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Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It is a

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Speaker 1: glad you're along with us here For the next forty minutes,

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Speaker 1: we are previewing the Cowboys offense versus the Philadelphia defense.

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football coming up later this week. Week three

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Speaker 1: is upon us in the NFL. I'm alongside heck Ma Harrison,

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Speaker 1: the professional Analyst, Football Analyst ESPN, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Am,

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Speaker 1: I really I'm waiting on. I can't take it now.

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Speaker 1: See you see what he just did to me Now,

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Speaker 1: I can't think about anything else but the break now

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Speaker 1: some news for him. In the bast you have some

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Speaker 1: news for heck My breaking news. Um, Rob Phillips is

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Speaker 1: along with us as well. How are you doing, Rob,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. I was worried about heck. When

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Speaker 1: But you're training and you're doing well. I am. I

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Speaker 1: am in fat rupsy right now. Guys, So you can

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Speaker 1: we coin that term? Can we make T shirts? No,

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Speaker 1: don't you make a team? I'm not. Don't you do that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, damn T shirts we got. We got a bunch.

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Speaker 1: You got rat boy vibes, brat boy vibes. Say it

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Speaker 1: with your chest, yeah, smelly stick smelly stickers. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got a lot of different T shirt sayings here. But

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Speaker 1: to make it subtle. No, don't make it stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I'll get it here. You went to speed limit though, right,

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Speaker 1: um and autobun limit all right, North Texas given day.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys know that? No? Oh, Wow, no, no,

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Speaker 1: so I got side. I'm trying to post for some

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Speaker 1: like that. Let's get into Cowboys news since everybody's here now.

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Speaker 1: There was some news that broke yesterday. Wednesday just has

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Speaker 1: been an unfortunate day over the last two weeks for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Kean O'Neil out this week because of COVID

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Speaker 1: or based on the COVID reserve list. What is the

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Speaker 1: what is the update there, Well, he hadn't been ruled

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Speaker 1: out yet, that's good. But if we go off of

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Speaker 1: every player that's had this happened to them days before

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Speaker 1: a game, then they're preparing for him not to play.

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Speaker 1: It happened to Randy Gregory, it happened to Zach Martin,

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Speaker 1: happened to Brandon Night. Noah Brown was cleared in time

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Speaker 1: but didn't play. So the reports are he's a close contact,

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence obviously very interesting where Michael Parsons is gonna

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Speaker 1: line up and maybe maybe it's a little bit of everywhere.

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Speaker 1: the linebacker spot? Hope not? Hope. No, There's a dude

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Speaker 1: We don't know the health of their tight ends why.

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Speaker 1: I think Zach Earnst is out for the game, but

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Speaker 1: They're ginormous, right, and they got that old man Uncle Strim.

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Speaker 1: the center as well. He's right in the middle. He

424
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Speaker 1: can help both guys pre snap, after the snap, combo blocks,

425
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I think the presence of a

426
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: six time pro bowler is that's they're thinking, is that

427
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: we've got two young guys on either side of Zach Martin.

428
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Speaker 1: Let's let's have him help out both guys. I don't disagree.

429
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I mean, you obviously want to support

430
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: him as much as possible. He'll be fine, He'll be fine.

431
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's getting better. I mean, you can't get

432
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Speaker 1: better if you don't get reps, right, So that's what

433
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: he has to do. He's throwing him to the fire.

434
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's led us down by any means. Um.

435
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 1: He just is facing some very large human beings that

436
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: know what the heck they're doing. So that's how that's

437
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: how you got to fair figure it out. Though, you

438
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Speaker 1: know what, I mean, he faced what freaking three to

439
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: the three to best guys think about it. I mean

440
00:21:53,400 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: he faced who in camp in camp Donald? Oh that guy? Yeah, okay,

441
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: and then in his first game this year he played

442
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: against all Right, and now he's going against Fletcher Cox.

443
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: He had Linville Joseph last Linnville last week, So I

444
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: mean you're playing he's playing the best that this league

445
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: has to offer. Every week he will be better. I

446
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: thought I would see an uptick going into the Joseph

447
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: matchup last week, though, I thought he would match up

448
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: decently there. I don't think he got dogged, but I don't.

449
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: You're right he didn't, But I didn't see a massive improvement.

450
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: You're looking for domination. He's not going to dominate anybody

451
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: this year, right, Let's get that clear. He's not. He

452
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: doesn't having a junk in the trunk's good thing. He's not.

453
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Speaker 1: He's not what was he like three ten? Maybe you know?

454
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he reminds me of like Kyle

455
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Speaker 1: Kosher back in the day. Like Kyle did his job,

456
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: but he wasn't dump trunk in anybody, right. He was

457
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: surrounded by large human beings and he did his job efficiently.

458
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Speaker 1: But you can't ask him to go out there and dominate.

459
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: You just want him to not get dogged and make

460
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Speaker 1: sure that everybody's lined up and going in the right direction.

461
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Speaker 1: And I think coach Philbin and Kelly Moore doing a

462
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Speaker 1: wonderful job with the offensive line. Just think about where

463
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Speaker 1: they were in the first game. People don't talk about, oh,

464
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: we didn't have Zach the first game and we came

465
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Speaker 1: close to winning that one. But still I think they're

466
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Speaker 1: doing a really good job of protecting uh dak Um

467
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: the calls, the play calling. Also, it's putting dak in

468
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: a position to for success. But again I think, be honest,

469
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Speaker 1: the going back to what you just said, I think

470
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Speaker 1: as his career goes, as he gets more strength, he'll

471
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Speaker 1: be able to win those uh those matchups. But it's

472
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Speaker 1: gonna be like that every week for him. So, like

473
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Speaker 1: urban Meyer said, it's it's Alabama every weekend. So what

474
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Speaker 1: do you think about that? I think that thing is

475
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Speaker 1: just a whole just just just blow the whole coaching

476
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Speaker 1: staff up. I don't know why he was ever hired,

477
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Speaker 1: but let's not talk to Alabama every week. Let's not

478
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: even Gorbane all day on her no non conference in September.

479
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: We're playing, not he's not playing. I mean, these guys

480
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: go to sleep with tablets in their hand watching film.

481
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Speaker 1: They know what we're doing. Holy mo geez, wow, this

482
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Speaker 1: is not the best athletes in the world all ge golly.

483
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: Every guy was a star in college. Yeah, freaking freak heckmen,

484
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned play calling and Isaiah or excuse me, Rob

485
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 1: the other day said I know, I know, get you

486
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Speaker 1: guys mixed up all the time. Um, Rob, last week

487
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Speaker 1: you said that you thought it was the best two

488
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Speaker 1: game stretch of Kelln Moore play calling that you had seen. Yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: the best play calling that he had done throughout his

490
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator career. What kind of advantage does that give

491
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Speaker 1: you or do you believe that gives you going into

492
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Speaker 1: a game like this where you have some certain matchups

493
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Speaker 1: that stick out, but ultimately this is probably the worst

494
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Speaker 1: defensive unit you've faced so far. Well, that's a great

495
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Speaker 1: you think it is. I think they're really good. I

496
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Speaker 1: think personnel wise, you think so, like more so than

497
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Speaker 1: than LA. I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

498
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Speaker 1: argue with you on Tampa, but yeah, yeah, but I

499
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: mean they're they're good, especially in the front excuse me,

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Speaker 1: in the front seven. Um, what you asked the first

501
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Speaker 1: right off the top of the show about what the

502
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Speaker 1: offense has done best. I think it connects to what

503
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Speaker 1: I said about Kellen, what we've said about Kellen Moore.

504
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Colin plays like they've shown they can win any type

505
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Speaker 1: of game. They can win a boxing match or a

506
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: bar fight, whatever they need to do, if they need

507
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: to run the ball a bunch. They can do that.

508
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: If Dak needs to throw at sixty times, not ideal,

509
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: but they can. They can do that. And so that's

510
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Speaker 1: what I'm curious about. And you guys touched on kind

511
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: of what Philly likes to do, what they do best.

512
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: How defenses want to play this Cowboys offense going forward.

513
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Do they want to try to sell out and stop

514
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: the run? Or with the way Dak Prescott has evolved

515
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Speaker 1: as a quarterback, do you really want to give him

516
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: opportunities one on one in the passing game? You know?

517
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Speaker 1: And so how how does Philly want to play it?

518
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: Do they want to play his own and play safeties

519
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: over the top and say kind of like what's La

520
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: did and say we'll make We'll give you some runs,

521
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna make you drive the football and hopefully

522
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: you make a mistake and if you only score twenty points,

523
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Speaker 1: maybe we can steal a game from you. I'm curious

524
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Speaker 1: to see how, And someb of it depends on what

525
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: defense's strengths are, to begin with, what they're capable of

526
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Speaker 1: doing from a personnel standpoint, What do you think they

527
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Speaker 1: would do from Philly's perspective, Well, as they hit on it.

528
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know they'll they'll keep a

529
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Speaker 1: safety over the top, but and try not to give

530
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Speaker 1: up big plays. That's kind of what you've seen from them,

531
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: that they'll play some shell coverage and kind of make

532
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Speaker 1: you drive the length of the field because they have

533
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Speaker 1: confidence in their guys up front. So I'm curious to

534
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: see what they do though. And they haven't given up

535
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: a one pass for over twenty yards, so I mean,

536
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: even when we talk about what they do in the BOSS,

537
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: they still plays forty yards back, but they're limiting. What

538
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: they're trying to do is limit the big play, and

539
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: they've done a really good job of that. But back

540
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: to Kellen Moore and he he's faced a lot of criticism,

541
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Speaker 1: but I love when Mike McCarthy was in his press

542
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: conference and he talked about him actually being a head

543
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: coach next year. I think he's onto something and this

544
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: isn't hot takish. I just feel like and one of

545
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: those people that I do not like, these young coaches

546
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: that get elevated over guys has been in the league

547
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: for a long time. I think Eric the Enemy deserves

548
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: to be a head coach in the NFL. Not college,

549
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, and this is but when you look at

550
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore and what he's doing from an offensive standpoint,

551
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: it translates to everything that we see in football right

552
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: now in high school, college and the pros, the game

553
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: that he's the kind of games that he's calling, and

554
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: so I just think, man, that he is next in line.

555
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: I think if you look at what he's doing, and

556
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: if Dak was is able to play, god stay healthy

557
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: this entire year, you're going to see those numbers reflected

558
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: in our offense down will that reflecting wins? I don't know.

559
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the numbers and what he's going

560
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: to put up, and I think he's a guy that's

561
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: on his way. One of the things that I'm curious

562
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: about if he does become a head coach. What kind

563
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: of personality does Kelly Moore have? You know, I don't.

564
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: We don't know him like that. Maybe you do, but

565
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's better go to charm school because he's

566
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: in line. I think he's shown more personality this year

567
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: than he ever has, though, Like I think that's kind

568
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: of he's getting comfortable. You can see the confidence starting

569
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: to build, and I think I first noticed that his

570
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: first press conference in ox narn and he stepped up

571
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: on the podium and he made a witty little joke

572
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: and kind of went after it. I think the confidence

573
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: levels building, not only off the field, but you could

574
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: see it in his play calling. When in the past,

575
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: would you have seen three down linemen and then what

576
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: was it? Both tackles out to the left like we saw,

577
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: and I know it worked one play it and it

578
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: didn't work two plays later. However, I mean that confidence

579
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: level is next level for Kelvin agreeing you've seen it.

580
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you on Eric b Enemy And there's a

581
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: lot of good coaching candidates out there, I mean, And

582
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: so to just assume he's going to be a head

583
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL next year, there's no guarantee of that.

584
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: That's not how many jobs are open and what they're

585
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: looking for. And I definitely think I could see him

586
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: definitely getting more than one interview like he got last

587
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: year if this offense, especially if this offense keeps on

588
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: the track that they are. But you know, there's no

589
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: guarantee they're losing him next year, and you know it's

590
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: week two week. You want to keep you oc Yeah,

591
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure, the Cowboys, sure, as hector, Yeah, yeah, everybody

592
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: wants to keep calamore. You think it's something, as they

593
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: will say it, what is it? I don't. I don't

594
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: know the man, so I can't speak to his ability

595
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: to coach other men. I don't know that. And people

596
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: think that. People think of head coach, they think, oh,

597
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: are you a good offensive coordinator? Are you a good

598
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? That's a part of being a head coach.

599
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Majority of your main role as a head coach is

600
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: to coach the men who coach the other men, all right,

601
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: So your your job is to coach your coaches. That's

602
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: your job. But coach Belichick made this very clear when

603
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I was annoying, that he coaches the coaches, right, and

604
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: the coaches job is then to turn around, take that

605
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: leadership from him and then convey that over to the players.

606
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: You are a manager of men as a head coach,

607
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: your CEO. You are a CEO. So if you love coaching,

608
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: like in terms of like play calling, you're probably not

609
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: a head coach unless you're a Sean McVay, right, and

610
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, like there's very few of those guys like that.

611
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: He's different. But that's what But that's exactly what my point.

612
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: And you see those young guys get elevated like that

613
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: and the Syriannis of the world like, who are they? Absolutely,

614
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: but there's I think everybody in this in this world

615
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: and this room will say, we can admit that something's

616
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: different about McVey, right, he has little a little to him.

617
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if Kellen Moore has it. I don't know,

618
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Speaker 1: I really don't. That's what I can't sit up here

619
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Speaker 1: and saying I can't speak to you know if he

620
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: has you know, that kind of grit in that and

621
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Speaker 1: is he outspoken enough to be a head coach? Coach

622
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: Phillips is a great coach, but is he a head coach?

623
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Speaker 1: You know? So he's a great coordinator, So it's you. You,

624
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Speaker 1: So you look at people's abilities and say, Okay, just

625
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: because they can call plays really well and they understand

626
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: the game, doesn't mean that they should be in a

627
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Speaker 1: position to manage other grown men manage. I mean Kellen

628
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Moore managing the entire staff of fifty plus year old men,

629
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Speaker 1: that that takes a lot. So I don't know if

630
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Speaker 1: he's capable of doing that, because I don't know the

631
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: man well enough but just understand that it's a lot

632
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Speaker 1: more than just your ability to play call plays when

633
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Speaker 1: he becomes the head coach, and he will, I think

634
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: he will, given at some point it will be for

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's why he would get the job

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Speaker 1: for sure. But the CEO part, that's that's what Mike

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Speaker 1: the head coach and now he's even talked about it

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Speaker 1: to That's my job is to coach the coaches and

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Speaker 1: a great points about both of you guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I love when anytime that you talk about Bill

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653
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Speaker 1: at coaches like Nick Saban in the college level, I

654
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Speaker 1: think all of these guys have one gene that's important,

655
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Speaker 1: and that's one of the most important things is organization.

656
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Speaker 1: These guys are supreme organizers and they're able to put

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Speaker 1: these things and get things together. I think Kelln Moore

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Speaker 1: is that way as well, and so I mean that's

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Speaker 1: one of those like successfully's clues, this is one of those,

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Speaker 1: and that's being organized and I see that in them

661
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Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it with what Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: But having Dak Prescott come back, so when we come back,

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Speaker 1: I know you wanted to talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: So I am personally on the board for Union Gospel

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Speaker 1: But they tackle a lot of different things education, wellness,

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Speaker 1: a lot of other good ones. I'm sure Dallas has

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Speaker 1: something that they're tied too. But if you guys, even

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Speaker 1: And you can also donate. I know the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: very very involved in North Texas Giving Day as well

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Speaker 1: Salvation Army. I believe that Jerry Jones or Gene and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you and I are going to talk

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Speaker 1: after the show. I'm going to hook you up as

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Speaker 1: well from my own side. But all right, Cowboys and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: We've been previewing the Cowboys offense versus that Eagles defense,

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Speaker 1: but now I kind of want to compare the offensive

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Speaker 1: defense through two weeks between the Cowboys. We only got

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Speaker 1: about five minutes here, so which one has seen the

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Speaker 1: majority of the improvement through two weeks of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: You can date it all the way back to camp,

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Speaker 1: all the way back to the off season, but I

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Speaker 1: want to know which one has come the furthest from

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Speaker 1: the middle of the off season into now going into

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Speaker 1: week three. I'll start with you, Heckma, Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the defense simply because of the turnovers

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Speaker 1: that they've created over the last eleven games. I believe

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Speaker 1: it's eleven game, yeah, eleven weeks. And I think they've

782
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Speaker 1: done a really good job with that. Nink Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: hit emphasis on culture and competition. You see it immediately

784
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Speaker 1: with the way that these guys getting to the ball,

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Speaker 1: Guys the next man up is really competing. Um and

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Speaker 1: and so I'm just I'm gonna say defense literally because

787
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Speaker 1: the offense has been clicking since the beginning. I would

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Speaker 1: say offense just because they got guys back. I mean,

789
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Speaker 1: the defense was basically ahead of the offense throughout training

790
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Speaker 1: camp in preseason. You get Dak Prescott back, that makes

791
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: a huge difference also Amari Cooper. Um. But I'm with

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Speaker 1: Heck in terms of you go all the way back

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Speaker 1: to last year, this is a more in tune defense

794
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Speaker 1: than it was. They're still giving up yards but they

795
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Speaker 1: are taking the ball away and they're getting stops when

796
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Speaker 1: they need to for the most part, plus fourteen in

797
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Speaker 1: the turnover margins since those the start of those eleven games. Heck,

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Speaker 1: but which is number one in the NFL at the moment.

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Speaker 1: So I am not going to pick special teams an answer,

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Speaker 1: I mean it could be the answers answering. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: not picking special teams. And I'm gonna go with the

802
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Speaker 1: defense just because the expectation on offense is so high

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00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to, you know, see that. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think we've put up the points that we

805
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Speaker 1: really want to put up on that side of the

806
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Speaker 1: ball yet, even though we are converting in a rezon

807
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Speaker 1: which is awesome. Um, but um defense hands down. And

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Speaker 1: we don't even have to go back to last season

809
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Speaker 1: we just talked about just from camp, there's there is

810
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Speaker 1: question marks in terms of what this team was going

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Speaker 1: to be, and those questions are starting to get answered.

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Speaker 1: I think we're starting to figure out, they're starting to

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Speaker 1: figure out who what their identity is, right to culture

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Speaker 1: and you know, to the swag, how you play, how

815
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Speaker 1: everybody the next man up. That's a lot of people

816
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Speaker 1: say that is it real on thost teams. No, on

817
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Speaker 1: this team, it's starting to show the next man is up.

818
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Speaker 1: And it's only been two weeks. Exactly when your first

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Speaker 1: round draft pick already looks like he could be the

820
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Speaker 1: best player on your defense by the end of the season,

821
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Speaker 1: then that you're headed in the right direction you drafted. Well, yeah,

822
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Speaker 1: it's a good point. It's a good point. And I

823
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Speaker 1: think I would say defense too if we're dating it back,

824
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Speaker 1: just because of like you said, the improvement in communication.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not seeing as many blown coverages. Like

826
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Speaker 1: Rob said, They've been giving up yards, but they're not

827
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Speaker 1: giving up the bi big play. They're not giving it

828
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Speaker 1: up over the top. I don't want to jinx anything

829
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Speaker 1: going into Week three, because I mean, Philly's going to

830
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Speaker 1: touch you deep on a couple of occasions. However, I

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Speaker 1: do want to say the offense last year, whenever you

832
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Speaker 1: lost your tackles, whenever you lost certain players on the outside,

833
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Speaker 1: you didn't skip a beat last week with no Lyle Collins,

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Speaker 1: with no Michael Gallup, and you were able to execute

835
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Speaker 1: better than you did Week one, which is I think

836
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Speaker 1: something that to say about that offense. So there has

837
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Speaker 1: definitely been improvement on that side of the football. Dak

838
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Speaker 1: Prescott has a ton to do with that, but the

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Speaker 1: growth of some of the underneath guys like a Terrence

840
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Speaker 1: Steal and a Tony Pollard certainly do as well. No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And look we have to look at the Cooper effect

842
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Speaker 1: on that offense. I think he for all the criticism

843
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Speaker 1: that he gets, man, he is coming in big for

844
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Speaker 1: this offense in the first two games and been a

845
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Speaker 1: reliable source for it. For Dak Prescott, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, like when you talk about the improvements defense

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Speaker 1: had those numbers. I mean, Coop still had ninety two

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Speaker 1: catches last year, you know, I mean, which was what

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Speaker 1: tackles and you know, so, look, I just looking at

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Speaker 1: the offense, I think that we still have the ability

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Speaker 1: even when we didn't have all of our guns. I

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Speaker 1: think defensively we just didn't have anything. And you see

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Speaker 1: the resurgence. I see these guys playing with faith and

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Speaker 1: belief in one another, and we didn't have that last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are gonna have to do it without

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Speaker 1: key On O'Neill this week, and they've got a couple

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Speaker 1: other guys missing, so they have to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe no Dorian's Armstrong or Carlos Watkins either, Cooper, let's

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Speaker 1: not talk about that. Let's not talk about it, but yes,

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Speaker 1: that's potential tomorrow, say it with your chest Friday here

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