WEBVTT - How Karma Works 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.360 from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.000 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always is 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.919 Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and that makes this stuff you 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:27.000 should know right, Yes, yeah, the podcast. Have you noticed 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.000 this carbonated beverage that I'm drinking. It's just like carbonated water. Yeah, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:37.120 the one that that rhymes with the boy. Um. I've 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.200 noticed that I've gotten probably burp year in podcasts since 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.839 I started drinking that. Yeah, that stuff is you know, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.519 it's dizzy. I'm a fan. 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Yes, Chuck Josh, I'm sure 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.040 you've heard the word karma bandied about a lot lately. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.960 Oh man, Uh, you could probably find a pretty recent 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.320 spike in use on the internets in association with a 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.480 person's name. That would be Casey Anthony. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.480 Casey Anthony, the alleged killer of her daughter Kaylee, who 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.320 has let off, who is um found not guilty acquitted. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.080 I guess you'd say, yeah, she's found guilty of something 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.200 else though today right, she was found guilty for counts 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.520 of lying to the police. Yeah. I didn't follow this 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.000 case set closely. Actually I didn't either, But I mean 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.080 like people were crazy over it. I saw, and uh, 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.520 I get the impression that most of people, well, don't 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.400 think that that justice was done necessarily. That's the impression 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.280 I get. So people have gone to their go to 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.480 recourse when you have no other recourse, and they are 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.880 giving it over to karma, the law of the universe. Yes, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.919 karma will get you. That karma is gonna come around 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.720 and get Casey Anthony one day. Yeah, I say that 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.840 same thing. So it's a very new ag approach to karma, 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.200 like karma is gonna get you for wronging me, right, 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.120 or I did a good deed, so karma is gonna 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.480 smile on me, right, And that you can't really approach 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.079 karma from a true viewpoint as far as the viewpoint 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.480 of the people who created this concept are concerned without 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.000 the positive and the negative. And for the most part, 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.280 karma is actually very negative. It's something you want to 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.000 escape from. And if something bad happens to you, or 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.040 you are born disfigured or whatever, it's because you did 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:56.000 something in your past life. Westerners kind of find this distasteful, right, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.200 so we've abandoned it largely and taken this new ag 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.360 approached karma. Let's talk about all forms of karma. It's 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.679 like mick karma in the Western world. It's exactly right. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.280 That's a really great way to pick You should coin 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:13.160 that um chuck. Before we get started, I want to say, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.880 if you had a problem with acupuncture, our acupuncture podcast, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.720 our reincarnation podcast, our voodoo podcast, any podcast where we 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.880 showed um respect to other people's beliefs that are weird 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.720 or just you know, unlike yours, and you had a 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.800 real problem with it. Skip this one. We want you 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.880 to continue to like us. We respect your opinions, and 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.120 we don't want to bristle you. So just go ahead 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:40.360 and skip this one to go to the next one. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.400 There's like three d and fifty other ones. Just listen 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.800 to us. Okay, listen to the Muppets one. That's a good, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.400 good advice. No dissenters on that one. So let's give 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.960 everybody a second. Okay, But you know, we're works. We 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.440 explain how stuff works. That's what we do. Yeah, and 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.800 it's not up to us to assault um millennia of 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.240 beliefs that billions of people across the world hold. So 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.280 that's not what we're here for. We're here to explain it. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.560 Like you said, So speaking from the eastern point of view, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.080 we'll get to the western view and how we got 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.720 that later, how it got on. My name is Earl exactly. Yeah, 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.400 that's what the basis of the show is, right, So, um, yeah, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.000 because he gets hit by a car. If you're winning 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:26.320 a lottery, uh no, he just won the lottery and 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.159 gets hit by a car and it gives him pause. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.600 I don't remember the car part. I just knew he 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.760 won the lottery, but he was a bad guy and 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.040 getting hit by the car made him think, I don't 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.760 remember that, and I think there was like a song 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.960 or something like karma, Like karma was on his mind 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.560 and he gets hit by a car and like that 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.280 was the sign from the universe that must have been 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.719 in the pilot episode. I don't know if I saw that. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:54.160 So Eastern Eastern philosophy, and we're talking four main um 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.640 organized religions that believe in karma. That would be jaane 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:05.039 is Um, Sikhism, Jainism, yeah, John, yeah, joinis Um, Uh Sikhism, Hinduism, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.120 and Buddhism. Right. Yes, the word karma itself. We like 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.240 to point out the roots sometimes of these words. It 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.240 stands script uh karman k r m A N, which 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.800 means act. Just kind of makes a lot of sense, right. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.080 There's also a polly word, and polly is the original 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:24.680 language used for Buddhist text. I believe um it's kama 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.680 k A M m A and it means action, so 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.920 virtually the same thing. Yeah, Well, it all makes sense 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.960 because karma is all about You're the acts that you commit, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.440 good or bad, coming back to bite you or elevate you. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.800 Mostly to bite you. So where should we Where should 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:46.080 we start out here with I guess Hinduism we should. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.640 We should also say, like the concept of karma is 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.120 similar in a lot of ways, but among these four 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.000 there's a lot of really interesting differences. Yes, if you 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.240 do remember our Reincarnation podcast, you remember us talking about 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.839 sam Sara, and that is the eternal cycle of birth 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:08.400 and rebirth that Hindus believe that humans go through. And 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.360 you're tied to that cycle through karma. Yes, until you 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.360 shed all your karma, as far as Hindus believe, you 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:20.240 will never achieve moksha, which is basically salvation. You're freed 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.359 from the cycle of rebirth. You don't have to waste 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.600 any time on earth any longer. Right, But here's where 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.440 I get confused. For some reason, this one confused me, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.320 maybe because they're also similar but slightly different. I thought, 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.400 in Hinduism, does the karma reset after each rebirth? No, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.200 it clings, it clings to the soul. Okay, So with 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:45.560 with Hindus, the soul survives transmutation. Okay, With Buddhists, karma 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.359 is well, we'll talk about it later, but yes, with Hindus, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.240 it's it. Your soul goes from body to body and 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.800 the karma's attached to it. Yeah, okay, So moksha that 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.080 you said is the goal of salvation and that's the 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.400 ultimate goal. And this is one of those things in 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.240 Eastern religion a lot of Westerners can't even comprehend. It 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.720 can only be achieved after it is no longer desired. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.320 It doesn't like it blows my mind. I know, that's 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.680 like sound of one hand clapping. Well, and that's why 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.840 they think ponder that for their lifetime, because it's hard 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.520 to wrap your head around it, right, And I wonder 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.520 the like, the best way to not want that is 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.840 to really enjoy your life on earth. But then moksha 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.680 is a bad thing, so I don't think it necessarily 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.239 happens like that. I think you're just kind of like whatever. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.320 So for Hindu's good karma is you generally get good 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:41.280 karma if you uh perform the duties of your social 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.640 uh status, your cast, and if you perform those well, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.040 then in your next life you will be born into 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:51.120 the next highest or maybe you'll skip a couple. Right, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.080 But you have to, like you said, fulfill your duties, right, Yeah, 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.440 you have to be a good priest or good laborer 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:03.320 um or a good leader or whatever. Um. And the 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:08.560 one of the I guess aspects of Hindu karma is 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:15.120 that it's a universal law that's independent of God or 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.960 any of their gods. They have a pantheon obviously, um. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.360 But none of their gods can mess with karma. It's 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.720 it's its own thing. So a god can't be like, Oh, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.320 I'm gonna smack you down with some karma because you 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.960 irked me so bad. They can't do it, right, And 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.360 I don't know. I didn't I didn't notice whether or 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:34.319 not the gods are subject to karma. But um, I 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.120 would assume probably because it's a it's a natural law, 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:43.199 but they're subject to it as well. Possibly humans definitely are, 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.760 and gods can't mess with it. Right, that makes sense. Yeah, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.080 you're explaining this to me Buddhism. Well, hold on, there's 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.720 three Let me just say, there's three types of karma 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.520 in Hindu The stuff you do here in this life 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.920 does not affect this life. It's goes in store for 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.080 the next life or another life down the down the way, right, 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.199 So you have three kinds of karma. You have parada, 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:16.240 which is karma that you've experienced during your present life. 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.040 But it's from a past life, yes, but you're it's 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.160 you're going through right now. You're you're born with a 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.959 club foot. You did something in another life. This is 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.599 the idea behind karma. Um. There's sancta, which is the 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.440 store of karma that you have coming in future lives. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.360 But it's not come to fruition. As they say. You 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.240 got a safe deposit box chock full of whatever your 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.320 deeds are, right, but you hope that through good actions 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.559 in this life you can cut down on that store 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:51.880 necessarily um, and then the the present um karma that 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.640 you're sewing that's going to come to fruition will be 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.679 added to that store is called agaman. That's like the 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.240 stuff you're doing now, does that go into the storage 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:06.520 when you die? I don't know, Okay, I shouldn't have 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.280 that's that then it's all right, okay, But that's that's 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:17.520 Hindu karma alright. Buddhist karma believes They believe that the 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:23.160 soul accumulates karma and that it carries over to the 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.560 next life. Right, it makes this very cool, But there's 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.880 no soul in Buddhism. It's your karma. That that links 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.160 one life to the next, right right. They don't believe 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.079 in a soul like we think of a soul, no 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.679 here in the West. But the karma that you generate, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.439 that you have when you die makes it to your 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.079 next life and becomes I think that just the coolest 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:51.520 three words ever. Nirvana. No, that's one word, the cool nirvana. No, 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.240 it's too okay. Germ of consciousness, yes, yes, I think 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:01.719 that's really awesome, Like that's informs what you do in 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.080 this life. Yeah, the vignana, I believe it's what they 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.320 call it. But it's not your soul transmigrating from one 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.439 life to the next, reincarnation, but it is a form 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.360 of reincarnation, yes, And the soul consists of the five 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:22.240 skandas uh sensation, body sensations, perceptions, impulses, and consciousness. But 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.280 that's not the same as the germ of consciousness right right, Okay, yeah, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.040 all of them, all of the karma combined becomes the 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.560 germ of consciousness in the next life. Right in. Buddhists 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.120 like Hindus want to break the cycle of sam Sara 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.839 to ultimately reach Nirvana via the Middle Way or the 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.280 eight full Path, which we already talked about in reincarnation 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.839 as well. Right, See is this confusing to me? Like? 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.160 Am I weird? Because it's confusing? Not really? I mean 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.320 if you think about it, you can, really you can 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.240 break all of these beliefs down to this. You your 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:01.240 actions have consequences, Yeah, I get that part. And good 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:06.000 deeds will get you closer to not having these sticky 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.760 consequences from past lives any longer. At the very least, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.920 you won't generate new stuff. And in most of these beliefs, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.400 you can eventually shed all this or get rid of 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:20.440 it through either just time, good deeds, or the intervention 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.920 of God, depending on what your religion is. Right, Because 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.079 it's the same in Seekhis m they also want to 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.760 The whole goal is to exit the chain of reincarnation 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.920 once again. Right. Basically everybody thinks earth is just terrible, right, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:39.160 so um, the the Buddhists, um, well, Buddha himself came 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.319 up with some pretty good thoughts on karma. He had 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.839 this famous quote saying we are the heirs of our 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.439 own actions, right. Um, But he was really big on 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:54.160 contradicting the idea that everything from our past lives informed 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.719 everything in our current lives and therefore we weren't. Um, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.800 there's no such thing as free. Well, right, that's a 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.440 big sticky part of karma is that, depending on how 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.280 you look at it, where it's just completely fatalist right 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.040 to where there's nothing we could do any differently. This 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.280 is gonna happen to us anyway. So there's no reason 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.439 to stop being a pervert or a thief in this life. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.520 And the way that that's um kind of uh, I 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.400 guess contradicted is um. That was one of his teachings 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.079 he said, He said pervert um, which stuck out to me. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.280 I know the Buddhists, the Buddha knew what pervertstory um. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.559 But uh, the way you get around that is to say, no, 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.440 stuff you're doing now you can control, and if it's bad, 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.440 it's gonna come back to bite you in your bottom 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:50.719 in the next life. And that was Buddha. Yeah, the 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.920 bite you in the bottom thing, that was I I 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.959 paraphrased him. Are we on daginism? Did I just kind 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.280 of briefly go overseeks? So should we cover that in 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:03.040 more detail? Um? Well, hold, let me tell you two 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.520 more things about Buddhis I found interesting. One is um 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:11.120 the paca is the result of karma, so karma's action, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.480 but paca is the result. So it's like, um, the 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.440 karma is to vapaca's seed is to fruit. Is an 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.400 analogy I've seen nice, right, um, and then asana is 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.280 a type of karma, a good karma. You would hope 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.240 it'd be good. It's the karma, an act of karma 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.840 that you um commit on your deathbed. Right, so maybe 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.560 you will all of your money, your possessions to like 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.320 a local orphanage or something. They Buddhists give great import 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:47.040 to um asana because it's so close to the beginning 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.280 of the next life that it's just it's more potent, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.960 I believe. And does that outweigh even the bad deeds 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.760 that you've done, Like no, can you store you know? No? 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.280 But it would be like if you're compared maybe a 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.480 bad thing you did in your six to a good 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.000 thing you did on your deathbed, if the the asana 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.680 is gonna just be, it would be bigger in scale. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.480 I guess that's the impression I have. Again, I'm not 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:14.200 Buddhist or Hindu or giant or seek so this is 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:19.120 all just outside research. I'm I'm I'm a strong member 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.280 of the Church of Josh. Okay, yeah, I am too. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:27.640 That's weird of Josh. Wow my first member. Oh you've 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:31.160 got more than one of my friend. Uh So I 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.400 mentioned Sikhis and briefly, do you have anything else on that? Yeah? 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:39.120 I thought the Siek's got kind of a short shift shrift, shrift, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:42.400 shrift in this article a little bit. Um, there's you know, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.160 plenty of stuff out there. Um, there's actually a very 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:52.360 venerable scholar, Dr Gobin seeing Mansukhanika. He's a he's a 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:58.120 learned Sikh scholar. So Dr Mansukhani took on the same 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:04.920 idea that the your acts in a previous life are 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.880 having an effect on your current life, and that fatalistic 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.120 view of like, well, there's interesting is free will? Then 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.000 he took that on and said, no, there is such 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.840 a thing as fate and it is very strong. So 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:19.000 fate will look at like a river, right, but man 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.160 can still make waves in this In this river, your 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.120 actions are like a wave or like a whirlpool. So 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.880 it's within this flowing river of fate, but you're still 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.080 having a consequence through your actions. Do good things. And 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.960 Eddie was one of the ones that used. Yeah, so 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.600 so do good things, do good acts, and you will 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:44.760 gain favor with God. Um. The that's not unique to 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.560 seek is um, I think Um. The Hindus believe that God. No, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.960 the Hindus believe God can't have anything to do with it. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.840 That the gods can't. The Sikhs say, no, God can 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.240 create or destroy karma. And so if you find favor 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.360 with God through good acts or through prayer or whatever, 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.440 um you will there will be an effect of a 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.320 loss of karmic debt. Boy, they did get the short drift. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:12.119 They totally did, and there their Their view of karma 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:17.760 is that it's the accumulation of effects of past deeds 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.480 on your character, and the character is tied to the 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:25.320 soul and so therefore the character survives death. Wow, so 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.879 you're you're you wake up in the next life with 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.720 the same character character that was assembled by your previous life. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.040 All right, I like that one. Plus, they had the 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:39.560 cool turbans uh jiinism is where we get a little 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.399 star wars e with the whole thing. This sort of 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.920 reminded me of the Midichlorians how they explained the force 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.040 in which one it was. It was one of the 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.360 newer ones. You know, they explained the forces middy clorians 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.360 in the cells, and everyone was kind of like really, yeah, 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.919 like you had to explain that. Yeah. Anyway, Giantism actually 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:04.720 believes that karma is a an actual atomic substance with 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.080 actual particles that attach itself to the jiva or your soul. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.520 And as long as your soul is burdened by karma 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.680 once again, you were trapped in that cycle of birth, 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:21.840 death and rebirth. But they believe it's a physical thing. Yeah, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.600 like a particular matter. It can't be sensed or measured 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.440 in your words, um, and I took that well, the 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.399 vibrations of your words, your thoughts, and your deeds, they 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.560 collect it, right, They attract karma, these particular matters UM. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:44.440 And Jainists UM have classified like I think, something like 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.520 a hundred and fifty eight sub types. So there's eight 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:53.439 types of karma, two main types physical, physical, and psychic. Uh, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:57.600 there's eight types and a hundred and fifty eight subtypes. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.840 And they do it to like a remarkable degree. So 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.359 like if you, um look at the number four subtype 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.320 of the body shape, Nam, you're a hunchback if you 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.960 have that kind of karma. Yeah, so like they have 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.479 it down to like that granular level. But the one 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.320 that what it reminded me of is epigenetics. House what 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.399 what do you mean? Well, they're they're saying, like karma, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.359 this particulate matter is attracted to the soul and it 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:28.200 affects its function, but it doesn't change the nature of 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:30.120 the soul in just the same way that like these 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:34.960 proteins are attached to your genes and they affect its expression, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.119 but they don't change the gene. They just change its 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:42.200 function how it functions. That weird, And they've been talking 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.639 about this for a whole Well, and Ginuts believed that 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.159 the bad deeds are more likely to stick so in 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.240 their life like sort of like you know, Hindu and Buddhist, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:58.480 they live very meagerly, don't like seek out the material things. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.560 Um obviously live a sober life and don't harm other 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.040 living things. Yeah, I think they're the ones that have 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.000 There's a sect of Jains that have little brooms giants. 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.520 They have little brooms and they like dust off before 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.920 they sit down because they don't want to accidentally kill anything. 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:20.400 YEA interesting. Yeah, I've been letting moths out like crazy. Dude, 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.120 We're under attack. Really, yeah, you should, um turn out 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:31.040 your lights. Yeah. Uh so, now can we move on 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:36.000 to karma in the West, this interesting perversion, not a 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.560 perversion just here in the West. It's become a truth, yeah, 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:44.200 half truth of Mick Karma. It's become just a buzz word, um, 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.400 meaning you know how to how to increase your luck 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:54.040 basically by doing good things, right, like tipping. Yeah, like karma, 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.200 a karma jar is a tip jar. Yeah, yeah, that's 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.000 kind of awful little bit. Well, have you ever wished 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.119 bad karma on someone? For real? Like thought that or 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:07.680 said that, you mean, like schaden fraud? No, I actually 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.879 said like, man, you've got some bad karma coming. You're 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.120 wait for that? Oh yeah yeah yeah. I used to extensively, 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.240 Like really, that was my thing. It's just so easy. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.960 You just relinquished power, like, oh well, I don't have 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.800 to do anything because carm is going to come back 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.400 or the universe is going to come back and get you. Well, 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:24.920 in a way, though, it's kind of good because it 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:29.600 means that you're not obsessed with revenge. So yeah, it 0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.720 is very good in that sense. Yeah. I had a 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.040 lady in l A that sold us a treadmill. I 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:39.159 used treadmill that Her name was Joan, and that's all 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.720 I'll give you. But we remember the first and last name. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:46.600 We still say it a yeah, was it Joan Crawford. Um, 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.520 but she sold us this. She wasn't famous. She sold 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.280 us a treadmill that um clearly did not work. When 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:54.959 we got at home, like you know, I ran out 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:56.879 under place. It was like, hey, this is cool. It 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.919 turns out after like six or eight minutes the thing 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.960 overheats and stop ops and it was just like that. 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:04.639 And we called her back and we're like, hey, you know, 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.040 we were just at your house for five minutes ago 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.720 and we bought this treadmill and it's not working. Overheats 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.240 and stops and you know, you knew this, and like 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.960 we'd like her two back or whatever. We'd like to 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.480 bring it back. And she said, I'm not a store, 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:22.320 That's what she said. And we were like really, like, 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.240 you know, you kind of known this thing didn't work, 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.680 like we just you know, you sell someone else or whatever. 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:28.640 Just we just want to make this right real quick. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:30.840 We'll be back over there in thirty minutes. And she 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.400 was like no, She's like sorry, I'm not a store. 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.080 I don't accept returns, and I wanted to take the 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.359 treadmill and get some friends and go throw it to 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.359 you said this big bay window, throw it through her 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.920 window in the middle of the night. And Emily said, 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.000 I couldn't do that, And she just said, it's probably good. 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.040 Karma will get her one day. It's it's a good way. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.000 It's a way to go. At the very least. You 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.520 can serve a lot of energy that you can use elsewhere. 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:59.760 I'm more productive things than the treadmill. Yeah. And plus 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.800 I'm mean, like accelerating or hastening karma by like burning 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.880 someone's house down, will get you in trouble. Some people 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:11.320 think that that generates bad karma for you weirdos. Uh So, 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.080 in the West, it's obviously become well, you called it 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.440 a new age. It is very new age. And what's 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.760 interesting is we can trace it back to pretty much 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.280 one person who introduced the idea, the concept of karma 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:28.080 to the West, Helena Blovotsky. Yeah, Madame Bolovotsky, Madame Bosky. Yeah. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.840 She was. She was a she was a Russian. She 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.600 was very well traveled, she was very well read. She 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.560 was also um something of a huckster during the era 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:42.320 in the UM the Northeastern United States, where you could 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.760 basically say, hey, I'm a medium. Look at this um 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.920