1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: It is a back to work Tuesday here at the 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: Star in Frisco, inside the SWBC podcast studio. Heck Ma 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: Harris says, heck Ma Harrison says, come on in. It's 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: time for another edition of Mick Shots. Almost all of 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: us are here. Bill Jones, heck Ma Harrison, Mickey Spagnola, 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: and Everson Walls. There's a vacant seat over there. He 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: is as he He didn't say it in his text 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: this morning, but he is on assignment with That's what 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: they always say when someone's assignment somewhere. 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: He needed a longer weekend. 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 5: Yes, President's Day was not enough. I can only imagine that. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 5: You know, he always we always get into it every time. 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 5: I assume that he's on the golf course, so I will, oh, 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: he's on assignment. 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: That works, right, I think it was more Oh, crap. 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: That's you think he forgot it in between Friday and Monday. 24 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: What time did his text come in? 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: It was at eight twenty I learned. That's what I 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: get my notification a reminder at eight thirty, thirty minutes 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: ahead of the show. He might have his set for 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: forty minutes ahead of the show. So that's what I'm thinking. 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: Heina didn't get here at the time, but we got 30 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: plenty to talk about. 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: In fact, I think it's sort of the kickoff to 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: the off season. 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: Because today is the first day you can franchise. 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: This is George Pickens Day. Now it stretches for a 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. The deadline day isn't for a couple 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: of weeks March third, yeah, which is two weeks from today. 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: But this is the first day that teams can go 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 3: ahead and place the franchise or transition tag on a 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: potential free agent. And so that's why it's it's a 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: George Pickens fortnite here. It's a two week time frame 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: before they have to make that decision. 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: There's no hurry, right, No, not two weeks. 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: No. I don't know why you would do it right 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: off the bat and anyway. 46 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: I don't either. Yeah, because you've got two weeks to 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: negotiate a long term deal, right right, right, Yeah, And 48 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: once the league year begins on March eleventh, if you 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: franchise them, then you got to account for twenty eight million. 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, you want to. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: Kind of once he signs the franchise, Yeah. 52 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: Once he signs it. So yeah, and they've got some 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: work to do on the salary cap before they can 54 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 4: absorb absorb any of that. As a matter of fact. 55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds like you've been doing your homework. 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: I have. 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: Okay, we don't need to get into the nuts and 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: bolts now. 59 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: I'll just tell you they're over right now without the 60 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: twenty eight million. 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: And we don't know officially what the salary cap will be. 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 4: Should be between three hundred and three hundred and five. 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: Million, which is up twenty to twenty five million for 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: what it was last year, in which means the league 65 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: is doing very well. 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: Yes, league's doing great. What was it was it? What 67 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: was the bump from last season? Was it ten fifteen percent? 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: So it was to seventy eight h Yeah, I don't 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: know what that percentage is, but it bumps up quite 70 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: a bit. And they've got work to do to get under. 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: They're gonna have to. 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: It would be about a nine percent increase if he 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: goes up to third three oh five five. 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: Okay, a smartphone out you got? I like that Bill 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: I did. 76 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: I just did it only calculat but I don't know 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 3: if I did all right? I said came out as nine. 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, that sounds close. 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: Which certainly helps the Cowboys. And they also have a 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: twenty million dollar rollover that was excess from last year. Uh, 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: most of it because they didn't have to spend all 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: that money that they had set aside for Michael Parsons 83 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 4: uh before they traded them. So they've got that cushion there. 84 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: And then they are going to have to do the 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: restructure bonus with DAK, which they do every year. You're 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: gonna have to do it with CD. There's another one. 87 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 4: I think that Kenny Clark. They have to do something 88 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: with his uh, I think roster bonus that they have 89 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: to take care of. 90 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 3: Uh. 91 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 4: So they got some work to do, uh to create 92 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: enough room to get under the salary cap, because if 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: it started today, they'd be way over. 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 5: I think the mentality is is those those pieces have 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: to fall first, as you're talking about. 96 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: But what. 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 5: That's funny, just rolled out of bend. 98 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: That's funny. That is some funny stuff. They never he 99 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: never seems to amaze my man, brother pickens myself. 100 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: John, Yes, that's that's exactly what we're calling the pickings day. 101 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, they were calling the pickings. 102 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: Day, but tunes in. Oh there's an empty that is 103 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: you couldn't get. 104 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: Over here early. 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean he called me for a part. Can I 106 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: get the helicopter? 107 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: He said, yes, sir, no, your aparton from your sins 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 5: to use the. 109 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 4: Helicopter, which, by the way, congratulations, thank. 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: You man, thank you. That's hilarious. Yes, that's hilarious. I 111 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: won't even spoil it. Man, go ahead, and because can 112 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: well continued with the conversation. 113 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: I mean, we're trying to talk about you now, Yeah, 114 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: what about me? 115 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: Oh you like my shirt? Yeah? 116 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: I just doing anything. I'm sorry. I used to have 117 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: a cowboy garb. Yeah, well that's all right. I didn't 118 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 5: I got it. 119 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 4: I didn't know you and the president were so tight. 120 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 121 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 5: Nobody I didn't know that either. Oh my god, that 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: was that was amazing. I want to hear the story. Yes, yeah, okay, 123 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: two or three days ago, right, I'm sitting at home 124 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 5: watching TV with my wife. 125 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 6: You. 126 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 5: I'm in the back room watching TV, but I said, 127 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: I'll go out and watch Lifetime whatever whatever channel. 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: We want to watch. So I'm watching this and my 129 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: phone keep blowing up. 130 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, what in the world And I keep seeing 131 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: this text from a Mickey Miles Mickey Miles and uh. 132 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: It's Mickey Mouse but Mickey Miles. 133 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm like, who in the world is me? 134 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: I'm you know, I read it. I'm mister Jones' new assistant. 135 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Da da da. 136 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: I'm like somebody playing a game, right. So finally this 137 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 5: person calls and I answered. She said, hell on, I'm 138 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 5: Mickey Miles, and I'm with I'm mister Jones new and 139 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 5: he needs to see you. 140 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, what time this is? 141 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: Around about five thirty, well around about seven thirty, seven fifteen. 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 5: We need one want to see you, I said, okay. 143 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: So I hangs up, Like what you're thinking. I'm like, no, 144 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 5: I told my wife you ain't gonna play me. Yeah, so 145 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: I Derek Eagleton, I said Eagles, and I say, hey, man, 146 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: is it a Mickey Miles over there. 147 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: Mickey you know me. 148 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: I'm You're like, nah, I don't know that person, and 149 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's new Jump Missus Jones, He say, 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: but I just got a call from Todd Williams about 151 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 5: fifteen twenty minutes ago. I wanted to know your number 152 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 5: so it could be a connection there, I said. So, 153 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: I said, you know what, I don't mind driving. I 154 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: jump in my car and go over there and see 155 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: if missus Jones really want to talk to. 156 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: Which, by the way, I got a text wanting your 157 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 4: phone number. 158 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, where you're wearing that pink shirt when you walk down. 160 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't wearing the pink shirt. 161 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 5: So I go up with this guy and, uh, you know, 162 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 5: Missus Jones, big old desk and I'm sitting on here 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 5: in a little you know, I call it the hot seat, 164 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: you know. 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: And I shake his hand, I sit down and he 166 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: looks at me. 167 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: Wait, before you go any further, were you considering what 168 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: did I do? 169 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was definitely. Some of the things I be 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: saying on my. 171 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: Just got sent to the breakfast and I'm saying. 172 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: I'm thinking all of this, my wife, you think he's 173 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: gonna fire me, you know, No, he just on the phone. No, no, 174 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 5: he gonna call me in because I'm not going for it. 175 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 5: Don't come and say why. 176 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 6: You know? 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: Anyway, we we I sit down and he gets up 178 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 5: out of his seat and come around and sit right 179 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 5: in front of me, and I'm like, okay, mister Jones 180 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 5: were always clowning every I don't know whether we're gonna 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 5: be serious or whether it's gonna be a joke. 182 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: So me and him always clowning like that. So he 183 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: sit down. 184 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 5: He said, I don't want to be too casual about 185 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 5: what I'm finna say. I'm like, casual, okay, here, okay, 186 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: we're finish clown You know what I'm saying. 187 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: He said, I don't. He repeated, I don't want to 188 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: be too casual. 189 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: About what I'm about to say. And I said, yes, sir. 190 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 5: He said, uh, you've been partnering from all your crimes. 191 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 5: I said, okay, I'm a ride with this, I'm saying 192 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: in my mind real quick, I said, okay, oh, mister Jones, 193 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 5: before you go in. And further, I've had multiple crimes. 194 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 5: So which partner you talking about gonna give me? 195 00:09:59,520 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: He said? 196 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 5: He said no, Nate, for real, You've been pardoned for 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 5: your crime and it's a presidential pardoner. 198 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: I said, oh, And so now he got that serious 199 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: look about him. I said. He said, what do you think. 200 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: I said, well, you tell, uh, the President of the 201 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 5: United States, thank you. I know he's very busy, and 202 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 5: I know he has a lot of things to do, 203 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 5: and for him to think of me, you know, to 204 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 5: be able to do this right. Here are the people 205 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: that's under him that brought that up. And I'm looking 206 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 5: at him like, you know, I know you brought it up. 207 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 5: You know, thank you, thank you very much. And can 208 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: I call him? I mean, since you got can we 209 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: call him and talk to us like a person. He said, no, 210 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 5: give it some time, you know, let you know, let 211 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 5: the pay for work or the process go through it. 212 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: I say, I said, but serious, Miness Johnes, thank you. 213 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 5: And he said, well, what does this mean to you? 214 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 5: And I said, uh, what it means to me is 215 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: that I did something terribly wrong, against society, against. 216 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: A human and. 217 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 5: Over time I've been giving a second chance, and I 218 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: thank him for it. And maybe my kids can look 219 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: back one day and say, hey, man, my granddad boy. 220 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: He was an outlaw. You know he was. 221 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: He was a real minace of society. But look at 222 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: it he changed. Now that my kids, my grandkids don't 223 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: know that. My baby boy don't know me. My oldest 224 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 5: son know me. Trey, you know me because he was 225 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: aware of some of the things I did. But my 226 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: baby boy he have to read up on it. But 227 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 5: my grandkids, unless somebody walk up to him, somebody else, grandkids. 228 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: Say your dad was a granddad was an outlaw. They 229 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: won't even know. 230 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 5: But if they ever do look it up with these phones, 231 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: which one day they will, they'll say, hey, man, yeah, 232 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 5: and the president parted him. 233 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's clean, he's good, he's good to go. 234 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 5: It just proves over time twenty twenty five years that 235 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: if you change who you are and what you do 236 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 5: and how you walk in life, good things can happen. 237 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 5: That's what it means to me. 238 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: I mean now. 239 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 5: But it puts some pressure because I was thinking about 240 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: doing some bad things. 241 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: You can't do it. I can't do it for another 242 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: couple of years. 243 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that is That is outstanding, man, And it couldn't 244 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 5: have for me having a personal relationship with you. Like 245 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 5: I told you, man, I'm calling you from a payphone. 246 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 5: From there on, I already know this is I mean, look, 247 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 5: I think for when you talk about how you've changed 248 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 5: your life, Nate, for me knowing you getting this opportunity 249 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 5: as you know co hosts, and just knowing when you 250 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: call you you talk about being an outlaw, all those things, 251 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 5: I know you just to be a strong Christian man 252 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: and somebody that's always has a good word for people. 253 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: So I think, whatever backlash or whatever, you know, because 254 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 5: right now the world is so divided, but this literally 255 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 5: could not have happened four and to a better person, 256 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 5: especially with if this whole thing is designed to rehabilitate 257 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 5: a person and make him better. I mean, all that 258 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: I've ever seen from you, all that I've ever gathered 259 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: a god from you, and even in our conversations has 260 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: been nothing but great things, you know, great things and 261 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: being a man of faith and always challenging me to 262 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 5: increase my faith in times of you know, blunder, disaster, 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: even happiness. So man, I'm just I'm just so happy 264 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: man for you. When I woke up and saw it, 265 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: I thought I was dreaming. I was like, how did 266 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 5: that happen? But you know, miracles do still happen, man, 267 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: and people are blessed. Yeah, but I know I should 268 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 5: ask why I had him right where I needed, if 269 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: he was feeling good, I should ask for more money, 270 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: mister window. 271 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: But how about from this part of it too, Because 272 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: when you have that on your record, you know, and 273 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: you're looking for employment or whatever, think about what Jerry 274 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: Jones has done for you o quarter century, giving you 275 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: the opportunities that you've had here. And and then he's 276 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: you implied that he was the one that is taking 277 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: it to the president to at least be a part 278 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: of that process. 279 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 5: I think we better take this to a break because 280 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: Nate will answer all this and more. 281 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: We'll mix shots. Okay, let's do it. 282 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: Let's go to Ry, go to a break. 283 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 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Learn more at Dallascowboys Cheerleaders dot com 323 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 5: slash auditions. 324 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: All right, we continue with mixed shots on a Tuesday morning. 325 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: Of course, we're regularly here on Mondays, but because of 326 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: pre day. 327 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: Yesterday, nobody celebration. 328 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: President's Day came about three or four days early for 329 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: Nate Newton. As we were all driving in, we got 330 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: a text from Everson saying that uh, he couldn't make it, 331 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: sorry for the late notice. He could make it, and 332 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: thought entered my mind. Man, ever since not going to 333 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: be there, we're going to have an open seat. I 334 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: sure as heck, wish he hadn't told us so late, 335 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: because we could have had Nate come join us and 336 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: then low and beall. 337 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: Hold. 338 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: Two minutes into the show, here comes Nate Newton around 339 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 3: the corner and we can talk about so has day 340 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 3: coming early for him? 341 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: Let me give you an example. 342 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: Of what watching the show. 343 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah say, let me explain to you what this UH 344 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: does for you. Three years ago, four years ago, remember 345 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: when we were doing the Saturday show out in Arlington 346 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: at the bar. Uh NFL Films was going to come 347 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: in and do something. They were doing a fan thing, 348 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: and they knew we were doing the show, right, And 349 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, sure, come in. And so a day 350 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: or two before I get a call and they go, well, 351 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 4: we're thinking about it. It's UH. We'd like to just 352 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: talk to you. I said, well, Nate's part of it, 353 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: and they go, well, yeah, but he had this history 354 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: and we don't know that we want to put them 355 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 4: on the air. And I said, well, you got two choices. 356 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: You do all of us together or you do none 357 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 4: of us, right wow? And they did none of us 358 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: and so but that follows you, right, Yeah, And now 359 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: with this, maybe it gives people a different perspective on 360 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: what you've done with your life since those early aughts. 361 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: Well, the thing, the thing about it is, I've always 362 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: and I'm probably saying this is probably gonna upset some people. 363 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 5: I always kind of live life to my own beat 364 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 5: up to a certain point, and I accepted whatever came 365 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: to me, good, bad, or and different. 366 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, you you you rally whatever. 367 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 5: See me walking around here with my lip out, head 368 00:19:53,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 5: hanging because everything that has transpired, even that, but you're 369 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 5: talking about it's either direct from what I've done or indirect. 370 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: From what I've done. 371 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 5: So I'm I'm willing to accept in like NFL, they 372 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 5: did the right thing. If they felt that that was 373 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: not a good thing to promote, they show and to 374 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: give it the best viewing. Do your thing. You know, Uh, 375 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: I don't have I have no remorse. It's all about 376 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 5: doing the right things. If you live right and try 377 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: to do right, you know, then good things will come 378 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 5: to you and the people you're around. You can block 379 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: their blessings. That was a blessing for you, Mike. I 380 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: blocked that. But you know what now, Uh, not only 381 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: can the president pardon you from what man does, but 382 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: I already had a bigger pardon through God. 383 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: So I'm good. But I hate when I hear that 384 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: for you. 385 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 5: If if I'm hanging out with Heck and something great 386 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: can happen for Heck now, Oh mannake, oh man, I'm 387 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: crushing Bill. You know deal, you don't want that. As 388 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: a human, what I've learned over the years is you 389 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 5: have to think of more than yourself when you are 390 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 5: a selfish person, When you are a person that only 391 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 5: thinks of you and what you can gain out of 392 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 5: a situation, You're not gonna last. You're gonna slowly fall 393 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 5: off the cliff. You're not gonna last. It'll start out great, 394 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 5: It'll start out great. Can I be a millionaire? Yeah, 395 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: for only for a minute. But the people that treat 396 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 5: other people right and do things in the right way, 397 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 5: they seem to last. Even when they pass and go 398 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 5: to their resting place, people always have great things to 399 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 5: say about them. So that's how I live now. So 400 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 5: but I'm sorry about that, No, I'm sorry. 401 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but you've had to be so grateful for 402 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: the opportunities that you've had here. 403 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely, definitely. 404 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: Five years. 405 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: Whatever I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go a little story 406 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: when I was and I normally don't do this, but 407 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 5: since y'all we on this thing, and you know, a 408 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: lot of people walk up to me and I won't 409 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 5: have nothing to say to you. Then you know, right now, 410 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: I'm just sharing this when I was locked up, I've 411 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 5: always felt and because you when you locked up, you 412 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 5: got a lot of time to think. That's all you 413 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 5: do is think of the good, the bad, or the indifferences. 414 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 5: And the dude walked up to me one day and said, 415 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 5: and I didn't mean it in a wrong in a 416 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: bad way. He said, man, he said, you get out, boy, 417 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna be in trouble. I'm like, why would you 418 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: say that? He said, man, you let down a lot 419 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 5: of people. You was in the limelight, you did this. 420 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: And I kind of looked at him and I said, rh, 421 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 5: I said, when I get out of here, I'm gonna 422 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 5: be about I'm gonna be okay, I'm gonna do my thing. 423 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 5: He says, you're gonna think of me. I said, no, 424 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna think of you at all. I say, 425 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 5: because this place has taught me one thing is that 426 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: I don't want to be in here with you or 427 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: anybody like you. I said, it's nothing against you, but 428 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna think of you. I'm thinking of ways 429 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: that I can go back and talk to people of importance, 430 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: of a thought that my mother and father first to 431 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 5: tell them, I'm sorry. 432 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: I let you down. I hurt you. 433 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: I got uncles that was defending me, and I had 434 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: to tell them, no, brother, what I did. 435 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: I knew what I was doing. 436 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: So that young man looked at me like, man, if 437 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: I walk up to you in the street, I said, yeah, 438 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 5: I would shake your hand and I would give you 439 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: some power. 440 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: Love, bro. 441 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: But me and you ain't having a conversation. The thing 442 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 5: is when you've dealt with people like my family, who 443 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: are great human beings, mister Jones, Troy Emmett, Dion Sanders, 444 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 5: Michael Irvin, Bill heck NICKI, who have treated me with 445 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: utmost respect, Chris Bean, I tell people like that, I'm sorry, man, 446 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 5: because you cannot walk through life hurting people that have 447 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: helped you, doing people wrong that have helped you, people 448 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: that have had your best interest all the time. I've 449 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: walked through my whole life, and I don't know if 450 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 5: I ever told you this. Heck trying to destroy everything 451 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 5: that people have put in place for me. Always was 452 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 5: a good football player, never following the rules, always in 453 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: good places, working for ESPN, never following the rules. 454 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: I've been on Super Bowls. I even at halftime. 455 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: I'm even done shammed up a way to go see 456 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan, I mean Michael Jackson seeing at halftime, sitting 457 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: in the alerte what I'm saying. 458 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: I've always found ways. 459 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 5: And a young lady told me, and she was the 460 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: overseer when I was in my first stop in prison. 461 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 5: She looked at me. She was the lady counselor. I 462 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 5: don't know your name, ma'am. Love you to death for 463 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 5: this statement she made. She looked me right in my eyes, 464 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: did not blink. She said, mister Newton, I'm looking at 465 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: your record. You had all these accolades, you've been this, 466 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 5: you've been that, You've been on to the to the 467 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 5: to the top of the mountain. Only one thing this 468 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 5: shows me, mister Newton. And I look at it like 469 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 5: you know what, you know you can't handle prosperity. Why 470 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 5: is it that you can't handle prosperity? And at the time, 471 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: you know, I wanted to say something flip, but I 472 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: know she had the pen. So I'm like, I want 473 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: that dumb. I'm like, okay, yes, all right, okay, cool, 474 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 5: what do you have to say? 475 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: And I looked at it. I have nothing to say, 476 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: but that ain't never left me. 477 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 5: And over time, once you let the hatred, the resentment 478 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: and all of that melt away, and you start trying 479 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 5: to refix yourself and started saying how do I rebuild myself? 480 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: That's stuck in my mind. 481 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 5: So when things started happening good for me the second time, 482 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 5: I knew how to handle it with humility. You don't 483 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 5: hear me brag. You don't hear me saying what I 484 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: should be, what I should have. I just let God 485 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: bring it and when he bring it, I just receive 486 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 5: it and thinking, you know, that's how I walk through life. 487 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: Now, you know, well we just had the best mixed 488 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 4: shots ever there. 489 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: Well almost. Here's what you did. Okay, all right? You 490 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: were going down one road, okay, and you're and you 491 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: turned and you went the other way. 492 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 5: You know, that's exactly exactly what I was going to say. 493 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: That is repentance. And as you were talking about the 494 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: handling prosperity I was thinking of I just looked up. 495 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: There's the Bible verse Proverbs thirty seven nine seven through nine, 496 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: and it is it's a prayer not to give me 497 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: poverty or riches, okay, because I can't handle poverty or riches, 498 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: you know. And that's that's basically what's happened with you, 499 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: is you had the riches okay, and it happens to 500 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: so many of us. And what it brought you back 501 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 3: to where you belong. 502 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 5: That's right, you know, that's right. Like Moses said, I 503 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 5: mean that human what's the great? 504 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: Uh? 505 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 6: This? 506 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: Uh? 507 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: He wrote part of the New Testament, Paul, Like Paul said, 508 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 5: who was used to be sold? That's how I think. 509 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 5: Something like Paul said, whether I have a lot, whether 510 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 5: I have a little, I know how to maintain, through 511 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 5: the through the through the word. I know how to maintain. 512 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 5: And so you know, I don't want to get spiritual 513 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: on a lot of people out there because this is 514 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: a sports program. 515 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: But they asked, and they shall received a. 516 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: Living example of exactly what what that talked about is. 517 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: It's repentance, and that's what's what's happened for you, and 518 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: it took you down all the way to where you 519 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: had to spend time. Yeah okay, Yeah, and you turned 520 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 3: your life around, you know. 521 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I could tell you all some stories, but how. 522 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 5: This is the thing that I was raised in a 523 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 5: Christian home, so I always knew wrong right from wrong. 524 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 5: But it's just amazing how I would do things and 525 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: my wife Michelle would be like, baby, baby, you don't 526 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 5: have to do this, you don't have to do this, 527 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 5: and da da da da. 528 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: And I even had she. 529 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 5: Say, I said, I'm gonna get caught, sweetheart, I'm gonna 530 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 5: get caught. 531 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: Now. 532 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 5: You got to be an idiot or something just wrong 533 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 5: with you to know what you're doing is wrong. That's 534 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: why I tell people and they say, oh, you just 535 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 5: made a mistake. No, no, no mistakes or something like 536 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 5: when you close the door on your hand or run 537 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 5: over somebody by mistakes, walk out in the street. You 538 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 5: don't plot the crime and do the crime and not 539 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 5: know that something bad gonna happen. 540 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: So that's why I tell. 541 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 5: People that it's certain things when you're telling me and 542 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 5: you saying I made him mistake and you knew what 543 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: was gonna happen. It is all premeditated and you knew eventually, 544 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 5: but you thought you won't get caught. The only difference 545 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 5: between me and the person that thought they won't get caught. 546 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: I knew one day they gonna catch me. And she said, well, 547 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: what you're gonna do? 548 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: I said, well, I hope I don't get more than 549 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: five years. She just looked at me, She. 550 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: Like, maybe's something wrong with you and say, gut what 551 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: you're married to me. So what I'm trying to tell 552 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 5: people is you always have to think that when you're 553 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 5: doing wrong, if not here on this physical earth, you 554 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: gonna pay for this. And people like man, I got 555 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: away with a lot, And I said, you didn't get 556 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 5: away with a lot either. You didn't get away with 557 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 5: a lot. 558 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: I believe this right here. 559 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: You gonna only do what you can handle, what you 560 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 5: can what you built the handles. You know a lot 561 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 5: of people I said, man, I can't. I can't do that, 562 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 5: can't do that. But then I think about it. But 563 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 5: I did this and I did that, And that's what 564 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 5: I challenged people. You got your fears. I may not 565 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: know what your fears are. Jail wasn't a fear. The 566 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 5: police wasn't a fear to me. 567 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: Now they want. 568 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: An opponent like the Washington team or the New York 569 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 5: But I want to. I want't scared of that when 570 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 5: a police officer pulled me over, Okay, all right, what's up? 571 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 5: You know, I was never fearful of getting caught, But 572 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 5: then when I got caught, I realized I was caught. 573 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 5: And when that lady broke that down to me, I 574 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: went to thinking I could have been millions and millions 575 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 5: and millions of dollars because I got mister Jones upstairs 576 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 5: with this with who sought me down several times showing 577 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 5: me how to invest money. But I want to go 578 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 5: out here and be scarfaced. 579 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: I told him about tell that it is best, you know, 580 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: and do it all the wrong way. 581 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: Just think I'm more satisfied with the bank account and 582 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: the little investments I have now than I've ever been 583 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 5: in life. So I never needed the millions mister Jones 584 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 5: ad even though, thank you, brother, But I don't. I 585 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: don't want to be poor either, and poor as a 586 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 5: state of mind, you know. 587 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: So I'm sitting here with you guys. 588 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean what I get paid and what 589 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: we get paid as individual subcuntry, it ain't a great 590 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: a lot of amount we have to beat. We have 591 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 5: to do quantity to make it quality. But you know 592 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 5: what I'm sitting here, Everson, thank you gotta be good. 593 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 5: You know what I what I hope, what I hope 594 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 5: what happens in the future is that you take this 595 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: message to young people. I really donate and and I 596 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: know you're you're a very reserved person like you when 597 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 5: you tell hey, man, you know, if somebody come up 598 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 5: the stranger come up to you trying to talk to you, Hey, 599 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 5: you probably get two words. 600 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: From Nate noton but that you doing. 601 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 5: You know, this is I think the message, especially me 602 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 5: being a young man being from o'cliff, you know what 603 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 5: I'm saying, being you know, growing up in these areas 604 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: and understanding, you know, the prison industrial complex that it 605 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 5: happens in our neighborhoods and guy's not getting apart, and 606 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 5: guys having those stripes, not being able to you know, 607 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: smart as all get out, but not being able to 608 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 5: get jobs, being able to have things happen for you. 609 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 5: That message needs to be conveyed because like you said, man, 610 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 5: everybody has their fears. And if you don't have a 611 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 5: healthy fear of authority, and you're already already telling yourself 612 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 5: the time that you're gonna get for the crime that 613 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 5: you committing. Now you you a special kind of individual, 614 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 5: number one, you know, But number two, what if you 615 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 5: took that wherewithal and applied that to engineering, if you 616 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 5: applied that to accounting, if you applied that to being 617 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: a lawyer, a doctor, or something like that, you realize 618 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: with what you did wrong that there was absolutely another 619 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 5: way for they do. 620 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: Now, hey, what you do understand, Like of your. 621 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 5: Hand is football, and you can talk football and you 622 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 5: sleep to a baby to anybody. But think about those 623 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: that message being conveyed to someone younger that may not 624 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 5: understand or may not have a mister Jones or someone 625 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 5: that has that structure applied to your life that can 626 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: help you. 627 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: You know. 628 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 5: I think that's I think that's telling. I think that 629 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: that testimony is strong man, and it shouldn't just stay here. 630 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: But the thing is, like, like I tell people, I 631 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 5: would rather talk to parents, not kids. The the structure 632 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 5: of who we are today. These are our parents, and 633 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 5: we had we were sitting here having a constructive conversation. True, 634 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 5: some idiot get up on here and chop it up. 635 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: And for those just listening, Nate picked up his phone. 636 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: These are our parents. 637 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and their chop they'll chop up everything we just said. 638 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 5: And a kid to get this and say, uh. The 639 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 5: reason I stopped talking to kids is because I heard 640 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 5: a parent. 641 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: It crushed me. 642 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 5: I heard a parent tell her kid, see, see, baby, 643 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: it's gonna be all right. Mister Newton made it. 644 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: Hm. No no, no, no, no no. 645 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 5: What you should be telling your child is we got 646 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 5: a plan we're gonna put in place. And these are 647 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 5: the things that don't expect from you. These are the 648 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: things you can expect from me. But don't tell your 649 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: kid it's gonna be all right, because it's not gonna 650 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: be all right if you don't do anything to get 651 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 5: this stuff in order. You know, Like I just believe 652 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 5: as my mom and dad, and this is probably was 653 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 5: not said enough to a lot of people. I had 654 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 5: a mom and a dad who were righteous people who 655 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 5: lived life right. I had a grandmama, I had an aunt, 656 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 5: I had an uncle. I had cousins who lived right. 657 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 5: Village theory. That is what brought me back all the 658 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: way round to what was right. That is the first 659 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 5: besides God. Those are the people that I had to 660 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 5: say I'm sorry because they were still defending me. 661 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: Now that ain't my son. Yes, daddy, this is your son. 662 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 5: Yes, Mama, this is your son who got off on 663 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 5: the on the wrong track, done the wrong things. We 664 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: as human beings, not Nate butt heck my butt, Mickey 665 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 5: butt bill. Your jobs is to put your kids around 666 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 5: the right people's sight. That's your job. It's called opportunities. 667 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 5: When success meets opportunity. 668 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: Our luck. 669 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 5: Albu mic Erman used to put this thing. It's the 670 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 5: thing he used to use. 671 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: You know you. 672 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 5: It's our job as parents to put our kids around 673 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 5: the right people, not by race, not by color, not 674 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 5: by creed, by about what it's good. And that's that's 675 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 5: how I look at it. Now, that's a biblical scripture. 676 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 3: Raise up a chiut and the way that you should go. 677 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: And that's right. 678 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: Oh he will return, Yeah. 679 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 5: And I returned to what my father helped the black neighborhood. 680 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 5: He was a called a black banker. He ran several stores. 681 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 5: People will come in and make loans. You ain't had 682 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: one time not to pay him back. Your loan was revoked. No, 683 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 5: you ain't got to give him the money. But he 684 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 5: was the black banker. You know, my grandmama. Everybody came 685 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 5: to my grandmama for all the old stories. My mother, 686 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: she's a school teacher. Have a help her because I 687 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 5: never I could never punctuate nothing correctly. 688 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: But I was. 689 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 5: Black sheep, literally black, you know so. But my grandmama, 690 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: beautiful lady man. I remember, she's a scrub I clothes 691 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 5: man in when we little town called Lottie man. 692 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: Uh, we all have to get him and go to church. 693 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: It's sixteen boys in a three bedroom house because all 694 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 5: the daughters had boys. So we would go in the 695 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 5: summer and spend with our grandma. And I used to 696 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 5: be one of the mean ones. And I used to 697 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 5: hear tell you. 698 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: I had to pinch him. I had to pinch him. 699 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 2: Get him right. He sit up here eyeing me now. 700 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: But we're gonna get out here and scrubbed it. 701 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 5: We'll get out there and scrubbed the clothes man, like 702 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: five or six ten buckets, scrubbing clothes. Just I knew 703 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 5: what good and family and life was right. But I 704 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 5: chose another path. We get to do that as adults, 705 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 5: but as an adult, I accepted my faith. That's what 706 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 5: we don't let our kids do now. We don't let 707 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 5: our kids grow up. And I told hell one time, 708 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 5: you gotta let him go, Bro, you gotta let him 709 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 5: go out there and do his thing. If he bump 710 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 5: his head, okay, and if he hasn't done anything true, 711 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 5: too too bad, then you heapen, you heapen, you show 712 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 5: him the right way. Very good, Nate, see all that, clown, 713 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 5: And I do y'all think I knew that I did. 714 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: It well not to have to bring it back to sports. 715 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 4: But if you've been watching the Olympics and when they 716 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: interview guys after they have success, who are the first 717 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 4: person they think their parents? 718 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: Yes, right, because. 719 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 4: They gave him direction, the ability to have an opportunity 720 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: to succeed or just to participate. Yes, that's one of 721 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 4: the things I think we've listened to over the last 722 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: couple of weeks about the Olympics. 723 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: Wow, but you know what, I just think, Man, if 724 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 5: I can get George Pickens and get him up under 725 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 5: franchise tag, get him going, get him signed, we're gonna 726 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 5: have him. 727 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: And I'm a minister to him. 728 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: Well he will get franchised if he doesn't get the extension. 729 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, And when we return here on. 730 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 5: Mixshout that yeah we take no no, do we know 731 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 5: we can get out that's right, we gotta get out. 732 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: But okay, you wanted to personally thank the President. Yes, okay, 733 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: let's do it a year from now when the team 734 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: makes a trip to the White House, and let's let's 735 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: talk about what this team needs to do to make 736 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: that trip to the White House. 737 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: I don't want to shine the team though, when we 738 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: come back here on this year with Seattle. 739 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 4: Hey Cowboy fans, if you're thinking about attending a game 740 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 4: this season, visit Cowboys Travel dot com to book your 741 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 4: travel package today. 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Watch headliners Riley Green, Shaboozi, Cowetzo, 780 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 5: and Moore at the three day outdoor Country Music festival, 781 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 5: plus enjoy barbecue from some of the best pitmasters in 782 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 5: the country. Get your tickets now at SeatGeek dot com, 783 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 5: the official ticketing partner of AT and T Stadium. Shaouzi, 784 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 5: you know what, see this is the new world we 785 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 5: live in. It ain't nowhere in the world. Thirty years 786 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 5: ago we let a country do be named Shaboushi. Come on, man, 787 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 5: come on man, see there you got your pardon And. 788 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 4: He's turned a Shaboozi fan. I can't remember which game 789 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: we were at. This black limo pulled in underneath the 790 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 4: stadium and I saw this guy get out, and I go, 791 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 4: that's Shaboozy Wow. And I told somebody I saw Shaboozie. 792 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 4: The kids upstairs, they go, how do you know who 793 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 4: that is? I go, I'm cool. 794 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 5: Maybe I would have thought he was a rapper, I'm not. 795 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm lost when it comes to stuff like that. 796 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: You know you're not the only one. All right, final 797 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 3: few minutes here of this week's mixed shots. We talked 798 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 3: at the very outset of the show about George Pickens 799 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 3: and the and the Cowboys have two weeks to decide 800 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 3: placing the franchise on him. 801 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 4: And they will, okay, if the long term deal doesn't 802 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 4: get done, they will twenty eight million guaranteed one year, 803 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: which is different from where Parsons was last year because 804 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 4: he was on his fifty year option, so he was 805 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 4: already under contract. This got to get settled. But twenty 806 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 4: eight million, one year guaranteed. 807 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about in these final five minutes 808 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: about building a team. And the key to building. 809 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 2: A team is flair participation. 810 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: Lair participation, and you mentioned it in the break and 811 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 3: so I'm going to bring this up last night. Fernando Mendoza, 812 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy winner, National champion quarterback Indiana. He's going to 813 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 3: be the number one pick in the draft by the 814 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders. He's in he was in Fort Worth. 815 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 3: I didn't talk with him. He got the Davy O'Brien award. 816 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,959 Speaker 3: He was at the awards ceremony and I was also 817 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: talking with Rick Neuheisel who's now the head coach of 818 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 3: the Dallas Renegades on Sunday and we're talking about the 819 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 3: sixth sess that Indiana football had this year. Okay, in 820 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 3: this whole world of nil and transfer portal and all that, 821 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 3: what they had on that Indiana team. What new Heiseld 822 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 3: was talking about in Mendoza talking to him about it 823 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 3: at the end of day is they had an entire 824 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 3: team that was bought in and it all started. Mendoza 825 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 3: got a year ago. At this time, he had just 826 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 3: transferred from cal to Indiana, and nobody had ever heard 827 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: of Fernando Mendoza. But he has that leadership quality about 828 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 3: him the dakas other great quarterbacks have that gets his 829 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 3: team together. And they worked starting in the springtime last 830 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 3: year at Indiana and it culminated in an unbelievable sixteen 831 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: and o season. The worst football program in college football 832 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: history wins the national championship and goes to the distance. 833 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: And they did it with a bunch of guys that 834 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 3: they weren't the high profile transfer from. 835 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: No star, five star. 836 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 3: They took it all, but they were a team. Yes, 837 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: and it starts right out here. 838 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 5: I just believe that, and I keep going ahead because 839 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 5: we talk a lot, and every time he talk, I 840 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 5: always come to two things. What is gonna happen with 841 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 5: OTA's and player participation? And it started for me with 842 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 5: Miami yesterday purging their team. Is it anybody, any veteran 843 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 5: that we can sign? I mean a guy that can play. 844 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 3: And it's gonna be bought in. 845 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, free agent, getting guys here, buying in understanding what's 846 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 5: got to happen to win. 847 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 2: I don't. 848 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 5: What's the most disappointed days for me is when I hear, well, 849 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 5: this guy missed because of this, and this guy missed 850 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 5: because of that, and there's no reason. Because football is 851 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 5: what pays the bill. 852 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 2: Let's keep it real. Football is what pays the bill. 853 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: Come be a part of something and make it special. 854 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 5: If we go another year talking about guys being off 855 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 5: and missing practice and not doing what they're supposed to do, 856 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 5: you don't have a fifteen to twenty days of padded practices. 857 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 5: Make sure every player is in practice, in practicing. That 858 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 5: is what killed us last year, y'all, not coach evil Flus, 859 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 5: but the lack of player participation. We got to find 860 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 5: more guys that love to play football. But free agency 861 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 5: and the draft. 862 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 3: I remember in the off season on a slow day 863 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: back in the nineties, we would just go out to 864 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 3: Valley Ranch, and back then as reporters, we could just 865 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 3: walk into the locker room in March, see who's hanging out, 866 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 3: and in March Troy Yateman and Michael Irford are out 867 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 3: of the practice field throwing to each other. I mean, 868 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 3: that's the buy in starts that early in the offseason. 869 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 5: Buy in is the best word to use. And for 870 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 5: me here early especially if you can add the tag 871 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 5: right away. How early do the Cowboys start to be aggressive? 872 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 5: We've heard to talk about getting guys signed. We have 873 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 5: a twenty two players that are going to hit free agency. 874 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 5: How many of those guys are going to fit what 875 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 5: shot he's doing? Are any of those guys gonna be 876 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 5: brought back? I'm my question about you know, the draft, 877 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 5: you know, compensatory versus free agency. Are you going to 878 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 5: head into this season with more of a rebuild mentality 879 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 5: to this to this team or are you, hey, let's 880 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 5: get it done right now. When you talk about a 881 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 5: team like Indiana, it was all about bringing in the 882 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 5: guys that fit what we do. 883 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 2: They didn't reach for players. 884 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 3: Take it to the NFL. How about the New England 885 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 3: Patriots four and thirteen last year and they go to 886 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 3: the Super. 887 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 5: Bowl and you know, Seattle, the same thing with a 888 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 5: two year coach that didn't reach on those picks. He 889 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 5: got the guys that he knew could help me go 890 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 5: of the guys that he knew what. To everybody else's surprise, 891 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 5: they're hoisting the Lombardy and Lombardi and the champions. So 892 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 5: we're all saying the same thing. This ain't coming down 893 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 5: to them. The only thing we need the coaches to 894 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 5: do is put the scheme together and get the right players. 895 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 5: But most of all, get players who wants to play football. 896 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 2: That's been our problem. I mean, come on, man, I 897 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 2: mean only in America can we have a mixed shots 898 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 2: only the Cowboys. Come on, man, for players to. 899 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 4: Us and we'll finish with And that is one reason 900 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 4: why everybody wants to talk about negotiations, the negotiations, this 901 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 4: or that. It came down to do I believe this 902 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 4: guy wants to. 903 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: Play, Thank God for me, that's right. 904 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 4: And two of those guys are gone. 905 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so you can't make that mistake again. You 906 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 5: couldn't make that mistake again. Well, I'm gonna tell you 907 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 5: something mister Jones told me. But I tell y'all off, hairboy, 908 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 5: because this just blew my mind. But anyway, by. 909 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 2: Say, I should have waiting, man, but I want to 910 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: tell y'all. 911 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 4: Gotta wait till the next one day. 912 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 2: No, man, I want to I'm gonna tell y'all something. 913 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well we're gonna hear it and maybe 914 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 3: it will be something that we can tell you next 915 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 3: Monday at eleven on UH mixed shots. Have a great week, 916 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 3: great week, Go Cowboys. 917 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 918 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.