Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy three,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Dailies. I Geist, a production of
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Speaker 1: It's great to have you. You are filling him for Miles,
Speaker 1: not just at the daily by guys, but just in
Speaker 1: regular life. Yeah, I've been hired us his standard life standard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just needed a break, you know, he needed to
Speaker 1: body bear for a minute. And now yeah killing it.
Speaker 1: We got a brown person. It's all the same, right,
Speaker 1: But I don't know, are you six too sure? Yeah, Miles.
Speaker 1: Miles is tall, and I'm always just surprised. Every time
Speaker 1: I see him again for the first time in like
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I'm like, man, you are you
Speaker 1: are a short man energy. He feels like a short person.
Speaker 1: He should be. That's not true. It's because he's approachable.
Speaker 1: He's like secure with himself, you know, so he I
Speaker 1: don't know he has you know, I don't know. He
Speaker 1: just has the energy of somebody who is not defined
Speaker 1: by their height. And then when you see him, it
Speaker 1: takes a moment to be like, oh, you are taller
Speaker 1: than most people. Yeah, anyways, Dave, I'm not allowing you
Speaker 1: to cast dispersions on my comment about Miles being a tall,
Speaker 1: a tall gentleman. Dave's here to start drama. I'm tall too,
Speaker 1: I think. No, I don't believe that at all. I'm
Speaker 1: seven to the same height as Karen Abdul Jabar. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not just kidding. I have I also have short
Speaker 1: man energy. That's why I bring it up. I can
Speaker 1: feel the camaraderie between me and Miles and we hang out. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: that third voice you keep hearing is someone We're through
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Speaker 1: brilliant Dave Chili. This is how we're talking to each
Speaker 1: other the whole episode. We are so far away not
Speaker 1: being the loudest person on a podcast that never happens
Speaker 1: to me, I was taught to project. When I went
Speaker 1: to podcast college, they said, you is your outside voice
Speaker 1: hit the back of the room with extreme prejudice. It
Speaker 1: was hard for me to shake that that directive from
Speaker 1: from elementary school, where it's like user inside six inch voices,
Speaker 1: not six ft voices. But when you become a professional podcaster,
Speaker 1: you've got to use that six ft voice. Okay, you
Speaker 1: gotta get out there. That's six ft two voice, just
Speaker 1: like Miles Gray six two. Yeah, that's yeah, exactly. The
Speaker 1: extreme prejudice reaching the back of the podcast room is
Speaker 1: just all the slurs of podcasters normally. That's right. That's
Speaker 1: how some podcasters hit that back of the room with
Speaker 1: extreme prejudice. It's a hard our syndrome. That's where they
Speaker 1: keep the minorities in the back of the room. So
Speaker 1: all right, well, Dave, we're gonna get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. Paul, we might
Speaker 1: even get to know you a little bit better at
Speaker 1: a moment. First, for you to tell our listeners a
Speaker 1: couple of the things that we're talking about. We're recording
Speaker 1: this on Friday. I don't believe they have released the
Speaker 1: video of the police murder in Memphis. But we do
Speaker 1: have a story about who those police officers where they
Speaker 1: were part of a special task force that was aimed
Speaker 1: at stopping street violence crazily enough. So we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about these sorts of task forces, on how they get covered,
Speaker 1: how they come about, and why they aren't ever held
Speaker 1: to account and hopefully will be. Now I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Trump's return to Meta. They're they're welcoming
Speaker 1: Trump's back on Meta and all his campaign money because
Speaker 1: apparently he was like the biggest spender of all time
Speaker 1: on Meta in terms of political ads. Before we get
Speaker 1: to any of that, Dave, we do like to ask
Speaker 1: our guest, and you may know this, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Speaker 1: I recently googled Martini glasses, specifically Nick and No glasses
Speaker 1: because I broke one in the sink and I'm a
Speaker 1: big Martini drinker, and I found a set of four
Speaker 1: from the Museum of Modern Art in New York's website.
Speaker 1: I don't know why the moment is selling Martini glasses.
Speaker 1: They have like a whole like home goods store connected
Speaker 1: to that. I kind of like some of the stuff,
Speaker 1: and then I feel bad for liking it. It's kind
Speaker 1: of fucked up that they're horning in on Ikea and
Speaker 1: Targets the whole thing. Like, I don't think Target's gonna
Speaker 1: start showing Mark Chagall paintings, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna start getting sculptures from Damien
Speaker 1: Hurst at Ikea. This is not appropriate. Let's still dare you.
Speaker 1: The art at Ikea is incredible and magnificent, and I
Speaker 1: could stare at it for hours getting lost there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I get that, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about fine art, not just you know, like a
Speaker 1: tableau of a bowl of fruit or something or magic
Speaker 1: Do they have magic guy paintings at Ikea? What is
Speaker 1: the art at Ikea? That? That actually is a really
Speaker 1: good questioner. And it's like I feel like them and
Speaker 1: like the people who put art in hotels have to
Speaker 1: link up, you know what I mean. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like they're on the same way, like a black and
Speaker 1: white photo of a guitar trying everywhere I'm there's like live,
Speaker 1: laugh love stuff too, you know for sure? Right, Although
Speaker 1: that does feel like a little bit outside of IKEA's
Speaker 1: wheelhouse the Live Left Love. That's more of a target
Speaker 1: Walmart something in that font, you know what I mean. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, like would it be okay, I'm
Speaker 1: looking there's a Sander Patelski photograph of a pool, so
Speaker 1: like they have like I'm sure they have like somebody
Speaker 1: who has good tastes like buying art for them at Ikea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just doing on this person. You know. Basically the
Speaker 1: MoMA is Ikea without the meat balls. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm here to say. The art at Ikea is just
Speaker 1: as good as the art at the moment, as long
Speaker 1: as you're not a materialist who cares that the it's
Speaker 1: not they're not originals. I am always at the moment
Speaker 1: screaming where are the meat balls? That? Yeah, one could
Speaker 1: say that that Lincoln Berry sauce is artistic. It is
Speaker 1: an expression of humanity's greatest achievement. In my Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do sometimes wonder that, like when I talked about the
Speaker 1: Cheesecake Factory menu being like the thing that will be
Speaker 1: remembered from American, like America's contribution to like civilization. They'll
Speaker 1: just be like marveling at our ability to put that
Speaker 1: much food together and like put it, put it out,
Speaker 1: and you know, just get it all together. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's about the menu itself. I think it's about
Speaker 1: attempting to read the menu in a poorly lit room. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the experience. It's performance art. It engages the audience.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you say that policy because the people
Speaker 1: that eat a cheesecake factory tend to have very bad
Speaker 1: eyesight because they're they're elderly nature. I don't know if
Speaker 1: only old people go to cheesecake factory, but I think
Speaker 1: it's predominantly people who maybe should have some lights on.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should crank that that dimmer a little bit
Speaker 1: so that we can see what we're shoveling in our
Speaker 1: mouthrank that dimmer wing Aham, Florida. You'll occasionally see people
Speaker 1: with little flashlights on their key chains. Like the elderly
Speaker 1: like have little gadgets that I'm not aware of, but
Speaker 1: we do it with our phones, right, yeah, but they've
Speaker 1: got little like squeezy flashlights. I want to show up
Speaker 1: to the cheesecake factory and a full on fucking like
Speaker 1: helmet with a flashlight on it, like I'm going yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm a minor. Yeah, like I'm gonna go rescue
Speaker 1: some tide children and also lots of realistics. But I
Speaker 1: do wonder like, will Ikea be remembered. Will that be
Speaker 1: a thing that people look back on because it is
Speaker 1: like the predominant thing from our It will be the
Speaker 1: like when when they're digging around in the rubble of
Speaker 1: the US, mostly what they're going to be finding is
Speaker 1: probably i Kea furniture, right, Yeah, I think they. I
Speaker 1: think that there's, uh, there's a real serious point to
Speaker 1: be made here, guys that the abundance that we all
Speaker 1: enjoy today, all the furniture, all of the food, all
Speaker 1: of the things that we have that we take for
Speaker 1: granted are going to be uh not possible in the
Speaker 1: next one years. So people look back on the the
Speaker 1: just pure greed and avarice of our society and be like,
Speaker 1: how did they? How did they do this? People lived
Speaker 1: like this? They got to they got to get an
Speaker 1: appetizer and the main and then dessert. Unbelievable. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be shocked. So yeah, I think that Ikea and cheesecake
Speaker 1: factory and Sizzler and hometown buffet and Costco. We're all
Speaker 1: going to be considered like these quirky relics of a
Speaker 1: different time. I don't know if it's sad or not,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of way we view like Great Gatsby,
Speaker 1: like the way people are like we're having a Gatsby
Speaker 1: party that like have yeah with like three meatballs to
Speaker 1: be like great grandchildren. Right. Um. I learned this week
Speaker 1: that Ikea is a nonprofit. Did you guys know that? What? No,
Speaker 1: that feels like that feels like a tax dodge exactly.
Speaker 1: I feel like it is and it's but it's technically
Speaker 1: a nonprofit. Yeah, kids, technically a religion like scientology. They
Speaker 1: don't have to pay taxes. I heard Warren Buffett is
Speaker 1: donating his entire fortune to Ikea. He's such a good guy.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. He's my favorite, Like he's my favorite
Speaker 1: spiritual leader. What is something, Dave? The thing is overrated?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, okay, this is definitely not No, those meatballs
Speaker 1: are slamming. As we established, I'm gonna stick to movies
Speaker 1: because this is Oscar season. There's a lot of controversy
Speaker 1: out there about what movies were nominated, what movies weren't nominated.
Speaker 1: So something that is under or overrated is what we're
Speaker 1: starting with, right, Okay, an overrated movie that I saw
Speaker 1: this year. I am gonna go with Black Panther Wakonda forever.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna have to turn into all of
Speaker 1: my my black cards and whatnot. For saying this, but
Speaker 1: I found that movie very boring. It was long, and
Speaker 1: I didn't really connect to any of the characters. That
Speaker 1: really missed Chadwick Boseman. Uh And so I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we all did it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm spoiling anything, but at the end, he's got a kid, right,
Speaker 1: He's he's had he had sex once, Black Panther had
Speaker 1: sex ones and he's got a little kid at the end,
Speaker 1: who's gonna, I guess girl up to be Chadwick Boseman
Speaker 1: recreated with artificial intelligence or something. You know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: at some point we're going to get that. And I
Speaker 1: got kind of weepy with that. But like, for the
Speaker 1: most part, I was so bored with the little guy
Speaker 1: with his little lizz little wings on his feet and
Speaker 1: all the water. At the same time, I love to Avatar,
Speaker 1: So there's something wrong with me here. Okay, But have
Speaker 1: you considered that he's incredibly hot, the guy with the
Speaker 1: wings the water. I did consider it. I took it.
Speaker 1: I took a beat. I said, Okay, let's see doy
Speaker 1: like this movie. I'm not sure that guy is really hot.
Speaker 1: Still don't like it. Maybe if you've been in a
Speaker 1: better movie. But I agree, he's a he's a handsome,
Speaker 1: sexy guy. I'm fine with. Okay, here's here's my The
Speaker 1: only thing that I thought was like a little bit strange.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a little bit predictable in
Speaker 1: who the Black Panther was going to be, and I
Speaker 1: felt like they had that whole m. I t girl
Speaker 1: that character wasn't like fully developed in It felt like
Speaker 1: kind of an on. But I'm such a superhero head.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck it, let's go. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I just go into those movies empty head,
Speaker 1: I don't care, and I have fun, young, dumb and
Speaker 1: full of calm. Let's go go. I don't know if
Speaker 1: everybody is comfortable with me me sharing this spoiler too,
Speaker 1: But if you haven't seen the movie and you don't
Speaker 1: want to know who Black pant the New Black Panther is,
Speaker 1: you maybe skip this Okay, so here we go five four,
Speaker 1: three to one. Okay, So the thing about Panther is
Speaker 1: that it's really weird that Rachel doulas All ended up
Speaker 1: being the Black Panther. Yeah, I mean, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a perfect choice, you know what I mean to
Speaker 1: the work of Chadwick Boseman, who better than Rachel dolas
Speaker 1: All what one of the most important black people of
Speaker 1: my generation. Certainly, I do hope that somebody did skip
Speaker 1: forward and that joke's only for those of us who
Speaker 1: just don't give a fuck. We is the new Black
Speaker 1: Panther does have an only fans? Yes, is that real? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's going yea. Also, little wingis on the
Speaker 1: feet that you like fly by sort of ice skating
Speaker 1: around through the sky on is a fun little thing
Speaker 1: that I don't know that it's just like Superman that
Speaker 1: they have Superman flying just through like sheer tyranny of
Speaker 1: will and alien superpowers and like, you know, that was
Speaker 1: I feel like that's usually how we see it. So
Speaker 1: a fun new little way for somebody to fly around
Speaker 1: then allows you to say, little Wiggis on the feet
Speaker 1: is is a win I think for for the superhero genre.
Speaker 1: I did not see the movie. I saw that Doctor
Speaker 1: Strange movie by the by the director who I really like,
Speaker 1: whose name Sam Raimi, Sam Ramy. Yeah, I've liked a
Speaker 1: lot of his movies. I saw that Doctor Strange movie,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is the last? Is the
Speaker 1: last Marvel movie I ever have to see? I think
Speaker 1: this is I'm I think I'm out. I will say
Speaker 1: the new Black Panther was better than Doctors. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Black Panther had Rachel dolaj All and Doctor Strange didn't.
Speaker 1: That's the difference. That's the big was If Rachel Dolasall
Speaker 1: isn't anything, I feel like that should be named Doctor Strange.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Right over here with that, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated? Dave? Okay, this
Speaker 1: is this is going to be more controversial than saying
Speaker 1: I didn't like Black Panther that much. I saw The
Speaker 1: Whale yesterday. Our good friend Brendan Fraser. It's two hours
Speaker 1: of him going friend of the show. People are amazing
Speaker 1: over and over again, which is now, I just do
Speaker 1: it to annoy my girlfriend. I'm like, hey, Dorothy, people
Speaker 1: are amazing, are amazing. Oh, it's amazing. People have slagged
Speaker 1: this movie off a lot, and I've read a lot
Speaker 1: of reviews that have been very um negative towards the film.
Speaker 1: Understandably so, I think the way that it handles obesity,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we should be using the
Speaker 1: word obesity. I feel like some people feel that's a
Speaker 1: trigger or a slur, but people, bigger people. The way
Speaker 1: it handles it is not great. There are there are
Speaker 1: there are scenes where he's like bathing or trying to
Speaker 1: do various things, takes the shirt off, and this music
Speaker 1: plays where it's like the creature from the Black Lagoon
Speaker 1: just popped out of a bathtub or something. It's really
Speaker 1: kind of like horror movie adjacent, and it's also like, um,
Speaker 1: it's deeply, deeply not subtle. This is one of the
Speaker 1: most obvious movies of all time, but I was also
Speaker 1: moved by it. I don't want to get too deep
Speaker 1: into talking about the Whale on this podcast, but I
Speaker 1: did relate to some of the themes of the movie,
Speaker 1: specifically about being apparent about divorce, about guilt in how
Speaker 1: you're raising your kid, and feeling like you failed yourself
Speaker 1: or you failed them, feeling shame, like these are all
Speaker 1: emotions we all kind of go through and I connected
Speaker 1: to the movie. And I think one of the sad
Speaker 1: things about the way we talk about films or art
Speaker 1: in general, how we talk about creativity is often literal.
Speaker 1: This is a deeply literal movie, but it also has
Speaker 1: things to offer if you engage with it in any
Speaker 1: kind of way. But I think people look at any
Speaker 1: any film they go to, especially movies that are prestige films,
Speaker 1: and they say, if it doesn't conform to exactly what
Speaker 1: I think and it doesn't make me feel good every
Speaker 1: single second, I'm going to set it on fire and
Speaker 1: I hate it. And I would rather engage with this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff honestly and with empathy towards the filmmakers. Granted,
Speaker 1: these filmmakers are often white men who are very wealthy
Speaker 1: and don't need my empathy. But if I'm not an
Speaker 1: empathetic person going to a movie, if I'm not thinking
Speaker 1: about what the filmmakers trying to say or hope to say,
Speaker 1: then why am I bothering with it? I might as
Speaker 1: well just go see Black Panther again. You know, I want,
Speaker 1: I want movies to move me in in in a
Speaker 1: real way, And I think there are things to like
Speaker 1: about The Whale, even though it can be very stupid
Speaker 1: and very offensive to certain people. The fact that it's
Speaker 1: about large person and called the whale is not not
Speaker 1: starring someone who is that that suit. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this, but it's a metaphor. He's not
Speaker 1: really a whale, He's not really Hold up, dude, I
Speaker 1: thought Free Willy was going to be in this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does turn out people are amazing. So yeah, now
Speaker 1: that's gonna be stuck in my head. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: that my alarm. Uh. I will say that I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this with the discussion of everything everywhere all
Speaker 1: at once. I love that movie. I thought it was
Speaker 1: amazed saying that, I do think like there was like
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism from like white people who couldn't relate,
Speaker 1: and part of what I was thinking about it today
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, obviously there are aspects of movies
Speaker 1: that you like in aspects you don't like. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why exactly what you said we have to
Speaker 1: have everything be perfect because people aren't perfect. It aren't
Speaker 1: isn't perfect, but there can be like things that make
Speaker 1: you feel something different and also like it. Not everything
Speaker 1: has to be for you, Like, if something is harmful,
Speaker 1: I understand criticizing it and the whale in those ways
Speaker 1: are is very harmful. But if something isn't harmful and
Speaker 1: it's you just thought it was like corny or cringe
Speaker 1: or whatever. People were tweeting about everything everywhere on all
Speaker 1: it was like, just leave it. Let people be cringe.
Speaker 1: That's not harmful, you know what I mean. It's people
Speaker 1: people are critic because I think it's because it got
Speaker 1: lauded so wet much. It's finally being accepted, like Michelle
Speaker 1: Yell being the first. Yeah, so there's a backlash, and
Speaker 1: it tends to be like a racist backlash, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's from white people. They're like, I can't relate.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like me. Um, so I think or
Speaker 1: and then they kind of try to come up with
Speaker 1: other reasons other than raise. But yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: there's that now. So there's like discourse about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever, I enjoyed it and I had fun
Speaker 1: and I moved on, you know, at the at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I think it's true that people
Speaker 1: aren't amazing. Some people aren't amazing. I think, yeah, there
Speaker 1: there is so much art being created and so much
Speaker 1: to consume that I think people are looking for an
Speaker 1: excuse to hate something or not like something. And then
Speaker 1: you pair that dynamic of like from the consumer end
Speaker 1: with the like critical or just like word of mouth
Speaker 1: critical element of every time you say you like something,
Speaker 1: it's a risk. Like it's it's very easy to just
Speaker 1: be like one of end people to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really like that because blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You know, so like staking your claim to something I
Speaker 1: actually don't agree with that. I don't think it is
Speaker 1: like a risk. I'm not more likely to judge someone
Speaker 1: harshly for a recommendation than I am for them saying
Speaker 1: that they hated something that I loved. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like people are just like guarded and they're like
Speaker 1: I don't want to let I don't want to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be vulnerable and say I liked this thing.
Speaker 1: You know. I also think like that is very true
Speaker 1: in terms of like social currency. But I also think
Speaker 1: like a lot of takes are actually like physically financially monetized,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if you're making controversial
Speaker 1: statements or if you you know, just like something like
Speaker 1: you can legit or in money off of that through
Speaker 1: social media, you know, so it's easy to like people
Speaker 1: want to have a take and jump in on the
Speaker 1: discourse and make money off of it, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be way more successful if I said absolutely ridiculous
Speaker 1: things all the time. And uh, when I wake up
Speaker 1: in the morning, I have a choice to make every day,
Speaker 1: which is do I want to be a complete soulless
Speaker 1: shill for horrible things or do I want to just
Speaker 1: be a normal guy. And I choose normal guy most
Speaker 1: of the time. I'm this close to choosing shill. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what capitalism does to you. It It nails you
Speaker 1: against the wall, makes you see it seemed like the adult,
Speaker 1: responsible thing to do. I've said it before, I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. Okay I am. I am a queer brown woman,
Speaker 1: all right. I could sell out so easily to the right,
Speaker 1: you know, I would be so good. There would be
Speaker 1: shock waves Canada. Owens is so powerful in conservative media
Speaker 1: because she she stands out and she can be that
Speaker 1: person that someone drags in and says, look, see she
Speaker 1: doesn't mind police violence against unarmed citizens. And she's black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just like black police officers. They cover up all
Speaker 1: the things that nobody wants you to see. That's right,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and as we're recording this,
Speaker 1: we still haven't see I don't think they've released the
Speaker 1: video of the five police officers beating Tyree Nichols to death,
Speaker 1: but just generally, like I don't know, it feels like
Speaker 1: we're at a moment that everyone is girding themselves for
Speaker 1: that and we're getting some reporting on the context. By
Speaker 1: the time you hear this, the video has probably been released.
Speaker 1: But one of the articles I just wanted to highlight
Speaker 1: is about the unit that they were a part of,
Speaker 1: and we see that we see this a lot like
Speaker 1: we saw it with the Gun Traced Task Force in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: These cops were a part of a unit of forty
Speaker 1: officers who were designed to stop violence. And the acronym
Speaker 1: they gave themselves as a unit for such a benign
Speaker 1: peacekeeping mission was Scorpion Street Crimes Operation to Restore Peace
Speaker 1: in Our Neighborhoods Unit. Because what sends a message that
Speaker 1: you are looking to gain the trust of the community
Speaker 1: better than like the antagonist from that Esop's fable, the
Speaker 1: about of you know someone who yeah, it's a Mortal
Speaker 1: Kombat character. It's the thing that like the person in
Speaker 1: the substa will trust for one second and they're like,
Speaker 1: what what the fund did you expect? And I don't
Speaker 1: know it. Just we've gotten a lot of really hard
Speaker 1: to refute evidence that maybe the police are a bad
Speaker 1: idea over the past year. We're going to keep getting it.
Speaker 1: And just the way that the mainstream media metabolizes this
Speaker 1: evidence is the problem, like it or it's a huge
Speaker 1: part of the problem, Like they don't stop and look
Speaker 1: at it often enough. The cops in the subway shooting,
Speaker 1: like running away from danger and telling people close by
Speaker 1: to call nine one one was just echoed by a
Speaker 1: video where someone fell onto the subway tracks and a
Speaker 1: bunch of citizens jumped down to lift them up to
Speaker 1: safety while a cop stood on the side and like
Speaker 1: waved his flashlight at any trains that might have been coming,
Speaker 1: because you know, someone had to do that, but he
Speaker 1: he picked the cush job in that scenario. He was
Speaker 1: doing that so casually too. He was like taking breaks
Speaker 1: and stuff, and like that was like, what is happening,
Speaker 1: but it's as long as the mainstream media responds to
Speaker 1: any So this Scorpion Task Force was a response to
Speaker 1: murder rates in Memphis going up after the pandem and
Speaker 1: the way that that you know, rise in crime was
Speaker 1: covered by the mainstream media was a fucking crime in
Speaker 1: and of itself when when you actually go back and
Speaker 1: look like people actually did the work to see what
Speaker 1: was happening, and they found that a lot of these programs,
Speaker 1: these social programs and and public schools were frozen for
Speaker 1: a long period of time, and those are things that
Speaker 1: are there to keep people doing things as a community
Speaker 1: and you know, interacting and doing productive things. And when
Speaker 1: those things all stopped, there was a rise in the
Speaker 1: murder rate. And the mainstream ideas analysis of the rise
Speaker 1: of the murder rate was that the police feelings were
Speaker 1: hurt and that's why there was a rise of the
Speaker 1: murder rate. Like that is ultimately what their version came
Speaker 1: down to, because like any that, they also said that
Speaker 1: it was because they got defunded, which didn't happen, Like
Speaker 1: any defunding was ultimately minimal. So I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just as we're experiencing the coming news cycle, like I
Speaker 1: just want to be conscious of the fact that we
Speaker 1: this is going to start a new conversation about defunding
Speaker 1: the police, and it's going to be treated as or
Speaker 1: what what else? What else could we possibly do? You know,
Speaker 1: we this is the only thing that we have is
Speaker 1: creating these like task forces that are like the troop
Speaker 1: surges in Iraq, like where they just like send people
Speaker 1: in to be like extra violent and send extra people
Speaker 1: in and like fund extra fund the police. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to keep in mind, like that
Speaker 1: is not what the data says, that's not what any
Speaker 1: of the evidence suggests works. And we have like so
Speaker 1: we're just being fucking bombarded with evidence constantly that that's
Speaker 1: the case, like policing, doubling down on policing doesn't fucking work.
Speaker 1: And that's like it's disgusting, it's really sickening that it
Speaker 1: feels like George Floyd died. We went through everything that
Speaker 1: summer trying to like defund the police, and now they've
Speaker 1: just taken this narrative and said that we have when
Speaker 1: we haven't, and that that's why, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the right being like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is what the world has come to, and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what capitalism has made the world. You can't
Speaker 1: just say it's socialism, you know, you can't just say
Speaker 1: that it's the opposite of what it is, because like
Speaker 1: the numbers do speak to the fact that funding police
Speaker 1: actually causes more violence. It raises like crime rates when
Speaker 1: the NYPD was on strike, prime rates fell in other
Speaker 1: in other cities, and like you know, in Massachusetts, I
Speaker 1: think there was like a police station that was like
Speaker 1: disbanded and crime rates fell. Like it all points to
Speaker 1: defunding the police and funding social services as actually stopping
Speaker 1: like violence. If you want to stop like people from dying,
Speaker 1: you cannot fund a cops city in Atlanta. You cannot
Speaker 1: fund all of these so called like training organizations or
Speaker 1: military militarized the police and have no repercussions. Because the
Speaker 1: reason they're acting like this, the reason that they're able to,
Speaker 1: you know, kill black people, unarmed people on the street
Speaker 1: or even in their homes, like with that disabled man
Speaker 1: that happened like recently, he came out with his hands
Speaker 1: up and they shot him as soon as he opened
Speaker 1: the door. The reason that they're acting like this is
Speaker 1: because they have those, and I have tanks, and they
Speaker 1: have gangs as just in you know from Knock l
Speaker 1: A about the l A p D. You know, like
Speaker 1: they have the protection of a system and if you
Speaker 1: keep funneling money into it, they're never gonna stop. This
Speaker 1: is this is domestic terrorism, That's what this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's really important to talk about
Speaker 1: all the times when police officers don't do what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Right, think the subway guy. You know,
Speaker 1: where's the bravery, where is the where were the brave
Speaker 1: police officers in Uvaldi? They wouldn't is a great example. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that I should have included. I mean, I mean they
Speaker 1: there was a Supreme Court case that justified that they
Speaker 1: do not have to prevent crime or like act when
Speaker 1: crime is happening. That's why that Parkland officer was allowed
Speaker 1: to run away with like no repercussions. They that is
Speaker 1: not their job. They are protected by law to not
Speaker 1: do the job that we are using our tax dollars
Speaker 1: to pay them to do. Yeah, it's it comes down
Speaker 1: to power dynamics, right when you have the power, when
Speaker 1: you have the upper hand and you can use that power.
Speaker 1: Two commit crimes, you're going to and when you don't
Speaker 1: have power, when you are required to be fully selfless,
Speaker 1: to be brave, to be a protector, you're not going
Speaker 1: to do it. Because you got into the police force
Speaker 1: not to be brave. You got into the police force
Speaker 1: to have power. And we have continued in media entertainment
Speaker 1: two propagate the narrative that police officers are awesome and
Speaker 1: isn't it cool to be a cop? You know, you
Speaker 1: turn on chips in the seventies and it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: they get to wear sunglasses and red around on a motorcycle.
Speaker 1: Isn't that neat? Or like started to turn off Brooklyn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like this is the greatest job. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we don't see the heroism. That is the hallmark of
Speaker 1: selflessness is to give yourself for someone that you don't know,
Speaker 1: a stranger. That's what it should be about, is protecting people.
Speaker 1: But it is not about that. It is a It
Speaker 1: is a social club for people with no empathy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think another telling thing is like the more you
Speaker 1: dig into all of these points that we make, the
Speaker 1: more in city a sick gets like the number of
Speaker 1: you know, like cops get to the reason that there's
Speaker 1: so many cops shows is because of that um deal
Speaker 1: that they have where they you know, people can use
Speaker 1: cop precincts and things to like or you know, cop
Speaker 1: I want to say accessories, alts, but like cars, things
Speaker 1: like that in order to film and they can do
Speaker 1: it for free. It's like a deal with media. And
Speaker 1: in the same way that mainstream media in terms of
Speaker 1: reporting is on the cops side. They just take these
Speaker 1: police reports and run with them, despite knowing that they
Speaker 1: have over and over again whenever there's video, you know,
Speaker 1: and sometimes when there is video, they still lie about it,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like it's insane that they just
Speaker 1: get this freebie and this benefit of the doubt. And
Speaker 1: I will say that the people who do exhibit that
Speaker 1: selflessness and that visceral ability to sacrifice themselves and their
Speaker 1: lives to protect people are the ones fighting against cops.
Speaker 1: Like Roywood Jr. Just on the Daily Show, did an
Speaker 1: invest or, you know, a report about Cops City and
Speaker 1: the people who are organizing against Cops City and they're
Speaker 1: literally living in the forest, and you know, they have
Speaker 1: people have Tortunita, you know, was killed by an environmental activist,
Speaker 1: was killed by cops during the protests and or you know,
Speaker 1: trying to protect and prevent Cops City from being built
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and they're they're like literally living. All of
Speaker 1: those people are like literally living the forest. They've disguised
Speaker 1: their voices and their faces. They at any point to
Speaker 1: become victims to this iss them because we know to
Speaker 1: cops target people who protest against them, and that those
Speaker 1: people are like actually putting their lives on the line
Speaker 1: because they don't have you know, tanks and guns and everything,
Speaker 1: and they're literally going up in a fight against those
Speaker 1: people who do in order to protect the environment, protect
Speaker 1: the community, make sure a black and brown community isn't
Speaker 1: invaded by this insane training center, or that you know,
Speaker 1: cops aren't further militarized. It's it's wild how how the
Speaker 1: media paints those people crazy for actually standing up and
Speaker 1: doing something. After years you have these amazing underdog stories
Speaker 1: like built in to the reality, to the paradignamics of
Speaker 1: the civilization you're making media for, and you like still
Speaker 1: bend over backwards to like make stories that like center
Speaker 1: the police as the protagonist. It's it's fucked and just
Speaker 1: like it definitely doesn't make narrow of sense. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make for like good storytelling. But there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of inertia there. There's a lot of like institutional you know, inertia.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you get you get the cool you get
Speaker 1: to borrow police cars and drive around, run the siren
Speaker 1: on your movie or whatever. Accessories. I like it. They
Speaker 1: love accessories, the police. They're special with their little costumes.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be back
Speaker 1: to talk about some bullshit. And we're back, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if this is a huge development,
Speaker 1: but it feels like it could be, like the more
Speaker 1: the more I think about it. So Meta is welcoming
Speaker 1: Trump back onto, like they're going to allow him back
Speaker 1: on their platform because he asked, like his campaign petition,
Speaker 1: Meta to unblock his accounts and argued that the ban
Speaker 1: on him that happened on jan like after the January
Speaker 1: six attacks has they said, dramatically distorted and inhibited the
Speaker 1: public discourse, Which is wild because that's like a perfect
Speaker 1: description of what his presence on social media did for
Speaker 1: like all the years that he was the president essentially,
Speaker 1: and Meta just agreed, and we're like, oh, they asked,
Speaker 1: so we kind of got to let him back on.
Speaker 1: But they also announced that they have new guard rails
Speaker 1: in place, and according to Meta's vice president of global
Speaker 1: global Affairs, if Trump keeps posting violating content, it will
Speaker 1: be removed and he will be suspended again. He's literally
Speaker 1: doing that but on truth social right, Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: doesn't like that's the thing people are like, yo, we
Speaker 1: don't have to imagine what he's going to post. He
Speaker 1: just like created a like shadow land version of like
Speaker 1: social media, where he has continued to do the exact
Speaker 1: same thing, except now he is a full believer in
Speaker 1: the death cult that he is like the godhead of
Speaker 1: It's it's like really scary. That's like a big like
Speaker 1: things have not gotten better since he was banned. He
Speaker 1: like the he started doing those speeches with like the
Speaker 1: big orchestral like swelling music that like comes from the Q.
Speaker 1: And on soundtracks like he's like he's like Q. And
Speaker 1: on mix tapes that they were selling that are like
Speaker 1: very popular SoundCloud no like literally CDs that you can
Speaker 1: buy where they just like stole music from different places.
Speaker 1: But he like at one point, like this music starts
Speaker 1: swelling up, like as he was delivering a speech and
Speaker 1: it was like Q and on music, and his audience
Speaker 1: was like giving the Q salute. And they're like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, well, well we'll put a content warning if
Speaker 1: he's you know, like they're basically saying, and they also
Speaker 1: said for borderline posts and for rule breaking content that
Speaker 1: it deems newsworthy newsworthy, the posts will stay up, but
Speaker 1: Meta may also remove the reshare button for those posts
Speaker 1: or stop the post from being recommended. So he's literally
Speaker 1: allowed to violate their own content rules if it's newsworthy,
Speaker 1: which it is by definition because he is the former
Speaker 1: president who leads a death cult that like a terrifying
Speaker 1: percentage of the country believes it. But it's also so funny.
Speaker 1: They're like, if he does something newsworthy on our platform,
Speaker 1: which we are allowing him to do by letting him
Speaker 1: back on our platform, will allow it to stay up, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: just don't make him make news, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: It is both less like guard rail than a sneeze
Speaker 1: guard and also a little bit like trying to put
Speaker 1: guardrails on the Titanic as it's thinking like it's just
Speaker 1: so yeah, I also like I want to have a
Speaker 1: life where I have such influence that, like a billion
Speaker 1: dollar companies have to make special rules for me. You know,
Speaker 1: they have to let me in and make special rules
Speaker 1: because that's how hard I touched them. You know. It's
Speaker 1: a perfect storm of disaster because Trump is obviously flailing
Speaker 1: with this campaign so far. It's bizarre that he announced
Speaker 1: so quickly, but I imagine it was for the purposes
Speaker 1: of fundraising, because that's the number one drift of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's worlds, which is fundraising. And also meta Facebook is
Speaker 1: uh not a particularly relevant place for conversation anymore. That's
Speaker 1: when it feels like a death rattle for that platform.
Speaker 1: And so when they look at the numbers and they say, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're hemorrhaging money. Nobody cares about the metaverse.
Speaker 1: This is a complete waste of time, you know, places
Speaker 1: like TikTok or eating our lunch. What do we do
Speaker 1: but bring back Donald Trump because that ups engagement. He's
Speaker 1: gonna buy ads across the platform to reach the audience
Speaker 1: that he still has, which is primarily on places like Facebook.
Speaker 1: It worries me, like anything that Donald Trump does worries me,
Speaker 1: obviously because we lived through his presidency. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it does feel like one of these like
Speaker 1: kind of last ditch efforts on both sides to rescue
Speaker 1: the relevancy of things that were relevant a decade ago. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like the end of the Notebook where they hold
Speaker 1: hands and die together. But it's like the dark version
Speaker 1: of the true loves of like Insurrection and Creator. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's really sad to watch on both sides, Aids.
Speaker 1: And I at least have some kind of hope that
Speaker 1: because Facebook is already so desperately lame, that it will
Speaker 1: continue to wither away because of this decision. I yeah,
Speaker 1: I can totally see the internal argument and like how
Speaker 1: how was framed. I also have for a while now
Speaker 1: had my eye on Mark Zuckerberg as like the next
Speaker 1: big domino to fall in the like formerly center like
Speaker 1: mainstream media darlings to who like basically embrace open fascism
Speaker 1: because he's got all the ingredient, Like he behaves like
Speaker 1: a fascist while still saying the right things for the
Speaker 1: most part, so that that's like one symptom that he's
Speaker 1: going to ultimately just come out of fascist. He's been
Speaker 1: like vilified by the sort of neoliberal mainstream that used
Speaker 1: to like think he was pretty cool. So he probably
Speaker 1: like feels very hurt by that because he was like
Speaker 1: getting something from that before and then it went away.
Speaker 1: And he's also a billionaire and is like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's either realized that like having that much money is
Speaker 1: basically a crime at this point because of like all
Speaker 1: the problems that are facing the world, or you become
Speaker 1: a fascist and like embrace one of the many philosophies
Speaker 1: that are like available to you that allow you to
Speaker 1: you know, just be like and it turns out I
Speaker 1: am the hero of this narrative. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg is pretty pathetic. Oh he's he's too much
Speaker 1: of a weasel. I just think he's too much of
Speaker 1: a weasel to ever really be popular in those circles.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the charisma or the shamelessness
Speaker 1: of the truly successful fascists out there. Elon Musk is
Speaker 1: a perfect example of a guy who's just like I'm
Speaker 1: desperate for attention. I don't think Mark Zuckerberg wants attention.
Speaker 1: I think he eats some sort of white gruel paste
Speaker 1: every morning and powers up and then powers down before
Speaker 1: bed and doesn't really have any sort of understanding of
Speaker 1: human nature or what you know people think about him.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I just think he's like an alien,
Speaker 1: and so I think he does. Okay, I think he
Speaker 1: does want attention. Otherwise, why would he leak that sweet
Speaker 1: martial arts video that made us all so thirsty? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like he's not doing
Speaker 1: it the way Elon Musk is. Elon Musk is like,
Speaker 1: please love me under like everyone every right wing person's tweets,
Speaker 1: And actually I think I'm pretty funny. So yeah, interesting, interesting,
Speaker 1: But I look at He's never once uttered that he
Speaker 1: thinks people are pathetic. But I think like Zuckerberg is
Speaker 1: not looking to come out at a Dave Chappelle's show.
Speaker 1: I think Zuckerberg is like, I'll just be like, you know,
Speaker 1: like the nerdy, nice guy that like people overlook but
Speaker 1: like I'm like getting totally ripped. I'm working on my
Speaker 1: tan on this, like but like what is it? What
Speaker 1: did he do? Like windsurfing thing? You know, He's just
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be like the cool billionaire you know
Speaker 1: that doesn't go through a divorce. You know, I think
Speaker 1: he still wants to be liked but but not in
Speaker 1: the same way that Elon Musk. Not in the same way. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going to be posting feet on the racial chats
Speaker 1: and that's what he's gonna do. Yeah. I feel like
Speaker 1: the Winkl Lost Twins would have been more overt with it,
Speaker 1: you know, more of that charisma you're like, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if the Winkl Lost Twins had won, that we would
Speaker 1: all be like in prison camps now. Yeah. So anyways,
Speaker 1: another big indicator, like as Dave you you mentioned, like
Speaker 1: they Trump and his campaign entities have spent a hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty seven million dollars on meta since like that
Speaker 1: was between ten and like when he was banned. So
Speaker 1: he he's the number one political ad buyer and there's
Speaker 1: a reason for that. Those ads are super fucking targeted
Speaker 1: and really good at reaching people, and you know, you
Speaker 1: can spread Like I think one of the ads that
Speaker 1: got banned was like him using Nazi like imagery in
Speaker 1: his ads and they're like, whoa, that's that's a bridge
Speaker 1: too far, and he's like, well, I've been I've used
Speaker 1: it across a hundred ads, Like what is what is that?
Speaker 1: Like that email interaction, like you know when you like
Speaker 1: violate a Twitter it's like terms of service or whatever.
Speaker 1: And they're like, hey, Paula be we're worried about your
Speaker 1: mental health. Like OK, and you're like, appeal, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill myself just not now, you know. But like what
Speaker 1: do they do that? Like does he get an email
Speaker 1: that's like, hey, it violates community guidelines that you said
Speaker 1: you love Nazis And he's like, I'm gonna appeal this.
Speaker 1: I did say that, and it is on you out,
Speaker 1: but I am going to appeal this, you know, Like
Speaker 1: how does that work? Yeah? Since what is love not
Speaker 1: part of the terms of service? Oh, that's against the
Speaker 1: term disservice to love something organized community? You know, we
Speaker 1: just have a little group. We get together and we
Speaker 1: light a pyre and uh, we march around for a
Speaker 1: little bit. What's the problem. And in the case of
Speaker 1: you know, using Nazi imagery but doing doing it well
Speaker 1: paying Facebook, the thing that needs to happen is that
Speaker 1: like a bunch of people have to call it out
Speaker 1: in the media two for them too then be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we really hate to do this. And then there's probably
Speaker 1: some like really like glad handy emails back and forth
Speaker 1: being like oh guys, uh, this is probably a mistake
Speaker 1: and totally you know, well intentioned, but you've been using
Speaker 1: Nazi symbolism in your ads constantly pause like you have
Speaker 1: finish in your teeth, But Nazi symbolism in your ad
Speaker 1: will give days to get back to us on this one.
Speaker 1: It really is like like up to the advertisers to
Speaker 1: pull out you know, like and those people aren't gonna
Speaker 1: do it unless there's outrage with you know, like this citizens.
Speaker 1: You know, like unless there's outrage with the people. So
Speaker 1: it's it takes like a it's a whole like tiered
Speaker 1: thing of like, Okay, we have to like threaten the advertisers,
Speaker 1: to threaten these social media giants to get you know,
Speaker 1: these fucking hate speech off off in front of our screens. Well,
Speaker 1: this is the problem that most people will never see
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's exact targeted to the people that it
Speaker 1: will work most effectively on. Yes, the algorithm knows you're
Speaker 1: really going to like this imagery from Triumph of the Will,
Speaker 1: so we're going to feed it to you so I
Speaker 1: will never see it. I'm not on Facebook, so I'm
Speaker 1: not even interacting with people who have seen it, which
Speaker 1: means that there is a whole their ecosystem, there's a
Speaker 1: whole other world where this stuff is being pumped into
Speaker 1: your brain. And that's the thing that I find the
Speaker 1: most insidious about Facebook. If Mark Zuckerberg tomorrow said, uh
Speaker 1: that he thinks that Jewish people but he is Jewish,
Speaker 1: if Jewish people were terrible and need need to be
Speaker 1: put into camps, that might be better for the world,
Speaker 1: because then we would be able to say this is bad.
Speaker 1: One of the great things about Elon Musk is that
Speaker 1: he is so terrible at his job, which is the
Speaker 1: figurehead of a company, that we can all point to
Speaker 1: the stupid stuff that he says. We can all look
Speaker 1: at how right wing and and hateful he really is
Speaker 1: deep down. You can't do that with Mark Zuckerberg. You
Speaker 1: can't do that with Facebook or Meta or whatever the
Speaker 1: company is called now because it is it treats itself
Speaker 1: as completely politically neutral. It says, we don't believe in
Speaker 1: any of the things that are on our platform. We
Speaker 1: take no responsibility for what is on our platform. We
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to the shareholders. We have a responsibility
Speaker 1: to make money, and so that allows them to whitewash
Speaker 1: everything and you can seem banal, it can seem non threatening.
Speaker 1: It can be oh, we're not called Facebook anymore now
Speaker 1: we're called Meta and we have this metaverse. And actually
Speaker 1: this company is really exciting, and it's about community. It's
Speaker 1: not about community. It's about propaganda foisted onto people, paid propaganda,
Speaker 1: which is the worst thing because the people with the
Speaker 1: most money have the most access to the megaphone. That's
Speaker 1: scary to me. Scarier than him being a right wing guy,
Speaker 1: is him being just completely focused on money. That is true,
Speaker 1: And but I think like one of the things, well
Speaker 1: a few different things, like the metrics don't even prove
Speaker 1: that their neutral beyond like the theory of like, oh
Speaker 1: saying all of this hate speech versus we want to
Speaker 1: feed and house and educate people. That's it helps not neutral,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if you look at
Speaker 1: the two sides of it. But in addition to that,
Speaker 1: the metrics show that like you know, the like right
Speaker 1: wing posts are being shown to more people and like
Speaker 1: a more targeted a way, and like people on the
Speaker 1: left are like don't have their posts like promoted as
Speaker 1: as well, I guess, or even like suppressed sometimes I
Speaker 1: think they had like a news story on that, like
Speaker 1: within the last year. But oh yeah, I mean reality
Speaker 1: is different from perception. Yeah, reality is what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: The perception is or Facebook, it's a place photos of
Speaker 1: your kitty. And so as long as the perception remains neutral,
Speaker 1: people will not be upset the way that they should
Speaker 1: be the way that they're upset about Twitter, because it
Speaker 1: is out in the open and it says this is
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be. So I want them to
Speaker 1: be more about out front, up front about it. I
Speaker 1: want them to be saying these things and being clear
Speaker 1: about what this platform is for. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: the same back to the cops, right, It's all about
Speaker 1: branding and perception, all right. Well, Dave, truly a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you on the show. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? All that good stuff? Oh boy? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: still on Twitter. I hate to say it, but I'm
Speaker 1: still there because I don't know what else to do
Speaker 1: with my life. I'm at Dave Underscore Shilling for the
Speaker 1: time being. You can follow me on Instagram at d
Speaker 1: W Shilling if you want to see pictures of my son,
Speaker 1: which is uh. I guess I should probably start deleting those.
Speaker 1: I don't want people following him around And uh I,
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm still writing for the only time,
Speaker 1: So if you have style, interests, needs, curiosity, please read
Speaker 1: me in the only times. There you go. And is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some other work of media social
Speaker 1: media that you've been enjoying. Oh boy, I'll go back
Speaker 1: to the Whale. And anytime somebody posts a photo of
Speaker 1: him on the zoom in the movie teaching his class,
Speaker 1: a kind of a kind of chuckle, not because he
Speaker 1: is playing a larger person, but because of how ridiculous
Speaker 1: the makeup is and the faces that he makes in
Speaker 1: this film. It feels like Dick Tracy sometimes. So anytime
Speaker 1: there's a meme with Brendan Fraser in The Whale in it,
Speaker 1: I will laugh. I don't have one in particular. I
Speaker 1: just love the fact that they did this movie, that
Speaker 1: the makeup is nominated for an oscar and he looks
Speaker 1: like a cartoon man. Yeah, that's Aaron off, that is. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's sort of kind of a sibling to the Fountain
Speaker 1: in a way. I think if you like The Fountain,
Speaker 1: you might like this movie way less science fiction in
Speaker 1: The Whale. Sadly, there's no spaceships or time travel in
Speaker 1: this one. But yeah, he's a I like a lot
Speaker 1: of his movies that did. The Wrestler is probably his
Speaker 1: best film. But he is not a subtle guy. Is
Speaker 1: not a subtle movie. The subtlety of re Quiem for
Speaker 1: a Dream. Yeah, he just gets a big double into
Speaker 1: dildo and wax you over the head of as he says, anyway,
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to depart by
Speaker 1: saying one more time, people are amazing play where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? And is there a work
Speaker 1: of media that you've been enjoying, um, Paula Deganalen everywhere
Speaker 1: And I've been watching Okay, so I do have a tweet,
Speaker 1: But I have been watching a lot of like nineties
Speaker 1: movies like and a lot of like you know, like
Speaker 1: Julia Roberts he rant. I'm going to go back into
Speaker 1: Brendan fit Fraser's catalog. But I just watched Boomerang for
Speaker 1: the first time, like nineties eighties stuff, and uh, I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I mean, sure, it's hella homophobic and transphobic,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's something that I had to turn my
Speaker 1: at off for whenever watching anything from comedians of that time,
Speaker 1: but for those comedians of that time. But I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the rest of the movie if I, you know, blacked
Speaker 1: out that part. The one tweet that I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about. Okay, So Chris D'Elia posted on his
Speaker 1: Instagram or something his ugly ask face and then he
Speaker 1: said catch Chris d'lia in New York on February eighteen.
Speaker 1: And then my friend Mohanned al Hiki el Shaky m
Speaker 1: O h A m A D E L s h
Speaker 1: I E K Y posted that screenshot and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope they do catch you. You know, I hate
Speaker 1: these rapists, y'all get them off the streets. Chris Hansen
Speaker 1: descends from the ceiling, yeah, from from to Catch a Predator.
Speaker 1: You guys remember that, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, when he
Speaker 1: would descend from from the ceiling, they definitely should have
Speaker 1: done that. W W your style, Yeah, just like the
Speaker 1: guys like Batman crashing through he brought for his child victim,
Speaker 1: and like Chris what's his name like descends slowly from yeah,
Speaker 1: behind him. I've been enjoying just some tweets, some simple
Speaker 1: statements that have been tweeted out by celebrities. Yesterday, I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the Sandra Bullock tweeted, I was so scared when
Speaker 1: we were making gravity and then up there in space
Speaker 1: so much I was like, I love I've been watching
Speaker 1: her movies. I love her. Yeah, I do too, She's
Speaker 1: so good in the Lost City. What a what a star?
Speaker 1: Whis Khalifa just tweeted, I'm just starting to realize how
Speaker 1: funny the granddad from the Simpsons is. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: retweeted that that's good stuff. Loved it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been thirty years, but my man finally came around
Speaker 1: to big. Too many Abe haters out there. Yeah. Abe
Speaker 1: was one of the best Simpsons characters of all. Yeah, truly,
Speaker 1: So that's some of my favorite that gift of him,
Speaker 1: like walking in the time backing into the bushes, might
Speaker 1: be my two favorite Simpsons get like and not Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not like and I These are my secret favorites.
Speaker 1: Those are probably also the two most popular ones. They're
Speaker 1: two most commonly used, but they're used for a reason.
Speaker 1: They're both solid, beautiful and also. Rigottresh tweeted, what is
Speaker 1: a good male acting performance where he is bored at?
Speaker 1: Which is? Did you pick the original? I mean I
Speaker 1: picked the TV show. Actually, do people know about the
Speaker 1: HBO TV show where he was boring Ali g show? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like people that was where it all started. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, But like, do I feel like that's due
Speaker 1: for like young people being like you on TikTok It
Speaker 1: just becomes a dance trend, like the new Seinfelder Friends
Speaker 1: or The Office. I do think that like a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know where, Like I have been rewatching
Speaker 1: Seinfeld and have not realized like how many pop culture
Speaker 1: references come from that show, And so I feel like
Speaker 1: people are starting are probably they're probably a lot of
Speaker 1: young people who are like my wife and have no
Speaker 1: idea why they're saying. You know, there's there's a whole
Speaker 1: legion of people who were like, did you see the
Speaker 1: Frasier from the show Frasier was on a show about
Speaker 1: a bar? Oh my god, so we're seeing him drink beer.
Speaker 1: It makes me happy. They shouldn't know everything, you know,
Speaker 1: Let them know what they know now and then you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm not one of the people who gets frustrated
Speaker 1: when they find out and they're like, have you heard
Speaker 1: of cheers? I'm not like, yes, you idiot, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm so happy that you're experiencing this. You've
Speaker 1: got all this time and you're not spending it watching
Speaker 1: old television shows. You absolute piece of ship. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can
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Speaker 1: post our episodes on our foot notes where we link
Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Super producer justin what is the song that you think
Speaker 1: people might enjoy? So I've just been listening to these
Speaker 1: short little TikTok songs that you know, pop up to
Speaker 1: like a minute and a half, and this one came
Speaker 1: across my radar. Uh. This is comedian and rappers Zach Box.
Speaker 1: He was on another show I work on. My mama
Speaker 1: told me Sipping my tea incredible song. There's like the
Speaker 1: jokes per second are astounding. It's it made me laugh
Speaker 1: like several times, and the beatast fires. So this is
Speaker 1: zack Box Sip in my Tea. And you can find
Speaker 1: that song in the footnotes. All right, thank you. Justin.
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