WEBVTT - TGI – Episode 405 “Shallow Boy” 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.720 So before we jump into today's episode, we have an email. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.000 Lauren M writes in that she is a huge fan 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.080 of both the pod and the show after rewatching episode 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.640 four point two, in which Eric is dreaming about Spanish baseball. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.320 And I'm sure other eagle eyed fans caught this before, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.120 but I realize. 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.839 The boys constantly switch beds. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.080 We've had this conversation, I think before. Do they actually 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:43.839 switch beds? Well? 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.559 Yes, because if you'll remember the episode when you were 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:48.720 with you had the Nancy Kerrigan episode, you were in 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.800 the upstage bed, right, and then also. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.640 Corey, yeah, there's a box. Corey, there's a box on 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.320 your face. I think was in the other bed. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:56.200 He do, yes. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:58.320 And then in this one where you wake up with 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.320 the Spanish base bowl, you're in the other bed. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.560 So you're in the downstage bed for that one. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.039 So she said, we all know consistency is not a 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.480 Boy Meets World strong point, but would you guess this 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.800 was purely a camera blocking issue. The set design needed 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.680 to be updated as well, which means the bedroom set 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:14.759 was always evolving. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:17.840 And yes, it's just a blocking thing. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.120 I remember Ben and I having that conversation on set, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.199 being like, wait, a second, weren't you in that bed 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.960 last time? I don't know, I think, and we couldn't remember. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.080 I think I was in this bed. I think you 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.960 were in that bed. Yeah, it just kind of became 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.000 much like the Little Sisters on your show or whatever 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:34.400 we needed. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.800 Are we going to see the bedroom that much more? Like? 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.040 I don't remember it. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.480 I can think of two more scenes where we definitely 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:43.480 see the bedroom cellar. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.199 Oh, chick like me, chicklick me into the bed, okay. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.640 And I know there's one where Eric leaves and comes 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:50.960 back and kicks in the door when there's now one 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.040 bed in there. Corey thinks it's just his room. So 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.240 I remember that. But towards the end, I don't know 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.840 how much monaw the bedroom. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:01:59.919 Why do you think Corey and Eric are switching beds? 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.440 I think it's just they were so drunk by that point. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.360 Wherever they passed out, that's where they landed exactly. Corey 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:07.720 was a big drinker. A lot of people didn't know 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.160 that about not. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.000 Ben, whoever had the most to drink that day, got 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.000 the bed closest. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.520 To the bath, closest to the bath exactly. Now, it 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.200 was just the camera thing. It's like all right, Yeah, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.160 this is your bed today. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.600 Yeah, it's so funny because I am such a creature 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.520 of habit. Even when I'm in a hotel room by myself, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.120 I have to sleep on my. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.600 Same side of the absolutely right or not? 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.720 You you just don't care. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.080 No, I don't think the middle. I definitely, like have noticed, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.160 I still gravitate to us side, but there's no like regularity. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.840 Have you ever dated a person who slept on your 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.080 side of the bed and after the first time you 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.960 shared a bed, you're like, this isn't gonna. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.600 Work, not gonna work. So you have the same side 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.960 of the bed no matter who you're dating. Yeah, I 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.040 have my side side of the way since you were 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:55.160 a child or since like. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.960 Oh, I didn't date that many people as a child, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.000 But I don't understand how many. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.760 I'm betting the night at your house when you were. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.600 Seven, Well, yeah, exactly. I got around at seven, Okay, 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:06.000 I did. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.400 At some point, At some point you were old enough 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.680 to have your own Queen's eye bed or whatever double 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.959 sized bed, and you picked a side at that point 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.639 and haven't adjusted no matter what. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.880 Yeah, yeah, I think. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.320 That's what if What if the person like your partner 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.040 what if Susan came into your life and was like, 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.840 well no, just as insistent that this is. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.160 Her, So it'd never been been a great first and 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.040 second date and then and then we both would have 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:30.120 shook hands and. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:30.760 Been on her way. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.360 Too bad, this didn't work out, And sorry, this didn't. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:38.640 Work out, Sarah. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:39.080 I do. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.560 I don't remember if I have ended up going back, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.600 but I do, And it may have even been with Jensen. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.400 I do know at one point there was a situation 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.200 where somebody was very much like, well, this is my 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.520 side of the bed, and I was kind of like, well, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.080 that's also my the bed. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.040 And so what are we gonna do here, and then 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.360 being like somebody's gonna be compromise. Yeah, being at the 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.560 beginning of a relationship like it's okay, I'll just I'll 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.240 just sleep on the side of the bed. And then 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.040 I don't I think I just got used to that 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.600 side and maybe now that's oh no, Jensen just wrote 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.400 I switched sides. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.320 Somebody. I think both of you guys are just domineering 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:19.360 and you're very partners. Yeah, we're like, okay, I guess 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.320 we this is an argument I'm not gonna win. I'll 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:22.760 just go to the other side of the bed. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:23.520 Yeah. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.080 Yeah, that's the window into your lives. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.560 Okay, it doesn't have to be my way. You just 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:30.800 don't have to do it. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.400 Just worked out my life. It's always worked out everywhere. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:39.680 There's always more right. I don't know what you're talking about. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.719 Consider another person, guys, partner, I just can't. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:48.800 I consider her from my left works. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:49.599 Wow. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.960 Will and I also have a no touching rule while sleeping. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.520 You do stay on your side of the bed. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.479 Just get married, just like get married, make a sick together, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.839 make America happy. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:05.920 We both be on the same side of the bed. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.039 You're not touching each other. You'd each have their own 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.839 beds with one side you know sleep. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:11.880 Will and I have a deal breaker. I already tell 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.279 you why our marriage doesn't work. I cannot and will 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:14.880 not sleep. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.080 With a TV on, and I cannot and will not 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.080 sleep without the TV. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.479 So nice knowing you will, yes, sir, exactly. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.080 Great means Darnel's not gonna work out. 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:30.520 Welcome to Bond Meets World. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.360 I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm rather strong, and I'm wil for do. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.799 Today we are recapping season four, episode five, Shallow Boy. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.760 It originally aired October eighteenth, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.720 Eric starts dating a highly optimistic musician, but her constant 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.800 perkiness starts to annoy him. After it, Eric Dumpster, he 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.839 finds himself the topic of a scathing hit song on 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.400 the radio. Meanwhile, Topanga does not like Corey's habit of 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.960 being pals with kids instead of parenting them. It was 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.520 directed by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Jeff Sherman. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.840 It's a musical episode, so we should be shocked there 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.240 before I jump into the guest stars. Do you guys 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.200 want to say any overall thoughts. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.800 I mean, it's a classic episode. Yeah, pretty. You know, 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.800 my expectations were actually a little high. Really, I agree, 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.520 and because we had been talking about this one. And 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.960 here's what I'll say, Like, there are probably two I mean, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.880 the Will's performance just takes her performance like there are 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.080 like two scenes with her and Chubby's where the two 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.800 of you just are so good. And then I would 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.320 say that the scene with Ben and the kid are 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.760 is hysteric like some of the best scenes. And but 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.520 then over overall it's actually a pretty It was more 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.440 predictable than I kind of remembered like that makes sense, 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.640 but maybe because I just I don't know, my expectations. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:01.680 Were a little hot. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.599 But it's it's very tidy. I guess it is my 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:04.440 only criticism. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.640 It's a very sitcom episode. Yeah, but I kind of 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.240 like it. And for the first time though serious topanga 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.280 red flags, I know. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.480 Yeah, the Pig episode two, Pig episode two. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.920 Yeah, the episode was there and it was weird. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.600 It was like, oh, we're playing on the like psychoanaggyman. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:23.160 I know. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.280 I was like, and then it doesn't. It changes kind 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.200 of for no reason, like you just show up. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.760 And everything's open at the end. It's like I just 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:29.400 thought about it. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.880 Yeah, but there's aapanga, some topanga red flags there. You know. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.360 It's funny though, I imagine if you were sitting at 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.400 home on Friday night and you were just waiting for 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.040 a normal episode of Boy Meets World like this one 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.080 would blow your mind. Like the whole notion of a 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.200 girl singing and the song is because we knew what 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.840 to expect, we remembered the story. It did feel a 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.800 little like we could see the mechanics clicking in place 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.560 a little too. But I bet you if you didn't know. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.680 If you just watched this blind, it's brilliant. It was great. 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.840 Yeah, I agree it I didn't remember the storyline. 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:00.320 I didn't. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.480 I didn't remember. I didn't. I didn't remember it. I 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:04.920 still saw where it was going. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.120 It was all I know. Yeah, yeah, I know exactly 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.440 what's gonna happen here. Yeah. But I loved it and 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:11.840 it was so fun. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:17.120 And sometimes we have had issues when a major storyline 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.800 is given to a character we know we're never going 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.800 to see again. But in this case, I love it. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.920 It's so it worked so well. It was really fun. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.960 And Shesha Haley, she is just incredible. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.480 How this episode without somebody of that talent. I mean, like, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.400 this episode doesn't work unless. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.920 You have her, like first TV job. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:40.240 Ever, Yeah I remember that. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:41.839 Ever, it was into unbelievable. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.120 This was also one of the episodes for me, which 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.360 we've now had a couple, where I didn't realize that 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.800 two kind of famous storylines were in the same episode. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.000 I didn't because the whole bend thing with them, they're 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.760 trying to kill it, They're trying to kill I didn't 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.280 know that was the shallow Boy episode. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.800 But that's what you remember, is that one that okay, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.480 that one exchange, which is like one of the best 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.960 meta exchanges boy Bets World has ever ever. I don't 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.000 remember why he was babysitting. I don't remember anything. I 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.280 just remember that exchange, and like so I didn't remember 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:10.280 the rest of the story. 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:11.440 I didn't know. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.000 That any episode. I didn't know this was that was this? 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.679 E Now I have a question for you before we 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.200 jump in, So we now know the show is at 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.040 nine thirty instead of eight thirty, right, were there any 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.920 more because I looked for this and couldn't find any. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.680 Were there any more quote unquote adult jokes that you 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.800 could find with the hour later in the in the I. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.960 Mean only a lot of the stuff about having a baby, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.080 yeah baby. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.720 Yeah, like that we've only kissing. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.280 So there was more sexual talk in this one, and 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.840 that's the only thing I noticed. But there was never 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.160 like a double entonjoorn innuendo. I was waiting for that, like, okay, let's. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.600 See, well, but the show is going to get older, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.120 because don't we talk about sex like from season on 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.640 the lines losing his virginity and yeah, so I think 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.480 we're just aging with our characters more than the time slot. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:58.520 I wonder though if you can get I think you 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.240 could probably get away with more at nine thirty than 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.160 you candidate thirty. Right, not a thing. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.679 Part of TG. I you don't think the whole point. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:10.160 Wasn't hanging with mister Cooper just basically a porn. I 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:11.840 never saw it. I could be wrong. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.400 I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.400 One now I feel awful, but I don't remember. How 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.160 is it Leisha or Leisha? I think it's Lisha, Lisha Haley, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:21.839 Lisha Haley. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.520 That's what I thought too, Okay, So I'm gonna say 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.800 Lesha Haley. And if we end up discovering. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.400 It's the wrong way, yeah, go back in and we 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.719 can add it in Laisia. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:37.240 Because because when I really liked exactly, we'll go back 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:37.679 and do that. 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:42.440 So guest starring Leisha Haley as Corina Collins, and I, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.640 like I mentioned, I cannot believe this is her first 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.920 job on TV. She would go on to star in 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.559 the L Word and appear on Bosh, Silicon Valley and The. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.679 L Word Reboot Generation Q. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.120 We have also an awesome band, remember the ban you 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.199 bought me, You bought me the Murmurs album. He's in 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.640 a band called the Murmurs, and you bought me the 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.920 album one day and I still listen to it. Literally, yep. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.720 I can't wait to talk to her about that. And 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.920 then we have Devin O'Brien as Missus Epperson. She appeared 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.200 in the nineteen eighty three film Terms of Endearment, and 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:18.360 then film Yes, Zach Pfeiffer as mister Epperson, who made 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.400 some interesting choices. He's a bit of a Hollywood journeyman, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.720 having appeared on Moonlighting, Perfect Strangers, and Murphy Brown and 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.559 in movies like Get Shorty Adams, Family Values, and Romy 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.679 and Michelle's High School Reunion. And then Jonathan Ausser as 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.560 Billy Epperson. He played a young Adam Sandler in the 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.800 movie Anger Management and appeared in the very weird Todd 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:46.400 Solan's movie Storytelling He's So Good. And then Jack Grayman 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.400 as Bum. He only has three credits, and the only 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.319 other one I recognized. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:57.040 Was as cop On Seinfeld. All right, so jumping into 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.000 our recap, we start in the wilderness outpost. We see 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.160 the exterior, some more money they threw our way, and 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.000 we see a girl in a large hat is playing 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.720 the guitar. And singing outside and Eric is intrigued. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.400 Now, this exterior is clearly not linked to the interior, 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.319 right because they had the window covered. Because I was 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.240 trying to imagine, is like where was this on our set? 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.800 It was like, Oh, they just built this. And then 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.599 you have to like slide into the door so you 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.839 can't actually see inside. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.960 And the sign actually says Matthews, which I liked. It 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.920 was the Matthews Wilderness Store, which is nice. Yep, but yeah, 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.880 it was certainly a swing set m M. And then 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.439 she has the fake kind of keeping her head down 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.120 down the entire time. Yeah, do you guys. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.160 Remember when she showed up at the table read, yes, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.600 with her absolutely, she don't know to every song this 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.000 week before the table read, so she had lyrics, so 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.839 they in the script Sherman had only written lyrics for her, 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.319 and she showed up with a guitar and wrote had 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.120 written every song, and I swear to god, it didn't change. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.760 She showed up and had what eight eight nine different 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.000 songs written to the lyrics and it was perfect. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.000 And the all acoustic act, you know. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:07.840 What's even crazier. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.160 One of the reasons she got this job, aside from 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.600 the fact that she's incredible is probably because by the 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.640 time she went into the audition, she had already written 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.760 the song to whatever those sides you must have. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.559 Yeah, I don't know what this. I would love to 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.520 ask Sherman about this. I'm sure she showed up and 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.120 sang a cappella in the audition. I don't know. But 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.040 but when at the table head, I just remember we 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.120 were all like, oh, we have all on episode because 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.120 of her, because she just had taken these lyrics and 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.880 I mean it's not like super complicated, but it works perfect. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.280 I wonder if she did audition because I remember distinctly 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.520 hearing a story that I think it was Sherman and 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.760 Nelson and Blutman might have been there too, went to 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.760 a Murmurs concert specifically to see her. I don't know 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.839 if this was before or after that. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.600 You can't assume that somebody can ask based. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.120 I don't know's hear the story. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.160 Yeah, she must have auditioned because she was great well. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.840 A panhandler and ragged closed next to her begs Eric 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:01.320 to make. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:02.679 It stuck a bum. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.040 Sorry, you're right, it's a bum. I was gonna say, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:07.720 an unhoused human. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:12.360 No, it's the nineties. They're a boom boom. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.440 Eric finds the comment disturbing and throws some money into 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.480 the girl's guitar case. She continues singing that a handsome 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.520 passerby tosses me a twenty dollars bill. Eric smiles at 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.720 the handsome passerby compliment, but when he hears twenty dollars bill, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.280 he realizes he's made a mistake and quickly takes the 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:29.960 money back. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:33.640 I just love. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.720 Eric walks into the store, and as the girl continues 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.200 to sing outside, Alan begs Eric to close the door. 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.480 Eric jokes, a little too perky for you out there 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.400 this morning we hear a new song. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.600 It's a lollipop day, a jolly Wally Molly Dolly. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.960 Eric finally closes the door and Alan complains, no one's 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:55.600 coming in here. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.120 She's scaring all the customers away. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.440 Eric asks, would you rather have the smelly old guy 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.920 who used to s spit on people? And without hesitation, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.160 Alan says, yeah, get him and get rid of her. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.280 Eric asks why he has to do this, and Alan responds, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.960 because we're equal partners in this business, and I'm your father, 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.040 and you do what I tell you to do, which 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.320 I love. I love that now we're already like. I 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.160 love how this completely ties in, reminds the audience, Hey, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.200 Eric's a partner in this, this is actually their business together. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.080 But then I also love the very like just that's 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.160 exactly what happens with parents, is that at a certain 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.040 point they go, I don't care you're doing it because 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:32.080 I said so, I said. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.240 This is so. I distinctly remember this was kind of 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.560 the start of Rusty and I bonding as actors and 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.400 as people. Was the Wilderness Store, because all of a 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.960 sudden we were together every week. We're in that Wilderness 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.560 Store for most of this season. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.520 I mean, and you've said that before. I remember talking 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.640 about that when when we first started this podcast, that 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.920 you didn't connect with Rusty until the last seasons. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.480 Until the later scenes, and this is where it really 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.480 started to happen. I don't think, and again I don't. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.600 I don't blame him because I didn't really know what 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.240 I was doing. I don't think he respected me much 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.320 as an actor when we started, and again I was 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.840 the cardboard cutout prop where I'd walk in and Chris 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.680 I was very stiff and girls girls, and didn't do 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.000 anything with the with you know, to make it my own, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.040 and I think he started to notice that I was 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.120 growing as an actor. And then we were together and 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.720 we were playing off of each other, and at that 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.240 point then it was just smooth sailing. But this is 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.240 really where it started, was all the Wilderness store stuff, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.280 so this is important. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.480 Eric walks outside to do the deed, but as he's 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.680 about to break the news, she looks up and he 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.960 sees her beautiful face. He immediately joins her in singing 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.640 the last line of her song and I feel good, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.320 and he gives her all of his money. Eric walks 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.280 back into the store and Alan asks if it's done, 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.160 but Eric admits, of course it's not done. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.240 I mean, do you know me at all? 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.680 Alan knowingly says she smiled at you, and Eric acts 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.520 out her smile, saying, geh. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:54.800 Such a Michael Jacobs. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.200 The few times I could see you doing a ready, yeah, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.840 old joke, got it? Deliver it, yep, because you wouldn't 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:04.439 have done it that way. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:04.840 You would have. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.760 So get ahead, yeah, because you know I wrote in 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:10.879 the script and. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.000 You were like, what am I supposed to? 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.879 Yeah? And Michael, just right when I saw it, I 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.520 was like, oh, yep, yep. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.000 Alan size and tells Eric to take her to lunch 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.320 and ask her to take her act further down the road. 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.000 He questions, can you handle that? Eric scoffs cannot handle that? Yeah, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.960 I can handle that or fail to do so. But 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.080 I'm gonna need some money, so can you give me some? 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.760 Because I gave her all of mine and it just 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.560 sets this whole episode up absolutely perfectly. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.879 I want that scene back. As an actor, you know, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.200 you watch and I don't think it was bad. But 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.240 as an actor, you watch and you're like, in my head, 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.720 I missed nine jokes. So I'm like, oh, I want 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.679 to go back and do that again. That's just how 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:49.000 I am. It's like I want to go back and 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:49.440 do it again. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.560 So that's this episode bad. This is This is like 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.080 the Olympics of sitcom acting. Watching this this No, it's amazing. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.639 I mean here, I was thinking about watching the episode, Like, 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:04.520 what what defines sitcom or I mean comedy acting in general. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.960 With sitcom in particular, is the ability to commit and transition. 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.000 So like the ability to do commit to something one 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.280