picks than either one. I think

956
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: Caleb has defined the season and like because of the

957
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 2: plays that he's made, because of the wow factor, because

958
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: of the moments that Bo's been great. But Bo hasn't

959
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: had those moments. And to me, I'm knocking him for

960
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: the first half of the season too, where he.

961
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 8: He has to have those moments. That's when they won

962
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 8: the ball games. When he's making those moments. I mean,

963
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 8: Caleb's not completing sixty percent of his passes.

964
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 4: The game against the Giants is like such a that's

965
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: a moment.

966
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: That's a big moment, a moment, it's a big moment.

967
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 7: The story.

968
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: I think he needed to have like a Trevor like

969
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: run to make up for his first half. And to me,

970
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't been at that level.

971
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, he had like three games where he was

972
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 8: three hundred plus in a row.

973
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 4: He has thrown for a lot of housing yards.

974
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, go he like up until last week,

975
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: he was rolling about a month.

976
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: Right, But do you think he like I think that's

977
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: a good example the Jacksonville game for instance, Like he

978
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: throws for over three hundred yards in that game. Do

979
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: you think like that's a QB Island performance that was

980
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: kind of to me a QB island off and Trevor

981
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: when when's that?

982
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: I mean they got I think they got dominated every

983
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: phase in that game.

984
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 8: I think as a team. But you know again, when

985
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 8: when I look at Caleb, who I love and I

986
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 8: would would.

987
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: I would love to get him on the island, let's

988
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: talk about him.

989
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 8: But I was saying, based on your arguments what you

990
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 8: were just saying against bow and Nicks, and you can't

991
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 8: put Caleb in that conversation.

992
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: If you're using that as the crustion, I'm not that

993
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: is not the only one for me. But I think

994
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: if it's supporting what I'm seeing, I'm using stats, I'm

995
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: using define the position sixth gear. Now I'm saying, you

996
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: got to he would be a guy to me that

997
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: would have to make up for and stat's what he's

998
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: lacking in sort of eye test.

999
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: I think the story of who Caleb Williams has become

1000
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 6: as the franchise quarterback of that team, and the way

1001
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 6: that he has has continued to thrive in the most

1002
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 6: unlikely moments is something that dramatically lifts the stat sort

1003
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 6: of truth to me. I also think that Bo Nicks

1004
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 6: for similarly, you know, same second second year quarterback, same

1005
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 6: kind of thing bo Nicks, the way he runs this offense,

1006
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 6: and the way you can tell between play caller quarterback

1007
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: the minute that Sean Payton in game takes the training

1008
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 6: wheels off and lets him go when those types of things,

1009
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 6: when they're on again. The ceiling is is higher than

1010
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 6: many of the quarterbacks on the island. So that's what

1011
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 6: I'm kind of stuck on. Caleb William's ceiling is making

1012
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 6: miracles happen.

1013
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: He's insane.

1014
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 6: Bon Nix's ceiling and but in flashes right, it making

1015
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 6: miracles happen in miracle improbability moments. Bon Nix His ceiling

1016
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 6: is games like a couple of weeks ago, when you

1017
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 6: know he's he's throwing from multiple touchdowns and Sean Payton

1018
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 6: is just letting him cook all up and down the

1019
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 6: field to Courtland Sutton. So that's where I'm stuck, truly

1020
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 6: between these two. And I know we've tabled it, and

1021
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 6: what I you know, what I meant to point out earlier,

1022
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 6: I wanted to point out, Yes, I know we've tabled

1023
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 6: Jordan Love and Sam Donald, but these two second year quarterbacks,

1024
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: they are defining the position.

1025
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.

1026
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 5: I think with Bonix he's just been too up and

1027
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: down for me, it hasn't been as consistent of a

1028
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: rise and as steady of a development as we've seen

1029
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 5: with Caleb Williams. So for me, that's not what that's

1030
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: puts Caleb over Bonett.

1031
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 8: You know, Here's it's crazy, it sounds and it's very

1032
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 8: surface based. But Klebs is more fun to watch too.

1033
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think that should That's why Jordan

1034
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: Loved Me gets a bonus because to me he is

1035
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: I find he makes the wow throw.

1036
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't find him very amusingly fun to.

1037
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: Watch yet amusing.

1038
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: He's not the thrill ride since I did it before.

1039
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: I just saw.

1040
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 6: Steve's dad face for the first like he was like

1041
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 6: type Actually, I'm not very I'm not very amused by

1042
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 6: you missing perfew.

1043
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, like I just saw for the first time. It's incredible.

1044
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: That's incredible. I think even that were like strongly considering

1045
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: Caleb for a top eight spot, which I am.

1046
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: I am.

1047
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I love he lies these numbers, but I do want

1048
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: to bring him up because I think that other stuff

1049
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: has to be so exceptional to put this into context,

1050
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: and some of this is from the first half. Like Bonix,

1051
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: I think he's playing his best down the stretch. H

1052
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: But in all those stats, kind of just going through them.

1053
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: Sixteenth QBR, fifteenth THPA, pri play twenty eighth, success rate

1054
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: second to asked and completion percentage over expected, which tracks

1055
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: like he misses throws you expect him to make and

1056
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: he makes it throws you don't drop a ton of

1057
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: and then fifteenth in PFF. So none of them like

1058
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: there isn't really a great statistical argument for killed. It's

1059
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: all the other spots, which is which is significant, which

1060
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: is significant.

1061
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 7: That's part of Quarterback Island. I know I'm now, but

1062
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 7: here's the thing. We also still have to talk about

1063
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 7: Sam and Jordan.

1064
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 2: Yes, because.

1065
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 7: Four guys one spot.

1066
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: Four guys one spot. Does anyone want to just go

1067
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: out right now and at least just say who is

1068
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: your guy out of those four to put on? To

1069
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: put on right now? Because I think that's what this

1070
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: season finale is coming down to. Frank, I'll go first,

1071
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: because none of us have any questions about the seven

1072
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: guys that are on right now compared to these four

1073
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: right I would love.

1074
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 3: To put Kayleb Williams on I think I think he's

1075
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 3: rolling right now in this offense. Something I just said

1076
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: that when you watch the Bears play, you can take

1077
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: all this sense. Look at how many passes his guys drop.

1078
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 8: His numbers could be better, his wow factor could be better,

1079
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 8: Maybe their win total could be better.

1080
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: If you have some guys who consistently hung on to

1081
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: the ball.

1082
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 5: Well, jaday Walker, if he caught that ball, which he

1083
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 5: did the game before and was the hero, and also

1084
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: he had like hardly played.

1085
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: Let's be real though, like he's just not as accurate

1086
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: as these other quarterbacks. Yes, I wouldn't check that he

1087
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: does have a lot of drops. You know who has

1088
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: the most actually Bo Nicks. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence has the most.

1089
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: Bo Nix's second and Caleb is third.

1090
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 6: So it's however, weeks ten through seventeen, my parameters, Caleb

1091
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 6: Williams has thrown the fewest interceptions of any quarterback in qualifying.

1092
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: He prevents negative plays better than any of these quarterbacks

1093
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: on the edge in terms of sack avoidance and interception

1094
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: the ball. Yeah, so it's a nice combo of like

1095
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: flash and not making huge mistakes other than missing gimmes

1096
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: sometimes like.

1097
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: That he has, Like there are a couple of throws that.

1098
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers game that he wants back for all

1099
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: the great throws that he makes, but that's been part

1100
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 2: of the experience.

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00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 7: I do love all of these guys.

1102
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 6: I think at least two of them were talking about

1103
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 6: qualities that we love in quarterbacks too, which is resilience,

1104
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, late game scenarios, Sam Darnold, resilience.

1105
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 6: I don't know necessarily that now. The thing about the

1106
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 6: Broncos is situationally. Overall they've won close games. They've done

1107
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 6: so by navigating and by his in part, but the

1108
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 6: collective as a whole ability to close these games out

1109
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 6: and win they're close, or.

1110
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: Set the best line or set up yeah, or.

1111
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 6: Set up the game winning field good, great defense, ask

1112
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 6: great either that's fair?

1113
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 5: Do you He's so close to becoming the Bears first

1114
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 5: franchise quarterbacks throw for four thousand yards.

1115
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: I cannot believe that.

1116
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: That's never how I came into this liking Jordan Love.

1117
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: And if you guys were in on Jordan Love, I

1118
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: would be in on Jordan Love too, because I I

1119
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: do just think he's played the position at a higher

1120
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: level consistently than Caleb Williams. But you you guys, have

1121
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: you guys have kind of convinced me. I just hate

1122
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: the fact that he took a shot, you know, and

1123
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: getting knocked out with the concussion might be the deciding

1124
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: factor here. But I think in the spirit of what

1125
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about QB Island wise of like defining the

1126
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: position in that little something extra the land, yap, maybe

1127
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: it is Caleb, unless unless I have.

1128
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm all about Caleb.

1129
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 3: So who's coming off?

1130
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's vote Caleb Williams. I vote yes, he's on.

1131
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: Halleen will votes yes, he is on.

1132
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 6: I vote yes as well for Caleb Williams, quarterback, who

1133
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 6: I believe is among the top players defining the position

1134
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 6: this season.

1135
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I think we've done it. We have to formally,

1136
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: we have to hate that we do this. I hate

1137
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: that this happens. But the Governor's Council, who I report to,

1138
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: who actually funds all of Quarterback Island, they require that

1139
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: we officially do vote off the two guys. But no,

1140
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: we don't have anything. Unless I'm crazy. We have eight

1141
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 2: guys on QB Island and we have to officially vote

1142
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: no on Sam Donald.

1143
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: Bye, Bro, I could still Oh yeah.

1144
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: I like what you did there. Colleen is going yes, okay.

1145
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: I see.

1146
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 6: If it was still ten, if there were still ten,

1147
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 6: I'd put Jordan and then Bo still on.

1148
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I would put Donald. I would put

1149
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: Donald ahead of them. I would put Love in Donald.

1150
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: But let's vote officially on Jordan Love. I vote no.

1151
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: It's all and no, and that's done it. Play the music.

1152
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: I don't know what music. We don't have. Celebratory just

1153
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: one moment that happened, Simon. You don't need to play

1154
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: us out. You had me. I thought she was gonna

1155
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: use it on Drake May. No, She's just like I

1156
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: just love Stafford so much. You know that Jordan was

1157
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: watching that game Monday night and be like, I can't

1158
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: believe this is happening.

1159
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 6: I think that's the first time I've ever actually make

1160
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 6: made Greg like just a little, just a little question.

1161
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: That was a good We were like, let's name the

1162
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: official residence of quarterback Island season finale, we think season two,

1163
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, congratulations the consistency over the last two years.

1164
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: You deserve it. Dak Prescott, great job. Justin Herbert didn't

1165
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: even have to debate it Drake May and Matthew Stafford,

1166
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: two men who will discuss on many future NFL dailies,

1167
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure in terms of the m VP conversation, and

1168
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: then voted onto the Island today can congratulations to Brock

1169
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: Purty back on the island. Started the year there. We

1170
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: might have forgotten, but started the year there. Trevor Lawrence

1171
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: first time.

1172
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Quarterback Island.

1173
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 4: I love the Island.

1174
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen is kind of a QB Island kingmaker right now.

1175
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: He did it for Baker, he did it for Trevor.

1176
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: And then another one is Ben Johnson, who helped Jared

1177
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: goff out certainly and now him and Caleb Williams. Wow,

1178
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 2: beautiful Spars fans. You can't say we're haters anymore.

1179
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 3: Market Island for Trevor.

1180
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 2: That is it for today's Quarterback Island. Thank you to

1181
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: Colleen Wolf, Steve Weisch and Jordan Rodrigue. We will be

1182
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: back on Wednesday with a big pre new show. We

1183
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: can't top this though. We should just quit quit.

1184
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: Now while we're a Happy New Year.

1185
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: By the way, Happy New Year

1186
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 7: Happy New Year,