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Speaker 2: Whatever you like, I don't you know.

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Speaker 3: That, I'm ahead.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Go Cray would go crazy and didn't want no one crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, what you said, my say.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't make sure we got off.

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Speaker 2: I'll just tell a fly. They never Mike Guess and.

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Speaker 5: Chris Ducker never been on the movie together never, so

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Speaker 5: you never seen those energies, that same type of energy

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Speaker 5: or one thing. So what I love, what I know

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Speaker 5: was about the comments when people see me and Fly together,

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Speaker 5: they think it's hell of funny.

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Speaker 2: Right because of the energy right there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, then that's like if Chris Tucker and

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Speaker 1: then they.

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Speaker 2: Did a movie like in the movie Together.

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Speaker 5: Over right, a couple of scenes that should have been

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Speaker 5: hell of funny.

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Speaker 4: Kind of like that should have.

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Speaker 2: Been hell of funny that. I'm like, nigga, niggle do it.

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Speaker 1: These niggas letting us get all ready. I went up

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Speaker 2: Can't even do it no more.

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Speaker 5: Nigga, we getting older now, conversation niggas's playing, No niggas,

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Speaker 5: sonig go there we're doing we like followed my son,

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Speaker 5: I'm on that should go crazy.

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Speaker 1: That should go crazy.

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Speaker 2: That'll be crazy.

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Speaker 5: Jane, let me some pepy man.

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Speaker 1: We don't we do not have time around around look

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Speaker 1: at him to put them. We're getting straight down to

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Speaker 1: bas We getting straight to it. We got a certified

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Speaker 1: ass whooper in here with us to what's.

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Speaker 5: Coming from a real ass swooper Rob never never will.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you're taking it on.

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Speaker 5: We got We're just gonna let the energy just just reset.

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Speaker 1: No, no nothing.

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Speaker 3: When nigga got chain gain energy in the free wild Man,

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Speaker 1: That's a whole nother. When that nigga food, that was

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Speaker 1: it's my fool, that's my fault.

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Speaker 6: I was like this nigga sh Brede had to be

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Speaker 1: That nigga was tripped. But the nigga ain't got no

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Speaker 2: Let's go tell please, don't jump ready, nigga. This daddy was.

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Speaker 1: Chasing Ukrainians around the world. Nigga nigs looking at his ass.

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Speaker 4: They don't even understand what he's saying, let's go chet.

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Speaker 1: They like this off for the that guy throw from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go jail.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, man, this nigga is ready to fight.

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Speaker 6: If you knocked that nigga off their boat, manug, how

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Speaker 6: was you finding this nigga?

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Speaker 1: Man? Man? You know he was looking at my neighbor.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I had a spotty Hollywood beach and

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Speaker 1: You would always say, you know, I just seen Clints go.

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Speaker 1: She was like, he'd be out there every day on

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Speaker 1: They was like, nah, we're going back. We had been

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Speaker 5: Not take this out though, Like, even if I had

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Speaker 1: Of ship that you talking.

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Speaker 5: All right, It's just it's a certain place in my

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Speaker 5: heart for people who talk ship. That's why I fuck

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Speaker 5: with social media so I don't never have to meet

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Speaker 5: these people. But I know if it's people getting up

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Speaker 5: every day taking the chance of talking the most ship.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's my track.

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Speaker 2: So what a slogan came from I'm doing You're a champion?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, we didn't even do this right, we got

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the eighty Clove South Show. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Let's go Champans, Let's go champions.

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Speaker 1: We bringing out the champing everybody in the day.

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Speaker 5: I know that you and DC are such boxing fans.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna split this intro up.

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Speaker 5: Let's go I'm gonna split it up because this is

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Speaker 5: definitely one of the legends man of boxing, and it's like,

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Speaker 5: you know, we talk about classic matches and ship like that.

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Speaker 5: We watch them on the road with the hotel and

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Speaker 5: ship like that, and we definitely watch all your clips,

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Speaker 5: and you know, we're fans and we fun with the

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Speaker 5: and we just we're ecstatic to have you here and

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Speaker 2: Shut up, you're cutting.

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Speaker 1: Let's go child. Oh man, thank you, thanks man me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all for real. I got a direct quote, Mann,

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Speaker 1: I finally made it look at me down. Y'all made

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Speaker 5: Then we got a direct quote from Lennox Lewis that

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Speaker 4: Foughtesh saying something he felt like title.

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Speaker 1: Damn. I was all right, man, I was all right.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was all right. I did my thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I did the best I could under my circumstances.

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Speaker 1: I was born with asthma. Uh you know, I ain't

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Speaker 1: People was like, yo, you want to hustle, And I

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Speaker 1: Man, I broke both of them. You look at that,

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Speaker 1: You know what it's like that on, come on, I'm

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Speaker 6: So you know it was like a write of passes,

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Speaker 6: But it was just so many people that understood the

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Speaker 4: It was something I always loved.

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Speaker 6: So I know that for me, it always used to

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Speaker 6: And you know what I mean, if it was a

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Speaker 6: as though you grew up the way that you did,

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Speaker 6: at what point did you realize that really boxing was

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Speaker 6: the thing for you to do professionally, not just in

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Speaker 1: I mean I had literally been working. I started working

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Speaker 5: And I ain't never met him, but I met Hey,

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Speaker 1: Solid guy. He taught me a lot. He was my

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Speaker 6: Like you know, the boxing divisions is you know, everybody,

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Speaker 6: Like damn, when I just say divisions, you can't say

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Speaker 6: So you think that that's the reason why the heavyweight

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Speaker 4: So is it the fact that people don't? Is it

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the lack of training? Is it

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Speaker 1: like it's really like a lot of because you gotta

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Speaker 1: The more respectful work.

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Speaker 2: Take us back to the night.

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Speaker 3: When you want your title, I want to know, like

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Speaker 3: the preparation, first one, the first one.

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Speaker 1: That's always the best one, it's always the best. What

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, to be honest with you, Champ, I won

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Speaker 1: I didn't do good in school, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: was like, damn, I felt like I did something, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I felt like I could be

436
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Speaker 1: more than just a prisoner, you know what I mean.

437
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: I can do something with my life and shit. So

438
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm about, man, Like. You know, you know,

439
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: I tell people I'm traumatized from my childhood because it

440
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. I had a beautiful mother, I had

441
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: a beautiful house, home, and then I lost everything and

442
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: I was homeless, sleeping in the exit of a building

443
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: that I would find, sleeping in cars, you know what

444
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Sleeping at friend's house, you know, a couch baby,

445
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: living from place to place. And I mean then it

446
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: traumatized me enough to become successful. And I said, one

447
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: day I'm gonna be able to help you know, kids

448
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: like myself. You know when I'm doing that now we started,

449
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: uh the Brownsville Boxing Academy. We just purchased a building

450
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: in Brownsville and we gonna open up a gym. You

451
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Let's go, man, Thank you, man,

452
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: you know that's what's up.

453
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Speaker 6: Man, Like, do you feel now you know business though

454
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 6: you didn't, you know, completed your.

455
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: Career as a boxers?

456
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 6: Like, do you feel that your experience as a boxer

457
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 6: is more you know, effective in you helping the kids

458
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 6: or is it that you know all of the shit

459
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 6: that you went through as a child because you've gained

460
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 6: success as a boxer. You made it and you became

461
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 6: a champion, So you have the success story. Do you

462
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 6: leave with that or do you leave with the drama

463
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 6: to motivate the kids more?

464
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I ain't finished fighting first and

465
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: for real, yeah yeah serious, I'm fifty one thousand years old, right.

466
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: But you look at like Mike Tyson, he did the

467
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: fight with Roy Jones a few years ago. And you

468
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: look at a lot of champions they fight much. You know.

469
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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not beat up, you know. I mean,

470
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: I never been able to get I had really, to

471
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: be honest with you, out of my sixties sixty something fights,

472
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: I might have had like five maybe four wards where

473
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: you say, Dan, that was a tough fer I had.

474
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: I had some wards, you know what I'm saying. But

475
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: I want to get it. I want to get them

476
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: next as some wards. But I'm freshman, I feel good.

477
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: I just can't get no fights. Man.

478
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Speaker 3: They scared, Yeah.

479
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Speaker 1: They scared. It's on. It's on like popcorn January twenty seven,

480
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Speaker 1: Hard Rock Casino, Yo, January twenty something. I want you

481
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Speaker 1: to I want you as my guest. I need to

482
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Speaker 1: commentate you for real, for real, I need you to

483
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Speaker 1: commentate and tell you all, yeah enough at Allways and

484
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Speaker 1: Florida and Florida probably you know.

485
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now.

486
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: It's going down for show. Show.

487
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a show, but I'm moving it.

488
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm moving my ship. Comment you're gonna

489
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: comment to your ship, Chap, I like Chap, Mark Julian.

490
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh my investors out there, y'all gotta pay this man, y'all.

491
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Speaker 1: Let's go now.

492
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Speaker 5: Just like was saying, though, let's get into some of

493
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Speaker 5: the war.

494
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: I want to hear. I want I want to I

495
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: want to hear.

496
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Speaker 3: I want to Okay, let's keep the war statement because

497
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Speaker 3: this is good.

498
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Speaker 1: I want to hear the one where you.

499
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Speaker 8: Thought this motherfucker gonna give me the business spanker versus often.

500
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: To go ahead and get him the business. Oh, this

501
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: motherfucker studied me, okay. The first motherfucker, Yeah, the.

502
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 8: First, the first motherfucker who you thought was gonna give

503
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Speaker 8: you the business.

504
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 2: But you fight him?

505
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: Who is that? Michael Hospital and probably State Games. He

506
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: was touching everything, everything, I mean everything, everything he hit

507
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: was sleep big white boy six five six six always

508
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: been a white boy, big white boy who hitting hard

509
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: everything he touched. I mean he was sleeping, you know

510
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. My coach didn't even want me to

511
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: fight him. Was his head Year or no he hey year.

512
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: He was knocking. He was a cop, New York City cop,

513
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: Michael Hospital. I was scared. Yeah, he was a grown man.

514
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: I was a gig. Oh so he was a child

515
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: find a grown leader. But it was to beat him.

516
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: Was the next level where you like now you did

517
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: your thing in New York because he was the New

518
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: York City going the glove champion, you know he was,

519
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: and probably state game champion. Here. I was coming on

520
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: the scene and I was young flash year. I had

521
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: blonde dreadlocks. As you can see, they.

522
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 2: Gone dreadlights get cut off too.

523
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Speaker 4: He was some of mine back.

524
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: I thought I was the only one love my dreams champ. Nah. Yeah,

525
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: I did him dirty. I did him dirty. Yeah, I

526
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: did him dirty dirty. But it was a good fight.

527
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: And then you know what I had, I had a few.

528
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: I had a few. Uh, I had some tough was

529
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: man so a piece of cake, but nah, when I

530
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: had to go powerful pound round for a round, Frans

531
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Speaker 1: botha Frans both of.

532
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Speaker 4: The South South South.

533
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: One day, I was in a gym right and I

534
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: heard Avanda holy Felt talking. He was talking to a reporter.

535
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: They was like, uh, who hit you the hardest in

536
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: your life? Avanda? And he said, franzois Botha. And I

537
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: overheard it. I said, what you say? I said what

538
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: you say? He said, francois Botha. I said, champ me too.

539
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: I said, I swear to God Cham. I couldn't believe it.

540
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell y'all. I ain't gonna lie. I

541
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: went to jamb and I jack because I was catching

542
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: him with the jab, right, I said, this jab, I'm

543
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna put some mustard on this. I'm gonna break his

544
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: nose with this one slipper. You know what I'm saying.

545
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break this because you be jabbing to keep

546
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: him at bed. I said, but this one here, I'm

547
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: gonna stuck in him and break his nose. And I

548
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: went to jab him, and I don't know how he

549
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: timed it and moved to the slipper. He slipped it.

550
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: When he when he slipped it, he did some caveman ship.

551
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Because he don't learn this. He did some caveman ship

552
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: like turning away and broke my reds oh bro, I said,

553
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: god tee, I knew something was wrong, but I'm looking

554
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: at him the whole time, like, don't show it, you know,

555
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at really, I'm like, I'm looking at him

556
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: like I'm looking at him like this, but inside I'm like, helease,

557
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: don't hate me, miss inside, because if I would have

558
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: shown them, he would he would have turned into a lion,

559
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: from a kitten to a lion. Because now you know,

560
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: oh I got. I was sparring Blue Sheeldon, one time

561
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: former heavyweight champion. Man. He was jabbing me so fast,

562
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: hard and fast. He was opening his hand like this

563
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: and he and what that that was pause? He was

564
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: jabbing so hard and fast.

565
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: Come on, kid, Jay so hard your care from you

566
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: did this your camp chill, cham chill.

567
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, I think y'all to serve age you

568
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: out the game, right, you don't ya started? I did

569
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: camera camera on jobs, your fault and your chaim. So

570
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: he was up all right here, So I forget the job.

571
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: The Japan bow so many to take me away from you.

572
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: He Bruce was Ron Bruce Shelton got there was Barn

573
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Bruce sall that your Bruce Selding was opening his hand

574
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: like this and back handed me with the jab and

575
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: it was going shot shot shot, like you don't get

576
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: to guitar when you rob thick. Every time it was

577
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: hitting me. What what?

578
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 9: What?

579
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: What?

580
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: I said, God, I never seen him ship like this,

581
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: but I never seen I came back in the corner

582
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Teddy out and said, if you're gonna fight him, you're

583
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna turn into a monster. He gonna turn

584
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: he just what it's his words? Was he gonna You're

585
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna let the little kiddy chat turn into a lion

586
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: if you don't fight back. I was like, he says,

587
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: no way out of this. You gotta fight back. That's

588
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: the only way he's gonna stop. So the second round,

589
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I got I big down. I started going crazy, y'all.

590
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: He started getting it pobably banging out. He came back

591
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: to the corn up because Teddy said, uh, he did good,

592
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: stayed like that. He gonna quit. I said this, Bruce

593
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: Seldon man, this heavyweight chaining it real smoke hit the sun.

594
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: He said, do that again. I'm telling you if you don't,

595
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 1: he gonna go crazy on You went back in there.

596
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: I an't even be backing out bomb. He said, Yo,

597
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: that's it. He said, that's it. That's what Bruce said.

598
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm no disrespect, but you know he came back. Yeah,

599
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: but I wanted if you don't, if you let them,

600
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: if you let anybody, you feel what I'm saying, get up,

601
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: see weakness, see you hurt.

602
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 9: And I say that, just say like, oh, let's.

603
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: That. Nigga started again, so lights cut off. I'm being

604
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: lead this. Let's ass Yeah, show any sign of weakness.

605
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: When you show any sign of weakness when a man

606
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: and you heard and he heard too. He feel the

607
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: same when you feel. But if you if you show it,

608
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: he gonna all of a sudden, he gonna grow grow.

609
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna get stronger.

610
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: He was that tired.

611
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: He ready gold you ready go.

612
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: He hit you.

613
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: He see you hurt. He ain't tell you no more right,

614
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: He hit a boost of energy. So I learned early.

615
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: He was right about that. When you gotta keep you

616
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: gotta push them all the way downhill, because motherfucker started

617
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: pushing back up and he gets you going downhill. No

618
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: push him all the way downhill. So, uh, you know

619
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: that was my career. Combandion out, making it, pushing him downhill,

620
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: doing the best out.

621
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: So going back to that corner now, now I'm like, oh, ship,

622
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: we get corner stories.

623
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear. I want to hear one

624
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: of the corner.

625
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: Stories that like it shook you and you had to

626
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: bounce right like that corner story.

627
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Stuck with like he's stuck with me. Man, Uh shit,

628
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: damn I was fighting there. Rest in peace. Uh Puerto

629
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Rican brother man Santiago, he was from the Bronx, but

630
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: he was living in Colorado Springs. I was the underdog,

631
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: uh underdog to go to the Olympics. They had kicked

632
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: me off the USA team. You know, I had lost

633
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: the year before, but they wasn't feeling me because I

634
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: had dregs and they ain't really want me representing America

635
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: like that in nineteen ninety two with drags, you know

636
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they was like, yo, if you

637
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: don't cut your hair, you ain't gonna make the team.

638
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, I ain't cot my hair. I'm

639
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: a rebel, I'm a young boy. I'm like, I ain't

640
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: comt my hair. Fuck a lot. So they was like,

641
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: all right, cool, We're gonna show you so they was

642
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: doing everything that you know, pushed me, kick me down

643
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: and a hustle, kept fighting, kept doing my thing, and

644
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: I got to the championships and a brother perl Puerto

645
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Rican brother named Santiago. Man, he believed in me, and

646
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I needed that shit because I was out there on

647
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: the women in prayer and he said he told me

648
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: before the before the fight, he was like, look, because

649
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: they gave him a team of the people they didn't

650
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: want to win. So I was on his team. You

651
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they was like yeah. He

652
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: was like, look, they put you on my team because

653
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: they don't want you to win. He said, Man, I'm

654
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: from New York. You from New York. You go out

655
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: there and you win this shit. So his hyping up

656
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: got me. But now we in the fightings. I'm fighting

657
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: Hove and Ivarez. He got four five hundred fights DC.

658
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm fighting him for the second time. He getting at me.

659
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: We going at it. I sat back in the corner

660
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: and he said, yo, I never forget this shit. I'm

661
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: fifty one years old. I was in nineteen ninety nineteen

662
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: ninety two, he said, Yo, I had him. I was

663
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: like this, my mother tell him stop the fight. I

664
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: can't breathe, yo, I said, we in Colorado. You know

665
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: they got the altitude. I feel that shit got me.

666
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, stop the fighting. I can't pre hboenize attack.

667
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: He like, Yo, this is the heavyweight division. You the

668
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: man in the heavyweight division. He said, go out there

669
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: right now and proved to them you the man. And

670
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I remember that his words, and he died rest of peace.

671
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: So I heard about a year or two ago, but

672
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I can remember regularly enough him sitting right in front

673
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: of me in the corner and him saying, Yo, look

674
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: you the man. Go out there and show these you

675
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: the man. And I went out there and I won

676
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: that shit, and they touched me because it was the

677
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: first time major champish ship. Somebody believed in me, pushed

678
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: me through that ship.

679
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: You know.

680
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 6: Man, speaking of what you just spoke about being in

681
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 6: the corner, like, like, what would you say is your

682
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 6: most intense training? What fight did you have to train

683
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: the hardest for? Because you know, the training is really

684
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 6: what makes the fighter. To me, like, that's the part

685
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 6: that most people can't dedicate themselves to, is that training. Nigga,

686
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 6: You can't fuck you can't eat the skin off chicken

687
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 6: like it's yea, make it weak, you know, and then

688
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 6: you can gain.

689
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: Whatever.

690
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: But you know, what would you say was your most

691
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: intense training session for a fight that you had?

692
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: George for Georgeiggas, you said that, dude, he's the.

693
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 8: Hardest fun What about them? George foreman ship. I couldn't

694
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 8: sleep for two weeks after former fight. Two weeks I

695
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 8: was fucked up, y'all. Excuse my language. I was messed

696
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 8: up for two weeks after that fight. That way hit hard,

697
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 8: that man hard.

698
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm still scared. I mean, I mean, oh, y'all,

699
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lot of y'all chap. You know, like again,

700
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, like again, Your pain in your life is

701
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: what really going. When you in the moments where you

702
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: hurting physically, you can number yourself up if you got

703
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: a bigger hurt in your life. I had always had

704
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: hurt in my life. My mom's was on crack heroin,

705
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: my pops was in jail, I'm in the streets. I

706
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: always had her, So my hurt was my fuel. You

707
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. When I fought for me and

708
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: my mom's died, I'm twenty five, years old. My mom

709
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: died on my birthday. You know what I'm saying. I

710
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: December before. If I wake up, I called, you know,

711
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: my mom's dad. So those pains have always been my drive.

712
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know I was fighting

713
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: for him in first round. That'll ring right, y'all, hitting

714
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: up with a job ba, I said, Damn, I got

715
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: my work for that fight. So I had a thing

716
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: that I would hook off the jab one three, and

717
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: I did it perfect, y'all. Giant got something catch his

718
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: ass corner. What my hardest hook I aver through my knuckle.

719
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: Look at the knuckle. I knew it. I seen it

720
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: and went writ in his eye, the knuckle everything, Bob,

721
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: I said, I got his ass. He ain't even blink.

722
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Oh, he was just looking at me.

723
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: He ain't even blinking. My hardest point I throw hit

724
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: him righting the eye. Got you. He's sudden, that mother

725
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: fucking nigga. That would fuck me up. What the fuck

726
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Now? Please look at me like this

727
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: and that moment you knew he took all your confidence

728
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: in the corner. I look at that, look.

729
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 7: At trade video games shook.

730
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: I was shut. I came back in the corner because

731
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: I knew there was a big punch.

732
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: I knew.

733
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: I felt my knuckle go in his alcohol. I got him.

734
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: He didn't believe me.

735
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't nothing to me. I'm gonna kill you, and he was,

736
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: you know what. I you know, I don't know why,

737
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: but some fighters do that. You know before fighters they

738
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 1: don't shower like for days. Right, Yeah, that's an old trick.

739
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He can do that trick.

740
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: Because when we got in the clinch, y'all watched for

741
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: to god. We got in the clinch, he was so big,

742
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: he was so young, pauls or that whatever. I'm fifty

743
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: years old, y'all. Man, chill out, y'all.

744
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 9: Man started good.

745
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: You know, I grabbed him in the clinch and he's

746
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: smell like a beer before. Yeah, you go to the zoo,

747
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: you know how them bad smell of animals. I was like, oh, ship,

748
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: but there must like he just like he been training.

749
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Your nigga smell like.

750
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: Damn fight yo.

751
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: I was like damn, But I didn't know what it was.

752
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: So I came back to the corner. Changes everything. Yeah

753
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: it does, man, grab a nigga smell like garbage. Then

754
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: he that shit on your face.

755
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: Yo.

756
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: Okay, think about that ship right now, everything staying, and

757
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: then he had it all and then he don't land

758
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: and he ain't faith by your heart?

759
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: Is what happen? Why haven't When you went to the Cooder,

760
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: I was shot down. I was saying, I'm fucked because

761
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: I want to do now. So this is the first round,

762
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: first round, champ. I was sitting there like damn. And

763
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: then my coach, you know, he ain't speak that much English,

764
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: call us the winning. That's my love, that's my heart

765
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: right there, my boy, here's my coach. He was like

766
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: boxing boxing mox. He ain't speak that much English. At

767
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: the time. I was like Fox, my FuG ain't keyboard,

768
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: stop coming. But I went out their first round. But

769
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: I say that to say this, my mom just died.

770
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: So that number you with ship. You know, you might

771
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: think for a second, damn. You know, uh this mornful

772
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: you're stronger, he keep coming, But fuck that your mama, dad, nigga,

773
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: get out there and go to work, you know what

774
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean. Make it happen. So that's big, you know

775
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: what I mean.

776
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 6: So you talked about the hardest punch he hit you with,

777
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 6: when did the boy you hit him with? What was

778
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 6: the one where you realized, Nigga, I'm fighting Joe. Other

779
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 6: than the smell, but when did you realize I'm fighting

780
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 6: George Foreman because he hits you with one of them

781
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 6: George Foreman punches.

782
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: What a round was you?

783
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Remember? He was? He was, He was hitting hard, Champ.

784
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna front. He's hitting hard throughout the fight. Uh.

785
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: He cracked me in the like seventh round. He literally

786
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: knocked me out. I had to tell you the truth.

787
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: Hit me with the right hand bomb and I was

788
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: on my way out and he hit me with left

789
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: upper cut and we woke you up, woke me up,

790
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: that's my word. I ain't gonna fron I tell that story.

791
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: It's true, though, world up. I was out, he was,

792
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: I was gone, and he hit me and woke me up.

793
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: But again, Mom, Mama, Dad, So you got no pain,

794
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: no pain all I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get

795
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: man's back, that's all I'm thinking. Im gonna get man's back,

796
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was a tough fight.

797
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: But you know I had some tough fights, man, You

798
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: know I had some wars. I had a few. I

799
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: fought Clitch Goal. I fought him with one arm. Always

800
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: make that clear out for it. But for Taldy Clissco

801
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: for twelve rounds of one of my ship broke in

802
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: the first one in the first round.

803
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 8: Look, oh serve, Yeah.

804
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: That was right after the fight. They had to go

805
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: through this side, come through this side, fought on twelve rounds,

806
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: stood in the paint trying to get it. You know

807
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's a chap. I ain't never throw

808
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: in a white town.

809
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 8: I don't believe in this ship.

810
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know it there. Let me fight,

811
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: because yeah, rampage, You're going down fast and hard, Jerry

812
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven. You see yup up here laughing and playing.

813
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: But watch when the bell ray, I'm gonna beat the

814
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: ship out you. I'm gonna beat the ship out to you.

815
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: That's my word. You're gonna see your word. I gonna

816
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: see I'm gonna beat the ship out you. You ain't gonna

817
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: playing what you watch. So how do you feel about

818
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: like night coming over to you? This mm a boxing

819
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: and then there's real boxing. I'm gonna teach him lesson

820
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: and let me explain something to you. He wanted to

821
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: fight me. You know what I'm saying. He wanted to

822
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: fight me. He wanted to, you know, do a pro fight.

823
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, I can help you get

824
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: ready trading. He was like, train me, I'll beat you.

825
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: I was like what. I was like, nah, Champ, Chill?

826
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: You know?

827
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: So? I was like you think? So he was like, yeah,

828
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: if I beat you, it'll be a good look for

829
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: me because you got a good name. You nah, no

830
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: somebody else what? So I was like, why are you slapt?

831
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: I forgot somebody?

832
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: You forgotten?

833
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: Jill Champ, Chill, You've lost something waiting for me? Jail

834
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: but very bag is on like Popcord July twenty seventh,

835
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: man years old. They got from nothing training, I said, twenty,

836
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: I apologize already Ready second? Ready said ready? You said

837
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: you how you fifty fifty one thousand, fifty one thousand?

838
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 5: Yes, and you say you want to have how many

839
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 5: more fights?

840
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: You know what? Champ? I ain't gonna keep it really,

841
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get back in shape, you know.

842
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: I mean, just lo's like thirteen pounds right. Uh. You know,

843
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: I just feel like I could do it, man, I can.

844
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I really feel like I could do it. Why not.

845
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna jump out there and do nothing crazy

846
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: at first. I'm gonna fight myself back into shape. I

847
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: call it the pot tour. You ain't dead, exactly. What's

848
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: the profession? You always a profession? How is it, like

849
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: you said, going by getting fights knowing that I still

850
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: can fight. I can bring out the crowd, I can

851
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: sell ticket.

852
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: You somebody have to agree to be like, I'll fight

853
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 3: or you just won't be able to fight.

854
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm basically gonna take my showing the road,

855
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and just build up, you know,

856
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: build back up, fight and stand busy. And then when

857
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm ready for for a major step up, I'm just

858
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: walking somewhere, flip the table over on somebody press conference

859
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: and be like, what right, They're gonna be like, Yo,

860
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: he's back, he back, he's back. He's back. With that

861
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: ship again. You go.

862
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 5: But I like when you have fighters, and then when

863
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 5: the unto rush try to jump in, you be.

864
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: Like, take you to get them, all right, we'll get them.

865
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: Don't touch, don't touch.

866
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: Let's go champ. Let's go champ.

867
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Maybe know what I a man? Oh man? The best?

868
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 6: When was your first time showing up and doing that

869
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: in your career, showing up to a press conference or

870
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 6: somebody doing like.

871
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: A weight event away.

872
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: In and you showed up the way you are known

873
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: to show up.

874
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 4: Now, what was the first time.

875
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: I had I had bloomed up and wait, I had

876
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: got up to like I was four hundred and three pounds.

877
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: I was outest, I was depressed. I was suffering from

878
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: me depression. They prescribed me depaco. Sera quailed to say,

879
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you bout poli up. I was distressed out, you know.

880
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I made from life and I got fat. And then

881
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: my friend of mine was, you know, laughing at me

882
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: one day, told me how flat I was different people.

883
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna getting my

884
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: shit to difference. So I went on the journey. Man,

885
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: I actually started I was. I hadn't. I wasn't in

886
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: a cannabis smoke up. You know. I grew up with

887
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: asthma I saw unfortunately, started drinking since I was like

888
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen years old. And then when I was forty

889
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: thirty nine to forty my humble pardon me thirty eight,

890
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: A friend of monster was like, yo, you should try

891
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: this instead of prescription drugs, and I tried cannabis and

892
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: changed me.

893
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: Man.

894
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean the first time, I literally took the pails,

895
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: pulled them in the toilet, and started training that hadn't

896
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: been training in the years. Started getting in shape, and

897
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: I started saying, let's go champis of self motivation, you know.

898
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: I mean.

899
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: I lost one hundred and sixty seven pounds, came back

900
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: to boxing because I said.

901
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: You made rat trying.

902
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: I lost one hundred and thirty seven pounds part of

903
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: me and came back to boxing. And I had about

904
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: four or five fights, and I was telling people, yoah,

905
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: put me in the newspaper, let them know I'm fighting.

906
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, you too old. I was forty.

907
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I was like thirty nine. I

908
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: was like, you're on back and I see it wasn't

909
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: getting me nowhere. So I was like, you know what,

910
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: I gotta get disrespectful. That's only way, you know what

911
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, sometimes some people don't respect violence, you

912
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Unfortunately, you know what I'm saying.

913
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: And the people love violence, you know what I mean. Unfortunately,

914
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, we're human. So I was pissed off, to

915
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: be honest, with your chance because I was. But it

916
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: wasn't even marketing. I'm gonnakeep it real. It was just

917
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I was mad because I was like, Yo, I'm doing

918
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: my thing and let me live, let me eat, let

919
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: me show me pop, let me pop. Push it off.

920
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: They was like, nah, it was. But I've been black

921
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: balled in the game three times already, and I call

922
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: it errors like the HBO era, I was black ball.

923
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I was black I've been black ball like played a

924
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: few times, you know what I'm saying. Where they was like,

925
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: You're never gonna get a fight on that take on

926
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: TV again. Yeah, yeah, huh, becuz I'll be talking my ship.

927
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: And and also to you know, I never really you know,

928
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: I told you earlier. I've been working some eight years old, right,

929
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and I always had a boss you know

930
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: what I mean that paid me on Fridays or whatever,

931
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: and he'll try to jerk me too, you know what

932
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean. So when I got into the boxing game,

933
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it was even worse than that,

934
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you know, I literally

935
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: millions of dollars that I've been stolen from me, millions

936
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: of dollars I can't even go into it. But I

937
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: could go into it. But y'all be sitting here and

938
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: listening all day. But what but this as shit crazy?

939
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: So you know, but on the business wise, you know,

940
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I've always been hustling putting plays together and I always

941
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: had to, you know, be on top of my game.

942
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: So be doing that. They ain't like that. The establishment

943
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: ain't like me, you know, talking back or basically saying like, yo,

944
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: that ain't yeah, well you know the paperwork came right, champ,

945
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: or why am I doing this? Why this? And you

946
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: know I'm talking back or I'm you know what I'm saying,

947
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: I'm asking the questions that should be as I'm asking

948
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: the question that should be asked as a person that's

949
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: going in there doing it. And a lot of times

950
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: people will say, yo, take this fight, and I'd be like, nah,

951
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: I ain't taking that fight. That ain't the right fight

952
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: for me. And you know it was all right, cool

953
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: watch this and they make that call and try to

954
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: black ball me. But the good dude, the good news

955
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: was the Internet came out. So when the Internet came out,

956
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: I was able to move without them. Now, people, the

957
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: fans is my people. You know what I'm saying. That's

958
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: why I call it them Let's go champ on me,

959
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: because they give me the ability to still be seeing

960
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: and the promoters is watching that. You know, that network

961
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: is watching it. Now we don't have to depend on

962
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: the network so much, you know, because of streaming. Plumb.

963
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Look at y'all, man, Come on, y'all. Shout out to y'all.

964
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, let's go champ You know what I mean.

965
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: Studio beautiful, big, crazy studio. You know what I'm saying,

966
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: different rooms, y'all, y'all inspired me and showing me I

967
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: was an older brother. Look at my young black brothers. Man,

968
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: what y'all doing? This is Live at five? Man, get

969
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: your gym. I want to sponsor some equipment. A word

970
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: that's crazy man, for real real. Yeah, we're doing the

971
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: movie man. Shout out to Michael Rappaport to Adria Playhouse Production,

972
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: and shout out to Amazon. Amazon. We just picked up

973
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: a deal. We're doing an eight series show and called

974
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Brownsville on Amazon. Yeah. Yeah, eight series.

975
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: That's so, let's see you.

976
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 5: Since you dropping the problem, what's seven the book drop today?

977
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: Let's go check the book drop today. You know what

978
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I just got the books before I got

979
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: on the plane today, and uh fortunately I was hearing

980
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: with you brothers in a long time comment. I'm here

981
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: with y'all and I dropped my book today, just got

982
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: today and it's the stories man growing up, you know

983
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, Since I was a kid, like I said, hustling,

984
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: working jobs all my wife and then getting in a

985
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: boxing which is which is which is a business as well.

986
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: So I always been in the business of making money.

987
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: I've always been in a business of surviving, finding a way,

988
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and literally making it a

989
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: point not to go to jail, you know what I mean,

990
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: Because I used to go visit my pops in jail

991
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, all upstate New York, every prison, right,

992
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: it's every state. I've been there, Clinton sing sing all that.

993
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: So growing up, growing up as a kid, going on

994
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: those buses and all that. Well, so I said, this

995
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: is something that I want to stop, you know what

996
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean. So I think in building this Brownsville Boxing

997
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Academy will have opportunity to save lives. Man, because think

998
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: about this, you got three heavyweight champions from Brownsville, Brooklyn Brownsville,

999
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: Brooklyn is not it's not two miles in size, It's

1000
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: under two miles my point eight mile with two hundred

1001
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: thousand people living at one point eight miles. Yeah, two

1002
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. And how many miles one point eight miles?

1003
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: Damn yeah, two hundred thousand people.

1004
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 4: Oh, like you've been You've had a long career.

1005
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 5: Who are some of the boxes that you would consider

1006
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 5: your friends that you fought that I fought.

1007
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lennix Lewis is cool. Yeah, Lennox is a cool brother,

1008
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: real talk. He a good brother. Mike I never thought Mike.

1009
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: Mike is the best. He's the best. He's the best.

1010
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: That's the best of the funniest ship. We live, We Live,

1011
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: We Live. I'm cool with everybody, champing Set, Rampage. Now

1012
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock you out. But now Rampage he cool.

1013
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: But I'm gona knock you out. But I'm cool with everybody.

1014
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, who did I fight that I'm

1015
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: cool with. I'm far for Ray Mercer. I love Ray

1016
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: mercer Man. Ray Mercer is a is a g He's

1017
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: one of the I think, one of the toughest men

1018
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: in the planet that ever lived. You know, real talk,

1019
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: he's a soldier. Shout out to Ray Mercer. Was a

1020
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: tough fight. He had a hell of a jive. Man.

1021
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop it. No matter what I did. I

1022
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: would look at it. I said, you ain't hit me

1023
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: with this one. Ain't no way. I'm looking at his fist.

1024
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: There's no way this wire gonna hit me. I'm like God,

1025
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: It's just the timing was crazy, you know what I mean?

1026
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: It was crazy. So Ray Mercy is one of the

1027
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: great great one of the great fighters in history. And

1028
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: I can say I'm happy.

1029
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 5: To say at Florida, who some of your young guys,

1030
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 5: some of your young fighters that you like watching or

1031
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 5: you enjoy seeing them come up today?

1032
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: Man, they all get busy, all of them. Secura Uh,

1033
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford, Uh, all of them getting busy. Boy, they

1034
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a good time to be alive and

1035
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: see the young boys getting busy. They don't fight enough

1036
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: for me. But you got Devid Haney, you know what

1037
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Loman Jacob, you know you got you got

1038
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: that young boy. Anderson coming out shout out the big

1039
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: baby Miller. You got it like big baby Anderson. You

1040
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: got man, you got a lot of fighters. Man, they're

1041
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: coming up. Man. You know, my my next, I think

1042
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: my next besides, you know, a couple more fights just

1043
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: for fun. To be honest with you, like I doing

1044
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: this exhibition with ramp Page, I'm gonna have a few

1045
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: fights just for fun. Shout out to Roy Jones and

1046
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Antonio tal I just spoke to them yesterday. Let's go champ.

1047
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just doing it for fun. But the

1048
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: next the next stage of my life is to be

1049
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: like don King. You know, his head grew up, minds

1050
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: grow down like this. So I'm gonna try to lose

1051
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: some promotion. I mean exactly, you know, do some promoting,

1052
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: promoting fighters and ship like that.

1053
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 6: Although I had a question for you, Sure, what's the

1054
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 6: best fight you've ever seen that you weren't it?

1055
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: I went to see, uh, I went to see closed circuit,

1056
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: sugary litter and marler. That was cold was cold, closed circuit.

1057
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't kid. I want to see that ship. That

1058
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: ship was, but that was electrifying. Man to c ray

1059
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: come back after you'll get the haggler. You know that

1060
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: one of the marvelous ones. That ship was that was

1061
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: the main strategy was.

1062
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 4: That's blessed.

1063
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 6: One of the best strategies in boxing history, right the

1064
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: cold fight right there. Now, My personal favorite fight that

1065
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 6: I ever seen was a tou Ro Gotty and Mickey war.

1066
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: The first one, Yeah, the first Mickey, the first war

1067
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: Gotty like that was that. I remember watching it on

1068
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: the HBO.

1069
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: I think it came on the Friday Night Fights, if

1070
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken, and them niggas they fought from round

1071
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 6: one to twelve and beat the dogs, ship out each other.

1072
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: Rest piece of turro. Shout out to my boy, Mickey.

1073
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: That's my boy, you know mc mahn. That's my brother.

1074
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: I love Mickey. Shout out to Mickey Ward. That's what's up,

1075
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: real brother, real good guy.

1076
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 6: So who just like you gotta you gotta I gotta ask,

1077
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 6: Like I know this is a one of them cliche questions,

1078
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 6: but I gotta know, like who your top five fighters

1079
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 6: of all time?

1080
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: That's what first and foremost. Jack Johnson, the greatest, the greatest.

1081
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 4: Niggas don't know about that boy, Jack Johnson.

1082
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 1: He had the hardest path, the hardest path. That's exactly

1083
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. Because of his path, let alone,

1084
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: there was other black fighters better than him at the

1085
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: time from from what they say, really yeah, yeah, a lot,

1086
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: that's a lot, quite a few, but I don't think

1087
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: they ain't have what he had. Now. He had losses.

1088
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: He had losses. He had four quite a few brothers

1089
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: that had you know, gave it to him, but he

1090
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: came back and beat him. He wasn't undefeated or nothing

1091
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: like that. But it wasn't a big thing to not

1092
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: to be undefeated back then. But he he he he,

1093
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: he was walking to walk in front of them boys

1094
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: like to say, what like you know what I mean?

1095
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: He had them shook daddy. There was like he had

1096
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: that pistol. He was gold teeth. He was a gangst

1097
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: three yea three of them three three, Yeah, he was.

1098
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: He was gangster. So you know, but you know he

1099
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: had he was a different type of you know, brother

1100
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: then you could talk about uh, you know, not talk

1101
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: about not people don't talk about him enough. But Henry

1102
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: Armstrong and and I say him, yeah, Hurricane Hanks. And

1103
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: that's the that's the problem that if it was ever

1104
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: a movie that should be made about a fighter, it

1105
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: should be about Henry Armstrong. Yeah, police do look him up.

1106
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: Everybody because he was the greatest fight of all times,

1107
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: better than Jack. Jack just carried a u a. He

1108
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: carried us on his bat Because every time Jack Johnson fought,

1109
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: they would go on killing, spreeze and lynch that you

1110
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: hundreds of blacks. They would say one or two, but

1111
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: the hundreds of blacks would be lynched. So you knew

1112
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: when Jack Johnson fought, black people was gonna die. There

1113
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: was gonna be some killings to cause. No but think

1114
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: about this and I said that too, right, But think

1115
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: how many people was happy that they couldn't believe there

1116
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: was a black heavyweight champion. They never had nothing to

1117
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: look at it, and they never had no baseball players

1118
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: to look at. They had no president, they have no

1119
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: people in government, but they had something. And that's what

1120
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: black people all around the world need to understand. Boxing,

1121
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: the sport of boxing. One man changed the earth, Jack Johnson.

1122
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Black people was killed when he fought, but think how

1123
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: many were smiling cause he was beating him. And they

1124
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine in a million years, a billion years that

1125
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: a black man could be had your champion, so so

1126
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: crazy that for forty years after him, they would not

1127
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: let a black man fight for the title for forty

1128
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: years until Joe Louis came around, until they let Joe

1129
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Louis fight for the title. So that's how powerful of

1130
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: a man that Jack Johnson was, that he was such

1131
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: a figure. Yeah, I don't know. I said the satame thing,

1132
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: damn people died as a bad day. But then I

1133
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: sud scratched my head and said, damn. But think how

1134
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: many people was in power to saying, yo, we could

1135
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: be something one day, just like when I was saying

1136
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson was. In the eighties, everybody wanted to be

1137
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: a boxer. That's why you see the nineties now this

1138
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: is this is d The nineties is really the golden

1139
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: era of boxing in the history of boxing. The nineteen nineties.

1140
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: You had more men and young men around the world

1141
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: who wanted to be boxers coming out of the eighties

1142
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: because of Mike Tyson. So you had you had so

1143
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: many names. I can't begin the name Chris Bird, I've

1144
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: seen Rockman, John Ruiz, David Toua, Riddick Bow, Riddick Bowl,

1145
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: I've really had the Holy feel. But he was from

1146
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: the eighties. But you just had so many people that

1147
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: wanted to be boxes because of Mike and then Holy

1148
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: Feel and that money was in boxing boy, twenty million

1149
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: dollar fights. You could be a bum forget a Mike

1150
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: Tyson fight and gett knocked out and get ten million.

1151
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: People was jumping in there. I'm next, I'm next.

1152
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 6: I'm saying they trying to jump in there, like Manweather

1153
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 6: was like that did it like that in regards to

1154
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 6: what meaning like he could fight buy We spoke the

1155
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 6: other day on the phone.

1156
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he was.

1157
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 5: He fought some bums and it was getting the biggest

1158
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: paychecks of their lives.

1159
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I wanted, I want, I want. I don't

1160
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: know who he fought to be, but he had some

1161
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: tough fights. He fought. Uh, he thought everybody and put

1162
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: in front of himy for a Toro God he who

1163
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: you see it? Leave that dogs, get him thirty everybody?

1164
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: He put it from the champ did him ship out

1165
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: of Toro? Got it? I have?

1166
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: My uncle told me some code shit. He was like

1167
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: two things. You never do.

1168
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 6: You never spit in the wing because that shit gonna

1169
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 6: blow right back in your face, and you never better

1170
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 6: against Floyd may.

1171
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: Business.

1172
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah all the way like the chap.

1173
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 6: But the thing is like it's what was the most.

1174
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 6: I gotta I tell you mine first of you get

1175
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 6: the reference of the question. You know what I mean

1176
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 6: As a boxing fan, that's my favorite sport. I love boxing,

1177
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 6: But ain't no more when.

1178
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 4: Like watching as a fan.

1179
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 6: To me when Roy lost when I was a young nigga,

1180
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 6: that ship shot, Yeah, it's shocked.

1181
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: I remember watching that ship and this ain't even real.

1182
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it was you was you was there?

1183
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: You know man, that ship I was.

1184
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: I remember sitting like what the fuck?

1185
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Roy lost?

1186
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: Because there we never seen before.

1187
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: We never even seen him get hurt.

1188
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 6: I remember when he got that disqualification that came back

1189
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 6: and knocked the nigga out of the first round. But

1190
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 6: was there anybody that you know that you were a

1191
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 6: fan of throughout the time that you you know, that

1192
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 6: took a loss that you didn't think was capable of

1193
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 6: of losing.

1194
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: That shocked you? M hm yeah, Tyson Man. When Mike

1195
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: watched the bust of doublans Bro, we was in like shock.

1196
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Who whatever thought? You know what I mean, that's just

1197
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: shot the word shot the world, Mike Tyson bro.

1198
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yea shrimping man.

1199
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna do when you get up,

1200
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: You going yet, Nigga, I see it. Yeah, that's a

1201
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: bad man. That was a bad man.

1202
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, because nobody ever thought he was gonna lose.

1203
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 6: And I think he really wanted that fight. If you

1204
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 6: really go back and watch it, he he really dropped

1205
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 6: it that first that first knock down. That first knockdown,

1206
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 6: he was down like you know what I'm saying, something

1207
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 6: like seventeen seconds. He was talking about this because they

1208
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 6: didn't count and then like and you watch the replay,

1209
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 6: you see them at the at the way and count

1210
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 6: two and they got like nineteen.

1211
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: So it was a count. But you know that's how

1212
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: boxing is, man, you know, that's how it is. You

1213
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's how they have been robbed.

1214
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: I've been robbed before, not robbed like in Brownsville type.

1215
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm talking about robbed and ring.

1216
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Uh in the ring. I've been robbed by managers and

1217
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: promoters worst.

1218
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we get into that, okay, but I'm talking about

1219
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: in the ring.

1220
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: I thought I got robbed in the fight year. I thought,

1221
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I know, I felt I got robbed. Yeah, I wanted

1222
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: to fight, but the system was against me at the time,

1223
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: you know, the administration at the time that was on

1224
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: on the helm. They was it was against me and

1225
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: they took a fight from me, and I thought he

1226
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: could have been a draw, you know, but I just

1227
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: jumped out the bed, took the fight. I'm gonna knock

1228
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: him out. And do I know he had been a

1229
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: training cad with Klinsko, so he was used to getting

1230
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: pumps beat up. So first round I came up, cracked

1231
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: him up.

1232
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 5: He out of here and I gotta ask you back.

1233
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: We stood up. I gotta ask you belt.

1234
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 5: You know the biggest scandal in recent years with the

1235
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 5: with the Kodo fight with the glove, what what?

1236
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: What was your take from that?

1237
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 5: You remember the first fight that ship was she was

1238
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 5: under But the Redemption fight is one of my top

1239
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 5: five fights.

1240
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: That was crazy. Shout out to Mguil, called brother.

1241
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 5: Mguil called her Manuel markads, what haven't oh?

1242
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: He put.

1243
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: Margarito that that's what was plaster They.

1244
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: Put it to No, it was the member.

1245
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 6: He wrapped his hands with the plaster and then he

1246
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 6: had that little that little loss of metal plate inside

1247
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 6: the handra Man.

1248
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: Fucked him up.

1249
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1250
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 6: When you see Miguil called her that first fight, but

1251
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 6: it looked like somebody was hitting him with a back.

1252
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: It was crazy, and then he ended up fighting.

1253
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 6: They ended up finding out about it and caught it

1254
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 6: before he fought Shane Mosley. They caught it right before

1255
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: he fought Shane Mosley and they didn't call it fight all.

1256
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: No, he was great.

1257
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 6: Do that Ship to Shane Mosley and they called him

1258
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 6: the same dude. And then Shane Moseley came out and

1259
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 6: beat the dog. Ship called him his trainer caught it

1260
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 6: right before the fight and.

1261
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 4: Him change the glove.

1262
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1263
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they made him unwrap his hands and Ship got don.

1264
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: Man, that is hard. You tell Blast and Ship I hurt.

1265
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 6: You gotta say, does that happen more often than in

1266
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 6: boxing that you don't hear about?

1267
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: I felt like it happened to me in a fight

1268
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: with somebody. I was like, nowhere in the world that, uh,

1269
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: that's his fist, you know. And they was kind of

1270
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: known for that, but I knew because he was every

1271
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: point she hit me with. I was like, God, how

1272
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: could that be? You know? I mean, but I was

1273
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: spawning this African dude one time and he was hitting

1274
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: me so hard. Bro, I swear to God. I was like, Yo,

1275
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: it's something in his glove. I came back to my corner.

1276
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, son, son and his gloves. My trender

1277
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: was like, no, just go out there. I went back

1278
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: out there. He hit me again. Bump he was he was, man,

1279
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: I had not I can't even man something in his gloves.

1280
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1281
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: He went and took over man glove. He had had

1282
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: nothing in there.

1283
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: Man.

1284
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: Damn, the man was hitting hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah hear that, yo.

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Speaker 1: I could believe it, Yo. But and then we have

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Speaker 1: to be small. He went out and started hitting the

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Speaker 1: bag and he knocked the bag down. Damn, that's my herd.

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Speaker 1: He knocked the bag. Guy. I'll never forget because I

1290
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Speaker 1: was still in the ring thinking about that ass whooper

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Speaker 1: he just gave me. I was like, damn, I was young.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty one years old.

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Speaker 5: So think about it, like when ship like that, Like

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Speaker 5: if the world could have gotten.

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Speaker 8: To see him who is who is so to spar

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Speaker 8: and be some of the greatest fighters versus the wood

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Speaker 8: that people see.

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Speaker 1: What if somebody would have seen this motherfucker Broski. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you I had I had some dudes that I've

1300
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Speaker 1: been in the ring with that I say was cold,

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Speaker 1: And that's definitely the colder the champions. Man I spoilt

1302
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: some dudes. That was hell of HELEVI dudes. Man, I

1303
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: was Maurice Harris. Everybody knows Maurice Harris. Most people are boxing.

1304
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Speaker 1: One of the best spares I ever had. I ain't

1305
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: hit him yet, that was ninety I hit him yet.

1306
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: He was cold, spart some of some dudes to fight

1307
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Speaker 1: in that gym. Some dudes are gym fighters, you know

1308
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But then sometime he put him in

1309
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Speaker 1: front of them lights. Come on, bro, they say, man,

1310
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Speaker 1: I can't do it. Man, I seen him. I seen

1311
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: dudes leave and from the dressing room and they say

1312
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: what happened? They say, he couldn't do it. It wasn't

1313
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: the different between gym fighters and the light fighters. So

1314
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, I knew a dude, bro, that's

1315
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: my word. He was so cold. I don't want to

1316
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: blow his name up by y'all something. He was so

1317
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: nice and the gym nobody could see him. I'm talking

1318
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: about he from heavy even the middleweight, but that heavyweights

1319
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: was like nah nah nah please nah. He would coach,

1320
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: would make us go in there with him. He was nasty,

1321
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: but when it was fight time and the bell ring

1322
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: his legs wouldn't work. He just would crumble and jump

1323
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Speaker 1: on the ground. We couldn't believe it because he was

1324
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: the he was a fly dude, he was you know

1325
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He had everything to make him to

1326
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: be a world champion and he just could not get

1327
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: in front of those lights. Man, some people ain't got it.

1328
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1329
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Speaker 2: It's like that in comedy.

1330
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I heard that.

1331
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Speaker 4: I heard.

1332
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: I heard to a give and take.

1333
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Speaker 4: We ain't getting hit by no Affricans that ain't like

1334
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Speaker 4: that comedy A.

1335
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Speaker 1: Man for the show.

1336
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Speaker 4: We appreciate.

1337
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Speaker 1: success in my life and not an overcoming and doing

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Speaker 1: the best I can to be the best I can man,

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Speaker 1: right now, you get downloaded for free. And if you win,

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Speaker 1: if I meel it to you, I'm putting I'm putting

1346
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Speaker 1: one thousand dollars and five books. I'm gonna send them

1347
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Speaker 1: to you. Whoever get the thousand dollars, you get the

1348
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Speaker 1: priceless information and you get a thousand dollars five books

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Speaker 1: with a thousand dollars in it. Let's st chipping, let's

1350
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Speaker 1: still chi. Look at them your audi self. If let's

1351
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Speaker 1: go temp work on the Florida. Let's go, let's go big.

1352
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Speaker 1: I got y'all not trade the person you want on boots.

1353
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Speaker 6: No that afternon went on five bucks can save you

1354
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Speaker 6: money because you.

1355
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Speaker 5: Want your first time coming today to phimself show.

1356
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: But if you ever want to.

1357
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Speaker 5: Stop through here and tell us a thousand boxing.

1358
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Speaker 1: Store off, man, you know you want to do what

1359
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Speaker 1: I want? Show me word. I want to do that,

1360
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: show bro. I gotta do that, man, I gotta do

1361
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Speaker 1: that show man. I can't wait.

1362
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Speaker 4: That's definite.

1363
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 5: We ain't gonna we're not in in this show until

1364
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 5: you throw me the sharp and we got all the

1365
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 5: legends to stop through here. They signed the table, and

1366
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 5: until we get our sign pair of love for the studio,

1367
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 5: we're gonna just well accept it on the table.

1368
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Speaker 1: Look at them, y'all eighty five.

1369
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Speaker 5: Self show ship again and were out of here. Let's go,

1370
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 5: let's go chair, get my son, I love you, don't

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Speaker 5: get a get a picture.

1372
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: Let's do it. It's moving, no gosh, man, hear me. Okay,

1373
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: what's yeah? Your s popcorn, my books with the camera.

1374
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: Let get a count. You don't even want to leave you.

1375
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna take that.

1376
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: It's done.

1377
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Speaker 2: You don't get that mother.

1378
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Speaker 1: Man,