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Speaker 2: Good morning this Thursday, January twenty eighth. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: So poor Vanderbilt did not win a game in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: That's bizarre. That's not even going to look at on

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Speaker 1: That maroon and faded gold is not your palette, your

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Speaker 2: this is really good. I appreciate. Yeah, your tip off

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Speaker 1: I really want to warn you of one more thing, Trey,

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Speaker 1: Beautiful Week one already, so let down. It's basically a

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Speaker 2: Hey Josh joining us. He had a busy day hosting

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Speaker 2: as well on the Late Kick podcast. Thanks again to him.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to our producer Lance Glinn for putting this thing together,

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Speaker 2: including finding some four or five clips from Hypel's press

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Speaker 2: and I said, Lance, they all kind of sound like

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Speaker 1: Fun times as always conversing with co workers. You may

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Speaker 1: were following me on Twitter at Late Kick, Josh. As

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