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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy three,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Dailies. I Geist, a production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Monday,

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Speaker 1: January thirty three. My name's Jack O'Brien. A K. I've

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Speaker 1: got plumper thighs. Look at these quads and you'll realize

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Speaker 1: I've got plumper thighs. Work in the legs for the day,

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Speaker 1: Lisa Geist. That is courtesy a right to post Little

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Speaker 1: Hungry Eyes. Eric Carmen, A K. I think we looked

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Speaker 1: up Eric Carman. He's like wild problematic at this point,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'll fact fact checking on that internet. Eric.

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Speaker 1: Eric Cartman, he's very problematic. Oh that's right. They made

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Speaker 1: a they made a character about him. Misunderstood. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: sick of cancel culture sped that kid's parents to him.

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Speaker 1: But other than that, I feel like you preaty chilled Well.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in my second seat

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Speaker 1: by a hilarious and brilliant stand up comedian, writer, actor, improviser,

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Speaker 1: biomedical engineer. You can catch her on stages across this

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Speaker 1: great Land. It's my name yelled with the correct pronunciation.

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Speaker 1: Feels so good. It feels so great. It feels good.

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Speaker 1: Good on this side too. You've got a great name. Play.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you. You are filling him for Miles,

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Speaker 1: not just at the daily by guys, but just in

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Speaker 1: regular life. Yeah, I've been hired us his standard life standard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just needed a break, you know, he needed to

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Speaker 1: body bear for a minute. And now yeah killing it.

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Speaker 1: We got a brown person. It's all the same, right,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, are you six too sure? Yeah, Miles.

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Speaker 1: Miles is tall, and I'm always just surprised. Every time

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Speaker 1: I see him again for the first time in like

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I'm like, man, you are you

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Speaker 1: are a short man energy. He feels like a short person.

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Speaker 1: He should be. That's not true. It's because he's approachable.

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Speaker 1: He's like secure with himself, you know, so he I

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Speaker 1: don't know he has you know, I don't know. He

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Speaker 1: just has the energy of somebody who is not defined

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Speaker 1: by their height. And then when you see him, it

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Speaker 1: takes a moment to be like, oh, you are taller

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Speaker 1: than most people. Yeah, anyways, Dave, I'm not allowing you

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Speaker 1: to cast dispersions on my comment about Miles being a tall,

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Speaker 1: a tall gentleman. Dave's here to start drama. I'm tall too,

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Speaker 1: I think. No, I don't believe that at all. I'm

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Speaker 1: seven to the same height as Karen Abdul Jabar. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not just kidding. I have I also have short

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Speaker 1: man energy. That's why I bring it up. I can

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Speaker 1: feel the camaraderie between me and Miles and we hang out. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: that third voice you keep hearing is someone We're through

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Speaker 1: it to be joined by a very talented, brighter, humorous

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Speaker 1: podcast host whose work you've seen in the l A Times, Guardian,

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Speaker 1: New Yorker, if you've ever heard of that periodical publication

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Speaker 1: New York Magazine. You've read him at all of those

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Speaker 1: places because you're extremely well read. Yes, I've been everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I've been everywhere. Man, He's the consummate podcast host, podcast guest,

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Speaker 1: professional wrestling expert. Please welcome the hilarious, the fashionable, the

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Speaker 1: brilliant Dave Chili. This is how we're talking to each

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Speaker 1: other the whole episode. We are so far away not

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Speaker 1: being the loudest person on a podcast that never happens

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Speaker 1: to me, I was taught to project. When I went

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Speaker 1: to podcast college, they said, you is your outside voice

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Speaker 1: hit the back of the room with extreme prejudice. It

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Speaker 1: was hard for me to shake that that directive from

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Speaker 1: from elementary school, where it's like user inside six inch voices,

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Speaker 1: not six ft voices. But when you become a professional podcaster,

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Speaker 1: you've got to use that six ft voice. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: gotta get out there. That's six ft two voice, just

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Speaker 1: like Miles Gray six two. Yeah, that's yeah, exactly. The

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Speaker 1: extreme prejudice reaching the back of the podcast room is

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Speaker 1: just all the slurs of podcasters normally. That's right. That's

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Speaker 1: how some podcasters hit that back of the room with

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Speaker 1: extreme prejudice. It's a hard our syndrome. That's where they

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Speaker 1: keep the minorities in the back of the room. So

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Speaker 1: all right, well, Dave, we're gonna get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. Paul, we might

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Speaker 1: a moment. First, for you to tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: couple of the things that we're talking about. We're recording

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Speaker 1: this on Friday. I don't believe they have released the

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Speaker 1: video of the police murder in Memphis. But we do

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Speaker 1: have a story about who those police officers where they

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Trump's return to Meta. They're they're welcoming

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Speaker 1: to any of that, Dave, we do like to ask

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Speaker 1: our guest, and you may know this, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 1: I recently googled Martini glasses, specifically Nick and No glasses

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Speaker 1: because I broke one in the sink and I'm a

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Speaker 1: big Martini drinker, and I found a set of four

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Speaker 1: from the Museum of Modern Art in New York's website.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why the moment is selling Martini glasses.

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Speaker 1: They have like a whole like home goods store connected

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Speaker 1: of fucked up that they're horning in on Ikea and

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Speaker 1: Targets the whole thing. Like, I don't think Target's gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna start getting sculptures from Damien

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Speaker 1: Hurst at Ikea. This is not appropriate. Let's still dare you.

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Speaker 1: The art at Ikea is incredible and magnificent, and I

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Speaker 1: could stare at it for hours getting lost there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying. I get that, but I'm

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Speaker 1: Do they have magic guy paintings at Ikea? What is

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Speaker 1: the art at Ikea? That? That actually is a really

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Speaker 1: like they're on the same way, like a black and

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Speaker 1: white photo of a guitar trying everywhere I'm there's like live,

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Speaker 1: that does feel like a little bit outside of IKEA's

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Speaker 1: looking there's a Sander Patelski photograph of a pool, so

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Speaker 1: like they have like I'm sure they have like somebody

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Speaker 1: who has good tastes like buying art for them at Ikea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're just doing on this person. You know. Basically the

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Speaker 1: say that that Lincoln Berry sauce is artistic. It is

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Speaker 1: an expression of humanity's greatest achievement. In my Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Cheesecake Factory menu being like the thing that will be

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Speaker 1: remembered from American, like America's contribution to like civilization. They'll

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Speaker 1: it's the experience. It's performance art. It engages the audience.

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Speaker 1: spiritual leader. What is something, Dave? The thing is overrated?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, okay, this is definitely not No, those meatballs

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Speaker 1: because this is Oscar season. There's a lot of controversy

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Speaker 1: So something that is under or overrated is what we're

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Speaker 1: starting with, right, Okay, an overrated movie that I saw

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Speaker 1: I'm spoiling anything, but at the end, he's got a kid, right,

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Speaker 1: He's he's had he had sex once, Black Panther had

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Speaker 1: better than like the antagonist from that Esop's fable, the

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00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: about of you know someone who yeah, it's a Mortal

423
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: Kombat character. It's the thing that like the person in

424
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: the substa will trust for one second and they're like,

425
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: what what the fund did you expect? And I don't

426
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: know it. Just we've gotten a lot of really hard

427
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: to refute evidence that maybe the police are a bad

428
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: idea over the past year. We're going to keep getting it.

429
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: And just the way that the mainstream media metabolizes this

430
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: evidence is the problem, like it or it's a huge

431
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: part of the problem, Like they don't stop and look

432
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: at it often enough. The cops in the subway shooting,

433
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: like running away from danger and telling people close by

434
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: to call nine one one was just echoed by a

435
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 1: video where someone fell onto the subway tracks and a

436
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: bunch of citizens jumped down to lift them up to

437
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: safety while a cop stood on the side and like

438
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: waved his flashlight at any trains that might have been coming,

439
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: because you know, someone had to do that, but he

440
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: he picked the cush job in that scenario. He was

441
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: doing that so casually too. He was like taking breaks

442
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: and stuff, and like that was like, what is happening,

443
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: but it's as long as the mainstream media responds to

444
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: any So this Scorpion Task Force was a response to

445
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: murder rates in Memphis going up after the pandem and

446
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: the way that that you know, rise in crime was

447
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: covered by the mainstream media was a fucking crime in

448
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: and of itself when when you actually go back and

449
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: look like people actually did the work to see what

450
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: was happening, and they found that a lot of these programs,

451
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: these social programs and and public schools were frozen for

452
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: a long period of time, and those are things that

453
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: are there to keep people doing things as a community

454
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: and you know, interacting and doing productive things. And when

455
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: those things all stopped, there was a rise in the

456
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Speaker 1: murder rate. And the mainstream ideas analysis of the rise

457
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: of the murder rate was that the police feelings were

458
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: hurt and that's why there was a rise of the

459
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Speaker 1: murder rate. Like that is ultimately what their version came

460
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: down to, because like any that, they also said that

461
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: it was because they got defunded, which didn't happen, Like

462
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: any defunding was ultimately minimal. So I don't know, I

463
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: just as we're experiencing the coming news cycle, like I

464
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: just want to be conscious of the fact that we

465
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: this is going to start a new conversation about defunding

466
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Speaker 1: the police, and it's going to be treated as or

467
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: what what else? What else could we possibly do? You know,

468
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: we this is the only thing that we have is

469
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: creating these like task forces that are like the troop

470
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: surges in Iraq, like where they just like send people

471
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: in to be like extra violent and send extra people

472
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: in and like fund extra fund the police. And it's like,

473
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to keep in mind, like that

474
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: is not what the data says, that's not what any

475
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: of the evidence suggests works. And we have like so

476
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: we're just being fucking bombarded with evidence constantly that that's

477
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: the case, like policing, doubling down on policing doesn't fucking work.

478
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: And that's like it's disgusting, it's really sickening that it

479
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: feels like George Floyd died. We went through everything that

480
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: summer trying to like defund the police, and now they've

481
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: just taken this narrative and said that we have when

482
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: we haven't, and that that's why, you know, it's like

483
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the right being like, oh, this

484
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: is what the world has come to, and you're like, yeah,

485
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: this is what capitalism has made the world. You can't

486
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: just say it's socialism, you know, you can't just say

487
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: that it's the opposite of what it is, because like

488
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: the numbers do speak to the fact that funding police

489
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: actually causes more violence. It raises like crime rates when

490
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the NYPD was on strike, prime rates fell in other

491
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Speaker 1: in other cities, and like you know, in Massachusetts, I

492
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: think there was like a police station that was like

493
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: disbanded and crime rates fell. Like it all points to

494
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: defunding the police and funding social services as actually stopping

495
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: like violence. If you want to stop like people from dying,

496
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: you cannot fund a cops city in Atlanta. You cannot

497
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: fund all of these so called like training organizations or

498
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: military militarized the police and have no repercussions. Because the

499
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: reason they're acting like this, the reason that they're able to,

500
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, kill black people, unarmed people on the street

501
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: or even in their homes, like with that disabled man

502
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: that happened like recently, he came out with his hands

503
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: up and they shot him as soon as he opened

504
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: the door. The reason that they're acting like this is

505
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: because they have those, and I have tanks, and they

506
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Speaker 1: have gangs as just in you know from Knock l

507
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Speaker 1: A about the l A p D. You know, like

508
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: they have the protection of a system and if you

509
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: keep funneling money into it, they're never gonna stop. This

510
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: is this is domestic terrorism, That's what this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

511
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's really important to talk about

512
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: all the times when police officers don't do what they're

513
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Right, think the subway guy. You know,

514
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: where's the bravery, where is the where were the brave

515
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: police officers in Uvaldi? They wouldn't is a great example. Yeah,

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00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: that I should have included. I mean, I mean they

517
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: there was a Supreme Court case that justified that they

518
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Speaker 1: do not have to prevent crime or like act when

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00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: crime is happening. That's why that Parkland officer was allowed

520
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: to run away with like no repercussions. They that is

521
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: not their job. They are protected by law to not

522
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: do the job that we are using our tax dollars

523
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: to pay them to do. Yeah, it's it comes down

524
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: to power dynamics, right when you have the power, when

525
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: you have the upper hand and you can use that power.

526
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Two commit crimes, you're going to and when you don't

527
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: have power, when you are required to be fully selfless,

528
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: to be brave, to be a protector, you're not going

529
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: to do it. Because you got into the police force

530
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: not to be brave. You got into the police force

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00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: to have power. And we have continued in media entertainment

532
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: two propagate the narrative that police officers are awesome and

533
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: isn't it cool to be a cop? You know, you

534
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: turn on chips in the seventies and it's like, wow,

535
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: they get to wear sunglasses and red around on a motorcycle.

536
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that neat? Or like started to turn off Brooklyn. Yeah,

537
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: and it's like this is the greatest job. Yeah, but

538
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: we don't see the heroism. That is the hallmark of

539
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: selflessness is to give yourself for someone that you don't know,

540
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: a stranger. That's what it should be about, is protecting people.

541
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: But it is not about that. It is a It

542
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: is a social club for people with no empathy. Yeah.

543
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: I think another telling thing is like the more you

544
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: dig into all of these points that we make, the

545
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: more in city a sick gets like the number of

546
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, like cops get to the reason that there's

547
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: so many cops shows is because of that um deal

548
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: that they have where they you know, people can use

549
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: cop precincts and things to like or you know, cop

550
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: I want to say accessories, alts, but like cars, things

551
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: like that in order to film and they can do

552
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: it for free. It's like a deal with media. And

553
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: in the same way that mainstream media in terms of

554
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: reporting is on the cops side. They just take these

555
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 1: police reports and run with them, despite knowing that they

556
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: have over and over again whenever there's video, you know,

557
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and sometimes when there is video, they still lie about it,

558
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like it's insane that they just

559
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: get this freebie and this benefit of the doubt. And

560
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: I will say that the people who do exhibit that

561
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: selflessness and that visceral ability to sacrifice themselves and their

562
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: lives to protect people are the ones fighting against cops.

563
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Like Roywood Jr. Just on the Daily Show, did an

564
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: invest or, you know, a report about Cops City and

565
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: the people who are organizing against Cops City and they're

566
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: literally living in the forest, and you know, they have

567
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: people have Tortunita, you know, was killed by an environmental activist,

568
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: was killed by cops during the protests and or you know,

569
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: trying to protect and prevent Cops City from being built

570
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and they're they're like literally living. All of

571
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: those people are like literally living the forest. They've disguised

572
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: their voices and their faces. They at any point to

573
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: become victims to this iss them because we know to

574
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: cops target people who protest against them, and that those

575
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: people are like actually putting their lives on the line

576
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: because they don't have you know, tanks and guns and everything,

577
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: and they're literally going up in a fight against those

578
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: people who do in order to protect the environment, protect

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Speaker 1: the community, make sure a black and brown community isn't

580
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: invaded by this insane training center, or that you know,

581
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: cops aren't further militarized. It's it's wild how how the

582
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: media paints those people crazy for actually standing up and

583
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: doing something. After years you have these amazing underdog stories

584
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: like built in to the reality, to the paradignamics of

585
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: the civilization you're making media for, and you like still

586
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: bend over backwards to like make stories that like center

587
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: the police as the protagonist. It's it's fucked and just

588
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: like it definitely doesn't make narrow of sense. It doesn't

589
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: make for like good storytelling. But there's just a lot

590
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: of inertia there. There's a lot of like institutional you know, inertia.

591
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: And yeah, you get you get the cool you get

592
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: to borrow police cars and drive around, run the siren

593
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: on your movie or whatever. Accessories. I like it. They

594
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: love accessories, the police. They're special with their little costumes.

595
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be back

596
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: to talk about some bullshit. And we're back, and I

597
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if this is a huge development,

598
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: but it feels like it could be, like the more

599
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: the more I think about it. So Meta is welcoming

600
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Trump back onto, like they're going to allow him back

601
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: on their platform because he asked, like his campaign petition,

602
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 1: Meta to unblock his accounts and argued that the ban

603
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: on him that happened on jan like after the January

604
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: six attacks has they said, dramatically distorted and inhibited the

605
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: public discourse, Which is wild because that's like a perfect

606
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: description of what his presence on social media did for

607
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: like all the years that he was the president essentially,

608
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: and Meta just agreed, and we're like, oh, they asked,

609
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: so we kind of got to let him back on.

610
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: But they also announced that they have new guard rails

611
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: in place, and according to Meta's vice president of global

612
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: global Affairs, if Trump keeps posting violating content, it will

613
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: be removed and he will be suspended again. He's literally

614
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: doing that but on truth social right, Yeah, he just

615
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: doesn't like that's the thing people are like, yo, we

616
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: don't have to imagine what he's going to post. He

617
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: just like created a like shadow land version of like

618
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: social media, where he has continued to do the exact

619
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: same thing, except now he is a full believer in

620
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: the death cult that he is like the godhead of

621
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: It's it's like really scary. That's like a big like

622
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: things have not gotten better since he was banned. He

623
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: like the he started doing those speeches with like the

624
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: big orchestral like swelling music that like comes from the Q.

625
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: And on soundtracks like he's like he's like Q. And

626
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: on mix tapes that they were selling that are like

627
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: very popular SoundCloud no like literally CDs that you can

628
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: buy where they just like stole music from different places.

629
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: But he like at one point, like this music starts

630
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: swelling up, like as he was delivering a speech and

631
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: it was like Q and on music, and his audience

632
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: was like giving the Q salute. And they're like, yeah, well,

633
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, well, well we'll put a content warning if

634
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: he's you know, like they're basically saying, and they also

635
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: said for borderline posts and for rule breaking content that

636
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Speaker 1: it deems newsworthy newsworthy, the posts will stay up, but

637
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Meta may also remove the reshare button for those posts

638
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: or stop the post from being recommended. So he's literally

639
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: allowed to violate their own content rules if it's newsworthy,

640
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: which it is by definition because he is the former

641
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: president who leads a death cult that like a terrifying

642
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: percentage of the country believes it. But it's also so funny.

643
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: They're like, if he does something newsworthy on our platform,

644
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: which we are allowing him to do by letting him

645
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: back on our platform, will allow it to stay up, Like, bro,

646
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: just don't make him make news, Like what are you doing?

647
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: It is both less like guard rail than a sneeze

648
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: guard and also a little bit like trying to put

649
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: guardrails on the Titanic as it's thinking like it's just

650
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, I also like I want to have a

651
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: life where I have such influence that, like a billion

652
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: dollar companies have to make special rules for me. You know,

653
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: they have to let me in and make special rules

654
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: because that's how hard I touched them. You know. It's

655
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: a perfect storm of disaster because Trump is obviously flailing

656
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: with this campaign so far. It's bizarre that he announced

657
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: so quickly, but I imagine it was for the purposes

658
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: of fundraising, because that's the number one drift of Donald

659
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: Trump's worlds, which is fundraising. And also meta Facebook is

660
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: uh not a particularly relevant place for conversation anymore. That's

661
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: when it feels like a death rattle for that platform.

662
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: And so when they look at the numbers and they say, oh,

663
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're hemorrhaging money. Nobody cares about the metaverse.

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Speaker 1: This is a complete waste of time, you know, places

665
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: like TikTok or eating our lunch. What do we do

666
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: but bring back Donald Trump because that ups engagement. He's

667
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna buy ads across the platform to reach the audience

668
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: that he still has, which is primarily on places like Facebook.

669
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: It worries me, like anything that Donald Trump does worries me,

670
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: obviously because we lived through his presidency. But at the

671
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: same time, it does feel like one of these like

672
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of last ditch efforts on both sides to rescue

673
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: the relevancy of things that were relevant a decade ago. Right,

674
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: It's like the end of the Notebook where they hold

675
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: hands and die together. But it's like the dark version

676
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: of the true loves of like Insurrection and Creator. You know, Yeah,

677
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: it's it's really sad to watch on both sides, Aids.

678
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: And I at least have some kind of hope that

679
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: because Facebook is already so desperately lame, that it will

680
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: continue to wither away because of this decision. I yeah,

681
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: I can totally see the internal argument and like how

682
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: how was framed. I also have for a while now

683
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: had my eye on Mark Zuckerberg as like the next

684
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: big domino to fall in the like formerly center like

685
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: mainstream media darlings to who like basically embrace open fascism

686
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: because he's got all the ingredient, Like he behaves like

687
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: a fascist while still saying the right things for the

688
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: most part, so that that's like one symptom that he's

689
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: going to ultimately just come out of fascist. He's been

690
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: like vilified by the sort of neoliberal mainstream that used

691
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: to like think he was pretty cool. So he probably

692
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: like feels very hurt by that because he was like

693
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: getting something from that before and then it went away.

694
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: And he's also a billionaire and is like, you know,

695
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: it's either realized that like having that much money is

696
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: basically a crime at this point because of like all

697
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: the problems that are facing the world, or you become

698
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: a fascist and like embrace one of the many philosophies

699
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: that are like available to you that allow you to

700
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, just be like and it turns out I

701
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: am the hero of this narrative. I don't I don't know.

702
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg is pretty pathetic. Oh he's he's too much

703
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: of a weasel. I just think he's too much of

704
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: a weasel to ever really be popular in those circles.

705
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the charisma or the shamelessness

706
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: of the truly successful fascists out there. Elon Musk is

707
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: a perfect example of a guy who's just like I'm

708
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: desperate for attention. I don't think Mark Zuckerberg wants attention.

709
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: I think he eats some sort of white gruel paste

710
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: every morning and powers up and then powers down before

711
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: bed and doesn't really have any sort of understanding of

712
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: human nature or what you know people think about him.

713
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I just think he's like an alien,

714
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: and so I think he does. Okay, I think he

715
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: does want attention. Otherwise, why would he leak that sweet

716
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: martial arts video that made us all so thirsty? You

717
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like he's not doing

718
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: it the way Elon Musk is. Elon Musk is like,

719
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: please love me under like everyone every right wing person's tweets,

720
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: And actually I think I'm pretty funny. So yeah, interesting, interesting,

721
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: But I look at He's never once uttered that he

722
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: thinks people are pathetic. But I think like Zuckerberg is

723
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: not looking to come out at a Dave Chappelle's show.

724
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: I think Zuckerberg is like, I'll just be like, you know,

725
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: like the nerdy, nice guy that like people overlook but

726
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: like I'm like getting totally ripped. I'm working on my

727
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: tan on this, like but like what is it? What

728
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: did he do? Like windsurfing thing? You know, He's just

729
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be like the cool billionaire you know

730
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't go through a divorce. You know, I think

731
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: he still wants to be liked but but not in

732
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: the same way that Elon Musk. Not in the same way. Now, yeah,

733
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: he's going to be posting feet on the racial chats

734
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: and that's what he's gonna do. Yeah. I feel like

735
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: the Winkl Lost Twins would have been more overt with it,

736
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: you know, more of that charisma you're like, but yeah, yeah,

737
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: if the Winkl Lost Twins had won, that we would

738
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: all be like in prison camps now. Yeah. So anyways,

739
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: another big indicator, like as Dave you you mentioned, like

740
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: they Trump and his campaign entities have spent a hundred

741
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: and fifty seven million dollars on meta since like that

742
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: was between ten and like when he was banned. So

743
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: he he's the number one political ad buyer and there's

744
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: a reason for that. Those ads are super fucking targeted

745
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: and really good at reaching people, and you know, you

746
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: can spread Like I think one of the ads that

747
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: got banned was like him using Nazi like imagery in

748
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: his ads and they're like, whoa, that's that's a bridge

749
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: too far, and he's like, well, I've been I've used

750
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: it across a hundred ads, Like what is what is that?

751
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: Like that email interaction, like you know when you like

752
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: violate a Twitter it's like terms of service or whatever.

753
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: And they're like, hey, Paula be we're worried about your

754
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: mental health. Like OK, and you're like, appeal, I'm gonna

755
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: kill myself just not now, you know. But like what

756
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: do they do that? Like does he get an email

757
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: that's like, hey, it violates community guidelines that you said

758
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: you love Nazis And he's like, I'm gonna appeal this.

759
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: I did say that, and it is on you out,

760
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: but I am going to appeal this, you know, Like

761
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: how does that work? Yeah? Since what is love not

762
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: part of the terms of service? Oh, that's against the

763
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: term disservice to love something organized community? You know, we

764
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: just have a little group. We get together and we

765
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: light a pyre and uh, we march around for a

766
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: little bit. What's the problem. And in the case of

767
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, using Nazi imagery but doing doing it well

768
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: paying Facebook, the thing that needs to happen is that

769
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: like a bunch of people have to call it out

770
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: in the media two for them too then be like, oh,

771
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: we really hate to do this. And then there's probably

772
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: some like really like glad handy emails back and forth

773
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: being like oh guys, uh, this is probably a mistake

774
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: and totally you know, well intentioned, but you've been using

775
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: Nazi symbolism in your ads constantly pause like you have

776
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: finish in your teeth, But Nazi symbolism in your ad

777
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: will give days to get back to us on this one.

778
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: It really is like like up to the advertisers to

779
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: pull out you know, like and those people aren't gonna

780
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: do it unless there's outrage with you know, like this citizens.

781
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: You know, like unless there's outrage with the people. So

782
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: it's it takes like a it's a whole like tiered

783
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: thing of like, Okay, we have to like threaten the advertisers,

784
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: to threaten these social media giants to get you know,

785
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: these fucking hate speech off off in front of our screens. Well,

786
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: this is the problem that most people will never see

787
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's exact targeted to the people that it

788
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: will work most effectively on. Yes, the algorithm knows you're

789
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: really going to like this imagery from Triumph of the Will,

790
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: so we're going to feed it to you so I

791
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: will never see it. I'm not on Facebook, so I'm

792
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: not even interacting with people who have seen it, which

793
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: means that there is a whole their ecosystem, there's a

794
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: whole other world where this stuff is being pumped into

795
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: your brain. And that's the thing that I find the

796
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: most insidious about Facebook. If Mark Zuckerberg tomorrow said, uh

797
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: that he thinks that Jewish people but he is Jewish,

798
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: if Jewish people were terrible and need need to be

799
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: put into camps, that might be better for the world,

800
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: because then we would be able to say this is bad.

801
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: One of the great things about Elon Musk is that

802
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: he is so terrible at his job, which is the

803
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: figurehead of a company, that we can all point to

804
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: the stupid stuff that he says. We can all look

805
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: at how right wing and and hateful he really is

806
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: deep down. You can't do that with Mark Zuckerberg. You

807
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: can't do that with Facebook or Meta or whatever the

808
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: company is called now because it is it treats itself

809
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: as completely politically neutral. It says, we don't believe in

810
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: any of the things that are on our platform. We

811
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: take no responsibility for what is on our platform. We

812
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to the shareholders. We have a responsibility

813
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: to make money, and so that allows them to whitewash

814
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: everything and you can seem banal, it can seem non threatening.

815
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: It can be oh, we're not called Facebook anymore now

816
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: we're called Meta and we have this metaverse. And actually

817
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: this company is really exciting, and it's about community. It's

818
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: not about community. It's about propaganda foisted onto people, paid propaganda,

819
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: which is the worst thing because the people with the

820
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: most money have the most access to the megaphone. That's

821
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: scary to me. Scarier than him being a right wing guy,

822
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: is him being just completely focused on money. That is true,

823
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: And but I think like one of the things, well

824
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: a few different things, like the metrics don't even prove

825
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: that their neutral beyond like the theory of like, oh

826
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: saying all of this hate speech versus we want to

827
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Speaker 1: feed and house and educate people. That's it helps not neutral,

828
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if you look at

829
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: the two sides of it. But in addition to that,

830
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: the metrics show that like you know, the like right

831
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: wing posts are being shown to more people and like

832
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: a more targeted a way, and like people on the

833
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: left are like don't have their posts like promoted as

834
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: as well, I guess, or even like suppressed sometimes I

835
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: think they had like a news story on that, like

836
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: within the last year. But oh yeah, I mean reality

837
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: is different from perception. Yeah, reality is what you're talking about.

838
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: The perception is or Facebook, it's a place photos of

839
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: your kitty. And so as long as the perception remains neutral,

840
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: people will not be upset the way that they should

841
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: be the way that they're upset about Twitter, because it

842
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: is out in the open and it says this is

843
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be. So I want them to

844
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: be more about out front, up front about it. I

845
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: want them to be saying these things and being clear

846
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: about what this platform is for. I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 1: the same back to the cops, right, It's all about

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Speaker 1: branding and perception, all right. Well, Dave, truly a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you on the show. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: Follow you? All that good stuff? Oh boy? Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: still on Twitter. I hate to say it, but I'm

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Speaker 1: still there because I don't know what else to do

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Speaker 1: with my life. I'm at Dave Underscore Shilling for the

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Speaker 1: W Shilling if you want to see pictures of my son,

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Speaker 1: which is uh. I guess I should probably start deleting those.

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Speaker 1: I don't want people following him around And uh I,

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'm still writing for the only time,

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Speaker 1: So if you have style, interests, needs, curiosity, please read

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Speaker 1: me in the only times. There you go. And is

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Speaker 1: there a tweet or some other work of media social

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Speaker 1: media that you've been enjoying. Oh boy, I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to the Whale. And anytime somebody posts a photo of

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Speaker 1: him on the zoom in the movie teaching his class,

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Speaker 1: a kind of a kind of chuckle, not because he

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Speaker 1: is playing a larger person, but because of how ridiculous

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Speaker 1: the makeup is and the faces that he makes in

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Speaker 1: this film. It feels like Dick Tracy sometimes. So anytime

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Speaker 1: there's a meme with Brendan Fraser in The Whale in it,

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Speaker 1: I will laugh. I don't have one in particular. I

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Speaker 1: just love the fact that they did this movie, that

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Speaker 1: the makeup is nominated for an oscar and he looks

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Speaker 1: like a cartoon man. Yeah, that's Aaron off, that is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of kind of a sibling to the Fountain

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Speaker 1: in a way. I think if you like The Fountain,

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Speaker 1: you might like this movie way less science fiction in

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Speaker 1: The Whale. Sadly, there's no spaceships or time travel in

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Speaker 1: this one. But yeah, he's a I like a lot

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Speaker 1: of his movies that did. The Wrestler is probably his

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Speaker 1: best film. But he is not a subtle guy. Is

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Speaker 1: not a subtle movie. The subtlety of re Quiem for

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Speaker 1: a Dream. Yeah, he just gets a big double into

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Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to depart by

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Speaker 1: saying one more time, people are amazing play where can

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Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you? And is there a work

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Speaker 1: of media that you've been enjoying, um, Paula Deganalen everywhere

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Speaker 1: And I've been watching Okay, so I do have a tweet,

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Speaker 1: But I have been watching a lot of like nineties

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Speaker 1: Brendan fit Fraser's catalog. But I just watched Boomerang for

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Speaker 1: the first time, like nineties eighties stuff, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I mean, sure, it's hella homophobic and transphobic,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's something that I had to turn my

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Speaker 1: at off for whenever watching anything from comedians of that time,

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Speaker 1: but for those comedians of that time. But I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the rest of the movie if I, you know, blacked

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Speaker 1: out that part. The one tweet that I do want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Okay, So Chris D'Elia posted on his

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Speaker 1: Instagram or something his ugly ask face and then he

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Speaker 1: said catch Chris d'lia in New York on February eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I E K Y posted that screenshot and said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope they do catch you. You know, I hate

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Speaker 1: these rapists, y'all get them off the streets. Chris Hansen

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Speaker 1: descends from the ceiling, yeah, from from to Catch a Predator.

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Speaker 1: You guys remember that, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, when he

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Speaker 1: would descend from from the ceiling, they definitely should have

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Speaker 1: done that. W W your style, Yeah, just like the

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Speaker 1: guys like Batman crashing through he brought for his child victim,

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Speaker 1: and like Chris what's his name like descends slowly from yeah,

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Speaker 1: behind him. I've been enjoying just some tweets, some simple

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Speaker 1: statements that have been tweeted out by celebrities. Yesterday, I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the Sandra Bullock tweeted, I was so scared when

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Speaker 1: so much I was like, I love I've been watching

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Speaker 1: her movies. I love her. Yeah, I do too, She's

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Speaker 1: so good in the Lost City. What a what a star?

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Speaker 1: Whis Khalifa just tweeted, I'm just starting to realize how

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Speaker 1: funny the granddad from the Simpsons is. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: retweeted that that's good stuff. Loved it. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been thirty years, but my man finally came around

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Speaker 1: to big. Too many Abe haters out there. Yeah. Abe

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Speaker 1: was one of the best Simpsons characters of all. Yeah, truly,

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Speaker 1: So that's some of my favorite that gift of him,

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Speaker 1: like walking in the time backing into the bushes, might

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Speaker 1: be my two favorite Simpsons get like and not Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not like and I These are my secret favorites.

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Speaker 1: Those are probably also the two most popular ones. They're

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Speaker 1: two most commonly used, but they're used for a reason.

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Speaker 1: They're both solid, beautiful and also. Rigottresh tweeted, what is

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Speaker 1: a good male acting performance where he is bored at?

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Speaker 1: Which is? Did you pick the original? I mean I

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Speaker 1: HBO TV show where he was boring Ali g show? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like people that was where it all started. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, But like, do I feel like that's due

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Speaker 1: for like young people being like you on TikTok It

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Speaker 1: just becomes a dance trend, like the new Seinfelder Friends

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Speaker 1: or The Office. I do think that like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't know where, Like I have been rewatching

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Speaker 1: Seinfeld and have not realized like how many pop culture

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Speaker 1: references come from that show, And so I feel like

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Speaker 1: people are starting are probably they're probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: young people who are like my wife and have no

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Speaker 1: idea why they're saying. You know, there's there's a whole

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Speaker 1: legion of people who were like, did you see the

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Speaker 1: Frasier from the show Frasier was on a show about

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Speaker 1: a bar? Oh my god, so we're seeing him drink beer.

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Speaker 1: It makes me happy. They shouldn't know everything, you know,

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Speaker 1: Let them know what they know now and then you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not one of the people who gets frustrated

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Speaker 1: when they find out and they're like, have you heard

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Speaker 1: of cheers? I'm not like, yes, you idiot, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I'm so happy that you're experiencing this. You've

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Speaker 1: got all this time and you're not spending it watching

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Speaker 1: old television shows. You absolute piece of ship. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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Speaker 1: and a website Daily zy geist dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episodes on our foot notes where we link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Super producer justin what is the song that you think

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Speaker 1: people might enjoy? So I've just been listening to these

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Speaker 1: short little TikTok songs that you know, pop up to

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Speaker 1: like a minute and a half, and this one came

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Speaker 1: across my radar. Uh. This is comedian and rappers Zach Box.

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Speaker 1: He was on another show I work on. My mama

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Speaker 1: told me Sipping my tea incredible song. There's like the

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Speaker 1: jokes per second are astounding. It's it made me laugh

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Speaker 1: like several times, and the beatast fires. So this is

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Speaker 1: zack Box Sip in my Tea. And you can find

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Speaker 1: that song in the footnotes. All right, thank you. Justin.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zey Guys is a production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That is going to do it

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Speaker 1: for us this morning. But we are back this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to tell you what is trending and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then bye,