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Speaker 3: I had to sacrifice the season to be able to

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Speaker 3: get on point within the season. No, So my only

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Speaker 3: advice for people that's trying to get into the business,

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Speaker 3: no matter what it is, do your research because a

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Speaker 3: lot of my fails happened because I didn't have the

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Speaker 3: proper research. You know, when you're incarcerated, you can only

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Speaker 3: get but so much information. And when I came home,

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Speaker 3: I thought I knew everything, and I didn't know anything.

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Speaker 4: My graduates from my school being false bad drop drop, Mike,

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Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back, e y L were back home.

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Speaker 5: It's been a minute, very rare, exciting. So this is

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Speaker 5: this is an interview that is really dope for a

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Speaker 5: variety of different reasons. But Daryl Austin, so one of

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Speaker 5: these things that we always talked about being in the

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Speaker 5: right place at the right time. We're talking about investments

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Speaker 5: coming up, and it's very important to put yourself around

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Speaker 5: the people that you actually want to connect with. So

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Speaker 5: we were in La Shout out to BT, and we

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Speaker 5: were at the BT House House of BT, and we

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Speaker 5: a few people you know connected with us like YO,

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Speaker 5: and it was one gentleman for sure, Darryl, who I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure how he got to me, but he met

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Speaker 5: me and he was it was very quick. This what's

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Speaker 5: important to have an elevator pitch. Also, the same thing happened,

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Speaker 5: ironically enough. I'm actually wearing east Side Golf. Jordan's today

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Speaker 5: shout out to east Side Golf and they met us

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Speaker 5: at a hotel lobby and type of similar situation upon

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Speaker 5: he was very concise. I think he showed me some pictures.

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Speaker 5: He's like, yo, I got a luxury brand. We were

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Speaker 6: He called me at the front of the stage, right

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Speaker 6: It wasn't even you, it was your.

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Speaker 4: Man, like yo, no, my man, my man caught here,

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Speaker 6: We came all away from Philly. This has to happen, bro,

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Speaker 6: and I think we walked all the way to the car, like, Yo,

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Speaker 5: But but the thing I liked about it, and we'll

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Speaker 5: And so if anybody follows me, you know, I do

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Speaker 5: the Drip Report, Legendary Drip Report where I chronicle my outfits,

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Speaker 6: Long journey here, he said, he willing to go anywhere.

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Speaker 5: You got to. You already know you got to. So

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Speaker 5: let's let's get into this. So Bungee Chi, that's how

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Speaker 3: It was for all the ups and downs in my life,

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Speaker 3: You know, I was out on tour, I was rapping,

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Speaker 3: Then I'm back in jail. And it was just a

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Speaker 3: So I felt like bungeie fit everyone. And then I

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Speaker 4: It was the rapper in me. It was like, no,

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Speaker 4: And then I had to figure out how to say it.

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Speaker 6: So there's been barriers with that. I'm sure right when

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Speaker 4: Why does it have to be Bungie?

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Speaker 3: And then it's like why do you have to have

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Speaker 3: But I just kind of feel like that's what's in

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Speaker 5: It's like, biaga, Yeah, you know how to say that.

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Speaker 5: You say that exactly for sure.

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Speaker 6: You know how to pay for it too.

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Speaker 5: Out find a way, all right, So let's get this backstory.

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Speaker 5: It was a very interesting backstory. So you're from Pennsylvania

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Speaker 5: Okay. So you grow up and at what point do

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Speaker 3: I got incarcerated when I turned like twenty two. It

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Speaker 5: Okay, and then from then it was an ongoing in

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Speaker 4: It was the same thing that Meet Mill was going through.

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Speaker 6: So what was the longest stretch that you was in there?

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Speaker 4: Six and a half six and a half years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so and you've been home for seven years. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: all right. So you're going through the system, in and out, parole, violations,

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Speaker 5: getting locked up, getting violated, getting locked up. You would

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Speaker 5: shout out to wallow to six seven, shout out to

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Speaker 5: six seven. And so at what point do you say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: this is enough, I'm tired. Because a lot of people

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Speaker 5: in child support situation. You can actually go to jail

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Speaker 5: for that before. People don't realize how easy it is

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Speaker 5: this is not for me, like I'm doing something different.

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Speaker 3: Well, first, I felt like the whole time that I

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Speaker 6: So you got the architects skills from walking around, you

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Speaker 5: So your mom said something I was very insightful. She said,

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Speaker 4: And I'll never forget that, she said that.

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Speaker 6: And this business, like the other part is that you've

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's that's a very insightful commentary on her part.

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Speaker 3: I came home from prison and I come home to

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Speaker 3: I came home and the like, when was it I

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Speaker 3: And he was just like, you got a business plan?

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Speaker 6: Earnest, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Check this out. We're gonna do something really special for y'all.

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Speaker 6: I know y'all enjoying this episode with my brother Dalel

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Speaker 6: Oilson and his luxury sneaker brand.

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Speaker 2: All right, show, here's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 6: When you head over to a Bungee brand dot com,

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Speaker 6: We're giving you fifty dollars off your purchase of men's apparel,

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Speaker 2: That's fifty dollars off. Here's what you gotta do. Use

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Speaker 2: the code EYL that sucks eyls real simple, fifty dollars

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Speaker 6: Get your drip on.

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Speaker 2: You know how we do drip responsibly.

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Speaker 4: And he was like, meet me at the bank tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you how to get the II in

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Speaker 3: But then two days of that meeting, and that's how

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Speaker 6: So that's that's pretty incredible. Sout to Ernest. So the picture,

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Speaker 6: he's he you have the shoes on display in the

435
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,760
Speaker 6: barber shop so people can come in, they can actually

436
00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,160
Speaker 6: see the point.

437
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 3: I didn't do it for the people to see how

438
00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,080
Speaker 3: I was doing it, because you got to remember, I

439
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 3: was a bench warmer.

440
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 4: I just came home. I'm in there. No one wants

441
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,320
Speaker 4: to get in my chair, you know.

442
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,359
Speaker 5: So he was a barber.

443
00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a barber, So no one wanted to

444
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,560
Speaker 3: get my chair because no one around there knew me

445
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 3: as a barber. They knew me as a drug dealer

446
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,560
Speaker 3: and that was it. So no, like they would bypass

447
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 3: my chair and go to the other dudes. So I

448
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 3: would just put the sneakers in the window and just

449
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 3: look to see like what can I change on it?

450
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,359
Speaker 4: What can I do to make it look better?

451
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 6: Like, you know, so you're watching the people walking by,

452
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,320
Speaker 6: seeing if they're getting interested in. Yeah, Okay, this one

453
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 6: is gonna be This's gonna work. Yeah, people keep stopping.

454
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 5: Yeah that's how So the first so you said the SAMP,

455
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,080
Speaker 5: so you're just like getting like one off from like

456
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,919
Speaker 5: China and something like that. And just like I went to.

457
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Speaker 4: Ali Baba dot Com.

458
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 3: I found a little manufacturer right there, and uh, you know,

459
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 3: I was getting samples and the thing is like when

460
00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 3: you get the samples from these places, they're expecting you

461
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 3: to place order and I wasn't place in order, so

462
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 3: they'd be like, nah, we ain't doing no more samples

463
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 3: for you, like ten out of time, so I have

464
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 3: to do like other I would have to do other manufacturers.

465
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 3: So I would have like seven samples but from seven

466
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 3: different factories, you know what I'm saying.

467
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,440
Speaker 6: And they all expected you.

468
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they all expected the bulk order and I

469
00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 4: just didn't have the money to do it next, so

470
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 4: like they go find another one. Check the reviews.

471
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 5: Anybody that's not familiar with samps. So it's like what

472
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 5: he was. So like we get our stuff made overseas,

473
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 5: and like before we actually decided we're gonna work with

474
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 5: this guy, like we gave him like a couple, like

475
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 5: a track suit, hoodie, T shirt dad, and then he

476
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,440
Speaker 5: made like, let's say, like ten pieces of clothes for us,

477
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 5: sent it to us. We paid for it, but he

478
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,360
Speaker 5: sent it to us so that way we can check

479
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 5: the material, see if it's right, go back and say, nah,

480
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 5: this is off. You need to add something here. That's

481
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 5: what he's referring to as far as like samples, right,

482
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 5: But they're expecting it to be like all right now,

483
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 5: now we're going to order a thousand pieces in But

484
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 5: you was just like, all right, I'm done to the next.

485
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 3: Because I didn't have the money, I don't know money

486
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: to get the samples made. And you know, like a

487
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: sneaker sample is different than like a hoodie and a

488
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 3: T shirt and stuff.

489
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 4: It's a lot more involved with it.

490
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 3: And I didn't know that involvement at the time, you

491
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I'm thinking, they make sneakers. I

492
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 3: send them a sketch, They tell me what materials it is,

493
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: They let me know everything because they already make sneakers.

494
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 4: But I didn't realize that.

495
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 3: You know, you have to handpick every single thing of

496
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 3: your shoes. So like my samples were just what they

497
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 3: created off of my sketch, and you know, we were

498
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 3: getting a lot of people looking at them just because

499
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 3: it was new.

500
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Speaker 4: But one thing that I learned, and I had to

501
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 4: learn the hard way.

502
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 3: Is I had hundreds of people coming through that barbershop

503
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 3: at that time, and they would all be like, Yo,

504
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: I want to sign such and such, I want to

505
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 3: size just want to size that. So I based my

506
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: order off of how many people were saying that they

507
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: wanted them. Once I got them back, knowing wanted I'm

508
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: chasing them down like, hey, yo, like remember you said

509
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 3: you want to size nine and they here, I don't

510
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,719
Speaker 3: want them, Like I'm good, I'm good. So like you know,

511
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: to me, I feel like trying to get people to

512
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: wear your sneakers is equivalent to trying to get someone

513
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: that's been going to a certain barber and trying to

514
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: get them to change barbers, Like would you guys, You

515
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: guys wear Jordan's all this time. Trying to convince someone

516
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: that loves Jordan's to wear a different type of sneaker

517
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: is hard, you know what I'm saying, Because they never

518
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 3: heard of you, they don't know what the brand is,

519
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, I remember when I first

520
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: got my sneaker samples and I put them up on Instagram,

521
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: and this is when.

522
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 4: I thought I was popping right.

523
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: All I kept seeing was all these different comments saying

524
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: what are those? And my dumb ass is sitting there

525
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: hitting them back like yeah, this is the new bunge

526
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 3: out the chitty, and I'm thinking that one of those

527
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 3: is a compliment because I didn't know what that meant.

528
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: And then you know, one of my homies hit me up.

529
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, they playing you roll like, stop responding.

530
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 6: I'm just in these kids these days. Man.

531
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was crazy.

532
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: And the one thing that I noticed is that, like

533
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: everyone that made those comments, I would click on their

534
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: page to see who they were, and they all had

535
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: Jordans on their page. So I knew right then and

536
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: there and anyone that likes George, They're not gonna like my brand.

537
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's just that simple.

538
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 6: So when you send the samples and even putting them

539
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 6: up on Instagram, because it's almost like when we put

540
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 6: up a pool, it's like we had to trademark that power.

541
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 6: What is that like? Do you have to make a

542
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 6: patent for that design? Do you have to trademark design.

543
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tricky.

544
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: It's tricky with shoes because there's only but so many

545
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: silhouettes that you can do. So what we experienced was

546
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: you couldn't really trademark the silhouette. You had to trademark

547
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: like the design of it or the logo on it.

548
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: And sometimes you can like patent or trademark of color,

549
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: but it has to be a color that's not already

550
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: out there, you know what I mean, So you got

551
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: to create your own. So like for me, it's like

552
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: when I actually looked at it, it was only a

553
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: certain amount of silhouettes, so it's like every silhouette is

554
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 3: going to be similar. Now, that's one thing that I

555
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: was impressed with with Easy, Like they came out with

556
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: their own silhouette, did their own things like and he

557
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: changed it for real, like you know. And for me,

558
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 3: being as I have my own brand, I don't really

559
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: wear anything else but my stuff.

560
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 4: But like I had the cop I had to, I

561
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 4: had to.

562
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: I always grab the stuff that doesn't look normal, you

563
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And I'm really surprised with how

564
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: many people will not wear something that's not normal until

565
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: they see someone else.

566
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: Wearing it and that's the validation.

567
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the difficult part for me because I'm

568
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: the kind of person where I can walk into a

569
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 3: store and I can scan the room and I know

570
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: within three seconds if I want that or that or that,

571
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and I'll grab it and

572
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: I keep it moving. There's other people that are out

573
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 3: there that I'm realizing that it's like it's going to

574
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: take them a long time. They don't know which color

575
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: to get. They like this shoe, but they like, you know,

576
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: I don't know do you have it in blue? Or

577
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: do you have anything to wear with this? Like I

578
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 3: know right away what I'm going to do. And then

579
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: the other thing that I didn't realize that people do

580
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: is they want to know backstories.

581
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 4: It's like for me, I don't.

582
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 3: Care how you know Gucci got the beginning. If I

583
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: like a Gucci snick, I'm grabbing them. Like I never

584
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: really took the time out to like do that kind

585
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: of research. So I'm really surprised that people do that much.

586
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, when it comes time for us,

587
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 3: it's like number one, they look at me as being

588
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: a black owned business, so they equate black with being cheap.

589
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

590
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: And it's just a harsh reality. And every time someone

591
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: sees my merchandise in person or actually touches it, they're like, oh,

592
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: how did you do this? You know what I'm saying,

593
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: how are you able to do this? And like at

594
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: trade shows, like black people would actually come up to

595
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: me and say that, oh man, how did you get

596
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: to this?

597
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: You own this, this is your company.

598
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they just don't understand that a black person

599
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: can have a quality sneaker, you know what I mean.

600
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 3: It's not like, you know, a pair or anything like that.

601
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: It's much more difficult to do. But you know, they

602
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: just automatically as soon as we're going to have something cheap,

603
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 3: Like it's crazy.

604
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 6: So you get to fifty thousand, Yeah, in your mind

605
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 6: you're thinking like, oh, this is.

606
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: Enough, but because I thought I made it.

607
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've been scrambling with what you had and now

608
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 6: you got fifty. So what's the process now that you

609
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 6: got to fifty? What's the next step?

610
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: But what I did was I ended up placing the

611
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 3: order with China, and I ended up getting the sneaker order,

612
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: and I was in for a route awakening because I

613
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: had no idea that I had to pay for customs,

614
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: I had to pay for export tax. I didn't know

615
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: anything about any of this stuff. All I know is

616
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: when I got my samples, they would make them and

617
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: they would send them to my house. So I thought

618
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: it was going directly to my house. It was nothing

619
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: like that.

620
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: You know.

621
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: I had to pay for cargo ship. I had to

622
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: pay for the space on the ship. I had to

623
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: pay for truck drivers. Like all these different things I

624
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: didn't equate. So by the time I ended up getting

625
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: the sneaker order back, I remember Customs ended up taking

626
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: the package because I was a new business and they

627
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: wanted to search it. They ended up searching I had

628
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: to pay them for searching it. And then I remember

629
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: hiring a trucking service to pick it up and take

630
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: it to my storage facility. And I got to the

631
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: storage facility and I was like, I'm almost Brooke. I

632
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: remember saying it. I was talking to myself bro As

633
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, I was on Facebook Live and

634
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: I remember saying it like yeah, you know what I mean.

635
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 4: I made it. Check it out, look look.

636
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: And you know, everybody was all like cheering me on,

637
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: like yo, that's crazy. You did it blah blah blah.

638
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 3: And in my mind, I'm thinking I ran through that

639
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: fifty but I got about a quarter million dollars worth

640
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: of stuff here, you know what I'm saying. I remember

641
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: after I got off Facebook Live, I opened the box up,

642
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: opened a sneaker up, and I'm like.

643
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: What the f is this? Because it was poly your

644
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: theme leather. It wasn't leather. It wasn't the same leather

645
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 4: that they used on the samples.

646
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: They basically got my order that got the money, and

647
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: then they gave me the cheapest leather that they can

648
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: get so they can make more.

649
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: Of a profit.

650
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 5: You sent them the nah nah.

651
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: Like the way it was, I think it was like

652
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: twenty eight thousand for the whole order. Then it was like,

653
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, ten thousand to get it shipped over here.

654
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: Then it was like, you know, two thousand with the

655
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: import export stuff, and like it was all broke down

656
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: to damn near forty three thousand or something like that.

657
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: And the product was it was it was trash.

658
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: So what'd you do? I was trying to sell it anyway.

659
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 5: And I stepped on Yeah, yes, one of those dudes.

660
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: I was running around saying, yo, this is top notch,

661
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: just top quality. Yo, check this out.

662
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: And at the time I didn't realize that, you know

663
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: those dudes that buy top quality stuff, no, that it's

664
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: not top quality.

665
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 4: So, you know, I equated it to like the music business.

666
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: Sometimes when I used to do the music thing, and

667
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: I'll be able to walk into a room with someone

668
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 3: major that can put me in a good position. Sometimes

669
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 3: you only got that one time to get their eared

670
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: If it's not right, you're not getting their ear back,

671
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I felt like around

672
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: my way, I kind of messed up my reputation with

673
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: the clothes and the sneaks that I was getting because

674
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: I was literally that dude that was going to buy

675
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: Gil d' and t's. I would go to a little

676
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 3: pressing place at the mall or something, press my name

677
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: on it, and like, yo, I got a high end brand,

678
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: guild Dan still on the back. You know what I'm saying.

679
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: I got a high end brand. I didn't know any better,

680
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: because again, you know, I came from prison.

681
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 6: I didn't know.

682
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: So yes, I'm thinking I got this high end name.

683
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: I got a high end brand.

684
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: Now.

685
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: So after I ended up doing all that, it didn't

686
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: work out. For me, and I didn't sell anything, and

687
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: no one was really buying ex stuff for like the

688
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: core people that really wanted to help me out, I

689
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: didn't really sell much of anything. So at that point, yeah, yeah,

690
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm selling them. I'm selling them out the barbershop and

691
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: going to my man's barbershop. Like people are getting to

692
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: know who I am and what I'm doing. But they

693
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: just wasn't fans of the sneakers. So and then a

694
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: couple people would buy hoodies and stuff. I was only

695
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: selling twenty five dollar hoodies and stuff like that, so

696
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: it wasn't, you know, anything that was that much.

697
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: Stuff.

698
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 3: They wanted to support, they would, but what happened was

699
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: it just got to a standstill one day where I

700
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: couldn't sell anything. And I remember that the Eagles won

701
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and when they won that Super Bowl,

702
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: were in there watching the Super Ball parade, and one

703
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: of the customers in there turned around, looked at me

704
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: and was like, yo, if you had something with the

705
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: Eagles on it, you'd be rich right now. So soon

706
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: as he said it, I started brainstorming and I started

707
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: sketching the Eagle sneaker. So I ended up getting the

708
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: Eagle sneaker made with the last little bit of money

709
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 3: that I had, and then I ended up borrowing some

710
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: money from a friend to be able to get it

711
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: shipped over here. And what I did was I did

712
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: it a little bit differently this time. I ended up

713
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: getting them flown over instead of by sea, because by

714
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: sea it took like thirty four days. Then customs saw

715
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: that they intercepted it and there was a whole bunch

716
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: of unnecessary stuff, so I ended up getting them flown over,

717
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: so it got like sent directly to my house. So

718
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: I ended up with like two hundred and fifty sneakers.

719
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: That's all I could really afford. And the next day

720
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: I woke up at like six o'clock in the morning,

721
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: they were talking about doing a pep rally down to

722
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Fox twenty nine. So when they did the pep rollley,

723
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo, they're doing the Eagles pep rallley.

724
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm going down there. So I went and got a

725
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: little Uhau truck.

726
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: Put all them sneakers in the back, and I drove

727
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: down Center City, which is about thirty five minutes from

728
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: my house, and I remember walking up the sidewalk with

729
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: a wagon like it was a wagon literally with boxes

730
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: and sneakers on it, with an Eagle sneaker in my hand,

731
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 3: And as soon as I walked up, you know, the

732
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: news cast people were outside. As soon as I walked up,

733
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: they were just like yo, like what's that? And then

734
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: next thing you know, they're putting me on TV. People

735
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: are catching the bus down there, people jumping out their cars,

736
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: grabbing their pair and I'm just out there hustling, not

737
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: realizing it's illegal.

738
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: I wasn't supposed to be selling them Egle sneakers, you

739
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like, I didn't I didn't get

740
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: permission from the Eagles and do that.

741
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 6: It was like somebody on it was like the logo,

742
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 6: did the.

743
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: Logo everything everything.

744
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna show you guys a picture before it's over, right,

745
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I had

746
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: the whole thing. I had the Super Bowl to tag

747
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 3: and everything on it. Right, So you know, I ended

748
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: up selling out that day. So I ended up making

749
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: a lot of money back, you know what I mean.

750
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: Like I was literally going back to the truck stashing

751
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: money in the truck because I didn't want to get

752
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: ribbed out there, and I would run back out finished hustling,

753
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: So I ended up selling everything except for like four

754
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: pair something like that.

755
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 6: How much did it colost to make those niggers?

756
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: At that time?

757
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: It was like thirty two dollars to make a pair,

758
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: and I was selling them for one seventy five, you

759
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But when you add in the

760
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: shipping costs and all that, it came out to being

761
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: like sixty something dollars a pair.

762
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 5: Hundred margin.

763
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah good, Yeah.

764
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: And I was always told you're supposed to mark up

765
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: at least three times. And I understand now because even

766
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: like in my position when I did the foot locker deal,

767
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: like foot Locker is only going to pay like forty

768
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: five percent at max of the retail costs. So it's

769
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: like I really only made like twenty dollars off the

770
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: foot Locker off of each pair, you know what I'm saying.

771
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: But for me, it was the exposure. It wasn't really

772
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: about the money.

773
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: But it's like those are the things that I had

774
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: to had to learn through trial and error. But after

775
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: I ended up doing the Eagles thing, I'm like that

776
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go get more Eagle sneakers made.

777
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill him for Christmas, you know what I'm saying,

778
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: because you know, football season is still in during Christmas.

779
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking I'm gonna do that.

780
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: And I'm literally like two days after I blew up

781
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: off of that, I'm at the barbershop and I had

782
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: my new samples on and a guy came that I

783
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: knew and asked me if I knew someone that wanted

784
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: the TV. And I'm like nah, and he was like, yo, like,

785
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: I got this TV my boss is giving away. You

786
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: might want to you might want to take this or

787
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: give it to somebody. It's really nice, Like all right,

788
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: So I ride down there and I was just spending

789
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: tea before. Like the dude's crib was huge. The fence

790
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 3: opened up like this. I dropped the driveway driveways.

791
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: A mile along.

792
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: I got animals on both sides of the gate, and

793
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: I was just blown away because I didn't realize that

794
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: this kind of house was even in my area because

795
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: I lived in my area and I never left. I

796
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: was never really on a plane before, nothing like I

797
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: just stayed in my hood.

798
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: That was it.

799
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: So after that happened, I go inside with picking the

800
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: TV up, and his boss's wife comes out and.

801
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: She's like, oh my god, where'd you get those sneakers?

802
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: And I put the TV down, my elevator pitch. You

803
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

804
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I did this, I did that, and

805
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: I broke it all down to her. It's like, we

806
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: do you have a website? And the website was trash.

807
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: Website was tracked because it was just I used my

808
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: cell phone. I just made a website real quick. And

809
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: she still liked it enough for her to get her

810
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: employee to call me back and set up a meeting

811
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: between me and her husband. So me and her husband

812
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: met at his house, and you know, I basically explained

813
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: to him, like listen, I don't want to waste your time.

814
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: I was formally incarcerated and he wanted to know what

815
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: I did. It was all drug charges. I had weapons

816
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: charges too, and he was like, you didn't have a

817
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: good lawyer, did you?

818
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: And he laughed at me. I'm like, yeah, that's not funny, man,

819
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

820
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: But anyway, he was like, y'all, I'm not worried about that, Like,

821
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: what's going on with your business?

822
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: What is it?

823
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: And I told him everything that was going on, and

824
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: that's when he told me, I wouldn't recommend you using

825
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: those ego sneakers again, like you'll.

826
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: Get in trouble for that.

827
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: So I was happy that he taught me that because

828
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, if I would have got another order, they

829
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: would have got seized or something I'd have been done,

830
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: that would have been my last bit of money, you

831
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So after that, by the time

832
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: he got done, you know, talking for about two hours,

833
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: he was like, I know someone that was in your

834
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: shoes just two years ago when he's a millionaire of

835
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: the day. He didn't do fashion, but he was just

836
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: starting a business, and he was like, I really want

837
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: you to meet him. He might be able to guide

838
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: you some sort of way. So at this point, I'm

839
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: not thinking about finances. I'm not thinking about getting anything

840
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: from them except knowledge. And you know, one thing that

841
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: I was basing this off of was like I was

842
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: telling you earlier. You know, coming from prison, you come

843
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: back with a lot of bad habits. So I didn't

844
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: know how to sit in a room with people and communicate,

845
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I had all the slouching

846
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: and the you know what I'm saying. So it was

847
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: like I had to learn all over again how to

848
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: communicate with these people. So I'm in these boardrooms and

849
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: I'm looking at how they how they're folding their hands

850
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: and how they're folding their legs and how they're talking

851
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: and communicating, and I just would mimic it. And that's

852
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: how I started to get into these big rooms and

853
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: know how to handle myself, just from copying off of

854
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: their stuff. So I get into this conference room and

855
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm talking to the guy that I'm thinking that I'm

856
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: talking to for the meeting, and as we're talking, people

857
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: are just slowly coming into this room, like putting their

858
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: briefcases down and all that.

859
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: So to get back to what I was.

860
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: Saying, there are all these people are coming into the room,

861
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: and I had no idea who they were, you know

862
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I'm just sitting there and I'm like,

863
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: all right, I'm going to keep entertaining all these different

864
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: people until the guy comes in. He comes in, He's like, Yo,

865
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: did he get it? Did he get an opportunity to

866
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: tell you guys about the story? And they was like nah,

867
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: And then I just told him everything, and I just

868
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: told you about I created everything in prison, and they

869
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 3: were all blown away with it and they're like, yo,

870
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Speaker 3: like you you designed this while you were there. And

871
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, every single thing you see on

872
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Speaker 3: this table was all design while I was incarcerated. So

873
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: even this, all this stuff is all, you know, stuff

874
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Speaker 3: from when I was incarcerated.

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Speaker 4: And they were like, how much money do you need?

876
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Speaker 3: And I was like seven grand and they laughed at me, like,

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Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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Speaker 4: Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland

935
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Speaker 4: Security chase someone away from going to prison in the

936
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Speaker 4: first place.

937
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Speaker 3: So I told them that I would do it. Shortly

938
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: after that, I ended up getting with the Financial Group.

939
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: I didn't realize at the time I was in a

940
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Speaker 3: real live shark tank. So fortunately for me, I knew

941
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: the business well enough to be able to break it

942
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: down to them, and they all congratulated me for a

943
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: good pitch and all that, and I ended up leaving out.

944
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: I met with the financial Group and they decided that

945
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Speaker 3: I needed at least a million dollars and I left.

946
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, who's going to give me a million dollars? Bro?

947
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: Like cut it out, you know what I'm saying, So

948
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: like that.

949
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they ended up getting with the investors, and

950
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: the investors greed, but they were like, we're not going

951
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 3: to do a million, We'll do seven fifty just to see,

952
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, if this works out. And that was like

953
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: the beginning, but it wasn't. It wasn't all good after that.

954
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: The bungeie still was bouncing up and down.

955
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Speaker 5: So it was like private equity farm.

956
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they they're actually it people. They never invested

957
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: in fashion or anything like that. I was the first guy.

958
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: And the thing that I liked about these guys is,

959
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Speaker 3: you know, they came at a time where, you know,

960
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Speaker 3: they just wanted to help a black owned business, So

961
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 3: they didn't really try to knock me over the head

962
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Speaker 3: with a large amount of percentages.

963
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Speaker 4: Like I still own the majority of the business.

964
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Speaker 3: They gave me a lot of money towards it, and

965
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Speaker 3: they still gave me a lot of the equity of

966
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Speaker 3: the business, and I appreciate it.

967
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Speaker 5: So it's like they became an angel investors. Yeah, and

968
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Speaker 5: they took a percentage of the company and they gave

969
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Speaker 5: you money. Yeah, were there are the strings attached to

970
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Speaker 5: it or you had free range to kind of.

971
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Speaker 3: No no strings attached. They just, you know, they just

972
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Speaker 3: wanted to see me successful. They gave me the money

973
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: and they gave me the connections, and they were like, listen,

974
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Speaker 3: whatever you need to do to go find better mans manufacturing,

975
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: go ahead. So I ended up flying out the Vegas

976
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Speaker 3: to one of the manufacturing trade shows and that's how I.

977
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Speaker 4: Ended up meeting the companies I deal with.

978
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Speaker 3: So now instead of the whole China you know, poly

979
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Speaker 3: your thane, leather, now I'm dealing with Italy, I deal

980
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: with Portugal, I deal with Spain. So I have all

981
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: those type of guys you know with me now. And

982
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Speaker 3: there's a couple of high end sneaker companies that go

983
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: through the same factories as mine.

984
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Speaker 6: So you get the You got the fifteen, and it

985
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 6: was business scaled up, and now you've got the seven fifteen.

986
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Speaker 4: I didn't get to seven fifty.

987
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 6: You didn't get the seven fifty. They just invested.

988
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: Nah, they told me that like we were going to

989
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: do seven fifty, and then after we ended up talking

990
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Speaker 3: about that, they gave me a small amount I think

991
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: it was like twenty five thousand just to be able

992
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Speaker 3: to get my office started, get furniture, get embroidery machines,

993
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. As matter of fact, was more

994
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: than that, because I got the embroidery machine was much

995
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: more than that. So I ended up getting all these

996
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: different things in the office and furniture, and right after

997
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: I got the last desk s crew together, I ended

998
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 3: up getting a phone telling me to turn the news on.

999
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: I turned the news on. The Donald Trump said we

1000
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: gotta shut down this COVID. We got shut down for

1001
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: two weeks. So when I got that phone call and

1002
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: we had to shut down for two weeks. I'm talking

1003
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: to the main investor and he's like, yo, like I

1004
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 3: never see anything like this before in my lifetime. I'm

1005
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: not putting anything else up, I'm not doing anything business wise.

1006
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: We need to figure out what we're gonna do. So

1007
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: at that point I got scared because I'm like, Okay,

1008
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: he's nervous. They don't want to give any more money

1009
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: up now. And now I'm basically back defending for myself,

1010
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So what I did was

1011
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: I locked myself in for that two weeks. I locked

1012
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: myself in my office and I just worked that whole year,

1013
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 3: because it ended up going from two weeks to much

1014
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: longer as we all know. And I worked that whole year.

1015
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: And right before the lease was up, the lead investor

1016
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: asked if him and a couple of the other investors

1017
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: could come down just to see what I was doing.

1018
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: And when they came into office, they were blown away

1019
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: with everything, Like with the way the office looked like

1020
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: I had a showroom in there. I had all the

1021
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: sneakers up, I had you know, clothes that I ended

1022
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: up creating. And again I never went to college. I

1023
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: never went to design school. I went to YouTube University.

1024
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: That's how I learned how to use my sewing machine

1025
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: and all that stuff.

1026
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: So, so you're making the clothes in the shop.

1027
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I do is I make the original thing,

1028
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: and then I send it out to the manufacturers.

1029
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: We just copy off of what I do.

1030
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 6: Is it just you? So like you're doing this, I'm

1031
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 6: thinking like, maybe there's a team, but is it just.

1032
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, I have a team now, But at the

1033
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: time I didn't have a team twenty twenty, yeah, twenty

1034
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 3: it was just me locked in the office. So I

1035
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: ended up, you know, creating all these different pieces. And

1036
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: when they came in, they were just like blowing away

1037
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: with everything that they saw, and it was like, there's

1038
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: no way that we could cheat the world by not

1039
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: letting the world see what you're doing. So at that

1040
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: point they're like, look, go ahead and get your first shoemade.

1041
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: So I ended up designing a shoe called the Camera Rillo,

1042
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: which is kind of similar to the black one over there,

1043
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: but it has like python, yeah yeah, but it has

1044
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: python on the toe. It was all white with yeah,

1045
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: it was all white. It had sweded on it. And

1046
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 3: they had python on the toe and I ended up

1047
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: releasing that first to a shoe store called Blue Sole Shoes. Now,

1048
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: at the time, I couldn't get any shoes to eat.

1049
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: I mean, any stores even want to deal with me

1050
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: at all. So what I did was I've reached out

1051
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: to him and I was like, listen, you know, if

1052
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: we can get you know, some press around this release,

1053
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: is it possible for us to be able to get

1054
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: into your store? So he was like yeah, yeah, So

1055
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: he let us get into the store and Channel three came.

1056
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: I remember like it was yesterday. They came and they

1057
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: gave me ten seconds. I'm like, hey, how you doing.

1058
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: My name is Darrel Loss, And I got a brand

1059
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: called Bungee we just released and Blue Blue Soul shoes.

1060
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: And it's really important to me because I created this

1061
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: in prison. Over it was over after that, you know

1062
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: what I mean. So literally the next day I ended

1063
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: up getting a phone call from one of the TV

1064
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: anchors off of that show, and they have their own show,

1065
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: so they interviewed me on that, and right after that,

1066
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: Channel six started calling Channel ten seventeen twenty nine. Next

1067
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: thing you know, I'm doing interviews with all these different

1068
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: independent local shows and all that, and I'm just building

1069
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: my exploit my brand. And I really was only doing

1070
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: it at first because I wanted to show all the

1071
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: people that saw the cheap stuff. I wanted them to

1072
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: know like, y'all, I'm not doing cheap stuff anymore, like

1073
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: this is real now. And it was like, I think

1074
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: I lost them because people around my way they don't

1075
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: rock my stuff.

1076
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: Like everywhere outside of that they wear my stuff. But

1077
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 4: I think I might have messed my name up with

1078
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: the people around the way.

1079
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: But anyway, after that ended up happening Inside Edition called,

1080
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: So I did Inside Edition after Inside Edition, then Fox

1081
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 3: News called, and Fox when I did my Fox News

1082
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: interview was all business and at the time I was

1083
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: just learning business. I didn't know anything about return on

1084
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: investments and all that kind of stuff. So they're asking

1085
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: me all these questions and I'm like, uh, I didn't

1086
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: know what to say. So after that, I started getting

1087
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: all these hate emails from you know, the you know,

1088
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: the people that filled the show. They're like, yo, you

1089
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: need to go back to prison and you know, get

1090
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 3: ft and da da da da da and.

1091
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: Maybe you'll learn your business better. Like they was grinding

1092
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: me up. So at this point, I'm insecure. I don't

1093
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: want to get on TV anymore. But then the Today's

1094
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: Show hit me up.

1095
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: When I did the Today's Show interview, like you know,

1096
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: when they hit me up, I I gotta do it.

1097
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: I gotta try to, you know, make a comeback off

1098
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: of this. And they gave me a nice amount of time.

1099
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: And with that interview, the guy the CEO, Dick Johnson

1100
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: from the CEO foot Locker, he saw the interview and

1101
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: he reached out to my camp and was like, listen,

1102
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: you know, we want to we want to put him

1103
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: in foot Locker now. This time, I just started hiring employees,

1104
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: which was the first time that I ever had to

1105
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: do anything like that. I'm not realizing that resumes are

1106
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 3: that important, you know. So I ran through a couple

1107
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: of different people and was like, nah, I can't I

1108
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: can't have you here. Like so, now I finally got

1109
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: a team that you know, I can trust, that I love,

1110
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: and you know, they bust her behind. But we ended

1111
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: up doing the foot Locker launch. The foot Locker Launcher

1112
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: King of Parsham Marrow was amazing. Even with COVID going on,

1113
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: we still had four or five hundred people waiting online

1114
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: to see the new products. So we ended up having

1115
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: a really really good event. So shortly after we did

1116
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: the foot Locker event, I get a call for Fox

1117
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: twenty nine, which I did the interview with Fox twenty

1118
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: nine earlier, and they were like, yo, like Nick Cannon

1119
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: just got his own TV show and we really wanted to,

1120
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: you know, surprise him with a pair of your sneakers.

1121
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking to myself, like, damn, they could have

1122
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: gotten in touch with Nike anybody, but they called me,

1123
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: so I felt special. So I felt like, if it's

1124
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: a Nick Cannon shoe, I gotta go all in. So

1125
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: I ended up making his image on the white sneakers,

1126
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: the white camrollos that are up there. So I put

1127
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: his image on there in leather, had you know, the

1128
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: suit material stuff on there. I caught one of my

1129
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: guys up. They ended up helping me out, and you know,

1130
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 3: we killed the sneaker and they gave me an opportunity

1131
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: to present it to him on Fox twenty nine. So

1132
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: when I got out there, he's like trying to figure

1133
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: out who I am, why I'm there. He's looking at

1134
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: me all crazy, like who is this dude, and I

1135
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: finally walked up to him on live on TV. I

1136
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: gave him this box with this big red bow on it,

1137
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: and he still didn't know what it was. They opened

1138
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: the box up and he was just like, yo, like

1139
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: you put me on here? Like this was crazy. He

1140
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: was like, who are you?

1141
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: Where'd you come from?

1142
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: I started like they literally only gave me like two

1143
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: minutes to say what I needed to say. So I

1144
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: said everything about the prison and all that, and he

1145
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: was so blown away that by the time he went

1146
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: to the next commercial, I'm like, all right, man, nice

1147
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: meeting you.

1148
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: He's like, nah, man, give me a hug. Dog.

1149
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: So I gave him a hug and then he walks

1150
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: over to the side with me and he's like, yo,

1151
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: like where how did you start this? And then I

1152
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 3: had other sneakers for him. I had different color of these.

1153
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: I gave him knees. I gave him like three other

1154
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: pair and he was like, I just want to know

1155
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: how you started this.

1156
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 6: Man.

1157
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: He was like, I see a lot of people with

1158
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 3: clothing brands, but I never seen anyone with a sneaker

1159
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: brand like this. So I told him what I did,

1160
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: and that split a couple of minutes and then he's like, YO,

1161
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: give me your numbers. I gave him the number. I'm like, Nick,

1162
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 3: you know you're not gonna call me. You're about to

1163
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: pull one of them. Uh what's the boys name that

1164
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: was on Martin You know what I'm talking about, Tommy Davison.

1165
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: Dude. He's like, if you was in l A, you

1166
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: be on my ship. Like I told Hi, I was like,

1167
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: don't Varnel help me, man, I don't do that till

1168
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: don't Varnell hear me. He was like I'm not, man,

1169
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I got you. So he was like

1170
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: all right.

1171
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: So I left and by the time I got to

1172
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: my off office, he had already texted me saying that

1173
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: he was gonna, you know, get back at me. And

1174
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: then his producer's call and was like, YO, like, we

1175
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: want you to come to the show on Monday. Nick's

1176
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 3: really excited. He wants you to be on the show

1177
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: like asat So I'm like, all right, cool. So I

1178
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 3: ended up leaving the office or whatever got everything set

1179
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: up for that Monday because it was literally like a Friday,

1180
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: and I ended up going to the show and you know,

1181
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: Nick treated me like I was the star. Like he

1182
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 3: had me feeling like I was the one I'm supposed

1183
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: to be happy to see him, but he treated me

1184
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 3: like royalty.

1185
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: Man.

1186
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 4: It worked out.

1187
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: So after we ended up doing that interview, it just

1188
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: kept like spiraling out of control, like with all the

1189
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: different things that was happening. And that's why I knew

1190
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: that I was supposed to be here when I made

1191
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: that prayer all the way back when I was in prison,

1192
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 3: and after I made that prayer, everything is just is

1193
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 3: just flowing smoothly. Even if I have a little down time,

1194
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: it goes way back past what I could have ever expected.

1195
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: So right after I ended up doing a Nick Cannon interview,

1196
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: I ended up going to a Neiman Marcus and they

1197
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: saw the sneakers in the clothes that I had on

1198
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 3: and wanted to know more.

1199
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 6: Next you're walking into the store and somebody.

1200
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: Said, yeah, what happened was they was actually having a

1201
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 3: Nema Marcus event. And I had this bright orange job

1202
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: of Chenny sweater with an a T underneath of it,

1203
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: and then I had my sneaks on the match the sweater,

1204
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: and when I got to the top of the escalator,

1205
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 3: it seemed like everybody just went like this I'm like,

1206
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on, but you know, yeah.

1207
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: So next thing, you know, everyone started to talk to me.

1208
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: Everyone wanted to take pictures and stuff like that. And

1209
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: then I got with the general manager of NAMHN Marcus.

1210
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: We had a meeting and then they saw like the

1211
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: card against sweaters and stuff that I had in the

1212
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: back of the zoom and they was like, yo, we

1213
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 3: we we went. We want to do something with you.

1214
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 6: So in your mind, right as you're you're you're looking

1215
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: at these events, you're very intentionally going to these events, right,

1216
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: Are you just saying, let me design a fit that's

1217
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 6: going to make draw people's attention, or you're just saying

1218
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 6: let me just come fresh, Like I just come fresh,

1219
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 6: Come fresh.

1220
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just come fresh. And it just seems like

1221
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: everywhere I go it was like Yo, what's that? Yo?

1222
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 4: How did you get that?

1223
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: What is that? And it's always my stuff? So it's

1224
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: like I get a chance to explain what it is.

1225
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: So when they today want to do something, who explain

1226
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: that story? How did that story goes?

1227
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 3: Well, we were just trying to figure out a collaboration.

1228
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: We didn't know if we were going to do like

1229
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: an in store event. They didn't know if they were

1230
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: going to carry my merch and you know what was

1231
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: crazy was that I tried to like shop it to

1232
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: them before and they were like, nah, you're not ready.

1233
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: And this is before I got the Italy connects and

1234
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And then I just you know, got

1235
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: something with vibrum souls. So a lot of these sneakers

1236
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: want to have vibrum souls on them, which is what

1237
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 3: a lot of the major people use. So my stuff

1238
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: that's in production right now, all I have Vibrum souls

1239
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: on it is going to be just like any of

1240
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 3: the other high end brands that's in NEMA markets. So

1241
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: we were just trying to figure out if they were

1242
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: going to actually purchase the merchandise and sell it. We

1243
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: were just going to do a you know, a day's

1244
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 3: event there, but it ended up going way past what

1245
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: I could have ever expected.

1246
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 4: And then the next thing, you.

1247
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: Know, I get hit up by a Banana Republic and

1248
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: then they want to do a joint venture. So I'm

1249
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 3: trying to do something with Banana Republic right now as well.

1250
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: So we have a lot of things going on business.

1251
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: So as you're getting more exposure, I'm assuming that the business,

1252
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 6: the sales are picking up. Were you prepared for that?

1253
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 6: Because a lot of times people go into business and

1254
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 6: we always talk about being prepared for success, right Like

1255
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 6: when you didn't have the website, it was like, damn,

1256
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 6: the moment's here, but I'm not ready. Yeah, were at

1257
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 6: that time as a business of scale and you're getting

1258
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 6: more exposure. Were you cemented and being ready for this moment?

1259
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't, because what my mistake was is I would

1260
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: get a nice sample, and I was so excited about

1261
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: the sample. I'm starting to post the samples. So now

1262
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: people are hitting me up like I want that, but

1263
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: I didn't have that. I only have this over here.

1264
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: So then when they go to the website and they

1265
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: don't see that, it's like, well, where's that?

1266
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: You know?

1267
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: So and then when I finally get the stuff, it's

1268
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: like months later. Because with sneakers, it's not like apparel.

1269
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: You can get your apparel back in two weeks. You know,

1270
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: sometimes within thirty days you can get your apparel back,

1271
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: But for sneakers, that six six months, nine months, sometimes

1272
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: a year to develop. So I'm thinking that I'm going

1273
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 3: to have this shoe ready for release in the spring

1274
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 3: and then it.

1275
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 4: Doesn't come into the fall.

1276
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: So now I got spring colors that's going in the wintertime,

1277
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize how picky people were. It's like, yo,

1278
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: I'm not wearing that this wintertime. I need a dark sneaker,

1279
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 3: but I have the light sneaker now, like I don't

1280
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: want that.

1281
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: I went the dark sneaker.

1282
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: So it took me a couple of years just to

1283
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: catch up with the seasons. You know, Like even when

1284
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 3: I was getting my hoodies and stuff, I would order

1285
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: the hoodies like a couple months before the wintertime, but

1286
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: I was so picky and particular about what I wanted,

1287
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: I didn't get the hoodies back.

1288
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: Until spring was coming, you know what I mean.

1289
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: So now when I'm trying to go to these stories

1290
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: and try to shot my stuff, They're like, look, we

1291
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 3: got t shirts and shorts out here like you behind.

1292
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: So it just took like a little as a matter

1293
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: of fact, I had to sacrifice the season to be

1294
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: able to get on point with the season.

1295
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 6: Know.

1296
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: So my only advice for people that's trying to get

1297
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: into the business, no matter what it is, do your research,

1298
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: because a lot of my fails happened because I didn't

1299
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: have the proper research. You know, when you're incarcerated, you

1300
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: can only get but so much information. And when I

1301
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: came home, I thought I knew everything, and I didn't

1302
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: know anything. So it's like, you know, I didn't know

1303
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 3: anything about finding our demograph because I'm thinking to myself,

1304
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: everyone's going.

1305
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: To wear these shoes.

1306
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: I didn't know I had to pick a demographic that

1307
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: we were going to start marketing to. I didn't know

1308
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: anything about you know, male or female stuff. Like I'm thinking,

1309
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: I'm going to make, you know, a line that caters

1310
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: to male in women, but it doesn't work that easily.

1311
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: Like it was so many different things that I had

1312
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: to learn that was like difficult for me, you know,

1313
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: in this particular process that is amazing.

1314
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 5: So you're in Nemen markets now October October how many

1315
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 5: stores We.

1316
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: Don't know yet.

1317
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: We'll we're still working things out at the moment. All

1318
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: the stuff that's going in NEMA markets is still in production,

1319
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 3: so we're still trying to like iron things out.

1320
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 5: And so you'll be the first black sneaker own sneaker

1321
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 5: company to be like, you.

1322
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: Know, of course there was all white and stuff like that,

1323
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 3: but I own my company. I'm not going through anyone

1324
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: else for distribution and stuff like that.

1325
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: We handle everything in the house.

1326
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: So what made you once again going back to this

1327
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 5: luxury brand because we see a lot of what quote

1328
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 5: unquote urban clothes this you know, you only see too

1329
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 5: many sneakers period, but you know, hoodies, t shirt things

1330
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 5: of that nature, and if it is some footwear, maybe

1331
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: maybe sneakers. Every once in a while you see a

1332
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 5: pair of sneakers. But like I said, these these they

1333
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: remind me of you know, those sneakers that are in

1334
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 5: like North from Nemhen Markets, Goodman brand, stuff like that.

1335
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 5: What made you want to go luxury higher in as

1336
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 5: opposed to streetwear?

1337
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: All right, A few reasons.

1338
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: The first one is because with the street where I

1339
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: started to notice that with our people, everything kind of

1340
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: is like a phase, you know what I mean. They

1341
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: usually jump on it and then they phase you right out.

1342
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to try to get past that. I didn't

1343
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: want to be like, you know, looking like like you're

1344
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: played out after you want from one summer and the

1345
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: next summer it's like.

1346
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: What are you doing? What are those I didn't want that.

1347
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: And then the second thing was, you know, again I

1348
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: started off as a rap artist, so for me, every

1349
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: time I hit that stage, I had to make sure

1350
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: that I had to fresh the stuff that I could

1351
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: possibly think of, and I would a high end type dude,

1352
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 3: So I wanted to make sneakers that I knew I

1353
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: would wear, you know what I mean. So it's like

1354
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna weary any cheap souffven When I used

1355
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: to buy Jordans and stuff back and the day, I

1356
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: would paint them so that way, when I go to

1357
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: wherever I'm going, it doesn't look like everyone else's stuff

1358
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: or I wasn't paying pay somebody to paint them, and

1359
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 3: you know, it was just, you know, I just like

1360
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: stuff that is different, And in certain ways it hurt

1361
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: me because I'm trying to develop things that are totally

1362
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: different than what people are used to seeing. And if

1363
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: people aren't used to seeing it, they'll say stuff like

1364
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: it looks really good on you.

1365
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: But I couldn't pull that off, you know what I mean.

1366
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: So I kind of hurt myself at the same time

1367
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 3: as me trying to create this, and you know, again,

1368
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: I just kind of feel like I'm more of a

1369
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: leader when it comes time for what I wear. I

1370
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: don't care if I see someone else wearing my stuff

1371
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: for or not my stuff, but a certain thing. If

1372
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: I like it, I'm buying it. So I created this

1373
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: brand for the people that are i'man leaders, not followers.

1374
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: So if everyone else wants to follow later, that's fine,

1375
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: but I made these for people that want to step

1376
00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: out and be different.

1377
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 5: It's very simplistic too, like I said, like I was

1378
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 5: actually looking for a pair of white sneakers, like that

1379
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 5: shoe sneakers, and that's the kind of shoes that I

1380
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 5: like where it's not too much going on, like you

1381
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like whether it's blue, gray, skyboo

1382
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 5: or whatever, and like these in line with that.

1383
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 3: So this is funny that you say that, because when

1384
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 3: I first started out, I felt like my name had

1385
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: to be on everything, and it was the people that

1386
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: I that I value their opinions on that wear high

1387
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: end stuff. It's like, bro, like no one's gonna be

1388
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 3: wearing all the way across the side, Like they're not

1389
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: going to do that. I just got to the habit

1390
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 3: of not even putting anything on it. I just left

1391
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: them blank and Appertiti's on the inside. Are you still

1392
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 3: designing shoes.

1393
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 6: I know you said a lot of these, these these

1394
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 6: models have come from when you in prison, you with

1395
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 6: throwing up the sketches. Are you still designing because I'm

1396
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 6: sure there's there's one shoe which is like your best seller,

1397
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 6: and then you have a few designs. Do you keep

1398
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 6: it simple, like maybe just five?

1399
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: Well, I designed still, and I hired a designer too,

1400
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: so you know, him and I collaborate back and forth.

1401
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: So I have I haven't nice little team, and you know,

1402
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: we all collaborate now instead of it just being me.

1403
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: But for the most part, we designed pretty much every

1404
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 3: every day. I feel like I'd rather have five thousand

1405
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 3: designs rather than us just designing something for that season.

1406
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 3: I remember in the very beginning, when I first started out,

1407
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: I would literally just have the sneakers that I needed

1408
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: for that release, but I wasn't prepared for the next season,

1409
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: you know. So now it's like I have stuff for

1410
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: summer twenty twenty four. Right now, it's just a matter

1411
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 3: of us getting to whatever it is. And I want

1412
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: to be able to like put all of our work together,

1413
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 3: But like which one.

1414
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 4: Is the best? You know? So is this better than this?

1415
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: Because this is twenty twenty four, and it's better than

1416
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. I'm going with this one to go

1417
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty three and then we'll develop something else

1418
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four. So that's pretty much how we

1419
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 3: do it.

1420
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 5: What is the price point for the sneakers.

1421
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: Well, when we first started with the manufacturers over there

1422
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: in Spain and Italy and all that, the price points

1423
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 3: was the cheapest that I had was three twenty five.

1424
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: And this again goes to the fact that I didn't

1425
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: know how to do certain business. And what happened was

1426
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: I have sneakers at a minimum of three twenty five

1427
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: foot locker calls.

1428
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: They're like, look, we're gonna go ahead and rock out

1429
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: with you.

1430
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: You could keep that price point, but all my people

1431
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: are like, there's no way you're going to sell three

1432
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: hundred twenty five dollars sneakers of foot locker.

1433
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: It's not gonna work.

1434
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 3: So I had to take a huge loss and put

1435
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: these three hundred dollars sneakers in foot locker for one

1436
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: seventy five, one seventy one ninety you know.

1437
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 4: So that's pretty much what I had to do.

1438
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: But now with Nema Marcus now I'm back up to

1439
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: like the five hundred dollars range, you know, because these

1440
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: are all stuff that I'm getting produced right now, so

1441
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 3: no one's really seen them. I did show you guys,

1442
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: like at least one or two baar of them, but

1443
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: like those prices are gonna go anywhere from between five

1444
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: hundred and seven hundred and seventy five and the seven

1445
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five dollars pair.

1446
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: We're doing something special with that.

1447
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: Where that very first order that I told you guys

1448
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: about that I couldn't sell the part of your thing another, well,

1449
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: I have the original sketch to that. So what we're

1450
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 3: gonna do is we wanna package the original sneaker that

1451
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 3: I made back in the day along with the original sketch,

1452
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna get the sneaker that's seven seventy five.

1453
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: So I'm putting all that in there as one package.

1454
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: So like I look at it, like look at like this.

1455
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: You guys love Jordan. So like let's say if you

1456
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: had a drop that had the very first sketch of

1457
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: that Jordan and the very first Jordan that never came out,

1458
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: whether the material was weak or not, it's a collector's item.

1459
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: So that's pretty much how I'm looking at mine. I

1460
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: just want to be able to make it so it's

1461
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: a collector's item.

1462
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, start from the top. I feel like, you know,

1463
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: there's always there's different there's different avenues with different people.

1464
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 5: And you know, when we talked about luxury brands, whether

1465
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 5: there's watches, whether there's cars, whether there's clothes whatever, like

1466
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 5: we always like discount black. Yeah, black is more like

1467
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 5: just affordable where that's cool, that's needed as well, But

1468
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 5: why can't they be black on the high end.

1469
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: Well, what I think happens, and we talk about this

1470
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: in the barbershop black when I go to get my

1471
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: cuts and all that. We have this discussion all the time,

1472
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: And I think what happens is when you think about Italy,

1473
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: everyone thinks quality.

1474
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 4: Because that's all they usually see from Italy. You don't

1475
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 4: never see a white person or any other race running

1476
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: around trying to sell stuff in the street. That's number two.

1477
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 4: Number three.

1478
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: Most of the time when you get something in the

1479
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: barbershop in the street is mostly bootleg, you know what

1480
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: I mean. So our own people are used to that.

1481
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 3: So whenever someone comes up and tries to sell you

1482
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: something out the trunk in her car, you automatically think

1483
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: it's either stolen or it's cheap. So we kind of

1484
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: put ourselves in that situation. And that's again the reason

1485
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: why I'm always amazed when people come up to me

1486
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: at trade shows and they're like, so you own this?

1487
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: Do you work there or do you own this?

1488
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: But it's also propagaind the media too. Could imagine you

1489
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 5: shot the nineteen keys. He had posted something like about media,

1490
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, even what we do with finances,

1491
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 5: all of report to like Black network is going to

1492
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 5: be zero in twenty thirty, and it's like black unemployment

1493
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 5: is two times more and black. So it's like, when

1494
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 5: you constantly hear those narratives, whether it's true or not,

1495
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 5: you develop an opinion that black people are broke, Black

1496
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 5: people don't have any money, black people make poor decisions.

1497
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 5: Whereas if it was the reverse, imagine if all the

1498
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: reports are like black network is on the rise, black

1499
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 5: home ownership is on the rise, Black crime is down.

1500
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 5: Once again, whether it's true or not, you automatically start

1501
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 5: to formulate positive opinions, and you'll start to change the

1502
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 5: way you even behave right. So it's like even these

1503
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 5: countries where it's like you take a country like Italy

1504
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 5: or Paris and it's like these countries, then everybody's not wealthy.

1505
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: There's a lot of poor people in these countries. There's

1506
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 5: a lot of infrastructure problems in these countries. These countries

1507
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 5: have a lot of issues, immigration issues and everything. But

1508
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 5: the image that's been portrayed to the world is only

1509
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 5: luxury beauty. So that's what we Where we take countries

1510
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 5: like Africa, Africa, whether it's Ghana, Nigeria, southab whatever, the

1511
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 5: image that's been portrayed to the world is poverty and

1512
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 5: war and different things. That nature starting to change now

1513
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 5: with music, aprobeats and stuff like that, but for a

1514
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 5: long time, that's the image. And when you take our

1515
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: situation in America, the image that's been portrayed is boys

1516
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 5: in the hood and paid in full. And you know

1517
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, it's drug dealers, it's gangs. So that

1518
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 5: image has not only been portrayed to us, it's been

1519
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 5: exported all across the world. So imagine if it was different.

1520
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 5: Imagine if like black excellence, if we really like push

1521
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 5: that black excellence and show people and you know, suits

1522
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 5: and you know, it's just a whole vibe, right, so

1523
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: now you start to actually start thinking that you're worth more.

1524
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because there's like a lot

1525
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 5: of times like it goes back to your self worth.

1526
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 5: If you don't think you're worth anything, then somebody who

1527
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 5: looks just like you, you're not gonna think that they're

1528
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 5: worth anything. But somebody looks completely oph you automatically put

1529
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 5: them on such a high value and it's like they're

1530
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 5: they're worth way more. Why because they're white?

1531
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 4: It's crazy that you say that.

1532
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: I went to a high school because I was given

1533
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 3: a lecture out of high school and I had my

1534
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: assistant with me and she's white. And after I got

1535
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: them given a lecture, I was like, yeah, you know,

1536
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: you guys, can you know, reach out to me through

1537
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,959
Speaker 3: DMS or whatever and I'll try to help you guys

1538
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: get your your plans in order to be able to

1539
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: try to you know, create a business or whatever you

1540
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: want to do. And once we got done that lecture

1541
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: and I said that, they immediately all ran over to

1542
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: her and she's like, why are you coming to me?

1543
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm I have worked for him, and they was like, no,

1544
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: you don't you. You got to connect, right, and they

1545
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 3: just couldn't believe that it was me that had to connect,

1546
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: you know. So it was like, it's amazing that you

1547
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 3: say that, because that's pretty much how it is too.

1548
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 6: So you're in emn markets, I'm wondering if there's going

1549
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 6: to be scaling to other luxury good stores sacks with

1550
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 6: the avenue blooming deals.

1551
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: Well, that's the plan.

1552
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 6: That's the plan.

1553
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 4: That's the plan.

1554
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: And in terms of that, right, So this is happening

1555
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 6: during COVID, so everybody supply chains has been affected, everybody's inventory.

1556
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 6: So what was that process for you? Obviously growing at

1557
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 6: a time where there's going to be delays and shipments

1558
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: and inventory can be rattled by all these types of things,

1559
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 6: how did you manage.

1560
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 4: Well the way that I did it.

1561
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: Fortunately for me, I got lucky in this process because

1562
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 3: I already had the merchandise. When they decided to do

1563
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 3: deals with me, my foot locker came, I already had

1564
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: the merchandise, so all I had to do was just

1565
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: sell it to them. When it came time for the

1566
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: Nima Marcus thing, it was a little bit different because

1567
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: I don't have the merchandise and once they said that

1568
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: they wanted to do it. I had to like rush

1569
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: and try to hurry up and get this stuff done.

1570
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: And that's the difference. So now I'm hoping That's the

1571
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: reason I don't have an exact date yet. We're thinking

1572
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: October because I'm assuming that I'm going to get everything

1573
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: back by September, but if for some reason things.

1574
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: Get held up, that may get pushed back.

1575
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of, you know, giving that information prematurely,

1576
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: but I'm so excited about it, and I had to

1577
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 3: share it with you guys. You guys, Yeah, you guys

1578
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: are the first guys that even know about this. So

1579
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: and if you guys are around in October, come through

1580
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: Philly man and come out, that'd be Yeah, that'd be

1581
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: a huge thing.

1582
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, sure.

1583
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 5: Before we leave, can you just quickly tell a story

1584
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 5: about Bernard Hopkins, another Philly legend.

1585
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1586
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: I ended up meeting Bernard because the customer came into

1587
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: the barbershops that I was working at the time, and

1588
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: I had these boxing sneakers on. They were my box

1589
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: and sneakers I created, and the customers like yo, I

1590
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: got a meeting with be hop tomorrow for me to

1591
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: call him and see.

1592
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 4: You know, if it's cool for me to bring you,

1593
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 4: you can show them your sneaks.

1594
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, like hook that up. So the next

1595
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: day we go and Bernard said it was cool. The

1596
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: next day we go in and I was only supposed

1597
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: to get the last five minutes of the meeting. So

1598
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: when I get into the meeting, immediately he's like, where's

1599
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: the sneaker guy.

1600
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 4: Tell him to come in.

1601
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: We're at this restaurant. So he's like, yeah, I went

1602
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 3: the sneaker guy. And I'm like, yoh, you said the

1603
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 3: last five minutes. I went the first five minutes. He's like, Yo,

1604
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 3: come on, man, if you want, if you want to

1605
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 3: talk to me, come on. So I came in with

1606
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: my bag. I pulled the sneakers out and put them

1607
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 3: all on the table and he was looking like and

1608
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: and now that I know him, I know how sarcastic

1609
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: he is. I know what he was thinking when he's

1610
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: seen it. And again, this was my first sneaker thing

1611
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: with the poly your thing, leather and all that. So

1612
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 3: he's looking he's like Gabby, Gabby, and Gabby's owner of

1613
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: the restaurant, and he was like, when I wear something

1614
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: like this, and Gabby was like, nah, so b hop

1615
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: try to play it off like I'm too old for this.

1616
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 4: I would never wear anything like that. I'm too old.

1617
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, man, I just asked you

1618
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: one question before I walk away. And he was like,

1619
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 3: what's up now? This time it was only about forty

1620
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: five seconds into my three minutes or five minutes whatever

1621
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: it was, and he was like, what's up? I was like,

1622
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 3: how did you get from being incarcerated getting off parole

1623
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: and then becoming the guy who.

1624
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: You are today?

1625
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: And then you know, he just kind of looked at

1626
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: me like how did I know that he was even incarcerated?

1627
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: And he was like, what made you ask me that?

1628
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I asked you because I

1629
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: was at greater for it and I saw your mirror

1630
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: on the wall.

1631
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: And right now I'm on parole and I'm just.

1632
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out how can what type of steps

1633
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: did I need to do to get off of parole

1634
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 3: to be able to get my business going because I

1635
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: created all this stuff while I was in prison. And

1636
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: he was like, you did what you created all this

1637
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: while you was in prison? I said, I didn't make

1638
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: them while I was in prison but I created the

1639
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 3: business while I was in prison. And he was just like, yo,

1640
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: I'm not doing the other meeting. Come on, let's go

1641
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 3: to the gym. So we ended up going over to

1642
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: the gym and he was like, listen, whatever T shirt

1643
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: you have, give them to me.

1644
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 4: Whatever sneakers you have, give them to me.

1645
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: And he got in the ring and started dancing around

1646
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 3: with the box of sneakers, started to give me a

1647
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: little promotional video. He took pictures in the clothes and

1648
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: he was like, listen, man. He was like, you re

1649
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: mimmy and my little brother. He was like, the way

1650
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: that your hustle is, the way that you speak to me,

1651
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: the way everything is your mimmy and my little brother

1652
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: and or no, I don't know if he said a

1653
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: little brother, but he said his brother. And after that

1654
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: he was just like yo, like you know, if you

1655
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: want to know the information, I'm here for you. So

1656
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 3: the next day he calls me at like four am,

1657
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, He's like, yo, wake up, get

1658
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: the sheets out your ass. You're trying to be successful.

1659
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: You need to get your mind right right now too.

1660
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 3: You laying in the bed.

1661
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 4: So I woke up.

1662
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: I woke up, got dressed, went and met up with him,

1663
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: and he ended up taking me to Nema Marcus.

1664
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 4: He took me to Sacks. With that, he took me

1665
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 4: to Boyds, he took me to all these.

1666
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: Different high end stores and he was personally picking the

1667
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 3: sneakers up and was like, listen, if you want to

1668
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: be successful in this business and you want people like

1669
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: me to wear this, you gotta.

1670
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 4: Get your stuff on this level.

1671
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 3: And at that particular moment, I didn't know how to

1672
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 3: get to that level. I was just like, all right, cool,

1673
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: and I started asking the manufacturers that I was using

1674
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 3: if they had this, you know, type of material, because

1675
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: I would literally go to Neiman Marcus or I would

1676
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 3: go to SaaS fidth Av and I would pick the

1677
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 3: sneakers up. I would google search what the sneakers are,

1678
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 3: what they were made of, and all that, and then

1679
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: I would hit my manufacturers up and be like, yo,

1680
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: do you have this? Can you make my sneakers out

1681
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: of that? And then when I realized that they couldn't,

1682
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I can't deal with these factories.

1683
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 4: I gotta find something else.

1684
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: And then, you know, it's a very long story that

1685
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into on how I got

1686
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 3: to the next level of manufacturers. But my man Rob Pervey,

1687
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: which is the guy that you met Rob Hervey. He's

1688
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 3: like a sneaker guy who he helped develop the you know,

1689
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 3: the Kobe's, the first Kobe's. He helped develop Alan Iverson's shoe.

1690
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 3: He worked with Reebok, he worked with Adidas, he worked

1691
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 3: with and one dude's a major dude there. And I

1692
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: ended up meeting him at a sneaker factory and him

1693
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: and I just bumped heads connected at that particular moment,

1694
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: and he's been taking me for a ride. So he's

1695
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: the one that introduced me to all these different factories.

1696
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 3: And he's the one that taught me that there are

1697
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 3: good factories in China, you just have to know where

1698
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,879
Speaker 3: they are. So you know, I've used some some factories

1699
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: from China. But then he connected me with Portugal and

1700
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: then that's when I went to the trade show in

1701
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 3: Vegas and I found the other ones, and then you know,

1702
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: he's working with me right now to this day. As

1703
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, he's the one that told you

1704
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: who I was that day in La So yeah, it's

1705
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: my guy.

1706
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 4: So again it's it's a.

1707
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 3: Lot of stuff that goes on in this business is

1708
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 3: not as easy as just you know, picking it up

1709
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 3: and just saying you want to do it.

1710
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 4: It's a lot of work that goes into this.

1711
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 5: So so how can they how can they buy the sneakers,

1712
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 5: the shoes, the merch what's the website, social media and

1713
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 5: all that.

1714
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: The website is bungeebrand dot com b U n g

1715
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: E E b r A n D. And our Instagram

1716
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: page is Bungee Brand, you know what I mean. And

1717
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 3: then uh, our personal Facebook page. I have a personal

1718
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 3: Facebook page called Bungie Raiment. It's I b U n

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 3: G E E r A I M E n C.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we do, like all the behind the

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 3: scenes stuff. I don't put all that like on our

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01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 3: Instagram business page, and I put that on our personal

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: Facebook page so people can see what we're doing behind

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01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 3: the scenes and how we're creating stuff and the process

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01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 3: of everything that Doe Dope.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely support the brother, But more so I feel

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01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 5: like the word Charlotte Dery Falcon, the word support is

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 5: a little misleading because it's almost like you're doing somebody

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01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 5: a favor by supporting them. If you if you like

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 5: the quality, which is high level of quality. You never

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01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 5: have to support balinc Yaga, you never. You never people

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01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 5: say I'm supporting Gucci. You like the product, you buy it.

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 5: You don't. You don't negotiate prices, you don't say it

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 5: costs too much. I've never seen it, seen it. I've

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 5: never seen anybody in the product store trying to haggle.

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 4: I was with you in the barber sho you don't remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 5: Respect, respect the luxury, respect the entrepreneur, Respect the entrepreneur

1739
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 5: for sure. Choy Housekey Idols.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to everybody on patreon dot com. Shout out

1741
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 6: to all our earners on E y L University, the

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 6: number one place for everything in the world of business

1743
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 6: and entrepreneurs. Uh that are just making a killing man.

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01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 6: Shout to everybody that's spreading the word, telling a friend

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 6: to tell a friend, and executing on information. Love is love.

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 6: We greatly appreciate you, and shout everybody to support the mercery.

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01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 6: I know we talked about footwear. Else got a vision

1748
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 6: for us, so uh shout everybody disappointing our mercer. I

1749
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 6: love his love. Keep grinding, y'all.

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01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: Thank you, guys for rocking us to see you next week. Peace.

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01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 4: Peace, Peace. You guys had.

1752
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: My graduates from my school being forced back drop b drop,

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: Mike drop back drop drop.

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

1755
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

1756
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

1758
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States

1760
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported, you will

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home

1766
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,

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01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 1: border and families

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 4: Will be protected sponsor by the United States Department of

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Speaker 4: Homeland Security.