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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season thirty two, Episode

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Speaker 1: one of Daily Night Guys or May twenty one, two

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Speaker 1: thousand eight. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien aka Union Jack,

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Speaker 1: because I had a very British weekend in which I

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Speaker 1: both was randomly up for the Royal wedding thanks to

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Speaker 1: my eleven week old and then started watching The Great

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Speaker 1: British Making Show courtesy of a underrated from one of

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Speaker 1: our guests too. I think it was Theresa Lee maybe,

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Speaker 1: who was someone who's just saying, if you want to

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Speaker 1: escape the chaos of our yeah, just watching the nicest show.

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Speaker 1: Everyone they like just hugged their ship out of the

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Speaker 1: people who they have just kicked off the show. And

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Speaker 1: for like us, you're going to be great competition reality

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Speaker 1: goes you're used to like they needed help and I

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Speaker 1: said fuck off, and here like they're so willing to

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Speaker 1: help each other anyway. They're like, actually, I am sort

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Speaker 1: of here to make friends, uh. And I am thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles Great. Hello, it's Monday. It's Miles Gray a k A.

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to a n n A hose Nie. That's right,

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Speaker 1: Super du Anna Hosnier or Anna if you're Jack or

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Speaker 1: her family. Uh is celebrating her nineteenth birthday today. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and you know, shout out to you live your best

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Speaker 1: life out there. It looks like you're having a good

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Speaker 1: time in Seattle on your Instagram doing some obscure golf

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Speaker 1: tournament that you will have to explain to me when

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Speaker 1: I see you in person. Is she a golfer? No?

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Speaker 1: I think this is just like a fun joke, gag thing,

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Speaker 1: because clearly there was no golf going on and just drinking.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but hey, Anna, if you're listening, and I

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Speaker 1: know you're not every day, happy birthday, and you know,

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Speaker 1: send some love Anna's ways her birthday, And we are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one

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Speaker 1: of the all time grades, if not the the all

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Speaker 1: time great podcast guests and one of the funniest stand

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Speaker 1: up comedians just I've ever seen in person. She is

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Speaker 1: Jamie Lost. Hi. Hey, what's that? What's look? I'm good,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. It's like it's crummy out. I love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I like it overcast. There were some

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Speaker 1: people in town from England that I met over the

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Speaker 1: weekend and they were really disappointed that they were like

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Speaker 1: the weather is technically actually better in London right now

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Speaker 1: than in l a and we're really bummed about it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well it's her. I'm like amping myself up today.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing like all my favorite clothing items to just

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Speaker 1: like pull up the vibe and it's working. My Buya shirt.

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Speaker 1: I got my Ted Kazynski sweatshirt. Yeah that you wore.

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Speaker 1: I think you said jury duty went? Where did jury do?

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Speaker 1: Like it? It's a straight up standard Harvard sweatshirt with

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Speaker 1: the Uni bomber drawing underneath it, because Harvard literally created

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Speaker 1: the Uni bomber. If you don't know the origin story

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Speaker 1: of that. There was a brutal psychological study that they

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Speaker 1: did on Harvard students back in nineteen fifty nine Ted

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Speaker 1: basically asked them to explain their sort of philosophy on

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Speaker 1: then tear their arguments apart and just like basically destroy

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Speaker 1: them a video of their world being destroyed over and

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Speaker 1: specifically have in their notes. Wow, this one person was

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Speaker 1: completely off the charts in terms of how anxious this

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Speaker 1: come in and we're just gonna read you down to

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Speaker 1: filth and your whole world. You you will come out

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Speaker 1: of here feeling that like you're just meaningless. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you're sixty. The story of the guy who designed the

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Speaker 1: study is crazy. He's like just straight up super villain.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, shout out to Harvard. Yeah. Or

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Speaker 1: when we're Harvard people whenever you men people who go

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Speaker 1: But then there's like the reverse, people who like straight

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Speaker 1: oh where They're like yet embarrassing for you? Uh. Super

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Speaker 1: producer Nick Stump has a theory that people who went

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Speaker 1: if you have a conversation with them, it's just like

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Speaker 1: also they turned into Handsome Dan Handsome Dan from Wayne's

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Speaker 1: World to Harry, Handsome Dan, I used to have, I

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Speaker 1: used to have Wait, are you serious? Is Handsome Dan

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Speaker 1: the name of a fictional character. Yeah, Handsome Dan is

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Speaker 1: the radio DJ that in Wayne's World too. When they

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Speaker 1: go to promote Wayne Stock, they first go in and

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Speaker 1: they think they're meeting handsome Dan, and it's actually Ted

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Speaker 1: then in the studio it's gross Harry Sheer. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was his idea. And it's such

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Speaker 1: a big crush on handsome Dan, and I changed my

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Speaker 1: major and I got a radio degree because a podcast legend,

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Speaker 1: a handsome and part of the mystique of handsome Dan

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Speaker 1: was like, what a brilliant name that he just ripped

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Speaker 1: off from Wayne's World two. I literally thought, I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: he's so confident. Was there also a guy who screamed

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Speaker 1: whose co hostess went, Was he a handsome man named Dan?

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Speaker 1: He was a handsome man for a radio DJ? He was?

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Speaker 1: And no, no, he was cute. He was my crush.

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Speaker 1: And then I, like with many of my crushes, I

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Speaker 1: just changed the direction of my life based on good

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Speaker 1: A reason is any I say, Jamie, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history? That is revealing about who you

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Speaker 1: are as a human being. Well, just before you guys

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Speaker 1: I looked up Carney blog two thousand and eight because

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Speaker 1: There was this old blog I used to read when

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Speaker 1: Kevin who had just decided to leave the carnival forever.

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Speaker 1: And he would post on his blog spot account whenever

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Speaker 1: pre netbook. But he had some way of posting, and

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Speaker 1: and he would post maybe once a month, and then

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Speaker 1: in October two eight he posted the saddest thing I've

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Speaker 1: Now I know, I found the blog. It's still up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: blog Spot I think is eternal. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: like a lot of a lot of websites though, just

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Speaker 1: you know, like geo cities and ship and a lot

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Speaker 1: Just the Rock Gifts, so it's still up. Diary of

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Speaker 1: a Carney dot blogspot dot com. I also looked up

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Speaker 1: this weekend organ transport like an organ instrument, because my

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Speaker 1: great uncle hit me up. We talked about once a year.

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Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I'm making my will. He's very old.

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Speaker 1: my only relative in California. I bet you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of about a lot of things about carrying people's

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Speaker 1: is so hopefully three. No, it's like a weird it's

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Speaker 1: not an organist by trade. No, No, he just decided

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Speaker 1: piano organ. Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. He just like incorporate.

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Speaker 1: Then you're acting like, now I'm gonna play some organ,

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Speaker 1: and it's you're gonna look like a prolific goes out

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Speaker 1: they there? Yeah, they're scantique. Yeah, so you know, hopefully

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Speaker 1: this organ has a very Teddy Perkins Atlanta episode vibe

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Speaker 1: to it. You should watch that if you haven't. All right, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: what is something that is overrated? Overrated? Because I haven't

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Speaker 1: been here in awhile, I will say overrated trying to

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Speaker 1: negotiate detent with your enemies in real life, because I

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Speaker 1: uh was stood up by swoll Sauce about almost a

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Speaker 1: month ago. Now, last time you were you were about

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Speaker 1: he totally stood me up, he said. He asked for

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Speaker 1: Swoll Sauce and we have some business to discuss. So

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Speaker 1: if I don't like, I was like, don't do any

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Speaker 1: We don't know made this big deal of it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And he did not show. And then I message him like,

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Speaker 1: swell Sauce, what the happening? That's my favorite text he

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Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And then I blocked his ass. I

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Speaker 1: think we just need to immortalize that that bubble from

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Speaker 1: your text conversation that you posted, or just what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: His response was like I was really annoying because it

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Speaker 1: was almost like self mythologizing. He was like, you can't

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Speaker 1: was like he had been listening and was in on

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Speaker 1: the joke. Yeah, I said, Swell Sauce, where the funk

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Speaker 1: were he? And he yeah, And he was just like sorry,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to make good with someone who insulted

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Speaker 1: idea as I originally thought. Overrated. All right, So despite

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Speaker 1: what mental health professionals tell you, you you should not go

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Speaker 1: after people who say mean things about you on the

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Speaker 1: internet and try and become was really hoping to lift

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Speaker 1: that stigma. And it turns out that was wrong. You

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Speaker 1: should write a book about it, embracing my trolls. What

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Speaker 1: is something that is underrated? Underrated, I would say, is

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Speaker 1: burying your pets once they die, obviously, not while they're living.

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Speaker 1: it must have been some unit that we were taught

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Speaker 1: because I found an essay I wrote when I was

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Speaker 1: ten about why like video games is bad. Yeah, yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and we wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about the upcoming meetings between Donald Trump and North Korean

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Speaker 1: later Kim Jong n Miles, you had some interesting updates

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Speaker 1: from me eating about this, and I'm it follows a

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Speaker 1: pattern Donald Trump really likes, which is spiking the football

434
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Speaker 1: when you're on the fifty yard line, like you scored

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Speaker 1: the motherfucking touchdown and you're not even in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: my guy. Uh So, look the past few weeks, he

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Speaker 1: has been pumping up his own little pep, talking about

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Speaker 1: I'm the real peacemaker. I should get a Nobel prize.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, these guys are about to fully d

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Speaker 1: nuke because of me, blah blah blah. And now we're

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Speaker 1: starting to get reports that Donald Trump is kind of

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Speaker 1: starting to get cold feet because he's worried that this

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Speaker 1: thing could turn into an embarrassment. And there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of things to look at why this could possibly

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Speaker 1: see him again. We talked about how dangerous it was

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Speaker 1: for people with very fragile egos to meet up and

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Speaker 1: begin to make concessions. So first of all, like you know,

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Speaker 1: when Mike Pompey had a secret meetings. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: the news came out of there was pretty good that

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Speaker 1: North korew was open to completely d nuclearizing. And you know, again,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump got that football out, started raising his arm,

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Speaker 1: and then John Bolton went hunt TV and started saying

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Speaker 1: buzzwords like Libya, which are on the no no list

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Speaker 1: when it comes to North Korea because that is the

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Speaker 1: exact scenario that Kim Jong lun wants to avoid. And

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Speaker 1: then the North Korean chief negotiator was basically kind of

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Speaker 1: making clear is like, you know, the idea of total

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Speaker 1: nuclearization probably not gonna happen. So that worried Trump to

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Speaker 1: the point that he called President Moon of South Korean

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Speaker 1: was like but earlier he said he was gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? No, no, no, no, And so that

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Speaker 1: started to add a little bit to his nervousness because also,

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Speaker 1: as we've said before that he is so thirsty for

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Speaker 1: like a real political win, like one that even people

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Speaker 1: on the left or like you know what, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: you did, maybe you did pull that off. And just

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Speaker 1: in general, he needs something to really hang his two

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Speaker 1: pay on, and he does don't really have that. So

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Speaker 1: now this is kind of getting a little bit more

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Speaker 1: nervous because of the just desperate need for the optics

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Speaker 1: of him being an effective leader. And then when you

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Speaker 1: add to that also that he knows functionally fuck all

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Speaker 1: about the North Korea nuclear program. It's a little worrying too,

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Speaker 1: because there are a lot of aids writing about how

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Speaker 1: he just is like doesn't really understand the complexities of

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Speaker 1: the nuclear program and that how that could hinder him

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Speaker 1: when he's trying to actually negotiate things because there's things

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Speaker 1: like you know, uranium enrichment and plutonium reprocessing and things

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00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: like that that are vital parts of like of making

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Speaker 1: these kinds of deals. And you know, meanwhile, he was

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Speaker 1: like trying to take credit or just be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, well, they're they're going to close this one

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Speaker 1: test site, you know, because of the pressure that was

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00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: like a site that had like literally collapsed under the

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Speaker 1: sheer like nuclear testing induced earthquakes that was going on.

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Speaker 1: So that really wasn't much of a win. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of these are kind of coming together to sort

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Speaker 1: of create a mood around the White House us that

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Speaker 1: Trump is sort of worried that he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to do the thing where he flies in

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Speaker 1: on a golden Eagle to Singapore, tells Kim Jong, you know,

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Speaker 1: hand over the keys to the nukes, and then he

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00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: flies back being like, okay, American number one piece achieved

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Speaker 1: level five uh achievement unlocked. So I don't know, we'll

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00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: see what happens. These again, these aren't things that he's

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Speaker 1: like actually said, oh, we should cancel it, But these

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Speaker 1: are the grumblings and rumblings around the White House that

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Speaker 1: he's increasingly kind of begin He's starting to get a

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Speaker 1: little insecure about the meeting. Well, I think I think

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Speaker 1: from his point of view, at the meeting will go.

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Speaker 1: You know, he'll get there and he'll be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I will show you my PP, you show me your PEP.

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Speaker 1: Whoever has bigger PEP wins the meeting, And maybe he's

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00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: learning getting some intel that someone has a bigger PP

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Speaker 1: than him, yeah, or just knows how to actually negotiate,

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Speaker 1: because this is like all part of his thing. My god,

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Speaker 1: it's like the same thing with just as at an

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Speaker 1: aside is the trade war with China. Like he just

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Speaker 1: announced that he's gonna put the trade war quote on

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Speaker 1: hold because like some not real concessions of Chinese made

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Speaker 1: They just sort of like sort of suggested that they

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Speaker 1: may increase purchasing certain crops or whatever, and that was

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Speaker 1: enough for trying to be like, Okay, let's put the

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Speaker 1: trade war on hold. Meanwhile, the whole entire campaign, he

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, China is screwing us. We are going

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Speaker 1: to really hit them, We're going to punish them. And

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Speaker 1: he has also just like completely just sort of caved

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Speaker 1: at the first sign of pressure or whatever. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, but this seems like the trend

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Speaker 1: of him being Leon let in that fateful Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: match where Don Beaty comes behind him and strips the

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Speaker 1: football from him before he can even get to them zone. Right,

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Speaker 1: he's celebrating at the one yard line and gets the

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Speaker 1: ball stripped. I feel like it's actually more like that

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Speaker 1: kicker who jumped up to celebrate a like early season

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Speaker 1: field goal and tour his m c L because because

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Speaker 1: it's not it's he had a small success very early

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Speaker 1: in the process and celebrated it and celebrated it so

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Speaker 1: hard that he has now sort of fucked himself in

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Speaker 1: terms of confidence. Also just in terms of the leaking,

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Speaker 1: because this is something that just comes up over and

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Speaker 1: over again when it comes to the coverage of this

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Speaker 1: White House. It's pretty remarkable that the people preparing him

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Speaker 1: for a historic summit with North Korea are just talking

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Speaker 1: open ship about him, being like, he doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: the funk he's talking about. He's scared about that, and

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00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: he's incompetent. What the funk are we gonna do? People

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Speaker 1: who are siding with him seem to think that this

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00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: is because there's some deep state conspiracy against him. Is

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00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: that more likely or is it more likely that he

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00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: treats everyone around him like ship, and everyone who is

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00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: working with him sees up close how incompetent he is

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Speaker 1: and are scared for the future of our country because

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Speaker 1: the leaking is not a single person who has some agenda.

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00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: The leaking is just everywhere. No matter where Trump is,

546
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: someone's going to be like, Uh, you're not gonna believe

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00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: what the funk this guy just said about That just

548
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: seems like long game thinking on everyone's part too, because

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: it's like you won't. I mean, hopefully there's someone in

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Speaker 1: the White House who has uh the better interest of people,

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Speaker 1: although I'm not convinced that's true, but like you know,

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00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: like a couple of years on when the Trump thing

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00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: is ideally behind as they want to be able to

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Speaker 1: be like, well, I said something. Look remember when I

555
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: lead something. I said, I'm not I'm not that bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm complicit, but I'm not bad. I was that anonymous source. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was source from this New York Times article. There

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Speaker 1: were people are going to come back and claim that

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00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: they were the source, like when this nightmares. Well, that's

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of like how those suspicious activity reports that Michael

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Speaker 1: Avinadi got his hands on with Michael Cohen. That was

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Speaker 1: someone at the Treasury Department I think or SEC. I

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00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: forget anyway, someone there who was monitoring that gave it

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Speaker 1: to him because he's like I felt that some of

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Speaker 1: the activity reports are being like suppressed and not coming out,

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Speaker 1: and they were like this is fucking bad, and just

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00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: was like here and check this out. So I feel

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Speaker 1: like at many levels there are people who, yeah, who

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Speaker 1: have been like lifelong servants of certain departments and are

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Speaker 1: just like this cannot stand. There was a article towards

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Speaker 1: the end of last week. I think it was from

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post. I need to find that and we'll

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Speaker 1: put it in footnotes. But the journalist went and asked

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Speaker 1: these people who are sources on the Trump White House,

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Speaker 1: why do you leak? And what is it like being

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Speaker 1: a leaker in this White House? And it was interesting.

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: The reasons they leak are basically what you would expect.

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00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: They're concern for the future of the country and you know.

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Speaker 1: But then the ways they leak are really interesting too,

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00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: because they will study quotes by people who they work

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Speaker 1: with and use vocal ticks of the people they work

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Speaker 1: with to cover their tracks to make it seem like

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Speaker 1: they're not the leaker and that the other person might

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Speaker 1: be the leaker. What they'll so they'll look at quotes

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Speaker 1: from somebody and then use that voice, that voice essentially

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Speaker 1: to give direct quotes to the White House. Well wild

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Speaker 1: Adam sand Leary approach to leaking information. I don't think

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00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: they do an exact like you know, I am it's

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Speaker 1: me patch. One of the podcasts I was listening to,

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Speaker 1: I think it was The Ringer Weekly podcast with David

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Speaker 1: Shoemaker where they do a media deep dive. I think

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Speaker 1: they were speculating that this could be somebody who realized

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Speaker 1: they betrayed themselves with a leaking quote, and then we're

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Speaker 1: like yeah, I cover my basis by pretending to be

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00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: that other guy. Yeah, so I don't know, but it's

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00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: an interesting time to Leak culture is fascinating. Weird hacker

597
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: culture is fascinating. I think that, you know, we should

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00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: just if if you're leaking, you're hacking, just visually identify

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00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: yourself by getting frosty tips and wearing tiny, tiny little sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: The only way easier for us to break these stories.

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Speaker 1: But the other amazing thing is that all almost a

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00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: lot of these people who are leaking have to have

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Speaker 1: been put there by the president himself. And this is

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Speaker 1: something that we're also seeing. And I want to move

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00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: on briefly to the Mueller investigation. We keep seeing the

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Speaker 1: conservative base sort of assuming that people who Trump has appointed,

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00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: who were hired by him, given the job by him,

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Speaker 1: are in a vast conspiracy to take him down for

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Speaker 1: reasons that nobody is clear on. I think I've now

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00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: heard that Mueller is out to get him because Mueller

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00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: is friends with Comb and he wants to get back

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00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: at him for that. But it's not clear why Rosenstein

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Speaker 1: is out to get him, because Trump hired him and

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Speaker 1: pointed him. And you're saying the sort of conservative people

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Speaker 1: are spinning that, like, these appointees are actually I thought

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Speaker 1: you were saying that there is this concerted effort. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, the conservative take on this in

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00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: order to explain away all of these sourced leaks that

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00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: are pointing to just vast incompetence and corruption, they're having

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Speaker 1: to formulate this quote deep state cover up, that is

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Speaker 1: this vast conspiracy that is all out to get him

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Speaker 1: and coordinating to create this narrative. But Trump would have

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Speaker 1: had to hire all these various conspirators on his own

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Speaker 1: and like put them in place for that to be true. Well, yeah,

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00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: or they just have the complete disregard for the fact that, yes,

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Speaker 1: many of these people are in positions that were appointees

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Speaker 1: or whatever, or lifelong Republicans. So I guess it's at

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00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: this point, you know, because the stories get worse and worse,

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: or just the smoke is getting more intense, and the coincidences,

630
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: if you want to call them coincidences, become more and

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: more frequent. It's harder to imagine a version of events

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00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: that you know is completely benign. This weekend, there were

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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: revelations that I assumed we're going to take the entire country,

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00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: both the fort that approves of Trump and that disapproves

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: of Trump in the direction of, well, let's see this

636
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Mueller thing out, let's see this smaller investigation now. But

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00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: instead it seems to be a case where things are

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: continuing to every piece of evidence causes both sides to

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Speaker 1: accelerate in the opposite direction. Right. We've talked before about

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Speaker 1: how this is one of the key ingredients for civil war,

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Speaker 1: is when you have two separate sides of the country,

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Speaker 1: and everything that each side here takes them further and

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Speaker 1: further apart. And so this morning there was a huge

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Speaker 1: j op ed that is the number one trending article

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Speaker 1: on the Hill, that is a former Democratic Party operative

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Speaker 1: named Mark Penn who is saying it's time to end

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Speaker 1: the Muller investigation. He basically lays out the argument that

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Speaker 1: I've heard the conservative argument is fairly consistent against the

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Speaker 1: Mueller investigation, that it's this deep state thing, and that

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Speaker 1: there was never evidence in the first place, and never

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Speaker 1: evidence that anybody can point to in concrete terms. And

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Speaker 1: the latest you know, revelations of meetings at Trump Tower

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Speaker 1: where Donald Trump Jr. Opened the meeting with a Russian

654
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Speaker 1: Kremlin operative by saying I hear you have information for

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Speaker 1: us that doesn't it doesn't play into doesn't add any

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Speaker 1: fuel to the suspicion that something might be going on here.

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Speaker 1: And now there's evidence of more conversations that happened at

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Speaker 1: Trump Tower. Uh. This this new meeting was between the

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Speaker 1: guy who headed up Blackwater and Prince Betsy Devas brother

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Speaker 1: Eric Prince, the just shadiest dude in the world, and

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Speaker 1: an operative from the UAE and Saudi Arabia. This guy

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Speaker 1: George Nader and a social media expert for a firm

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Speaker 1: which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers who specialized in

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Speaker 1: collecting information and shaping opinion through social media, which is

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Speaker 1: a fancy way of describing social media manipulation. Campaign. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I literally can't keep all these people we need

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Speaker 1: like a guess who board, it's really people. I can't

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Speaker 1: keep it straight. There's not enough red string, right, and

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because there's just this abundance of information that

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Speaker 1: is like, well, that's clearly the behavior of a guilty person.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, so it is technically illegal for a campaign

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Speaker 1: for a public office in America to work with foreign

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Speaker 1: foreign money, and these conversations have people saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: the social media expert being like, we will here's our

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Speaker 1: multimillion dollar proposal to help your father become president and

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Speaker 1: just because then he will allow us to continue the factory.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, because I'm sure it's a very clear choice.

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Speaker 1: If you're like, do you want a world where Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton is the president and is going to try and

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Speaker 1: enforce things or some guy who's sleazy and can literally

681
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: you can just pull up to Trump toown and be like, hey,

682
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: how much you need man, because let's work something out.

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Speaker 1: I do need the people who are you know, thet

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Speaker 1: who are critical of Trump to just be a little

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Speaker 1: bit more focused, because I feel like you're hearing all

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Speaker 1: of the information, just all these different stories. And for instance,

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Speaker 1: there was a story a couple of weeks ago where

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Speaker 1: a judge came after Mueller about man of Fort and

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Speaker 1: how how do you justify going after man Afford? It

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the case. And that was

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Speaker 1: the last I heard of that story. But apparently they

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Speaker 1: explained their case to the judge and the judge was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: I get it, and they moved on from that. But

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Speaker 1: that was a key piece of evidence I think because

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Speaker 1: the forty two percent that approve of Trump have fewer

696
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Speaker 1: pieces of evidence, and so they like cling to them

697
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Speaker 1: and use them more carefully, whereas the people who actually

698
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Speaker 1: think there might be something here in the Muller investigation

699
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: are just they're just burning through every new revelation like

700
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Speaker 1: it's junk food. They are. They are doing the Homeland thing.

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Speaker 1: They got their wall set up with all the red string,

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00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,479
Speaker 1: right and yeah and on. I think on the other side,

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Speaker 1: for conservatives, if there aren't like real indictments or things

704
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: like that, they're not really paying attention to those kinds

705
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Speaker 1: of developments because that's again just part of the noise

706
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: of this witch hunt that they don't care about because

707
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: nothing happened. It's you're at the Mueller cook out and

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00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: you're serving up burgers and like then then making too

709
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: much noise around any single story. It always works because yeah,

710
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: like are critical of Trump just get exhausted. Like if

711
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: you scream in someone's ear about some stuff that's relevant

712
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: and some stuff that isn't for long enough, it's like

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Speaker 1: you just get you know, like people, Yeah, you get exhausted,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, and if you're like me, lose

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Speaker 1: track of who's who because there's a new name every

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Speaker 1: two seconds, and there are people entering the story and

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Speaker 1: people exit. We can't accept you to keep up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're you're a woman on the go. You have to

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00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: do quick. You know, shallow grave barriers. I got to

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Speaker 1: take a shallow grave on my way home. The revolving

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Speaker 1: door of characters you have to keep track of is

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Speaker 1: so complex, and I understand why people get exhausted, but

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Speaker 1: it's also like, yeah, that's what they want, and I

724
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Speaker 1: think I have too, especially like as we talk about

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00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: it more and more and I sort of slowly have

726
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: just adopted the mentality to kind of like, look, yes,

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Speaker 1: let's investigate this. I can't put all all of this

728
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Speaker 1: faith in this that this is to correct everything, because

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Speaker 1: it's I don't think it will. And also I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know if how much political will there is

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Speaker 1: in d C to actually do anything to bring this

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Speaker 1: president in at least not until the mid terms. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's partially that because there is less evidence

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Speaker 1: on the side of the fort they just have a

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Speaker 1: single argument that they're relying. Therefore, it becomes more coherent

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Speaker 1: and it has the appearance of their argument being more disciplined,

737
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: whereas the left's case is sort of constantly evolving because

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Speaker 1: there's all this evidence and new stories piling in. I

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00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: also think it has to do with the fact that

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Speaker 1: we've brought up before on the show. The left doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a single opinion based outlet, that is, they're clear

742
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Speaker 1: and obvious, you know, mouthpiece the way that the right does.

743
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Speaker 1: In Fox News. You know, the left is still led

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00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: by journalistic institutions, and journalistic institutions just have the mission

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00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: statement of reporting facts, not coming up with a coherent

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Speaker 1: argument one way or another. And I think that also

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Speaker 1: keeps things somewhat scattered because I think also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: even with MSNBC obviously being the most left leaning, you'll

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Speaker 1: get versions of it, but they don't quite venture into

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Speaker 1: the world of fantasy like Fox does. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's very raw, raw Democrats on MSNBC that and

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Speaker 1: sometimes you know, people like Laurence O'Donnell completely overlooked things,

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Speaker 1: which whatever. But I think, yeah, I know what you mean,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's nothing that's quite as aggressive as the

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Speaker 1: sort of media machine on the right. It's a yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's and it's a lose lose because they're like oversimplifying

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00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: stuff to the point of like fantasy and forest and craziness.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, you don't want that for the left,

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Speaker 1: But what is a way to present, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know and and filter out the

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Speaker 1: noise Like it's so it's so hard to do. I

762
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: think the only way to do it is for everybody

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00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: to listen to the daily like, good, thank you, that's

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Speaker 1: what we're here for for just really unchecked information. But

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Speaker 1: even on the side of yeah, even on the side

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Speaker 1: of MSNBC, MSNBC is just another voice in this coophony

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00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: of different sources that people on the left pay attention to,

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Speaker 1: whereas the right, it's like the whole Republican Party has

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Speaker 1: a very disciplined information architecture that is coming down from

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Speaker 1: Fox News, and you know, Fox News's loudest voice speaks

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Speaker 1: to the president every night to like decompress. And Fox

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Speaker 1: News was started by Roger Ailes, who was a Republican

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Speaker 1: political operative for Nixon and was like, there's room for

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Speaker 1: me to create a political machine and you know, make

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Speaker 1: it a key player in politics. Well, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: our podcast is still bigger than the Fox News podcast,

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Speaker 1: So you know we're on our way. Yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: nail this. Uh yeah, Russell Limboff doesn't have shipped on us.

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Speaker 1: What are you saying? All right, we're he's the whole

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Speaker 1: time I'm here, this handfuls of I only I only

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Speaker 1: ride the Yellow submarine. All right, we're gonna take another

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Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

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Speaker 1: And the big event of the weekend was, not surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: the royal wedding. Twenty nine million people in the US

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Speaker 1: alone watched it, even though it was you know, four

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Speaker 1: in the morning. Specific even my own mother got up

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Speaker 1: the crack of dawn to watch them. What was her

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Speaker 1: review of the texting me and was like I posted

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, she was like, oh, you watch your birthday

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Speaker 1: twins wedding. He's losing his hair too. My mom is

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Speaker 1: a cold blood, is savage, but you know what, she

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00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: made me a strong man, because you know, when you're

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Speaker 1: just getting torn down like that every day. Yeah, honestly, Twitter,

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00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: they can't do anything to me when that's I get

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Speaker 1: direct text from like that. I mean, she loves it.

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Speaker 1: I saw yesterday and she's all about the pomp and

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00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: circumstance and the fascinators were so fascinating to her. Um,

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Speaker 1: and yeah. Then I also had my own moment of

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Speaker 1: just sheer fear when she said, I'm just curious when

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Speaker 1: I will get to go to my royal wedding, which

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Speaker 1: was her putting pressure on me to get married. That's

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Speaker 1: the first time, and that's the first time she's ever

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Speaker 1: done in my life. Every time she's still been so chills.

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Speaker 1: He's never like blah blah blah, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the funk happened to my mom. She watched his

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Speaker 1: Row wedding and was like, excuse you, when is my

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Speaker 1: royal When I were a fascinator, I'm like, look, Mom,

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Speaker 1: I'll get you one and you can just go to

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Speaker 1: Target wearing it. But you're gonna be no royal wedding.

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Speaker 1: That is a very ambitious opening bid for what your

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Speaker 1: wedding is. Yeah, Like like, whoa you got that kind

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Speaker 1: of money? Mom? Yeah, Um, so I do this at

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Lutheran Church if I can afford it. Anyway, I

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Speaker 1: was awake for the royal wedding, Jamie, you were too,

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Speaker 1: I was, and you got up for did you send

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Speaker 1: the larm? I set an alarm? I did it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I set an alarm and then I watched, and then

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Speaker 1: I fell asleep, and then I got back up and

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Speaker 1: they were kissing. It be part it was. I woke

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Speaker 1: up for the best part. I was awake because of

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Speaker 1: my eleven week old I won't I won't lie. I

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Speaker 1: did not do it out of you know, loyalty to

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Speaker 1: the Zeit Gang. But I was up for it, the

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Speaker 1: alliance to the crown, the crown. But there were a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that I found amazing. One is that

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Speaker 1: they actually do the if anyone present has any reason

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Speaker 1: these two should not be married speak now thing in

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Speaker 1: royal weddings, which I've never been to a wedding where

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Speaker 1: they did that, and I thought that was really I

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Speaker 1: thought that was like a rum com thing. No, I

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Speaker 1: mean to weddings for that, the ones where like the

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Speaker 1: ceremony or is very not like uninventive or not creative.

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Speaker 1: I've heard it there. Unless I'm marrying you, because I am,

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Speaker 1: I would say, I am an ordained minister, and yes

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Speaker 1: you've married people. But shout out to christ Say shout

836
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Speaker 1: out to Brittany Steve, you know, shout out to Amanda

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Speaker 1: and her Man. You know, I mean like three times,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Mike and Julie. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're all doing well. They're doing well, they'll have children's

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say that I do it right, but yeah, I I've

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Speaker 1: only seen that, like like a sort of traditional wedding

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Speaker 1: I went to when I was younger, and then another

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Speaker 1: one in Vegas and like a long pause too, like

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Speaker 1: just's X was there wearing black? Really, yes, yes she was,

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Speaker 1: and it was It was the sort of thing where

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Speaker 1: she I think at the time he had proposed to

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Speaker 1: her and she was like, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: a member of the royal family. So she is sort

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Speaker 1: of like she wants to go to law school and

851
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: have a life. And so they broke up and then

852
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: he got with me and worked out. But she went

853
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: to the wedding and yeah, so I was I was

854
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: hoping I have something to say. Excuse me, Wait, so

855
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: what would happen? I guess in this procedural sense of

856
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: a wedding, if someone did speak now and didn't forever

857
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: hold their piece, does that mean you could be like, well,

858
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: what y'all think should call it off? Whose? Whose decision

859
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: like that's a good enough freezing guys. Sorry, I have

860
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: to learn. I'm sure someone will hit us on Twitter

861
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: like they were to correct us about many things that

862
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: we got wrong. A supposedly got wrong. Apparently they the

863
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: Royal family doesn't get their money from Texas or something.

864
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: And there was an American princess before Megan is not

865
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: the first. Uh yeah, but I'm guessing like in terms

866
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: of you know, like you were saying, the best man

867
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: was literally there to fucking fight anybody off. Yeah, Like

868
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: what the speak now thing was like if there used

869
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: to be the audience had the power to like nullify

870
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: the the ceremonious and realistically it's like speak now or

871
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: statistically wait a couple of years and then got a

872
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: good chance. There was the pretty amazing performance of stand

873
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: By Me by The Kingdom of choir was very I

874
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: don't know what was it about it, just the coral

875
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: arrangement of it just spoke he yeah, it was. Did

876
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: you see this the choir part two? I had to

877
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: like go back in the highlights, but yeah, the only

878
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: thing I saw visually the wedding were Posh and David

879
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Beckham looked like they were also at a funeral. The

880
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: way they were pulled up, I was like, yo, that's

881
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: swagged though with that? Uh? And also what was it?

882
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: Was it Pipa Middleton who everyone's saying flameder looked like

883
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: the can of Arizona. Yes, that was also kind of

884
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: amazing great, but that's like one of those things where

885
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: only and I think an American who knows the Arizona

886
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: Can would have been like, oh no, no, no, people,

887
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. That's the Arizona Can.

888
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: You're dressing like the cheapest beverage possible, high fructose corn

889
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: syrup bomb. You get it. Go to CVS on a

890
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: good week, get two for one. Embarrassing, embarrassing. Um. There

891
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: was also what else? The queen wore a light green

892
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: skirt with coat and hat combo where she dress like

893
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: an Arnold Palmer. I lost a thousand dollars on just

894
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: a photographic reprint can just on it. That would have

895
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: been a wave. That's a specific Yet, um, who else

896
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: did I care about that? I even saw? Oh? One

897
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: interesting thing that I read was that at the one

898
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: of the after parties, Serena Williams was wiping the floor

899
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: with people at beer pong Now this was reported in

900
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: the Sun. So again, like I say, take this with

901
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: an entire can of Morton salt. But they were reporting

902
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: that in the in the after party that yes, she

903
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: was wiping the floor. Now, the description of beer pong

904
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: is one of my favorites. Uh, they were saying that

905
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: this is from the Sun. The bride's US heritage was

906
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: marked with a boozy American university drinking game beer pong,

907
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: where players throw table tennis balls in two cups of beers,

908
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: which their opponents then have to consume. That is the

909
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: most academic description of beer pong, And I just love

910
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: that when we're like the shitty game of beer pong

911
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: is written up in such an intelligent way. This is

912
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: what cultural appropriation feels. Like. They're making our shitty cultural

913
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: thing and uh, you know, looking down on it, but

914
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: celebrating it in a way. Do you think articulating. Do

915
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: you think Serena was like even busting the tricks, like

916
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: like blowing, like if the ball was spinning the cup,

917
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: like like blowing it out, or like blocking or like

918
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: bouncing you know, whatever depends on if she called no

919
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: blows bro oh yeah right, and it's like all right,

920
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: no put that diamond, Bro, can you put that into

921
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: a diamond? I'm triggered by how much you guys know

922
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: about beer truly, although my my podcast co host Caitlin

923
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: Darante is maybe the best beer pop player I've ever

924
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: seen in my entire really. Yes, she's so good, good

925
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: many hidden talents. Yes, No, I want to see this

926
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: because I love, Yeah, I'm terrible beer pong. Uh. So

927
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: I like to see when people are just like they've

928
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: just got the stroke down. It's always are you least

929
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: expect to? Yeah? M m um, yeah, Like I would

930
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: have never suspected Serena Williams would be good at an

931
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: athletic competitive thing. I'm surprised and they're like, and then

932
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: she also like wrecked everybody in the game of informal

933
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: soccer or football. No, I mean, I just I wouldn't

934
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: such a like prolific athletes do anything. Yeah. James Cordon

935
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: apparently started a dance off that saw Charles william and

936
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Harry take to the dance floor. Do you think they

937
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: Megan and her mother? Uh? And what do you think

938
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: they did? Like the song? Was it? I wonder it was?

939
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: Did they whip in the name? Oh? Probably? Do you

940
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: want to get in my car outs, I let to

941
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: do a quick segment. I'll fight James Cordon and win.

942
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: He's like so generic though and unoffensive. It's just the

943
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: frequency at which you see him that just angers you

944
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: to your pay. If I ever see James Cordon near

945
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: a pool, I'm pushing him in. I'm pushing them in. Wow,

946
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: just so blast that out right now, James Cordy, If

947
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: you see James, it's ugly. I hope you're not near

948
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: a pool. No, there's just just that that's just like

949
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: a personality trait that drives me insane of just like

950
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: here's someone who, if they are not seen or paid

951
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: attention to for forty five seconds, will cause a scene.

952
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, hey, does anybody want to dance

953
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: with me? He was like sort of informally dubbed like

954
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: to be the m C right right, yeah yeah. So

955
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like you know, they were like,

956
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: oh God, get them Mike away from James. I think

957
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: they're like, hey man, You're like you're like the god

958
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: of partying right now. So James Corner, let's get the

959
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: most British boring person we possibly can and James Gordon

960
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: came in, he's there, and I just I don't know,

961
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: I don't know British Seacrest. I'm not here for it. Yeah.

962
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: The only thing worse is if Bill Murray trots in.

963
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will find out that he was there

964
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: in secret, like jumped behind the bar and was bartending,

965
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: and then every like worst person you knew in college

966
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: will be like, oh my god, do Mari is a

967
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: freaking god so epic, and you're just like, stop, stop

968
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: going to places you're not invited. Uh. George Clooney waltzed

969
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: with both Kate and Megan. That's the only man who

970
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: probably could have you know that. Everybody like yo, George, Yeah,

971
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: you know that's like you're like, you're actually doing me

972
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: a favor because this is my wife's dream was to

973
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: dance with you. It's my dream to be with George

974
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: Clooney at one point to he's so dreamy, he seems

975
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: so tender. Do you think he seems tender? Yeah? Yeah,

976
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: And also he's just living that life out in Italy

977
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: all the time on La Cuomo or like Como or

978
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: whatever it's called. Will. The thing you have to understand

979
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: about George, though, is he's real prankster on the set

980
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: does the set That's that's the word around every time

981
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: I see a movie. I'm like, but we're they having

982
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: fun on the set. That's like have you seen the

983
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: Wet Hot American Summer documentary? That? Yeah, When they did

984
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: the rerelease on Netflix, they also did a feature like

985
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: like not a feature length but a pretty like a

986
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: good documentary about the production of it, and that you

987
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: can tell that production was just party time, like they're

988
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: all frank city prank city fun times, just you know,

989
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: like they were basically a camp together while they were shooting,

990
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: and it was just it seemed like they had a blast. Man,

991
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: that does sound great. On the other side of that coin,

992
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: Caddyshack apparently was so like epic and outrageous Yes I

993
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: am that friend from college, epic and outrageous freaking movie

994
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: behind a set that one of the producers was like,

995
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: they stopped the production, sent him to rehab, and he

996
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: died of an overdose like after almost immediately after the movie,

997
00:56:54,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: but everybody was just doing talk about Yeah, am I right? Yeah?

998
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: Usually I just drink a lot of diet coke and

999
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: then go home. No, man, you gotta do dangerous amounts

1000
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: of drugs to success. Jamie, It's been a pleasure of

1001
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: having you. Thank you for having me. Where can people

1002
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: find you? You can find me on Twitter dot com

1003
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: at Jamie Loft's Help, and you can listen to my podcast,

1004
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: The Bechtel Cast with Caitlin Torante every Thursday. It is

1005
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: a wonderful podcast. What have you guys covered recently? Actually,

1006
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: we asked Caitlin that she was our guest on Friday.

1007
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: I bet your answer would be very similar. And also

1008
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people were really innswered this question the

1009
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: way she answered. Do you and Caitlin actually hang me?

1010
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: And yeah? Like almost every day. They were loving that

1011
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: because she was like, I asked Caitlin that about you,

1012
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, we hang hang. I planned the

1013
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: woman's goddamn surprise party. Unost she was hungover on the

1014
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: cast the other Paddington theme, it was, yeah, everyone was

1015
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: supposed to dress with Paddington um and we were in

1016
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: I chose maybe the darkest bar possible, so I'm assuming

1017
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: everyone did. I don't know. It didn't really look. I

1018
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that there were some red hats. Okay, that's

1019
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: only need to know in a Duffel code has another

1020
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: thing I learned piece of garments. That's basically the defining

1021
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: code that had Why weren't people dresses Saddington at the

1022
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: real wedding? Real marketing over because that's true every party

1023
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: I planned, people are contact her for weddings, bar Mitz

1024
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: and debos. Miles. Where can people find you? Oh? You

1025
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles Great. Great.

1026
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: You can find me at Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter.

1027
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. Where

1028
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1029
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily Zeitgeist dot com where

1030
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: we post our episodes and air but no lick off

1031
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode.

1032
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 1: Uh that is gonna do it for today. We also

1033
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: link off to the songs that we ride out on Miles.

1034
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: What is that going to be? Okay? So, uh, you know,

1035
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm really in a in a jade mood recently, And

1036
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: there's this one track on Commons like Water for Chocolate

1037
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: called Heat And when I first heard, I was like, y'all,

1038
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I love this track. It's got really cool drum thing.

1039
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Do a little digging find out what the sample is.

1040
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: It's actually a sample of the Tony Allen song called

1041
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: a Sequel. And Tony Allen is a drummer. He's a

1042
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: drum for fella POUTI uh just a really dope, just

1043
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: kind of jam song. So this is actually the original

1044
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: song by Tony Allen called a skol uh. And you know,

1045
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: if you're a drummer you like rhythms and stuff, you

1046
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: don't like this track and just enjoy. And if you

1047
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: want to hear this sample flipped in a track, check

1048
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: out Heat by Common. But this is Tony Allen. Al alright,

1049
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna write out on that. We will be back

1050
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talking together the

1051
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: the road as God do roadd ask a si God

1052
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Speaker 1: to road as as go to road as he as

1053
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Speaker 1: he God do road as he go, as he cook

1054
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Speaker 1: to road, d as he as he got to roaded,

1055
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: as I said to Rod as he called as he called.

1056
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Speaker 1: Oh they go do they want way you want my dad?

1057
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh they go do they won't win? Oh they go.

1058
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: Do they want weak to want my video dad? Oh

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Speaker 1: I dream won my lady who Jimney want yo be

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Speaker 1: I won't be We got just coop I want to

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Speaker 1: be while we was? Oh Jenny won on Yo? Would

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Speaker 1: you want your uh? Who got Jesse? Good? By my

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Speaker 1: do this? Oh? Why why did we miss? Ohne more day?

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Speaker 1: When want you fa o? They do? Give? They want

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Speaker 1: week give on my video? Dad? What do they won't be? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The more we my young dad? What do they won't be?

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Speaker 1: One more time? One more? One more that I lost? Holy?

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Speaker 1: What do they want with giant my jam? Holy? What

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Speaker 1: do they won't we? Holy? What do they won't we? Oh?

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Speaker 1: um um um um and the boy to love you?

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Speaker 1: Who to love you? Dad? Oh? The rock holy woking

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Speaker 1: Oh they look they won't be back? How do you

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