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Speaker 1: And welcome to Monday's this year a big blue kioff

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Speaker 1: live if here on giants dot com. Here's Paul Tina

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Speaker 1: on Lance met O. Good to be with you for

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Speaker 1: the next sixty minutes. Two zero one four five one

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Speaker 1: So the Giants wrapped up yet another O T. A

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Speaker 1: will get into what Pat Shermer had to say. We'll

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Speaker 1: tell you about some of the highlights from practice, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get to your phone calls and your tweets along

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Speaker 1: the way. So let's start with some of the things

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Speaker 1: some of the highlights Paul, and you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that he mentioned, which was an emphasis in

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Speaker 1: today's practice was they've reached just about the midway point

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Speaker 1: staff and they said, this is gonna be a practice

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Speaker 1: As we get said, for the start of minicampage right

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Speaker 1: acamp well, and that's why today he gave a lot

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Speaker 1: to have yet to maybe show enough of their wares. Uh.

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Speaker 1: According to Shermer, they had a big personnel meeting last

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Speaker 1: maybe at least the half, if not two thirds. He

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Speaker 1: didn't use that fraction. I'm interpreting that fraction just because

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Speaker 1: and maybe even some of those guys may compete for

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Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of a neat thing to

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Speaker 1: see a bunch of those guys. In fact, they also

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Speaker 1: moved Kyle or Letto to the third team offense today.

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Speaker 1: He had been operating as a fourth team offensive quarterback

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Speaker 1: until today's Sesshi gats Tanny was ahead of him in

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Speaker 1: And I would agree with you, Paul. I think if

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Speaker 1: at least thirty guys that they probably like to get

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's an outrageous number to throw out there. Plus,

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Speaker 1: remember Paul, there's been a lot of transactions that have

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Speaker 1: the tight end who they signed today, and before we

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Speaker 1: As you know, um, not every player attends every single

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Speaker 1: one of the voluntary offseason sessions. So for example, Odell

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Speaker 1: you know, so he got a he got a lot

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Speaker 1: And he's one of those guys who, again Sherman wasn't

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Speaker 1: So that was one thing that I noticed today. Orion Stewart,

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Speaker 1: They signed him only a few weeks ago. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: even though Halapio the center is not a young guy,

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Speaker 1: today and when asked about it, Coach Shermer said, Hallopeo

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Speaker 1: surprise to coach Shermer and the new staff. Halapeo is

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Speaker 1: a player that got a lot of reps last season

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Speaker 1: it out. That's great. Competition is wonderful. We thought that

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Speaker 1: Brett Jones will be on this team. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you know what, the best five get to play Lands. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with the air plull, but also I

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I wanted to point out before

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Speaker 1: Coach Schumer was asked about a fullback today. Now we've

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Speaker 1: a roster decision. That's a numbers game that the Giants

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Speaker 1: the Angela Williams and he and or vice versa Barkley

430
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Speaker 1: as a blocker as a ruse sometimes and actually used

431
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Speaker 1: Stewart as the fullback. Does that make any sense? Well,

432
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Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know if you want to

433
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Speaker 1: put Barkley in that position is a full back. I mean,

434
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Speaker 1: I would not recommend that. I don't think you want

435
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Speaker 1: him to take those types of hits as a lead blocker.

436
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Speaker 1: Are you suggesting they just use him as a decoy

437
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: in a two man backfield? I mean, to actually use

438
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: him as the lead blocker would not be something I

439
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Speaker 1: want to But if you want to throw him in

440
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Speaker 1: a two man backfield and use him as a decoy,

441
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: I could see that happening. Yeah, I mean in terms

442
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Speaker 1: of the alignment. But but I mean to your point, Scott,

443
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart and d'angela Williams would share the backfield. They

444
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Speaker 1: would rotate it and out, and there were some times

445
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Speaker 1: we're on the field together, but they were not un

446
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Speaker 1: as aalizing Jonathan Steward d'angela Williams is the lead block

447
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: for one another, so that they can then clear a

448
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Speaker 1: pane that's happened, that's not gonna happen. Jonathan Stewart is

449
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Speaker 1: a fullback. I think it's really unrealistic. Okay. Yeah, Also

450
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Speaker 1: with the accumulation of all these tight ends. I was

451
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Speaker 1: just curious how on the depth chart Darrell Adams is

452
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Speaker 1: looked upon by the coaching staff right now, because he

453
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Speaker 1: seems to have a lot of talent speed wise, and

454
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: he's a fairly decent blocker. So is this uh? And

455
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure by June there might be some more roster changes, obviously,

456
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: but I was just curious if where how they gauge

457
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Speaker 1: Terrell Adams now and whether he's going to be, you know,

458
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Speaker 1: sort of part of the offensive strategy of pet. He's

459
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: had a good training camp, Let's not kill ourselves. He's

460
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: had a good spring so far. I shouldn't say training camp.

461
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: We're not there yet. But he's had a good off season,

462
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: there is no question about that. But now look at

463
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Speaker 1: the bodies there. You know, Kyle Carter is here from

464
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Speaker 1: the Vikings, so we know he's coming in. We know

465
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Speaker 1: O'Malley who was unable to practice today he was on

466
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Speaker 1: the bikes. But this is a guy who you know,

467
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Speaker 1: they signed in the off season thinking that he might

468
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 1: have some upside. So there is going to be some

469
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: competition for that third tight end spot. I mean, is

470
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Speaker 1: he gonna win it? I honestly don't know. I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: someone's going to be the third tight end, yeah, or

472
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Speaker 1: are they gonna keep for you know, that remains to

473
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Speaker 1: be a question. You know, Shane Smith is also thrown

474
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Speaker 1: into that tight end slash full back Roll Ellison is

475
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: that dual threat. Do they count them within the three?

476
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Do they add them as the fourth guy? You know,

477
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: that remains to BC who they decided to keep an

478
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: extra offensive lineman instead of going with the fourth time.

479
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: That's another factor. I would say that right now, Ingram

480
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: and Ellison I think should feel pretty safe about their rosters.

481
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: So therefore, you know, you're talking about Kyle Carter, familiarity

482
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Speaker 1: with the system, familiarity with Shermer O'Malley who you mentioned,

483
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Speaker 1: and then Darrell Adams, who you know has been on

484
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Speaker 1: the roster. But I think we're beyond the scholarship phase

485
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: at this point. And keep in mind, Dave Gentleman has

486
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Speaker 1: no allegiance to Jarrell Adams whatsoever. He didn't draft him,

487
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: So you know, you can't say, now, oh well, just

488
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: because he may be flashed here or there at times

489
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: in the previous regime, that that's gonna give him a

490
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: leg up when they weren't around for them. Look at

491
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Speaker 1: it this way. It's his third pro season coming up.

492
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to show and earn everything that he gets.

493
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with saying that because the resume

494
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Speaker 1: that he's put forth to this point has not earned

495
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: him a concrete spot, right and the formulation of Actually,

496
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: as you get into training camp, a lot of these

497
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: players at the Giants have added to the roster. Is

498
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Speaker 1: everything sort of going to weed out by then? Or

499
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Speaker 1: do they think the coaches will have a good idea

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Speaker 1: of who they want on the roster prior to uh,

501
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, the actual training camp beginning. When you say

502
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Speaker 1: the roster, are we talking about the fifty three man roster?

503
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Were talking about the ninety man roster more thet man roster?

504
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: Or do they have do they envision where or where

505
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Speaker 1: they think there are players are going to be because

506
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Speaker 1: obviously they have ninety doll in camp. I think the

507
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: depth chart is too wide open at this point. I

508
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they've they've got much of a clue.

509
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: It would surprise me if they had a really good idea.

510
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: This is a three win football team from last season

511
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: and a whole new administration. I think they would be

512
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: doing a disservice and an injustice to everybody in that

513
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: locker room if they had a pretty good idea of

514
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Speaker 1: who their fifty three guys were right now. Yeah, I mean,

515
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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that they probably envision,

516
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: you know, who they think is going to start in

517
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: most of the roles. Shut. I think there's a lot

518
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: up for grabs in terms of the remaining starting positions,

519
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: and then just the entire depth chart. I don't think

520
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: anybody has locked up a position because you even hear

521
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: the coaches, the players, and even Shermer himself say, until

522
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: they put the pads on, it's very difficult for us

523
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: to say that we fully have a good grasp of

524
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: what every single player on this roster. I mean, there's

525
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of second team spots that have

526
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: yet to be decided, and lord knows, I don't think

527
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Speaker 1: anybody who was quote third team on the depth chart

528
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: has any right to assume that they're going to be

529
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Speaker 1: on the roster, right. I appreciate it, Just curious about

530
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, where the roster actually staid. Appreciate the phone,

531
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Speaker 1: thanks so much, awaying In, Let's head back to the lines,

532
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: we check in with Kevin and Florida. Kevin, what's happening, Hey, guys, Uh,

533
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, the guy in front of me stole a

534
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: little bit of my thunder. I was, I gotta talk

535
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: about Darrell Adams. Do you guys recall this last year

536
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: in South Carolina's collapsed to coach to quit in the

537
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: middle of the season and the only thing they had

538
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: on offense and sub and he cost sixty somewhat passes

539
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: when they had nothing else to do. And I know

540
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: when he came into the SEC he was considered potentially

541
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: in at ingram O J. Howard potential, but it never

542
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: worked out for him in South Carolina. It's probably never

543
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: really used the tight end as a featured receiver. I

544
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: think he's the kind of guy who when he said

545
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: he's had a good camp, I think he his best

546
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: years are ahead of him, whether it's here or somewhere else,

547
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: because he's, uh, you know, he really you know back

548
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: then he was wasn't very well coached there at the

549
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: time of South Carolina, especially his last year, and then

550
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: so he's someone I think, uh, he's been underutilized his

551
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: whole career. I think he's the kind of guy that

552
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: could really develop and I think Sherman's and Shoulder are

553
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: the kind of guys that can bring it out for

554
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: him and be very surprised if he doesn't at least

555
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: make the team. But you know, you never know he's

556
00:27:54,800 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: going to have a chance. And the other thing, I mean,

557
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: that's really what what is going to allow him to

558
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: make a name for himself there. They've got to trust

559
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: that he can't just go out and run rounds and

560
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: catch passes, but he has to be a reliable guy

561
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: that if they need him on the line of scrimmage,

562
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: he can block. And I think that's the area of

563
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: his game even if you go back to college that

564
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: is still raw and it's still being developed. Yeah, I

565
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: think what heard him was in his last year in

566
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina, story of tight end was earlier blocker. They

567
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to do that because they had nothing

568
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: else to no one else to throw the ball to. Basically,

569
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: he only won one game that year. Here's what they

570
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: know about him. He's got the physical tools to go

571
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: out there and do it. Now he's gonna have to

572
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: be able to pick up the offense and then prove

573
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: that he can do it in a live game, because

574
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: quite honestly, it's not even can you block? It's no, no, no, no.

575
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: Do you know the play? Can you adjust on the fly?

576
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: Can you pick up that blitz? Can you pick up

577
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: that stunt? Can you know it's it's even when we

578
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: talk about a guy being a good blocker, I want

579
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: to make something very clear. Being a good blocker tails

580
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: more than physically being able to block, and also in tails,

581
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: being able to pick it up here and understand that

582
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: on the move. I need to know which guy I'm

583
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: supposed to block, and sometimes that doesn't happen knowing your assignment.

584
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Say they with a running back and passed portend, no question,

585
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: just embracing the physicality, it's knowing, Okay, who do you

586
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: have based on what the offensive line? I think too

587
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: often when we talk about blocking, fans will will just

588
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: think that, oh, is the guy physical enough to take

589
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: on a player? No, when we talk about a guy

590
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: being a good blocker, he's got to get the mental

591
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: part of the game down too. M hm, Y don't

592
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: in college is first couple of years in practice. He

593
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: did block against Davian Clowney. So I'm sure that I'm

594
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: sure that he has some value I'd be surprised if

595
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: he didn't make the dam. I'm kind of rooting for him.

596
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: A little different topic that you talked about a little

597
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: bit last week about the kickoff rule. I'd like to

598
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: actually see them do something like they do in baseball,

599
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: and you go out, you flip a coin to decide

600
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: which way wanted to send. The home team gets the

601
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: ball to start the game, I mean visiting team. The

602
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: home team gets it to start the second half. And

603
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: if you want to cut down on kick clops, you

604
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: can eliminate two kick clops the game. Just by doing

605
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: that got kilos down. I hear you, and and you

606
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: know what, here's the problem. There are probably about twenty

607
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: five different people who would have twenty five different suggestions

608
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: on how to modify kick golfs and I have no

609
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: idea which one is really the best. We could talk

610
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: about this for the next figure out which one is

611
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: the best. And Kevin, listen to appreciate the phone call.

612
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: When you also start thick factoring in, you know, flipping

613
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: of coins and luck and this is that you know

614
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: it almost to me takes away from the sport completely.

615
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: We're not playing football anymore. We're basically just hoping that

616
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: the right side of the coin bounces your way. So

617
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, you want the teams, you want the players

618
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: to be more often than not designing the outcome of

619
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: the game. So that's why I'm not necessarily in favor

620
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: of getting too creative. Let's head back to the phone lines.

621
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: We got James in Pennsylvania. James, what's happening? We hear

622
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: you a lot of clear James, what's happened? Hey, this

623
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: might or might not be off topic. My kids. I

624
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: got a kid, and I'm coming from southern southern Pennsylvania,

625
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: and I just need to know if there will be

626
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: something on the web started when training camps start. When

627
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: they're saying day could I leave that like four in

628
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: the morning here and am not going to see anybody

629
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: or not. I'm not gonna be stuck in New York

630
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: after practice and I even see nobody, Like how will be?

631
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: What they do is James. Before training camp starts, the

632
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Giants will release an entire list of dates that are

633
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: open to fans. You'll know that before training camp gainst underway,

634
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: and then shortly after that they'll release days when certain

635
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: a lum are gonna to sign autographs and maybe even

636
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: certain current players, but that's not necessarily always revealed as

637
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: way in advance compared to the dates. The only thing

638
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: that he had to take into consideration is the giants

639
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: are gonna release the aids of open practices, and they're

640
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: limited because of other events and concerts that go on

641
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: in MetLife Stadium, because of the parking lot. But what

642
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: happens is you may wake up that morning, it may

643
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Speaker 1: be pouring rain, and they may move the practice indoors,

644
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: which means that it's technically no longer an open practice.

645
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Speaker 1: You have to understand that mother nature is going to

646
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Speaker 1: create some challenges for the open practices, even if you

647
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Speaker 1: know those dates in advance, so it will be some

648
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: information that certainly will be information. That information will be

649
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Speaker 1: released before they start training. Came down late July, yep, okay,

650
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Speaker 1: because I was just wondered. You know, we were excited

651
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Speaker 1: about you know, the practices. Understand you get me excited too,

652
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, my kids, he wants to come up. I'm

653
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Speaker 1: gonna have come come up to Yeah, and you'll you'll

654
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: definitely have that opportunity. Yeah, I have time to play

655
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Speaker 1: that out and everything. Indeed, all right, James appreciate the

656
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Speaker 1: Phoe call, thanks so much for waging it. You got

657
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: it all right. Let's move a long here. How about

658
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Speaker 1: lending in Columbia, Maryland. Let what's happening hey, guys? How

659
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: you doing good? Good? Um? Well Lands. First of all,

660
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Speaker 1: I wanted to agree agree with you whole heartedly on

661
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Speaker 1: the on a point that you try to make about atoms,

662
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: which was the deciding factor with Adams is probably going

663
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: to wind up being how well he blocks. Um. I

664
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Speaker 1: think that second tight end, the idea of a second

665
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: tight end as a blocking tight end. I mean, in

666
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: all honesty, I really don't want to see Ingram in

667
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: there is a blocking tight end. I think there's a

668
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: willingness say to do it, but I don't really think

669
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: that that that's his game. But with Adams, I think

670
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: the difference is going to be um, his his ability

671
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: to win the job based based on based on his blocking.

672
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Speaker 1: What one other thing about about blocking that I wanted

673
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: to add, particularly at the tight end position. Boy, that's

674
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Speaker 1: something you really wanted. You really want to do that.

675
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: You have to want to do that, UM. Blocking A

676
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: lot of it is mental. I mean, you want to

677
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: you have to want to mix it up in there. Um.

678
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys come out of colleges,

679
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: they come out as tight ends. But you know, you

680
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: asked him to block, and they say, hey, you know,

681
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: I haven't done that in four years or five. You

682
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: haven't done that since high school. So you know, blocking

683
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: it's like to me, it's a lot like special teams. Also,

684
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you really have to want to do that. Um,

685
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: but a lot of it's mental. You're right, You're right, Yes,

686
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: a lot of it is mental. A lot of it

687
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: comes from the heart, a lot of it comes from effort,

688
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: but there's some of it that just comes from understanding

689
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: what your assignment is. Sometimes a guy can show effort,

690
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: a guy could want to do it, and it's wrong

691
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: to just assume that he doesn't have the effort or

692
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: desire to. Maybe he just doesn't know what he's doing.

693
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Speaker 1: And I believe me, I've seen enough of guys who

694
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Speaker 1: simply who simply let someone come and clean and touch

695
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback and he didn't want to do it, he

696
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: just didn't who took Yeah, well, well there is a

697
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: reason why why these teams have tight end coaches when

698
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: they only have three tight ends on the team. Um,

699
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, there's somebody in there. Who's got to train

700
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: them on how to on how to do this too.

701
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: But I think, I mean everything you said was correct.

702
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with anything. I just wanted to add

703
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: that one point about you really, you know I'm blocking

704
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: that's that's a tough business. I mean, gettleman is even suggested.

705
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you get into the middle of line, you

706
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: get along these lines. I mean, that's that's survival of

707
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: the fittest in there, and you really got to want

708
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: to do you know, and let yeah, before you continue,

709
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Speaker 1: We'll let you make your point. I think you do

710
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: bring up a really good point. And what I was

711
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: gonna say is, I think it's the same parallel to

712
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: play defense in basketball. I think you have to show

713
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: the desire and the past to want to play defense. Oh,

714
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: you have to show that desire to want to rebound

715
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: the basketball. Some of these things can be taught, don't

716
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: get me wrong. But if you don't have a guy

717
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Speaker 1: that is looking at the opposing player and saying, my

718
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: goal is I'm gonna shut him down and I'm gonna

719
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: run everywhere he goes, Yeah, it's hard to then get

720
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Speaker 1: that player to take it to the next level. So

721
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think blocking and football is

722
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Speaker 1: the same exact mindset. Go ahead, I'm sorry to cut

723
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Speaker 1: you off there. Do we lose line? All right, Lenn,

724
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: if you're listening, give us a ring back. We'll we'll

725
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: let you get back on and get to your next point.

726
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Sorry about the technicalities that were recurring, but I agree

727
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Speaker 1: with Lenn. I think he brings up an excellent point.

728
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Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's head back to the lines, Primos

729
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: in South Carol line of Primo, what's happening? How you

730
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: guys doing? I just wanted to ask, uh, you know,

731
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Speaker 1: in his rookie year, Andrew Adams did a good job

732
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Speaker 1: by far playing the pre safety position, and then last

733
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Speaker 1: year Daryan Thompson filled in, and I guess he didn't

734
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Speaker 1: do as good as I thought Andrew Adams is why

735
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Speaker 1: do you guys think that Andrew Adams hasn't retained that

736
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Speaker 1: resafe spot. Well, we have yet to see who's actually

737
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: going to fully win that job, so I wouldn't go

738
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Speaker 1: so far to say that Andrew Adams is not in

739
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: the mix or hasn't retained that he think. I mean

740
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Speaker 1: darry and Thompson, As you well know, Primo I mean,

741
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: unfortunately got struck by the inch rebug very early in

742
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: his career, so that I think put him behind the

743
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: eight ball right from the get go. And you know,

744
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: last year, I think it was a combination of a

745
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: variety of factors. I think you also you didn't have

746
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: a lot of stability in the secondary. There's a lot

747
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: of movement, Paul, in terms of the corners coming in

748
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup, and you know, let's not

749
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: fool ourselves. The safeties can stay together, but the communication

750
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: between the safety and the corner is extremely important. So

751
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: if you go one game you're playing with Eli Apple,

752
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: then the next game you're playing with a different guy,

753
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: and then you throw DRC into the mix and then

754
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't play. You've got to make sure all of

755
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: these guys are on the same page, especially when you

756
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: have a young safety in the game. So I think

757
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: that was a contributing factor why you didn't seem the

758
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: consistency there. And as far as why did Andrew Adams thrive, Well,

759
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, not that Darian Thompson wasn't motivated, but you

760
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 1: know what, you take a guy that was not drafted, Paul,

761
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you take a guy that is battling from day one,

762
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: and he is not guaranteeing anything on the roster. I

763
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: guarantee you he's gonna be extremely hungry. And that's I

764
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: think another reason why we saw and R. Adams give

765
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more push there. Quite frankly, I think

766
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: that with James Betrick coming in as the new defensive coordinator,

767
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: that would be one of the few positions right now

768
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: on the starting twenty two that I think is kind

769
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: of up for grabs. I don't, I don't. I mean,

770
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: I know Landon Collins is going to be a starting safety.

771
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I know that Apple and Jenkins unless something crazy happens

772
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: there the two starting outside corners. You know, there are

773
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of spots. I'm pretty sure you can put

774
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: it into almost into concrete, the safety spot next to Collins.

775
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I feel like that's a concrete

776
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: spot right now. With you, I think that Adams and

777
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Thompson are going to be afforded the opportunity, maybe Thompson

778
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: because of him being here longer. Even though Adams played

779
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: more games originally as a rookie, and even last year

780
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: in the sub package, he got a lot more time.

781
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: He's got more snaps under his belt in the NFL,

782
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: maybe than Thompson does. I'd have to count it up,

783
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if he does. I still

784
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: think that that's gonna be a competition. And and and

785
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna put Vegas odds on either

786
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: one of those guys being a lock to wint it

787
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just not. But I will tell you this,

788
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if both of them wanted up

789
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: playing a lot anyway, because Betell loves to use this

790
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: up package and move those guys around a prem anything

791
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: else premo. I wouldn't ask who do you guys think

792
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna win the slot corner position? And my final

793
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: question was what are you guys projections for this year

794
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: the Giant? Okay, well, appreciate the phone call. In terms

795
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: of the slot corner, I will stand by this statement

796
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: that I said a few weeks ago. I think right

797
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: now William Gay to me is in the driver's seat.

798
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: He's got far more experienced Paul than anybody else on

799
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: this roster. And I don't care who's flashed here and

800
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: there during O t S. I think he goes into

801
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: training camp as the favorite, and then let's see what

802
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: the other guys could do to push him. I would

803
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: totally agree with that. And as far as records, ninety

804
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: guy nine man roster, wait wait till they get at

805
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: least some preseason games under their belt. Let's talk about

806
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: the potential record once they get to the final fifty three.

807
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: It's just so premature right now. The better question was

808
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: a guy asked us last week, what would you consider

809
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: to be a successful season? And our answer was based

810
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: on John Mara's quote that he expects the Giants to

811
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: be good this year. We said, well, nine and seven,

812
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: you gotta have a winning record. A winning record is

813
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: teemed successful. A playoff team is deemed successful, which basically

814
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: means you could be eight and eight or seven and

815
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: nine and make the playoffs, and I guess you could

816
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: term it successful if you want to. But anything less

817
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: than a winning record or a playoff appearance, technically that's

818
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: not successful. I think most of us would agree with

819
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: that generic definition, would we not. I'm with you there.

820
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: And the point that I brought up and we had

821
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: that exact conversation, was I don't look at one season

822
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: to another because of so much turnover and parody in

823
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think you just gotta look at every

824
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: year you go in a fresh roster, guys are either

825
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: healthier than not, and the goal is to have a

826
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: winning record and make the playoffs. So if you fall

827
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: short of that, how can you then define success to say, well,

828
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: you went from three wins to six wins. Yeah, that's great,

829
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily think that that success of the

830
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: big picture of things. You asked about the snaps Paul

831
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: for Darien Thompson and Andrew Adams. Ok, the numbers on that, Yeah,

832
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: this is actually a little bit surprising. I mean, I'm

833
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: even surprised by these numbers. You got. Thompson played last

834
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: year nine percent of the defensive snaps one thousand sixty four.

835
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Andrew Adams was only a two seventy four. Okay, But

836
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Speaker 1: then Adams the year before, I'm gonna look that up.

837
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get he was probably over a

838
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: thousand the year before. You're you're probably right, let me

839
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: go to now the previous season. But I was even surprised,

840
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: if you were to ask me, off the top of

841
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: my head, I didn't think the disparity was that big

842
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen. I would have thought it would

843
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: have been a little closer. Well, you know why, because

844
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: last year they did not go to as much of

845
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: the three safety package. They went to more using the

846
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: regular nick with an extra corner as opposed to go

847
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: in three safeties. I based on what I've seen with

848
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, uh and the way Betcher does it, I

849
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: think you'll see more three safety than than what you

850
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: saw last year. Yeah, based on especially some of those

851
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: cardinal safeties that were moved between linebackers. Safety. Adams plays

852
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: to run well, he's strong, he's powerful for his size,

853
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to hit. He's really good in rue support.

854
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I could see him as that pseudo linebacker in a

855
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: three safety lock. Well, and it was reversed in two

856
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: thousand six. Well, no, it wasn't. Over a thousand was

857
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: Adams only played seven seven It was sixty seven percent.

858
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: But obviously the disparity was big because Darry and Thompson

859
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: got hurt. Yes, so he only played eighty seven snaps

860
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: eight percent. So that goes without saying mainly because he

861
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: was banked up. All right, let's head back to the

862
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: phone lines. We got let back on the line. So

863
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: let's give Len an opportunity to make his other point. Len,

864
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: what's happening? Sorry about I'll losing you there before. That's okay,

865
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate you putting me back on.

866
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Thompson's got a tackle better that. That's just the bottom

867
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: line with Thompson. He'll start if he tackles better. You're

868
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Paul Adams. Adams can tackle, But I think

869
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: there's I think they still want Thompson to win this job.

870
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: I just want to see takes terrible angles. I just

871
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: want to see the guy tackle better. Well, he's borrow

872
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: a ball hawk too, to be honest with your land.

873
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna use Collins in a variety of ways,

874
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: which we know he's going to be like a joker safety,

875
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna make Adams more of an in

876
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: the box guy in sub packages, well you want that

877
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: other safety to be a set of fielder. And that's

878
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: what Thomas's skill set dictates. Well, I think what what

879
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: the giants are waiting to see and I'll let you

880
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: continue lettis Thompson showcasing those ball hawk skills. Because the

881
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: season at all, which was a Mountain West record and

882
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: that hasn't translated here yet. Yeah, yeah, Land, spair with me.

883
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: I want to say something to Paul here and only

884
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: take about twenty seconds. Paul, with nothing better to do,

885
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: the other day, I ran up Joel Morrison's nineteen Joe

886
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: Marris nine five season, all twenty of his touchdowns that

887
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: that that season, and the one thing that stood out,

888
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: and this helps with the fullback situation here, the one

889
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: thing it stood out. Oh my goodness, to roll it,

890
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: Maurice Carthon, I played on touch. I mean, it is

891
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: just unbelievable how well Carthon blocked. I mean, Mars had

892
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: a great year. He was a great runner. I'm not

893
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: taking anything away from him, but holy count, Maurice Carthon

894
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: was your unbelievable. You know what's funny, Land? At that

895
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: time in five when when little Joe ran for league

896
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: leading one touchdowns, that number, that number twenty one. It

897
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: was the most touchdowns in NFL history in one season,

898
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns by a pure half back. Yeah, up until

899
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: that point. I mean, Riggins had run for more. But

900
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: we all know Riggins was a one back word Corse

901
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: fullback type. U I'm talking about out of a two back.

902
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: I set. Yes, Joe Morris held the record the word

903
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: half back. I haven't heard that in a long That's

904
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: what he was. He was half absolutely right. It wasn't

905
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: always an eye formation with Carthon in front. There was

906
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: a lot of times with Carton lined up next to him,

907
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: but sometimes another Carton coming um as a tight end

908
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and coming coming back in motion across the line. Holy count.

909
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: If you want to have some fun, Paul, run that

910
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: up on YouTube. Um. I think the key on the fullback,

911
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: the key on the fullback spot is going to be

912
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: as we get closer to a training camp, if they

913
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: bring in another fullback to compete with Smith, I think

914
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: then we've got it. You know, we've got something serious

915
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: about whether or not we're going to keep a fullback.

916
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine they're going to go into the

917
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: season having looked only at at Smith. I think somewhere

918
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: we're going to sign another fullback. There's going to be

919
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: some competing if we're going to really keep a fullback.

920
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Anybody's guest, I would never rule out perhaps a veteran

921
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: joining the team late. I think that's always an option. Hey,

922
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: thank god, thanks for putting me back up. You guys

923
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: the only thing I'll say though, you know, Len went

924
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: a little bit over twenty seconds though with this little dissertation,

925
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: are interrupted, Okay, I just wanted to bring that up

926
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: for those of you counting at home, all right, but seriously,

927
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: that was a record for half backs, for pure half backs,

928
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: one rushing touchdowns and five and and Lend would also

929
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: tell you man that old line those Suburban nights, Oh baby,

930
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Mark Bavaro was playing tight end. But yeah, well he

931
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: had the knee injury and that his season. But we'll

932
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: forget the individual record. I think the Giants would be

933
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: content if they get twenty one rushing touchdowns as a tea, right, okay,

934
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: because let's face it, it's taken three or four seasons

935
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: to get to twenty one. Over the last Suburbans were great.

936
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: What a terrific offensive line. When you win the battle

937
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: in the trenches, it goes without saying. I think Dan

938
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: Gettleman would approve. Okay, Charlie is in Portland, Maine. Charlie

939
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: probably would approved that statement too, but he's still going

940
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: to talk about the offensive line. What's happened to Charlie?

941
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: Hey guys, hey, um uh, Paul, you mentioned Shermer what

942
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: he said about a fullback, and I thought that was

943
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: very chilling that we talked about the fullback in the

944
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: sense of a pass blocker and he didn't really talk

945
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: about a fullback leading the way for Barkley. So to me,

946
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: that tells me he's going to use a tight end

947
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: more than he's going to use a pure fullback in

948
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: this system. You know, maybe I'm wrong, but from what

949
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: he's saying, he values the fullback as another blocker, so

950
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: he can use a tight end for that. That we

951
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: just picked up another tight end. Well, Charlie that that

952
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: that is how he answered the specific question the way

953
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: it was addressed. I might say to you, if if

954
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: that's his intent, that it's going to be a pass blocker,

955
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: then it's going to be the best pass blocker in

956
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: that spot. And if that, if that guy is Shade Smith,

957
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: then maybe Shade Smith does win a spot on this team,

958
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, because ultimately isn't this all about keeping Eli healthy? Yeah?

959
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: For sure, But to me, it looks like to me,

960
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: since we picked up another tight end that he you know,

961
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: he likes tight ends, So to me, I don't think

962
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a fullback leading away for Barkley. If

963
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: it is, it's going to be an h back, it's

964
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: going to be a tight end, and we're gonna keep

965
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: four tight ends because one of them is actually going

966
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: to be the hybrid. But that's that's just me looking

967
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: at it and just listening to what he's been saying

968
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: and what he did in uh Um. You could just

969
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: tell Charlie in the tone of his voice the irritation

970
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: over another tight end. Yeah. I mean, like if it

971
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: was an offensive lineman, he would be doing jumping backs

972
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: right now. But every time they another tighten, we don't

973
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: need another tackle. I'll tell you what. Though you heard

974
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: me earlier today we talked about the second string offensive

975
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: line from left to right, and if that doesn't put

976
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: a smile on your face, I don't know what does.

977
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Because the Giants have not had a second unit offensive

978
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: line of that caliber competing on a roster in several years.

979
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: Well that's if that's if you think Wheeler is, you know,

980
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: raising his game. You know, I don't know if he

981
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: is or not. Hopefully he is. It seems like, you know,

982
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: he's he's definitely got his head on straight and hopefully

983
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: he has the physicality to be able to play. Here's

984
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: the thing. If he could be half demand, that will

985
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: beat he was. That's because that's that's the model, and

986
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: that's the standard everybody gets compared to, Charlie. Go ahead,

987
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: what else do you have to know? That's basically thank

988
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: you to comment on us. On the fullback situation, I

989
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: really think we're not going to keep a real full back,

990
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: or we would have somebody in here besides Smith. I

991
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: think we're going with tight ends and I think that's

992
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: what Sherman likes, and that's what he's going to do.

993
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Interesting observation, Charlie, and that may be the way he goes.

994
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch it carefully, believe me. We've got a

995
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: couple of months to take a look at it. You

996
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: gotta appreciate the phone call. Let's hear from Marie, said

997
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: mont claim Reese. What's happening, Hey, good morning, guy's how

998
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: you doing what you do? Well? What's happening with you?

999
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: What do you guys? Not much, man, I haven't called

1000
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: them in a while, but um, I've just been kind

1001
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: of sitting back looking at the roster. Uh thought on

1002
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: the defense, you know, I don't think a lot of

1003
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: people is expecting this giant defense to be off the charts.

1004
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: But if you guys will just this quick question, then

1005
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: I'll finish um Who you think could possibly be some

1006
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: pleasant surprises for They can be like not all not

1007
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: all guys that's no starters and proving guys, some guys

1008
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 1: that either they added, or some guy who's probably going

1009
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: into their second the third year that could probably show

1010
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: up big for us. On defense, that's a good question

1011
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: in terms of defensive personnel. Who has an opportunity to

1012
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: sort of make a statement. I mean, I think when

1013
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: you look at the defensive line, that to me is

1014
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: a position to watch because I think there's opportunities for

1015
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: players to make some noise at those respective positions. I mean,

1016
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: one guy that I'm intrigued to see what he could

1017
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: do in this defense is probably Avery Moss. He would

1018
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: be right near the top of my list where I

1019
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: think that if they use him correctly, if he's into it,

1020
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: if he continues to improve, you know, that could be

1021
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: a guy that is due for maybe that breakout. Hey, welcome,

1022
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: I've arrived type of season in the NFL that I think,

1023
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: to me is a good candidate to throw out there

1024
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: that comes to mind. I'm really interested to see a

1025
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 1: healthy B. J. Goodford Goodson for sixteen games, quite frank

1026
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 1: with you, and and I'm also very interested in seeing

1027
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: darry and Thompson be the guy on a Boise State

1028
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: that we thought he was gonna be. And I also

1029
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: want to see Elie Apple with his head screw not straight. Yeah,

1030
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: I mean there's a bunch of guys who can pick

1031
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: you know. The thing is with Apple and Goodson, we've

1032
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: seen the flashes, but I would say with Thompson and Moss,

1033
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: you haven't seen nearly as much, especially not in real life,

1034
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: regular season game exactly. So that's why I would go

1035
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: with those two over Apple and Goods. If you wanted

1036
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: to go for you know, who could baby be due

1037
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: for a breakout? Who do you want to see take

1038
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the next step? Those would be the two guys got you,

1039
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: got you definitely. Um. I just think that the defense

1040
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: is left and I think that will be more of

1041
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: an event not break type of defense. And I'm fine

1042
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: with that. I've seen it in the past. But my

1043
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: other point, other points would be this, we're heading, you know,

1044
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: we're finishing up ots, We're gonna head in the training

1045
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: camp and all that good stuff. But this is football.

1046
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: But you can all time to tool in the preseason, right,

1047
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: So there's two questions here in the preseason, would you guys,

1048
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: if you guys were calling the shots, would you guys

1049
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: put the first team offense to line out there that

1050
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: to Jael and get some camaraderie. Yes, what would you

1051
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: kind of play it safe and not try and sacrifice

1052
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: anything and play, you know, and be more conservatives? Now

1053
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: you let me. I had to jump the gun on

1054
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: that one because I absolutely think those guys need as

1055
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: many snaps as they possibly can get together. And I'm

1056
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: not necessarily saying that you're gonna play them from preseason

1057
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: game one into the second half. But what I'm saying is,

1058
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, playing the first quarter in that first game,

1059
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe you're playing I don't know how I would. I

1060
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: haven't really thought about dividing it up, but I would

1061
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: tell you what, maybe they get the whole first quarter

1062
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: in that first game instead of only the first series,

1063
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Speaker 1: which a lot of times it's only the first series. No,

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Speaker 1: I'd say give them the whole first quarter, maybe even

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Speaker 1: into the second quarter. Gotta get these guys snaps together,

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Speaker 1: no question in my mind, at least I'm with Paul,

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Speaker 1: I think you got to get them as many snaps

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Speaker 1: as possible. And keep in mind, you know, if a

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Speaker 1: guy like Will Hernandez ultimately starts, I mean, he's a rookie,

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Speaker 1: so you want to play him as much as possible.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other way to look at it, Maurice.

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Speaker 1: If Eli Manny is not starting some of those preseason games,

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Speaker 1: it's better that Davis Webb and Kyle a Letta play

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Speaker 1: with that offensive line in front of them, as opposed

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Speaker 1: to you throw those two young guys in front of

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Speaker 1: the backups and maybe the protection is not as great.

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Speaker 1: How are you supposed to evaluate these quarterbacks. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: see them playing behind a good offensive line, then you

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Speaker 1: can at least get a better idea of their decision making.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it a simple answer for you. It's

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Speaker 1: already been too complicated. I think of all the starters

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Speaker 1: on this team, the offensive lineman, you get the most

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Speaker 1: snaps in the preseason over the four games period. How

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Speaker 1: about that? Got you, got you, got you? I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: with that training thought also, and this this is my

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Speaker 1: last thing here. You know, in terms of guys that

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Speaker 1: you would probably quote unquote say are on the bubble

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Speaker 1: or you know, you know, they kind of got to

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Speaker 1: cool a lot. Who who who in mind you can

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Speaker 1: name a couple of guys would this uh preseason be

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Speaker 1: sort of the biggest sport Who asked to really take them,

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Speaker 1: you know, to make the most out of this preseason

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Speaker 1: thanks to take much call guy, appreciate the phone call. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're looking at any of the

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Speaker 1: second or third string guys on the depth chart because

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Speaker 1: at any of those spots where there is competition, uh,

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to prove that they belong against

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Speaker 1: the challenger who has been brought in by a new administration.

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Speaker 1: And you could list a bunch of guys on the

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Speaker 1: second and three teams. Yeah, I mean Darrell Adams we

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Speaker 1: talked about earlier. I think he certainly is a candidate

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Speaker 1: to fall under the question that Maurice stare out there,

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Speaker 1: guys like Greco and Jerry competing for backup guard spots.

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Speaker 1: Who you know both of them gonna stay? Is one

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Speaker 1: of them gonna stay? Who knows they belong in the

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Speaker 1: mix of the receivers the back end of the receiving

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Speaker 1: depth chart. Roger Lewis is a guy that I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's cantine anything. Here's another one. What about on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, Kerry Win. I think he's a guy

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Speaker 1: you know who's been around, but now it's a new

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, new formation, new scheme. You know, he's somebody

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Speaker 1: that I think falls in that category to I mean,

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Speaker 1: I talked about Donte Dione all the time, but Donte

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Speaker 1: Dion has got to go out there and he's got

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Speaker 1: to earn his spot. I think he will, but he's

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Speaker 1: got to earn his spot. He's not guaranteed a fifty three.

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Speaker 1: Romeo Akuara is another guy. I think he's out there.

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Speaker 1: I think he's done more though they've shown more impetus

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Speaker 1: with him in the scheme and what they're doing. I

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Speaker 1: suspect right now they think he's gonna be there. But

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Speaker 1: what if he goes out and does nothing in the preseason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing. You know, I'm just scrolling through

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Speaker 1: the roster as we're looking for names. I think when

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Speaker 1: your plots in perspective, you take a step back. There's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of turnover on the roster two Paul,

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Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of candidates who you could say,

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Speaker 1: you know, have been here for three years and you're

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Speaker 1: just waiting for now, all of a sudden, the year

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Speaker 1: four for them to jump out because there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys with a lot of experience within the

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Speaker 1: Giants organization we're talking about because there's so many new faces.

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Speaker 1: There's veterans on this team, but they haven't necessarily suited

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Speaker 1: up for the Giants, So there's a distinct difference there.

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Speaker 1: But I think the few names that we threw out

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Speaker 1: certainly are players to watch me. Do we know for

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Speaker 1: sure Aldrick Rosas is gonna be the kicker? Another one? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: speaking before we wrap up here, Aldrick Rosas. They had

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Speaker 1: lined up to take multiple kicks, and you know, this

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Speaker 1: is another way that Pat Shermer tries to build competition.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like to leave on a missfield goal, just

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Speaker 1: like in basketball practice, you don't like to leave on

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Speaker 1: a miss shot. So he had Oldrick Rosas make sure

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Speaker 1: that he nailed the last one, and he was twice,

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Speaker 1: and on the third one finally made it. And when

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Speaker 1: Schumer was asked about it after practice, he said, well,

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Speaker 1: he had made every one up to that point, and

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Speaker 1: then at the end to act as he missed and

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Speaker 1: I was gonna make him stay until he got it,

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Speaker 1: and he did. There you go. I just already tried

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Speaker 1: to one and it was I believe it was. Yes.

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Speaker 1: I think you are right, and I think even Shermer

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Speaker 1: mentioned that Lisa at so bad. Six question, guys, in

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Speaker 1: your opinion, who do you think will be a breakout

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Speaker 1: player that we least expect? She says, I think Snacks

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Speaker 1: will have a great year. Well, I think we answered

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Speaker 1: some of that. With respect to guys like Avery Moss

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Speaker 1: and Darry and Thompson. I think are two really good

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Speaker 1: candidates that could potentially have breakout years and Snacks. You

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Speaker 1: just hope Snacks continues to do his thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: know necessarily if I put him up to the breakout

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Speaker 1: candidate label, but he certainly could be in position to

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Speaker 1: UH as long as he stays healthy. Lined up next

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Speaker 1: to Dalvin Tomlinson helped that defensive line go to work.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, that's gonna wrap up Monday's edition

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Speaker 1: to Biglue. Kickoff Live will be back up and running

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at noon Eastern. Keep you up to date with

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Speaker 1: all the latest developments with respect to the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: For Paul the Tino um Lanceto enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 1: your Monday right here on jihants dot com. I've going