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Therésa: Good morning to all of you in the land of the living,

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Therésa: and a good eternal twilight to the rest of us.

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Therésa: Now I'm starting to get some haters in the comments,

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Therésa: a lot of Therésa "ghost aren't real." Well, I'd say, I'm non-

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Therésa: living proof that that's not the case. But fine, fair. I

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Therésa: used to think the same thing. Of course, my psychic

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Therésa: back in L.A. was always telling me otherwise. All "a

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Therésa: thin veil betwixt hell and Earth brings spirits around to lay

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Therésa: their curse." But I always figured she was just kooky. Not

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Therésa: to mention completely off base with my ex Jeremy, by

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Therésa: the way. It turns out we weren't "star- cross lovers, our souls reuniting in their

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Therésa: mortal incarnations as they'd had from time immemorial." He was

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Therésa: just a narcissist. Swear to God. Len

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Len: (mumbles)

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Therésa: Oh, sorry, I keep forgetting. This actually brings me to

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Therésa: my next order of business, and further proof that ghosts

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Therésa: are absolutely real. We have a new member joining the

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Therésa: Haunting team. She was doing undergrad at UCLA, and now she's

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Therésa: a succubus from Hell. Everyone, please give a warm virtual

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Therésa: welcome to our new intern Naomi!

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Therésa: Naomi gets really triggered by the god word college kids,

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Therésa: But what can you expect from a general studies major? However,

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Therésa: credit where credit is due. Naomi found our next totally

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Therésa: true haunt, Greg, who hails from our former neck of

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Therésa: the woods, Los Angeles.

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Therésa: What I wouldn't give for the chicken parm at Dan Tana's right

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Therésa: about now. You living are so lucky. Back to Greg,

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Therésa: we all know roommates can be a bit of a challenge.

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Therésa: My old roommate, Miranda, almost burned our apartment down with

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Therésa: a Dyson air wrap on three separate occasions. She's what we

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Therésa: call clumsy, yet somehow she's still alive. But what's worse,

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Therésa: roommates you don't even know you're signing up for. Like

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Therésa: in Greg's case, I'll let him tell it.

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Story A: I was newly single and I moved into my new house.

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Story A: Weird things happened for a good three years. It started

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Story A: with subtle things, but over the years just increased and

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Story A: it happened more often. It got to the point where

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Story A: it was scary. My name is Greg, and I moved

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Story A: in with a ghost named Elmer.

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Story A: This was at the time when real estate was at

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Story A: a premium, and I thought, there's no way I'll be

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Story A: able to afford a house. But I think that the

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Story A: reason the price is so reasonable is because the kids

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Story A: were selling the house on behalf of their dad, who

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Story A: died in the main bedroom of that house. His name

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Story A: was Elmer. It might sound awful, but I was actually

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Story A: kind of happy to hear that somebody had died in

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Story A: the house because I thought I would reduced the competition.

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Story A: And it didn't bother me that he died there, because

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Story A: in a way, it made me feel like that's where

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Story A: people should die. He was an old man and he

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Story A: died at home. That's the natural progression of life. So

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Story A: it made me almost feel nice that this old man

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Story A: died in his own home. And if it's driving other

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Story A: people away, then I'm fine with it. I made an

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Story A: offer on the house. They accepted it right away, and

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Story A: I was very excited about that.

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Story A: I lived there alone for about a year and then

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Story A: my partner, Mario moved in. That's when I noticed strange

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Story A: things happening. It started with subtle things. In the living

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Story A: room we have these two free standing lamps and they have

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Story A: three way bulbs on them. Every once in a while

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Story A: they'll flicker, and I'm thinking, well, it's a three way

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Story A: ball maybe they're dying, maybe they need to be changed.

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Story A: I would test the lamps regularly, like tighten the bulb

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Story A: or see if the switch was broken. Nothing was out

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Story A: of order. Their bulbs were new, the bulbs were in

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Story A: there tight, the switch was not janky. Everything was in working

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Story A: in order. I've always heard that ghosts or spirits communicate

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Story A: through electricity or light. Even so, one night I had

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Story A: the idea of, why don't I just yell at Elmer

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Story A: to stop playing with the lights. And so I yell "Elmer,

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Story A: stop it!" Sure enough, they would stop flickering. If I

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Story A: have people over, they'll start flickering again, and I will

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Story A: jokingly say, "oh, that's Elmer." Somebody says, "who's Elmer?" "Oh

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Story A: the guy who died in the house." And I'll yell "Elmer,

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Story A: stop it!" The minute you yell, they'll stop flickering. And

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Story A: it worked one hundred percent of the time. I'm definitely

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Story A: not an electrician, I'm not even technically savvy, but I'm

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Story A: pretty sure that lights don't stop flickering when you yell

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Story A: at them. It was almost like Elmer letting you know, hey,

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Story A: I'm still here, this is still my home.

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Story A: I'm convinced that Elmer was a militant non smoker. Because

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Story A: I would go outside to have a cigarette and I

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Story A: close the sliding glass door behind me. My partner, Mario's

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Story A: watching TV. I sit have a cigarette, that takes about five minutes,

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Story A: and I can see Mario's still on the couch, still

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Story A: watching TV. He didn't move one foot. And when I

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Story A: am finished, I walk back to the door, try to

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Story A: open the door, and it won't open. It's locked. It

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Story A: was a basic sliding glass door with a lock that

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Story A: is just a latch up as unlocked down as locked,

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Story A: you have to lock it from the inside. It wasn't old,

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Story A: it wasn't broken, it was in fine shape. So I

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Story A: pound on the door. He comes over and says, "why

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Story A: didn't you just come in?" I said, "you locked me out."

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Story A: He said, "no, I haven't even gotten up off the couch."

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Story A: I totally believe that's the case, because we have wooden floors.

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Story A: I would have seen or even heard him walk over

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Story A: to the door, and I would have heard the door

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Story A: click locked. None of that ever happened. Nobody had touched

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Story A: the door, and I wasn't the only person that's happened to.

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Story A: I have a good friend who also smoked. I would

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Story A: be on the couch watching TV. The friend goes out

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Story A: to have a cigarette. From my vantage point, I can

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Story A: see her outside smoking that entire time. She tried to

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Story A: come in, knocked on the sliding glass door, and I

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Story A: went up to let her in. I said, "how were

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Story A: you able to lock that behind you?" She said, "I didn't.

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Story A: You're the one who locked me out." I said, "no,

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Story A: I haven't gotten up off the couch. I haven't even moved."

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Story A: Anybody that I would have over to go out and

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Story A: have a cigarette, same deal. They would get locked out

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Story A: every time. I don't know if the door locked behind

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Story A: them from Elmer, but it only happened when somebody was smoking.

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Story A: Other strange things started happening as well. This was the

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Story A: day of the iPod dock. If you're not familiar, you

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Story A: just put your iPod into a little speaker system and

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Story A: that plays your music for you. The iPod dock I

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Story A: had in the bedroom, next to the bed. We have

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Story A: two nightstands. There's the main part of the nightstand and

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Story A: then a little lower shelf. That's where the iPod dock is kept.

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Story A: It's plugged into the wall, but the plug for the

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Story A: iPod doc is behind the bed. I love to play

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Story A: a certain album by one of my favorite bands, Nine

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Story A: Inch Nails, And I know exactly how long this album is,

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Story A: and I listened to it all the time. So I'm

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Story A: cleaning my house and I heard the music stop. I

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Story A: knew the album wasn't over because it had only been

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Story A: a few minutes. So I walk into the bedroom. I

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Story A: looked down and there's the iPod dock on the middle

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Story A: of the floor. And then the iPod itself ended up

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Story A: a good ten feet away from where the dock was. So,

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Story A: it looks like it was violently kicked or almost shoved

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Story A: off the shelf of the nightstand. I'm home alone, so

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Story A: what could the answer to that be? And it got

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Story A: even weirder. It only happened when I listened to my music.

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Story A: My partner Mario listen to Adele, Jennifer Lopez. That never

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Story A: got messed with. But when I would play Nine Inch

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Story A: Nails or The Killers, something louder and heavier, it would

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Story A: inevitably end up in the middle of the floor, and

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Story A: that's when nobody's in the room. Unlike the flickering lights,

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Story A: the iPod thing was even more strange. A light doesn't

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Story A: require physical touch, it's more of an energy. An iPod dock

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Story A: being kicked or thrown across the room. That is something

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Story A: to do with physics that we can't even explain or understand.

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Story A: My partner, Mario, has a background in sales and was

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Story A: considering working in radio sales. So, I had a friend

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Story A: who was an anchor at a news talk station. John

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Story A: knew everybody, knew everyone in the industry, so had him

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Story A: over for dinner. John said, "I have a great idea

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Story A: for you. Let me just write down a few people

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Story A: that I know." So I grabbed a notepad. This notepad

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Story A: was five or six inches and about two inches wide.

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Story A: He wrote down a name and a number on each page,

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Story A: ripped the page out. "Oh, I remembered another guy, Let

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Story A: me give you his number. Oh I remember this woman

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Story A: I used to work with. She's still in sales. Let

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Story A: me give you her number." So by the end of

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Story A: the night I had six pages of names and phone numbers.

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Story A: I left them on the kitchen counter. Next morning, I

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Story A: walked into the kitchen and in front of the kitchen sink,

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Story A: we have an area rug. I looked down and on

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Story A: the floor there's these six pages with those names and

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Story A: phone numbers on them, and they are all lined up

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Story A: in a perfect line, right along the edge of that rug.

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Story A: As if you used a ruler to make them straight

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Story A: along that rug. Absolutely no explanation for that. I played

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Story A: out the scenarios in my head. I knew that I

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Story A: had left them on the counter right before going to bed.

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Story A: I checked, there was no breeze, there was no open window,

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Story A: there's no other people, none of the above. There's just

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Story A: no way that these papers could have ended up on

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Story A: the floor lined up like that on their own. It

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Story A: just doesn't make sense.

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Story A: But one of the most noteworthy experiences in that house

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Story A: I found what I thought was a handprint on the

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Story A: back cushion of my couch. My partner and I every

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Story A: single night, much like you make the bed in the morning,

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Story A: we would what I call make the couch at night.

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Story A: So before going to bed, we brush all the cushions

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Story A: from left to right so it looks all uniform, and

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Story A: then we would make sure that every pillow is at

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Story A: a right angle, make sure the throw blanket is folded

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Story A: just properly and draped over the chaise lounge so it

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Story A: looks like it would be ready to be photographed for

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Story A: a catalog. It had to be perfect every night. Still

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Story A: do that to this day, so obviously a handprint would

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Story A: stand out to me. When I walked into the living

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Story A: room the next day and I saw it, I immediately thought,

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Story A: that is not my hand. And what made it even

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Story A: more strange it was upside down. It definitely was not

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Story A: that way the night before. The couch was right up

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Story A: against the wall. In order to make that upside down print,

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Story A: you either had to be standing behind the couch, or

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Story A: you'd have to be climbing down from the ceiling, like

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Story A: somebody crawled down the wall and onto the couch. It's

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Story A: too small to be my hand, and Mario and I

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Story A: are the same height, we have the same shoe size,

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Story A: we have about the same size hand. This is not

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Story A: either of our handprint. The more I looked at it,

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Story A: I realized that the thumb of that hand looked more

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Story A: like a claw, like long fingernail.

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Story A: A ghost could be a former loved one, a relative,

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Story A: a friend who died, But this is more like an

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Story A: otherworldly thing that was not formally human, like a demon.

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Story A: That was scary.

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Story A: Unlike the locking doors and the flickering lights, the iPod thing,

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Story A: the notepad thing, and the claw on the couch, those

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Story A: were scary because it was a physical representation of something

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Story A: that I could not explain. After selling the house, I

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Story A: was very tempted to reach out to the new buyers.

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Story A: I wanted so badly to ask them if they ever

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Story A: had any ghostly experiences. It would be a weird conversation

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Story A: to have, "Hey, by the way, I'm pretty sure that

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Story A: house is haunted."

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Therésa: Okay, Well, I guess I'm just gonna say what we're

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Therésa: all thinking. Elmer hated the smokers. But in his defense,

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Therésa: I would have made a fuss about the constant Nine

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Therésa: Inch Nails too. A much more Mario speed J Lo, Adele.

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Therésa: Funny story, I actually got kind of tight with Jenny

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Therésa: Lopez in line for the bathroom at the Chateau Marmont.

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Therésa: She asked if I was waiting, and I was like yeah,

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Therésa: and then she smiled, and I let her cut. God,

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Therésa: she's really got the voice, face, and ass of an angel.

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Therésa: Okay, Naomi, Naomi, whoo, sorry, Jesus, that's getting old. Okay,

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Therésa: in most cultures, he was just a guy and a

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Therésa: NEPO baby at that. Whatever, before Naomi spontaneously combusts, our next haunty hunter, haunty, haunty,

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Therésa: is taking us all the way back to 1989 ,

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Therésa: the same year my dad got out of prison the

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Therésa: low security. His tennis game was never better.

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Story B: I lived there about six years, people thought the place was haunted.

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Story B: It was secluded and spooky and kind of falling down.

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Story B: I would hear footsteps and stuff, but I wasn't really

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Story B: afraid of it. I had other things that happened to

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Story B: this experience with my mother in law was so definitive

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Story B: to me. I always kind of loved horror stories, but

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Story B: after that, it made it so much more a reality.

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Story B: My name is KD, and one night along the road

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Story B: in the dark, my deceased mother in law saved my life.

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Story B: It was 1989, my marriage was not good. I've left

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Story B: my husband, stayed with my mom for a short period

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Story B: of time, and then I found this advertisement in a

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Story B: It has a big mansion on the shore of Lake Erie,

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Story B: where this doctor and his wife lived. It was built

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Story B: in the late eighteen hundreds. It was a very rich

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Story B: part of town. The estate was probably fifteen acres. There

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Story B: was a mansion and the carriage house and a little

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Story B: road that cut across. I was really eager to be

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Story B: I was young and brave, and I was like, "Okay, yeah,

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Story B: I'm going to do this. This is really cool." The

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Story B: It was secluded and spooky and kind of falling down

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Story B: hearing that she did not want to live in the

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Story B: I don't know, but I don't know didn't bother me.

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Story B: I had things that happened to me in that house

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Story B: afraid of it. Other people had experiences too. I had

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Story B: and then he didn't come over, and I couldn't get a

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Story B: And then he just leaves, just turned around and leaves.

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Story B: He doesn't even answer the phone when he goes home,

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Story B: but I'm calling him, you know? He's like, he goes...

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Story B: I was so freaked out he goes, I just, I

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Story B: just went home and like drank a beer and went to bed. He swore he

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Story B: And then like two months later, I was at a

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Story B: friend's house and I'm driving home and it's twelve o'clock

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Story B: my house. I see this figure standing by the side

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Story B: of the road. It was the clothes that was really

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Story B: the weird part, you know, you see the grim Reaper

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Story B: with the scythe and everything. Honest to god, it looked like that. All dressed

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Story B: in black and baggy and like a shawl, like you

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Story B: put a shawl over your head, you know? I don't

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Story B: know what's going on, but I'm driving very very slow,

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Story B: and this figure just kind of looks up at me

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Story B: and it was my deceased ex-mother- in- law.

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Story B: It was about three years that she'd been passed, but

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Story B: I swear it was my mother in law. It was

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Story B: my mother in law's face, and she just kind of

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Story B: lifted up her hand, not like waving at me to stop,

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Story B: but kind of like, "hi, here I am."

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Story B: I was so scared I just accelerated the car. When

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Story B: I got to the end of the road, I thought,

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Story B: what if that was my mother- in- law and what

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Story B: if there's something she wants to tell me? So I thought,

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Story B: I'm gonna turn around and go back and look. But

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Story B: I didn't turn around. What I did was I just

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Story B: took left turns in a big square. That area was

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Story B: I went down the road again. But there was nothing there.

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Story B: There was no sign that anybody had been there. Nobody's

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Story B: I was so scared at that point, I didn't want

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Story B: to really go home, and there's nobody I want to

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Story B: wake up at like 1:15 or whatever it was. So I thought,

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Story B: I'll go to the Greek diner, like three or four

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Story B: miles away, and I'll just sit there and I'll have

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Story B: a cup of coffee and i'll just, you know, I'll

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Story B: I had some coffee, and I said, well, you don't

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Story B: really know, and maybe you're imagining things, and maybe that

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Story B: took them home. You know, you try and talk yourself

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Story B: a half an hour or forty five minutes, and then

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Story B: I went home. I'm still thinking about seeing my dead

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Story B: mother in law on the side of the road waving

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Story B: at me. I drove into the estate, and I drove

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Story B: see that there's something wrong with my door. The door's

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Story B: The door is cracked in half horizontally almost, and all

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Story B: the glass is broken out of it, and my house

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Story B: had been broken into.

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Story B: At that point, everything about my mother in law is

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Story B: driven out of my head. You know how they tell you should never go

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Story B: even think of that. It's like one thirty, two o'clock

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Story B: by now. I just went into the house. Besides the

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Story B: I called the police and they came over, but they

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Story B: never found anybody.

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Story B: Eventually I figured out that there was a few items

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Story B: of my clothing missing, a big knife and a jarful

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Story B: of change missing. A few days later I found a crowbar, like,

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Story B: had been thrown off to the side. It landed over

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Story B: where the stables were. I think that that's what they

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Story B: used to pry open my door. And it was very upset.

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Story B: I lived in this place, it was very isolated. If

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Story B: I had gone home and there was a violent person there,

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Story B: I mean, I would have been in trouble. I could

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Story B: And then I remembered my mother in law at the

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Story B: possible that my mother in law had been trying to

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Story B: save me from whatever it was."

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Story B: With age, you get more accepting of things that you

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Story B: can't figure out. When you're young, you have to have

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Story B: an answer for everything or it's just going to drive

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Story B: you insane. But I think when you get older, it's like,

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Story B: maybe what I get out of the experience is more

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Story B: important than being able to explain it. If I could

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Story B: go back and I saw my dead mother- in- law

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Story B: standing there, I would stop the car and I would

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Therésa: Okay, dramatically draped black shaw and matching hood sounds couture to me.

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Therésa: You say Grim Reaper; I say 2015 Comme des Garçons Fall / Winter collection.

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Therésa: But what I love about this story is that it

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Therésa: breaks the mother-in- law's are monster's stereotype, which is so important

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Therésa: these days. Well, maybe she's a monster in the literal sense,

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Therésa: but she sounds otherwise chill to me. Kind of like Naomi.

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Therésa: It's not her fault that the small demonic smudge on

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Therésa: her ethereal soul burns at the mention of anything holy.

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Therésa: It's not because she's bad. She's just sensitive, and that's okay. Anyway,

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Therésa: that's all we've got for you this week. If you

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Therésa: or anyone you know has had any dust stops with

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Therésa: the undead, write to us via email at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com. We'd

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Therésa: love to share your scare. Oh, and hit us up in the comments with your craziest mother-in-law stories, and I'll haunt the

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Therésa: shit out of whoever's is the worst. Just kidding, well,

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Therésa: maybe I will. Okay, Love you always and see you

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Therésa: next Eternal Twilight for more Haunting.

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