Speaker 1: So before we jump into today's episode, we have an email.
Speaker 1: Lauren M writes in that she is a huge fan
Speaker 1: of both the pod and the show after rewatching episode
Speaker 1: four point two, in which Eric is dreaming about Spanish baseball.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure other eagle eyed fans caught this before,
Speaker 1: but I realize.
Speaker 2: The boys constantly switch beds.
Speaker 3: We've had this conversation, I think before. Do they actually
Speaker 3: switch beds? Well?
Speaker 1: Yes, because if you'll remember the episode when you were
Speaker 1: with you had the Nancy Kerrigan episode, you were in
Speaker 1: the upstage bed, right, and then also.
Speaker 3: Corey, yeah, there's a box. Corey, there's a box on
Speaker 3: your face. I think was in the other bed.
Speaker 4: He do, yes.
Speaker 1: And then in this one where you wake up with
Speaker 1: the Spanish base bowl, you're in the other bed.
Speaker 2: So you're in the downstage bed for that one.
Speaker 1: So she said, we all know consistency is not a
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World strong point, but would you guess this
Speaker 1: was purely a camera blocking issue. The set design needed
Speaker 1: to be updated as well, which means the bedroom set
Speaker 1: was always evolving.
Speaker 2: And yes, it's just a blocking thing.
Speaker 3: I remember Ben and I having that conversation on set,
Speaker 3: being like, wait, a second, weren't you in that bed
Speaker 3: last time? I don't know, I think, and we couldn't remember.
Speaker 3: I think I was in this bed. I think you
Speaker 3: were in that bed. Yeah, it just kind of became
Speaker 3: much like the Little Sisters on your show or whatever
Speaker 3: we needed.
Speaker 4: Are we going to see the bedroom that much more? Like?
Speaker 4: I don't remember it.
Speaker 3: I can think of two more scenes where we definitely
Speaker 3: see the bedroom cellar.
Speaker 4: Oh, chick like me, chicklick me into the bed, okay.
Speaker 3: And I know there's one where Eric leaves and comes
Speaker 3: back and kicks in the door when there's now one
Speaker 3: bed in there. Corey thinks it's just his room. So
Speaker 3: I remember that. But towards the end, I don't know
Speaker 3: how much monaw the bedroom.
Speaker 4: Why do you think Corey and Eric are switching beds?
Speaker 3: I think it's just they were so drunk by that point.
Speaker 3: Wherever they passed out, that's where they landed exactly. Corey
Speaker 3: was a big drinker. A lot of people didn't know
Speaker 3: that about not.
Speaker 1: Ben, whoever had the most to drink that day, got
Speaker 1: the bed closest.
Speaker 3: To the bath, closest to the bath exactly. Now, it
Speaker 3: was just the camera thing. It's like all right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is your bed today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny because I am such a creature
Speaker 1: of habit. Even when I'm in a hotel room by myself,
Speaker 1: I have to sleep on my.
Speaker 3: Same side of the absolutely right or not?
Speaker 2: You you just don't care.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think the middle. I definitely, like have noticed,
Speaker 4: I still gravitate to us side, but there's no like regularity.
Speaker 3: Have you ever dated a person who slept on your
Speaker 3: side of the bed and after the first time you
Speaker 3: shared a bed, you're like, this isn't gonna.
Speaker 4: Work, not gonna work. So you have the same side
Speaker 4: of the bed no matter who you're dating. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: have my side side of the way since you were
Speaker 4: a child or since like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't date that many people as a child,
Speaker 3: But I don't understand how many.
Speaker 2: I'm betting the night at your house when you were.
Speaker 3: Seven, Well, yeah, exactly. I got around at seven, Okay,
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: At some point, At some point you were old enough
Speaker 4: to have your own Queen's eye bed or whatever double
Speaker 4: sized bed, and you picked a side at that point
Speaker 4: and haven't adjusted no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: That's what if What if the person like your partner
Speaker 4: what if Susan came into your life and was like,
Speaker 4: well no, just as insistent that this is.
Speaker 3: Her, So it'd never been been a great first and
Speaker 3: second date and then and then we both would have
Speaker 3: shook hands and.
Speaker 4: Been on her way.
Speaker 2: Too bad, this didn't work out, And sorry, this didn't.
Speaker 3: Work out, Sarah.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I don't remember if I have ended up going back,
Speaker 1: but I do, And it may have even been with Jensen.
Speaker 1: I do know at one point there was a situation
Speaker 1: where somebody was very much like, well, this is my
Speaker 1: side of the bed, and I was kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: that's also my the bed.
Speaker 5: And so what are we gonna do here, and then
Speaker 5: being like somebody's gonna be compromise. Yeah, being at the
Speaker 5: beginning of a relationship like it's okay, I'll just I'll
Speaker 5: just sleep on the side of the bed. And then
Speaker 5: I don't I think I just got used to that
Speaker 5: side and maybe now that's oh no, Jensen just wrote
Speaker 5: I switched sides.
Speaker 4: Somebody. I think both of you guys are just domineering
Speaker 4: and you're very partners. Yeah, we're like, okay, I guess
Speaker 4: we this is an argument I'm not gonna win. I'll
Speaker 4: just go to the other side of the bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the window into your lives.
Speaker 3: Okay, it doesn't have to be my way. You just
Speaker 3: don't have to do it.
Speaker 4: Just worked out my life. It's always worked out everywhere.
Speaker 4: There's always more right. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Consider another person, guys, partner, I just can't.
Speaker 3: I consider her from my left works.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Will and I also have a no touching rule while sleeping.
Speaker 2: You do stay on your side of the bed.
Speaker 4: Just get married, just like get married, make a sick together,
Speaker 4: make America happy.
Speaker 3: We both be on the same side of the bed.
Speaker 4: You're not touching each other. You'd each have their own
Speaker 4: beds with one side you know sleep.
Speaker 1: Will and I have a deal breaker. I already tell
Speaker 1: you why our marriage doesn't work. I cannot and will
Speaker 1: not sleep.
Speaker 3: With a TV on, and I cannot and will not
Speaker 3: sleep without the TV.
Speaker 2: So nice knowing you will, yes, sir, exactly.
Speaker 3: Great means Darnel's not gonna work out.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Bond Meets World.
Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm rather strong, and I'm wil for do.
Speaker 1: Today we are recapping season four, episode five, Shallow Boy.
Speaker 1: It originally aired October eighteenth, nineteen ninety six. The synopsis
Speaker 1: Eric starts dating a highly optimistic musician, but her constant
Speaker 1: perkiness starts to annoy him. After it, Eric Dumpster, he
Speaker 1: finds himself the topic of a scathing hit song on
Speaker 1: the radio. Meanwhile, Topanga does not like Corey's habit of
Speaker 1: being pals with kids instead of parenting them. It was
Speaker 1: directed by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Jeff Sherman.
Speaker 1: It's a musical episode, so we should be shocked there
Speaker 1: before I jump into the guest stars. Do you guys
Speaker 1: want to say any overall thoughts.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a classic episode. Yeah, pretty. You know,
Speaker 4: my expectations were actually a little high. Really, I agree,
Speaker 4: and because we had been talking about this one. And
Speaker 4: here's what I'll say, Like, there are probably two I mean,
Speaker 4: the Will's performance just takes her performance like there are
Speaker 4: like two scenes with her and Chubby's where the two
Speaker 4: of you just are so good. And then I would
Speaker 4: say that the scene with Ben and the kid are
Speaker 4: is hysteric like some of the best scenes. And but
Speaker 4: then over overall it's actually a pretty It was more
Speaker 4: predictable than I kind of remembered like that makes sense,
Speaker 4: but maybe because I just I don't know, my expectations.
Speaker 3: Were a little hot.
Speaker 4: But it's it's very tidy. I guess it is my
Speaker 4: only criticism.
Speaker 3: It's a very sitcom episode. Yeah, but I kind of
Speaker 3: like it. And for the first time though serious topanga
Speaker 3: red flags, I know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Pig episode two, Pig episode two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the episode was there and it was weird.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, we're playing on the like psychoanaggyman.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I was like, and then it doesn't. It changes kind
Speaker 4: of for no reason, like you just show up.
Speaker 2: And everything's open at the end. It's like I just
Speaker 2: thought about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's aapanga, some topanga red flags there. You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny though, I imagine if you were sitting at
Speaker 4: home on Friday night and you were just waiting for
Speaker 4: a normal episode of Boy Meets World like this one
Speaker 4: would blow your mind. Like the whole notion of a
Speaker 4: girl singing and the song is because we knew what
Speaker 4: to expect, we remembered the story. It did feel a
Speaker 4: little like we could see the mechanics clicking in place
Speaker 4: a little too. But I bet you if you didn't know.
Speaker 4: If you just watched this blind, it's brilliant. It was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree it I didn't remember the storyline.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember. I didn't. I didn't remember it. I
Speaker 1: still saw where it was going.
Speaker 2: It was all I know. Yeah, yeah, I know exactly
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen here. Yeah. But I loved it and
Speaker 2: it was so fun.
Speaker 1: And sometimes we have had issues when a major storyline
Speaker 1: is given to a character we know we're never going
Speaker 1: to see again. But in this case, I love it.
Speaker 1: It's so it worked so well. It was really fun.
Speaker 1: And Shesha Haley, she is just incredible.
Speaker 4: How this episode without somebody of that talent. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: this episode doesn't work unless.
Speaker 2: You have her, like first TV job.
Speaker 3: Ever, Yeah I remember that.
Speaker 2: Ever, it was into unbelievable.
Speaker 3: This was also one of the episodes for me, which
Speaker 3: we've now had a couple, where I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: two kind of famous storylines were in the same episode.
Speaker 3: I didn't because the whole bend thing with them, they're
Speaker 3: trying to kill it, They're trying to kill I didn't
Speaker 3: know that was the shallow Boy episode.
Speaker 4: But that's what you remember, is that one that okay,
Speaker 4: that one exchange, which is like one of the best
Speaker 4: meta exchanges boy Bets World has ever ever. I don't
Speaker 4: remember why he was babysitting. I don't remember anything. I
Speaker 4: just remember that exchange, and like so I didn't remember
Speaker 4: the rest of the story.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: That any episode. I didn't know this was that was this?
Speaker 3: E Now I have a question for you before we
Speaker 3: jump in, So we now know the show is at
Speaker 3: nine thirty instead of eight thirty, right, were there any
Speaker 3: more because I looked for this and couldn't find any.
Speaker 3: Were there any more quote unquote adult jokes that you
Speaker 3: could find with the hour later in the in the I.
Speaker 1: Mean only a lot of the stuff about having a baby,
Speaker 1: yeah baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that we've only kissing.
Speaker 3: So there was more sexual talk in this one, and
Speaker 3: that's the only thing I noticed. But there was never
Speaker 3: like a double entonjoorn innuendo. I was waiting for that, like, okay, let's.
Speaker 4: See, well, but the show is going to get older,
Speaker 4: because don't we talk about sex like from season on
Speaker 4: the lines losing his virginity and yeah, so I think
Speaker 4: we're just aging with our characters more than the time slot.
Speaker 3: I wonder though if you can get I think you
Speaker 3: could probably get away with more at nine thirty than
Speaker 3: you candidate thirty. Right, not a thing.
Speaker 4: Part of TG. I you don't think the whole point.
Speaker 3: Wasn't hanging with mister Cooper just basically a porn. I
Speaker 3: never saw it. I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong.
Speaker 1: One now I feel awful, but I don't remember. How
Speaker 1: is it Leisha or Leisha? I think it's Lisha, Lisha Haley,
Speaker 1: Lisha Haley.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought too, Okay, So I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: Lesha Haley. And if we end up discovering.
Speaker 1: It's the wrong way, yeah, go back in and we
Speaker 1: can add it in Laisia.
Speaker 2: Because because when I really liked exactly, we'll go back
Speaker 2: and do that.
Speaker 1: So guest starring Leisha Haley as Corina Collins, and I,
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, I cannot believe this is her first
Speaker 1: job on TV. She would go on to star in
Speaker 1: the L Word and appear on Bosh, Silicon Valley and The.
Speaker 2: L Word Reboot Generation Q.
Speaker 3: We have also an awesome band, remember the ban you
Speaker 3: bought me, You bought me the Murmurs album. He's in
Speaker 3: a band called the Murmurs, and you bought me the
Speaker 3: album one day and I still listen to it. Literally, yep.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to her about that. And
Speaker 1: then we have Devin O'Brien as Missus Epperson. She appeared
Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighty three film Terms of Endearment, and
Speaker 1: then film Yes, Zach Pfeiffer as mister Epperson, who made
Speaker 1: some interesting choices. He's a bit of a Hollywood journeyman,
Speaker 1: having appeared on Moonlighting, Perfect Strangers, and Murphy Brown and
Speaker 1: in movies like Get Shorty Adams, Family Values, and Romy
Speaker 1: and Michelle's High School Reunion. And then Jonathan Ausser as
Speaker 1: Billy Epperson. He played a young Adam Sandler in the
Speaker 1: movie Anger Management and appeared in the very weird Todd
Speaker 1: Solan's movie Storytelling He's So Good. And then Jack Grayman
Speaker 1: as Bum. He only has three credits, and the only
Speaker 1: other one I recognized.
Speaker 2: Was as cop On Seinfeld. All right, so jumping into
Speaker 2: our recap, we start in the wilderness outpost. We see
Speaker 2: the exterior, some more money they threw our way, and
Speaker 2: we see a girl in a large hat is playing
Speaker 2: the guitar. And singing outside and Eric is intrigued.
Speaker 4: Now, this exterior is clearly not linked to the interior,
Speaker 4: right because they had the window covered. Because I was
Speaker 4: trying to imagine, is like where was this on our set?
Speaker 4: It was like, Oh, they just built this. And then
Speaker 4: you have to like slide into the door so you
Speaker 4: can't actually see inside.
Speaker 3: And the sign actually says Matthews, which I liked. It
Speaker 3: was the Matthews Wilderness Store, which is nice. Yep, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it was certainly a swing set m M. And then
Speaker 3: she has the fake kind of keeping her head down
Speaker 3: down the entire time. Yeah, do you guys.
Speaker 4: Remember when she showed up at the table read, yes,
Speaker 4: with her absolutely, she don't know to every song this
Speaker 4: week before the table read, so she had lyrics, so
Speaker 4: they in the script Sherman had only written lyrics for her,
Speaker 4: and she showed up with a guitar and wrote had
Speaker 4: written every song, and I swear to god, it didn't change.
Speaker 4: She showed up and had what eight eight nine different
Speaker 4: songs written to the lyrics and it was perfect.
Speaker 3: And the all acoustic act, you know.
Speaker 2: What's even crazier.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons she got this job, aside from
Speaker 1: the fact that she's incredible is probably because by the
Speaker 1: time she went into the audition, she had already written
Speaker 1: the song to whatever those sides you must have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what this. I would love to
Speaker 4: ask Sherman about this. I'm sure she showed up and
Speaker 4: sang a cappella in the audition. I don't know. But
Speaker 4: but when at the table head, I just remember we
Speaker 4: were all like, oh, we have all on episode because
Speaker 4: of her, because she just had taken these lyrics and
Speaker 4: I mean it's not like super complicated, but it works perfect.
Speaker 3: I wonder if she did audition because I remember distinctly
Speaker 3: hearing a story that I think it was Sherman and
Speaker 3: Nelson and Blutman might have been there too, went to
Speaker 3: a Murmurs concert specifically to see her. I don't know
Speaker 3: if this was before or after that.
Speaker 4: You can't assume that somebody can ask based.
Speaker 3: I don't know's hear the story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she must have auditioned because she was great well.
Speaker 1: A panhandler and ragged closed next to her begs Eric
Speaker 1: to make.
Speaker 4: It stuck a bum.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you're right, it's a bum. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: an unhoused human.
Speaker 3: No, it's the nineties. They're a boom boom.
Speaker 1: Eric finds the comment disturbing and throws some money into
Speaker 1: the girl's guitar case. She continues singing that a handsome
Speaker 1: passerby tosses me a twenty dollars bill. Eric smiles at
Speaker 1: the handsome passerby compliment, but when he hears twenty dollars bill,
Speaker 1: he realizes he's made a mistake and quickly takes the
Speaker 1: money back.
Speaker 2: I just love.
Speaker 1: Eric walks into the store, and as the girl continues
Speaker 1: to sing outside, Alan begs Eric to close the door.
Speaker 1: Eric jokes, a little too perky for you out there
Speaker 1: this morning we hear a new song.
Speaker 2: It's a lollipop day, a jolly Wally Molly Dolly.
Speaker 1: Eric finally closes the door and Alan complains, no one's
Speaker 1: coming in here.
Speaker 2: She's scaring all the customers away.
Speaker 1: Eric asks, would you rather have the smelly old guy
Speaker 1: who used to s spit on people? And without hesitation,
Speaker 1: Alan says, yeah, get him and get rid of her.
Speaker 1: Eric asks why he has to do this, and Alan responds,
Speaker 1: because we're equal partners in this business, and I'm your father,
Speaker 1: and you do what I tell you to do, which
Speaker 1: I love. I love that now we're already like. I
Speaker 1: love how this completely ties in, reminds the audience, Hey,
Speaker 1: Eric's a partner in this, this is actually their business together.
Speaker 1: But then I also love the very like just that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happens with parents, is that at a certain
Speaker 1: point they go, I don't care you're doing it because
Speaker 1: I said so, I said.
Speaker 3: This is so. I distinctly remember this was kind of
Speaker 3: the start of Rusty and I bonding as actors and
Speaker 3: as people. Was the Wilderness Store, because all of a
Speaker 3: sudden we were together every week. We're in that Wilderness
Speaker 3: Store for most of this season.
Speaker 4: I mean, and you've said that before. I remember talking
Speaker 4: about that when when we first started this podcast, that
Speaker 4: you didn't connect with Rusty until the last seasons.
Speaker 3: Until the later scenes, and this is where it really
Speaker 3: started to happen. I don't think, and again I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't blame him because I didn't really know what
Speaker 3: I was doing. I don't think he respected me much
Speaker 3: as an actor when we started, and again I was
Speaker 3: the cardboard cutout prop where I'd walk in and Chris
Speaker 3: I was very stiff and girls girls, and didn't do
Speaker 3: anything with the with you know, to make it my own,
Speaker 3: and I think he started to notice that I was
Speaker 3: growing as an actor. And then we were together and
Speaker 3: we were playing off of each other, and at that
Speaker 3: point then it was just smooth sailing. But this is
Speaker 3: really where it started, was all the Wilderness store stuff,
Speaker 3: so this is important.
Speaker 1: Eric walks outside to do the deed, but as he's
Speaker 1: about to break the news, she looks up and he
Speaker 1: sees her beautiful face. He immediately joins her in singing
Speaker 1: the last line of her song and I feel good,
Speaker 1: and he gives her all of his money. Eric walks
Speaker 1: back into the store and Alan asks if it's done,
Speaker 1: but Eric admits, of course it's not done.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you know me at all?
Speaker 1: Alan knowingly says she smiled at you, and Eric acts
Speaker 1: out her smile, saying, geh.
Speaker 3: Such a Michael Jacobs.
Speaker 4: The few times I could see you doing a ready, yeah,
Speaker 4: old joke, got it? Deliver it, yep, because you wouldn't
Speaker 4: have done it that way.
Speaker 3: You would have.
Speaker 2: So get ahead, yeah, because you know I wrote in
Speaker 2: the script and.
Speaker 4: You were like, what am I supposed to?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And Michael, just right when I saw it, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Alan size and tells Eric to take her to lunch
Speaker 1: and ask her to take her act further down the road.
Speaker 1: He questions, can you handle that? Eric scoffs cannot handle that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can handle that or fail to do so. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some money, so can you give me some?
Speaker 1: Because I gave her all of mine and it just
Speaker 1: sets this whole episode up absolutely perfectly.
Speaker 3: I want that scene back. As an actor, you know,
Speaker 3: you watch and I don't think it was bad. But
Speaker 3: as an actor, you watch and you're like, in my head,
Speaker 3: I missed nine jokes. So I'm like, oh, I want
Speaker 3: to go back and do that again. That's just how
Speaker 3: I am. It's like I want to go back and
Speaker 3: do it again.
Speaker 4: So that's this episode bad. This is This is like
Speaker 4: the Olympics of sitcom acting. Watching this this No, it's amazing.
Speaker 4: I mean here, I was thinking about watching the episode, Like,
Speaker 4: what what defines sitcom or I mean comedy acting in general.
Speaker 4: With sitcom in particular, is the ability to commit and transition.
Speaker 4: So like the ability to do commit to something one
Speaker 4: hundred percent for like two lines one line, half the line,
Speaker 4: and then transition to a completely different beat and commit
Speaker 4: to that and to bring the audience along with you,
Speaker 4: and you do that beat to beat line the line.
Speaker 4: It's miraculous, It's like, and it's so hard to do
Speaker 4: because as an actor like you know you, it's hard
Speaker 4: to keep the energy level up that high and to
Speaker 4: go from like happy to sad to singing to not
Speaker 4: to you know, and you are doing that in every scene,
Speaker 4: every line. It's it's remarkable, will it. So you've clearly
Speaker 4: just achieved, you know, your status as a sitcom actor
Speaker 4: by this point. It's so great.
Speaker 3: We should do this every week. Great way to wake
Speaker 3: up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Geez. And then we're in Phoenie's classroom. Been a while
Speaker 2: since Phoene.
Speaker 4: Also, we reiterate all of our characters like in a row.
Speaker 4: It's like literally like shawl.
Speaker 2: You guys a little harder to Penga. But I know everything.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 4: What is wrong with your voice, though, Danielle, I notice
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: What it was.
Speaker 4: What it was if you sounded so different the second
Speaker 4: you started talking.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, it could have been. It could
Speaker 2: have been particularly a week that I was told to
Speaker 2: change my voice. Note, Oh, maybe it could have been.
Speaker 2: It could have been one of the weeks.
Speaker 1: That was very much like, Danielle, lower your voice, Danielle,
Speaker 1: lower your voice. Because I don't actually sound sick to me.
Speaker 1: You can usually tell when.
Speaker 2: I sound like stuffed up. This didn't sound like that.
Speaker 1: This sounded like it almost sounded like I was taking
Speaker 1: on an affect and I'm not.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure why.
Speaker 4: It really only bumped me in this scene. I guess
Speaker 4: maybe I got used to it, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was this. It was like, what happened?
Speaker 1: That doesn't And I know it was so weird, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound It doesn't sound stuffy. It sounded like
Speaker 1: I was doing something weird with words like I was.
Speaker 1: I was pronouncing things a little differently than I normally do.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure why, but I noticed it too
Speaker 1: in this scene in particular, sure why.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I was doing.
Speaker 1: So Phoene tells the class since this will be the
Speaker 1: last presidential election in which they aren't old enough to vote,
Speaker 1: he wants the classroom to be an open forum to
Speaker 1: discuss the issue issues which most concern their lives. Sean
Speaker 1: is about to fall asleep as Phoene lectures, So, of course,
Speaker 1: Phoene calls on him and asks, mister Hunter, what issue
Speaker 1: most concerns your life. Sean doesn't hesitate the swimsuit issue.
Speaker 1: Phoene just goes back and if it's so good, Sean asks,
Speaker 1: how am I doing? Phoene responds baff o, mister Hunter.
Speaker 1: Corey raises his hand and tells Phoene there is a
Speaker 1: pressing social matter which I feel equipped to discuss with
Speaker 1: confidence and alacrity. Phoene excitedly tells Corey he has the floor,
Speaker 1: to which Corey tells him, Nah, that used me up.
Speaker 1: Phoene asks to Panga to save them, and the smart
Speaker 1: girl responds, First of all, I'd just like to say
Speaker 1: I think Corey's really cute for trying Corey.
Speaker 2: Corey giggles, thank you, sugar. Now I guess I do.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna chalk this up to because I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is that Topega would find cute about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why she would think it's cute, except
Speaker 1: for the fact that when you are a teenager, especially
Speaker 1: everything that other person.
Speaker 2: Does that you love is just adorable.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say, you know what, I do remember
Speaker 1: being a dumb, dumb teenager in love.
Speaker 4: I mean, story wise, it's just to reiterate that they're together,
Speaker 4: because the whole arc of the episode is they're together,
Speaker 4: They're committing to each other. It's going to be strained,
Speaker 4: and they're gonna come back together.
Speaker 2: So we need to remind the audience, the audience where
Speaker 2: we are in.
Speaker 4: The timeline, because reruns we could be all over the place. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this is the first classroom scene
Speaker 3: maybe of the entire series, where I did not recognize
Speaker 3: a single background oh one, not one.
Speaker 4: It was so weird.
Speaker 3: We're going around the class and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 3: I don't recognize anybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean, I can't believe
Speaker 4: that we've already covered so many of the background extra
Speaker 4: like that. I remember, you know, like seasons two and three,
Speaker 4: I remember every you know Dusty obviously, Like now you're right,
Speaker 4: because like Ricky's gone, he wasn't doing it. My brother's
Speaker 4: girlfriend is going to be called Darcy. Darcy Darcy is
Speaker 4: an extra in the later years, so she's going to
Speaker 4: be in the background, so she might come up this season,
Speaker 4: right were they already dating? And but yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: know who else was around at this time.
Speaker 3: That's I just didn't reckon it was weird. I didn't
Speaker 3: recognize anybody. I even paused it. I was like, there's
Speaker 3: got to be somebody I reckonize.
Speaker 2: We'll see cal Pen soon.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's.
Speaker 2: Soh t.
Speaker 1: Penga explains the biggest crisis facing the country is the
Speaker 1: breakdown of the American family, or, as I say on
Speaker 1: the show, the biggest crisis faming fame in the family is.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. I'm like a little British.
Speaker 2: I'm a little British.
Speaker 3: I'm a little I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a little not sure, not sure what.
Speaker 3: Family.
Speaker 2: I was trying something. I was taking a risk. Sean groans,
Speaker 2: you always gotta go after Sean.
Speaker 1: Tabanga argues that issues like crime in the decline and education,
Speaker 1: but Sean interrupts, Hey lay off of me.
Speaker 4: This is hysterical. But it also makes no sense that
Speaker 4: Topanga would think the breakdown is the American family, like
Speaker 4: she wants to break down traditional roles, like that's always
Speaker 4: been her thing? Is that, like, you know, because the
Speaker 4: traditional American family argument is very conservative and very like
Speaker 4: female should be this way, male should be this way,
Speaker 4: and they should kids this way and like, so this
Speaker 4: is as much as I love this episode, when it
Speaker 4: works for the conflict, it doesn't make any sense for
Speaker 4: Tobanka's character.
Speaker 3: She wants and she becomes really conservative exactly, it's very
Speaker 3: weird especial.
Speaker 1: This this talking point was a very conservative viewpoint. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. So Topega continues that it all has to
Speaker 1: do with how we're brought up in our homes. Phoene agrees,
Speaker 1: and Sean slams his book shut.
Speaker 2: That's it. He walks to the door.
Speaker 1: When Phoene asks mister Hunter, Sean smiles, points at the
Speaker 1: clock and the bell rings right on time. Phoene throws
Speaker 1: his arms in the air. The rest of the class
Speaker 1: files out. I'm in an orange outfit with some I
Speaker 1: don't know, platform sneakers or something. It goes along with
Speaker 1: my new British British language horse yep, and Corey confirms
Speaker 1: that Sean isn't actually upset. Sean asks what, I'm not
Speaker 1: personally responsible for?
Speaker 4: What that?
Speaker 1: I'm personally responsible for the breakdown of American society.
Speaker 2: Nah, I got bigger problems.
Speaker 1: Corey understands he's got problems too. He reveals that he
Speaker 1: and Ta Panga. We're supposed to go out tonight, but
Speaker 1: now it's not happening. Sean's glad to hear that. How
Speaker 1: we can have a rare guy's night out. Corey's into that.
Speaker 1: The boys together again. It's a pretty lucky thing to
Speaker 1: Pega's babysitting tonight.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Sean cuts him off and asks, you have a girlfriend
Speaker 1: who's babysitting. Corey nuds, yeah, late into the night. So
Speaker 1: burgers are a movie, Sean tells him there's no burger.
Speaker 1: There's no movie. There's just you and your girlfriend at
Speaker 1: a stranger's house, no interruptions, alone on a couch. And
Speaker 1: I thought, no interruptions. Have you ever met a child?
Speaker 4: My first house was when you're a babysitter, you just
Speaker 4: put the kid to bed and then you're there.
Speaker 2: Well, yes I did.
Speaker 1: I did realize that that's that's what this that that
Speaker 1: that's what this was gonna do. That they were gonna
Speaker 1: have to Penga just there while he was sleeping. But like,
Speaker 1: if I'm having a babysitter, I'm getting out of dinner
Speaker 1: and bedtime duty. You're doing it like I'm if I'm
Speaker 1: going out, I'm not gonna go out at nine nine.
Speaker 2: I'm asleep by nine I.
Speaker 1: Gotta so in my mind, I'm like, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: your boyfriend over when you have literally nothing but NonStop
Speaker 1: things to do. But it is if they go to bed.
Speaker 1: Sure you're just sitting on a couch watching TV, Eat
Speaker 1: and Bonbonds. So Corey's picking up what Sean is putting down.
Speaker 1: Corey Matthews a parent's worst nightmare.
Speaker 2: Lock up your daughters. The hormones will be a fly
Speaker 2: in tonight.
Speaker 1: The audience whoooooo at the idea of teens getting it on,
Speaker 1: and Corey asked, Sean, you believe me? And Sean admits no,
Speaker 1: but you're very And then nine thirty see what happens.
Speaker 1: And then we're at Chubby's, because where else would you be.
Speaker 1: Eric is on his date with the vagabond singer and
Speaker 1: she's communicating with him solely through her guitar and song.
Speaker 1: She sings, I got interested in music when I saw
Speaker 1: my first Broadway show. Eric grabs her guitar. Corinna talk,
Speaker 1: It's okay to just talk. She starts to talk normally.
Speaker 1: She saw Annie as a kid and felt like it
Speaker 1: spoke directly to her. Eric asks, did she maybe mention
Speaker 1: that you should write something with a little more edge?
Speaker 1: Coarina laughs and points out that he sounds just like
Speaker 1: her uncle with the record company. Eric shocked, you have
Speaker 1: a record deal and she tells him not yet. Uncle
Speaker 1: David doesn't think she has enough edge. He seems to
Speaker 1: think I don't have enough life experience yet. Eric pleads
Speaker 1: with Earth, that must have really put you in a
Speaker 1: bad mood, brought you down, put you in a dark place.
Speaker 1: Karina laughs and Eric realizes she has no idea what
Speaker 1: he's talking about. She doesn't have a dark place. She's
Speaker 1: still laughing and admits, I just did what I always do.
Speaker 1: I put my feelings in a song. Karina starts to
Speaker 1: sing again, this time thanking her uncle David for refusing
Speaker 1: to give her a record deal. As she continues her song,
Speaker 1: everyone in Chubby starts to stare at her, which she
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to notice, but Eric does. Will what do
Speaker 1: you remember about doing this scene and everything this whole week.
Speaker 3: The whole week with her? First of all, she could
Speaker 3: not have been a nicer human being, so super easy
Speaker 3: to work with, and you never would have known that
Speaker 3: this was her first thing, not just because she was
Speaker 3: so comfortable from again, as we were talking about from
Speaker 3: the table read, you're sitting there with an established show.
Speaker 3: Everybody our table reads were, especially by season four, were
Speaker 3: big deals. I mean there was you know, fifty people there,
Speaker 3: people from the network, everybody from all the producers. She
Speaker 3: comes in with her guitar, she starts singing, immediately sings
Speaker 3: every song is impeccable, dirt like it never like writer said,
Speaker 3: it never changed impeccable during every runthrough, through every scene.
Speaker 3: So we had these scenes and we just kind of
Speaker 3: had this vibe going between the two of us, and
Speaker 3: she was just so good. You know who else was great?
Speaker 3: Shout out to all the background actors I know whose
Speaker 3: responses to the songs going on were phenomenal and they
Speaker 3: they do exactly everything.
Speaker 4: How people feel about her music.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then the waitress Jackie. Jackie was Jackie who
Speaker 3: was our stand This must have been.
Speaker 4: Her first season. I think it was so she get
Speaker 4: there for the later years, So this must have been
Speaker 4: her first season. She was before season.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I think she moved to like North Carolina.
Speaker 4: North Carolina was an artist.
Speaker 1: She's a mixed media artist. Yeah, she's actually if you
Speaker 1: guys want to check her out. Her Instagram is at
Speaker 1: j A c q U I f e h l
Speaker 1: Jackie Fell f e h L. So yeah, she's I.
Speaker 3: Know, wow, Yeah, a terrible joke.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I didn't hear you. I didn't hear
Speaker 2: what you say said.
Speaker 3: You spelled it out, Jackie Fell. I said, I'm glad
Speaker 3: you got up.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 3: No wait, but the other thing that was really so
Speaker 3: this this scene kind of took on a life of
Speaker 3: its own even after Boy Meets World. So I had
Speaker 3: signed a deal after Boy Meets Roll was done to
Speaker 3: do you know, it's called they're called whole deals. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like you're signed to the network, but they
Speaker 3: don't have a specific project for you, but they might
Speaker 3: want to put you with somebody, maybe you'll create something,
Speaker 3: maybe they put you on another show. You can't go
Speaker 3: on another network, but they pay and they pay well.
Speaker 3: So I got a call from Phil Rosenthal, who did
Speaker 3: Everybody Loves Raymond, and said, I'd like to sit down
Speaker 3: and have a meeting with you about the possibility of
Speaker 3: maybe doing your own show. So my agent and I
Speaker 3: went in and sat down with him, and I said,
Speaker 3: we started talking and I said, oh, are you a
Speaker 3: Boy Meets World fan? And he said, I've never seen
Speaker 3: Boy Meets World. I've only seen one scene you've ever done,
Speaker 3: and this was the scene. Wow, so he that's why
Speaker 3: he said, it's like the next one, No, this one,
Speaker 3: this one with the check with the love of guy,
Speaker 3: that's the next one. Oh is that the next one?
Speaker 3: I thought this was so that one with that was
Speaker 3: the scene that he does.
Speaker 4: It's perfect, Like it's just put that on like if
Speaker 4: you put that on your reel.
Speaker 3: Like that's essentially what he said that He's like, I
Speaker 3: saw that and then you know, obviously you know you
Speaker 3: can do anything, but it was just that one scene.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was great. But the writing is also
Speaker 3: how do you know? I mean all that I didn't
Speaker 3: Addlebenia And people always ask like, how much of it
Speaker 3: was you? One hundred percent? The writing fluga part of
Speaker 3: your brain removing it. It's your commitment and transitions, like
Speaker 3: it's yes, you're able. There's a great scene though, but
Speaker 3: let's stick with the scene we're in. Sorry, Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I just remember it was a wonderful week working with her.
Speaker 3: She's was just so good and yeah, yeah, became a
Speaker 3: big fan of hers.
Speaker 1: After this, we're at Tapanga's babysitting house. We get the
Speaker 1: exterior of a new house, which leads to another new set.
Speaker 1: The mom is quizzing Topanga on important things she needs
Speaker 1: to know before leaving. Billy's bedtime, nine pm, emergency numbers
Speaker 1: next to the fridge, most important rule, no boys at all.
Speaker 1: Tapanga opens the door as the parents are leaving, and oops,
Speaker 1: Corey is standing there. He quickly grabs a jug of
Speaker 1: water and pretends to be the water boy, but Tapanga
Speaker 1: assures the parents he won't be staying. But the mom
Speaker 1: changes her tune. Oh, when I said no boys, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean this kind of boy.
Speaker 4: When you were talking about your accent. This woman is
Speaker 4: she from She's doing like a Bill Daniels like it's
Speaker 4: that proper American. But I just thought it was so fun.
Speaker 4: It was like, this is such a boy meets world
Speaker 4: and she's great, but it's such a boy meets world thing, right,
Speaker 4: Like if you're poor, you have a Southern accent, if you're.
Speaker 2: Rich, you.
Speaker 3: Between exactly.
Speaker 4: She's like, does she like literally have a pearl necklace on?
Speaker 4: Tap just say this boy, this amy moth a British
Speaker 4: accent it's like it's that Bill Daniels in between. You
Speaker 4: can't quite do it.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so weird. Also, rookie move, Corey, you
Speaker 3: wait till the parents on the door down there.
Speaker 4: He's always going to be making rookie mistakes. That's the
Speaker 4: definition exactly.
Speaker 2: We love it on him to leave. So she tells
Speaker 2: her husband, this is Amy and Allen's little boy boy.
Speaker 2: The husband is unamused.
Speaker 1: Corey corrects her, I'm Amy and Allen's dangerous little boy.
Speaker 1: The husband, who might be on Kayludes, tells him.
Speaker 2: We're all dangerous in the beginning.
Speaker 1: The mother says they will be out late, so if
Speaker 1: you two get dozy, just take a little nap on
Speaker 1: the couch. The husband leans to Corey. Very comfortable couch.
Speaker 1: You lie down on it, you'll think you're dead. It's wonderful,
Speaker 1: and I truly feel like I know everything I need
Speaker 1: to know about this man and how he feels about
Speaker 1: his life.
Speaker 2: And he has barely even opened his mouth.
Speaker 4: Great performance, great writing, three or four lines. We have
Speaker 4: the whole history of this relationship. Yep. It puts us
Speaker 4: into the next scene. Perfect, It's great. It's poor man Sitcolm.
Speaker 1: Greatness it's just very wonderful. So Ta Panga tells Corey,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you came over, dangerous boy. She tells him
Speaker 1: to get comfortable on the couch and she'll grab them
Speaker 1: something to eat. Corey says to himself, all right, cozy couch,
Speaker 1: empty house, dangerous guy. Everything is working out according to plan.
Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 6: On?
Speaker 2: Cute Little Billy pops up from behind the couch and
Speaker 2: gives Corey a wet willie. Cory asks, can I help
Speaker 2: you with something?
Speaker 4: I know disgusting?
Speaker 2: Doesn't react, and I'm still reacting to it.
Speaker 4: He really does. God, oh my god. If there are
Speaker 4: certain things like my son cannot do like will It's
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, dude, I'd rather you pick your
Speaker 4: nose and eat it. But if you touch me with
Speaker 4: your finger in my ear like I will lose it.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I shall tell you're not allowed to one
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm gonta wet willy's on the
Speaker 3: plane the whole time.
Speaker 2: Now, will it can even come near wet?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: I'm away, yay, Yes, I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you wet willies while wearing an I love liquorice
Speaker 3: shirt giving me WILLI the worst?
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how he doesn't react, It's just
Speaker 1: I'm literally I'm still reacting.
Speaker 2: So the boy giggles, you're Morgan's brother. Corey is unamused.
Speaker 2: Aren't you supposed to be in bed?
Speaker 1: Billy tells him, I got a Nintendo sixty four bit upstairs.
Speaker 1: No one has ever called the Nintendo sixty four a
Speaker 1: Nintendo sixty four bits.
Speaker 4: A Nintendo sixty four bit sixty four bit.
Speaker 3: Also, there is something with our writers, producers or just
Speaker 3: wardrobe where if you're a little kid, you need to
Speaker 3: be in full pajamas, pajamas like it's the seven.
Speaker 4: And then and then Morgan with the big slippers later
Speaker 4: like the big fuzzy animal slippers. Yeah, it's just gonna
Speaker 4: make them a little kid like, it's so amazing.
Speaker 3: They're all linked.
Speaker 1: Twenty so Tapega walks in just as the boys are
Speaker 1: about to run upstairs and asks Billy what he's doing up.
Speaker 4: Okay, I watched this moment over and do you notice
Speaker 4: how coordinated Ben and the kid are in this beat?
Speaker 4: When you walk in the door. It is one of
Speaker 4: the funnest but they match each other. They both have
Speaker 4: their hands in the air like they're caught. I go
Speaker 4: back our listeners to go back and watch it. You
Speaker 4: come out of the kitchen and they both stop and
Speaker 4: clearly the kid or Ben decided to do the exact
Speaker 4: same thing at the same time. So they're both like
Speaker 4: caught with their hands in the air and it is his.
Speaker 4: They're just matching. It's so it's such a visual gag,
Speaker 4: and I can't decide, like I'm assuming the kid is
Speaker 4: imitating Ben because he has a standout for no reason.
Speaker 4: But it is one of the funniest visual gags. It's
Speaker 4: just like they're both like like literally hand in the
Speaker 4: cookie jar, like they're both reaching like it is so funny. Oh,
Speaker 4: I was like, well, I went back and watching like
Speaker 4: three or four times.
Speaker 2: I was dying.
Speaker 4: It's such like an actory visual gag. It's so good. Uh.
Speaker 1: Corey tells her he's got sixty four bits and to
Speaker 1: Banka counters he's got nine o'clock bed. Corey asks for
Speaker 1: five minutes, I really want to play Tapanga leans down
Speaker 1: to Billy. I'm obligated to follow the rules your parents
Speaker 1: have clearly laid out, and as she's speaking Corey's behind her,
Speaker 1: mocking her. Tapanga whips her head around and asks what
Speaker 1: he's doing. He carefully says, I love you, and Tapega
Speaker 1: tells Billy to get to bed right now. He pleads,
Speaker 1: can I watch TV? Corey answer sure, which I love sure?
Speaker 1: Topanga tells him no, scolding Corey. Corey immediately blames Billy,
Speaker 1: asking what were you thinking? Then we enter a very
Speaker 1: meta little bit here where Billy tells them it's the
Speaker 1: Friday night lineup. To Panga asks what does that have
Speaker 1: to do with anything? And Corey explains the Friday night
Speaker 1: lineup it's only the best shows on TV. You walk
Speaker 1: into school Monday morning and you didn't see the Friday
Speaker 1: night lineup?
Speaker 2: Forget it?
Speaker 1: You got nothing to say. Tapega's upset with Corey. He's
Speaker 1: undermining her authority. I am this child's babysitter, and I
Speaker 1: take my responsibilities very seriously. And as she's talking, Billy
Speaker 1: is now mocking her behind her back to Panga whips
Speaker 1: her head around and asks what were you doing? And
Speaker 1: Billy repeats what he heard Corey say, I love you.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 1: Tapanga asks a giggling Corey, you think this is funny.
Speaker 1: He stutters out, no mistress to Panga. I think it's
Speaker 1: the opposite of funny. I think it's wood and.
Speaker 4: It's so funny. So much the writing of this scene
Speaker 4: start to finish, I mean, what is this like five
Speaker 4: seven fifteen, and it's like, I don't think there's a
Speaker 4: wasted beat. Now every it turns, it's so good.
Speaker 2: It is so good.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's wood.
Speaker 6: O good.
Speaker 1: I think it's wood. Billy pleads, at least let me
Speaker 1: watch my favorite show. It's on right now. Depeanga tells
Speaker 1: Billy it's nine thirty. She knows he doesn't stay up
Speaker 1: past nine. Billy explains it used to be on at
Speaker 1: eight thirty, but this year they moved it to nine thirty.
Speaker 1: Those idiots.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, our listeners probably know, but like our
Speaker 4: show got moved to nine thirty.
Speaker 3: This is all?
Speaker 4: Is this our most meta reference since Bill Daniels did
Speaker 4: the Like, I wouldn't know what it's, I wouldn't know
Speaker 4: what the writers got it?
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, this is also it's it's such a long
Speaker 1: it's a whole meta scene from here on out basically,
Speaker 1: and then it comes back a little later.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a it's a it's a building.
Speaker 4: Kid gets acquainted with the universe, like.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, essentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Corey is shocked they moved it to nine thirty. Why,
Speaker 1: Billy yells, no one knows. Kory asks, was it doing
Speaker 1: badly at eight thirty? Billy tells him no. Kory asks,
Speaker 1: then why didn't they leave it alone?
Speaker 2: And then Billy shouts, they're trying to kill it. They're
Speaker 2: trying to kill it. Corey shakes his head. Those are bad,
Speaker 2: bad people.
Speaker 1: So yeah, to explain even a little further, being on
Speaker 1: at eight thirty is a more ideal time slot than
Speaker 1: nine thirty, because even though eight to ten was a
Speaker 1: block of family shows, the shows earlier in the evening,
Speaker 1: when you're a kids show, at least when you have
Speaker 1: younger kids, would get better numbers than the shows at
Speaker 1: nine thirty. So this was all a reference to the
Speaker 1: inner fears and explicitly stated fears of all of us
Speaker 1: working on the show.
Speaker 2: What's this is going to do?
Speaker 4: So suddenly that it was. It was a brazen move
Speaker 4: by Michael and the writers because this would have been
Speaker 4: delivered out loud to the network at a table read
Speaker 4: so at her label read, we would all gather and
Speaker 4: it would be the first time that the network would
Speaker 4: hear the script and actually probably read it. I don't
Speaker 4: even know if they would have had it the night before,
Speaker 4: because oftentimes the script would be finished that morning, right,
Speaker 4: our scripts then, right, so we'd be sitting there at
Speaker 4: a table read with network executives. There's usually three or
Speaker 4: four that come to the table read, and they would
Speaker 4: have been sort of forced to hear a kid actor
Speaker 4: delivering lines that are basically mocking them, calling them idiots
Speaker 4: to their face in the context idiots, and like you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the kind of stuff that Michael
Speaker 4: would do, like you know, and it's kind of brilliant because,
Speaker 4: you know, standing up for the show against network executives.
Speaker 4: I mean it could be extreme, and you know, it
Speaker 4: doesn't always have to be conflict based, but in our case,
Speaker 4: it was very conflict based, and there was a lot
Speaker 4: of challenges and there was a lot of pushback, and
Speaker 4: so this was like kind of a brilliant chess move
Speaker 4: writing wise, to like do this because it's too funny
Speaker 4: to not put on the show.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: Also, yeah, it's it's brilliant.
Speaker 3: I just think it's one of the thing I remember that.
Speaker 3: I remember the run through. I remember how we do
Speaker 3: we would do well, no, but the run through I
Speaker 3: remember specifically as a network run through, the the you know,
Speaker 3: the run through for us, and then we would do
Speaker 3: the network run through and the network run through our ever,
Speaker 3: the network like putting their hands in their heads and shape.
Speaker 3: I mean they were laughing. Yeah, and we knew it
Speaker 3: was gonna exactly like they had to do it. So
Speaker 3: it was. It was great to take.
Speaker 4: And what's so great about it is it wasn't I mean,
Speaker 4: our audience would have also gotten it, you know, because
Speaker 4: our audience was also like, why is it nine thirty exactly?
Speaker 2: And you have to change my schedule?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a perfect medice.
Speaker 3: I think that the shows after US got worse ratings
Speaker 3: until Sabrina and then got better rating For sure beat us.
Speaker 1: So Corey shakes his head. Those are bad, bad people.
Speaker 1: To Panga tells Corey that they need to have a
Speaker 1: little talk. Corey pleads right after the show honey to
Speaker 1: Pega snatches the remote from his hand. There will be
Speaker 1: no show. She tells Billy to get to bed, and
Speaker 1: Billy obliges. Corey compliments her work and says, now it's
Speaker 1: just you and dangerous me on a cozy couch. Tapega
Speaker 1: starts pushing him to the door. He is going home.
Speaker 1: Corey asks why she'd want to be there alone, and
Speaker 1: to Panga yells, you have no idea what this is about?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 1: Corey argues, yes, I do, and it happens to be
Speaker 1: a very important issue, not just to me and you,
Speaker 1: but to all men and women in relationships both here
Speaker 1: and abroad. To Penga reiterates the exact same way, you
Speaker 1: have no idea what this is about?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 2: Corey groans, do I ever?
Speaker 3: Do I ever?
Speaker 1: Billy now runs back into the room, telling Cory you're
Speaker 1: missing a real funny one. The curly headed kid keeps
Speaker 1: on digging himself in deeper and deeper.
Speaker 4: I mean, come on good. While Cory is digging himself
Speaker 4: deeper and deeper. The kid calls it out as the show.
Speaker 4: I mean, just brilliant writing. This is like post modern
Speaker 4: self referential, like it's just layers. I love it so much.
Speaker 2: And then to put the little cherry on top, Corey says,
Speaker 2: I love that kid.
Speaker 3: He's such a doufe, such a doof perfect word.
Speaker 2: Perfect word. So then we are back at Chubby's. Eric
Speaker 2: and Karina are still on their date.
Speaker 1: Karina is going on and on about what her uncle
Speaker 1: David could have possibly meant by life experience. Eric is
Speaker 1: stacking his French fries into it Jenga tower from boredom.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Karina explains she's been to sleep away camp and she
Speaker 1: once got on the wrong bus and.
Speaker 2: She even had a goldfish who died. Eric guesses suicide
Speaker 2: wasn't ken is such a funny line.
Speaker 4: This is the scene. This is I would see the
Speaker 4: babysitter scene and then into this scene are two of
Speaker 4: our best scenes ever, back to back.
Speaker 1: It's completely agree. Just nailed this huge chunk of the show.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: Corona laughs, oh you. This inspires a new song and
Speaker 1: people and Chubbies get up and leave. Once she starts,
Speaker 1: Eric can't handle it anymore. He grabs her guitar and
Speaker 1: he tells her okay okay, sh and he yells for
Speaker 1: the check. Karina asks if something's wrong, and Eric says
Speaker 1: he noticed all of these people were watching her and
Speaker 1: listening to her song, and he's afraid they would steal
Speaker 1: it and sell it to Andrew Lloyd Webber, who would
Speaker 1: then write a three hour musical about her dead Goldfish.
Speaker 2: Coarna gasps, what he call it, Goldie? Eric tells her, no,
Speaker 2: he'd call it.
Speaker 4: You would call it that Jackie like loses it in
Speaker 4: the backround.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's where Jackie spins around. It's so great,
Speaker 1: Karina explains. When I got up this morning, I had
Speaker 1: no idea I meet someone I was going to spend
Speaker 1: the rest of my life with and all our lives
Speaker 1: to come. Eric admits he doesn't know how to say this,
Speaker 1: so he's going to choose his words very carefully.
Speaker 2: I think you're a psycho.
Speaker 3: I think you're a psycho. Good men and women on
Speaker 3: dates have wanted to say that so badly. I just
Speaker 3: want to say I think you're a psych.
Speaker 2: I think you're a psycho. And this is not going
Speaker 2: to go any further.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 1: Karina's confused. Eric continues, I'm just not the guy for you.
Speaker 1: You need a guy who's happy and perky all the time.
Speaker 1: Maybe a guy who's had part of his brain removed
Speaker 1: and thinks he's a bunny.
Speaker 2: And you guys can do it.
Speaker 5: I really that was the.
Speaker 4: Most nineties thing probably I don't think you do. I'm
Speaker 4: not probably the most nineties thing. Yeah, I used to
Speaker 4: say that all the time, right, like, oh he's.
Speaker 6: So such a such a psycho, he's such a like
Speaker 6: I feel like we used to always say that, I
Speaker 6: mean never say in just this episode we can say
Speaker 6: we some people push.
Speaker 2: We don't say bum, we don't say psycho.
Speaker 1: We we probably actually wouldn't even say supicide, we'd say unlive.
Speaker 3: It's alive itself did it? And later down the line,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be making fun of a guy by just
Speaker 3: assuming he was exactly.
Speaker 2: That wouldn't in the nineties. Eric, That's that's the exactly.
Speaker 3: Super such a guy thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we very nineteen nineties six.
Speaker 1: It's very ninety six, and we have for the most
Speaker 1: part chosen to say we will mention when something doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily age well. But we also realized it was recorded
Speaker 1: in ninety sixteen ninety and we we don't like to
Speaker 1: we don't. That's how what you that was just unfortunately,
Speaker 1: except for better or worse, that's what.
Speaker 2: You did, and it is what it is.
Speaker 3: So we're not we don't do on it. You are
Speaker 3: a psycho bum, Yes, you were a cycle there's you
Speaker 3: should alive yourself because you're a gay cycle bump in
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety six Wow a.
Speaker 4: New T shirt, new merch psycle bomb.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: They're trying to kill it. They're trying to kill it.
Speaker 3: They're trying to kill it.
Speaker 2: Karina asks, you don't want to see me anymore?
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 1: Eric swiftly replies, Oh see, it's not just that I
Speaker 1: want to put you on a rocket ship and send
Speaker 1: you to the planet.
Speaker 3: Fluf fluga, fuf fluga.
Speaker 4: Oh you already I missed it. But my one of
Speaker 4: my favorite, like I think the best way that it
Speaker 4: goes her songwriting and her saccharine misc goes over the
Speaker 4: top is when she.
Speaker 2: Goes chew chew che Oh my god.
Speaker 4: That is such a brilliant moment. It's like, because you
Speaker 4: can established she writes these songs from when she goes
Speaker 4: and we the book get the fluid goes stop like that.
Speaker 4: That's like, it's perfect, It's perfect.
Speaker 3: I remembered every single song, did you. That was the
Speaker 3: thing that made I couldn't along with every single song.
Speaker 3: I remember, yeah, oh man.
Speaker 1: And then she strums her guitar and Eric realizes she
Speaker 1: just played a minor chord. And again, when you talk
Speaker 1: about the transitions, writer, he this is exactly in this scene. Specifically,
Speaker 1: the way you go from like, oh, fla fluga to
Speaker 1: that's a minor chord is so good and it's so funny.
Speaker 4: This is all.
Speaker 3: Obviously based on Alanis Morissett was huge at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so Jaggie Little Pill I think came out in ninety
Speaker 3: five or ninety six. So this was all based on
Speaker 3: Alanis Morissett, of course, of course.
Speaker 1: I mean she specifically mentions, yeah, her name is mentioned later,
Speaker 1: which is good that.
Speaker 2: There's at least a nod to.
Speaker 1: Karina starts to sing an edgy song channeling Alanis Morrisseid
Speaker 1: or Fiona Apple, with lyrics highlighting her heartbreak from Eric.
Speaker 1: She continuously calls him shallow boy. And those who are
Speaker 1: left in the restaurant, including Jackie, who is now dancing,
Speaker 1: she actually loves this song.
Speaker 3: Very happy with the dancing in the background. She's like
Speaker 3: going at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then we're back in the school hallway. Corey
Speaker 1: walks up to Tapanga at her locker. He thought they
Speaker 1: could grab a bite ski at this charming little place
Speaker 1: called the Cafeteria bite.
Speaker 3: Ski bite Ski bite Ski.
Speaker 4: I just thought of Broski and bro Ham and Nosiski.
Speaker 3: A bite ski.
Speaker 1: Tpega harshly asks what would be the point Corey. Corey
Speaker 1: rattles off the three points he's hungry to Benga's girlfriend.
Speaker 1: It's taco bar Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Tapega worridly asks, you would feed tacos to our child?
Speaker 3: Red flag? Red flag?
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is where story is a little, of course,
Speaker 7: but I like knowing she's a little unbalanced.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: Well, well, sure, at least at least they're both psycho.
Speaker 1: I have never I have never held back when I
Speaker 1: thought that Corey was unlikable. And so I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say to Panga, sucks. In this scene, she is handling
Speaker 1: what could be a totally normal conversation in a psycho way.
Speaker 1: For no other term, she's just crazy. And for me,
Speaker 1: the issue, I can't even believe that there's actually a
Speaker 1: real issue, which is, like, Corey, you came over to
Speaker 1: my job that I get paid for and you completely
Speaker 1: undermined me. That made me, that didn't make me feel good.
Speaker 1: And if here's a version of conflict, there's a version
Speaker 1: about our future child and him being a parent, there's
Speaker 1: actually something real there to talk.
Speaker 4: About is pretty funny, like Corey's reactions, like, that's the
Speaker 4: thing is that I think the writers just loved watching
Speaker 4: poor Corey be likely kissing and unfortunately it's an echo
Speaker 4: of what Eric's going through, right like you have you
Speaker 4: have the the psycho woman trope being played out in
Speaker 4: both storylines, and unfortunately it's just really funny.
Speaker 2: It is, so it's just too good.
Speaker 4: You could see that they were like, maybe it doesn't
Speaker 4: make sense. And even the fact that Tapanga just resolves it,
Speaker 4: like she just comes back and says, I love you
Speaker 4: anyway Corey at the end of the episode indicates that
Speaker 4: they didn't really know how to write the situation so
Speaker 4: that it actually made sense. But it doesn't matter, because
Speaker 4: the experience of comedy.
Speaker 1: Is just I know, And so I would just like
Speaker 1: to say, it doesn't change the way I feel about
Speaker 1: the episode. It doesn't even change the way I feel
Speaker 1: about the scene. It's all very funny, and Corey is
Speaker 1: so funny in his reactions. But I didn't want to
Speaker 1: not mention that Topanga is acting like a psychopath because
Speaker 1: we have a few times mentioned when we have felt
Speaker 1: like Corey has done it, So I in We are
Speaker 1: a fair show, I would go.
Speaker 4: To the extreme. I would go to the opposite, which
Speaker 4: is people's ability to connect with children is more rare
Speaker 4: than their ability to be authoritarian as a father figure.
Speaker 2: So the fact that Corey.
Speaker 4: Could connect with this kid and and make him laugh
Speaker 4: is make him at the greatest skill that you could.
Speaker 4: You should look forward to partner and like for her
Speaker 4: not to recognize that, for the show not to recognize that, like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, Corey bonding with this little boy, that
Speaker 4: is rare, especially for men, you know, in the nineties,
Speaker 4: to like to like want to bond to a kid
Speaker 4: and hang out with him and play video like that
Speaker 4: school that's there.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I you know what. I agree
Speaker 2: with you. So she's wrong, she's wrong, and she's.
Speaker 3: I just like to know, though that she's not perfect.
Speaker 3: I like knowing that she's all.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: She isn't because truthfully, one of if I were to
Speaker 1: overall and we'll wait till we get to the end
Speaker 1: of the show, because I obviously have there's so many
Speaker 1: episodes coming up that I don't know what they entail.
Speaker 2: But if I had one criticism.
Speaker 1: I think thus far of Tapanga is she was written
Speaker 1: in such an idealistic way. She is, you know, except
Speaker 1: for these moments, kind of an unrealistic portrayal.
Speaker 2: Of the pert woman. So anyway, it doesn't change the
Speaker 2: way I feel about it.
Speaker 4: Love the scene, love it, but just I think the
Speaker 4: Penga does become overbearing and controlling, like that ends up
Speaker 4: being the thing.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a perfectionist and she holds Corey to too high.
Speaker 1: Of a standard, right, But I feel like even in that,
Speaker 1: unless I'm wrong, and I might be because I have
Speaker 1: no idea what's coming. I have fully blocked out five
Speaker 1: through seven, seasons five through seven in my brain. But
Speaker 1: I think she recognizes it, Like I know she knows
Speaker 1: she has this, Like, oh, I know it's terrible that
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with all a's but it's just who I am.
Speaker 1: So there's like a more self aware version of being unlikable.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 4: We actually already have seen that. Remember when you were
Speaker 4: like demanding with the tape recorder in Phoene's face, like
Speaker 4: tell me the answer, tell me, Yeah, I can't help myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Corey freaks out, are what you and I
Speaker 2: are going to have a child. We've only kissed. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know it was a good kisser, but wow, wow.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Tapanga explains our future child, the one we'd have if
Speaker 1: we got married. Oh, that kid, would I feed him tacos?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Four for ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Cents, It's gonna be Taco crazy, Taco crazy to Beanga
Speaker 1: explains she's really upset with him and asks if he
Speaker 1: knows why. Corey guesses something I've done or haven't done,
Speaker 1: or did do but didn't do properly.
Speaker 2: Now with that said, Taco, that's where that started.
Speaker 3: So Eron and Jack do that later on dates Taco really,
Speaker 3: and I thought it was an Eric thing. I did
Speaker 3: not know it started with Corey.
Speaker 2: That is a one hundred percent Michael Jacob's thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember.
Speaker 1: I can picture him right now doing it. Tanga doesn't
Speaker 1: budge you let Billy stay up last Friday night. You'd
Speaker 1: rather be pals with our kids than a strong, responsible
Speaker 1: role model. Corey, at the risk of being argumentative, reminds
Speaker 1: her they don't have any kids. Tapega says, and we're
Speaker 1: not gonna you know why, and Corey guesses because we're
Speaker 1: just kissing. She tells him a family falls apart if
Speaker 1: there are not strong, authoritative role models at home, but
Speaker 1: Corey retorts that it wasn't their home or their kid.
Speaker 1: I'm sure what you're saying probably makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: but right now my blood sugar level is.
Speaker 2: Dropping, and all I want is a little taco.
Speaker 1: Tapega says, if that taco is more important than their child,
Speaker 1: then this family has dysfunction written all over it. She
Speaker 1: storms off, and a giddy Sean appears, asking Corey if
Speaker 1: he wants a taco. Corey a defeated Corey size, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm supposed to have one.
Speaker 3: Great read, He's like, looking around, like, I don't think
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to have so lost awesome. The curly head,
Speaker 3: curly haired kid keeps digging.
Speaker 2: It deeper and deeper and deeper. And then we're at
Speaker 2: the family Wilderness store. Eric is working in. Corey and
Speaker 2: Sean run in to ask him.
Speaker 3: A question, and I think, writer, this is probably the
Speaker 3: start of you and I not being able to work together.
Speaker 4: Because we're laughing at this.
Speaker 3: We look like we're you look like you're about to
Speaker 3: break most I'm I'm just not looking at you, like
Speaker 3: I literally I don't think I make eye contact with
Speaker 3: you once during this entire scene.
Speaker 1: This is another one of those scenes that like writer mentioned,
Speaker 1: which was such a brilliant point that sitcom acting is
Speaker 1: so much about committing and transitioning. This is another one
Speaker 1: of those scenes where they present you with thing after
Speaker 1: thing after thing, and you come up with a new
Speaker 1: one for everyone and someone. I mean at the end
Speaker 1: when you're just smiling and saying you're famous, when just
Speaker 1: before you had been arguing so committedly that it wasn't
Speaker 1: even about you.
Speaker 3: Is so great.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you?
Speaker 4: You were a whole scene is And the way it's
Speaker 4: blocked too, Like Corey and I come in, we're like
Speaker 4: one force. Alan's on the other side, and you're in
Speaker 4: the middle just bouncing, just bouncing between like what we
Speaker 4: talk about this opening though, I went back like three times,
Speaker 4: like what is going on with the noise? The sound
Speaker 4: do you guys?
Speaker 3: Do you guys hear It's terrible, It's no it's the whatever.
Speaker 4: I was like, what's going on? I literally sound in
Speaker 4: my room and I was like, is something.
Speaker 2: We paused it twice because I thought it was our
Speaker 2: baby monitor. Yes, I was like, the children are doing
Speaker 2: a weird thing. By the way, little critique not a
Speaker 2: good enough joke.
Speaker 4: No, no, it should have been set off. It should
Speaker 4: have been said. But because it happened, the sled dog
Speaker 4: reference was made after you'd already heard it for the
Speaker 4: first thirty seconds, so you're already like we would. But
Speaker 4: if you set it up as like, oh, we're listening
Speaker 4: to this crazy thing and then you hear the crazy thing,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah it's a summer.
Speaker 2: It wasn't, and it was like not loud enough.
Speaker 1: Had it been louder where it was obviously coming from
Speaker 1: the set, you would be like, so eventually they're going
Speaker 1: to acknowledge what this is right or this is going
Speaker 1: to pay off.
Speaker 2: But it was like too low. It was mixed weird. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so uh, Corey and Sean run in.
Speaker 1: They asked him a question, you know how you got
Speaker 1: this great new job with dad and your life's finally
Speaker 1: beginning to come together. Eric nods that's over. Sean asks
Speaker 1: CD player, you got one. Sean hands him a disc
Speaker 1: and Eric says he just has to pull out the
Speaker 1: sounds of the sleeping sled dogs. CD Sean explains, we
Speaker 1: were walking by Varsity Records and we saw them putting
Speaker 1: these in the window.
Speaker 2: Eric looks at the cover. Hey, this looks just like Corinna.
Speaker 3: Sean album like a day.
Speaker 4: Sean nods, actually, is I mean that is like the
Speaker 4: Insurgent that her uncle did it, which worked well, yeah earlier.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, ain't that a hoot? Sean says.
Speaker 1: Eric's astonished that she was able to put out a
Speaker 1: record so fast, but then he sees the words Uncle
Speaker 1: David's Records and Tapes on the back. Alan notices the
Speaker 1: warning not suitable for children. Eric plays the first song
Speaker 1: and it's shallow Boy. Corey points out, wow, she sounds
Speaker 1: really angry. Sean nods, yeah, and that was the ballad.
Speaker 1: Eric says, there's two billion people in the world. She
Speaker 1: could be angry about anybody. Sean reads the back of
Speaker 1: the case, track number two. Eric matthews, you're so vain.
Speaker 1: You probably didn't know the song before this was about you,
Speaker 1: and Corey says, all signs point to you. Eric says
Speaker 1: this is just something her uncle put together in a
Speaker 1: booth somewhere. It's not like anybody's gonna hear it. Then
Speaker 1: Sean turns the radio on and perfectly timed DJ announces,
Speaker 1: if you thought Alana's held a grudge, you ain't heard
Speaker 1: nothing yet. Her name is Karina, and she's real mad
Speaker 1: at some pitiful creep named Eric Matthews. This one ought
Speaker 1: to be on the charts for twenty years. Eric smiles
Speaker 1: as the song plays. He finds the silver lining in
Speaker 1: a very Corina way.
Speaker 2: I'm famous, I'm famous.
Speaker 1: Such a brilliant scene. Uh so, I mean, will you
Speaker 1: just carry this whole episode so beautifully? And then we're
Speaker 1: in the Matthews living room and now I noticed, did
Speaker 1: you guys notice the family picture does have.
Speaker 2: Lindsay in it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Does it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: We took a new one and Lindsay either it's a
Speaker 1: new one or they fote they put they put in
Speaker 1: a photo and it is lind Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I meant, I didn't think it was photoshop.
Speaker 1: I literally thought maybe they cut her face out and
Speaker 1: literally just stuck it on there.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't notice that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Lindsay is in the photo. Yes.
Speaker 1: So Corey is reading a book on the couch as
Speaker 1: Amy enters and says it's so good to see him studying,
Speaker 1: And then she reads the book's title, So you're going
Speaker 1: to be a daddy?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, suddenly I have no legs.
Speaker 4: The book who David Phddah?
Speaker 2: I love it so much.
Speaker 1: Cory says, it's not what she's thinking, miss dirty mind.
Speaker 1: Also else do you expect her to think, Miss dirty mind,
Speaker 1: you're reading a book about being a daddy. Is acting
Speaker 1: like she's crazy? Cory says, it's research. One day Tapega
Speaker 1: will be a mother and I'm going to be the
Speaker 1: father or.
Speaker 2: The uncle or the way I'm going the guy down
Speaker 2: the street with the monocular.
Speaker 1: I just want to be ready for whatever it is
Speaker 1: I'm going to be, and I want to know the uncle.
Speaker 1: What is happening here? Did he mean the same way
Speaker 1: you guys are Uncle Will and Uncle Wryder? Or does
Speaker 1: he mean he needs to again?
Speaker 3: Eric might have a stranger the world.
Speaker 4: Sean will have kids and he'll be like uncle.
Speaker 3: Then the funkle, the right, the funkle right, the knuckle
Speaker 3: funkle buncle flip flap knuckle.
Speaker 1: Guys, guys, I was reading I was reading some of
Speaker 1: our emails last night, and somebody wrote in there that
Speaker 1: all they could think of during our phil Leads story was.
Speaker 2: Nothing on your broccoli flaps, and I just I want
Speaker 2: you to know that is ruined my night.
Speaker 3: It also I ruined your broccoli.
Speaker 4: Your funkleun on your broccoli flaps.
Speaker 3: Oh god, oh that even hurt me with your broccoli flaps. Oh.
Speaker 1: I tell you you know, you really you have to
Speaker 1: You have to prepare yourself before you read our emails sometimes.
Speaker 4: So we listen to podcast or.
Speaker 3: Oh yikes.
Speaker 2: Amy assures him, you learn from experience.
Speaker 1: Your dad and I weren't prepared in advance, but we
Speaker 1: did the best we could and we ended up raising
Speaker 1: three wonderful, well adjusted children. Eric walks in right on
Speaker 1: Q announcing, now I'm a maladjusted woman, hating loser freak.
Speaker 2: Amy corrects herself. Okay, two.
Speaker 1: Corey asks if Karina came out with a new song,
Speaker 1: and again on cue, Morgan walks down the stairs singing
Speaker 1: the new Corina song about.
Speaker 3: Eric Ben and they couldn't hold it together when this
Speaker 3: is and we talked to her about this when she
Speaker 3: was on the podcast. We just every time she came
Speaker 3: down singing. We don't know if it's because she committed
Speaker 3: so hard and she's so it was so good, but
Speaker 3: it was like then she come right in our ear,
Speaker 3: and we just we couldn't hold it together. We could
Speaker 3: not hold it together.
Speaker 1: I could see it a little bit on your face,
Speaker 1: and I remember when you guys talk to her about it.
Speaker 1: And she then takes off her headphones to say, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you're my brother. Ew Eric explains that this
Speaker 1: is a very difficult situation. Karina is a sweet girl
Speaker 1: with a great artistic spirit, and it would be wrong
Speaker 1: to crush that. Morgan bursts back through the door, singing
Speaker 1: the song, suggesting Eric might be gay. Eric, here's this
Speaker 1: in yell's Okay, this chick is toast, and again, because
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety six, this is the worst insult you
Speaker 1: could hurl at a teenage boy and also the most
Speaker 1: common one.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, everything about this is very ninety six.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's ninety chick is toasted.
Speaker 3: Yep, pretty much.
Speaker 1: Alan then walks in and innocently asks you remember that
Speaker 1: girl who was playing guitar in front of our store.
Speaker 2: Eric sarcastically says, no, and I love the way you do.
Speaker 4: Know you get away audience. Being this awful to Alan
Speaker 4: would have been like whoa, dude, whoa? But we are
Speaker 4: so on your side.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Alan hands Eric a piece of paper she's looking for you.
Speaker 1: Eric reads it and says she wants to meet me later.
Speaker 1: I bet she wants to apologize. However, as the viewer,
Speaker 1: we gather, I don't think this is the case. And
Speaker 1: then they're at Chubbies because where else would they meet?
Speaker 3: I ask you.
Speaker 1: Eric is sitting waiting for Karina when we see an
Speaker 1: edgy girl and all black walk down the stairs, and
Speaker 1: this is such a cool reveal of her that she's
Speaker 1: now just She looks at Eric with pure hatred. She
Speaker 1: tells him, I'm surprised you had the guts to show up.
Speaker 1: Eric snaps back, I'm surprised you're out when the sun
Speaker 1: is up.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 4: You know, something just occurred to me. This is a
Speaker 4: great This is one of the like legendary Eric episode.
Speaker 4: And interestingly, Eric is very smart. Oh yeah, is very quick,
Speaker 4: very witty, Like that is a witty joke and like
Speaker 4: suicide was it? Like you actually have it's a it's
Speaker 4: a it's a It's a rare example of Eric working
Speaker 4: very well as a smart character. Yeah you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I don't know.
Speaker 3: It made me think like sarcastic, witty, that kind of yeah,
Speaker 3: it's they we we hit this this tone for a
Speaker 3: little while, and then I think it just cause again
Speaker 3: I don't know where we're going. I kind of know
Speaker 3: where we're going. But randomly, on the Instagram machine a
Speaker 3: I was scrolling through and a clip popped up from
Speaker 3: season seven of the when the Brothers hold a uh
Speaker 3: uh garage sale, and I watched about ninety seconds of it,
Speaker 3: and I was like, wow, Eric, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: like cartoonish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you becoming so it's it's.
Speaker 3: It's where where it's coming from here. To seeing that
Speaker 3: in the same day was like, oh, it's too completely,
Speaker 3: too completely different characters.
Speaker 4: And I think episode to episode that's understandable. I'm just yeah,
Speaker 4: I just wonder if we're going to be burned out
Speaker 4: on it by season seven, you know where I do
Speaker 4: think it becomes it becomes the like, especially once Jack
Speaker 4: enters the show, Eric really does just become the absurdist.
Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, YE was watching it. I
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, it's really is a living cartoon character.
Speaker 4: Right because right now we've been balancing it, you know,
Speaker 4: we have the like his brain activity is not as
Speaker 4: high as that mouth. And they have this episode and
Speaker 4: you're kind of like, all right, it's.
Speaker 3: You know, a moment to moment, but yeah, so much
Speaker 3: like we were talking about how this is peak Danielle
Speaker 3: but in her personal life as a character, this might
Speaker 3: be peak Eric, right, like where he's kind of the
Speaker 3: best will in a personal life that's down the line.
Speaker 3: I haven't even come close to that yet. We're I'm
Speaker 3: still attaining that because I've got so much growth to do,
Speaker 3: because I'm awesome but about to get even more awesome.
Speaker 4: Eric.
Speaker 3: This I think might be kind of of like the
Speaker 3: perfect wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: Fair right, Yeah, where you've got a job, you've got
Speaker 1: whip smart like wit.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think we're just going to discover that
Speaker 4: season four is the best.
Speaker 7: I mean, so far, so good after another Like me,
Speaker 7: I mean we said so many legendary you still have
Speaker 7: the one. I think that the episode, all that stuff
Speaker 7: is season yeah, right, I think Singled Out I think
Speaker 7: is season four too.
Speaker 3: When Chris Hardwick comes on.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot that's I think the Nasir
Speaker 1: Broccoli Week is Yeah, Phill leads kid, I remember, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Corina flips open a small notebook and writes down
Speaker 1: mysterious vampire references from a pseudo angry man. Eric nervously
Speaker 1: asks what she's doing. She says, I just write things
Speaker 1: down from time to time. She says, so, uh, why
Speaker 1: else don't you like me? And Eric admits, well, you're
Speaker 1: making my life miserable. I just want you to cut
Speaker 1: it out. Korinna opens the notebook up again. Mew meow
Speaker 1: came the sound from the whining cat.
Speaker 2: What else you got up to you?
Speaker 4: It's it's a good choice to not have her with
Speaker 4: the guitar in this one. Yeah, it would have been
Speaker 4: too much, right, Yeah, it's like one because we already
Speaker 4: had that that scene, multiple scenes with her like playing everything.
Speaker 4: So to have her just writing it down very smart,
Speaker 4: very smart writers part because it would have just and
Speaker 4: you know, they had a draft where it had her
Speaker 4: doing the guitar thing. Again. Really, let's pull it back.
Speaker 2: It worked.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Eric gets up to leave. He said his piece.
Speaker 1: Karina jumps up to stop him. I know you've got
Speaker 1: lots of anger. Yell at me, dump me, make me
Speaker 1: feel bad. Eric pauses and realizes she's out of material.
Speaker 1: Karina denies it but Eric knows that's why she had
Speaker 1: to see him. She rolls her eyes. That's not true.
Speaker 1: Eric continues, Uncle Dave needs some more angry songs, and
Speaker 1: you don't have him. Karina assures him she's a very
Speaker 1: dark and edgy girl. She has tons of songs. Eric asks,
Speaker 1: you know what I see.
Speaker 2: When you when I look at you dandelions.
Speaker 1: Eric starts to push the tiny vase of dandelions on
Speaker 1: the table closer and closer.
Speaker 4: A little bigger. Even in the previous scene, I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: what are they referencing? It just needs a little cartoon.
Speaker 2: Must not have been dandelion's season.
Speaker 3: Correct, And it's nice that there's fresh dandelions at Chubbubbies
Speaker 3: on the table. Of course.
Speaker 4: Of course, also for the first time, Chubbies is not
Speaker 4: a counter service. Don't just check to trying something that week.
Speaker 1: Were so pretty dandelions and flowers on a sunny day.
Speaker 1: She stutters she doesn't want to look at the dandellions.
Speaker 1: She'll lose her edge. Eric encourages her, I know your
Speaker 1: true self. No, Karina insists, I'm a trouble twisted soul.
Speaker 1: You know nothing about me. Eric starts to sing the
Speaker 1: sun will come out tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar that
Speaker 1: when and Karina finishes Tomorrow. Karina breaks into full song
Speaker 1: and Eric tries to leave, but she notices. He quickly
Speaker 1: runs back to her and they sing the rest of
Speaker 1: Tomorrow together, getting a loud applause from the audience. Lesha
Speaker 1: came in hot. She knew everything about this character. She
Speaker 1: totally nailed it.
Speaker 3: So s this scene though, so where we record it.
Speaker 3: We film it once and she like's kind of standing backstage.
Speaker 3: We're talking about it and she walks up to me
Speaker 3: and she's super serious and she's like, can I can
Speaker 3: I talk to you about something? I was like, of course,
Speaker 3: what what's going on? She's like, I didn't want to
Speaker 3: say this, but you're starting the song too high a
Speaker 3: pitch and I can't get there. Can you drop the note?
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, of course, of course, but
Speaker 3: I thought i'd like done something raw. Like she was
Speaker 3: so serious about it. She's like, yeah, it's just you're
Speaker 3: you're starting a too high a note and I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so she's like, can you please started him up? And
Speaker 3: it was like she felt bad about coming over and
Speaker 3: asking me. I was like, of course, of course, Like
Speaker 3: I seriously thought I'd done something stone face something.
Speaker 4: Yes was do you remember if Ray Colecourt was on
Speaker 4: set for any of this?
Speaker 3: I don't. I do remember it was Michael who because
Speaker 3: I think we both finished the song in one of
Speaker 3: the takes and Michael's like, no, become the conductor. Do this.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, do something big like that.
Speaker 2: So that was another Michael joke, got joke that you
Speaker 2: doing that is so funny.
Speaker 3: It's great, And that was all Michael. But the yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that. I thought I'd done something so wrong.
Speaker 3: And she was like, can you can you start the
Speaker 3: note lower? Like, oh, God, of course, sorry, So that's
Speaker 3: why I start with the son.
Speaker 4: It'll come like down right, you're a little lower, right,
Speaker 4: so she can go high.
Speaker 1: Well, then we're back in the Matthews living room. Corey
Speaker 1: is reading a bedtime story to Morgan. As to Pega
Speaker 1: secretly walks in and observes he reads that night the
Speaker 1: Purple Duck taught all his little friends to go to
Speaker 1: bed early, to eat our green vegetables, and that there's
Speaker 1: no reason to be afraid of the potty. Morgan notes
Speaker 1: that little purple Duck is quite the overachiever, isn't he?
Speaker 1: Corey tells her it's time to go to bed. Now
Speaker 1: go brush your teeth. Morgan fights back, Billy Epperson said
Speaker 1: at his house, you let him stay up late and
Speaker 1: watch TV. Corey asks, have we learned nothing from the
Speaker 1: Purple Duck? Morgan pouts, You're just making me go to
Speaker 1: bed because i'm your sister. Corey tells her, no, I'm
Speaker 1: making you go to bed because i'm your brother and
Speaker 1: I love you. Morgan leans in and kisses Corey on
Speaker 1: the cheek before retreating upstairs to Panga, who's been watching
Speaker 1: like a creep the whole time, is smiling when Corey
Speaker 1: finally notices her, did you come over to yell at
Speaker 1: me some more? She says no, she heard he was babysitting,
Speaker 1: so she thought she'd bring him some tacos. Corey hesitantly
Speaker 1: asks if this is a trap to Pega says she
Speaker 1: just figured it. Empty house, cozy couch, dangerous me, and
Speaker 1: maybe you. Corey says, before he lowers his shields, he
Speaker 1: wants to know what made Topanga change her mind. She
Speaker 1: admits she just thought she just thought about it.
Speaker 2: On camera, that we're young, so we're not having kids
Speaker 2: for a while, and maybe by the time we do,
Speaker 2: you'll be a pretty good dad. So it's a novel process.
Speaker 2: She just thought about it. Off camera.
Speaker 1: Corey agrees he'll be a great dad because because kids
Speaker 1: respect him. As he's saying this, Morgan has made her
Speaker 1: way downstairs and is sneaking all of her little friends
Speaker 1: in through the front door. Corey continues his speech, oblivious
Speaker 1: to the kids. He calls himself mister discipline. As Topanga
Speaker 1: points toward the stairs, Corey sees what's happening and says,
Speaker 1: so we will have kids.
Speaker 2: And then we're in the.
Speaker 1: Tag at the Wilderness store. Eric is tagging items as
Speaker 1: the radio plays in the background, and then we hear tagging.
Speaker 3: In the tag.
Speaker 1: We hear announcer voice, We've got the latest single by
Speaker 1: that angry young lady, Corina Collins who's taken the country
Speaker 1: by storm. I haven't heard this one yet. It's called
Speaker 1: Fuzzy Wuzzy whoa. The song starts to play, and it's official.
Speaker 1: Coriina has completely lost her edge. She's singing about wanting
Speaker 1: to cuddle a boy. The DJ cuts it almost immediately. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's bad.
Speaker 3: She is over.
Speaker 1: Eric laughs maniacally as he finishes tagging his items.
Speaker 4: So great, it was great.
Speaker 3: It is season four, season hot way hot Yeah, Hot
Speaker 3: hot hot Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode
Speaker 1: of podmets World. Please join us for our next episode recap,
Speaker 1: which will be season for episode six, Janitor Dad. It
Speaker 1: originally aired October twenty fifth, nineteen ninety six, on.
Speaker 4: Episode Yeah, and we just keep alternating Eric Sean, Eric,
Speaker 4: show Sean.
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