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Speaker 1: Okay, what is going on? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast reporting live, uh late afternoon as I record this

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Speaker 1: on a Monday, also known around NFL circles as Black Monday,

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Speaker 1: people have been getting fired left and right. I woke

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Speaker 1: up this morning to the news of Mike Mayock being hired.

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Speaker 1: Tons of thoughts here on Black Monday, on the coaches

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Speaker 1: and just on everything going on. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: dive into that in one second. Also going to dive

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Speaker 1: into Mike Zimmer. Uh, looks like I was on the

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Speaker 1: right side of history. Went on Iran a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago about firing John d. Filippo. It turns out

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Speaker 1: the dinosaur kind of poked his his ugly head again

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Speaker 1: yesterday and Matt Maggie and Vic Fangio and Khalil Mack

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Speaker 1: Introbiski took them to the wood shed. Obviously, playoffs, we

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Speaker 1: we have the matchups pretty I think you can't get

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Speaker 1: much better. Just top to bottom of the games we

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Speaker 1: have on Saturday and Sunday. I'll dive into some of

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Speaker 1: my thoughts there. College football playoffs had some big takeaways.

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Speaker 1: What what a what an awesome day in theory and

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Speaker 1: then the actual games start. But you know, if you

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Speaker 1: were gambling and you followed my advice, I had Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame getting rolled. I had Oklahoma keeping it within the

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Speaker 1: fourteen points. I'm trying to make you money here. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna do a little game called word association.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through every team on both conferences, the

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Speaker 1: one through six seeds in the playoffs, and just the

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Speaker 1: first word that comes to my mind. Kind of uh,

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Speaker 1: a little radio E type segment, but it's just something

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Speaker 1: trying to mix it up a little bit. And then

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Speaker 1: we'll end with the Middlecoff mail bag. You can always

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Speaker 1: get in the Middlecoff mail bag to slide up into

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Speaker 1: my d M s at John Middlecoff on Instagram. We'll

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Speaker 1: try to do it for the kids here on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Slide up into my DM. Well, let me start with

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Speaker 1: something Black Monday happened and what did we see? All

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Speaker 1: the coaches got fired, but none of the gms got fired.

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Speaker 1: I know, Mike Mayock was just introduced. I have a

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Speaker 1: couple of thoughts on that here in a second. But

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Speaker 1: Reggie McKenzie had been fired for a long time, you know,

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Speaker 1: a month hour plus. But you look at the Jets,

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Speaker 1: you look at the Cardinals, you look all over the Buccaneers, obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Browns, the Packers, that the gms are safe. And

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Speaker 1: I started thinking, why do coaches get fired? But general

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Speaker 1: managers don't like think about that. All these coaches are

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Speaker 1: fired and none of the general managers lose their job.

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Speaker 1: When you looked at the New York Jets, Mike mccagne,

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Speaker 1: who hired Todd Bowles, they came in at the same time,

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Speaker 1: built a roster. The Jamal Adams yesterday basically called the

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Speaker 1: entire roster. I don't think he was including Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: but every other player on the team, gutless, heartless said

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Speaker 1: we have no dogs. Steve Kin, the general manager for

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, started this season off. First off, he

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Speaker 1: hired Wilkes. And one of the big stories when he

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Speaker 1: hired Steve Wilkes was they had like met over the

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Speaker 1: off season the previous year when they were on vacation

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Speaker 1: and like the Gulf of Mexico or something, they met

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Speaker 1: on the beach. Both worked in the NFL, started talking,

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Speaker 1: He got a d U I in this summer, but

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Speaker 1: you know this offseason. I guess it's still two thousand

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Speaker 1: eighteen on the fourth of July. I'm recording this on

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. If you get a d u I

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Speaker 1: on the fourth of July or on New Year's Eve,

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Speaker 1: you are two things. You're either an alcoholic or you're

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Speaker 1: an idiot. Worst case, you're a combination of the two.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a multi millionaire and you get a

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Speaker 1: and people are like, what do you mean a bad

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Speaker 1: put context things into bad things into context. You know,

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Speaker 1: not all duys are created equal. When you blow like

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday afternoon after a work meeting, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a bad decision. But I look at it a

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Speaker 1: little differently. That guy kept his job. He hired Wilkes,

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Speaker 1: that he fired me. He got to keep his job.

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Speaker 1: John Elway, who is you know, basically the pseudo owner

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Speaker 1: guy you saw in the mirror was Vans Joseph because

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Speaker 1: that's who you fired. But why do coaches get fired? Well, one,

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Speaker 1: I think general managers. It's a little rig Now. First off,

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Speaker 1: coaches make a lot more. Just to put it in context,

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Coaches make a shipload of money. General manager

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Speaker 1: like a highly like John Lynch, who because he had leverage,

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Speaker 1: a high high paid general manager. A good GM salaries

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Speaker 1: So on the line item for the owner there you don't.

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Speaker 1: It's easier to replace. Now, all these guys are necessarily

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Speaker 1: like the change you'd find in your car. For owners. Now,

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Speaker 1: so eating ten million dollars to pay a coach is

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Speaker 1: not that difficult. The other thing with the general manager,

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Speaker 1: I can kind of quantify who you draft and who

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Speaker 1: an unquantifiable thing, like that coach didn't use my player correctly,

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Speaker 1: that coach wasn't running the right scheme, that coach doesn't

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Speaker 1: Steve Kin, for example, who does he sit next to

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Speaker 1: What language? Do they speak? A similar language? Because what

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Speaker 1: up to get this place? They talk similar languages. Most

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Speaker 1: I've talked to a couple owners. They have normal conversations,

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Speaker 1: It's why I when a head coach can speak their language,

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Speaker 1: like Andy Reid, he can talk money and draft value

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Speaker 1: He has great relationships with owners. Clearly, Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 1: What does Bill Belichick do? He can speak Robert Kraft's languages.

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Speaker 1: When you see some of these coaches that just have

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Speaker 1: John Elway is not easy. He's basically like Al Davis Jr.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't own the team. But he's unfire able.

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Speaker 1: He's you know, NFL Royalty is the most famous athlete

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Speaker 1: Like working for John Dorsey that clearly has the owner's

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Speaker 1: So when we're talking about what job is the best opening?

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Speaker 1: Is the Jets job of good opening? Well, I know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Johnson said, the owner or excuse me, the new

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Speaker 1: know who that guy is in Cleveland, John Dorsey, I

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Speaker 1: so you don't get to you know what's Parcel's famous quote.

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Speaker 1: You want me to cook the dinner, but I don't

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Speaker 1: It's one thing if you know Belichicker, Parcels, or hell,

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Speaker 1: Now Here another thing, I don't feel bad for these

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Speaker 1: Where these coaches like Steve Wilkes, like he got screwed.

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Speaker 1: You know he didn't. He's a he's a top one

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Speaker 1: like that's incredible, incredible opportunity. Those guys take those jobs

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Speaker 1: When you do get fired as a GM, you you

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Speaker 1: Phil Savage, former Cleveland Browns general manager who waited a

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense in Arizona. General managers don't get

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Speaker 1: they get they get one. They get make me less money.

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Speaker 1: They get one. They get one job. Now they get

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Speaker 1: two or three coaches. I mean there's gonna be Steve

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Speaker 1: I mean, general managers get a lot of coaches. But

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Speaker 1: it's not a fair fight. And you you understand where

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Speaker 1: the in fighting comes. It's like any job. If you

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Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these GM coaching lationships are

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Speaker 1: very fake. Coaches aren't idiots. They know where you sit

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Speaker 1: during the game. They know that when you're not around,

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Speaker 1: how you're telling the owner, how he's an idiot, how

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Speaker 1: how his assistant coaches are very good, How he doesn't

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Speaker 1: because it's kind of a rig deal from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: The coaches on these teams are always at a disadvantage

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Speaker 1: of two or three years and become kind of like

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Speaker 1: the next Kyle Shanahan, you know, like Kyle kind of

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Speaker 1: became in Atlanta. Adam Gates was actually that guy before

430
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Speaker 1: Miami hired him. You know. Pat Schirmer had a lot

431
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Speaker 1: of buzz a couple of years ago or I guess

432
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Speaker 1: last year. Now he was the Giant's head coach. It's

433
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Speaker 1: harder for gms because we don't quite feel uh, if

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Speaker 1: you're not the if you're an assistant GM or the

435
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Speaker 1: player personnel guy or the college director, it's hard to

436
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Speaker 1: tell what you're really doing. But everyone that follows the

437
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Speaker 1: NFL had heard the name Chris Ballot. I personally have

438
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Speaker 1: never met him, obviously have friends and no people with

439
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs that swear by him. I know Matt n

440
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: Aggie loves him, Beach loves him, Coach Read loves them.

441
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Speaker 1: They all spoke highly of him. But until you really

442
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Speaker 1: know what a guy is doing, it's hard to quite

443
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Speaker 1: quantify it. With a quarterback, it's pretty it's pretty easy, right,

444
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: it's black and white. That's why I never understood the

445
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck haters, and I maybe it's just as simple

446
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: as in life. People resent greatness, Like the dude was

447
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Speaker 1: great in college. He gets drafted number one. Uh, Ryan Grigson,

448
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Speaker 1: who I've worked with, which you know, was laughable when

449
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Speaker 1: he was hired as the GM, arguably would go down

450
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Speaker 1: as the worst general manager in NFL history. Almost ruined

451
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Speaker 1: this great player. He took that team. He took Ryan

452
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Speaker 1: Grits into the playoffs three times. Chuck Pagno, who somehow

453
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Speaker 1: is getting interviews. I wouldn't hire Chuck mcgonald is my

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Speaker 1: head coach with a ten ft poll, but you know,

455
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Speaker 1: Chuck mcgonald was head coach. Andrew Luck overcame at all

456
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Speaker 1: then this year with the help of Chris Ballard, because

457
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Speaker 1: I tipped my hat to Chris Ballard, and maybe I

458
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Speaker 1: should have thought about, like the way I looked at

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Speaker 1: the way their draft had kind of the way they

460
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Speaker 1: approached it. You had to protect Andrew. I kind of

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Speaker 1: get it now, you know, maybe I shouldn't have been

462
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Speaker 1: so stubborn like you can have, you know, kind of

463
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Speaker 1: hard hard set in concrete rules in life, but sometimes

464
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Speaker 1: you have to be flexible to you know, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take running backs in the first round, but se Kwan

466
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Speaker 1: Barclays and Zeke Elliott's I do get it that when

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Speaker 1: you look at what Andrew Luck has accomplished this year

468
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Speaker 1: with the help of Ballard and even Frank Josh McDaniels

469
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Speaker 1: left Chris Ballard at the altar. It's still to this

470
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Speaker 1: day and we may never see anything quite like it again.

471
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Speaker 1: Is one of the craziest things we've ever seen in sports.

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Speaker 1: They end up with Frank Rich they start one in

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Speaker 1: five Andrew early on, you know, as he should have.

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Speaker 1: He hadn't played in a year and a half. He

475
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Speaker 1: was coming off multiple shoulder injuries. Looks rusty. But for

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Speaker 1: them to finish what we are they ten and six,

477
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Speaker 1: the six seed. Uh, they're they're playing the Texans, which

478
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Speaker 1: they're getting two and a half points. I love the

479
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Speaker 1: Colts in this game. Uh. For them to do what

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Speaker 1: they did, it really is might be the best feel

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Speaker 1: good story of the NFL. Uh. And it just speaks

482
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Speaker 1: to Andrew lux greatness. It speaks to Chris Ballard and

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Speaker 1: how good he is as a GM. How the hype

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Speaker 1: all those years about this guy, this number two with

485
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Speaker 1: the Bears and then the Chiefs was justified. This guy

486
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Speaker 1: was that good. And I think the combination of the

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Speaker 1: two of them, and then you gotta get the coach

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Speaker 1: some credit to I think there I saw they shot

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Speaker 1: into the to the locker room. On CBS, Frank Wright said,

490
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Speaker 1: we're only the second team in NFL history to start

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Speaker 1: one and five and make the playoffs. Then I was

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Speaker 1: in the car today and I heard on the radio

493
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Speaker 1: there the third team. So I'm not sure if it's

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Speaker 1: the second or the third team, but clearly it's an

495
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Speaker 1: incredible accomplishment to start one in five and make the playoffs,

496
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Like that's not normal. You know, last year the Charger

497
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: started oh and four, finished nine and seven one game out,

498
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Speaker 1: and they were clearly one of the hotter teams in

499
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Speaker 1: the NFL. But this guy, I think luck through thirty

500
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns this year. He does throw some bad picks,

501
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: but picks never bother me. Like you watch him. He

502
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: clearly is one of the most talented young quarterbacks. Not

503
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Speaker 1: that young anymore. But this is the fourth time he's

504
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Speaker 1: gone to the playoffs, three with Grigson, who is just

505
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: the worst general manager of all time, the fourth coming

506
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Speaker 1: back from shoulder injuries after a one in five start

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Speaker 1: with a head coach that wasn't even supposed to be

508
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Speaker 1: their head coach like this guy, I mean, how many

509
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Speaker 1: more we're looking at a sure fire Hall of Famer,

510
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Speaker 1: one of the great players we've ever seen. We're also

511
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Speaker 1: looking at one of the more dynamic general managers we've

512
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Speaker 1: seen in recent memory. Crushed the last couple of drafts.

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Speaker 1: He's done a great job. Because you have luck, you

514
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Speaker 1: can take some flyers on guys and you're gonna hit

515
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Eric Ebron boom stud. Now those two running backs they

516
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: have Mac and Hines pretty good. T Y Hilton's good.

517
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Speaker 1: If they get one more wide receiver to go with him,

518
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be in good shape. Their defense is good.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they don't lose Uberflus. Also give them credit. They

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Speaker 1: hired uber Flus before they hired McDaniels because McDaniels told

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Speaker 1: him too. And it turns out that guys just good.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just got a good thing going. They

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Speaker 1: went a lot and they feel a lot different this

524
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: time around than they did Andrew lux first couple of

525
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Speaker 1: years and they were making the playoffs. They have a

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Speaker 1: capable GM. Andrew is just better now than he was

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Speaker 1: back then. He's just smarter. He's just more experienced. And

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Speaker 1: they have a head coach that I still don't know

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00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: that much about. Besides, clearly this guy is pretty solid

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Speaker 1: and knows offense. Like Chuck God, I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: what he did. Their defenses were terrible. I know he

532
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Speaker 1: knows nothing about offense, and he clearly was awful of

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Speaker 1: game management. I know, Frank, he's smart, he knows offense,

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Speaker 1: he calls the plays like he just brings more to

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Speaker 1: the table. You know, he brings a lot more to

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Speaker 1: the table. So hat tip to the Colts. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Chris Ballard's gonna win General Manager of the Year.

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00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if Luck You're not gonna

539
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: get the m v P this year. He's gonna get

540
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: it one of these years because he's an m v

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Speaker 1: P caliber player and just in just an incredible story

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00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: of a slow start an incredible finish. And I'll tell

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00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: you this, uh, because kind of lining up, if they

544
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: were to upset the Texans, that means they would get

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the second round. That's that would be

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00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: a tough first round the first game for the Chiefs. Uh,

547
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, This Colts, this Colts team, I think they

548
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: could make a legitimate run in the FC. Okay, let's

549
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: really quick. Once spent too much time. It's crazy because

550
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: Monday in the NFL Black Monday, and the playoff picture

551
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: and everything kind of overshadows and clouds and we forget

552
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: that the playoffs just happened on Saturday, and let's call

553
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: it what it is. There is a little bit of

554
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: a dud. I thought the Clemson game actually looked worse

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Speaker 1: than I even thought. And I thought Tore Dame had

556
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Speaker 1: no chance. They didn't belong. They have way too many

557
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: over you. You cannot have overachievers on your team and

558
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: hang with Clemson or Alabama or hell even Georgia or

559
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Hell L s U. Like do you understand the Blue

560
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: Chippers that are playing in the South, in those three

561
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: or four elite team obviously Bamas in its own little world,

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Speaker 1: and then Clemson L s U in Georgia Like the

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Speaker 1: level of talent which those teams have. I mean Notre

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00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Dame's rolling out a safety looks like a stiff in

565
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: space couldn't cover any sort of NFL type receiver. And

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00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: they just got worked. They did not belong speed wise.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I I don't ever want to

568
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: hear their argument anymore, Like you need to recruit and

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00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: get better players because you do not belong with Ohio

570
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: State with Obama, with Georgia with Clemson, like you're not

571
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: in the same conversation. The same thing for the Pact twelve,

572
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to hear your arguments anymore. From

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00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: now on, it's clear I test when George is a

574
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: badass squad, they belong in. When l s U wins

575
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: one game or loses one game and they los Alabama,

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Speaker 1: they belong in, you know, Ohio State. I'll give them

577
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt moving forward. Over Notre Dame.

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00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: They're dead to me. They don't they've proven their worth

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Speaker 1: and it ain't good enough. You do not belong on

580
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: the big stage, not not with the big boys. Like

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00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: you've gotten your chance now twice in the last five

582
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: or six years, and you've got molly wapped. You got embarrassed.

583
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: They ran circles around you, like the dreams of the overachiever,

584
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: like give me the tough guy. In two thousand and

585
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: eighteen in college football with Bama, with with Ohio State,

586
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Speaker 1: with Clemson, they will pull down their pants and take

587
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: a gigantic poop right on your face. And that's what

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00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: Clemson did the Notre Dame. They looked at him and said,

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Speaker 1: you do not belong on the field with us. And

590
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: they didn't not not, not anywhere close like that quarterback?

591
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: What what was that Ian book? Fun story? And I

592
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: guess he's better than win Bush, the guy they had.

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00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: I got. Do you think that guy would start at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: at Bama, at Clemson, at Ohio State? Come on, and

595
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: then the other game. I'll say this, he he looks small,

596
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to change my tune a little bit.

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00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Just his height would be somewhat of a deterrent for

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Speaker 1: me if I was Mike Mayock or just anyone you know,

599
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: thinking about drafting Kyler Murray as my quarterback. But one

600
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: thing was clear, as I just said about Notre Dame,

601
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: they didn't belong on the field speed wise. I'll tell

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00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: you who belonged. I'll tell you who the best athlete

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00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: of the weekend was. It was Kyler Murray. He was

604
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: running at a different speed. Now, if he's not a quarterback,

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00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: I know for damn sure what he is. And that's

606
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: an elite NFL athlete. Get the balld. Whether that's a

607
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: hybrid running back receiver like Tavon Austin meets you know,

608
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Speaker 1: say Kwan Barkley meets Julian Edelman. I don't even know

609
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: what his position is. I don't even know if he

610
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: can catch. But if he can catch, he's a first

611
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: round NFL player. He was remarkable just in terms of

612
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: his play speed relative to the the Alabama team, which

613
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: is clearly one of the fastest teams you're in, year out.

614
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: Their size and speed is remarkable, and he was flying

615
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: around him. It was eye opening. How fast kid is?

616
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: He is special? Now can he play quarterback? Probably not

617
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: would be really hard because he clearly is really short,

618
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, but with the ball in his hands against

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Speaker 1: other elite players, he is the elitist. You know, he's

620
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Speaker 1: the best elitist. Is that even the work he's just

621
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: he's on a different level speed wise, Like you watch

622
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: him and you go, that's what elite NFL speed looks like.

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00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: Like again, if he can catch, why couldn't he be

624
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: an elite receiver in the NFL level? I mean, look

625
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: at the guys that are playing in the NFL. You know,

626
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: small size wise. Now I'm not saying he's Antonio Brown

627
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: or anything, but what if he doesn't all skills, why

628
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't he plays the outfield? And like so, he tracks

629
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: the ball naturally as an outfielder, I would imagine I'm

630
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: guessing he's got at least adequate hands, maybe above average.

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Speaker 1: If he does, he's a first round player as an athlete,

632
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: just as an athlete. So even if we've come to

633
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: the conclusion, and I think it's you overreact, just like

634
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: you can go both ways, but you you typically overreact

635
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: to one game positively or negatively with one player. So

636
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to overreact and say he can't play

637
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: quarterback though that was my first reaction. But my other

638
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: reaction was, he has one thousand percent an NFL player.

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Speaker 1: One thousand percent has the chance to be a dynamic

640
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: NFL player, one thousand percent has a chance to be

641
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: like a Pro Bowl offensive weapon. I don't even think

642
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: that's arguable. I mean, I think Nick Saban will tell

643
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: you that, like he's never played a player that fast.

644
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: It was I opening how special this kid speed is.

645
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: And I hope selfishly I wouldn't mind him doing both.

646
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't mind him giving football to try, even

647
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: if it means he has chains positions. Okay, I'm gonna

648
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little exercise here. I wrote down

649
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: both conferences the one through six seed in the playoffs,

650
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: and I just did a little word association. I wrote

651
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: one Chiefs and then the first thing I thought of

652
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: a couple of these. I'm not a word smith here,

653
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: so I'm not an English major. Might be two words,

654
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: but I tried to get one word. The first thing

655
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: I thought about heading into the playoffs. You know, clearly

656
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Patriots, Saints and Rams have buys. But I

657
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: went one through six. One through six, we'll start with

658
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: the A f C. The first word that came to

659
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: my mind, because I think this is been one of

660
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: the better NFL seasons start to finish. I think this

661
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: is as open of a playoff you know, you just

662
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: it's often said you just want to get into the dance.

663
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Anything can happen. I think that's never been more true

664
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: this year. So I think this is as good, maybe

665
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: not top to bottom as a playoff field. But I

666
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: do think because there are no at the top, Like

667
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: are the Saints the best team? You know, the Chiefs

668
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: are a pretty flawed one seed, but they are incredible

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00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: on offense. Any of these teams, you know, just looking

670
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: at it, I don't know. I mean, I would be

671
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: the most shocked, probably if the Ravens won the Super Bowl.

672
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: Maybe Houston. But I can see the Chiefs doing it.

673
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I can see the Patriots doing it. I can see

674
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers, can see the Colts, Saints, Rams, Bears, Dallas, Seattle, Philly.

675
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: See all these teams winning. So let's let's start at

676
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: the top. Chiefs number one. When I thought just how

677
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: I think about their season and how I think about

678
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: them going into the playoffs, the first word that came

679
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: to my mind was innovative. I mean, first year Patrick

680
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes starting. What they do on offense, absolutely incredible. No

681
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: coordinator consistently adapts his offense better to his personnel. No coordinator,

682
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: and that's obviously Andy has been more open minded. Uh.

683
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: And it's clear the taught his assistance. You see Doug Peterson,

684
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: you see Matt Naggy, who are playing each other to

685
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: think like that too. And when I think the Kansas

686
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and I think their offense, when I just

687
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: think about their team, I think innovation. Uh. They operate

688
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: like a startup, you know, like they've proven nothing, always

689
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: willing to try things, and it's really paid off this year.

690
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: The Patriots champions. Uh, this is not a very good

691
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Patriot team relative to other teams. I think they lack

692
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: the high end talent. Uh. Their best player beside Brady

693
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: Gronkowski is a shell of himself from what he's been

694
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: at his peak. But Hunter Pence once had a line

695
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: when the Giants won their second World Championship that he

696
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: played on. Obviously they won ten, twelve, and fourteen, and

697
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: he gave a speech in two thousand fourteen when they

698
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: made the playoffs to kind of a pregame speech doesn't

699
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: usually happen in baseball, and the word he used was

700
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: championship blood. And he looked at everyone in in the

701
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: room he said, that's what's in here. The Giants had

702
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: no business winning that third World Series, but they got

703
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: that championship blood. And that's what you have, your Patriot.

704
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: You have that championship blood, that championship d n a Uh.

705
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: You can say what you want. They're not as talented,

706
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: they're not as explosive. All that stuff is true. I

707
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: know this. I don't want to play Belichick and Brady

708
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: in a winner go home game, not in Foxborough, not

709
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: in my home building. I don't want to play them

710
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. This is where my limited vocabulary came in.

711
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: So this is two words I used to slash, so

712
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: it's it's one word top heavy. Uh. They have some

713
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: blue chip players Hopkins elite, what Clowney elite, Watson baller,

714
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: but I can't name it. Honey Badger still really damn good,

715
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: their offensive lines terrible, Lamar Miller is just a guy

716
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: who's our second wide receiver. Who else they really have?

717
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: You know? On defense? But their top heavy, they're they're

718
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: elite players are so good all pro. Clowney and Watt

719
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: are dominant players. The Honey Badger is still an elite

720
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: versatile player, Deshaun Watson is just special, and DeAndre Hopkins

721
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: is arguably the best wide receiver in the NFL. So

722
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: if you are gonna be top heavy, I want to

723
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: be top heavy with that talent. Now, could they beat

724
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots? The Patriots of owned them. Uh So if

725
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: they were to beat Indie, I I don't feel great

726
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: about them going to New England, but I wouldn't necessarily

727
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: count them out. The Ravens a little flukey, I added

728
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: a little, but just flukey because they have a great defense.

729
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: Their defense as a unit is excellent, but they run

730
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: a high school offense. Uh, Lamar Jackson completes anywhere between

731
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: twelve and fifteen balls a game. I'll tell you this.

732
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: In the NFL, in the playoffs, when it's third and seven,

733
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: everyone knows you're throwing. You better be able to complete

734
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: a pass. You can't run the triple option. You can't

735
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: ask your quarterback to run for it. You gotta go

736
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: four or five wide and you gotta complete a pass.

737
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: I know that Mahomes can do it. I know that

738
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: Rady can do it. I know that Watson can do it.

739
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: I know that Rivers can do it, and I know

740
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: that Andrew Luck can do it. Can Lamar Jackson? I'm

741
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: betting against it. It's why my lock of the of

742
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: the whole weekend is the Chargers beating the Ravens. The

743
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: Chargers again not a word Smith, so I had to

744
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: use two words. Don't trust. How can you? Uh, this

745
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: is a big game for Philip Rivers. You can't lose

746
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson. It can't happen. You don't have to

747
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Uh, but you had a great year.

748
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: You gotta win a playoff game, especially when you're playing

749
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback that runs a high school offense, so

750
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: so you gotta find a way to win. But at

751
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the Chargers still are the Chargers,

752
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: and I just don't trust them. It's just really that simple.

753
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Though my lock of the week is the Chargers. I

754
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: plan on putting a large amount of money on them

755
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: plus two and a half. That doesn't mean I feel

756
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: great about it. The Colts ascending. I don't know if

757
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: this is their year. It's probably not, but I know

758
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: Albert Brewer said on Collins Radio show that he thought

759
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: they had a chance to be a potential dynasty. I

760
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: can't disagree. Andrew Luck is a once in a generation quarterback.

761
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Manning, He's a you know, far

762
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: of a young Montana Like, he's an all time great.

763
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: If you can't see it, I can't help you. Maybe

764
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: start watching the w n B A or something. Uh.

765
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: Their defense is really good. I talked about them earlier.

766
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Their GM is really good. They're a team on the come,

767
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: and I'd be shocked next year if they're not a

768
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: one two seed somewhere in there. Like, they're gonna be

769
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: really good next year. Imagine when they don't start one

770
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: in five, what are they gonna go twelve and fourth,

771
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: thirteen and three, like to meet them in the chief

772
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: So are the arrow points straight up at the sky.

773
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to the NFC the Saints home field and

774
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: you're like, of course they have home field. Well for them,

775
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: it matters playing like there. I just it's hard for

776
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: me to see them losing. I just think they're gonna

777
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl. I don't know who's gonna

778
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl, the a f C. You know,

779
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they haven't won a playoff games. It's like

780
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: Joe Montana at you know, at Arrowhead, Patriots or flawed.

781
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: The Texans are weird, the Ravens chart. It's hard. I

782
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm pretty confident that Saints are gonna win

783
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: their two home games. They're gonna get the Cowboys probably

784
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: in the second round. It's gonna be redemption. Pretty easy

785
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: to bulletin board material that team beat them earlier in

786
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: the season, and then they probably get the you know,

787
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: the Bears are the Ramps in that NFC championship game,

788
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: and I think they win. They're just not losing at home.

789
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: So I just when I think you I could have

790
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: uh substituted dome for home field, like, it's just that

791
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: places nuts that they ain't losing their the Rams. This

792
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: is crazy because I thought they were the best team

793
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: in the league a month ago. But when I when

794
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: you just say the Rams, the first thing I think

795
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: of as soft, I just I have a hard time. Honestly.

796
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't think if the Bears win this game, which

797
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be tough, I guess Philly. I think the

798
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Bears go to l a and beat him. Uh, And

799
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: it's just because they're they're just soft. Aaron Donald is

800
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: not soft. Todd Gurley is not soft, but he's injured.

801
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna play in that game, you would imagine.

802
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there was a report today he's

803
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna play, but he's not now. Aaron Donald's a badass,

804
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: but the rest of their defense is not very good.

805
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: Their linebackers are average at best. They do not cover

806
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: very well. So if Aaron Donald doesn't get you multiple sacks,

807
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: you're in trouble. Then Amickensu is a good, big body,

808
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that much. So I don't know, man,

809
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm just in this world I have for the Bears

810
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: is why I think that they're gonna win. They're gonna

811
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: beat the Eagles, and I think they go to l

812
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: A and beat them. They're tough. They When I think

813
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: the Bears, I just think tough and listen. Defense does

814
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: not matter nearly as much as it used to, but

815
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: what they do on defense does matter. They can rush

816
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: the ship out of the passer mac Floyd Hicks. They

817
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: can bring it both. Their linebackers can blitz. Those two

818
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: linebackers can cover sideline to sideline, so even if you're

819
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: running outside, those guys can track them down and then

820
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: they can cover. And I would imagine Eddie Jackson's gonna

821
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: come back. They cant their dvs make place. They leave

822
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: the league into run overs. They're they're just this fan Gio's,

823
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, his two point oh version of what he

824
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: had with Willis Bowman all those guys in San Francisco.

825
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: He's got it kind of again in Chicago. They are

826
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: a badass defense. The Ravens are a fantastic unit. To me,

827
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: the Bears are just elite players and a unit. They're

828
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: They're the best version of what the Ravens just because

829
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: they don't really have as many of the Blue Chippers.

830
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: They just play well as a group. The Bears are

831
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. They played great as a unit,

832
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: and then they just have all pro level players. Like

833
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm telling you ro Kuan Smith not a Pro Bowl

834
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: or anything. That guy's gonna be the best linebacker in

835
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: the league. He once Kick Lee and Bobby Wagner. You know,

836
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: get a little older, Like in three years, Rokuan Smith

837
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: will be the best middle linebacker in the league. Dallas

838
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: speed man that they are. They are elite speed on

839
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: defense the front. They can really rush the passer, both

840
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: the linebackers and Sean Lee. You got vander esh Jalen

841
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Smith and Shawn Lee. If Sean lee hamstring can be

842
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: ripped at any time, and then all their dbs they

843
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: can fly. Their defensive team speed, especially at home, is suffocating.

844
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: And they are playing Russell Wilson, who's mobile. But I

845
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: think those guys chasing after Russell. Everyone's picking. It feels

846
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: like Seattle. I like Dallas in this game. I like

847
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Dallas pretty comfortable. Uh, Seattle, you gotta tip your hat

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Speaker 1: to him. This was the first thing I think of

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Speaker 1: as culture. This was a culture year for them to

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Speaker 1: have this much turnover beside Russell and beside Pete and

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Speaker 1: John Schneider. Those three guys dictate the culture on the team.

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Speaker 1: Their owner died, all their star players are long gone.

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Speaker 1: Even Earl Thomas I rented a stat on Twitter lead

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Speaker 1: the team in interceptions. I mean, you played like three games,

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Speaker 1: broke his leg, lad the team in interceptions. So just

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Speaker 1: an incredible culture season for the Seattle Seahawks and then Philly.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I think of is just one word.

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Speaker 1: It's fulls. I mean Nick Foles, clearly last year tears

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Speaker 1: a c l comes in, they rattle off and win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Just one of the more incredible a

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Speaker 1: couple of months spans we've ever seen in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: Then this year, he starts the opening game on Thursday

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Speaker 1: night against the Atlanta Falcons, who at the time they

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Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries, but that team that the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta rolled out Week one was a playoff team. He

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Speaker 1: beats them, so he's wanted. Though Carson gets hurt again.

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Speaker 1: He starts the next week, he loses, so he's one

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Speaker 1: and one. Then Carson gets hurt. He started the last

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Speaker 1: three games. He's won all three of them, so he

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Speaker 1: he won this year four of the five games he

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Speaker 1: started three of them. Think about this three of them,

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Speaker 1: and you could technically say, because I know it was

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Speaker 1: week one, but they had one week one, they never

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Speaker 1: would have been in this position. But the last three

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Speaker 1: games they had to win just to stay alive. They

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Speaker 1: went nine and seven. They were six and seven three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, six and happen they needed the help from dinosaurs. Zimmer.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta just tip your hat to Nick Foles.

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Speaker 1: Beat the Rams, beat the Texans. I mean, those are

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Speaker 1: two playoff teams. I mean those are those are two

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Speaker 1: big time wins. And I get Washington wasn't a great win,

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Speaker 1: but they came in. We're up pretty easily, and they

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Speaker 1: yanked himut because he can bruce his rips. But man,

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, what a story. What an incredible twelve month

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Speaker 1: run that the guys on. I mean, it's it's fun

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Speaker 1: to watch a sportsman. Okay, let's do a couple quick

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Speaker 1: middlecoff mail bags. Uh, as you know, I I send

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Speaker 1: you off until you're into your New Year's hangover. You

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Speaker 1: are probably hungover listening to this, and I'll be back

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Speaker 1: on Friday with a little playoff preview. But what's up? John?

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Speaker 1: Recent listener to the podcast and I love your takes

892
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Speaker 1: big Vikings fan. While I wasn't a de Filippo hater,

893
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Speaker 1: he definitely wasn't getting it done. That said, if the

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Speaker 1: Vikings went out, maybe even steal a playoff dub does

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski gets serious looks to fill the head coaching

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Speaker 1: vacancy this offseason for another team. Well that this was

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Speaker 1: obviously before the last weekend's game. I did see that

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Speaker 1: Stefanski is going to interview for a head coach. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get an opportunity to become a

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Speaker 1: head coach. I would imagine he'll be the o C

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Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Vikings next year. That assumes, and I

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Speaker 1: still don't think one locked in Stone that Zimmer is back,

903
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Speaker 1: because like I said earlier, it's one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: letdown seasons in recent memory and sports. You know, it

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Speaker 1: happens sometimes like with the Yankees and Red Sox when

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Speaker 1: they like missed the playoffs when they're spending a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. You see it sometimes in baseball in football,

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Speaker 1: every once in a while, a team that you just

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Speaker 1: look at lock should be a playoff team. They have

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Speaker 1: a roster that's just stacked. Then they you know, just

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Speaker 1: destroy a ceiling of guaranteeing every penny and a contract

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Speaker 1: to a quarterback. They did never won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Who was pretty good? We thought, who solid? Even if

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Speaker 1: you're not the biggest Cousins guy, I think you'd have

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Speaker 1: to admit, like, you know, he's pretty good. But eighty

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Speaker 1: four million dollars. They spent eighty four million dollars on

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. And I get their line sucked. But if

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Speaker 1: I would have spent eighty four million dollars on a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if my line sucks. We should still

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And they didn't make the playoffs, So

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Speaker 1: I I am not discounting the chance in the potential

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Speaker 1: opportunity for Zimmer getting fired. UH big listener to the

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Speaker 1: podcast from an UH from a former NFL scout to

924
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Speaker 1: someone who's trying to pursue a job with an NFL team,

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Speaker 1: what advice do you have when trying to get into

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Speaker 1: working for a team. I would like to work in

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Speaker 1: the equipment and or logistics side of the team. I

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Speaker 1: can only speak from a scouting standpoint. You know, I

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Speaker 1: just I worked in college football. I always think that

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Speaker 1: college football is the best stepping stone to get into

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Speaker 1: the NFL for coaches, for personnel people, for anyone. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And so I'd always recommend going that route. You know,

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Speaker 1: try to work if you want to work with logistics,

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Speaker 1: you know, try to get involved with athletic department or

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Speaker 1: a football program wherever you may live to try to

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Speaker 1: help you know that team travel schedule. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be my advice. Try to work

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Speaker 1: for a college team. Uh. And that's usually a good

939
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Speaker 1: kind of stepping stone to get to the pros question

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Speaker 1: for the pod, couldn't Kyler try football for two or

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Speaker 1: three years and if it went poorly, then go pursue baseball.

942
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Speaker 1: One on a much poor poor man's version like what

943
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Speaker 1: we've seen Tebow do got drafted in the first round,

944
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Speaker 1: failed in the NFL, and then tried baseball. I think

945
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray could be the much better version of that.

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Speaker 1: The difference is, like, he probably is not gonna be

947
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Speaker 1: able to play quarterback. Uh, he'd have to play another positions.

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Speaker 1: So would he play wide receiver for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: If he plays wide receiver and he can catch, he

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Speaker 1: will not fail. Like we've seen how talented this guy is.

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Speaker 1: He will play. They'll give him end a rounds, they'll

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Speaker 1: snap him the ball directly. They'll do a lot of

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Speaker 1: ship for this guy. So I if he went to

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Speaker 1: the NFL, unlike Tebow, who could not play quarterback like Kyler,

955
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Speaker 1: can do so many other things that I think he would,

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Speaker 1: he won't fail. Now. I could see him maybe realizing

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Speaker 1: I don't want to not play quarterback. I want to

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Speaker 1: play other positions. So I go, I try it, and

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Speaker 1: then I end up doing something else. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I definitely think that would be in the cards. Well.

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Speaker 1: Watching the end of this Utah Northwestern game, Pat Fitzgerald,

962
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Speaker 1: who just actually they were down pretty big I think

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Speaker 1: twenty three to Utah and came back to win this game.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a guy to watch seriously for the

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Speaker 1: next head coach of the Green Bay Packers. I think

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Speaker 1: that that would one be in play next head coach

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. I'm saying fifty fifty right now.

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Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald, thanks again for everyone for listening. Two thousand

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Speaker 1: nineteens is here. Super excited. Uh and just you know, thanks,

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Speaker 1: thanks for everyone that's been listening to this, whether you've

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Speaker 1: you've been here nine months or however long we've been

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Speaker 1: going or you just got kind of in the mix

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Speaker 1: the last month to during football season. UH, this has

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Speaker 1: been a fun ride. We plan on making it even

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Speaker 1: a bigger two thousand nineteen, So thank thanks again for everything.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, UH for three and out podcast. Tell

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Speaker 1: all your friends to subscribe. I'll keep pumping them out

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Speaker 1: being m