WEBVTT - THE EAGLES: IAN AND NOAH 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:16.079 Today, my guests are the Eagles and Noah together and 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.800 our first ever father son episode. Now, Iron Eagle has 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.080 been at the top tier of sports play by play 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.560 for the long run. Noah used to be the new 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.960 kid in town. Now he's living life in the fast lane, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:34.360 not partying, of course, ascending the sportscasting ranks at warp speed. Okay, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.839 those will be my last Eagles references. I know, low 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.040 hanging Fruit, but I am a fan of the band 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.360 for about fifty years, and also, of course a fan 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.960 of the broadcasting Eagles. I've admired iron superb work for decades. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.640 Who hasn't calling the NFL, the Masters, and college hoops 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.320 for CBS. I will take over his play by play 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.520 voice of the Final Four next season. He's also worked 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.080 the NBA for TNT, he called Rolling Eras for Tennis Channel, 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.760 and he's been the TV voice of the Nets Brooklyn 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.920 and New Jersey since ninety five. Noah calls the LA 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.280 Clippers games on Radio, a gig he earned fresh out 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.720 of Syracuse, but is also called college football and NFL 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.760 on Fox and Nickelodeon. He'll work Big Ten Football for 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.560 NBC this fall, and also works for Tennis channel, and 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.480 I'm probably forgetting a few things all by the age 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.000 of twenty five. The gift for storytelling on and off 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.640 the air runs deep in the Eagle family. There's a 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.160 lot of laughs here and great behind the scenes stuff. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:38.720 Just three sports guys shooting the breeze well, Iron Eagle, 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.839 Noah Eagle. Thank you guys for making time during busy 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.440 periods in your seasons. I am fans of both of 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.640 your work. Massive respect for you. I in no I 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.880 have less time to build up that massive respect, but 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.360 you're well on your way to being very high in 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.520 my books too, so we appreciate. Let's have some fun 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:01.320 with this. We will talk about the present in the past, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.520 which is compelling for both of you, but I want 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.080 to just talk about the near future because you guys 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.520 both have very exciting assignments. Within the next twelve months. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.520 You will take over as the game caller play by 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.280 play in the Final four, following in the footeps of 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.440 Jim Nantz so I believe called it. Since Adolph Rupp 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.480 was winning Championship Kentucky, it's been a long time. You 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.160 might be well deserved, and you've done obviously college hoops 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.680 and probes for a long time, and Noah, you'll be 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.280 diving into the fray in prime time college football with 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.120 NBC calling Big ten games. So while I wish I 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:41.360 in really close, compelling final fours, I wish you a 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.720 season of blowouts and first round knockouts as you go 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.040 head to head against our game on ABC. I hope 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.000 you have a bunch of six to three games in 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.359 West Lafayette, but you know. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.799 You'd be surprised. I mean, the first college football game 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.280 I did this year on Fox, it was a seven 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.400 to three final with no touchdown, So your parents for anything, considering, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.639 I got through that one and didn't cry myself to 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.120 sleep after, I think I'm good to go. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.320 Well, it's awesome you're working with Todd Blackfatch, with whom 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.400 I worked. He's a friend, and Catherine Tappan has been 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.080 a neighbor of Jennifer of mine and two different New 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.320 York buildings, so I close close connections to your booth. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.079 You'll have great fun. I seriously wish you the best. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.760 It's a It's a very cool thing to go to 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.800 those big ten stadiums and call those games. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.120 So I appreciate it now I'm looking forward to it. 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.799 You guys. Both from doing my my prep and listening 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:31.440 to numerous interviews, you both seem to be extremely comfortable 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.080 and confident performing, whether it was on stage or in 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.280 front of a camera a microphone at a really young age, 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.560 which I'm incredibly envious because I certainly was not. It's 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.480 took me a long time to get there. But but 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.760 I your parents were in show business. Your mom was 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.080 a singer, dad was a comedian, and you were thrust 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.760 out on stage. You said at eight, at age four 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.680 or five, to like entertain the crowd. But those crowds 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.320 could be tough, with those borsch belt rooms, right, I mean. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:01.160 Yeah, child labor laws be damned. But basically I would 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.040 get a bagel and a milkshake, form my troubles at 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:09.000 the end of my shtick, and my mom would open 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.280 and would do a solid forty minutes of music and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:19.359 a gifted singer. Really, I think because of the era 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:24.520 no YouTube and no videotapes to show for it. I 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.320 wish that I had the material to go back and listen. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:33.640 I just remember in my experience just how talented she was. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.400 And then my dad would come on. He would do 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.720 forty to forty five minutes of comedy, and then at 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.159 the end of it, they'd bring me out for about 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.159 five minutes of impressions where I did Howard Kosel and 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:50.960 Muhammad Ali and the always popular W. C. Fields, and 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.640 I would kill you. They put me in a handsome suit, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:59.479 sometimes three piece suit, corduroy green, and they would just 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.000 wind me up, and I'd go out there and do it. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.279 And I do think, Chris, you hit on something that 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.479 was from a very young age. So I was injected 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:13.000 with confidence before I even had an idea what confidence was. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:19.000 So school plays or any kind of performances seemed very 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.120 much within the realm and within my sphere. So when 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.040 I went to college and I wanted to break into 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.960 TV and radio at Syracuse, it was not a big leap. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.080 The camera was not intimidating, the mic was not intimidating. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.480 Going in front of crowds or an audience not intimidating. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.400 And I think to some degree, Noah felt that through 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.440 the generations and then just from watching me and being 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.480 around me and recognizing that this is pretty normal. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.680 No you did the same thing, not Borschpelt comedy, but 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.680 obviously you felt complied. You said you were that kid 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.560 that would always be in front of the class, comfortable 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.920 with oral reports and stuff like that. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:01.880 I mean, the one thing that you do need to 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.880 ask my dad Chris, is how is it that he 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.200 had more drip at seven. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:06.560 Than he does? 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.120 Like, I've never seen him pack a handsome suit for 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.880 a trip. Where where's handsome suit in modern day? 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.320 Yes, it's the seventies. Noah, that's the that's the difference. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:21.960 The seventies that had drip from every pore because you 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.920 were matching your your jacket to your tie. You were 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:31.040 going same material shirt and jacket. There was no shame, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.159 so it all worked somehow. That's a great point. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:38.800 I'm excited for your mushroom shirt. That mushroom shirt, it'll 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.440 be good. But now you're absolutely right, i'd say, young age, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.120 I think that you know. It wasn't that I got 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.240 to push from the from them or anything, but it 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.440 was this this nudge of hey, you're good at this, naturally, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.440 just keep doing it. It was encouragement. Every time I 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.280 went in front of the class, it felt right. It 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:00.440 just was easy God, And so yeah, I remember the 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.839 big one was in fifth grade we got to sign 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.200 biographies that we had to read. I got to sign 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.320 Bill Gates, and most kids just went and delivered their 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.080 speech and went on with their day. And my mom, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.480 I think, convinced me you should dress up as Bill 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.720 Gates and go the whole nine yards. So sure enough, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.880 here's little Noah, who was already smaller than everybody in 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.520 the class, in a suit that probably didn't fit them, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.800 wearing glasses, and bringing in a poster board that was 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.280 a fake big check to the school that I gave. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.800 So I went all out, and at the end of speech, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.320 my teacher came up to me and said, whatever you 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.280 do one day, you're going to have public speaking in 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:41.680 your future. And I said to her, no, no, I'm 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.840 going to play in the NBA, because that was my 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.840 prerogative at the time. And I think I quickly realized 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.600 that was very unrealistic and my vertically challengedness and my 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.880 limited athletic ability would restrict that, and so I made 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.480 the pivot. But yeah, it was. It was just something 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.000 that it felt right every time I did it. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.680 For me, I for more common in your generation than mine, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.960 because I think a lot of kids have been looking 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.280 at a camera attached to their phone since they're toddlers, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.400 and so it seems very normal to look into glass 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.000 and express yourself and kind of be yourself. Not so 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.080 for me. I was terrified of public speaking. I didn't 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.840 even like it in my early years of broadcasting. There 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.440 were just many good reasons to overcome that. When you 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.760 found out that the Talah Hassi Quarterback Club actually paid 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.800 you to go down there and talk about football better 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.800 damn well, get over your fear. But you know, I 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.640 and I can't even imagine. I mean, I guess you 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.240 don't know what you don't know at five years old, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.000 but I was. My dad was a theater director, different 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.599 kind of show business in yours, but they were both theatrical. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.680 And I could have played I don't know mcduff's son 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.240 on stage, and you know, I had a few cute lines, 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:46.679 and then he gets murdered by making baths, so it's 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.520 not a great part, but I would. I was just 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.480 terrified of the notion of standing in front of people, 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.640 looking into faces and doing anything. And it didn't translate 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.319 to being scared of being on a mic or a camera, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:04.439 thank god. But I admire that you were calling nets 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:09.000 games and when Noah was born, fortunate they weren't on 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.360 the road. I guess that magical night back in ninety seven. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.240 Was it? It was ninety six. Very good research on 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.200 your part. The Nets were indeed at home. They played 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.640 the Seattle SuperSonics that night. My wife Elisa went into 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:30.000 labor at the wee morning hours, so I was able 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:35.240 to get her to the hospital, watch Noah being born, 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.080 which was incredible, and then work the Net game. That 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.400 night they beat the Seattle SuperSonics. They had Sean Camp 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.400 Gary Payton. The Nets did not have Sean Camp and 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.000 Gary Payton, and yet found a way to win the way. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.680 I remember we had just moved to New Jersey into 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:59.079 a townhouse and my wife overnight said something's a little 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.480 bit off, but I don't really think this is it. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.000 So there was trepidation, and then finally at like three something, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:10.320 she said, now this is it. It's happening. I said, okay, 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.880 I'm going to shower, and that threw her off, like 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.679 you what do you mean? I was like, well, you know, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.160 I want to be fresh for this, So I start 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.120 plowing through lights because I want to get pulled over, 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.079 like this is the dream that a cop pulls you over. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.920 And nobody pulled me over. I just kept plowing through 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:35.400 reds and Elisa says, hey, you know what, just park 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:40.479 in front in case this isn't it, in case it's 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.559 it's a false alarm. I was like, what, you don't 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.080 want me to pay for parking? What's what's your thought 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:50.240 process here? So I placated her and we walk in 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.440 and she explained what's going on in the nurse and 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.679 the nurse said, no, no, no, it's it's happening. It's real. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:00.480 So Noah was born early in the morning. We were 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.720 watching Regis and Kathy Lee. I recall that, and then 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.360 I just assumed I was going to do the game. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.199 I said, are you good? She's like, yeah, no, go 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.400 for it. So I ended up doing the game. And 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:16.319 that's God Is. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.880 You have an amazing command of information and numbers, which 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.200 is important in the job. Do you know Noah's weighted 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.280 birth because I'm sure you know how many points Kendall 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.800 Gill had in that game that she called so. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.880 Yeah, Kendall had fifteen. I know that. Noah. Noah, I 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:38.120 believe was was seven pounds three ounces somewhere. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.319 And guessing now, I would never know. You're just guessing, Noah, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.840 do you know do you know the number? How could 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.040 you forget seven pounds? 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.240 Five? Seven pounds? 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:47.800 Do you know your own weight? Is that? 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:49.560 Is that actually true? 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.240 I had a revelation when he was telling the story 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.920 because for all my life people always ask how are 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.160 you just so chill all the time? And now it's 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.800 maybe because my dad decided to shower when my mom 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.240 was in labor and then just leave the car front. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:05.680 You're good? 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.880 Yeah, well that great point. 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.120 That was a hero because when you get this question, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.559 are you good? I mean you just had a human 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:20.320 come out of you. Are you good? Like no? Do 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.360 you remember your first sports memory? I mean, I know 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.280 you were a fan from from almost day one. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:26.040 What was it? 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.360 What was the first game you wouldall watching or or 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.440 watching your dad work? 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:30.680 Yeah? 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:34.040 I would say it goes back probably to the preseason 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.520 Jets times. You know when I was born. I was 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.640 born ninety six, as he said, and Keishon Johnson just 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.719 came to the league, was number one overall picked to 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.360 the Jets. I had a jersey. And those are the 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.360 photos all around the house of me in the in 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.040 the bright green nineteen looks good, still looks good, and 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.280 it's still I think hung up in my old room 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.360 that has now been turned into everything. But my old room. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:55.839 It's funny. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 I know it's a it's a yoga studio. Chris his 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.480 old group that's not existing. It's over. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.480 But I do think Mike Key, Shawn Johnson still still 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.160 hung us. No, it's still there. Probably number one. But 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.800 in terms of games that were seminal to me at 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.360 that young age, there was a game I was early. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.720 I went to all those finals games the Nets made 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.240 in two and three, and those stick with me. But 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.160 there was a game in the playoffs that the Nets 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.600 played the Pacers and Reggie Miller. You can go back, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.079 game five, best of five series, so winner to the 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.360 ball at Continental Airlines Arena. Dad's doing the game. I 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.040 went with my mom. Reggie Miller hits a half court 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.360 heave to force overtime. Now, if you go back and 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.400 watch it, technically was late, but the clocks were off, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.760 so they counted the bucket. He banked it in from 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.400 half court, go to overtime, and then he had a 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.920 dunk to force double overtime. The floor was shaking. It 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.920 was one of those where, yeah, the first time I 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.760 felt an arena actually, and it felt like an earthquake 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.560 around me, and there was something that stuck with me 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.560 of when the nets pulled away. Ron Mercer had a 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.520 big double ot, Jason Kidd had a couple of huge 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.559 rebounds and assists, and there was something that as always 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.600 walking away. It was like, I don't know if I'll 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.240 ever get this feeling again, this feeling of togetherness, this 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.760 feeling of we just went through a life changing out 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.200 of body experience with eighteen thousand of people that we 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.800 don't even know. And I think that was the first 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.400 time it shifted of Oh, this is awesome. I want 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:21.000 more of this. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.680 I knew your answer would make me feel not quite young, 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:30.120 considering I covered Kishan destroying Northwestern in the Rose Bowl story. Jets, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.280 that's a good first memory. You said something that made 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.280 me think of why I first wanted to do this. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.680 You get that question a lot, right, And it took 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.240 me a while to figure this out in life. But 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.120 it was about witnessing and being a part of people 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.200 expressing joy together. It was the roar of the crowd 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.200 when the Blackhawks scored a goal and Lloyd Pettitt set 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.320 a shot and like, oh he drew it out and 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.880 there's the organ and the crowd and he laid out 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.680 because there was no choice but to lay out with 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.080 the kind of noise there, and I thought, I still 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.240 get chills that what could be better than that and 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.240 than having that many people so happy together. I don't 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.800 know if Ian, what sparked you to first figure out 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.240 that you got a passion for sports and be you 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.000 want to be involved some way in doing this. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.680 Well, two things struck me from Noah's to him. One, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.960 he's right. Keishawn Johnson was his guy. And it got 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.120 to the point, Chris where he was about two years 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.120 old and we would go to the grocery store and 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.880 Noah would wander off in front of us and would 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.920 keep an eye on him, and he'd go down the 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:38.960 aisle and he would not respond to the name Noah. Alisa, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.160 my wife, had to call him Kishawn in order. He 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.320 was role playing to that level. So he's going down 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.080 the produce department and Alisa said, Noah, Noah will not 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.320 turn around Keishawan. And then people are like, you name 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.680 your kid Keishaan, you're that big a jet fan. So 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.800 he went through about a year and a half phase. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.880 He only responded, gonna talk about the loudspeaker. We got 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.080 a toe tap in Aisle two. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.200 What wasn't it? Was it just the name or was 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.440 the persona when you walking around? Just give me the 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:15.120 damn sereal? Was it like a whole angry Keishan vibe 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.840 or was it just call me Keishan? 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.480 It was everything. I had a little swat and it 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.320 felt good every day. Woke up and knew it was 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.800 gonna be a great day. Woke up and new I 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.720 had greatness pumping through my blood. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.880 Yeah, so that's the first thing. Then the second thing 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.080 the game that Noah is talking about. That game five 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.760 of the first round series, Nets and Pacers the Nets 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.880 with a one seed. If they don't advance, the season 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.440 would have actually been considered a failure. They want a 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.560 record amount of games and franchise history. Jason Kidd turned 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.640 the team around, but it comes down to the final 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.640 game of that opening round series. They go to overtime 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.760 because of Miller, They go to the second overtime because 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.760 of Reggie Miller, and then Kid just takes over and 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.320 I'm doing the game with Bill Raftree. It ended up 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.920 being Bill's last year doing Nets games, and he had 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:07.440 done it twenty years, so it really was a cathartic experience. 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.560 If you could find these highlights. You think Bill has 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:18.640 high energy in general, this game, Bill was at another 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.119 level because there were so many emotions coming out of 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.639 him in that game. And to be sitting next to 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.760 him in that moment to feel what Noah described of 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.520 eighteen thousand people and Chris as you described the cacophony 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:37.200 of sound between the pa, between the crowd and the energy, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.719 you're hooked. You're hooked in moments like that. I didn't 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:45.720 know Continental Airlines Arena could actually rock like that because 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.159 it had never really happened for a net game. For me, 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.720 baseball was everything for me as a kid. Anything was 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.280 a distant second. So I grew up in Queens. I 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.120 grew up a huge Mets fan. Being a Mets fan 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.280 in the mid seventies, it was not a good place 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.239 to be and you had to be pretty strong and 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.800 courageous to walk into school when the Yankees are winning 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.640 titles in nineteen seventy seven and Reggie Jackson hitting three 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.480 home runs in a pivotal game in the World Series 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.919 against the Dodgers, and Charlie Huff and Bert Houghton and 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:22.879 Elia Sosa and I'm walking in with a le Mozilli lunchbox, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:28.080 just hoping not to get ridiculed. So I dug in 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.439 with my fandom, and it really was about baseball. It 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.760 was about Bob Murphy and Lindsay Nelson and Ralph Kiner 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.600 who were calling the games back then. Eventually Tim McCarver 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.399 and Steve Zabriski and other announcers that stepped in, and 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.360 I was just fascinated by that part of it, fascinated 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.080 by Marv Albert and the job he was doing in 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.399 New York as played by play Man for the Knicks 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.119 the Rangers, doing local news at six and eleven o'clock. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:57.000 I just thought to myself, this is insane. This man 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.439 can do all these things, get paid for it, and 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.600 then do it the next night and the next night 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.560 and the next night, and this is a career. So 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.840 I decided very early on. I was eight years old 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.760 when I told my parents what I wanted to do, 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:14.680 and they were both so encouraging and resolute. Again, this 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:21.920 is almost like an irrational form of confidence that your 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.600 parents tell you can do it at eight years old, 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.959 so you believe them. And that was it. I just 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.679 believed I would do it, and that led me to 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.080 whatever stages it takes to do this for a living. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:36.679 It was almost blind faith. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.440 We were about the same age. I was a Cubs fans. 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.000 I don't want to hear about the Mets angst in 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.639 the seventies because the Cubs slow motion collapsed in sixty 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.439 nine at the hands of the miracle Mets was a 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:52.000 traumatic experience for a young seven year old, and I, 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.320 despite that, decided this is what I want to do, 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:55.840 even though none of the teams I writed for win 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.160 any championships when I was a kid. But yeah, that's 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.800 it's it is infectious. No, I would imagine, you know, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.040 your dad doesn't suck at this profession, but also seems 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.119 to really have a passion for it. And that's not 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.600 a given. There's many people who do this job extremely well, 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.359 don't love it deeply, and certainly when they go home 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.040 away from the gig, don't express the love and the 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.520 gratitude for it that people expect. They might that not 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.359 being the case, I probably made it pretty easy for 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.000 you to jump in and embrace. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:30.120 This one thousand percent. One thousand percent. It's one thing 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.840 to watch a parent go through life and wake up 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:35.359 and say, all right, it's time to go to work 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.520 and just go through the routine, and that's that, and 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.080 that can still be a very good life. There's nothing 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.920 wrong with that. But to your point, when your parent 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.480 finds a passion and it's something that they wake up 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.080 with a smile on their face, no matter how many 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.679 hours of preparation is required, money, how many games in 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.760 one week can take you all across the country, and 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:59.439 red eye flights can maybe derail your sleep schedule. To 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.800 still have that smile on his face, to still have 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.520 that same level of enthusiasm as when he first started, 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:08.120 that was everything for me. For him to get home 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:09.840 and then watch him as he got ready for the 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.400 next game, to sit in his office and read through 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.280 media guides, which I don't even know if they exist anymore, 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:20.080 which is it's still upsetting as somebody legitimately sat in 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.080 his chair in his office and went page by page 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:27.679 learning ridiculous facts about Zadrenus Aldauskis for no reason. You know, 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.000 that just was what I enjoyed doing, and I was 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.040 I was somebody who loved the sport so much. Certainly 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.080 basketball was at the top of football and baseball and 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.960 everything that I really kind of took in as a kid. 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:41.000 I loved it all so much that I didn't mind 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.120 sitting there and just watch, you know, and just take in. 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.040 So everybody always asked me, what's the advice that you 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.240 got as a little kid from your dad, or what's 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.359 the one thing he told you that eventually led you 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.880 to this. It's nothing of what he said, it's everything 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.000 of what he did. And it was the example that 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.760 to your point, waking up and being very excited to 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.600 get to work and so have that relationship with him, 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.399 it's easy for that to rub off on you. 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.920 Despite the talent and the preparation, no matter what stage 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.440 we're at in your career, there are still those there's 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.120 sink or swim moments. And that's what fascinates me about 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.760 this business. Get asked about it a lot, and it 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.920 might be a sport you haven't done before, it might 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.280 be an unfamiliar situation that you're thrust upon. There was 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.240 no way to prepare for it. It's just in front 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.760 of you now. And how that is handled, I think 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.200 it is so important. And I've heard you tell stories. 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.720 You've never even been to a golf tournament. Now you're 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:37.639 covering the Masters for CBS Amen Corner. Yeah, that's like 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.320 having no basic training and just parachuting into a battlefield. 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.880 Good luck, son. I mean, I'm sure at that point 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.640 you're already a skill broadcaster, but stuff like that your 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.280 first ever tennis match experience, which I know is a 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:55.560 long story, but just being able to have the presence 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.560 and the instincts how to deal with that in the 0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:58.800 moment is impressive. Man. 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:03.280 Yeah, and Chris, as you can relate to. Nobody tells 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.760 you that it's going to be a pivotal moment in 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:10.080 your career, so you have to have a sense of awareness, 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.879 but you can't be too aware that this might overwhelm you. 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.919 It's a very fine line of being in the moment 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.280 but also not allowing it to become too big or 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.920 too much or an avalanche as you're trying to fight 0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:29.320 your way through it. Yeah, the golf thing, I think 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.119 it was really a case and I look back on 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:36.120 it now that CBS trusted me, and that's a huge 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.720 word in our business when your bosses start to trust you. 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:44.199 And that was probably pivotal as I look back on 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.720 my career of recognizing without them saying it, but based 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:51.800 on the assignment getting Army Navy in two thousand and two. 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:54.840 That came out of a left field. I had not 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:58.159 done college football for CBS. That was not something that 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.600 I assumed could happen. They gave it to me, and 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.600 I ended up doing it for nine years and with 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.239 boomersize and for most of those years, even though there 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:09.520 was a time we were trying to get into the 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:13.280 stadium and President Bush was attempting to get in as well, 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.399 and Boomer and I are now on the perimeter and 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:20.440 he makes eye contact with a security guard near the door. 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.040 We were not going to be able to get in. 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.479 They were not going to let us in, and clearly 0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:27.680 the security guard recognized Boomer, so he gives him a 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.040 nod and we start walking over. He grabs my hand 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.040 as if I was his child, and he's dragging me 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.840 with him to get to the entrance. And now we 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.840 get there and the guy says, big fan, mister Simms, 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.479 and I turned a Boomer. He called you, Phil sent 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.400 you shut up, and he brought me in. He did 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.159 not want me to share that story, but it happened. 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:50.000 It happens. 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.320 You know, I could do a whole podcast on the 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.840 presence of a president's former and current who have ruined 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.920 the Vans, and it certainly killed some of the fun 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.159 by just showing up along with her secret service squad. 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.680 Yeah, so Boomer had to suck it up and be 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.000 Phil Simms for a moment just to get into the venue. 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.960 And the golf event that you mentioned, I did track 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:11.639 and field. I had never been to a track and 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.680 field event. I ended up doing eight straight NCAA Track 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:19.919 and Field Outdoor Championships and loved it. I thought the 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:24.000 whole vibe was a play by play man's dream. Every 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:28.920 race is good. If it's a lopsided race, it's exciting 0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:33.760 that someone's dominating the field. If it's close, it's equally 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.920 exciting that it's coming right down to the wire and 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:41.159 someone's gonna win in the very last instant. So I 0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.919 enjoyed it. I try to bring enthusiasm and energy to 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:49.560 whatever event that I'm calling, and ultimately those moments that 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.879 you're alluding to, Chris, that you've had a number throughout 0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:53.760 your career on the hosting side and the play by 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:59.360 play side, it's about being in the moment and delivering 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.199 in the moment. And there's no guidebook there, there's no 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:08.320 how to, It's it's a personal navigation of how to 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.119 handle it and how to make it work. 0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.359 Yeah, you just never know when a curveball is going 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.200 to be throwing your way. I had done a lot 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.560 of stuff, but my first year doing the ABC primetime booth, 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.719 succeeding Brent Musburger who had done it a long time, 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.240 and obviously with Ramon Keith Jackson's I've grown up watching 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.119 and listening with these guys, and now I'm calling it 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.520 after calling week one of the US Open Monday through 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.040 Thursday day and night, jumping a plane, doing a three 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.520 hour pregame show game day Saturday morning for at Worth. 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.480 Now I'm down in AT and T Stadium in Florida 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.200 State's playing, and you know, it's a very nice booth. 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.440 It's pretty close to the field. Out comes Florida State 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:49.159 in alternative uniforms, white jerseys, numbers that I would describe 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:54.080 as urine yellow and a light a light urine yellow, 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:58.880 and you can't see them. I couldn't see the numbers 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.600 from the booth in warm up, which is kind of 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.920 a problem. Yeah, and you know, I'm not I was prepared. 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.840 I wasn't nervous. But you see that and you're thinking, 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:10.560 oh shit, like you know, I am going to be 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.239 judged by this game. I want to do it well. 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.080 I want to meet my own standard. You just turn 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.040 to your spoder, buddy, have a good night. We're going 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.480 to call off the monitor. You're going to back end 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.800 the call. You can back end the player ID caught 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.239 first down thirty two and it's Isaac Sims. You know 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.120 what the things we do when you can't immediately identify 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.840 the player. But in college, I don't want to say 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.879 it's much more challenge. In the NFL. That's debatable, but 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.919 it is. No there's double the number of guys on 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.080 the field, and right, twelve guys will catch a pass 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.400 in a college game, half that in an NFL game, 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.480 And so it's kind of important to know the numbers. 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.560 And I somehow got through it but did not meet 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.400 my standard. And it's just an example of just when 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.480 you think you've got this down, here comes the curveball. 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.320 Right Yeah, And you know, I think Noah obviously went 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.640 through it doing college. This here he got thrown into 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.879 a couple of NFL games. And I don't want to 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:04.480 speak for you, Noah, but I think it felt like 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.320 a vacation in many ways. 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.840 The Nickelodeon shows are amazing. I want to tell you this. 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:13.000 I mean, I I don't have a encyclopedic knowledge of 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.639 Nickelodeon's characters, but I did see part of that and 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.000 I look back at a piece of it. Man, you know, 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.720 you and Nate Olsen do no just a phenomenal job 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.280 with the slime coming at CG slime and here comes 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.640 the getting. I mean, what a cool thing to document 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.520 some pretty important and notewere the NFL games in this 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.000 Nickelodeon style. 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:35.119 Well, and that's that's one of the hardest parts about it, 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.399 is finding the right balance because to your point, our 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.320 first year doing it, it's a wild card game. And 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.800 sure you can go and you can watch the normal broadcast, 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.120 but we knew that because it was so new, a 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:46.960 lot of people were going to be tuning in. Whether 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.880 you were an eight year old kid from Des Moines, Iowa, 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.040 or you were a fifty five year old fan who's 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.840 just intrigued from New York City. We just knew we 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:58.440 were going to get all different types of people, and 0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.520 so trying to invite the entire audience was seminal in 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.560 our minds. Now, the one thing, as you guys, spoke 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.200 about all these these pivotal moments in your careers and 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.600 those those proven moments and the first kind of big 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.960 breaks and maybe thrown into the fire, whether it was 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.880 a track and field or whether it was your first 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.040 play by play game. The one difference that I think 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:22.200 about with a lot of people today getting those first 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.520 moments is having this having the cell phone right next 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.880 to you all the time, and having social media, having 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.800 people constantly reaching out texting you in the middle of games. 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.040 And I think the best thing that Nate and I 0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.000 did year one was before the game, we looked at 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.120 each other and we said, Okay, put it away, just 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:41.920 just put it to the side. We don't want to 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.920 We don't want to be impacted by anything. We didn't 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.640 want any words that anyone was saying, anything was texted 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.160 to us. We just didn't want anybody to impact us. 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.120 We said, if anyone used to get a message to us, 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.480 Ken Mack, our producer, can get in our ear and 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.520 let us know. And I remember at halftime, I had 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:02.040 had we had five seven minutes maybe to go to 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:03.959 the bathroom, get something to drink. Is then we had 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.360 to do a filler segment and make sure we could 0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.640 bridge from the second quarter into the third quarter, and 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.640 a couple people came up to us. Because at the 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.720 time that was still heavily COVID, no real fans in 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.280 the building, A couple of thousand were there. So a 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.320 couple people came up to us and they said, have 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.360 you seen the reaction? You go, no, they go, I go, 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:27.080 is it good? They go, it's the most positive I've 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.240 ever seen. I goy, Okay, they go, just keep doing 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.000 whatever you're doing. 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:31.640 I was like, all right. 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.200 So I looked at my phone after It was the 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.160 most tweets, messages, et cetera that I had ever gotten. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.600 But it was a good lesson for me, and I've 0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.280 fod It's something I've passed along to a lot of 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.000 people who have asked of Sometimes it's better to just 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.680 shut it off and be completely present in that moment. 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.680 Just just stay with it, just be locked in as 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.800 much as you possibly can. And so doing those games 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:54.719 has taught me a lot of how to balance the 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.600 fun with the serious, how to get down to the 0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.640 nitty gritty when you have to, how to take care 0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.160 of the business that maybe network wants you to take 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.280 care of, or your producer wants you to take care of, 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.520 but at the same time not losing sight of that 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.480 kid in you. And I think I've taken a lot 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:13.880 of that to the not animated or different or adverse 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.920 broadcast that I've done just the normal stuff, let's say, 0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.280 whether it's a Clipper game or those NFL or college 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.480 games I've did. It's just making sure that I still 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.760 have fun with it, and so I think doing it 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.760 has been a good practice in a lot of ways. 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.880 How about you keep your phone turned up these days. 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.520 I mean, that's a thing I don't know if I 0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.720 don't know if if you do. But I mean, Tariko, 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.360 we have so many connected lines. There's so many different 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.280 people that we know and we're I mean, there's a 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.600 lot of texting going on in the announcer community. If 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.320 you have your phone open, if you're into that kind 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.280 of thing, and it's yeah, you can't let it destroy 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.360 your concentration. But it is amusing and breaks and sometimes 0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.480 somebody might actually give you good input, not in your performance, 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.240 but on something that's gone on in the field. So 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.560 other coaches will text you watching another game, you know, 0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.280 sometimes is valuable. But I get your point, but not 0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.880 want to be distracted do you guys critique each other. 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.040 I don't know if critique is the word. I think 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:12.240 it's more back and forth input. I'm not what word. 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.280 Would you use. That critique is a broad term. It 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:15.600 could mean a lot of things. 0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.840 Well, I would say critique is more negative connotation. Oh okay, 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.160 So I wouldn't call it like the great Santini where 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.520 I'm on top of Noah with every word that's coming 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.040 out of his mouth and do it. 0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.640 Again, Basketball off the forehead exactly. 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.960 Basketball off the forehead with Danny Noonan. Yeah, it's not 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.240 happening like that. I got to hear the touchdown again. 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.479 Man again, Hey man. 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.960 I talked to Andres Cantour, the Great Andres Contour, who 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.640 was a guest of the podcast and and his son 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.960 Nico works for CBS and for Paramoutlus doing soccer, and 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.840 he said, hey, there, critiques or comments, whatever you want 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.800 to call it, go both ways. The sun is not 0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.000 above saying in a dad, He's not going to criticize 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.040 as the goal call, but it might be. I don't 0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.200 know if you read the game, I don't know if 0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:04.760 you saw that you didn't you didn't pick up in 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.080 the Chaine of momentum and and and i'd risk would 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.800 accept it. I don't. I don't know if if you're accepting, 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.520 if that if Noah comes up with something. 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.320 I'm accepting, I'm very accepting. I would say our dynamic 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:21.240 is one of positivity, and then if there's something that 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.720 stands out to me, I'll mention it to him, but 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.920 not necessarily the day after the game. It might be 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.680 in a series of conversations we have a week later, 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:37.040 ten days later, and usually it will be in the 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:42.920 Oreo cookie realm, which would be positive, and then we'll 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:50.560 use the word critique positive. So chocolate cookie, vanilla filling, 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:52.400 chocolate cookie. 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.200 Is that how you see it? Noah? 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.200 It is I one of the best things that I 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.080 think he did for me growing up. And at the 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.160 time I hated it, and at the time my sister 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:07.400 hated it, and I think we both appreciate it as 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.960 we get into our adult lives. But when we were 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.680 speaking when we were kids, if we use the words 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:18.000 like or um in a sentence, it was what did 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.239 you just say? And we would repeat and said nope, 0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:25.799 start the sentence over, restart, and it was really just 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.759 to eliminate the words. Would you agree I can see that. 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.520 It's I fully support that, by the way, yes. 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.080 Oh no, no, I agree. But I'm just now realizing 0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.560 maybe I am more like Robert Duval than I thought 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:40.399 I was. There is a great Santini thing here going 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.319 which Noah has seen almost every film. I don't believe 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:45.040 he's ever seen that. 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.880 So that reference not yeah, that one's not in my 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.920 one over your head, but the Noon and I got 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.000 Danny Newton right well, he was in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:54.360 Ny to knock down my pott. 0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:59.680 But so what I what I would say about that 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:04.640 looking back on it, for myself is I took pride 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:10.520 in the fact that you guys were capable of interacting 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:14.040 with adults at a young age because I could, I 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.880 mean being around my parents. I was just placed in 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.440 situations where I was around adult a lot at a 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.919 very young age. And it wasn't the oh, the cute 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:25.960 kid in the corner. I could keep up. I could 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:30.279 have conversations. I was aware of sports and movies and 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:34.000 entertainment and music, so at a young age I could 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.359 hang And I know for you, looking back on it, 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.840 and for Aaron, it was important for you to be 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.520 able to carry yourself in a way and to be 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:48.120 taken seriously, because to me, credibility comes with how you 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.960 carry yourself in those moments. So I do think it 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.160 was important. Little did I know back then that it 0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.200 would rub off into the adult years where you do 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:03.399 care how you speak and avoiding these crutches that we have. 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.600 That was always really important that both you and Aaron, 0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:12.920 Noah's sister recognized that communication is the key to life. 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.640 You guys are competitive anyway, do you guys? Whether it's 0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.920 tennis or one v one. I mean, I will not 0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.800 know what that is like that the father's son competitive dynamic, 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.400 but it fascinates me. I mean, do you do you 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.920 guys go at it in any form of sport? 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:29.600 Yeah? 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.279 Interesting dynamic. I don't I don't think Noah and I 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.320 have ever been competitive in that way unless I'm misreading it. No, 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:41.560 and we did participate a lot. You suck, Yeah, Okay, Yeah, 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:47.560 he's right. I think we we saw ourselves as allies 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.400 more than competitor. Is that a fair assessment? 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.560 Do you think it is? It is? I think that 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.879 as I was getting into this more and more, and 0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.319 I think it goes even back further for when I 0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:00.200 was growing up like. 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.719 I didn't mean in broadcasting. I don't mean I'm talking 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.319 about a basketball cart. 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.160 I just we never we never had those battles in 0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.600 the driveway. I think he knew I would win, so 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:12.160 I just. 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.560 That might have been it. Yeah, that's probably what it 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:15.200 came down to. 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.280 But no, it was never. We never had those those 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.480 hardcore back and forth battles of any sort. It was. 0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.200 It was certainly uplifting on either side. And then definitely 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:31.040 as I got into this, he started giving me his thoughts. 0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.239 As he said, in a very positive way and a 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:36.479 very easy going way. But sometimes he would say things 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.160 that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.560 because it was and I think anybody can relate to this. 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.640 When you just have it in you innately, you just 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.919 can say it. So he would say all the time 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.960 when I'm trying to I would ask when I say, okay, 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:49.400 how do you how do you get the best command 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.800 of your voice? How do you get the best control 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.920 and big moments to cut through a big crowd if 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.359 there's a buzzer beater or a huge block or dunk 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:00.359 in a in a basketball game, or a touch down, 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:05.399 And he would say, you have to go above your 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:09.920 vocal course. You have to then go below your vocal core, 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.760 and I'm saying, what does that mean. I don't understand 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:14.760 what you're saying, because you have to go from the diaphragm, 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.200 go inside, and it's just feeling very technical and I 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.600 couldn't I couldn't quite grasp it until you do it. 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:24.120 And then once you actually get it, you go, oh, yes, 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.560 you know that. That's what he was talking about, that 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.239 feeling that you get. And so finally you just have 0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:30.840 to you have to get the reps. And sometimes I 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.239 think and he knows this better than anybody, and that's why, 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:35.600 for the most part, especially as I got to college 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:38.560 and into the professional world, he just let me do 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.120 it and let me figure it out. And then when 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.919 I asked and wanted some of those critiques, he would 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:45.759 give them and you have them ready, but he let 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.480 me figure it out because he knew that was the 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:48.200 best way to learn. 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.439 I need some pointers know it from you on play 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.239 I play because you are far more experienced than I am. 0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:01.360 And calling pickleball. Yes, for listeners who don't, no, televised 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:05.919 pickleball is a thing on Tennis channel. ESPN is televising 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.880 a pickleball slam. By the time this air is that 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.279 the match will have happened. But it's Andre Agassi, John McEnroe, 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:16.919 Andy Roddick and Michael Chang in a team events. Neither 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.640 of them have played pickleball before, and I'm announcing it 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.040 with Patrick McEnroe, another former colleague of yeers. I in, 0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:25.640 so what do I need to know? And don't board 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.400 the people, so be concise in twenty five to thirty seconds. 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.439 What is a key thing in doing play by play 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:32.120 on pickleball? 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:34.680 Yeah? I think that you you've got to get the 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.279 rules down. It took me a while. 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.720 Its are hard, there's sneaky hard, It's hard. 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:42.240 I agree, it's hard. As someone who never played before 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.520 I got started learning what a dink was, learning what 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.399 the kitchen line is, learning what an ernie is, all 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.120 the technical terms that when you're doing tennis you don't 0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.400 think about. Now, I will say, because you do so 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.880 much tennis, it will it's easier because you've got that 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.520 muscle that you work. But there are differences. The other 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:02.560 thing and the biggest thing, the best piece of advice 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:05.120 I can give you or anyone who does pick a ball, 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.719 don't drink too much water because the breaks, it's not 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.600 like tennis where you've got to change of ends that 0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.400 could last two minutes. And certainly when someone leaves the court, 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.600 and if it's Stefano Sitsipas, he could take eight to 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.920 ten minutes and you might have some time to go 0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.919 to the bathroom, get back to the boots in time. 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.560 The breaks and pick a ball are one minute. 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.640 One of these old guys, these guys are not young. 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:29.960 I bet there'll be some lengthy bathroom breaks here. 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.279 I know, one minute sixty seconds. 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.560 Are you honestly telling me that I did a five hour, 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:40.640 fifty three minute tennis match where the bathroom was down 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.719 the hall a rod laver arena. You know it's we 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.799 had to sprint down there and get back because at 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.200 any point in that joke, if it's an I'll match, 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.479 the crux could happen in the fifth set. So will 0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.040 I will not overhydrate, and I will I will lay 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:56.719 out a lot because all four player is going to 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.120 be micd and that's where the fun is going to be. 0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.920 It's one of those kind of things like like Ty 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.000 and Phil hopefully they're betting against each other and miked up, 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.480 so's it's not not that serious a game. 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.560 But thank you, that'll be good. It's gonna be a 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.040 lot of fun. I'm excited to tune in because I 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.839 keep seeing seeing the promos for it, and all four 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.560 of those guys obviously have great personalities to work with 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.200 the game, so it'll be it'll be a good one 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:17.000 for you. 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.879 I know you've done tennis spectacularly well over the years. 0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:24.080 I think CBS early years, US Open, Yeah, obviously Roland 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.760 Garris for Tennis Channel. I mean those are two amazing events, 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:31.000 very distinct. But speaking of curveballs, as you know, when 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.920 you do this sport, you might get assigned to, you know, 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.160 a Djokovic for a Serena match, and then that goes 0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.520 very quickly lopsided. And now all of a sudden you're 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:44.759 digging through your notes because Beshila's Velli and Barancas are 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.480 playing in a fifth set and on the court fifteen 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.480 and you need to go out there and they've been 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.480 playing four hours. You haven't seen a point of it. 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.640 You're trying to figure out how to get people up 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.359 to speed. Let's see, it's Lithuania, what's going on. He's 0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:01.040 twenty nine, but no other sport that I couldn't think 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:04.040 of it. Kind of puts you in that situation, not 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.520 rarely but routinely. 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.560 Yeah, Chris, the one story that comes to mind for me. 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.520 It might have been my first year for CBS doing 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.920 the US Open, and basically we were assigned to the 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:21.600 outer courts. It was grandstand and then if something popped 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:25.080 up on an outer court. Rarely did this make air, 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:29.919 but Bob Monsbach, the producer at CBS, wanted to make 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:35.360 sure he was covered the Moonzie sends me and Pam 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:39.239 out to grandstand and I'm telling you, like, this is 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:45.000 pre smartphone. I may have literally brought a book because 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:49.759 I knew we were not touching it. And I'm out 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.359 there at grandstand and Pam's next to me and I 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.319 can hear through my headset. I'm not even sure our 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.520 stage manager was on headset because nobody expected that we 0:42:58.520 --> 0:42:59.759 were going to be on And I can hear through 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:06.200 my headset Manzie's nasal voice, iron iron, Where's that coming from? 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:08.520 And I put the headset. I'm like, yeah, he goes, 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.400 we're coming to you. I go, there's no match in 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.880 front of us. There's no match at Grants And I go, okay, 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:18.200 what match quarter to eleven, and I'm now trying to 0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.400 find on the screen. You have the one screen that 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:25.160 has every match, and I'm looking. I go, oh my goodness, 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:31.600 holy shit, it's anna check for Todsay and Elena Bovina. 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.080 And I said, well, how long? He goes forty seconds? 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:41.640 Forty second? What are you high? So Pam is like 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:46.000 not even in the boots. She's chatting with someone downstairs 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:48.000 and like, y, Pam. He's like, why I go, they're 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:51.520 coming to us. She's like what. She comes upstore fifteen 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.040 seconds she goes, what match? I go, it's a check 0:43:54.120 --> 0:44:01.200 for Todsay Bovina And now it's four three to one 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:06.600 go and boom it pops on and he says, identify 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.480 them please. I'm like, I don't know which is which. 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.440 I don't know the difference between the two and that 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.239 moment and I turned to Pam, I go, do you 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:22.200 I don't know, So I just wait to see where 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.960 the marker is for the server and it's check for 0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:29.759 Toadze and I just welcome everyone, and I checked for 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.760 Todsy serving bottom of your screen. 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.160 How dull was the rest of the tournament they would 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.120 actually go to that match? What kind of historically awful 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:40.640 moment was that in US Open history. 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.520 I think what happened is the matches went very quickly, 0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.480 and then we had a bit of a chasm between 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:52.440 feature matches and Dick Enberg and Bill McAtee. I don't know. 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.440 I don't know what was going on. I just know 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:59.080 that that aired, and then I had another match with Robbie, 0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:03.719 Jeanepri and David Nalbandian. That was last minute. It was 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.759 rain that week at US Open. So I'm just by 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.840 myself and Monzie again in my headset, and he says 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:18.400 I'm sending over McEnroe. I go, great, which one here? John, John? 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:24.840 Now we're twenty seconds from here, and I hit the 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.600 talk like, go hey, just let you know Monty he's 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:30.080 not here. He'll be there. And with like seconds for 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.239 many he comes in like the Tasmanian devil. He's got 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.759 a Knick's hat on to the side, he's got a 0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.279 white shirt with a black tie, but it's undone and 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.040 he comes in. They're like ten second. I go, hey, 0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.080 j I had not met John other than ball boying 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:47.040 for him. I had not met him. Chris, I know 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.680 this is shocking. John did not attend the production meetings. 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.800 No he does. Now I can report that he's now. 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.080 Back then, back then, no production meetings. So I stick 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:57.960 up my end. I go hey, John, I an eagerly goes, yeah, 0:45:57.960 --> 0:45:59.680 I know who you are. I go, oh, all right, great, 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.520 four three two one away we go for Jeneffery and 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:09.560 Melt Bondian and within the first five minutes Chris he 0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:16.560 mentions the new Jersey nets, Bob monsmack Hits talkback. Nobody 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:24.080 cares like this, And it was awesome, completely and it 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.080 was a great experience. But yes, you're right. Tennis, you 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:31.200 get thrown and Noah can absolutely relate to it. Having 0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.839 done Roland Garros and a bunch of events, you get 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.560 thrown into some interesting situations. In tennis. 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.040 You had a rolling Garos story you'd wear. It was 0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:42.400 hard to identify the players. 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.200 Roland Garros was tough because the year I went was 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:50.440 twenty twenty when it was bare. But my favorite thrown 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.040 into the moment story was I did a lot of 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:56.879 the return to tour action during COVID, so I came 0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:01.160 back to la in June of twenty twenty and Novak 0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:03.680 Djokovic was putting on his I think it was called 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.640 the Adria or Aria Tour, whatever it was. You probably remember, Chris, 0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:08.879 and that did not go all that great. 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:10.200 No, it didn't go out, but that. 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.080 They still had other events they were doing. I know 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.480 Isner and a couple of Americans put on a grass 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.440 event back in the US and they were grabbing their 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.560 own ball, no ball boys or girls. Chris Ubanks had 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.319 a big win in it, now at a top one 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.680 hundred player, but at the time he's going to grab 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:27.680 and all that. So they're leaving balls on the court 0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:29.560 and I'm doing all of it with Paul Anacone. And 0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.040 one day we were there thirteen hours straight because the 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.480 matches take so much longer when you don't have someone 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.200 picking up their own loose balls at the net. So 0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:43.000 we're already pretty fried. And then we get I can't remember, 0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:45.279 I think we had Ian Dunn producing that day and 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.279 he gets an our ear goes, okay, we're going to Serbia. 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.719 I'm like, huh, you know, Janko Tipsarevich is putting on 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:54.160 more of a charity type of event. It's at a 0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:58.200 park and we're going to the world number three, nine 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:05.960 hundred and seventy seven Spectaglia go and there's no info 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.239 on him. There's no ATP page on him. I look 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.239 to see if there's an Instagram page. He has one 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:14.000 post from twenty seventeen. He looked ironically and this is 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.600 not even a shock. You could look him up. He 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.160 did look like Danny Newton. And so the amount of 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:22.200 Aaddy Shack references made that was what was that? 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.480 Was that the super spread or invitational that they had 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:24.799 over there? 0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:26.520 Was that that was? That was not that one. 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:28.479 It was Oh, that was not that one. Okay, go ahead, 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.760 that's sure. So it's happened. 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.279 First we did that one, Lindsay Davenport and I did that, 0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.239 and in the couple weeks after Uncle Tip Sarvig said 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.839 we're gonna try again. And so that one was at 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.400 a park that kept panning to people doing power walks 0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.120 around a track. Was definitely. 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.360 It's funny you don't control the cameras, which you rarely do. 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.600 Intendis is always some world feed guy that's got his 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.239 own agenda. The Rolling Garris directors loved to shoot the 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.799 match through the glass of reflection in the sunglass. If 0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.239 it matches just a little bit less similating than they 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:58.960 hoped for, You never know what you're gonna get on 0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.399 the screen and that that's all the fun. 0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:05.040 They're true artists, Chris, the the European World Feed directors, 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:10.080 They're they're doing something that that we can't even understand. 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:10.879 They're doing it at a. 0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.000 Level trufau spin on the match, which is, you know. 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:19.480 Completely completely, it's like a Fellini film and it's it's on, 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:24.600 it's on, you know, uh uh as Suzanne Longlan and 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:27.000 they're going, you're right, they're going to try to get 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.279 a shot from the other side. But if they can 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:36.040 do it through the reflection through the tennis canister around 0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:37.120 and then an. 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:41.200 Umbrella flowers, Yeah, I said, just shoot through the flower 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.160 bed and it's insane. 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.000 Yeah. I. I really enjoyed the French Open and Chris, 0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:48.560 you and I were there at the same time when 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:53.400 Tennis Channel and ESPN crossed over for a stretch, and 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:56.680 then we also shared a green room. The facilities were 0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.000 such early on, if you remember, Chris, there just wasn't 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.919 no room. So we would literally get the crossover where 0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:06.640 there would be five guys from ESPN, five from Tennis 0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:07.640 chown and we're just sitting there. 0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.000 Announcers try to get along pretty well. Management I'm not 0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:11.480 so sure. But the announcers. 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:14.640 Announcers was not a problem management. You're right, that might 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:15.640 have been a bit of an issue. 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.279 But you guys, you guys called the same basketball game, 0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.360 right if it was was it a Syracuse Miami game 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:22.680 for CBS. 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.120 That was the first one. That was the first one that. 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.479 Was the NBA. It happens. But I mean, yeah, even 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.680 back then, I mean, how many was cool? How many 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.400 times have you have you simultaneously called the same game? No, 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.000 it would have been it would be a few times 0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:37.040 now in the NBA, I guess right. 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:39.160 Plus yeah, we've had a few in the NBA. The 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:43.040 college game was noteworthy because Noah was only a junior 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:47.279 in college and he basically asked the sports director, Hey, 0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:48.759 I know you were trying to get me a game, 0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:50.680 just so you know, putting. 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:51.040 On your radar. 0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.680 My dad's doing a game down in Miami, so if 0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:56.680 that one's open, And he ended up doing the game. 0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:00.160 So a Lisa was there and her parents, Gene and 0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.400 Sue were there. It became a bit of a family 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.360 affair in raf. I was doing the game with Raf 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.680 who had known Noah literally since birth. I mean, he 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.000 wasn't in the room with Alisa when it happened, but 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.160 he does know or know him from a very young 0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:14.040 I don't know. 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.480 Good to see a kid, yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah. 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.920 I mean look anything with Raf, like Noah is a kid, 0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:26.239 as we know with Raff. But I've I've tried to 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.880 explain this. Everybody's a kid in Bill Raftery's life. No 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.759 matter who I mentioned, I'll say, like, oh hey, Bill, 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.440 I saw Jerry West. He sends its bestally, what a 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:37.200 nice kid? 0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:41.720 What numbers? 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:43.000 The math doesn't work there. 0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:45.719 But when you get to work with guys who were 0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:49.520 older generations and you admired and you were young, it's 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:51.880 it's special. I mean, I'm sure you'll have that opportunity 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:54.759 quite a lot now. But you know, Jim McKay was 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.759 a guy who was an early idol of mind when 0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.680 he hosted the Olympics the seventy ten year Games. His 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.560 handling of an awful situation with the Israeli athletes with 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.600 such humanity and grace and dignity, I was mesmerized. I 0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.360 was about nine or ten years old, and I thought, 0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:11.440 that's what I want to do. I want to try 0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.160 to have that sense of storytelling and that humanity. So 0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.839 to work with him near the end of his arc 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.600 on the Triple Crown Races was an enormous thrill. I'm 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:22.440 not comparing that to Raftery, but you knew him obviously, 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:25.520 You're a college kid when he's already a big figure 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.520 in broadcasting. Now you guys will be on the call 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:30.840 reunited for the final Fource. How cool is that? 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:35.880 Yeah? And I think Chris as you know, when you 0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:39.239 have a real friendship with someone, it translates on the air. 0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.160 It doesn't mean it has to be that way. You 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:45.080 can have very good chemistry and not necessarily be close 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:50.640 friends or socially connected. I've had it every which way, 0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.800 and I've had about I shouldn't say about I recently 0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.239 counted because I added Jay Wright to the list. I've 0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:01.799 had one hundred and forty six different part within broadcasting. 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:06.200 And if I broke down number of games that I've 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:10.680 done with one individual, Raf might be number one. It's 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.120 either Raff or Spinarkle because it's going to be based 0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:16.600 on volume and basketball, and both of them I've just 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.040 done a ton of games with. So I've done hundreds 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.840 of games with Bill. But there's a friendship there that 0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:27.680 goes well beyond our broadcasting relationship, and it's all very 0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:32.319 real and organic and you can bust chops because you 0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:36.000 know at the end of it, it's all fun. And yes, 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:38.960 Noah got a chance to work a game with Bill 0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:42.960 for Fox. Did a Big East game. Who was it 0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:44.480 Saint John's or Seaton Hall? 0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.440 Who was Hall? And fdu ah? 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:51.560 Oh yeah, so just to see that come Ba's cool. 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:52.200 Didn't know. 0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.279 Didn't you work with Dan Fouts who was also I 0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:55.560 worked with Dan Fouts years ago? 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:55.759 Right? 0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:58.480 Didn't you do a was it a preseason game with 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.640 Dan Faust? How cool to have that connection? 0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.000 Yeah, incredible. We did all three of the charge with 0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:06.840 preseason games, which which hopefully will continue doing for several 0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:10.680 years moving forward. But that both of those just because 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:14.319 again they saw me. I'm not saying that I'm a 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:16.520 great R and B singer, but they saw me boy 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.480 to men or man and so with them, I think 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:25.040 it was this step back, weird, crazy moment of they 0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:29.080 saw younger version of my dad, especially for Raf who 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:32.160 works who began working with them at my age, and 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.000 so I think I posted on Instagram, but the photo 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.760 of the two of them when my dad is my age, 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.759 and then the photo of the two of us at 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:43.000 my age, it's freaky, it's freaky stuff. But for me, 0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.799 there's nothing cooler than that. And again, for all the 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.480 reasons he said about rap especially, and all the true, 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:52.600 all the same is true for Dan. The friendship, the 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:56.440 ability to bust on each other and to say whatever 0:54:56.520 --> 0:54:59.399 and joke and back and forth. That that's what makes 0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.279 it experspect because you know, at the end of the 0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.000 day there is that level of, oh, yeah, we're in 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.400 this together and we enjoy each other's company, and so 0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:08.200 trade all of that for the world. 0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.480 A second on risk canto reference because he's from Argentina, 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:14.680 he called the World Cup final one of the greatest, 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.839 if not the greatest ever played archers Uni beats France 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:20.560 and penalties. His son Nico was also working radio for 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.320 the same match and they had an incredible embrace afterwards. 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.439 In a World Cup is as powerful as it gets, 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.879 to my opinion, and to have that father son moment. 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:32.919 So I'm asking you, guys, is there the possibility of 0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:38.719 some form of that If Syracuse were to cut down 0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:42.920 the nets next year in Vegas and you're both somehow 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:47.520 involved in that, would there be a powerful emotionally experience. 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.640 I mean, it's been twenty years since Syracuse won a championship. 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:52.160 I think about twenty years, So I'm not saying that's likely, 0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:54.239 But is there anything like that that could happen where 0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:57.840 you'd father's son and broadcaster colleague that it kind of 0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.320 all comes together in one big, sloppy hut at the 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:01.200 end of some result. 0:56:02.000 --> 0:56:07.640 Yeah. Now, first of all, Syracuse winning a championship, that's 0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.120 that's a tall order right now. They've got some work 0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.960 to do. Red Autry's in there, he's in the lab. 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:17.160 I see good things developing, but that that might be 0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.040 a bit of a leap to presume that twenty twenty four. 0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:23.560 The other thing, I erroneously reported that it's going to 0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.000 be in Vegas next year, So that's maybe where you got. 0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:29.600 It's actually in Glendale, Arizona next Okay, it will be 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.359 in Vegas, but not the Super Bowls in Vegas. I 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:33.360 somehow crosswires. 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:35.520 That did come from my research, So damn no, it's 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:35.799 not you. 0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:41.759 It's all on me. And I could absolutely see the 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:48.120 embrace that we're like good, strong huggers. We have that bond. 0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:54.359 The broadcast side of it, I don't know. I don't don't. 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:55.920 I don't know how that's gonna. 0:56:55.680 --> 0:57:00.000 Be Net's Clippers. That's also unlikely. But like Net's Clippers 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:05.400 NBA final Game seven overtime, somebody's crushed. 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.000 Yeah, I don't know. I feel like we've got more 0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:10.839 of the breakfast club fist bump at the end. That's 0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:14.560 that's really yeah. Yeah, I don't know. 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.280 But how deeply sad, No, how deeply sad it is 0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:19.000 constrained to that? 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.800 I mean that. Listen, Chris. The first article written about 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:24.520 me when I got the Clipper job was he's twenty 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.400 two going on fifty two. I think that's that's where 0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:27.920 the problem. 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:31.800 Why did it offend you? 0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:34.520 I mean, oh no, Actually I took it as a compliment, 0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:35.400 which it was. Context. 0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:39.160 Hey, I was working at ESPN and I was mistaken 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.920 for a high school kid. We were covering high school 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:43.280 kids on the show I did, and I was asked 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.200 for a hall pass, to the humongous amusement of my 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.880 crew because I was dressed like this and in a 0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:50.880 T shirt. And they did not believe me that I 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:53.400 was a college graduate in the professional world. They thought 0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:55.520 it was a high school kids. I know what it's 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:58.840 like to be treated. 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.960 I had the same. I had the same exact thing 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:05.400 with the nets. They went practiced in a high school 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:10.760 gym my first year in Washington, and we had to 0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.160 go because we're flying out to Phoenix after the game. 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:15.400 So we get off the bus. We now walk through 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.600 high school hallways and I'm the last guy off the bus. 0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.640 They walk into the gym. Literally everybody in the high 0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:25.640 school is lining the hallways to watch Benoit, Benjamin, Derek Coleman, 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:31.280 Kenny Anderson, Dwayne Schintz, is Rick Mohorn, Chris Childs, Kevin Edwards, 0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:34.320 on and on and on and on. Yinka dar Jason Williams. 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.960 Walked through the school and I'm the last guy, and 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.960 the security guard goes, nowhere, where are you going? I said, no, no, no, 0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:43.560 I'm with the team. He goes, get back to class. 0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:48.440 Come on. So we tell the trainer, Ted Arzonica. I 0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.600 go Ted Ted, and he ted was a funny dude. 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:53.640 He comes over. He goes, yeah, how can I help you? 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:56.680 The security goes, this guy says, he does your radio goes, now, 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:58.840 I've never seen him in my life. Just get out 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:02.040 of here and get the algebra. Uh it happens. 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:06.480 That tops my story. That's awesome. Uh, it's been a 0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:08.080 lot of fun. I mean, preparing for this was a 0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:09.760 lot of fun. Doing this was it was a whole 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.680 lot of fun. I'll share this. Jennifer is a co 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:18.720 executive producer, and yesterday she said, listen, I think we 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:22.640 need we need to listen to the Eagles. Now behind me, 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:26.840 we have a kick ass, high end vinyl collection and 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:32.640 a badass two bamp turntable set up. So I think, okay, 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:36.280 we're gonna go Desperado Hotel, California, tod we go the 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:39.920 long run now now now now? No, no, and I in, 0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.520 I shouldn't have. She didn't say it that way. I'm sorry. 0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:45.560 She did not say it that way, but she said 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:49.320 it stridently, and I was thinking, you know, Don and Glenn, No, 0:59:49.440 --> 0:59:51.480 it was no. So we have listened to you guys 0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.080 for for the week. So thank you for coming into 0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:57.840 our homes day yesterday and and joining us, joining us 0:59:57.840 --> 0:59:58.320 here today. 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:02.080 One last one last just to tag that Chris uh. 1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.680 When Noah song, by the way, I meant to I 1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:08.200 meant to segue to a music question because yeah, well. 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:13.200 It connects to this point when Noah was wrapping up 1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.640 college and I was going to move to l A. 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:22.200 Alisa and I flew to LA to look for an 1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:23.800 apartment for him. I think you were doing we were 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.560 work in summer league, maybe in Vegas. 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:27.440 So I was at summer league and then I was 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:29.240 going to meet you guys, and we're all going to 1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:30.400 start looking at a few. 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.680 Yeah. So Alisa and I get on the plane. We're 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:39.840 flying Newark to LA and we're going about our business 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:43.000 and now we're on dissent and the woman next to us, 1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:47.920 who looked familiar but I didn't say anything about it, 1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.520 we make eye contact and she says Ian. I said, yeah, 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:57.880 said I'm Adrian woj Niowski's wife. Oh my gosh, yes, yes, 1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:02.440 we've met, missus woj woj Bomb. So we're chatting and 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.160 she says, I happen to tell you something, and I 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:07.360 think you're going to find it humorous. I said, yeah, please. 1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:12.240 She said, I texted Adrian during the flight. You're not 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:15.280 going to believe who I'm sitting next to. And he 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:20.480 wrote back who, and she wrote back the Eagles, And 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:23.120 then there was a long pause and Wog writes back, 1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:27.000 oh my god, that's unbelievable, and she's like, I mean, 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:30.600 it's not that unbelievable. Okay, So some time goes by 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:34.920 and then he writes, what are they doing? Why are 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.560 there on that flight? And she said, I don't know. 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:40.280 I think they're just going to LA. And then he 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:45.440 writes are they touring together? And she's like, I mean 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:52.120 they're married. I think they're touring together. Obviously he thought 1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:56.960 that she was sitting next to Don Henley and she was. 1:01:57.200 --> 1:01:59.200 The thing is Woge came up to me and then 1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:02.040 tells me this worry from his perspective. He goes, I'm 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:05.760 sitting here, I go, why would they be flying commercially. 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:07.880 United flight? 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:09.600 Right now, that's his first. 1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:11.960 Thought, you know, banded dynamics, So wait, have been on 1:02:12.040 --> 1:02:15.960 separate private planes? I think actually at that point, good point. 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:17.240 Sure, it's hard. 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.880 It's hard to follow our top that story, so well 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:22.520 we'll leave it there. Guys, thanks again, and I continue 1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:26.080 to be just incredibly impressed by everything you've done for decades. No, 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:29.480 I could not be more impressed by by He was 1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:33.120 a young broadcaster and a person, So decades decades of 1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:35.640 utual success to you and and you guys have been 1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:38.360 you guys have been great fun Chris. 1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:41.400 Feelings, mutual great, great being with you and thanks for 1:02:41.480 --> 1:02:45.320 allowing me to see my son. That was the highlight. 1:02:46.440 --> 1:02:49.640 Chris. I appreciate you, appreciate you having us on. I'm 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:52.440 looking forward to catching as much of your calls as 1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:55.320 I possibly can this year. Very much enjoyed following along 1:02:55.400 --> 1:02:58.120 for the last several years, and I'm just glad to 1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:00.400 know that my dad cared about my birth. When it's 1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:00.960 all said and. 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:05.080 Done, Yeah I did. I cared enough to bathe That 1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:05.480 was good. 1:03:05.800 --> 1:03:14.880 One could be fresh, fresh. 1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:15.640 And ending on a laugh just seems completely appropriate. That 1:03:15.760 --> 1:03:17.880 was a lot of fun for me. You can't maybe 1:03:17.920 --> 1:03:23.520 fully appreciate listening the facial expressions that reflect the mutual 1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:27.920 pride and joy I in space when Noah's talking telling 1:03:27.960 --> 1:03:30.880 a story, and Noah's face when his dad is relating 1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:34.240 his career. I plan to post some video clips on 1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:36.240 the website and on YouTube, and I think you'll also 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:38.400 enjoy that and be able to fully appreciate how loving 1:03:38.440 --> 1:03:42.000 and support of this father son relationship is. If you 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:45.840 enjoy broadcasting stories and behind the scenes stuff from TV, 1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:49.080 I invite you to check out a list of archived 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:51.280 episodes that we're really proud of. A lot of my 1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:54.080 colleagues have joined me to tell their tales right back 1:03:54.080 --> 1:03:58.720 from episode one, Willie Geist, Maria Taylor, Rich Eisen, Jeremy Shapp, 1:03:59.400 --> 1:04:02.960 but also Mike Terrico and Kirk kurb Street, Dick Vital, 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:08.440 Charles Barkley, stephen A. Smith, Doris Burke, Holly Rowe, Andre's cantor, 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:12.120 Jay Billis check him out. There's a lot of great 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:15.480 stuff in there, as always, thanks to my co executive 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:18.640 producer Jennifer Dempster and to the folks at Octagon. I'll 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:21.160 talk to you soon with more of season six of Fowler. 1:04:21.200 --> 1:04:21.760 Who You Got