WEBVTT - Dust For Prints! 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.640 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:07.640 George Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:09.920 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:17.279 Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:23.760 We're getting them out. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.160 And a judge can't say, no, you have to have 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.360 a child, that the trial is going to take two years, 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.559 and no, we're going to have a very We're going 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.680 to have a very dangerous country if we're not allowed 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.000 to do what we're entitled to do. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:38.720 And I want an. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.600 Election based on the fact that we get him. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:48.000 Out rampant uncontrolled immigration four years, particularly as we're going 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:52.760 to discuss now from Venezuela, the effort to get these 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.320 people out of the country as quickly and efficiently as possible, 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.920 running into a recent Supreme Court ruling to discuss all 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.320 of this, Please welcome Art Arthur, Resident Fellow in Law 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.040 and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.560 Art, how are you, sir, Joe? 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.480 I'm doing great and my best to all of your listeners. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.640 Oh, thank you, so correct me if I'm wrong. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.920 I see this as a great example of if you 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:23.480 do the wrong thing long enough, doing the right thing 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.880 becomes more and more difficult, and that is the challenge 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:28.360 before us. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.680 Now, Yeah, no, that's absolutely correct, and in fact, you know, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.040 that was one of the things that you know, the 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.520 Center and I were warning about as we went through 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.200 the Biden Border of fiasco is you know, millions millions 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.319 of unvetted migrants poured into the United States that the 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.360 you know, it was setting up a perfect storm in 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.400 which removing those individuals from this country and identifying the 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.000 ones who were truly bad was going to require an 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.080 all of government effort. And it is that all of 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.080 an effort that the Trump administration is now implementing. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.880 But you know, this is going to be a. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.239 Long slog and it's going to take years for us 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.720 to undo all the damage that was done over the 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:11.880 past four years. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.720 Yeah, one is reminded of the Cloward pivot radical left 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.040 strategy of overwhelming the system to break it. But how 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.680 let's just do a minute on how we ended up 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:27.519 with Sadam many Venezuelans, in particular trendy Uragua gang members 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:28.440 in the country. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.720 Yeah, and you know, that's great question. They'll give you 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:37.960 the thirty second explanation. Up until the Biden administration, we 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.480 really didn't get that many illegal Venezuelans. There's a diaspora 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.320 of Venezuelans who have left the country ever since it 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.960 was turned into a socialist basket case by Hugo Chavez 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.680 and then by his successor, Nicholas Maduro. Once the Biden 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.120 administration took off, it's one of the first things that 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.480 it did was it gave temporary protected status to Thenalans 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:01.000 who were here. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.600 That meant we couldn't deport them. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.560 But you know, the smugglers and the migrants don't read 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.799 the fine print of that, may assume that everybody who 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.680 came here would be protected from removal, and so consequently 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.200 we ended up with four hundred thousand plus brand new 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.760 Venezuelans who came into the United States. The Biden administration 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.000 you flailed around with how it was going to deal 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.400 with them, and it decided that the best way to 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.480 deal with them, to keep people from entering illegally from Venezuela, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.600 was to open our airports to Venezuelans who didn't have 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.800 any visas, who hadn't been vetted. And that really gets 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.080 to the point, Joe, none of these individuals have been 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.120 vetted before they come to the United States. If you 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.440 get a legal visa. You have to show that you're 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.960 not a criminal. You've got to get a letter from 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.480 your local police department back home show and you don't 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.760 have any crimes. We don't have diplomatic relations with Venezuelan, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.560 and so consequently, Venezuela has no interest whatsoever in telling 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.680 us who amongst this population of four hundred thousand plus 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.000 who have poured in are good people. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.520 And who aren't. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.800 And so unfortunately it's local police departments and now the 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.800 FBI that's having to uncover all the activities of those individuals, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.400 Frende Aragua members and other criminals who have come from 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.200 Venezuela into the United States. To remember, Joe Donald Trump 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.400 was derided, criticized, you know, mocked when he said that 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.520 Venezuela was opening its jails and. 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:22.719 Its mental institutions. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:27.120 Well, Nicholas Maduro is an acolyte of Fidel Castro, and 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.280 that's exactly if you remember what Fidel Castro did during 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.560 the Mariel Bog crisis. So the apple didn't fall far 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.039 from the trade in this particular instance. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.800 Yeah, So we around here cherish the idea of due process. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.400 It's the idea that our country is based on that 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.880 if the government can trample on your rights, eventually they will. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.480 And so the whole system is based around making sure 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.200 that the government has to prove it's doing what it's 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.839 doing in a way that is legal and respect people's rights. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.599 On the other hand, if you allow the country to 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.560 be flooded with many millions of people, including what do 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:06.640 you figure the number is from. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.200 Venezuela, just so I'm semi accurate, Do you have any idea? 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.240 So we know that more than seven hundred thousand, I 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.320 think with seven hundred and thirty one thousand, Venezuelan's work 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.280 eligible for temporary protected status at the time that all 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.760 Jundra New York has issued his second designation of the 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.839 group in twenty twenty four. So you're talking about, you know, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:27.440 seven hundred and fifty thousand people. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.800 Okay, that's a hell of a lot of people. So, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.400 having said what I said about due process, what would 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.120 quote unquote due process look like in this situation because 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.320 the phrase can mean different things. If it means a 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.080 criminal prosecution, it's beyond a reasonable doubt as a judge 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.960 by a jury of my peers, if I've walked across 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.520 the border and forty seconds later, I'm apprehended by the 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.680 Customs and Border Patrol quote unquote, due process is a 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.039 very different thing. So what did the Scotis say the 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.400 other day because they had like a late night ruling, 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.600 and what should do process look like to deal with 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:07.839 all these gang members? 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:09.120 Yeah? 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.240 No, I mean you make so many really important points 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.279 that your listeners really need to listen very carefully to 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.320 that adjective do in due process? 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.000 Is there for a reason. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.840 Due process means different things in different situations. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.960 And when it comes to an individual. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.040 At the border or at the ports, those individuals court 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.240 to the Supreme Court only have the process rights that 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.279 Congress has given them, and in that context, Congress hasn't 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.159 given them many. With respect to the individuals who have 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.000 been released into the United States, they have slightly more 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.480 due process rights, but not the full you know, rights 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.080 that are guaranteed under the Constitution to United States citizens. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.800 So what President Trump is attempting to do here is 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.520 to invoke the Alien Enemies Act. And people say, oh, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.080 it's from seventeen ninety eight. Yeah it is, but it's 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.919 also codified. It's fifty US Code, Section twenty one, and 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.479 it permits the president in the face of an invasion 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:12.160 or predatory incursion to remove individuals under you know, his 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.840 constitutional powers from the United States who were viewed as 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.400 having participated in that invasion or that incursion. In this context, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.760 it's trend Aragua members who followed that migrant flow. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.040 To the United States. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.040 And you know, in its first order in with respect 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.720 to trend Aragua, in response to in order that have 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.400 been issued by Judge Boseburg, James Boseburg, the District Court 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.920 in d C. The you know, court said, you know, 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:45.000 they're entitled to some process they get notice of, you know, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.400 that they've been charged or that they're going to be 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.600 removed under this provision. But the court also made clear 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.760 that you know, by and large it's the lower courts, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.280 the district courts have to defer to the Execus to 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.520 branch in that determination. This is foreign policy, Joe, and 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:07.200 this is something that the court doesn't have any competence in, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.240 let alone jurisdiction. They can't say whether this is necessary 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.400 for the foreign policy the United States or not. So 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.160 they're entitled to notice and probably an opportunity to say 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:19.120 I'm not a trend. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.720 To iron Will member. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.320 But by and large those district court judges who are 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.600 hearing those cases in Habeas are going to have to 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:32.160 largely defer to the determinations of the executive branch, specifically 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.680 the FBI, DHS, and the State Department. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.719 Yeah, it seems a little ridiculous the idea that if 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.240 Maduro said, you know what I'll do, and he did 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.480 this intentionally, it is clearly an invasion, clearly a hostile 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.160 active of foreign power. But if he kind of only 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.760 semi accidentally did it, then we've got to give these 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.240 guys hearings for years. That just seems absurd to me. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.560 Yeah, and you know, the Trump administration, the second one, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.040 learned a lot from the first Trump administration. And if 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.480 you actually go back and you read the Foreign Terrorist 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.240 Organization designation from the State Department on February twenty and 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:14.040 you look at President Trump's proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.880 Act that he issued on March the eleventh, they actually 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.280 go into the political activities of Trende Aragua and they 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.240 say in essence that it operates in conjunction with the 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:30.160 Maduro regime and that it supports the Maduro regime's goal 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.800 of destabilizing democratic nations in the Americas, including the United States. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:40.760 You know, Nicholas Maduro, the Marxist strong man in Venezuela, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.800 is a bitter opponent of the United States, and we 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.600 don't like him either. Even the Biden administration wouldn't admit 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.280 that he was a legitimate leader of the country. And 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.000 you know, the argument of the government that the President 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.280 is making, in fact, it's not even an argument. It's 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.800 what he's found is that this is part of an 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.840 attempt to undermine the United States, that these crimes that 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.840 they participate in, you know, in the United States and 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.720 throughout the Americans. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.120 Are part of a plan. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.040 And you know, with that in mind, this appears to 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.840 be on pretty strong legal ground for me. And you know, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:16.880 even Bill Barr, you know, former Trump administration Attorney general 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.360 but no fan of the President today, said yeah, no, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.640 this is perfectly permissible for them to do. We need 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.120 to get to the point in which the court's one court, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.040 actually makes that determination that's going to become the law, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.520 and then all of this it's going to become very easy. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.960 And as always, it'd sure be helpful if Congress would 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.920 stand up and do their jobs and get good and 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.160 specific about this stuff. Art Arthur, Resident Fellow in Law 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.000 and Policy Center for Immigration Studies, aren't we sure appreciate 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.320 the time. Thanks for helping to clarify some fairly complicated 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:46.959 stuff for us. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.920 Thank you so much, Joe. It's always an honor and 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:50.440 a pleasure. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.160 Thank you. Likewise, thanks very much more to come stay 0:10:55.200 --> 0:11:01.920 with us. The other thing about Kawhi is right, big 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.280 fell Yeah, I know, go ahead, keep talking joke. Yeah, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.800 we on TV know what we're doing. Yeah, that's that, 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.000 olive all you've been drinking. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:10.679 Hey, you take some matches with. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:16.880 You, Hey, listen, he could hold it after forty you 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.400 can hold it. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.000 What's it first you killed? I've been drink. 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:28.440 I didn't well the cleaning. Hey listen, I just hope 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.160 we got enough matches around it. He's turned his mic off, that's. 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:31.520 All I got. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.240 Wow, that was a lot of toilet talk on the 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:37.920 NBA today tonight or whatever. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.040 That's older men. That show gets huge ratings and makes 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.880 huge money. It's very amusing. He's very entertaining. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:53.079 So so did did jd Vance kill the Pope? That's 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.000 not my understanding of it. I mean I've watched a 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.280 lot of crime dramas. He says negative things about a guy. 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:01.839 He goes and meets with the guy for like three minutes. 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.520 He walks out of the room. A couple of minutes later, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.679 that guy's dead. I know how these things work. I 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.680 know where i'd start the investigation. You bring in a 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:14.000 detective the pope'es what are you doing with that hammerher? 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:19.320 Jd oh, good lord, that's so for the line you're sick. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.400 I'm gonna claim it was the medication or something. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.719 But so, I've not. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.760 Liked this pope for much of his poping. I know, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.400 I wasn't hoping for his death or anything. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:29.560 I am. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.720 I am always amazed at how much attention the whole 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.400 pope thing gets. I mean, it's the it's the biggest 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.760 religion in the world. I mean, if you even if 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.920 you separate it from you know, Protestants, I mean, it's 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.720 bigger than Baptist anything. It's bigger than Islam. It's it's 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.679 the biggest because also the biggest. There's one point five 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:51.480 billion Catholics on Earth. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.040 It's amazing. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:58.720 But even with that, and I think there are eighty 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.640 million Catholics in the United I'm surprised how much attention 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:05.800 the selection of the pulpe gets. I think a lot 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.360 of it has to do with the whole it's white 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:12.600 people follow the royal family. We like royalty, We like 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:16.760 the pageantry. We're built for that, even though it's anathetical to, 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.320 you know, the way we structure our society and our 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:21.319 government in theory. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.280 We just we like that sort of thing, the pageantry, 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:26.800 the robes, the slippers. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.760 Yeah, those are somebody is all powerful and that thing. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.320 I think Catholics are clustered disproportionately in the northeast of 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.320 the US two now and also in the southwest, certainly 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:45.280 with the Hispanic folks who've joined us recently welcome. So 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.400 the mainstream media tends to be like extra serious about it, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.280 even if they're not Catholic, because there's somebody next to 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.959 them in the newsroom who is. But yeah, you're right, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.160 it has very very little effect on my life. I'm 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.560 not anti. I'm just I don't care that much. Hey, 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.679 run twenty four for us. Michael little Andy Cooper here. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.640 Unlike many other popes over the last hundred years, he 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.439 will not be buried though in Vatican City. He's actually 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.520 going to be buried in Rome itself and another basilica, 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:19.720 the Basilica Saint Maria Margiore, which. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:20.800 Is closer to the Colisseum. 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.920 I apologize for my bad Italian is closer to the 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.080 Colisseum than it is to the Vatican. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.560 Nobody cares, do they know? Well, that's what exactly. And 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.360 I don't know how many newscasts I mean, we're in 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.520 the Fellow's going to be buried. I mean, well it's 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.920 more I don't know, it's less regal and more man 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.960 of the street. But yeah, I saw so many newscasts 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.240 lead with the you know, the minutia of this, and 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.440 then he'll be moved to here, and then vaugh and 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.920 then in three days, and I thought, really, are there 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.800 that many people that are into this? I also took 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.200 in a podcast where people were, you know, several of 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.880 them Catholics, pointing out that while mainstream media in America 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.200 loved this guy because he bad mouthed America all the 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.560 time and sort of treated him like he was this 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:10.760 new liberalizing, you know, lefty pope, he wasn't. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:11.680 Really at all. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:17.680 I mean, he was hardcore life begins at conception, no 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.520 wiggle room whatsoever on abortion being a sin. I mean, 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.160 just all of the you know, the core things he 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.720 was solid on. Oh if somebody told me when he 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.280 was alive, i'd have been more fond of him than 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.960 I was. And remember, he used the term faggotry not 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.560 that long ago, some sort of hot mic moment. He 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.280 did not dig the gay community being involved. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.080 In the church. He wasn't. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.080 He wasn't liberal on any of those things at all. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.480 But because he would occasionally bad mouth the United States 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.440 and capitalism, you know, the. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.320 Mainstream media just thought it was fantastic. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.960 Yeah, he was more liberal on some issues, I know, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.160 but I don't. 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.880 I don't care, I really I don't. 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.840 I'm you in your personal faith, my friends, we have 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.000 more than respect for and you practice it in whatever 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.840 way you say or feel as proper. I'm about the Constitution, 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.760 I'm about our individual rights and that sort of thing, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.280 and I just I don't have much opinion on this stuff. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.200 Well maybe this would get you more interested. National review 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.960 Their take is it was founded by William F. Buckley, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.600 who is a lifelong, very strong Catholic person. But National 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.480 Reviews take is the Catholic Church is the most important 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.880 institution in Western civilization, has been forever and still is. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.400 So if you look at it that way, and you 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.280 know why I want to give us a ten second version. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.520 I guess because it's moral in wellnot, I guess. I 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.920 listened to them talk about it, and I read it's 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.320 moral leadership for all of Western civilization for you know, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.520 hundreds and hundreds of years, centuries, and the constitution and 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.080 rights I cherish that I just mentioned are absolutely inseparable 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.600 from the Judea career tradition, sure, and moral precepts of 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.720 the world. Right, that's true, you know, I'm I have 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.520 an open mind about this stuff. That's an interesting perspective. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.840 Dust for prints. Ask JD some questions, that's all. Oh, no, 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:17.720 any inappropriate retract that Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:19.320 Hey, how you doing? 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:19.879 So? 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.919 I was looking at video Jack just recommended I take 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.159 a look at that he tweeted over the weekend, and 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.679 it led me to another fascinating topic. But yeah, it 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:33.359 was the transactivist screeching like lunatics and a small group 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.520 of women who are just saying only women in women's sports, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:46.560 a controversial stance with the wide eyed craziness of I 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:52.760 don't even know what the religious cultist right, the radical 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.320 you know, and some of them are older that you'd expect. Yeah, 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.800 this is a little old to be screeching like a 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.320 to take what's spit flying out of your mouth, claiming 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.040 that men can declare themselves to be women. So the 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.320 whole woke world, whether it's climate change, trands, or whatever 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:13.159 your aspect you're grabbing onto at the time, it really 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:18.600 is got a serious religious thing going to it. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.440 it has all the earmarks of religion, right. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:21.679 You know. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.000 It's the original sin of being white, for instance, and 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.320 the only way you can overcome that original sin is 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.680 by begging us on your knees to forgive you. Well, 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:33.520 as I was reading some of the commentaries to that 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.760 video by like learned people, and one person pointing out, 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.480 you can see a not very. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.640 Long step from those. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:50.080 People's level of anger to Muslim dudes chuck and rocks 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.480 at some chick to stoner to death because she committed adultery. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.240 It's not a giant leap. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.919 Oh no, no, not at all, not at all. Some 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.239 of those people looked capable of murder. Yeah, wild So 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.720 Interestingly enough, I saw subsequent to that on our Twitter feed, 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.240 you were got into a little well, you kind of 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:13.240 retweeted something from Tim Sandover, and Tim was reacting to 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:17.040 a tweet by a dude named David Cole, who was 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.040 talking about Harvard, for instance, and the other universities how 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.199 they are now fighting against Trump, and how admirable that is, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.440 because if you give into a mob boss, that's the beginning, 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.480 not the end, of one's servitude. Why Harvard chose not 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:36.680 to appease Trump, and Tim pointed out that you give 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.960 into the mob boss when you accept money from him. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.359 When the mob boss does that favor for you, that's 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.560 when you say no. Not when he comes back to 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.879 you later and it expects you to repay the favor, 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.119 then it's way, way, way too late. And obviously the 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.199 mob boss he's talking about is these universities getting huge 0:19:54.359 --> 0:20:01.080 buckets of federal tax payer money, cash from the federal government, 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.920 various forms of support. And just real quickly, I thought 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.960 it was interesting the editorial board at the Wall Street 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.159 Journal was talking about the Harvard versus the Trump administration thing, 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:17.240 and specifically the tax exempt status question, and I found 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.480 their argument pretty strong that we're in a situation now 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:26.280 where and y'all may remember this, and we went crazy 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:31.520 over this when Obama and his people in effect declared 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:37.280 any tea party nonprofit to be not a charitable organization, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:38.160 we denied them. 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:39.800 There is that five oh one C. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:40.120 Three. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.920 I can never remember the tax code. I'm not an 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.720 accountant near a tax attorney. But anyway, we started this 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.520 show together. You said you were an accountant. Well, and 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.800 that's why you did that short you know, a jail 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.199 term for your taxes. 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.120 I'm sorry, I thought I could handle it. 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.280 But anyway, So the fact that Congress has to get 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.440 involved in this, and you can't have the exact executive 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:05.040 branch declaring that, yeah, you were tax exempt last year, 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.280 but you're not now because I hate what you're doing, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.720 uh huh, And that Congress has got to weigh in 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.560 on this because when President AOC gets in there, what 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.480 the hell is she going to revoke the tax exempt status? 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.879 For sure? I mean, it's it's a nightmare in the making. 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:22.880 So I thought that was a pretty balanced and reasonable 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.159 way to look at it, which leads me to one 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:29.080 of my favorite things that I've read recently, and Jack 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.919 obviously feel free to interject whenever you want, but the 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:36.160 always even killed Matt Tayebi. His headline is the Government, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.080 the Harvard Government divorce is the feel good story of 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.040 the ages. When a couple should have never been together, 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:43.119 and they finally break up. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.920 It's a happy thing. What a funny analogy to use. 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.840 Yeah, taking kind of a different tack than Tim's mob 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:55.480 boss thing. But and then there's a paragraph of a summary. 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.720