1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: We're here. This is actually the last show for a 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: minute for mister Pizinski, not for Repti, but for mister Prizinski. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: And it's a good reminder to give the show schedule 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: for next week. But we will see you after today 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: on November No me December one, November December one. Wow, 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: that feels weird to say December first. Yeah, it's good 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: reminder though to everyone. I mean, we're still running the 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: rest of the week. Next week, we'll do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: No live show on Thanksgiving, no live show on Friday. 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: You know how we like to clip up segments show 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: off some of the other FT Network shows, So we'll 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: do stuff like that, but you won't see us live 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: for those two days, and stay tuned for some Winter Meetings. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: News people ask us about the last couple of years. 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give everything away yet, but I 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: think very promising that we will have some fun during 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: the Winter Meetings in person. Do you know where they 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: are this year? I do in Orlando, Ah, in Orlando, 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: our backyard. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: They are. They're right, they're a Disney well not in Disney, 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: but they're by Disney. 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Will you hang at the bar to say hi? To everyone. 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna probably end up over there a lot. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: I just nobody does that anymore. Though. Nobody goes to 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: the bar and just sits around. 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I remember agree the writers and media and proc. 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: But none, none of the people from the teams do. 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: The jibs are in the Sweet Slash Bunkers the entire time. 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: You're lucky if you see them. 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Also if they come out, what happens? Have you seen 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: this before years back? 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: But they also get attacked by not the media, but 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: the people looking for jobs. That's I mean, they get problem. 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I had never been until I don't know, 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how many years ago. They've been in 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: Orlando a few times, and I've been a couple of times, 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: and I never realized how many people just sit there 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: wait for and just yes, and they just and if 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: they see you, like they see me and recognize me 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, can you introduce me to who what? 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm like? No, like, no, I can't, No. 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I can't. There are tons of aspiring workers in the 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: industry who attend there's a job fair. There's a lot 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: on the minor league side that happens, which is important. 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: So if you're trying to crack baseball, usually the minor 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: leagues is the best way to go. Yes, they do 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: have opportunities there where minor league gms or whatever the 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: in front offices they're calling them. They will meet with 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: students and recent grads. 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: People forget the minor leagues are at the Winter meetings too. 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: People think it's just the big leagues, But the minor 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: leagues have their own like wing basically, or they do 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: their own thing right, and then they chill products off, 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: and then they do the home then they do the 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: big league side, which what everyone kind of talks about. 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: But this is not just for Major League Baseball. It's 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: kind of for all of baseball. The one thing I 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: had professional baseball, I should right all pro baseball crats. 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: I would tell this to kids when I came across 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: them when I was there. I'm like, I'll talk to you, 61 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: I'll do whatever, I kind of help you. But you're 62 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: talking to the wrong people. I'm like, you're in the 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: wrong area. You're talking to the broadcasters. Right when I 64 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: was at MLB at the time, I'm like, you're talking 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: to broadcasters. I'm like, you're trying to work in a 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: front office. We got almost nothing for you here. I'm like, 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: minor league sections over there, go work for a team, 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: dominate over there, you'll be in an affiliated you know, 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: pro program, and then you can work your way up. 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, if you want to work in TV, talk 71 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: to us. If you don't, don't talk to us, don't 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: waste your time. 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how many people are. I went to 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: the end of the winter meetings one time when it 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: was in Nashville. I flew in. I helped a guy 76 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: pedal one of his products to the trainers because it 77 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: was a new like medical product thing, and then I 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: flew back out and all the people were leaving that 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: day because the trainers come at the end and then 80 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: they have their own little bats reunion stuff and everything, 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: and there were so many people. I forget Grand old Opry. 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: I think it is where I flew into where they 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: had it. It was so many people. I can't imagine. 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: When it's like everybody crazy. 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy. And yeah, it does get very busy around 86 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: the lobby. Anyway, we'll talk more about it as it 87 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: gets closer, but by the time AJ's back, it will 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: be a week away from that time. Period. 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: And also there's there's it's a crazy time here in 90 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Orlando because there's two celebrity golf tournaments and the Winter 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: Meetings at the same time, and it's a pretty part 92 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: and they're all pretty close to each other. 93 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes, pretty popular time for people to come down to 94 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: Orlando in general. 95 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: Well not really because of our school. 96 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Well for kids right not at the parks, but it's warm. 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes people adult wise will come down. 98 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the parks. That's like the least between Thanksgiving 99 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: and Christmas. That like three week time is kind of 100 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 2: a weird time because everyone's either getting back from Thanksgiving 101 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: and the of those three weeks until Christmas hits, or 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: they're waiting for Christmas to come down. Because now, if 103 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: you go to Disney in those parks, Sea World and 104 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Universal and all that between about a week before Christmas 105 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 2: till New Year's good, look, you better better hire yourself 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: a guide. 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Wait till the hot time right after Thanksgiving is when 108 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: I should consider going. 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: Yes, usually because that's when quiet attendance is down. Okay, 110 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: take I mean you still you know, if you're going 111 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: to Disney, you're still looking at I think one hundred 112 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: and eighty dollars a ticket, I just for one day, 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: but I. 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Just don't want the line situation. So I'm just whenever 115 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: you can go where there are less children. And I'm 116 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: not talking about Disney, more universal for me. 117 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: I haven't been so I haven't been to the Epic. 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 2: I gotta get to Epic. 119 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, there was this trade that was super interesting 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: last night. Let's charge them out, charge them out. I 121 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: see Taylor Ward moved over from the Angels to the Orioles. Okay, 122 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: Orioles looking for more power in the outfields. They get 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: a guy who will be there for a rental one season. 124 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: And then I see who goes back on the other end, 125 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Grayson Rodriguez going back to the Angels. So this is 126 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: a big leaguer for big league or deal. I was 127 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: shocked that they essentially gave up on Grayson Rodriguez, who 128 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: has top end stuff when he's healthy. You didn't pitch 129 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: this past season. What do you think of this deal? 130 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't understand it from the Orioles side of it, 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: I don't you're getting a one. You're giving up a 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: guy who has four years of control. And Grayson, now 133 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: he's been hurt, he missed all the year but when 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: he's healthy, he could be a two to three starter 135 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: for you. And what did the Orioles not have last 136 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: year starting pitching? So why would you give up on 137 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: a guy who you developed? You got it all the 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: way through. And yes, I know he's hurt, but they 139 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: know the medicals better than anybody. They should know that 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: if he's healthy or not. So they trade him for 141 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: Taylor Ward in an already crowded outfield they have, I mean, 142 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: because they don't stuff forget, they have O'Neill, right, and 143 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: then Kobe Mayo wherever he figures out to play. You 144 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: got her Stead, You got a lot of guys Mountcastle, 145 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: whatever they're gonna do with him, I mean, there's a 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: lot of guys Westburg, wherever he ends up. I mean, 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys for a lot of spots, 148 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: and Tyler and O'Neill's got to be one of your 149 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, Taylor Ward's got to be one of 150 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: your guys that plays all the time. Then you probably 151 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: lose DH to Basayo our first base when Adley and 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: him are gonna go back and forth catching DH first basey. 153 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: So he just got crowded really fast. But the Orioles 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: need pitching, Like I'd be like, this guy's on a 155 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: minimum contract and the things the upside is too good. 156 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not costing you much right now. Kratz. Sure, 157 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: Taylor Ward nice player. I would say, top five streakiest 158 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: players in the big league. So when he's hot, he's 159 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: sizzling hot. To me, it's almost like Justin Upton status, 160 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: like a diet version of that back when he played. 161 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: He'd get all his numbers in like a month or 162 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: two's time. Because Taylor Ward can blow up in April 163 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: and then fall apart in May and June, so there 164 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: will be some ups and down set that's part of 165 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: his game. That's fine. I just am looking at Baltimore like, 166 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: can we get rid of a a ball prospect for 167 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: a move like this? I think you need ten twelve 168 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: pitchers as part of your forty man that you feel 169 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: comfortable starting games for you. And Grayson Rodriguez has the 170 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: one two three upside potential. They must have looked at 171 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: the medicals and the Baltimore Orioles team. Doctors have been 172 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: known to flunk free agents and said, ah, we should 173 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: quit on him. Here's the problem. Kratz they're often wrong. 174 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's the other problem. You can you can 175 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: say I'm a little scared about free agents. I'm a 176 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: little scared about you know, a thirty year old guy 177 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: signing him to a four year, five year contract. They 178 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: just flunked Jeff Hoffman. This is not that. This is 179 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: a guy who, yeah, he hasn't pitched in a year, 180 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: I mean since August of twenty three, No, August of 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: twenty four, Like you missed a over a year of time. 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: I get that. But this isn't a free agent. This 183 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: is a young pitcher who, let's say even has another 184 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: year of injuries. You would never want that, and you're 185 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: like you would you wouldn't think a guy would continually 186 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: get hurt, but it happens. He's a one year arbitration 187 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: every year for the next four years, and you still 188 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: have that. This isn't This isn't like failing a free agent. 189 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: So if they use the same idea, I think I 190 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: think this is a miss. I think this is a 191 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: miss because you can't get this is great for the Angels, 192 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: but you can't give up young starting pitching that has potential, 193 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: give up some of your minor league. 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. 195 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: Rogers did an amazing job. You know, Tyler Wells came 196 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: back and was awesome. Bradish was awesome. Like, it's okay 197 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: to have extra, It's okay to have six to seven 198 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: starters that are gonna be in your in your in 199 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: your rotation for the season because they're not all going 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: to stay healthy. 201 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Holiday shopping season is here and we have you covered 202 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: from head to toe. 203 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: Let's take to talk about an area that's not quite 204 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: close to the toes. Let's get crazy with this holiday season. Yeah, 205 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: that's me Undies. 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I mean, it's it's not the fact. 222 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Like, look, if you want to trade Grayson Rodriguez and 223 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: you feel like you may maybe he might not pitch again, 224 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: he might never stay healthy, but you would think you'd 225 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: want to get something controllable back. But Taylor Ward's got 226 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: one year and then he's a free agent. This is 227 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Corvin Burns all over again. Right. But again, the Oriols 228 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: are supposed to have all these prospects position player wise, 229 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: So why are they trading one of their areas of 230 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: need a pitcher, especially a starting pitcher, for a guy 231 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: that when they're supposed to have all these surefire prospects 232 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: that they wouldn't trade for years. 233 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: The development process to me, has been strange krats At times, 234 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: there's not an opening for some of those players that 235 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: have been highly touted, and then they often have them 236 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: playing a billion different positions in the minor leagues, which 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: was part of what Jason Lackepora mentioned the other day 238 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: on the Orioles to Do list segment that we did, 239 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: and there were mixed reviews on that segment, but I 240 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: will say Jason was pretty spot on with just about 241 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: everything he said regarding the Orioles this year. Are we 242 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: hard on them? 243 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 244 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Why because they tanked for half a decade and then 245 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: didn't get enough out of it. So I think you 246 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: should be hard on your ball club if you went 247 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: through that kind of pain. One funny comment after the 248 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: tweet was posted last night about the trade from a 249 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: fan said, anytime you're a team in need of a 250 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: controllable young starter, you move one of the few you 251 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: have to acquire a sixteenth thoutfielder. That's a little harsh, 252 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: but here's thirty. You gotta make that deal. 253 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: But here's here's the here's their here's their outfielders. Dylan 254 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: Beavers first round pick for him, high prospect, Colton Kowser, 255 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: who we've talked about for years, Tyler O'Neill who they 256 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: signed to a big deal, Leoti Taveres okay backup, and 257 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: then Jeremiah Jackson wherever he is. Yeah, which one of 258 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: those guys? The center fielder Colton Cawser, I guess gonna 259 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: play center for you? 260 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: Marique Bradfield when he comes up at some point. 261 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: Okay, so then why do you trade for for Taylor Ward? 262 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Explain to playing the corner you atoon, but to. 263 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: With who platoon. You're not trading for Taylor Ward if 264 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: he's platooning. I'm sorry. 265 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: I think there's a world where a lot of his 266 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: AB's are coming against left handed pitching. 267 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: No, okay, there's not that. I mean, no offense, there's 268 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: not that many. That's fours. 269 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean his numbers were not great against righty and. 270 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: You're gonna pay thirteen point seven million, which he's projected 271 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: in arbitration flor a platoon guy. Then this trade just 272 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: got even worse. 273 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Let me explain what Michael Liyas likes to do. He 274 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: wants to build more of what you saw from far 275 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Anxiety in the Dodgers world ten years ago. It's platoons, 276 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: it's everyone can play just about everywhere network out not well, 277 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm just explaining what they're doing. I don't I don't 278 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: agree with what they've been doing. Last year. I destroyed 279 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: their moves, destroyed them, took a lot of crap for it. 280 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: They spent money. This has nothing to do with money 281 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: spending right now, let's shove that aside. Should they be 282 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: going after premieer guys, did you think that was going 283 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: to happen? Yes, but that's not realistic right now? Right 284 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: this kind of move, krat tells you they're not in 285 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: their running for Kyle Tucker. But with what they are doing, 286 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: I disagree. I just disagree. They think they got to 287 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: hear right, you did the tank, the rebuild, You got 288 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: good talent. Putting that last part together is the most 289 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: difficult thing to do in baseball, and it's what makes 290 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: someone like Dave Dombrowski so successful and put his titles together, right, 291 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: Alex Anthopolis and others who go for it and know 292 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: how to put the finishing touches on. I think they're 293 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: lacking there. 294 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: We're I mean, we can talk about Michael Lias's moves 295 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: last year in the outfield this year. We can talk 296 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: about that all offseason. Today's the trade. So what are 297 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: they getting from Taylor Ward? You cannot platoon if you 298 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: are platooning him. What AJ said, thirteen point seven million 299 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: is what he's projected to make. An arbitration, like you're 300 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: not paying any You're not even paying the most elite 301 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: platoon advantage guy that money. I mean, he had five 302 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine at bats last year. He was 303 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: an everyday player, thirty six homers, one hundred and four stakes. 304 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: You are, that's all you're getting because the defense is 305 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: not great, the base running is well below average, and 306 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: you can't, like you need to get full value from this. 307 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: And I don't think this is where there's value for 308 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: this team unless they're sitting there going, I know, we 309 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: gave Tyler O'Neil forty nine million, forty nine and a 310 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: half million dollars. We need to make sure we have 311 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: somebody in case he goes down when he's you know, 312 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: when he takes his time off. Like I don't understand. 313 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: I don't understand this at all. But you cannot play 314 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: him at a three point fifty to four hundred that 315 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: back clip, because then you lose everything. You lose his 316 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: counting stats, his home runs and RBIs is what he's 317 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: going to bring to this team. 318 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's not enough lefties. If you're just gonna 319 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: platoona that's that's that's an awful thing. But I just 320 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: because I don't normally look at I mean I do 321 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: look at rosters and we talk about. But so I 322 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: looked at the Orioles depth chart. You know, their roster 323 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: basically for their starting guys. Have you guys ever seen 324 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: Samuel Basaillo in person? Yester? No, okay, you know what 325 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: he's listed as on their on their roster. I know 326 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: they don't say outfielder. No, no, no. He's listed as catcher 327 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: behind athlete and DH behind Mountcastle. But do you know 328 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: I'm talking about his weight? You know what his height 329 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: and weight is listed at. 330 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: I know he's like six'. Five what what do they, have. 331 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: Mane he hasn't seen what eighty in a long. Time i'm. 332 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: Sorry that's like them Saying Salve perez is one eighty, 333 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Right LIKE i, MEAN i weigh way more than one, eighty. 334 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: Right And i've stood next To basayo and he is 335 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: bigger THAN i. Am he is. Fooled he is Salvad. 336 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: Operez the one TIME i saw, him the one TIME 337 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: i saw, him He's Salvado. Press Now Salvi's salvi's much. 338 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Bigger now he's lifted a lot more, legs and But 339 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: salvi's SAL i was gonna, say there's no Way basio's 340 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: under two fifty and there's no way he's less than, 341 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: me monstrous young. 342 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Man, okay so one more thing in The oils THAN 343 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: i want to finish with The. Angels now on The baltimore, 344 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: SIDE i, mean the lineup's pretty much. Set they're not 345 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: trading most of these. Guys they're young under team, control, 346 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: Right jacksonaaldy at, Second Jordan westberg at, Third gunner at. 347 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: Short you would Think mayo at. First, outfield we went 348 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: over plenty, Already adlee a, catcher And pasio mixing in there. 349 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: TOO i, mean the lineup's pretty much. 350 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: Set but that's why the Tailor ward doesn't make. Sense, 351 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: YEAH i want they had to give up because BECAUSE 352 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: i look at it like this, again who's gonna play center? 353 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Field Leotis taveras are they, signed so they're not gonna 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: go out and get someone. Else can you Run Colton 355 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: cowser out? There no for center field every? Day so 356 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: then he's got to go to a, corner, right and 357 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: then that takes it bats away from somebody else because 358 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: you have O'Neill who's signed to a long term, deal 359 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: and now you Have Taylor ward who's got to play, 360 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: right and then you gotta Put cowser, somewhere and you 361 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: gotta Have pasio. Somewhere you gotta Have mountcastle. Somewhere so 362 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: there's got to be something else coming down the, pipe 363 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: you would. Think so there's got to be a trade 364 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: coming somewhere down the down that we haven't heard about. 365 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: Yet that's coming That michael ISAs is gonna have to 366 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: clear clear up some. Space but you want to talk 367 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: about The. Angels this is absolutely. Wonderful if you're The, 368 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: angels you get a controllable starting pitcher who has a 369 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: huge upside for league minimum for four, years and you 370 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: clear thirteen point seven off your books off a Guy 371 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: kinnor M kratz said that can he can, hit but 372 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: everything else is not. Great he's a good, player but 373 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: he's not you, know he's not a great. Player where you're, 374 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: like this is a franchise changing. 375 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Guy, no he was gone after this year anything, so but. 376 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: You get a guy you can control for four years. 377 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: Control this is a great deal for The. 378 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: Angels they've been looking for guys like, this. 379 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: They've been looking for people to take deals like, this 380 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: and The orioles are, like pick. 381 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: Us, YEAH i love, It, KRATS i love the. Risk 382 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: is there a chance That grayson just can't get his 383 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: arm figured out long. Term sure there's a, chance but 384 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: how often have we seen it where a guy goes 385 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: through some injury issues early in his. Career grayson's twenty, 386 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: six and then he takes off the? Stuff is there with? 387 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: Upside in my? Mind, right we haven't seen all of 388 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: the potential tapped. In let's not Forget i'll use an. 389 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: Example Trek skool went through quite a few injuries early 390 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: in his. Career tell Me, jones he didn't blossom in five. 391 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Minutes just throwing that out, there not saying they're the same, 392 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: picture But i'm saying there's significant upside. Here AND i 393 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: thought it was a steal of a deal to take 394 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: on a lottery ticket like that THAT i think has 395 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: a good chance of becoming something. 396 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: SPECIAL i want to know other teams that were, like, 397 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: wait why couldn't we have gotten in? There like like 398 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: the thing about The phillies going up north if they 399 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: want an. Outfielder Nick costiani's, like, hey we'll pay down 400 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: everything to thirteen point. Seven you're gonna Have Nick costianis 401 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 3: For Grayson. Rodriguez, LIKE i don't see any team that 402 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: says MAN i don't want a controllable starter for four 403 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: years with some. Risk every picture has. Risk at two 404 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: years of, service two years into your big league, career 405 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: everybody has. Risk you have no idea who's gonna stay 406 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: healthy and who's not unless there's something catastrophically wrong in. 407 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: THERE i have a hard time believing this doesn't work 408 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: out really well for The. 409 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: Angels i'm with, you and we're gonna talk To Grayson 410 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: rodriguez On Friday. 411 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: FRIDAY i believe it is possibly if The powers getting. 412 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: A live update on when he might join. Us, okay 413 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Maybe friday For Grayson rodriguez to talk about this. 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Things kasar is 449 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: going to be, moved along With, malcastle who might be 450 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: non tendered by the way On. Friday maybe thinks That 451 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: mayo gets. Moved that's a lot of. MOVES i don't 452 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: think all of those guys get. Moved maybe one of. 453 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: Them you have some thinking that The oils know more 454 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: About grace And i'm, like, yes and no medicals get shared. 455 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: Again baltimore is very strict on that. Part, Maybe and, 456 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: yes he hasn't had full On Tommy john surgery. YET 457 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: i understand that. 458 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: Even if he misses next, year even if he misses 459 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: this season because he Gets Tommy john, surgery you still have. 460 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: Him he's still controllable after. 461 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: That And. 462 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: Arty, moreno never wants to get four years into a 463 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: into a free agent. Pitcher SO. C. J wilson killed 464 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: him for that. 465 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: One SO i DON'T i don't get. 466 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: It, Yeah So i'm mentioning maybe they would Give ward 467 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: a qualifying offer that's really looking ahead and take. It, yeah, 468 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: yeah take. It you're about to get into. That but 469 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: you can't just hand those out like you used. To 470 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: players are fighting. 471 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: Back it's twenty two. Million it's almost twice of what he's. Making. 472 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: Now this is a, perfect perfect topic here shaking it 473 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: up the player's, side the agency side, saying, OH i 474 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: see you qualifying. OFFER i understand the point of the qualifying, 475 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: offer AND i am going to accept. It we saw 476 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: four acceptances nine no's pretty obvious nose skuys Like Kyle. 477 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Tucker But Brandon Woodriff Showta, Inmanaga Trent, grisham And glaber 478 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Torres all said yes to a one year contract for 479 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: about twenty two million. Dollars so they are locked in and. 480 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Signed they won't have those qualifying offers attached to them 481 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: after this. Season and in the past there have been 482 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four qualifying offers extended depending free, 483 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: agents only fourteen. Acceptances so this was a. Lot AND 484 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: i want to start the conversation by saying That i've 485 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: spoken a multiple agent and they think it absolutely destroys 486 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: mid level free agents like this in free. Agency so 487 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: that is why you're getting more of these yes is, 488 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: quote bite the bullet for twenty two million. DOLLARS i 489 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: think most people will take, that and then you can 490 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: have a proven year and then not have that attached 491 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: to you because it really burns free. Agents look At 492 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: Nick pavetta last. 493 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, Martinez Nick martinez one. 494 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Year, well and he Took he took it because he was. 495 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: Smart musten this is WHAT i. Said we talked about. 496 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: It at one point we were, LIKE i don't know 497 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: if anybody's going to take. This and then as the 498 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: more we talked about, it all these names were kind 499 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: of names Yesterday Cody Cody stavenhagen's Like Labor torres might take. 500 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: It we were, like wait what because you would think 501 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: he'd be able to get a two or three or 502 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: four year deal left because he had a good. Year 503 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: and Then shoto was one because he gets one year 504 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: twenty two, million, right and then we're, like Wholl Trent, 505 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: grisham you know he's had one good year because the 506 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: two or three years before that weren't very. Good so 507 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: the all four of these guys make sense taking these qualifying. 508 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: Offers it's just a lot to see them all. Take 509 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 2: and Then Big wu, obviously because you know he's coming 510 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: off injury and they're, like he's, like, WAIT i can 511 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: go back To milwaukee WHERE i get twenty two. Million uh, 512 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: yeah sign me. 513 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Up, yeah because that can be first of, all and. 514 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: Then you can use this to bounce and then you 515 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 2: can't get. One you can't get. 516 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: One So woodriff had a nice fuller season looking like 517 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: he did for a flash of twenty twenty. Five, yeah 518 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid and he's not going to have 519 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: to deal with that. Attachment it is a real problem 520 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: in free. Agency it is used heavily against the. Players 521 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: draft picks are highly. Coveted it's a. Pain same For Labor. 522 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Torres Labor torres is not even twenty nine, yet turning 523 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: twenty nine next. Month so if he goes out and 524 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: has another solid year like he just, did then he 525 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: can get his multi year. 526 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: Contract, obviously if this is a lot of, ifs you, 527 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 3: know if the guy it all depends on if the 528 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: guy goes out and get has a great, year which 529 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: every player plans on. Doing but one THING i think 530 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: is kind of funny about all these guys what they 531 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: were projected to get in free. Agency they were all 532 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: in that forty to fifty million dollar, range and that 533 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: that competitive draft, pick that draft pick that's that's locked 534 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: to them really demeans their. Value and each of these 535 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: guys showed a big. Woo they're thirty, two they'll be 536 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: thirty three when the hit free. Agency even if they 537 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: get a two year contract after this, season and they 538 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: would have gotten a three year this. Offseason but if 539 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: they get a two year contract after this, season all 540 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: they have to do is make thirty million dollars and 541 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: they're already passing what they're projected was for this. Season 542 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: SO i Think glab's the one that really surprised me, 543 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: here but they were all right in. 544 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: That Trent. 545 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: Grisham Trent grisham's like multiplying what he the most he's 546 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: ever made by almost three times as much as he 547 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 3: ever he's ever made in a. Season so to, me 548 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: it's a no brainer if he was only going to 549 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: get a four year deal now after this he'll be 550 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: thirty after this. Season he can still get a four 551 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: year deal and he's already got essentially twenty two million 552 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: dollars that he made for this. Season that you can, say, 553 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: okay now you don't what would it have been. That 554 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: he made way. More so it's always better to go 555 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: year to, year and teams love year to, year so 556 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: we got to keep pushing this qualifying, up qualifying offer 557 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 3: up more and. 558 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: More The Trent grisham one was the biggest shock to 559 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: me when it was handed. 560 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: Out, YEAH i was surprised they would they gave. IT 561 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: i was. 562 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Shocked he doubled his home run. Total it's been a 563 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: nice player as more of a fourth outfield, option and 564 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: he blew up this past. Season but then the league 565 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: started adjusting to his adjustments as the year went, on 566 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: and his defense is not like it used to. Be 567 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: so nice, player twenty two million dollar player not in my, 568 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: mind do The yankees? Care, actually, yes nowadays they do. 569 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: Care that might be a that actually if IT'S i 570 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: don't know where they said luxury tax, wise but it 571 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: could be a twenty two or thirty or forty million dollar, 572 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: player right because it's depending on where they land in 573 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: a luxury. Tax so, YEAH i think they do. CARE 574 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: i think. THEY i don't know that The cubs were 575 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: surprised at Him. ANAGA i don't know The brewers were, 576 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: tries BUT i think The yankees maybe we're a little 577 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: surprised That christiaan picked this. Up, well maybe The tigers 578 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: were a little Surprised glaber picked this. Up but the 579 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: teams also look at it like this and, say we're 580 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: gonna lock the players out one year. Deal they're off 581 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 2: the books and we can start. Over and then if 582 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: we have a salary, camp which they all, WANT i 583 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: mean the cap team and the owner's team they all. 584 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: Want we all know they want a salary. Cap so 585 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: they're going to, say, well that's twenty two million off 586 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: our books and we can they can walk and try 587 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: to find somewhere. 588 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: ELSE i actually look at it on the other, end, 589 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: right If I'm Tran, Grisham i'm going to get punished 590 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: for the qualifying. Offer my defense is not like it 591 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: used to. BE i could be looked at as a. 592 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: FLUKE i could be looked at as the league adjusting 593 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: to you know what he, did, RIGHT i was looking 594 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: hands further. Away then league adjusts a lot of breaking 595 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: pitches that he wasn't hitting later in the. Year so 596 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: that's all going to be used against you when you 597 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: don't have a solid track. Record, right he wasn't going 598 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: to get twenty two million dollars on an average annual 599 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: value on them year contract, like no, Way, Okay so 600 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: let's say he signed a three year. Contract if you 601 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: really believe that there's going to be significant lockout time, 602 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: missed you're already knocking out one of those. Seasons so 603 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: now it's really a two year, contract, Right and how 604 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: much is your average annual value versus just being, like 605 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: damn not a twenty two million dollar. Player But i'll 606 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: take that for a. Year see what happens after, that 607 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: because this year you're playing the full, season, right we 608 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: don't have lockout concerns until the year after. That so, 609 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: yeah for, Me, KRATZ i WAS i was shocked that 610 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: that was given out by The, yanks also due to 611 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: the fact THAT i think they still want to try 612 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: and go after A. Bellinger Kyle tucker starts to crowd 613 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: up the outfield a little. Bit you've Got Jason. Dominguez 614 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: If Spencer, jones you, know breaks out or continues to 615 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: break out and is the real deal in the major, 616 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: leagues you're going to run out of. Spots John carlo 617 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: is still there for YOUR dh, position WHICH i think 618 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: clogs things up as good as he. Is. Right If 619 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: judge goes through an. Issue it gets complicated for The. 620 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Yankees they dealt with that last. 621 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: Year how much of these numbers were where he was 622 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: hitting in the lineup in front of THE Mvp Aaron. 623 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: Judge how much of this spike was that like good, 624 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: pool left handed, hitter able to get, like you know, 625 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: what he's always been somebody that controls the strike zone very. 626 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: Well now it's, like, hey you control the strike, zone 627 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: take your shot because they're gonna give you middle, middle 628 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: because they are not going to walk you on purpose 629 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: to pitch to. Judge so to, me took advantage of. 630 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: That his defensive, metrics defensive front saved outs above average 631 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: are all in the. Negatives this year he stole three, 632 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: bases WHICH i get. It you're you, know you're hitting 633 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: in front of your own, base in front of. Judge, 634 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: hey he can hit you in from where you're at first, 635 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: base so you stay. Still but LIKE i was surprised 636 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: they handed it out to, him less surprised that he accepted. 637 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: It officially Official this From Laura, albanize who covers The. 638 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: Mets they Cut frankie on top designated for As simon. 639 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: Waver and Having Tommy. John, yeah some type of. 640 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: Surgery that's bouncing him. Out, YEAH i think IT'S tj 641 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: for the rest of for the entire twenty twenty, sixties. 642 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: Listen we. LISTENED i don't Know Frankie montoss at. All 643 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: praps might know. HIM i don't know, him but we 644 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: said when The red signed, him wasn't The red who 645 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: signed him last year The. Reds The red signed him 646 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: for like fifteen million whatever it, was and he hadn't 647 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: pitched in almost two. Years i'm, like that's crazy, money 648 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: right for a guy got your pitch to The brewers 649 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: and he got traded To. Berwise he did, okay but 650 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: he never really did. Great and then The mets sent 651 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: him to a two year like thirty six million dollar 652 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: deal and then thirty FOUR i, think, well, Whatever, jack 653 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: thirty something, million thirty four whatever it. Was but he 654 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: got hurt and he and then when he did, pitch 655 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 2: he was, awful and then all of a, sudden he's hurt, 656 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: Again LIKE i. Didn't you would Think David sertz would 657 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: have looked at this and, said, Wow, AGAIN i don't 658 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: Know Frankie. MONTAS i can't judge when people get, hurt 659 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: but if you just go off his Performance this should 660 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: have been a one year, deal one year, deal one year. 661 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: Deal The mets got him for two, years and now 662 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: they're paying him for two. 663 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Years that was the most shocking signing last year in 664 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: terms of how much money was given out to a 665 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: player with that track. Record it's not like he's been 666 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: in the league for five. Minutes that was. Insane two, 667 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: years thirty four million dollars and he could opt out 668 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: after year one if he performed. Well nine appearances thirty eight, 669 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: innings six to eighty sixty THREE era. Plus it's not 670 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: big League calimber. Production he had some injuries mixed in damaged. 671 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Goods just telling it like it. Is it has nothing 672 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: to do with the. PERSONALITY i don't. Care you just 673 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: don't buy an asset like that on the free agent. 674 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Market this was the major mistake that The mets. Made 675 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: David stearns is what did you say the other? Day 676 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: one of you guys said it like playing in. 677 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: He's going to the deep. End, yeah he's playing in 678 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: the kiddie pool still because he thinks he's still In. 679 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: Milwaukee you're in The mets, now you can go in 680 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: the deepend and get the big. Boys you can get 681 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 2: the adults now like the things he had to. Do 682 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: and this is what we had this conversation yesterday when 683 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: we were talking ABOUT i forget what team we, WERE 684 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: i don't know if maybe The tigers or. Somebody and 685 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: we were, like, oh they're trying to win on the. 686 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: Margins like, no like everybody tries to get into the 687 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: margins and win on the. Margins how about we just 688 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: try to win with the best, Players like why are 689 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: we always EVERY gm tries to out smart and be, like, 690 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: oh look how SMART i am BECAUSE i got this 691 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: guy AND i saved this money instead of being, like 692 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 2: you know, What i'm gonna go get the best players 693 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: and put them on my team because we can have 694 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: the best. Team, yeah that's what he. 695 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Said that's what he. 696 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: Said that's what he. Said that's what he. 697 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: Said All, right there's a lot going on with The Pittsburgh, 698 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: pirates perfect timing for A pirates dedicated, show, which by the, 699 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: way is Called Bucco. Territory it's brand, new it's, great 700 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: it's part of THE Ft. Network but, anyway, yeah you 701 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: have two things at play, here and we're going to 702 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: cover both of. Them one is an offer reported To 703 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: Josh naylor that did not get the job, done but 704 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: looked substantial if you believe. It the other portion is 705 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: is that little article that popped up there with an 706 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: anonymous teammate Of Paul skiing saying how much he can't 707 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: wait to be A. Yankee so let's start there because 708 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: they're both tied to each other since some of the 709 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 1: other reports that the pirates are trying to really build 710 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: Around paul skins like they're, changed, right like being in 711 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: that relationship where they keep Saying i've, changed they claim 712 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: to be. Changed so first, off let's get. Schemes talking 713 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: To Dan patrick on his. 714 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 4: Ship, YEAH i MEAN i was frustrated for a couple 715 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: hours and then and then you, know kind of got 716 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 4: over it and talked to the media later that. Night you, 717 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: know it is what it. Is there's stuff that's going 718 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: to come, out you, know good and. Bad it's you, 719 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: know obviously it's it's not. TRUE i think the hardest 720 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 4: part of leading Air force for me, was you, know 721 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: we had just won a conference, championship the first one 722 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: in the school's, history and you know didn't and we've 723 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: been out that and it felt like there was, unfinished you, 724 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 4: know work that needed to be. Done so that's how 725 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 4: it feels right. Now we're you, KNOW i won the 726 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 4: we won the national championship or the conference championship at Air. 727 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: Force that's that's what is on the horizon for. 728 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: Us we just have to do. 729 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: It and leaving before, that would you, know leave a 730 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 4: bad taste in my mouth because there wasn't you, know 731 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: there was work to be done that we didn't. 732 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Do what do you think of the. 733 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: Answer there's one major difference Air force versus The. Pirates 734 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: The pirates are playing in the major. Leagues Air forces 735 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: is a great school and a GREAT i love THE 736 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: i love the, military AND i love all, that but 737 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: they're not playing in the major. Leagues the best players 738 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 2: are the. Best they're in the. Conference and, listen congratulations 739 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: Of paul's, Schemes but he went TO lsu to get 740 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: paid and to win a national, championship which he did 741 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: right With Dylan cruz and that whole. Crew, now guess 742 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: what you're with The. Pirates they're not winning anytime. Soon 743 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 2: don't say they're. Trying oh we tried On, joshie Because 744 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 2: Ben verlander reported it, right, like, Oh Ben verlonard who 745 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: works for The Major Leagues baseball tried to report. It it, like, 746 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 2: okay so, cool but they were like fifteen million dollars 747 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: off from Nail or guess. What he was in a 748 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: place he liked their better. Team they have a chance to. 749 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 2: Compete he's not going To. Pittsburgh you have to, overpay thank. 750 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: You you have to overpay to get people to come 751 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: To pittsburgh because they don't believe. It they think you're 752 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: full of. Crap and so then guess. What eventually he's 753 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: gonna happen to him and he can, Say i'm gona 754 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: feel like something's unfinished In. Pittsburgh that's, cool finding, Dandy 755 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: but at the end of the, day they're gonna trade 756 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: you because they can get four or five pieces back 757 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: and it's not gonna matter you SAY i want to. 758 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: STAY i want to stay unless you're Buyron bucks and 759 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: have a full note trade sign an. Extension you ain't, Staying. 760 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: Paul And i'm Sorry pirates fans BECAUSE i think you 761 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: guys deserve, Better but you ain't staying because they're gonna 762 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: ship you. 763 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: Out are we about to play a game this offseason 764 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: where The pirates make the s offers to players that 765 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: falls show with turk. 766 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 2: School Ball ark school. Ball they're talking about Trading Terrek 767 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 2: Scooball Paul, Skans terrek school the two of the best, 768 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: three two of the if not the two best pitchers 769 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: in the world right now in baseball right both one 770 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: Saw young's both talking about being. Traded why why EVERYTHING 771 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: i see in baseball is doing? Great attendance is of, 772 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 2: viewerships of revenues. Up but every team is losing. Money 773 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 2: explain that to, Me, scott BECAUSE i can't figure it. 774 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: Out, well The pirates are making. Money that's the. 775 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: Fact every team is making. Money if they weren't Making 776 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,760 Speaker 2: these are all. Businessmen every owner is a, businessman business, person, women, 777 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 2: man whatever they. Are whoever owns the, teams you're business, people. 778 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: Okay these business people know how to make. Money if 779 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: you're not making, money you sell the team because you know. 780 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: What you can make your money that, way and you 781 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: say it's someone else's. Problem, otherwise if You're Bob, nutting 782 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: if you're the With Dick momford And, colorado if you're 783 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: not making, money you sell the team and you take 784 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: your franchise value that you made all this money on 785 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 2: and you take, it you cash it, in you put 786 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 2: that into something. Else to try to make. Money, yeah 787 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 2: so don't give me the we're losing money and we 788 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: can't afford these players because you. 789 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: Can't times are. Hard but In skeens, CASE i think 790 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: we have a different topic, Here. Kratz it's not about signing. 791 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: Schemes it's About skiens actually wanting to stay. There right, 792 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: now if You're Paul, skins there aren't many numbers that 793 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: you're saying yes to if you want to look over 794 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: TO i, MEAN i know he's a different Position Mike 795 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: trout and, Say, OKAY i might be one of the 796 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: best pitchers of this, generation, right but AM i about 797 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: to sign with a team That i'll never really get 798 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: much success. 799 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 3: With, no you're. Not and they're not going to make 800 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 3: enough of an. Offer they're not going to make enough 801 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: of an offer that would give. Them they're just there's to, 802 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: me there's no number that's going to come. Close and 803 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: we might even hear we might even hear a. Number 804 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: oh you, know The pirates Offered Paul skeens this or 805 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 3: that like to, me until The pirates make an offer 806 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: that is even equal to what somebody would get somewhere, 807 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 3: else it's not even a blip on my, radar like 808 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: The rays started doing that for. Years they were making 809 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: offers that were equal to what guys we're going to 810 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: get at other. Places AND i wouldn't have believed it 811 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: HAD i not heard it from the people that signed 812 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 3: at other, places teammates of, mine and so, like, hey 813 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 3: you know, what they were definitely. Trying it didn't, happen you, 814 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: know but to be fifteen million under and then to 815 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 3: have a have a superstar In Paul, skens you, know 816 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 3: not being able to say definitively that he can he 817 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 3: can stay In pittsburgh for the rest of his career 818 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: is a disservice to The pittsburgh fans and to his. 819 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: Career so, Yeah Jeff passing in His notes column reporting that, 820 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: yeah they were willing to Sign naylor for more than 821 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: twice the franchise previous record free agent, deal which currently 822 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: stands at thirty nine million dollars Before naylor said, yeah no, 823 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: thanks you're the pirates And i'm ad libbing now on this. 824 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: Part you're the pirates and you didn't pay as much 825 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: As seattle. Would the other part that Pass and ads 826 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: in his column Is pittsburgh is known to have interest 827 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: In please hold your, Laughs please hold your, Laps Kyle. 828 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: Schwarber you Think Kyle schwarber is going to sign with 829 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: The pirates to finish up his. 830 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 2: Career, okay you want to you want to Sign Kyle, 831 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: schwarber you better sign about three or four other dudes 832 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: first before you get To Kyle, schwarber because he's not 833 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: he's looking to. 834 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: Win he's not signing. 835 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: There if they if they went out and Signed, TUCKER 836 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: i don't know who the hell, else whoever else is 837 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: a free. AGENT i don't know name the best free 838 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: agents they. Named they signed the best for a free. 839 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: Agency you pay them with schemes and some of the 840 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: other pieces they have. 841 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: Plans Huh tucker and Then schwarber they. 842 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 2: Boom now now you're talking about a team that might 843 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 2: be able to do Some. Stein i'm in because he's 844 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: not signing. There by the, way, SORRY i had to 845 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: get Out. Corey his phone, died so he's calling back 846 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: out of. 847 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: Course but you gotta be kidding. Me Kyle schwarber is 848 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: going to sign with The. Pirates how much money would 849 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: it Take Kyle schwarber to be offered from The pirates 850 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: over anyone else's offer for him to sign. THEM i 851 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: don't know if they here's a. Number he's super, rich he, 852 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: wants he likes to. Win he also. 853 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: Finished BUT i, mean if someone offers him four, years 854 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty and The pirates come and say 855 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 2: five years two, fifty. 856 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: Fine there's your, number one hundred million, DOLLARS. 857 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: I probably do that. One. OKAY i, mean it ain't gonna, 858 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: Happen But i'm just Saying. 859 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: Kyle would probably, say, hey can we use that to 860 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: spend money on anybody? Else? Ever, true it's just such 861 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: a joke to think that he would actually consider that 862 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: franchise right now with the way that they've treated their 863 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: team and free. Agency tell Me i'm, Wrong please tell 864 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: Me i'm wrong That Kyle schwarver is going to get 865 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 1: an offer From pittsburgh that's similar to another offer and, say, 866 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: yep going. 867 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: THERE i can't the baseball fan of, me the heart 868 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: of hearts knowing Different pirate fans they want, That, yes 869 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 3: they want. It and it's like people are gonna, say, 870 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: well what about the Like Jason worth with The, Nationals 871 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 3: like he signed. There Jason worth got offered FIFTY i. 872 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 2: Think it was fifty. 873 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: Two million more than the next highest offer that he, received, 874 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: like we're not we're not talking about it's not the. 875 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 3: Same it's not apples to, Apples like The pirates won't 876 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 3: go to Where Kyle schwarber even will Get AND i 877 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 3: HOPE i get to eat all my words That i'm saying. 878 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 3: HERE i hope we get to play this all back 879 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 3: And pirate fans can laugh at us and look at us. 880 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: Now because they do have a rotation with some. Offense 881 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: could be a great. 882 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: Team DO i believe. 883 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: THAT i want The pirates to be good BECAUSE i 884 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: want all the teams to, try AND i want fans 885 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 2: to be rewarded for their. Loyalty and there are some 886 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: Awesome pittsburgh. Fans, yeah it's one of the best. Ballparks 887 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: it's one of the coolest stadiums you could ever go, 888 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: to and there are some die Hard it's the same As, oakland, 889 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 2: Right like for a Year's oakland people were, like, oh 890 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 2: there's no. Fans, well there was like about ten to 891 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: twelve Thousand oakland fans that were at every game and 892 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: they were. UNBELIEVABLE i mean they were loud as hell 893 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 2: and there was like none of them. THERE i mean 894 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 2: there was like ten thousand people there and it was 895 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: loud as. Well the same In. Pittsburgh there's like your 896 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: base and they should be rewarded for. 897 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: It look at The. 898 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 2: Steelers The steelers are packed all the, time right because 899 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: they try and win every. 900 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: Year it's not about That pittsburgh has a great fan. 901 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: Base they have a great, ballpark. 902 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: But it's about the fact THAT i feel sorry for 903 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: the fact that they haven't had a winning team in 904 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: a long. Time. 905 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah and you, know even in this report, too from 906 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: passing like they might Let Connor griffin win a. Spot 907 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: he's one of the top prospects in the, sport top 908 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: From Baseball america right. Now he's nineteen years. Old is 909 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: he the savior? YET i mean it's. Early it's awesome 910 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: that they'll let him. Compete i'm all about, it, Right 911 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: and they do have some exciting young, players AND i 912 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: do think they'll sign, someone but they'll probably end up 913 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: signing someone more in like the thirty something million forty fifty, 914 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: right like something much more mid, range and, say, hey 915 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: we tried for the. 916 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 2: They're gonna Sign they're gonna sign a couple of mid, 917 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 2: yes mid free, agents, huh and, say, hey, look, guys 918 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: we're really, trying and we tried to play in the 919 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: big boy, pool but it didn't work. Out it's we 920 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: hear this from numerous teams at this. 921 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: POINT i just don't think we can forget the track 922 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: record for a long period of. Time. Now they've had 923 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: other teams LIKE i don't know the one coming into this, 924 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: season that's some pretty good looking, pitchers and they completely 925 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: neglected the free agent market to help the. Offense the 926 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: offense was. TERRIBLE i got something for. You did you 927 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: see that The rays Cut Christopher? MORRELL i Mean Sabermetric 928 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: darling is he? Though no fun? Guy fun, Fun he's 929 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: fun when he's. 930 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 2: Fun when he was hitting, dingers. 931 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: He's got too many holes in that, swing and that. 932 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 2: Was what do you think The cubs got rid of? 933 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: Him they made a nice move, there, Right. 934 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: Christmer morrell looks like a fun, player but he strikes 935 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 2: out so. Much cratch, like he strikes out so. Much 936 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 2: he doesn't really have a. POSITION i guess they're left 937 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 2: field is kind of where he's. Settled but, yeah he'll 938 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 2: hit you some, dingers but are the two hundred strikeouts 939 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 2: he puts? Up he give him five hundred and six 940 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 2: hundred bats worth twenty five homers every year and bad. 941 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: Defense he hits the ball hard and then certain people 942 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: drool and they need to clean their spit. Up it's too. 943 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: Much it's enough That i'm just saying that pro file 944 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: of player right gets way too much. Hype it's, true 945 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: you know what krats we talked. About it's not an 946 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: old school new school. Thing you just you can't have 947 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: that profile and holes in your swing like? That is 948 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: it unfair for me to say because some guys fix those? Holes? 949 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 3: Uh name one who fixed? Those who fixes those holes 950 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 3: when they're that? 951 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 2: Glaring? 952 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 3: Like is he gonna drop twenty five punch? Outs like to, 953 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 3: ME i would hope For Christopher morel he can look 954 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 3: at himself and, Go, Okay i've in, Dfate i've been 955 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: traded away from The cubs who are trying to. Win 956 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 3: what DO i need to? Change because he's uber, athletic 957 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 3: stupid bat? Speed, like what DO i need to? 958 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: Change we'll? SEE i, mean it's totally up to. 959 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: Him but the problem, IS i, mean exit velocity and 960 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: bat speed numbers that lead to expected numbers that are. 961 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 2: Just those aren't real though real lit those aren't. REAL 962 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: i get so annoyed with. That those aren't, real. 963 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: But sometimes they're helpful to, Show, hey this player actually 964 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: has gone through an unlucky first couple months of the 965 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: season or whatever it, Is, right. 966 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: It's been a lucky first couple of years for. 967 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: Him i'm saying this doesn't apply for this type of. 968 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: Player oh that's my point is there's a TIME i always. 969 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 2: Like, LISTEN i understand where like guys are hitting the 970 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: ball hard and they're not getting, Hits like, yeah okay 971 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: for a couple of, weeks but this has been a while, 972 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 2: Now like everyone's, like this guy's got all the talent 973 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: in the. World but it goes back to krats what 974 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 2: we've talked about on here many. Times not everybody could 975 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 2: be a forty five home run. Guy not everybody's a 976 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 2: thirty to forty home run. Guy hit your fifteen to 977 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 2: twenty and get on base and steal if you're super 978 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: out like they're just because we've gotten to a point in, 979 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 2: baseball which is the way it. Is it's what guys 980 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: get paid. For it's hitting, homers all. 981 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: Right we have two articles fresh up on The Roer 982 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: blog that we do for BET. Mgm one is on 983 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: how to construct the perfect pitcher via each pitch that 984 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: we like best in. Baseball we'll get to that later this, 985 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: week but this one is which teams are most successful 986 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: with limited payrolls and no. Surprise this is looking over 987 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: a period of time where a team like The rays pop. 988 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: Up most of the teams that pop up here with 989 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: the average dollars spent per win are basically the bottom 990 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: of the. Barrel it was a fun exercise but also 991 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: a terrible exercise because most of these teams that had no, success, well. 992 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: The guardians And. Raise everyone wants to be The. Raise 993 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 2: everyone wants to be The. Raise race haven't. Won they 994 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 2: haven't won A World series. 995 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: Yet WHEN i say, SUCCESS i mean the point is 996 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 1: A World series. Title most fan, Bases, yeah. 997 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: It's cool that you make the. Playoffs But i'll tell you, 998 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: what if you talk to a lot of people around the, 999 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: league they will say that the teams are just happy 1000 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: they make the. Playoffs, oh we got, In hey it 1001 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: was we got. In we got, In not, hey we 1002 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 2: didn't we won the World like The dodgers won The 1003 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 2: World series last. Year that was a hell of a. 1004 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 2: Year The yankees are the one team and they don't 1005 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 2: win The World. Series that it's not a successful year 1006 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: other than that team's, like oh we got. In, look 1007 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 2: anything can happen once you get. In anything can happen 1008 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 2: once you get. 1009 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: In many teams think that there's too much chance, risk 1010 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: et cetera in the. PLAYOFFS i can't disagree. MORE i 1011 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: feel like we look at certain teams And i'm, like, 1012 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: yeah that looks like a playoff, team but they're not 1013 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: going to do much. THERE i feel like we say 1014 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: that every year of this show's. Existence, Right, oh they 1015 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: really got to go for that big name. Starter sure 1016 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: is it? Risky, yes going to be A corbyn burn 1017 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: signing for The diamondbacks and then all of a sudden 1018 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,280 Speaker 1: he's hurt and you're not going to have him until 1019 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: part of this coming. Season, Sure but at the same, 1020 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 1: time could he Be Google, yamamoto et cetera and win 1021 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: you A World? 1022 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 3: Series at the end of this, Here Stu sternberg stole 1023 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 3: sold the, race, right? Yep so all those all those 1024 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 3: dollars per wins at the end of his time owning the, race, 1025 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: here does he wish he had A World series? Ring 1026 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 3: if he can't say, Yes if you're an owner right 1027 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 3: now and you just started owning the team and you 1028 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 3: can't say yes to. That just sell just sell it 1029 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 3: now because there are people that have the money that 1030 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: also won the. Ring, like, yeah, great he saved a 1031 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 3: lot of, money made a ton of money when he 1032 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: sold the. Team had he invested some of that money 1033 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 3: that he made and won a, SERIES i. 1034 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 2: Bet he still would have made the same amount of. 1035 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 3: Money that's. 1036 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 2: True he probably would have made more. 1037 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: If you would have made. More, yeah if you have 1038 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: A World series, team you get a lot of bang 1039 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: for the buck after the, facts, RIGHT i mean you 1040 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: went over a very large generation of. Fans when you're 1041 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: able to pull something like that, OFF i always get, told, 1042 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: well you, can't you, know go too far in debt 1043 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: with a current team based on what they're going to 1044 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: sell for in the. FUTURE i, mean you are able 1045 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: to borrow. Money that's part of THE mlb, program LIKE i. Gave, 1046 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: hey The patres have not won A World. SERIES i 1047 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: think they've tried damn hard to do it. Right it's 1048 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: not always going to work. Out but don't you think 1049 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: a team like that has kind of done everything that 1050 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: they could do during the last half? Decade? Awesome, yeah 1051 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: and how is it out there they're. 1052 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 2: Doing fun to sell the. Team they're going to make 1053 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 2: a lot of. 1054 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: Money they want to sell the team because they're not 1055 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: as into, baseball and that. Happens this is the BEST 1056 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: i wasn't on for that best thing that could happen 1057 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: To padres. Fans you got to see who ends up 1058 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: buying the. Team but when you get to the next, 1059 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: generation it's pretty rare that the next generation or the 1060 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters or, whatever right of the of those 1061 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 1: who have passed like baseball as much as that person. 1062 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: Does and if that's not the, case usually it's going 1063 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: to start to turn. Ugly that's just how it. 1064 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: Works As tigers Ask yankees because they complain about how 1065 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 2: all the time, twins well, twins, yes but there's. 1066 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 1: There's tons of next. GENERATION i, mean it's rare that 1067 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: your generation Take tiger's easy. One it's rare that the 1068 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: next generation takes over and cares as. Much it's it's, 1069 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: true and that's, fine. Right it's like when. 1070 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 2: You know Parents jeff And David sampson, way. 1071 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: Well they want a kid to they want their kid to, 1072 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: be you, know the next baseball owner or if they 1073 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: want or if you're a, parent you want your kid 1074 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 1: to be some, job and then the kid that goes 1075 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: in a completely different direction out and is, That, OH 1076 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: i want you to be a, doctor and then the 1077 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 1: kids something To, yeah SO i think that's great news 1078 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: for the. 1079 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 2: PADRES i, Mean kratz lives in with his. Kids like 1080 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 2: my kid plays baseball in. College your kid plays baseball college. 1081 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 2: League BUT i was, like play, football play, golf play, 1082 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: basketball play, anything BECAUSE i don't WANT i know what it, 1083 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 2: is AND i want you to. Do and if they love, baseball, 1084 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 2: fine BUT i wasn't telling my kids you have to 1085 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 2: play BASEBALLOP i. 1086 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: Agree, uh that's because you guys, also like genetically are, 1087 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: gifted so that's getting passed. ON i don't think it 1088 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: works like that when you just sit there and on a, 1089 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: team it's like we're Born. 1090 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: Yankees most of those guys were born on third base 1091 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: and think they. 1092 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: Did a triple Exactly John fitcher's FAVORITE t. Shirt all, Right, 1093 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: Krats AT's on the way out and May day on 1094 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: the way. Out. Uh there it Is trevor may running 1095 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: live on this VERY ft network for the next. Hour 1096 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: check out What trevor brings to the TABLE a lot 1097 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: LIKE ft hot strong Opinions. 1098 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 3: Gratyla they made a great. Trait they got a, Pitcher 1099 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 3: Mike trout back to the. Playoffs gray So riguez gonna 1100 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 3: carry 1101 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: HIM i mean, not h m hm hm