1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Ruby. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast are 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: solely those of the individuals involved and do not represent 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: those of into It QuickBooks or any of its cornerstone 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: brands or employees. This podcast does not constitute financial, legal, 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: or other professional advice or services. 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I'm Jinny's Torrez. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: And I'm Austin Hankwitz Autin. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: This has been such a fun season. It's been an 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: incredible ride. But unfortunately, like all the things, they must 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: come to an end. 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Or maybe a Paul, don't tell me that this is 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: the season finale. I know, I'll tell you what. I 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: had so much fun with that nice Tampa weather. It's 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: cold here in Nashville, it really is. 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: I had so much fun with you discovering new local 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: spots to visit and support, and talking to these incredible 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: small business owners. What was your favorite part about this season? 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: To be honest, I think it was talking with the 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: people like Jeries from episode one, for example, who saw 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: a problem in an existing business and said, I know 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: how to solve this problem. I have the confidence in 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: myself and so they went out on their own. Or 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: another example with Kenzie West, the owner of True Form Fitness. 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: She had this awesome opportunity to buy a business and 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: she went for it. I just I get so inspired 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: by that because as a small business owner and Janis, 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm not a veteran like you, so I still kind 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: of have my insecurities about running a business. But just 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: knowing that people have these brick and mortar locations and 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: people are able to hire all these employees, there's so 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: many cool things. I just get so inspired. I'm so 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: fired up about all the amazing people we've spoken with 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: and being able to hear their stories of going from 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: idea to business execution to real success and scalability. I 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: cannot wait to go back and listen to every single 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: episode of this season again and again. 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely. First off, I was in Nashville for the first 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: time thanks to this incredible season, and I got to 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: really be inspired by just all these amazing business owners 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: who when you look at it from the outside, it's 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: almost like, are you really building a whole business around 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: French fries? When we think about the bag Ladies Fry Joint, 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: the fact that Brandon and James Lyttleton's Grandma's French fries 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: were the inspiration and now they've got a thriving business 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: they're talking about potentially like franchising. It's so important for 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: us to remind ourselves that it doesn't have to be 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: this big, audacious idea like you can literally build an 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: incredible business with something as simple as fries. 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, there's nothing simple about those fries. 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so good. But getting back to business today, 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: we're going to delve it a little bit deeper to 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: talk specifically about how to push past stagnation. 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: This is such an important topic because we all want 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: our businesses to be steady, right. Stability is the name 63 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: of the game. But you don't want to be stuck 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: in a rut. You're going to want to make sure 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: that you can expand your business and grow where you 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: can and also push past the plateaus that you may hit. 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: And there are all sorts of ways to do that, 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: one of which is with into It quick Books. It's 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: a full end to end platform that helps you shatter 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: any stagnation and keep your business growing. From managing payroll 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: and access to live experts to time tracking and data reports. 72 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: It's a great way to not only help you look 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: at the big picture, but also provide the systems to 74 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: keep it all in check. 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Avoiding stagnation is key. I cannot agree more In my experience, 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: what I've been able to do is introduce these new 77 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: digital properties right to introduce the Rich Habits podcast, the 78 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: Rich Habits newsletters stemmed out of that as well that 79 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: we introduced another private community. So it's like always being 80 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: able to then figure out, what are we doing really 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: well right now? How do we double down on what's working, 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: And if we have an idea or get inspired for 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: introducing something else, how do we take that idea and 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: turn it into something that can be successful as well. 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I love taking a look back every year at 86 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: my business and seeing what income streams worked, which ones 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: felt like things that I'm really excited to continue to 88 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: grow and maybe which ones felt like more work than 89 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: they were worth, you know. And so I think that's 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: one of the ways that you can avoid stagnation in 91 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: your business is not just continuing to do the same thing, 92 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: but really using data to make some great decisions that 93 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: will propel you forward for years to come. Now, let's 94 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: introduce our guests. Camille Alson is the owner of n 95 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: B Goods, a gender neutral clothing company in Nashville, Tennessee. 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: Camille started her career in the music industry as a manager, 97 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: and after her apartment in New Jersey flooded during Hurricane Irene, 98 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Camille decided to move to Nashville. Without a safety net 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: or a job. 100 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: Lined up, Camille wanted to break into the music industry 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: as a manager. Her first artist was Brett Eldridge. She 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: worked for his manager and took on managing his day 103 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: to day and his tour schedule. After experiencing family tragedy 104 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: and a global pandemic, she left the music industry and 105 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: worked part time at a bakery in East Nashville. It 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: was there when she was struck by inspiration for a 107 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: business idea when she noticed one of the storefronts available 108 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: to lease Camille, thanks so much for joining us on 109 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: the show. 110 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to be here. 111 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: We're so excited to be here too. Let's hop right 112 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: into it. Tell us the origin story of the business. 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: What made you want to start doing this. 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: I think I always had like a very particular sense 115 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 4: of style, you know, growing up. I guess at the 116 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: time they called it, you know, tomboy. Now they call 117 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: it gender neutral. I've always just liked what I like, 118 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: and that was very particular about like blanks and fits 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: and things like that. I never thought it would be 120 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: a part of my life in this way, but when 121 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: I left my normal job, I started kind of messing 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: around with apparel and accessories and things like that. And 123 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: if you want the truth, I really have no idea 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 4: how we ended up where we are right now, but 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: it's going pretty good, so I'll take it. 126 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty typically Aneurin. 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of just happens by acting yes, yes, yes, 128 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: it happened, you know, relatively quickly. You know, we've only 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 4: been in business for about four years and so things 130 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: that just moved really fast. 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: But that's where it all started. 132 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: So we're sitting in this awesome storefront I'm seeing n 133 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: B Goods written all over the place. What is n 134 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: B Goods the name orre did it come from? Walk 135 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: me through the whole story. 136 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. 137 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: You know, this is probably like one of the most 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: asked questions about the shop. And sometimes I like to 139 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 4: keep a little mystery around it, just because it's nothing significant. 140 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: So the absolute genesis of the business was I bought 141 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: home embroidery machine and just started customizing things like for 142 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: friends and for our dogs and like those kind of things. 143 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: And we live in the Neely's Bend area of Nashville, 144 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: so it was n B Goods, and I think at 145 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: some level we thought, like, oh, maybe this neighborhood will 146 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: be up and coming and it'll like E is tier 147 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: and we're just a long way away from that, and 148 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: so it just kind of stuck and it sounds right, 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: And sometimes people don't even think about it, and sometimes 150 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: people have their own guesses of what they think it is. 151 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: Like sometimes people think it's not bad goods, very good guys. 152 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is the truth. You know, they are 153 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 4: not bad goods. So it's taken on a little bit 154 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: of a life of its own. 155 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: And I think the name goods right having the name 156 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: does you guys are a great favorite here because you 157 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: have so many different things. There's a dog bed over here, 158 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying, a bunch of hats, some cool jackets, some socks. 159 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Behind you walk me through sort of the categories of 160 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: inventory that you all have here in the shop and online. 161 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: Honestly, the business just started to become an extension of 162 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: my personality. I literally wear a hat every day, so 163 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: we still hats. I wear a lot of vintage and 164 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: upcycled things, so we're able to carry those things. I 165 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: have five dogs, so we started carrying dog beds. I think, 166 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: really I want people to connect with me as a 167 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: real person, as a small business owner. I'm not trying 168 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: to be like an influencer or anything like that. I'm 169 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: a real person and if you like my style, you 170 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: like how I live my life. 171 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: These are the things that are like naturally a part 172 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: of that. 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: All right, So what was that first moment for you 174 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: when you realize, damn, I'm a good entrepreneur. 175 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: God, I don't know. I don't even know if I've 176 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: had that moment. 177 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: To be honest, I'm still you know, I still second 178 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: guess myself every day. 179 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: You know, this was never part of the plan. This 180 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: was never my goal. 181 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: When I started to be able to hire someone to 182 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: work at the store so I could focus on the 183 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: other projects was kind of the first time. It was like, oh, 184 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: and then I had to figure out payroll and realizing 185 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: that I needed a different employer ID for that, and 186 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: those kind of things start to feel like a real business. 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: When you were thinking about how to start adding processes 188 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: to your business to make that more efficient. What role 189 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: does into it quick Books play into being able to 190 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: run your business now that you are thinking about things 191 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: like payroll and whatnot. 192 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, into it quick Books was actually one of the 193 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: first things that I was able to start letting go 194 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: of some responsibility. That was one of the first places 195 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: I went. I am okay at bookkeeping and accounting and 196 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: those kind of things, but I really wanted to make 197 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: sure that I had everything in line, and so that 198 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: was one of the first things I did. And then subsequently, 199 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: as soon as I could afford it, hire professional services 200 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,239 Speaker 4: and they still utilize my into it QuickBooks. 201 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: That's how we maintain and keep an eye on everything. 202 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: Fantastic how as hiring employees and just more people to 203 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: work on this business alongside of you helped you scale. 204 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: Hiring people. It is the key to scaling this business. 205 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 4: As I talked about, a lot of it is about 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: my identity and I think trying to figure out ways 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: where I can keep my touch on the business but 208 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: allowing other folks to come in and help. A big 209 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: part of it is really finding people that have a 210 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: similar mindset and mentality. The people that we have working 211 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: right now, there's just kind of an unspoken thing that 212 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: they understand what we're trying to do as a business 213 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: and they want to bring the customer service and the quality. 214 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: I can teach anyone how to package up a shipment, 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: but it's more about, oh, how did you fold it, 216 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: and so when people open the box, it looks good, 217 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: it feels good, They're excited to open it, you know, 218 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: those little things. And allowing people to do that and 219 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: bring their ideas to the table. I think that was 220 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: one of the things I struggled with in the beginning 221 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: so much. I just felt like when I would get 222 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 4: in my own head, I didn't have a resource. When 223 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: people have a partner in their business, you kind of 224 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: have someone to bounce ideas off of. And I was 225 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 4: always jealous of my friends that had other partners in 226 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: their businesses because I felt like it was just me 227 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: and the minute I was able to bring other people 228 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: in and get other ideas, it just really helped expand 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: you know what we're doing. 230 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: I want to linger on that for a little bit longer, 231 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: this idea of expansion. Walk me through the differences of 232 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: where your business is today versus where it was in 233 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: the beginning. Talk to me about the revenue expansion and 234 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: different number of SKUs. Now you might have maybe numbers 235 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: of employees, website traffic. Has your website changed it all? 236 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we started out very bare bones. I never saw 237 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: this being like a big e comm business. I thought 238 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: maybe it would be like more of a maker kind 239 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: of Nashville thing. So we've had a huge shift over 240 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: the last four years. When we started, we were on 241 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: one platform that was better for in person sales, and 242 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: then about two years in I realized that we really 243 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: needed a stronger e commerce presence, and so we switched platforms, 244 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: which allowed us to expand in that mindset, and then 245 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: we just started really expanding what the business actually was. 246 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: It went from being just a store and an apparel 247 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: brand to being someone that could fulfill and create things 248 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 4: for other businesses. We started out doing like small commissions. 249 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: We made a hoodie for Nate Bargatzi to were on SNL. 250 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: We made some touring jackets for an artist that he 251 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: was wearing it every night of his tour and like 252 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: then giving it to someone in the crowd. 253 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: So we started with these small commissions and then. 254 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: People said, well can you bring that to all of 255 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: our merchandise or other small businesses in town who were like, man, 256 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: I just I need to get some hats made and 257 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: I cannot find someone to do it. And so that 258 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: on its own has started to develop into one of 259 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: our main revenue streams. 260 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about stagnation, right, That's one of the 261 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: risks that you run as a business owner. It's like, 262 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: how do you break out of that plateau. I'm curious 263 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: if you ever had a situation where you were able 264 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: to reach an expansion or a scaling goal and then 265 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe you got stuck, and how did you break through that. 266 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 267 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: I can't take much credit for this, but I feel 268 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: like we were reaching that point at the end of 269 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, and that's when our warehouse got hit 270 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: by a tornado. Oh, and honestly, I think the universe 271 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: was just like that was the push. You know, this 272 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: is the second time in my life a natural disasters 273 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: impacted me in that way. I hope that it doesn't 274 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: always take a natural disaster to do that. But there 275 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: was a lot of things towards the twenty twenty three 276 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: that we were doing that in my gut knew that 277 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: like didn't really align with where we wanted to be, 278 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 4: and just being reminded that at any moment, without a 279 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: natural disaster, you can start fresh and change your mind. 280 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: And so I've actually carried that mindset with me into 281 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: this year. You know, you can try things and if 282 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: they're not working, you don't have to stick with them. 283 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: Nobody's actually paying that much attention. It's all very internal. 284 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: When things like that happen, it was just a clean 285 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: slate and it changed the way I thought about how 286 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: we produce things, you know, how we ship things, and 287 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: what my role and all of that is. And it 288 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 4: really was a very hard reset. 289 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just kind of forced to figure it out 290 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: at that point. 291 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, do you mind talking more about that 292 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: experience with the tornado? I know before the show we 293 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: were talking about how your warehouse was shut down for 294 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: like four months or something. 295 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were at an event there was a 296 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 4: tornado warning, as often happens here in Nashville. I kind 297 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: of just didn't think anything of it because we hear 298 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: it all the time. And I had some buddies who 299 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: their car was parked up there, and at the end 300 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: of the night they went back to it and they 301 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: called me and they said, hey, have you been to 302 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: your warehouse. I'm like no, and they're like, should probably 303 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: come up here, And you know, I just thought, oh, 304 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: it'll be maybe some wind damage or whatever. But it 305 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: completely ripped the roof off of the back of our warehouse, 306 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: which was where we had all of our inventory stored 307 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: all of our equipment. So to walk in and see 308 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 4: what we had been building over three years just completely destroyed. 309 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 4: You know, I had my moment, you know, I walked 310 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: back there, had a nice little cry, and then it 311 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: was kind of like, all right, tomorrow, I gotta get 312 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: a U haul and get what I can out of here. 313 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: So you really just go into survival mode at that point. 314 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 4: But then once we had everything in storage, it started 315 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: to be like, Okay, what are we going to do 316 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: to rebuild, and I wanted to be very intentional about 317 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: how we did that. I looked at it as an opportunity. Honestly, 318 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 4: it was horrible, but at that point there's nothing you 319 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: can do. I just said, if I'm going to do 320 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: this again, I'm going to do it exactly the way 321 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: that I want to do it. And that's what we've 322 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: been trying to accomplish. 323 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Coming up on Mind the Business small business success stories. 324 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: I never thought I wanted to work for myself, but 325 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: the freedom I feel with being able to take on 326 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: jobs that I want and say no to things that 327 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: I don't, I truly am the happiest. 328 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: I've ever been in my life. 329 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Welcome back to Mind the Business. 330 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: So in this industry, how do you define the difference 331 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: between stability or stagnation, Because there's some business owners that like, 332 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: you reach a point and you're like, I'm good here, 333 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to do anymore, versus feeling like you 334 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: do want to accomplish more, but then it's harder and 335 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: harder to do. So, so what does that look like 336 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: for you? 337 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: I think keeping stability from feeling like stagnation is it's 338 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: definitely a challenge. But for me, it's the creativity and 339 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: the items that we're doing. If we can know that 340 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: we can expect a certain amount of sales, a certain 341 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: amount of traffic, a certain amount of projects to come in, 342 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: that's stability, But the variation within that is what keeps 343 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: it from feeling stagnant. So we might have four big 344 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: projects or clients at a time, but they're all different. 345 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: You know, we're working with musicians, we're working with comedians, 346 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: we're working with small business owners. We're still providing the 347 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: same service, but the components within it are so different 348 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,119 Speaker 4: that that keeps it from feeling stagnant. 349 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. You never want 350 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: to get too good at your job as an entrepreneur 351 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: when you're always taking on those new opportunities to see 352 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: what else can I add that still feels aligned with 353 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: the original mission. I think that will help feed that 354 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: creative bug that keeps you going in the long term. 355 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 356 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: I hope that there's never a day where I'm like, oh, yeah, 357 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: I got this, like, because I definitely every day is 358 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 4: a new challenge. I'm looking something up that I've never 359 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: done before or how to do it, and I don't 360 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: think that'll ever end. 361 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: When you look back at the history of your business, 362 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: can you identify any strategies that you've used to avoid 363 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: becoming stagnant. 364 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: I think my biggest strategy for avoiding is to never 365 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: be satisfied, you know, and not in a way that's 366 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: like nothing's ever good enough. But I think there's always 367 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: something that I can do better, that we can do 368 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: better as a business. There's always a new market to reach, 369 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 4: there's a new perspective to look at. My husband and 370 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: I have this saying between us, we say never peak, 371 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: you know, like let's enjoy it and let's have fun 372 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: and we can celebrate a moment. 373 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 3: But I think there's always progress to be made. 374 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, something that I like to do is reflect on 375 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: my own you know, ups and downs, lefts and rights 376 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: to small business owner. So I'm curious, how have you 377 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: sort of laid out the groundwork so far this year 378 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to maybe new SKUs, new financial goals, 379 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: maybe any big challenges that you're working toward achieving, and 380 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: just like all these big exciting things that come with 381 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: being a small business owner. As we begin a new 382 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: year and continue to thrive. 383 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 4: Throughout it, Yeah, I think because we've been in such 384 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: growth stages, this year has really been about finding stability, 385 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: and the only way that we can do that is 386 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: for me to be able to focus on business, not 387 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: in the business, and I think I'm really living that 388 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: this year, really just trying to make sure that we 389 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: have a steady source of income so that I can 390 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: have staff and people that are starting to run the 391 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: day to day operations of the business a little bit more. 392 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 4: So that's been a huge priority. With the custom stuff, 393 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: you have less planning because it's sort of more up 394 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: to the client, but on the retail side, being able 395 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: to really say, Okay, this year, we're going to do 396 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: three new hats, We're planning on launching some things for 397 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 4: the summer, and so those are the kind of things 398 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: that I like to be able to really have the 399 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 4: time to focus on. 400 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: So for those people who are still working in the 401 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 2: business and they want to get to a place where 402 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: they can work on the business like you are, do 403 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: you have any actionable insights or tips to give them. 404 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: I think you just really have to make it a 405 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: priority to be able to remove yourself. It's so easy 406 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: to just especially with like our entrepreneurial spirit to just 407 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 4: say oh, I'll just do it, like I have to 408 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: stop myself all the time. I would still be packing 409 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: orders like if I had it by way, and I 410 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 4: still sometimes I'll see an order from a friend and 411 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I want to pack their order, and 412 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: that I will still do that sometimes, but to be 413 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: able to stop and say, you know what, Actually, I'm 414 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 4: just going to drop a quick note to the team 415 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: and say, hey, can you include a note from me? 416 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 3: Or I wrote a note, I want to make sure 417 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 3: I give it to you before you. 418 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 4: Pack you or so letting go of those things that 419 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 4: you're used to holding on to as the sole proprietor 420 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 4: of a business. 421 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: I think the letting go part is the hardest. How 422 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: do you if they're the right people? 423 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: The truth is, you don't know if they're the right people. 424 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 4: I think hiring in this environment and with a business 425 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: it's this personal is just a lot of trial and error, 426 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: and I think you have to be okay with number one. 427 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm very direct. 428 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 4: That's one thing that you know, being from the Northeast 429 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: and being here in Nashville that maybe people aren't so 430 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 4: used to. And I want people to have the opportunity 431 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: to learn and change and grow. But if something's consistently 432 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: not working, then we just have to be like, hey, 433 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: you know what, maybe this isn't the right fit for me, 434 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: right fit for you, and let's move on and no 435 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: hard feelings. Obviously being compassionate and I want everyone who 436 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 4: works at this business to feel like they're a part 437 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: of the business, but at the same time being honest 438 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: and realistic about what the needs are. 439 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. 440 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: Knowing what you know now, with all this experience that 441 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: you have as an entrepreneur, what advice would you give 442 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: to others who are hitting that first plateau and that 443 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: are feeling like they've hit that ceiling. 444 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: I think when you've hit that first plateau, I think 445 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: there's a couple of things that you have to do 446 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: with in yourself, and you have to be really honest, 447 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: it's am I hitting this plateau? 448 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: And is it something we can get passed? 449 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: Or am I really spinning my wheels doing something that 450 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense? You know, there's a couple of times 451 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: that we've sort of changed direction, and I think that 452 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: was because I just really thought about is this why 453 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: I started the business? 454 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: Is this what I should be doing? 455 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: And I think being able to be honest with yourself 456 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: and do a little bit of self reflection is really 457 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: important because I know other business owners that they feel 458 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: stagnant and maybe it's just not the right fit for 459 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: them as a bit, and it's hard to make that decision. 460 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 4: But I think you have to be realistic about it. 461 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, most definitely. I'm curious when it relates to some 462 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: really big projects, what are some of your biggest like, wow, 463 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: I did that moments? 464 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: I think when we had a garment on SNL. We've 465 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: now had that twice with the same person. Nate Bargetzi. 466 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 4: He's a local, well now he's a national international comedian, 467 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: but he's from the Nashville area. 468 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: He's super big on supporting local artists. 469 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: His stylist is a friend of mine from when I 470 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: worked in the music industry, and she said, Nate's got 471 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: this idea, he wants to wear something to represent Nashville 472 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: on SNL. You know, you kind of think, Okay, we'll 473 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 4: make this, and sometimes they wear it, sometimes they don't. 474 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: And I didn't even stay up to watch it the 475 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: first time because I didn't want to get my hopes up. 476 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: And the next day everyone's like, oh my God, did 477 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: you make that? You know? 478 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: And so that was the most like outward recognition I 479 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 4: think that we've ever gotten. But inward, I think just 480 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: being a part of like the Nashville community and going 481 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: to places and seeing other small business owners and become 482 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: familiar with each other and kind of having a rapport. 483 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, yeah, I'm here, I'm here, talk to. 484 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Me more about the community aspect. I'm just thinking about 485 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: back to this tornado. I cannot imagine experiencing that. How 486 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: did your community here in Nashville surround you and support 487 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: you as you bounce back from such a natural disaster 488 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: like that. 489 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: That was one of the most incredible things I've experienced 490 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: in my life. 491 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: We're really big on helping. 492 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: We've done things where we donate proceeds from our shop 493 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: to other people. Just in my personal life, I definitely 494 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 4: believe in like paying it forward and helping other people out. 495 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: It is incredibly hard to receive that kind of support 496 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 4: when you're used to being the one giving it. Immediately 497 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: right after everything happened, a fellow small business owner he 498 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: had been through a fire with his business, and he said, 499 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: we're going to start a GoFundMe and we were like, no, 500 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: let's wait and see what insurance says, and we don't 501 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: need to do that. And he said there's going to 502 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: be things that you're not expecting and that insurance is 503 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: not going to cover. And he said we're going to 504 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: do it. And I had to just say okay. And 505 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: then that weekend, whatever inventory we had left that was 506 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: left in the actual like physical shop that wasn't affected, 507 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: we had a huge sale. We just had a parking 508 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: lot and I told everyone, I said, I wanted to 509 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 4: be like a party, like I got a DJ. We 510 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: set up outside and people waited in line for these 511 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: custom bags that we were doing, and we sold out 512 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: in two hours. 513 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: Wow, And it was just really beautiful. 514 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: It's a second time Nashville has been through a tornado, 515 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: and both times the community has really showed up for everybody. 516 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 517 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic. 518 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: We're four years into this business. Now. What keeps pushing 519 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: you to come back every single day, every single week, 520 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: every single month and grow and be goods? What is 521 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: your why? 522 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: My why is that I truly am the happiest I've 523 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: ever been in my life. I had a wonderful experience 524 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 4: working with some really great people working in the music industry. 525 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: I never thought I wanted to work for myself, but 526 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 4: the freedom I feel with being able to take on 527 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: jobs that I want and say no to things that 528 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 4: I don't. I used to be very much a people pleaser, 529 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: and I'll be honest, I love telling somebody no. Now 530 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: I read a book called Essentialism that sort of really 531 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 4: changed my perspective. That's like, if it's not like a 532 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 4: ninety percent yes, then it's a no. And so being 533 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: able to make those quick decisions and trust my instincts 534 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 4: and do things on my terms, it's been very fulfilling. 535 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: That's amazing what inspires you as far as your designs, 536 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: because I see there's a nice eclectic mix of what 537 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: you have in the store. 538 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 539 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: So when Inbigauds originally started, my goal for the business 540 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: was for people who live in Nashville to love it. 541 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 4: Nashville is a huge town for tourism, and I think 542 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: there's a lot of tropes and things, you know, cowboy 543 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: boots and honky tonks and listen, I love a good 544 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: honky tonk, Like every once in a while you could 545 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: catch me on Broadway. But I wanted it to be 546 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 4: a brand for people that live here and also for 547 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: people that visit, but to get a more realistic reflection 548 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 4: of what day to day life in Nashville is. I'm 549 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: also from New Jersey originally, so that heavily inspires a 550 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 4: lot of my designs. I'm proud to be from New Jersey. 551 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: I love carrying that sort of I call it the 552 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: East Coast attitude. Our tagline is East Coast Attitude, Music 553 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: City Charm, you know. 554 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: So it's a meeting of those worlds. 555 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 4: I feel like we've got a little edge that you 556 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: don't necessarily see a lot in Nashville, and it's important 557 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 4: for me to convey that that's awesome. 558 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: What is your favorite product in the store? 559 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: So, like I said, being from New Jersey, there's a 560 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: couple of things that I've carried with me. One of 561 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 4: them is a love for Bruce Springsteen and we have 562 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: a fanaticism. Yeah, and obviously can't just make a Bruce 563 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: Springsteen product. But there was this story that happened a 564 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: couple of years ago where he got in like a 565 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 4: little bit of trouble for doing a shot of tequila 566 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: with some fans, and I think to me that was 567 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 4: like the personification of why people love him, and so 568 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: we took that and put our own little twist on it, 569 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: and it's by far become our most popular product. It's 570 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: a foam trucker hat and it's just got very simple. 571 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: It just says, you know, it States versus Bruce Springsteen. 572 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: So that was actually the name of the court case 573 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: because it happened at basically the equivalent of like a 574 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: national park, and so it was actually a federal court case. 575 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: He ended up paying like a five hundred dollars fine 576 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: and that was the end of it. Every person that 577 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: walks in they ask about it. It's got a really 578 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: vintage design to it, and so I think it feels 579 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: like something that's old. 580 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, what was this? What did does 581 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: this happen in the seventies, And it's like, no, it 582 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 3: just happened a couple of years ago. 583 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 4: So it's a conversation starter, so people really gravitate towards it. 584 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: It's wild where inspiration comes from an entrepreneurship, you just 585 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: always kind of have to be paying attention because you 586 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: never know where that next park is going to come from. 587 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, where it came from was I was 588 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: flying up to New York to go see him, and 589 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: I had heard that he was like making a joke 590 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: about the situation, and I was like, Oh, just make a. 591 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: Hat for myself to wear. That's literally where it started. 592 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: It's probably one of the most basic designs we have 593 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 4: in the shop, and that's how it always is. 594 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: And now the story is enshrined on a hat. 595 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: It's enshrine on a half yeah, and it's made its 596 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: way to Bruce and do they really have one? 597 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? He had a wow. 598 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: And I've heard from different people about situations where he 599 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: talks about it and stuff. 600 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: So I feel like that's about as good as it 601 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: gets for a Jersey kid. 602 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: I think you've made it. 603 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: I've made it that you talk about like what's going 604 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: to make me shut down the business? Like if Bruce 605 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: Breesean walks through that door, we're done. 606 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm good. 607 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 3: I'm good. 608 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: It's awesome. 609 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 2: Camille. Thank you so much for joining us on this 610 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: episode of Mine the Business Small Business success Stories. I 611 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: learned a lot. You are such an inspiration of a 612 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: small business owner and I am so ready to go 613 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: buy everything on your shelf. 614 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 3: Right now, well, let's drop. 615 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Denise Camille Alson is an absolute inspiration. 616 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm just so excited we got to sit down and 617 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: learn so much about Kamille's business and her entire story 618 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: of going from idea to now this thriving storefront. What 619 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: if some of your biggest takeaways from our conversation. 620 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: I really loved how she tied the importance of following 621 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: your creativity in those moments where you are feeling stagnant 622 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: as a business owner. You never want to get too 623 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: good at your job, right, and so she really just 624 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: has an ear to what might be next, and it 625 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: always comes back to the core mission of the business, 626 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: which is just creating really cool merchandise that speaks to 627 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: people and that has this unique touch. And so I 628 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: think that's a great thing for all of us to 629 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: think about, what's that next thing that's going to catapult 630 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: you as a business owner to a level that you 631 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't even imagine you could reach. 632 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: I completely agree, and I think I've got two takeaways actually, 633 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 2: the first one being Camille said she started this as 634 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: sort of this like accessories type business, right because she 635 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: was wearing hats all the time, and so that's something 636 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: that she's really passionate about, really excited about, so why 637 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: not turn a passion into a small business. And the 638 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: second thing that's really important, I believe is after natural 639 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: disaster and tragedy and things like that, do not underestimate 640 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: how important it is to have that community alongside of 641 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: you and to really continue to build community alongside other 642 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: small business owners where you live. If it's in your town, 643 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: your neighborhood, maybe just inside your niche online, it doesn't matter. 644 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: But having those supporters that you can always lean on 645 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: and really have that support blanket is I think just 646 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: really really important for small business owners. 647 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we have learned so much in this episode and 648 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: in this season. I can't believe that it's over. But 649 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: until next time. You can find me on social media 650 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: at Jocto Lenetto podcast. 651 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: And you can find me at Austin Hankwitts. 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