Speaker 1: Hopefully people can pick up the pieces all across the
Speaker 1: country and start figuring out how to do this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy hard, you know. I just need
Speaker 1: a lot of people giving back basically and enjoying it.
Speaker 1: How good does that sound? This is good? This is good.
Speaker 1: Hairs hair Colls, Hair Coulls. Hold Hold one fifth Hold
Speaker 1: Wilson eight Yard Park. Three. You can't make this all.
Speaker 1: You can't make it off. Put another log on the
Speaker 1: fire nobody hears. Give the time. Welcome to the fire
Speaker 1: pit with Matt Janella. It's the fourth annual Wishbone Brawl
Speaker 1: at goat Hill Park in Oceanside, California. It's Saturday, November
Speaker 1: and it's a perfect afternoon for tournament golf at a
Speaker 1: yard part municipal where everyone in the community is committed
Speaker 1: to the vibe of world class for the working class
Speaker 1: classes at the core of the Wishbone Brawl, which was
Speaker 1: an idea Dean Wilson pitched to John Ashworth five years ago.
Speaker 1: Four players, two teams, best ball and skins per Simmon Woods,
Speaker 1: kids as caddies, no ropes, dogs encouraged. Great attitudes are
Speaker 1: mandatory and all money raised goes to support Junior Golf.
Speaker 1: A quick history in Wilson, who lives in San Diego
Speaker 1: and has invested in goat Hill Park, teamed up with
Speaker 1: Xander Shaffley, who grew up playing in San Diego and
Speaker 1: played for San Diego State. They beat Charlie Hoffman and
Speaker 1: Chris Riley, who were un l V teammates and now
Speaker 1: both live in San Diego. Brawl to Wilson brought his
Speaker 1: friend Mike Weir and they beat Shofley and Hoffman in well.
Speaker 1: Jeff Ogilvie, paired with Riley, had the walk off ace
Speaker 1: from a hundred and thirty three yards on the ninth
Speaker 1: hole in a sudden death playoff against Wilson and Shofly
Speaker 1: was canceled due to COVID, but this year the brawl
Speaker 1: was back, bigger and better than ever. Due to a
Speaker 1: fast flood of early interest, Ashworth had to close ticket
Speaker 1: sales on Tuesday before the Saturday event, having had roughly
Speaker 1: four people in the gallery in it was looking like
Speaker 1: there would be more than a thousand. Our team at
Speaker 1: Firepit Collective partnered with the production company of Cuney Pearson
Speaker 1: to go live on link soul dot com. The edited
Speaker 1: version of the broadcast, as well as other perspectives on
Speaker 1: the day, can now be found at fire Pit Collective
Speaker 1: dot com. In this podcast, you'll get some of the
Speaker 1: best action and reaction, added perspective and reflections from players,
Speaker 1: caddies and people in the crowd. Shaffley and Wilson are
Speaker 1: paired together again and today they're playing against Fred Couples
Speaker 1: and Will Crop. Here's John Ashworth, the man responsible for
Speaker 1: saving Goat Hill Park ten years ago, on how an
Speaker 1: event like this comes together and how it has grown
Speaker 1: over the years. I mean, there's definite thought that goes
Speaker 1: into it, but it's, uh, it's just like the event itself.
Speaker 1: It's pretty loose. There's no rope and you know, uh
Speaker 1: we kind of go with the flow, which was our
Speaker 1: theme this year. Let's just go with the flow and
Speaker 1: uh and not a lot of restrictions. And it just
Speaker 1: seemed to come out amazing. I mean it was I'm
Speaker 1: still buzzing, you know, I was just going through Morgan's
Speaker 1: photos and you know it was everybody's just smiling. Here
Speaker 1: the ere the whole day, you know, the gallery, the caddies,
Speaker 1: the players that you know, unbelievable. And here's shortly after
Speaker 1: the round with his perspective on the evolution of the
Speaker 1: Wishbone Brawl. It's unbelievable. I mean, I think this is
Speaker 1: sort of what we all envisioned. We just didn't really
Speaker 1: know how it was gonna come come to and um
Speaker 1: with COVID it was sort of a major setback of
Speaker 1: sort of what we you know, it's one down year
Speaker 1: of of nothingness. So it's it's awesome to see that
Speaker 1: everyone was excited to come back. We had you know,
Speaker 1: triple or quadruple to turn out the normal, and it
Speaker 1: makes it so much more exciting for us to sort
Speaker 1: of playing front everyone and have everyone's rounding the greens
Speaker 1: and walking with us, sort of exactly what the wish
Speaker 1: bon ball is all about. The Ryder Cup is with
Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup is, but this also can happen and
Speaker 1: it can be something that brings people to the game,
Speaker 1: right It's I mean, this is more likely going to
Speaker 1: bring people to the game versus a Ryder Cup. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: This is how this is how it is. This is
Speaker 1: easy to do, it's quicker, it's more affordable, and so
Speaker 1: you know, it is our duty to sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: get as many youngsters to play and some of the
Speaker 1: Wishbon Ball. You know, I had a kid sort of
Speaker 1: walking by my ball and eighteen didn't even I was
Speaker 1: just in the crowd and he was just looking around,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, really walking right through my line.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's literally what the tourments about.
Speaker 1: And it's so awesome to see everyone just kind of
Speaker 1: cruising around. Fred Couples was cruising around goad Hill Park
Speaker 1: for the first time. Here he is after the round,
Speaker 1: on his relationship with Xander, playing Per Simmons and making
Speaker 1: his debut at the Wishbone Brawl. X and Patrick Cantley
Speaker 1: and I at the Ryder Cup. We had a great time.
Speaker 1: I was there, kind of guy in their pod, so
Speaker 1: I saw him hit every shot. Um An, Elexander is
Speaker 1: one hell of a player, and so for him to
Speaker 1: come out here and show his stuff, get a lot
Speaker 1: of people to come out support the event and watch
Speaker 1: him play, and then myself included. But I can't really
Speaker 1: say enough about you know, I was a good player
Speaker 1: when I was thirty years old. These guys are They
Speaker 1: just hit the ball a lot differently, um and you
Speaker 1: can tell, you know, they're stronger, they hit it further.
Speaker 1: The equipments better. But I do get a little chuckle
Speaker 1: when I see them looking at these clubs that I
Speaker 1: used to use and they just don't understand because all
Speaker 1: they've seen is metal woods. Um. But it was fun.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the whole day. We're getting to the day,
Speaker 1: but first, how all of this comes together is always
Speaker 1: a bit of a puzzle. Ashworth builds the event around
Speaker 1: shoff Lee's holiday schedule. Once the date was set, Dean
Speaker 1: was in Riley and Hoffman were going to be out
Speaker 1: of town, so Ashworth considered Couples who he has known
Speaker 1: for thirty five years. Ashworth sent couples of text on
Speaker 1: Friday September. It was funny because he didn't get back
Speaker 1: to me right away and so he I felt like
Speaker 1: he was kind of ghost in me and uh And
Speaker 1: I think it was about three weeks later I got
Speaker 1: a text from him out of the blue that said,
Speaker 1: not sure how I missed this text, but I just
Speaker 1: found it. Give me a few days to see where
Speaker 1: I'm at. It's a Saturday. And then he said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I talked to X. I'm in. I will definitely be
Speaker 1: there in November. So Couples was in. As for crop
Speaker 1: who was an All American at Oklahoma and has been
Speaker 1: grinding it out and occasionally winning on some mini tours.
Speaker 1: He tells his story about how he found Goat Hill
Speaker 1: Park and ultimately ended up as the fourth and this
Speaker 1: year's Wishbone Brawl before we hear from Will you should Know.
Speaker 1: Peter Beams is commonly referred to as the Professor, a
Speaker 1: former European tour player, he's done books with Gary Player,
Speaker 1: has a savant like approach to the swing and the game,
Speaker 1: and is often seen at Goat giving tips to kids
Speaker 1: or struggling adults. I met Peter Beams on the beach
Speaker 1: and it was right when COVID started, and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: you should go volunt you should go pick the range
Speaker 1: of Sydney. So I just started May started coming out here.
Speaker 1: My wife and I knew nobody in North County, nobody
Speaker 1: in San Diego. We just started. Um. We just knew
Speaker 1: we loved it here. We knew we love the weather,
Speaker 1: we knew we loved being by the ocean, and we
Speaker 1: just said, hey, if we're gonna make it, we'll just
Speaker 1: keep plugging along. So I started picking the range and
Speaker 1: then started doing the starting all for free and then
Speaker 1: started working in the carts, washing the carts, and then
Speaker 1: started working in the pro shop and now lucky to
Speaker 1: be one of the teachers here at North County. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think this day is so special because
Speaker 1: it's my day to day to help with the kids,
Speaker 1: coach the kids out here, and it's just it's this
Speaker 1: brought so much awareness to that and that's what's so special.
Speaker 1: You meet Peter Beams on the beach. But how does
Speaker 1: that how he's walking with golf club he's walking with
Speaker 1: golf clubs. Yeah, she struck up. I struck up a
Speaker 1: kind of in that about a month into COVID, just
Speaker 1: wanting to see people, you know, just usually probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have said anything, but hey, what are you going to
Speaker 1: play or something? And he said, I'm the head pro
Speaker 1: and go to hill and I said, oh, no way.
Speaker 1: And I kind of had met John before through some
Speaker 1: mutual friends in twenty nineteen, went to the lab and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and I was kind of saying, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of know John. And he goes, well, let
Speaker 1: me tell you. If you want to talk to anybody,
Speaker 1: you talk to me, and you go out and you uh,
Speaker 1: you meet with my friend Sydney and you can pick
Speaker 1: the range, said perfect, I'm in And you had a
Speaker 1: Peter Beams shirt but didn't know that that was Peter Beam. H. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, after the corn Ferry season ended, John
Speaker 1: had gave given me that Peter Beam shirt and I
Speaker 1: had worn it for a whole year before I met him,
Speaker 1: and uh kind of put two and two together, and
Speaker 1: it just seems like fate at this point that I
Speaker 1: was meant to be here for sure. So h Peters
Speaker 1: obviously a legend in his own right, and it was
Speaker 1: awesome to have him out there. But the story, I
Speaker 1: can't make the story up. I can't make it up.
Speaker 1: It's just it's incredible. Having now observed Crop at the
Speaker 1: Goat for over a year, it's as though Beams is
Speaker 1: passing him the baton of playing and teaching the game
Speaker 1: with a focus on feel, fun and spirituality. I mean,
Speaker 1: golf is my life and it's taught me everything I know,
Speaker 1: and it's just so cool to see somebody like Peter
Speaker 1: Beams who's had a similar journey. He's kind of gone
Speaker 1: through the ranks and just live that golf life and
Speaker 1: it's just so cool to meet him. I think that
Speaker 1: you hit on a perfect point. That the Goat Hill,
Speaker 1: the top of this hill, it's an energy vortex, it's
Speaker 1: it draws people in. And um, I'm excited for the
Speaker 1: future of Goad Hill. I'm excited for the future of
Speaker 1: North County. I'm excited for all of it. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's just this is just the start of something
Speaker 1: super special. People like you coming in. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable. I can't even And then to top
Speaker 1: it off with today and I just couldn't draw a
Speaker 1: better script. It's incredible to crops point, it was a
Speaker 1: compelling script and an incredible day. But before we get
Speaker 1: to the first t shots, we want to thank link Soul,
Speaker 1: who's a sponsor of a lot of what we do
Speaker 1: here at fire Pit Collective, the lifestyle brand started by
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Speaker 1: push card, which I believe is the best out there.
Speaker 1: And for me, it's not even close. What was close
Speaker 1: was wish Bone Brow. Who better to lead us into
Speaker 1: the opening ceremony than John Ashworth? So as far as
Speaker 1: the match goes, So yeah, so you know, I'm always
Speaker 1: again nervous, and we got to go on the first
Speaker 1: tea and there's the crowds filling in and we know
Speaker 1: there's going to be at least a thousand people and
Speaker 1: shure enough, I mean there was at least a thousand
Speaker 1: people there and everyone's were making our way over to
Speaker 1: the first team and you know, you and I are
Speaker 1: doing a little dog and pony over there. And I
Speaker 1: will tell you that in all the places I've been
Speaker 1: and all the places I've seen as I've traveled the
Speaker 1: world of golf, and golf destinations. Uh, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say that golf courses can boast the idea that every
Speaker 1: day for the last seven years, this golf course has
Speaker 1: gotten better and that's really because of John Ashworth, his
Speaker 1: commitment to the community, his vision and if and if
Speaker 1: you think that he's just the visionary behind it, if
Speaker 1: you come out here late afternoon as the sun's going down,
Speaker 1: the guy with the shovel with the flatbed making his
Speaker 1: way down the maintenance shed is John Ashworth. So let's
Speaker 1: give it up for the caretaker of goat Hill Park.
Speaker 1: John Ashworth. Thanks you, he's on. Hey. I just want
Speaker 1: to welcome everybody here to goat Hill Park. This is
Speaker 1: an amazing event for such a good cause. You know,
Speaker 1: a little backstory. This place has been around since nineteen two.
Speaker 1: It was originally a nine hole golf course and it
Speaker 1: was way before the five freeway went in, so it's
Speaker 1: been around a while. Uh. It was rerouted into an
Speaker 1: eighteen hole golf course in the late eighties and it
Speaker 1: fell on hard times about ten years ago and the
Speaker 1: city was put an RFP a request for proposal out
Speaker 1: to a big, big time developers. So this was going
Speaker 1: to be condos and strip malls and all that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. We had just started Link Soul down on
Speaker 1: the Coast Highway and and my partner, co founder Jeff
Speaker 1: Cunningham of Link Soul and goad Hill Park, we said,
Speaker 1: you know, we can't just sit back and watch that happen.
Speaker 1: So we put our own proposal in to save Goat
Speaker 1: Hill Park cleaning up, make it the home of the
Speaker 1: North County Junior Golf Uh, put in a little kids
Speaker 1: course over there that's free for kids, and uh and
Speaker 1: here we are, you know, ten years later. So thanks
Speaker 1: to them, you, my wife and I moved from Orlando
Speaker 1: to San Diego in November. We're incredibly grateful to be
Speaker 1: benefiting from the camaraderie and the commitment to all that's
Speaker 1: good about golf and life. Our kids are growing up
Speaker 1: learning from people like Ashworth, Beams, Crop Wilson, the Stocktons,
Speaker 1: Guy Burgers, watching legends like Kelly Slater, Byron Scott and
Speaker 1: Bill Murray who occasionally show up and tee it up
Speaker 1: at the Goat on any given day. But as for
Speaker 1: who's teeing it up on this day, we go back
Speaker 1: out to the first team. Dean Wilson obviously, winner on
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour twenty one top tens. He had six
Speaker 1: wins on the Japanese Tour, two of those were majors.
Speaker 1: He's in both the Hawaii and Las Vegas Golf Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and he's two time winner of the Wishbone Brawl.
Speaker 1: Dean Wilson coming out of DA Caddean for Dean will
Speaker 1: be Ethan Lee. Ethan is a freshman at the College
Speaker 1: of Palomar. Ethan has been a stalwart out here and
Speaker 1: UH and an anchor to the caddy program. He's an
Speaker 1: amazing kid. His low round here at god Hill Park
Speaker 1: is sixties seven. Come out out, Ethan. This is Ethan Leon.
Speaker 1: Finding out he was in as a caddy at this
Speaker 1: year's brawl. So I found out from from John. I
Speaker 1: asked him, who's gonna caddy for the Wishbone and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about putting you your sisters in Cayden, And
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, that's that's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun for sure, And I was very thankful that
Speaker 1: he chose us and and Kate and out of all
Speaker 1: the other caddies. Partnering with Dean is UH gold medal
Speaker 1: winner four time winner on the PGA Tour recent Ryder
Speaker 1: cover where he had a record of three and one. Uh.
Speaker 1: He is San Diego's own Xander Shoply. Xander is a
Speaker 1: one time winner of the Wishbone Brawl. He's got as
Speaker 1: many wishbones as gold medals. That's cold, man, that's cold.
Speaker 1: It's just the facts. Caddying for Xander is Cade Fisher.
Speaker 1: He's a junior at Carl's Bad High, plays one or
Speaker 1: two on that team. Again, another one of the great
Speaker 1: kids out here in the caddy program. Cade's low round
Speaker 1: at goad Hill Park is even part. Here's Cade Fisher
Speaker 1: on finding out he was in as a caddy. I'd
Speaker 1: say probably like a month ago. I somebody told me
Speaker 1: that I possibly have the chance to do it, and
Speaker 1: so I got kind of excited over that. And then
Speaker 1: but like only the monday before I think you were there. Uh,
Speaker 1: John Ashliff came up and he was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: got you a spot on the bag. And I didn't
Speaker 1: know who yet until like the day of, but that's
Speaker 1: when I found out that I was cattying. And I
Speaker 1: don't really I just wanted to carry like that was
Speaker 1: super cool to be able to have that opportunity. And
Speaker 1: then so I found out that Monday and I found
Speaker 1: out that I was cattying for Xander Um like while
Speaker 1: we were doing the pick up around the course, so
Speaker 1: like two or three hours before the event started, and
Speaker 1: what do you think? Oh my gosh, I was so excitedly,
Speaker 1: I don't think the smile left my face for like
Speaker 1: two hours, like because I think one of the least
Speaker 1: sisters actually told me and I was like, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: that's just insane, perfect scenario. Oh yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: Cage's father is an F thirty five pilot in the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps based here in Mirror, Maor how about a
Speaker 1: round of applause for K's falling. Second team will be
Speaker 1: led by local boy Will Crop, captain at Oklahoma, turned
Speaker 1: pro and he's one on the Adams Tour, the Latin
Speaker 1: American Tour. He played on the web dot Com Tour
Speaker 1: Will Crop, Will Crop the ladies. John here's the current
Speaker 1: gold Hill Park Club champion. As John said, he owns
Speaker 1: the course record at ten under par. Expect good things
Speaker 1: that are will and that was with the Percentam was yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was with Per Simmon to write with Per Simmons,
Speaker 1: that's the only way to get the official course record
Speaker 1: is your christ. Caddying for Will is annabel Lee. Annabel
Speaker 1: Lee fifteen years old Annabelle. Annabelle's a sophomore in high school.
Speaker 1: Her low round out here at god Hill Park is
Speaker 1: also annabel You had Will Crop, Yeah, and what did
Speaker 1: you think when you found out you were caddying? Well,
Speaker 1: I was not too surprised because I've kind for him before,
Speaker 1: like during the hundred Ahle hikes, so I kind of
Speaker 1: knew like what clubs he would hit or like just
Speaker 1: how he would act, So I was kind of prepared. Actually,
Speaker 1: kind of an odd set of circumstances for me and
Speaker 1: probably a lot of people in the crowd. Kind of
Speaker 1: your whole life coming full circle growing up being a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Fred Couples wearing ash Worth, pulling up
Speaker 1: the sleeves and now here I'm standing on the first
Speaker 1: team introducing the Masters Champion, fifteen time winner on the
Speaker 1: PGA to two time players championte time on the Champions
Speaker 1: Show World Hall of Favor Couples Caddy and for Freddie
Speaker 1: is Aida League. Aida and Annabelle are twin sisters. You
Speaker 1: might have guessed. Ada, also a sophomore admission Vista High School.
Speaker 1: Her low score out here is sixty eight. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Ethan is the older brother to Aida and
Speaker 1: Annabelle and their father, Tony, is a retired police officer
Speaker 1: for the San Diego Police Department. What did you think
Speaker 1: when you found out you were going to caddy for
Speaker 1: Fred Couples? I was, actually I was also very surprised
Speaker 1: because I knew he was really big back like when
Speaker 1: my dad was I was younger, and when a lot
Speaker 1: of the adults were there, like people kept saying that
Speaker 1: he was like the tagger Woods of their generation. So
Speaker 1: I was like really surprised and excited, mhm, and excited,
Speaker 1: very excited. Observing the competition today is the Professor Peter
Speaker 1: Beams Uh, former European tour player, absolute living legend. Actually
Speaker 1: met Will Crop on a beach one day and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you should go check out goad Hill Park. That's why
Speaker 1: Will Crop is here and he is now playing in
Speaker 1: this event. Peter Beams is a bit of the spiritual
Speaker 1: guide in the heart and soul to goad Hill Park,
Speaker 1: and you appreciate him. He'll be observing today's competition. He
Speaker 1: will be Uh observing the coin toss so why don't
Speaker 1: we give Zander the option of calling the coin heads tales?
Speaker 1: It is Fred Couples will Crop on the first team.
Speaker 1: Please let the games begin. So here they are the
Speaker 1: first shots in order, Will Crop, Fred Couples, Xander Shotley,
Speaker 1: then Dean Wilson. The sweet sound of Persimmons's as good
Speaker 1: as it gets shot before there we go. That we
Speaker 1: go and they're off. Four players, kids as caddies, no ropes.
Speaker 1: Here's Ashworth on course conditions, and we tried to set
Speaker 1: the course up pretty easy. We want to see a
Speaker 1: lot of Birdie's right. But the first hope we kind
Speaker 1: of we tucked the pin in the back on the
Speaker 1: first hope, which isn't an easy pin placement. Nobody got
Speaker 1: it close. Um and Fred made about a up the
Speaker 1: hill to get things gone. Just boom right out of
Speaker 1: the gate, bam, Fred makes a birdie, Fred Couples for
Speaker 1: Birdie and hid a nice three girls. After having the
Speaker 1: second hole with Pars, it was Wilson who had the
Speaker 1: last look at Bertie on the short part four third
Speaker 1: hole teen. Notorious for binding one of the best putters
Speaker 1: on tour again had six wins on the Japanese Tour
Speaker 1: won the Sprint International. Makes Bertie here at three parted,
Speaker 1: and this match is all square after a bunch of
Speaker 1: irons into the fairway at the par four fourth, which
Speaker 1: has one of the toughest greens to hold on the
Speaker 1: course and is protected by an extreme slope that funnels
Speaker 1: down into a large grass bowl in front of the green.
Speaker 1: We go to Xander's approach shot. It looks really good,
Speaker 1: got the wind hit it right as it got a
Speaker 1: lot of spin stopped. There is a swell and it's
Speaker 1: the over and take it. The goat, the goat. Take
Speaker 1: What's what's that called? What's that called? Xander? God? To
Speaker 1: get goaded is when you miss in the wrong spot
Speaker 1: and paid dearly for it. Now we're around the fourth green.
Speaker 1: Couples has a ten footer for Bertie shockly hit the
Speaker 1: cup with his chip. He is in for a par.
Speaker 1: Wilson is up chipping from just off the greens for Bertie.
Speaker 1: It's Dan Wilson chips in, called Birdie. Now Freddie has
Speaker 1: gotta make it of tidy. After Wilson chips in, Couples
Speaker 1: makes his putt. They're all square going into the fifth.
Speaker 1: Here's Kade Fisher. Xander's caddy. After the fourth green five,
Speaker 1: as we're walking up, I was like, I was telling Xander.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, on this whole, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the hole in one pin position. And he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I remember I remember someone saying that. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, so if it's gonna happen, it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna happen here. And then you go on the
Speaker 1: te He hits his and we thought he was a
Speaker 1: really good ball, but it ended up being a little
Speaker 1: bit short. And here's Ethan Lee Wilson's caddy. So the
Speaker 1: yard it was, it was one five yards. Um, there
Speaker 1: wasn't much wine, a little bit helping win. Um dean
Speaker 1: one do you wanted to pull out the night? So
Speaker 1: we pulled the eight out. Here's Ashworth with his reflections
Speaker 1: on five. We get up on five tea, it's all
Speaker 1: square and then uh, Zander hits a really good one
Speaker 1: right at the spot that you want to hit too.
Speaker 1: You we obviously put the hole in one pin, and
Speaker 1: you know when we were setting the pins, you know,
Speaker 1: I was out there with Wardy and we were really
Speaker 1: we had this two foot radius that we put you know,
Speaker 1: we went back and forth on the exact perfect spot
Speaker 1: for a hole in one, because you want to see
Speaker 1: a hole in one if you could. But you're just
Speaker 1: dreaming at that point, right, I mean, come on, it's
Speaker 1: still still a hundred and fifty yards. So xanderd comes
Speaker 1: up short and I remember, staying on the t I go, well,
Speaker 1: that's the hole on once. But something's gonna happen, you know,
Speaker 1: Boom and then the next shot, Dean, how good does
Speaker 1: that sound? This is good? This is good? This has
Speaker 1: hold hold one fifth Wilson holding. We've had a chip
Speaker 1: in and a hole in one. Other than that, not
Speaker 1: much happening in the first five holes in the wrist on.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many hold ones? Is that for somebody? Eleventh?
Speaker 1: Eleventh holding one? How many holding ones at the goat
Speaker 1: have my first? That's your first first, Dean Wilson's first
Speaker 1: at Goat Hill Park. It's amazing, of course, time, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, thank god, unbelievable. What do you remember about fifteen? Oh?
Speaker 1: It was holding super loud after he hold it, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they all had great shots afterwards. It was super loud.
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought when I had gone to
Speaker 1: the teams, like, this is a hole in one pin? Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's what I said. It was a hole in one right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy to chance to do che hole in one.
Speaker 1: That is the hole in one pin place. It can't
Speaker 1: be too surprised. R I kind of called this, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I mean, I said, hey, that's
Speaker 1: a holy one pin on the tea and boom, swish, swish. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: This is a hundred forty eight yards and uh, you
Speaker 1: know a little breeze behind here. We go on to six.
Speaker 1: After the t shots on the sixth hole, I had
Speaker 1: time to walk with red couples. First impressions of Goat
Speaker 1: Hill Park. I love it. You know, only handful of
Speaker 1: people know. I grew up at Jefferson Park in Seattle
Speaker 1: and we used to call it Jeffmont after Oakmont, and uh,
Speaker 1: it played really hard and fun and I'm a public
Speaker 1: golfer and I love this place. First time. I love it.
Speaker 1: John Ashworth a get a long time relationship. When you
Speaker 1: hear about John doing good for the community and investing
Speaker 1: all of these proceeds back into kids and Caddy Academy
Speaker 1: is probably not a surprise to You've given what you
Speaker 1: know of Johnson. No, and I'm embarrassed that I haven't
Speaker 1: come down here. John has a couple of friends that
Speaker 1: we we both know when they've come down a both times.
Speaker 1: And I don't play a whole lot of golf, but
Speaker 1: I'll be coming back here. But John Ashworth is a
Speaker 1: good man, his whole family, and like you said, he
Speaker 1: started with Jerry Montiel with Ashworth and you know he
Speaker 1: He's put a lot of dinners on my table Ashworth Golf.
Speaker 1: So it's nice to see and it's a pleasure for
Speaker 1: me to be here. I hope I am invited back
Speaker 1: next year with these guys and enjoy it. I think
Speaker 1: I can speak on behalf of John and the rest
Speaker 1: of Oceanside and go to Hill Park and say that
Speaker 1: you're invited. I'm gonna go out on a limb there,
Speaker 1: go get him. Freddie, thank you. Xander was the only
Speaker 1: one to bertie the sixth hole. Shoffly and Wilson go
Speaker 1: to up walking to the seventh green. I had time
Speaker 1: to talk with golf's gold medalist. I'll tell you in
Speaker 1: the Wishbone brawls of the past, it's probably been one
Speaker 1: third or one fourth the amount of people out here.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing to watch this grow organically and authentically
Speaker 1: to Mini municipal, especially after John Ashvill has put so
Speaker 1: much work into the golf course over the course the
Speaker 1: last two years. Xander, do you can recognize this golf
Speaker 1: course having not been here much in the last two years?
Speaker 1: Is it amazing? It looks it looks great. All all
Speaker 1: the tracks that are put out. You can tell a
Speaker 1: bunch of brand new sauce been laid. Greens are an
Speaker 1: unbelievable shape. It looks, it looks I was gonna say
Speaker 1: it's called goat Hill. We don't we don't want to
Speaker 1: make it too nice, you know what I mean? Going
Speaker 1: hell a country club, Yeah, go to health country. This
Speaker 1: is it's it's hard to believe they charged thirty five
Speaker 1: and forty dollars for green fees out here, right, kids
Speaker 1: had such a reduced rate. I mean that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's why it starts feeling like this is the bleeprint
Speaker 1: for what municipal golf can and shouldn't. Absolutely, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're putting all the all the money in the right places.
Speaker 1: And obviously there's certain individuals working over time to pick
Speaker 1: up some slack where you know, maybe they need some help.
Speaker 1: But you can tell that they've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of hard work just to get it ready for something
Speaker 1: like this, but just for everyone that comes out to play.
Speaker 1: What was your memories of playing junior golf here? I remember, Um,
Speaker 1: I grew up playing with uh to my buddies. Nick Larson,
Speaker 1: he doesn't play golf anymore, and my other friend Rix
Speaker 1: Sugimoto is actually um he's close to leading that the
Speaker 1: japan Ternam don't done law Phoenix right now. It's texting
Speaker 1: him this morning. Funny enough. So I remember just playing,
Speaker 1: getting excited to go out to the course to play
Speaker 1: with my two friends, and we'd always play competitions. I
Speaker 1: remember trying to collect pennies and nickels and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I started. Do you see
Speaker 1: yourself in the faces of these kids around this? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's notice to see everyone just smiling and happy to
Speaker 1: be out here. Yeah, well make him smile a little
Speaker 1: more here, you down here, go to What do you think,
Speaker 1: John Ashworth? You're feeling pretty proud of what's happening here
Speaker 1: today over the moon. Over the moon really, I mean,
Speaker 1: the guys are having a blast, they're hitting a lot
Speaker 1: of good's a great match. The crowds, super mellow and
Speaker 1: in control. And yeah, I feel my stomach starting to
Speaker 1: ease a little bit. I asked Ander if he sees
Speaker 1: himself in the faces of the kids that are surrounding
Speaker 1: these greens. As he grew up playing golf in the
Speaker 1: San Diego as, you've got to feel the same. Oh, absolutely, yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I've played in the North County Junior golf when I
Speaker 1: was in nine year olds, you know, nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1: I hate to age myself, but it's a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Same year the padre started by the lights right, and
Speaker 1: I went to a lot of games too. Back to
Speaker 1: the action, real quick, seventh green couples for Bertie and
Speaker 1: to get back within one. Freddy got a good little
Speaker 1: let's ready couples. That's twice now he had the last
Speaker 1: one down, Freddy, how you get one down? We got
Speaker 1: a lot of golf left, so I mean, what a
Speaker 1: what a match it was? Really? Bam bam bam. You know,
Speaker 1: um crazy, I'm behind fred Couples, whistle and crops. Really
Speaker 1: get us a little insight into how you're feeling right now,
Speaker 1: feeling good. My partner is just getting hot. I'm just
Speaker 1: setting him up and we're just about to run him down.
Speaker 1: How about the fact that Freddie is using the same
Speaker 1: person used to win the ninety two Masters that Augustin
Speaker 1: Abson was playing in the two thousand wish he's a legend.
Speaker 1: What do you expect? I don't expect anything different. They
Speaker 1: have the eighth hole with Bertie's and after their tea
Speaker 1: shots on the ninth I caught up with Peter Beam's.
Speaker 1: What's your take on on the day so far, Professor, Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's a normal goat giving us miracles holes
Speaker 1: and ones. Um, incredible shots. I mean, we're so lucky
Speaker 1: to see Will famous golfer is here and Will is
Speaker 1: keeping his own He's doing great. Um, it's just wonderful.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna win. It's Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen the golf course look as good as it is today,
Speaker 1: professor Um? I just think that we're going to be
Speaker 1: chuckle block in the next couple of days because the
Speaker 1: greens are so perfect. See them rolling as good as
Speaker 1: as as good as Augusta. You hearing it here first,
Speaker 1: the professor, the greens here at go Hill Park are
Speaker 1: as good as that the greens at Augusta. And he
Speaker 1: might not be wrong. It might not be an exaggeration.
Speaker 1: After having the ninth with Pars, they made the turn,
Speaker 1: Wilson and Shotley were still one up. They both birdied
Speaker 1: the tenth, while Crop and Couples made par So playing
Speaker 1: the eleventh, Couples and Crops are two down. They have
Speaker 1: eleven with a par and on twelve the dog leg
Speaker 1: left par four things got interesting. Xander tried to drive
Speaker 1: the green, taking it over the eucalyptus trees on the
Speaker 1: left and never found it. Freddie got a bad kick
Speaker 1: from the fairway and into a bush on the right.
Speaker 1: Wilson spun his approach shot back off the front of
Speaker 1: the green and into this s wale. Crop ends up
Speaker 1: winning the hole with a par. Back to Ashworth for
Speaker 1: some commentary. The twelve old just the idea that you know,
Speaker 1: amongst those four players and par wins. The whole made
Speaker 1: me feel good about like our matches totally. Yeah, friends,
Speaker 1: Deans short sighted him to you spot it back on
Speaker 1: that it was like, this is like watching us totally totally.
Speaker 1: You know. Another significant point is everybody got goaded during
Speaker 1: the day at some point. You know, you gotta respect
Speaker 1: the goat will could you have ever imagined that you'd
Speaker 1: be partnering with Fred Couples against Sander Schoffley and Dean
Speaker 1: Wilson and playing goat Hill Park. Absolutely not. You know,
Speaker 1: it was only a year ago that I was volunteering
Speaker 1: on the range for free, and I didn't know anybody
Speaker 1: here in San Diego, and now it is surreal. It's
Speaker 1: a win win regardless for me and my wife, and
Speaker 1: we're just so grateful to be here and it is
Speaker 1: a dream come true. Well in behalf of We're grateful
Speaker 1: to have you. So the have the hold with pars
Speaker 1: Crop and Couples are still one down playing the uphill
Speaker 1: and reachable par four hole. Xander was in a little
Speaker 1: trouble off the tea chipped up and made par Crop
Speaker 1: and Couples failed to get up and down for Bertie
Speaker 1: before Wilson had his put for Bertie. I caught up
Speaker 1: with Alan Schipnuk, who was in town writing the game
Speaker 1: story for Firepit Collective dot com. Alan, since your first
Speaker 1: wish bomb it is I'm so stoked to be here.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a fun energy like. This place is
Speaker 1: a time machine. You know, you got no gallery robes,
Speaker 1: the persimmon, just the atmosphere. I feel like I went
Speaker 1: back to you know, I'm watching Ben Hogan and Byron
Speaker 1: Nelson in the fifties or something that's so good. Have
Speaker 1: you heard that Fred Couples is using his driver that
Speaker 1: he used to win the ninety two Masters. I mean,
Speaker 1: how classy is that he had to get it back
Speaker 1: from a collector. It's so great. Wilson makes it birdie
Speaker 1: at fourteen and goes to up more from Ashworth. After
Speaker 1: Wilson and Shotly go two up through fourteen. That was
Speaker 1: a disappointing part for Will and Fred because they were
Speaker 1: both in pretty good shape and they they didn't hit
Speaker 1: good chips at all. Uh So, yeah, they went two
Speaker 1: up there and here's Kate Fisher Shuffle's caddy with the
Speaker 1: strategy going into the finishing stretch. Every single hall from
Speaker 1: like I want to say, fifteen to eighteen, we were like,
Speaker 1: let's just end them. Let's just end him right now,
Speaker 1: That's what we would say. After drives on fifteen, the
Speaker 1: only part five on the course. I had time with
Speaker 1: Dave Emeric, an instructor at goat Hill Park who, along
Speaker 1: with his wife Marcia, run the North County Junior Golf Association.
Speaker 1: The money being raised out here today between the Skins
Speaker 1: game and the online auction and and everything that's happening
Speaker 1: in donations, straight donations. Where's it all going, Dave, Well,
Speaker 1: you know our mission statements keep the golf fun affordable
Speaker 1: at competitive So you know our goals and John and
Speaker 1: I has always going to boards, always bring back tournament
Speaker 1: junior all so that's our goal with all the health
Speaker 1: with sponsors and obviously're gonna do the uh Sanders hopping
Speaker 1: out with the Junior North d Junior Golf Clubhouse right
Speaker 1: and U Clad Academy, and you know it's starting all
Speaker 1: kind of programs so kids can go for green. Right.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. Keep up the great work. Maybe
Speaker 1: just passing it on. That's ad for me in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Pay it forward baby, Thanks David. Between ticket sales, donations
Speaker 1: and the online auction, Wishbone Brawl raised over a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars, an incredible effort by everyone involved.
Speaker 1: Now back to Ashworth for a summary of what happened
Speaker 1: on the fifteen hole where crop Shop, Lee and Wilson
Speaker 1: all made Birdie's. There was some I mean Dean hit
Speaker 1: it probably the best shot of the day on fifteen
Speaker 1: from that right bark next to the eucalyptus tree. He
Speaker 1: had to be two hundred ten yards out, and he
Speaker 1: put it up there in perfect shape. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: of course will hit the green and that There was
Speaker 1: some pretty generous gifts on that hole, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: part of the part of the charm. So at least
Speaker 1: they went to sixteen, you know they had there were
Speaker 1: two down going into sixteen. Sixteenth is the number one
Speaker 1: handicap hole, a true part four that generally plays into
Speaker 1: the wind. The fairway pinches in at about two hundred
Speaker 1: yards and slopes down into a very narrow collection ary
Speaker 1: that's about a hundred yards from an elevated green. They
Speaker 1: all had decent looks at Bertie, but no one converted.
Speaker 1: They have the hole with four pars. Wilson and Shofly
Speaker 1: stay two up with two to play. Yeah, so seventeen
Speaker 1: anything can happen on seventeen. It's a crazy little shot
Speaker 1: and green and everything. Wilson and Shofly were both a
Speaker 1: little long and left of the pin on the seventy
Speaker 1: yard part three seventeen, which would leave them fast and tough.
Speaker 1: Two potts cropping couples would be on a similar line
Speaker 1: below the hole. While walking to the seventeenth green, I
Speaker 1: had more time with couples. Freddie, you're almost got your
Speaker 1: full look at goat Hill Park now I am, and
Speaker 1: your thoughts, well, I think that, uh a, it's very
Speaker 1: fun to play. Be at eight and I were talking
Speaker 1: about you better learn to chip around here because if
Speaker 1: you don't, you're never gonna have a great round because
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of greens that when you don't,
Speaker 1: you're gonna makes so is perfect in the greens are
Speaker 1: as good as honestly as good as country club greens.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're pure. People are making putts in
Speaker 1: our group from everywhere. You can see why a lot
Speaker 1: of high level players end up calling this home and
Speaker 1: playing here quite often, because it just makes you a
Speaker 1: better culture. Yeah no, I mean, you know you're I look.
Speaker 1: I grew up again on a par three course too,
Speaker 1: and nothing like this. I mean we had fools d
Speaker 1: ten to one seventy five, but the greens were teeny
Speaker 1: and so I had more. I would have more fun
Speaker 1: here that we're on a big course if I was
Speaker 1: working in my game, and that's you know if you
Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks off, you come out here
Speaker 1: and you're not zeroed in your irons, you're gonna know
Speaker 1: it when you leave that driver using from that's the
Speaker 1: one you used for the mass it is. It is
Speaker 1: my old McGregor M A D five iomatic. I love it.
Speaker 1: How did that feel when you pulled that? Not good yesterday?
Speaker 1: Did not feel good? Good luck, buddy. Okay, back to
Speaker 1: cade Xander's caddy on the seventeen green. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: had that put up top. We we It was just
Speaker 1: a really hard pots. We didn't stick it super close.
Speaker 1: And then you see fred go and he almost makes
Speaker 1: that butt and then Will goes because he's almost in
Speaker 1: the same spot. Thanks to think the fund of the seven,
Speaker 1: everybody knew wild cop I was gonna do something special
Speaker 1: that they just didn't know to Puck. They don't call
Speaker 1: it a brow for nothing, Zander call that. Let's go.
Speaker 1: We go to the eighteen poll. It's about five yard
Speaker 1: par four, very drivable, small green pines, six off the back,
Speaker 1: six from the right. They'll be gunning four here. The
Speaker 1: place is buzzing, obviously as it should be. Freddy fist
Speaker 1: pumping under the teeth and Will was able to roll
Speaker 1: it in and just grab the right edge and and
Speaker 1: and circle in and uh, that was a huge moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had such support from the crowd, you know,
Speaker 1: the home home crowd was really pulling for for Will,
Speaker 1: and uh, that was a magic moment right there. For sure.
Speaker 1: Give me that scene, give me that read, give me
Speaker 1: you know. So Fred first gave him the read. And
Speaker 1: then when when Will putt, I thought I was low. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he hit it too low. And then it
Speaker 1: barely trickled in. It was a very very sketchle that
Speaker 1: was about a therount, honestly. But then it sunk and
Speaker 1: everyone went crazy. Yeah, and like it's up the hill.
Speaker 1: It's really it's probably one of the harder plucks on
Speaker 1: the course. And he goes up and he drains it,
Speaker 1: and I just like like dropped my head. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's really cool for him. But like, man,
Speaker 1: we almost had him at that moment. I wanted to
Speaker 1: end it. I wanted to end it. Here's another rip
Speaker 1: of the sounds of their Persimmon drivers. It goes crop Couples,
Speaker 1: Shuffly and Wilson after they all hit their tea shots
Speaker 1: short and right of the eighteenth green. We're back out
Speaker 1: to the eighteenth fairway. What do you think this is? Uh,
Speaker 1: this is as good as it gets, you know. Walking
Speaker 1: here with John Ashworth, we two years ago Zandrew Shofley
Speaker 1: walking up this very fair way, one up to Ogilvie
Speaker 1: and rather sorry, one down to Ogilvie and Riley and
Speaker 1: looked over to me and said, hey, how can we
Speaker 1: grow this thing but also maintain the charm of the
Speaker 1: Wishbone Brawl. I think mission accomplished here today. This is
Speaker 1: this might be twelve people, I would say it's in
Speaker 1: that neighborhood. Yeah, definitely north of thousand at this point
Speaker 1: and growing all day. People are storming the gate at
Speaker 1: least a hundred dogs, probably kids. And you've got to
Speaker 1: be proud of all the work that not only you've done,
Speaker 1: but your whole crew, your whole team. The golf course
Speaker 1: looks as good as I've ever seen it. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of the crew here, man. They all care,
Speaker 1: They keep it real. It's you know, it's all about
Speaker 1: to hang up here. Really, I mean it just builds,
Speaker 1: you know, ye builds momentum for the city of course everything.
Speaker 1: What's next, John? Where? How can you keep making this
Speaker 1: place better? We've got a few projects up with sleeves,
Speaker 1: We've got a few more bunkers. We're gonna put it up.
Speaker 1: In the eighteenth green Crop almost dumped his chip and
Speaker 1: it rolled by on the same line as Shoffle in couples.
Speaker 1: After three birdie putts didn't go in once again, it
Speaker 1: was up to will Crop. He'd need the birdie to
Speaker 1: force a playoff, but he finished birdie birdie and played
Speaker 1: more golf. John Ashbury just said, why not? It's a
Speaker 1: fair question, will Crop for more golf. Yeah. The left
Speaker 1: side the Wishbone Brawl is won by Dean Wilson and
Speaker 1: Xander shot verything. Oh my god, what a put partner.
Speaker 1: Right one up. Some post round comments, we'll start with
Speaker 1: the Lee twins, then their brother Ethan, who caddied for
Speaker 1: Dean Wilson, and then we hear from Ashworth again. So
Speaker 1: with Fred's putt, his was only low because he hit
Speaker 1: a little bit short. Goes like a really good line.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it went that short of the hole.
Speaker 1: And then with Wills he actually had a perfect line
Speaker 1: and it didn't turn at the end. It didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was crazy. And then he didn't hit that much harder.
Speaker 1: I still can't believe that didn't go in. It seemed
Speaker 1: like we were right on the edge. It was a
Speaker 1: bit of relief, honestly, it was. Um. It was a
Speaker 1: very long, hard day for sure, and with all the
Speaker 1: people around and everything, and when they when they missed,
Speaker 1: we just knew that it was over and that everyone
Speaker 1: actually just played good. Honestly, it wasn't. It wasn't that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a blowout, for sure. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a hard fought victory. Both Fred and Will had great putts. Uh.
Speaker 1: Will's for some reason just did not come down. And
Speaker 1: I thought his speed was perfect and it should have
Speaker 1: come down, and it just stayed on that top edge
Speaker 1: and and uh and and that was it. Back out
Speaker 1: to the eighteenth Green one more time. Thanks for coming out, man,
Speaker 1: What a great day for golf, What a great day
Speaker 1: for junior golf and the Catty Academy. Again, I can't
Speaker 1: thank each of these guys enough. It's just amazing. You
Speaker 1: guys come out. So I know, the food guys are
Speaker 1: still here. If you guys want to party, you know,
Speaker 1: let's do it. And then to have, you know, at
Speaker 1: the end, have Fred say to you, hey, let me
Speaker 1: have that megaphone. I want to say a few words.
Speaker 1: I was just you know, I just loved it, blown
Speaker 1: away and and and he gave such a nice little
Speaker 1: speech there at the end. All right, I've got one
Speaker 1: thing to end with. We all know John Ashworth, I've
Speaker 1: known him forever. But I want to thank John and
Speaker 1: his crew for getting so many people, forgetting so many
Speaker 1: people that come watch us today. But the main thing
Speaker 1: I will say is you hung out with us for
Speaker 1: eighteen holes. Alexander will tell you we do a lot
Speaker 1: of these and by the tenth hole it's dwindling down
Speaker 1: and dwindling down. But you guys hung out phenomenal crowd.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. I hope to be back
Speaker 1: next year. And then I'll end it with this. My
Speaker 1: partner and I had the best two caddies in San Diego.
Speaker 1: That is the truth. As we get into the reflections
Speaker 1: section of this podcast, and which we'll hear from Ashworth,
Speaker 1: all four players and their caddies, plus some favorite fire pits,
Speaker 1: We'll start with Ashworth on the caddies and what he
Speaker 1: thought about how they conducted themselves that day. I was
Speaker 1: very very proud of all of them. Uh, they all
Speaker 1: did a great job. I think they all. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's got to be an experience that for the rest
Speaker 1: of their life, they're gonna be talking about that and
Speaker 1: dreaming about that. So uh yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: really it was really something really was And uh, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see your little program on this whole thing.
Speaker 1: By the way, how about the fact that you were
Speaker 1: looking and your you know, your fifteen year old sisters
Speaker 1: are over there with Fred Cupp was a will crop.
Speaker 1: It was. It was amazing to see. Honestly. I was
Speaker 1: very proud for them. And even though you did end
Speaker 1: up on top, they did a really good job, I'm sure, um,
Speaker 1: especially for Fred who has never played out there. And
Speaker 1: I know, I know you know as well that they
Speaker 1: also are great caddies and they give really good information
Speaker 1: about the course. Yeah, they're good readers of the greens too,
Speaker 1: And obviously that came into play because Fred made a
Speaker 1: lot of putts and those are not good easy greens
Speaker 1: to make puts on, No they aren't. Right after the round,
Speaker 1: I got some reflections from the four competitors. We start
Speaker 1: with Zander you go off your global you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're winning, You're you're on you know, podiums, getting
Speaker 1: global gold medals. You're what Ryder Cup, you know, partying
Speaker 1: with your teammates. But does it feel like it kind
Speaker 1: of grounds you to come back here and kind of
Speaker 1: remember you remember of course, yeah, you always remember where
Speaker 1: you come from. And um, it is so nice to
Speaker 1: give back, and it is such a feel good thing
Speaker 1: for me. And I'm sure I can speak for you know, Will,
Speaker 1: and you know Will's dedicate himself to this property and
Speaker 1: then Dino as well, and Freddie coming in coming in
Speaker 1: hot now too, So it is so it's so cool
Speaker 1: for us to sort of give back in the position
Speaker 1: we're in. And um, it is, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: just selfishly, it's such a feel good thing for me
Speaker 1: to do number five in the world gold medal winner,
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup married. Now, what's next for you? What? What
Speaker 1: are your goals here? Coming into the new season? A lot?
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a hectic year really, like you said,
Speaker 1: global year for me to travel a lot and pretty
Speaker 1: worn down from it. But um, I was really looking
Speaker 1: forward to this. You've met, you know, it's been two
Speaker 1: years and I'm looking forward the next one. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime, yeah, I can snatch up a major and
Speaker 1: you know, I'd love to walk up and here and
Speaker 1: strolling up here in a green jacket or was some
Speaker 1: sort of massive trophy in front of all these people.
Speaker 1: Well it's safe to say everybody's rooting for you. We
Speaker 1: all are sending, you know, good vibes your way every
Speaker 1: time you tee it up and and just in life
Speaker 1: in general. Thanks for doing what you do man, and
Speaker 1: appreciate it and we'll see you next year. Yeah, keep
Speaker 1: up the good work, Freddie. I mean, what just took
Speaker 1: place here today? Yeah, it was awesome. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew it was a big deal because the little
Speaker 1: X man was texting me telling him here, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a blast. And Will I never met what a partner.
Speaker 1: And then obviously Dean Wilson I've known a long time.
Speaker 1: But the main thing, you know, was John Ashworth and
Speaker 1: you helping, and uh, you know, I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: do much except tell John I'm all in. And one
Speaker 1: of the funniest things is, I mean, and we do
Speaker 1: a lot of these and by the you've seen him
Speaker 1: by the fifteen hold or sixty people watching, and it
Speaker 1: kind of takes a lot of the sting out of it.
Speaker 1: And then my man Will made that bomb on seventeen
Speaker 1: to get us right there and the place went crazy.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I stunked the back nine, I
Speaker 1: did well the front nine, and Will bertie a couple
Speaker 1: of the last five holes to keep us in it.
Speaker 1: But we had a great day. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: What a day? What a day? I can't even put
Speaker 1: into words. It was incredible, incredible Dean was able to
Speaker 1: I mean Dean's the rightfully, so I mean the star
Speaker 1: of the show, and that was awesome. The hole one
Speaker 1: started the day off, and really Freddie's put started the
Speaker 1: day off on the first hole, just straight from a bang,
Speaker 1: and it just kept riding and building from there. So
Speaker 1: it was incredible. Bred couples with your partner, and he
Speaker 1: couldn't have been any nicer, and we just felt like
Speaker 1: we jelled the whole way around. And he was so
Speaker 1: welcoming and just so nice, and he was like playing
Speaker 1: with anybody else, just another guy, and we were just
Speaker 1: trying to take him down and he was so couraging
Speaker 1: and it felt like we had known each other forever,
Speaker 1: and it was I think that's probably one of his
Speaker 1: gifts that he has is to be able to make
Speaker 1: people feel comfortable, and that's why he's a legend in
Speaker 1: his own right. And I was on that wave today
Speaker 1: and it was incredible. Comes down to that put. You
Speaker 1: obviously made seventeen. I'm going Will's birdie, birdie, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have more golf. Yeah, that's what I thought too. That's
Speaker 1: what I thought too. I mean, I thought I dunked
Speaker 1: it on the first shot coming into the green. I
Speaker 1: thought that was going to go in, and then I
Speaker 1: had a great put. I guess nothing you can do
Speaker 1: about that. Just didn't move. Didn't move like they're too
Speaker 1: they're too just slid kind of right off. I put
Speaker 1: it just a tiny bit extra out to the left
Speaker 1: and I hit the perfect put. And sometimes they don't go.
Speaker 1: But today is not about the winner of the loss.
Speaker 1: It's a win win either way. And uh, Dean and
Speaker 1: them were certainly worthy champions, and I think the real
Speaker 1: winners go to Hill in North County. Dean Wilson shot
Speaker 1: a three under sixty two with an ace and at
Speaker 1: least four birdies. Fourth ones in the books unbelievable, right,
Speaker 1: what are great turnout, awesome energy, having Freddie and Xander
Speaker 1: here supporting um everything in the community. It couldn't have
Speaker 1: been a better day. It's it's it just never ceases
Speaker 1: to amaze me. We think after every year we said,
Speaker 1: well that's it, you can't get any bigger or better
Speaker 1: than that. I mean that's after people are still on
Speaker 1: a high from that whole thing. And yet we show
Speaker 1: up here and it's like gold medal, champ Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Master's Champions and then you ace the
Speaker 1: fifth and it will Bertie's it will clutches up at
Speaker 1: the end, and Bertie's uh at fifteen and seventeen to
Speaker 1: send it to the last sole. I mean, it's so exciting,
Speaker 1: you know, really really good they do. You find yourself
Speaker 1: sometimes looking around, seeing yourself in the faces of the
Speaker 1: kids around the ground. Obviously, Yeah, I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: to me, that's what it's all about. I grew up
Speaker 1: at a public course and and I knew what it
Speaker 1: was like to see the pros walk around. I didn't
Speaker 1: miss a Sony Open when I was a kid, and
Speaker 1: and so you know, for John that put this tournament
Speaker 1: together and make it so the kids can walk the
Speaker 1: fairways with Xander and Freddie and and see everything. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's awesome. I don't know, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lost for words there, Maddie. When it go when the
Speaker 1: fifth hole, when the ball disappears, now what what do you? Oh?
Speaker 1: My gosh, pure just craziness, right, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I've I've been there where you hit one and it
Speaker 1: starts to go to the right and you go, come on,
Speaker 1: get in, get in, and it never goes in. And
Speaker 1: then this time it goes in. It's just unbelievable. It's
Speaker 1: truly back to me when someone said, oh, they hit
Speaker 1: that one on the screws, it's actually because they hit
Speaker 1: on the I mean, it's it's turned back the clock time.
Speaker 1: And it feels like, isn't this what it's all about?
Speaker 1: That's to me what it's all about. You know. I
Speaker 1: used to feel a little weird being inside the ropes
Speaker 1: and being so uh divided from the gallery, and and
Speaker 1: and people making sure people stay away from me. It's
Speaker 1: very uneasy, you know. It's like it's like being a
Speaker 1: fish bowl and everybody's watching you and you can't participate
Speaker 1: with them, and then having something like this is just fantastic,
Speaker 1: you know, walking around with with these players, with the kids,
Speaker 1: with the community at a place like this, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: More reflections from Ashworth. I think it would be everything
Speaker 1: that's good in golf and good for golf, you know,
Speaker 1: when you combine pros and junior golf and you know,
Speaker 1: a caddy academy and a local community and everybody's doing
Speaker 1: everything for the right reason. And honestly, for me personally,
Speaker 1: to have Fred, you know, come and be so generous
Speaker 1: and so kind and have such a good time, I
Speaker 1: mean that that's my own person, you know. I I
Speaker 1: go back with him. We were we met each other,
Speaker 1: you know, when we were twenty seven years old, when
Speaker 1: we started, when we started Ashworth together. So I mean
Speaker 1: we're both sixty two. We were born in the month
Speaker 1: of October. You know, we're We've always been good friends.
Speaker 1: Were not super close at I mean, right when he
Speaker 1: showed up and he got out of the car and
Speaker 1: we just had a big hug, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was just I just I mean I got goose umps
Speaker 1: right now, just because I love the guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he's just such a he's such an icon, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's such a he just fits with Goat Hill Park.
Speaker 1: He grew up on a muni like Goat Hill the
Speaker 1: Jefferson Park in Seattle. So I feel like for for
Speaker 1: him it was coming home a little bit and for me,
Speaker 1: for me to have a reunion with him at the
Speaker 1: Goat was just I mean, that was the special thing
Speaker 1: for special sauce for me. I guess you know. Ashworth
Speaker 1: shared the text exchange he had with Freddie after the
Speaker 1: round that day. I just said, you're the best, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for an awesome day, you know heart emoji,
Speaker 1: and he said, Ash, I cannot tell you how much
Speaker 1: fun that was today. First of all, I love X
Speaker 1: Man Dean Wilson, I've known a long time and my
Speaker 1: partner Will what a superstar. The crowds were incredible to
Speaker 1: perfect day. I will be tweeting soon. Fred's tweet at
Speaker 1: Fred Couple's golf the day after the event quote great
Speaker 1: day at the Goat, Dean Wilson's hole in one, Xanders
Speaker 1: Olympic gold medal and lots of money raised for junior golf.
Speaker 1: Fun playing with Will, even though we lost one down.
Speaker 1: Before we get to the player's favorite fire pits. I
Speaker 1: asked a few of the caddies what their lives would
Speaker 1: be like without goat Hill Park. We start with Ethan
Speaker 1: Lee and then Cave Fisher. Go Hill Park has been
Speaker 1: a big part of my life for the last two years, um,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's where I It's basically the only
Speaker 1: spot that I play golf now. Um. But the Caddy
Speaker 1: Academy has been It was very good this year. We
Speaker 1: had a lot more caddies to come out and I
Speaker 1: think that helped with like everyone and growing, growing the
Speaker 1: Caddy Academy was amazing, um. And then teaching all these
Speaker 1: all these high school kids how to caddy that it
Speaker 1: actually improves their like social skills and how they interact
Speaker 1: with anyone really on the golf course and off the
Speaker 1: golf course. Have you seen growth and not only yourself,
Speaker 1: but like in your sisters, Yes, I have. UM. You
Speaker 1: know they were like the last two years ago, Um,
Speaker 1: they were really shy. They didn't really know how to
Speaker 1: talk to people honestly, and they were just you know,
Speaker 1: more introverted. Um. But now after the two years of
Speaker 1: candy that we've done, um, they have a better understanding
Speaker 1: of how to talk to people. How to start conversations
Speaker 1: and you know, basically just talking to people in general.
Speaker 1: What would you do without life and go Hill Park? Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. I started going there, Like
Speaker 1: I started going there when I first moved to there.
Speaker 1: I went like once, didn't come back for a while,
Speaker 1: and then I found out about the candy op opportunity,
Speaker 1: and like from that, I go ho this every day
Speaker 1: and like without that place, I mean, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: half the friends I have here, and then I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have all these relationships with people like you or coach
Speaker 1: coach John or asked for the any of those people.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I've gotten to be around like
Speaker 1: Kelly Slater, Xandra Shopley, Fred Couples, Dean Wilson, all these
Speaker 1: great players and really cool people in the in the world.
Speaker 1: And then without that, I mean, without good Hill, like
Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen. So like it's about so many opportunities
Speaker 1: and then also like experiences that like I'll probably remember
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. And finally I asked
Speaker 1: all four caddies for their biggest takeaway from the day,
Speaker 1: well the whole in one for sure, that was that's
Speaker 1: a big thing that I don't think anyone forget um.
Speaker 1: But it's just watching four great players and all their swings.
Speaker 1: They're all just a little bit different, but they all
Speaker 1: are very good. Um. So just picking it up on
Speaker 1: the little things that they do, um would, I think
Speaker 1: helped me later in my game. I kind of saw
Speaker 1: like how like what golf can do and how it
Speaker 1: can bring so many people together, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people were there, a couple of hundred, and
Speaker 1: then also like the people who were watching, and then
Speaker 1: how people have like that level would come to go
Speaker 1: to hill and like, I just thought it was really
Speaker 1: cool how this is all one big group of people
Speaker 1: and they're all doing it for something other than themselves.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really really cool. What is your
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway, guys? What is what is the thing that
Speaker 1: you think you'll remember for the rest of your life
Speaker 1: about that particular day, in that moment and that opportunity.
Speaker 1: The crowd, the crowd and the whole one was a
Speaker 1: big one too. Yeah. The crowd was like the cheering
Speaker 1: like the first hole when Fred made that Bertie it
Speaker 1: was like the loudest like cheer I've ever heard. And
Speaker 1: then the whole one was even louder like. It was crazy. Also,
Speaker 1: the gold medal that Xander brought out was crazy. Oh
Speaker 1: that's unforgettable seeing that. How about the fact that Fred
Speaker 1: Couples after the round, grabbed a bullhorn and basically basically
Speaker 1: declared the fact that you two are the best caddies
Speaker 1: in San Diegan. Oh, yeah, that is also unforgettable. I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting that. Yeah it was. It was great. It's
Speaker 1: a big compliment. Thank you. We ask everybody on the
Speaker 1: fire Pit podcast, what's your favorite fire pit? Do you
Speaker 1: have a place that you go and hang out. It
Speaker 1: might not even be an actual firebit of place where
Speaker 1: you listen to stories or tell stories. Um, it's a
Speaker 1: like kind of a honestly, I mean it's somewhere in
Speaker 1: my It's probably in my house in all honesty, or
Speaker 1: in my backyard. There's an actual fire pit back there.
Speaker 1: It's pitch black, and you know, turn the fire on
Speaker 1: a low not so it's not too bright or too hot.
Speaker 1: Now we'll just kick it back there. I got my
Speaker 1: Friendshie with me and my other ausie Doodle, and if
Speaker 1: they want to hang out with me for long enough.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like the heat, so usually he's the one
Speaker 1: kind of hogging on me. But that's usually my like
Speaker 1: zen Zen area is just hanging, hanging with the dogs
Speaker 1: of my wife, my big getaway. It's usually at my
Speaker 1: house so as private as possible. Man, Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: appreciate thanks. Thanks man. You know, I don't drink, so
Speaker 1: it's usually sitting around. We do have a fire bit
Speaker 1: right outside where I'm pointing. Um, it probably is there
Speaker 1: because it's supposed to be there. It's just kind of
Speaker 1: a fixture. Well, I've been to your fire pit in
Speaker 1: your backyard, which is one of the most epics places
Speaker 1: on planet. There's a great fire pit here. Do you
Speaker 1: have a favorite fire pit? Do you have a place
Speaker 1: where you say, this is the place I like to
Speaker 1: sit around and listen to total It's got to be
Speaker 1: right here at the goat right. You can have a
Speaker 1: better background, and you're sitting here looking at the Pacific
Speaker 1: Ocean on sunset. It's it's it's the best. I love
Speaker 1: being here and and uh not a better place. Three
Speaker 1: and one in the Wishbone braw his eleventh ace. Other
Speaker 1: than that, not much going on form today. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say probably right now and be I mean this
Speaker 1: fire pit up here obviously is one um that is
Speaker 1: hard to be. I think that once you you can
Speaker 1: get you can get stuck and get a flat tire
Speaker 1: up in the fire pit right here at go to
Speaker 1: hill with the view in the sunsets that I don't
Speaker 1: think it gets much better. Not to mention, you're always
Speaker 1: going to be sharing a beer with somebody that's just
Speaker 1: an incredible human. Yeah, and maybe it's a fire pit.
Speaker 1: Pills always is Dean's behind today, Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Some special boating part of the land itself, and that
Speaker 1: fire pit, I think it is in the whole sense,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, the whole you know, every morning
Speaker 1: beams in town and so it's the wintertime, you know,
Speaker 1: every morning beams in town. You know, so it's the wintertime.
Speaker 1: It's seven am. So nice to go up to start
Speaker 1: the fire going, and you know it's seven am and
Speaker 1: smell the fire going and you know, sort of welcome
Speaker 1: everybody with the fire and it sort of welcomes everybody.
Speaker 1: You know, how many we had, Yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: know how many fist a fire pit? So yeah, that
Speaker 1: is my number that fire pit. So yeah, that is
Speaker 1: my number one for sure. Put another log on the fire.
Speaker 1: Nobody years to get the time