1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports. Should Major League Baseball 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: shorten up the season? How do we present football to 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: the audience of the future. I don't think that most 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: players understand the power that they have. The future of 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Indy car racing is looking bright. Scott Sashnik very basic 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: math here, more bidders means more money, Evan Nobody Williams. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: The team value has essentially quadruples, and the leaders in 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: the sports industry time to bring in our guest, Hal's 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: land Runner, National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman, Atlanta Braves 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: president Derek Schiller, Patriots president Jonathan Kraft. Bloomberg Business of 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello, I'm Michael barn and I'm 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Evan Novie Williams. Every week at this time plus Monday's, 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Thursdays, we explored the big money issues in 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: the world of sports. Evan. You know, Scott is a 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: busy guy and we love him dearly. So he's gonna 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: come back later on. He's gonna be here for the interview. 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Has been to talk with San Francisco forty Niners president 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Al Guido. He'll be back for that interview, but he 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: stepped out for a second, so well to him and 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: just the two of us. Man awesome looking forward to 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: Uh first, let's get into this week's topics, and let's 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: start with Sean Miller. And it's kind of a downer 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: involving Arizona. Um, according to what reports are saying, he 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: had paid ten grand per month, yeah, per month, uh 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: for uh for what's going down here with DeAndre Ayton. Yeah, 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: it's uh this this trial, this college basketball FBI trial 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: continues this week in New York City. UM. And I 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: know we're harping on this, but to me, it's kind 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: of a perfect encapsulation of where college sports, the n 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: c A, where they all exist right now. Um. A 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: couple of months ago, a year ago, in fact, you know, 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 1: last February, there came out reports that that Sean Miller 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: was paying DeAndre Eton Right. He vehemently denied it, the 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: school stood by him. He's still employed. Um. Now, over 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: the course of this trial, we've had multiple different recordings 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: in which people have said Sean Miller was paying DeAndre eyten, 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: including most recently this week one of his former assistants, 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Book Richardson. So this is beyond just uh, Christian Dawkins. 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: The the the agent who the aspiring agent. This is 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: one of Sean Miller's own assistants on a wire tap 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: talking about the ten thousand dollars per month that Sean 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Miller was paying DeAndre Ayton. Um. It makes it begs 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: the question, at what point does Arizona step in here? Right? 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: It's becoming less and less plausible that everyone around this 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: thing is lying about his involvement and that he's the 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: only one telling the truth. It really makes you wonder 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: what more Arizona needs before they step in. I should 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: add that this wire tap is from almost two years ago. Yeah, 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: so this is a while ago. DeAndre Ayton played just 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: one year at Arizona, then was the number one overall 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: pick in the NBA draft. UM, and Sean Miller's again 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: not the only coach involved here, Right. Will Wade, the 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: head coach at l s U who was suspended for 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: l s use run through the n c A tournament. 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: He was reinstated recently because he has repeatedly denied any 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: involvement in paying players. He is also you know, his 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: name comes up on these wire taps as well as 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: someone who was who had direct knowledge of of payers 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: players being paid. Um. There was a good column in 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Yahoo recently about how you know, you look at this 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: trial which is essentially exposing the ugly underbelly of college basketball. 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: There are not no A d s that are attending 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: this thing. No n ci A executives have been in 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: the in the courtroom for them. Um. It really feels 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: as though the powers that be, UH Conference commissioners athletic 66 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: directors are just kind of sticking their fingers in their 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: ears for this. I hate to sound like Humphrey Bogart 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: in Casablanca about the schools, but you know, all of 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, there's gambling going on in this establishment. I'm shocked. 70 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: So I just wonder really quickly, Uh, how much do 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: you think the schools knew about this? Yeah? I mean 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I it seems clear to me that, you know, assistant 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: coaches obviously and also head coaches were complicit in you know, 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: what is you know, a problem that goes a lot deeper, 75 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: I think than just the schools that we have known here. Um. 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: But again, it really makes you, you know, in this 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: in these trials, the schools are the victims, you know, 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: and it becomes harder and harder to accept the fact 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: that that that the schools are the victims. The more 80 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: you understand that the people, some of the highest paid 81 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: or even in some cases the highest paid employee at 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: those schools has a hand in in orchestrating at all. 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Another downer of a story, Justin Camil stop Uh. He 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: was with the A T P. Uh and now it 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: looks like he is going to step down. Yeah. So 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: this comes a week after he pled no contest to 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: to felony battery charges from a pretty you know, brutal 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: violent assault. Last Halloween. He beat up a man, his 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: ex wife's friend in front of his pregnant wife and 90 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: his kids. Um, it's not the first time that that 91 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Justin has, you know, kind of run into some some 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: violent accusations. But for people who are out there who 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: don't know, he was a former professional tennis player. He's 94 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: not a huge name, but he's very influential in the 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: tennis world. He was one of the re player representatives 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: on the ADP Board. He manages Lindsay Davenport. He's a 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, a coach advisor to tow a TP player 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: John Isner. He has a production company called Without Limits 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: that is still under contract with the A T P 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: and U S t A to create content for them. Um. 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: So he is an influential figure within the tennis world. 102 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: He's also a tennis channel commentator. One thing I thought 103 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: was interesting, Michael, you know, we we heard players speak out. 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I think for one of the first times the tennis 105 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: world doesn't have a union. Oftentimes it's rare to have 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: players speaking out on issues like this. Uh Stan Warinka, 107 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the Swiss champion, you know he he came out and said, listen, 108 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: he's been convicted of violent assault Justin has. It simply 109 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: cannot be possible for anyone to condone this type of 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: behavior and worse supported players need to speak out. Moving 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: on now to and another happy topic is uplifting On 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: a Thursday, Major League Baseball and the attendance is down. 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: And this one I do not understand. When was the 114 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: last baseball game you went to? Well, not see I 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: was in Detroit, but I wanted to see the Tigers play, 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: but just to go out to the park. It's been 117 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, So you are a rarity right now. 118 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Just just a USA today ran the numbers and I'll 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: give one to highlight at the San Francisco Giants, one 120 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: of the best teams in Baseball over the past decade 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: or so. Um, they're averaging fewer fans at games in 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: March and April this year versus last year. We we've 123 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: talked a bit on this show about you know that 124 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: this accusation that a lot of fewer and fewer teams 125 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: are trying to win than they have in the past. Well, 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers right now, there may 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: be something born out that fans are not as excited 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: about a lot of these teams as maybe they have 129 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: been in years past. Now for this week's interview, Al Guido. 130 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: He is the president of the San Francisco forty nine 131 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: and overseas all key business initiatives for the team. We 132 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: also concurrently serves as the CEO and co managing partner 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: of Elevate Sports Ventures. How about that for two jobs 134 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: simultaneous at the same time and all good running a 135 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: company that consults for sports teams and enterprises all around 136 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: the world. I wonder if I could get a moonlight 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: gig like that here man no uh. He launched by 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: the way, Elevate in It works to bring comprehensive business 139 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: solutions to the sports and entertainment industry that identify new 140 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: revenue opportunities and bring new initiative ideas to market. Oh 141 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: look who's coming back, Scott justin, just in time, and 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Al is here face to face in the building in 143 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: the studio, big friend of the program. Thanks so much 144 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: for joining us. Thanks for having me here of course. 145 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: Well news earlier this week, your tie up with your 146 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Elevate hat on your tie up with the XFL. Yep. 147 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: Everyone keeps telling me who's associated with the product, that 148 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: there's a need to desire, a want for more football. 149 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: What's the data analytics behind? Tell me who wants this football? 150 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Who is it? And what do they want? You know, 151 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Vince mcmahonston obviously a lot of research here when he 152 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: hired Oliver. I sat down with Oliver about a year 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: ago over former guest on the program, former guest and 154 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: uh friend obviously being in the area with my day 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: job at President of San Francisco for now. By the way, 156 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: do the Niners care that you do? Like you're not 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: working Niners? Right? If I'm Jed Yorkers, is anybody in 158 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Niner lands saying wait, should now focus on us? So 159 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: he invested in Elevation, all right? So there you bumped 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: up about it? No, I think that. Look, I think 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: the research will show there's thirty five to forty million 162 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: fans and they're clamoring for more football. Now what does 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that look like? Is TBD, And I think that Oliver 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: the second go around, I think Oliver has done an 165 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: amazing job thinking about how they might reimagine change the 166 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: game in ways but keep the fundamentals there, which you 167 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: called me a little little bit about that. I've heard 168 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: that reimagined like, but is it? Are we talking tweaks? 169 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Are we talking revolutionary changes? What does a reimagined football 170 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: look like? I think tweaks is probably the better way 171 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: to cut it. So you know, if you watch the 172 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Spring League or if you follow their social content, where 173 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: they might place camera is where they might place microphones. Obviously, 174 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: if you think about what what what the p g 175 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: A has become right with the ball tracer and all 176 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: of those things which made it easier to watch what 177 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: it might look like in a media component. They're trying 178 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: to shorten the game. Um, given we all trying to 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: shorten the game, the NFL is trying to shorten the 180 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: game a little bit on the broadcast side. So I 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: think off the field, knowing that it's a you know, 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: a single entity, and that all the eight leagues. How 183 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: we auld elevate might think through fan access could be interesting. Um, 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, the access to the team, the access to 185 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: the coach, et cetera. And so you know, Scotty, what 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: I would tell you is, nothing's been decided. But the 187 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: biggest part is, let's not take away from the core 188 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: elements of the game, but those things that could be 189 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: enhanced via technology, via sports science, via the way that 190 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: it's distributed on media. Um, that all is in discussion 191 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: around how they do that. Obviously there's no significant rollout today, 192 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: but I would tell anybody that's XFL fan check out 193 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: their social medi media page and what they did down 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: at the spring league. It's pretty cool stuff. You led 195 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: me right into the follow up, the part I'm dying 196 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: to see any sports league. I want the biometrics on 197 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: my screen. I want to know what is Tom Brady's 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: heart beat on that final drive of the Super Bowl 199 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: versus the defense, versus other other folks. I want to 200 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: see the hit impact. We can measure those things. Is 201 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: that something we might see. Is that a possibility for 202 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: this league, because that is something I know my friends 203 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: like the folks I talked to would love to see that, absolutely, 204 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: And I think, look that stuff is being measured today 205 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean we're just not shared, just 206 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: not shared. And so even if you go through the 207 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: helmet cam, you know, they they put a helmet cam 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: on all the quarterbacks in the XFL at the Spring league. 209 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: Take a look at what Tom Brady sees, right, I 210 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: mean we see it on TV from one angle. Then 211 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: we probably might see it from an end zone angle 212 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: if you're if you go back and watch the All 213 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: twenty two film right from the end zone. But the 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: fan doesn't see that, why shouldn't they? And you know, 215 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: if you think about the original XFL with the head 216 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: camera that got actually put into the NFL and what 217 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: that changed around the huddle. And so my thing is 218 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: whatever they can do to bring the fans, especially the 219 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: fan that's either watching at home or streaming online or 220 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever they can do to bring them 221 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: closer to the action, whether that's a hit, whether that's 222 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: sports science, whether that's miles per hours, as far as 223 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: how fast it guys watching. To me, that's really what 224 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: fans are clamoring for right now. More data, more access, 225 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: different viewpoints, and I think you'll see that the XFL 226 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: it is always going to be compared. I think in 227 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the beginning to the a F. I think that's just 228 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: the nature of being another spring football league that's popping up. 229 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: And one of the big differences that I see kind 230 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: of in the structure of the two leagues. A F 231 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: went to cities that were not NFL cities, right, Birmingham, Memphis, 232 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: San Diego. The XFL seems to be taking the totally 233 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: different tact, right. I think almost all, all but one 234 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: of the XFL cities are cities that have NFL teams 235 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: as the person kind of in charge of selling tickets 236 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: in those markets. Is that a benefit? Is it easy 237 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: year to sell football to two fans that have a 238 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: local other football team or is it is it harder 239 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: in those markets? I think it's a benefit overall. There's 240 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: no question in some of the markets, um one might 241 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: argue that they're saturated, and so we have to do 242 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: a really good job thinking about our value proposition. There's 243 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: a couple of different benefits in my you know the 244 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: way that I see it. One, you have built in 245 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: fan bases and databases that care about football in most 246 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: of these markets. Two, I think when you look at 247 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the original XFL, in this XFL outside of the football world, 248 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: the other big benefit is the built in w w 249 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: E fan base, right, and they're clamoring for a product, right. 250 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: A lot of the support in the original XFL, they 251 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: had tremendous attendance numbers, and if you think about it, 252 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: a lot of it was the crossover a w W 253 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: E fan that wanted to check out something that Vince 254 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: had done. And so if you combine those two databases 255 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: alongside of just traditional football fans and each one of 256 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: those markets, I think this one's more suited than any other. 257 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: Spring lead next come on board, given the infrastructure in 258 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: place today and obviously what Vince's parent company does on 259 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: a day to day basis. So I feel like that's 260 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: an advantage to us. But some of these markets are busy, 261 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: and we got to do a good job in those 262 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: busy markets standing out. We had Tom Dundon on the 263 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: podcast a couple of weeks ago. He was, you know, 264 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: clear back when the a F was operational, that he 265 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: wanted to deal with the NFL in some capacity, um, 266 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: either a partnership where practice squad players can come down 267 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: taking the elevat hat off and putting the forty Niners 268 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: had on real quick? How do you feel as an 269 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: NFL president about the idea of maybe having a partnership 270 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: with another professional sports league where you know, practice squad 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: players can come down. Is that is that a benefit 272 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to you? Guys? Got to send all the practice squad 273 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: players to alban Yeah, get all the practice squad players. 274 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: I think it could be. I mean it it materialized 275 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit in in the a F, Like even 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: the San Francisco four nurs we signed a guy that 277 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: played in the a F and so, yeah, if you're 278 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: a football fan, right, we all know the stories. Obviously 279 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady be in a sixth round pick, but the 280 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner story right the Arena Football League, if he 281 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: never plays in that league, does he ever go on 282 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: to become a Hall of Famer? I don't know, And 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: so I think about it in Look, there's a lot 284 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: of discussion points to have, and this is where Oliver 285 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: luck is going to come into it. Do they sign 286 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: college players? Right? Do they take practice squad guys? You 287 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: know who? Do they draft in the upcoming draft? For 288 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: all these teams? But as an NFL team, president. I 289 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: think that putting guys on tape and giving him an 290 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: opportunity is a good thing. And I know I speak 291 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: for John Lynch and our GM. We don't get a 292 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to watch these guys after they leave college. 293 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys make a tremendous amount 294 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: of impact on your roster. I mean, our roster in 295 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: general has guys that went undrafted. We have a wide 296 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: receiver coach with Wes Welker that went undrafted and so 297 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, if he never got a chance to be 298 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent or maybe play in another league, 299 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: do you ever find him? And that's where I think 300 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the storylines come into play around following these guys. England 301 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have a problem finding those guys. No, No, they 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: do a great job. We're talking to the president of 303 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners, Al Guido, and by the way, 304 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: uh my wife is mad at me because as well. 305 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: She she said, you know, she said, well are you 306 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: get interview for for the show? And I said, oh, 307 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: president of the forty Niners, Alguido said, oh, you weren't 308 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna tell me this, And you know I love the 309 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: forty Niners. And she talks just like that car we 310 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: have to get We've got forty niners poolballs on the table. 311 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm serious, This is you know. And there's a joke 312 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: in there somewhere too if you figure out my wife 313 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: is really mad. But anyway, one thing I wanted to 314 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: bring up, I see it might say that I want 315 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: to bring up this something about the a a F. 316 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Why do you think it failed? I think timing, maybe 317 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: business plan And then obviously the the obvious one is funding. Yeah, 318 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: if you look at the difference between the two leagues, 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: obviously this league has got a year where the runway. 320 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: It's also got somebody that's self funding it, and uh, 321 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, I know Charlie, Um, yeah, I think they 322 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: came in obviously everybody knows they come into funding problems. 323 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's honestly the major difference. As I mentioned, 324 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: there's other differences around built in data, built in fans, 325 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: the ability to distribute media. There's some uh, there's some 326 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: advantages on the w W and XFL side around how 327 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: we might think through sponsorships given the two platforms that 328 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: the a F did not have. But it all really 329 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: comes down to funding. These are capital intensive leagues rosters 330 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: that have people on them. Um is, this is not 331 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: a simple um venture back business. And so obviously Vince's 332 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: commitment changes everything. So there was no road show here. 333 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: He didn't have to go to VCS looking for money. 334 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Vince knows it's his deck. How how long is he 335 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: willing to sustain losses? And when do we flip the profitability? 336 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that answer, Scott. I mean, 337 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: obviously I sat down with Vince, briefly more with Oliver 338 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Lucke and Jeffrey Pollock, who is you know, obviously that 339 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: the president's you know, CEO of the league. We all 340 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: know it's been reported around what Vince sold or how 341 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: much he raised, etcetera. Um, you know, I don't know 342 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: the profitability or when. But what I would tell you 343 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: is he's committed to this thing, not just for a year, 344 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Let's switch over to to NFL for 345 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: a second. We're a week removed from the NFL Draft 346 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: the forty nine. His pick second took Nick Bosa out 347 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: of Ohio State. He was in the news for a 348 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: little bit leading up to the draft because he had 349 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: deleted some of his social media presence. Some support of 350 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: Trump some of his conservative political views, and one of 351 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: the reasons he gave for doing that is I might 352 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: end up in San Francisco, a fairly liberal city. In 353 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: the aftermath of that pick. Have you heard from fans 354 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: positive negative either way? What's what's kind of been the 355 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: reaction there? Everything's been really positive. I think Nick did 356 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: a nice job talking about some of the mistakes he made. 357 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I I think fans generally understand these 358 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: are still kids, right, and I yeah, I mean I 359 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: was joking with my wife like if you gave me 360 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: a social media account when I was seventeen years old. 361 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he made mistakes. He made insensitive comments 362 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: that he's now obviously apologized for, and he has a 363 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: lot to learn. And he he said something during the 364 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: press conference that struck me around San Francisco actually being 365 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: the perfect place for him to, you know, open up 366 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: right understand the diversity and inclusion and everything else. But 367 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, Um, Nick Bosa is a 368 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: tremendous you know, young human being young adult and passionate 369 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: about football, tremendous family, great pedigree. Um. He made his mistakes, 370 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: He'll learn from whole get better off the field. Our 371 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: fans couldn't be happier now that we pair Nick Bosa 372 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: with de Ford in a pass rush. I know, I'm 373 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: pumped about it. The NFL is a pretty simple league, 374 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: although it's hard. You guys who can throw the ball 375 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: and you guys who can knock those guys down, and 376 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: I think we got both of them. Are other guy 377 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: who was throwing the ball just towards a c L 378 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and Week three last year. So we're open to get 379 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: him back healthy. I don't think it's a stretch to 380 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: say that. Right now, we're playing a country more politically 381 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: divided than we have been in a long time. In 382 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: that environment, how how much do you wait or think 383 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: about a potential draft picks political leaning and how it 384 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: might mesh with the kind of the overarching fit of 385 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: your of your city. Not at all. I mean, look, 386 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean we didn't do background on the kid. Doesn't 387 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: mean we didn't bring it up and ask him the question. 388 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: But look, if we're going to get into a world 389 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: where we're not drafting Republicans or not drafting Democrats, I mean, 390 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: I the way that I think about it is, um, 391 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: he's a young kid. He had a perspective that perspective 392 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: is fine. Some of the other stuff he did I 393 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: think was a little insensitive and he needs to learn from. 394 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: But honestly, I spend no time worrying about I know 395 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: John Lynch spends no time worrying about. We worry about 396 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: the kid himself, not necessarily his political leanings. We are 397 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: talking to the president of the San Francisco forty nine 398 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: is Algudo. I gotta throw an Elevate Sports Ventures. Yeah, 399 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: you're right, Ceo of Elevates I called, I say, grand Pop. Yeah, 400 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: well I like that. Okay, that's better on the card. 401 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: People don't know this. Bun Al is a car enthusiasts, right. 402 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: He was telling me about your carberation. He has a 403 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: classic four four two Oldsmobile. Now what year is it 404 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: is that? Wait, doesn't, doesn't, don't The Niners played the 405 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: Classic four four two. I don't. I don't know what 406 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: that means. No, it was like the only car football joke. 407 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I could puss. That's a joke. Wait a minute, just 408 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: said that I have reached new loans. Now, fairness bars. 409 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: My father's but my mind's high. As we talked. My 410 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: my entire fan, my father, and my brother are car nuts. 411 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: My brother, who's a couple of years younger than me, 412 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: can literally tell you every motor horsepower, et cetera in 413 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: a car from the nineteen sixties. And on the thing 414 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: about that now, First of all, the thing about the 415 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: four why it's named the four four two because it 416 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: has a four speed manual transmission, four on the floor 417 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: on the floor, uh, four barrel carburetor. Now the two. Now, 418 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: this is where there's debate about the two. Some say 419 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: that it's the the traction real differential. Others say it's 420 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: because it's dual exhaust. So there's a difference between that. 421 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: That's why they called it four or for two. Thank you, 422 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Michael Barr. Okay, So you gotta sell these things. I'm curious. 423 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: It's a daunting task and you're you're coming in. Now, 424 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: where do you start? What's the first thing you do? Hiring? 425 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: So the way that we broke down this deal is twofold. Um. 426 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: We went in and pitched a centralized sort of agency. 427 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Think about it. I know, Scott, you've had these people on. 428 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: Rick Weltz has been on Scott or Neil. We pitched 429 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: a version of team marketing and business operations, which obviously 430 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: is well known in the National Basketball Association. And then 431 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: we also have local people on the ground, so we 432 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: will hire in the next ninety days call it roughly 433 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: seventy eight executives um and our thought is if we 434 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: take a centralized sales, marketing, data, analytics strategy, et cetera, 435 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: drive that down to the local teams, we put local 436 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: people there. Jeffreys hired team presidents for every single one 437 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: of these venues, so we'll have eight to ten people 438 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: on the ground and every single city along with a 439 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: centralized agency. People just don't understand it. Been like this 440 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: is what sports businesses these days list. It's it's not 441 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: the mom and pop operation that people are used to know. 442 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: It's not movie theaters anymore. I joke like, you know sports, 443 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: with movie theaters you open up your doors and people came. 444 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: And now with you know, eyeballs going every different way, 445 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: there's so much competition, not just in sports, it's how 446 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: you market. How smart we are and our partnership at 447 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: Elevate has four different partners in it. Harris Buster Sports Entertainments, 448 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: parent companies Sixers and Devils, obviously o v G, which 449 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: is tim Lye Wicky ok few group we're building arenas 450 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: all over the world, guests of the program um and 451 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: then Live Nation and Ticketmaster and Live Nation. Ticketmaster coming 452 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: to play big time here because if you think about it, 453 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: obviously the platform of data and all the fans that 454 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: they have relative to content and sports, that's obviously a 455 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: big one. One last question for you. I know the 456 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: forty Niners are both an advisor and investor in Leeds, 457 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: the European soccer team. UM, I do assume you saw 458 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: what happened with Leeds this weekend Aston Villa. Yeah, so 459 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Leads playing aston Villa with a chance a win would 460 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: have guaranteed promotion to the Premier League, which is a 461 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: tremendous benefit plus million dollars um. They scored a goal 462 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: that was a little controversial from a sportsmanship standpoint. I 463 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: won't go into all the detailed listeners can look up 464 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: the video and then let aston Villa essentially walk down 465 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: the field uncontested and equalized. They ended up tying. They 466 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: did not secure promotion. As an owner of that franchise 467 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: with a hundred million dollars on the line, how do 468 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: you feel about the sportsmanship decision to to let them 469 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: equalizes there? I feel fine about it. Obviously in the moment, 470 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: it's not really sure of it is. I think most 471 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: likely we were headed to the playoff, not automatic promotion. 472 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: So maybe if we were automatic promotion, I might have 473 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: a different answer. But um no, I'm luck leads us 474 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: had a good year. We're gonna be in the playoff. 475 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, all right. Alguido, President San Francisco 476 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: forty nine is Grandpool by Elevated Sports Ventures. Thanks so 477 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: much for coming on in. Thank you, sir, Thank you. 478 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: That was our interview with the San Francisco forty Niners 479 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: President Al Guido. Good old Scott, you know, too busy, 480 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: you know to hang out with us for takeaways and 481 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: number of the week. You know, he just comes in, 482 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, we got the cool guest and then he's 483 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: out of here. So all right, fine, be that way. 484 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: So we're baben and I will handle the takeaways. I 485 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: know he's a car enthusiast, Yes, the four or four 486 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: two and I love it. But uh, the thing that 487 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm impressed about him is that, like you said earlier, 488 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: he's doing two things, you know, the concurrent jobs, two 489 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: very important jobs handling the forty niners and then handling 490 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: his business. Forgive the pun. The man is handling his business, 491 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. Absolutely, And you heard 492 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: him say, you know that the Jedi or the Foreigners 493 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: ownership group are involved and elevate, you know, So they're 494 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: they're they're they're benefiting from the work that he's doing. 495 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: My takeaway, as we talk, you know a lot about 496 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: the future of what sports leagues look like. XFL has 497 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: a tremendous opportunity here right to to kind of redefine 498 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: and reshape in its own way what a modern sports 499 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: league looks like from a tech standpoint. From as you 500 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: heard him say, you know bio, you know the heart 501 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: rate monitors, you know, whatever it is. They can reshape 502 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: what a sports league looks like from the ground up 503 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: right now. We heard that, and here's my caution. We 504 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: heard that with the a F. Right. The folks at 505 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: the a F said the same thing. You know, we 506 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: have a chance to build it from the ground up. 507 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna do some innovative things, We're gonna do some 508 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: fun things with gambling in tech. Um. In the end, 509 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel as though the a F was all 510 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: that different than what we see right now. From the bigger, 511 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: more traditional sports leagues. So the challenge right now for 512 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: the XFL can they do something that is actually different, 513 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: that is actually innovative. And I'm looking forward to seeing 514 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: if it happens. That's it feels better to be number 515 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: one than number five a number because of Mike, we 516 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: have a chance to go for three in a row. 517 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: Good numbers of a good time. When I first started 518 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: wearing the number, I would just happy in Floomberg Business 519 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: of Sports, the number of the week time now for 520 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the number of the week. The number is two hundred 521 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: fifty four. Two hundred and fifty four. Is that dollars? 522 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: That dollars or just registrate? Okay? That is the amount 523 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: of people that watched the Tampa Bay Rays and the 524 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals earlier this week. So wrong, Um take 525 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: another crack yet? Oh man? Um? Two fifty four the 526 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: miles average miles per hour for Joey Lgano at last 527 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: week's NASCAR race. Well, he did go to the White 528 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: House and he did get the nod from the President 529 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: several days ago. But that's not the number. Okay, give 530 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: it to the two D I use one phrase, Mr irrelevant, 531 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant, that's the that's the number of the pick 532 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: for the final guy in the NFL. P Wilson. What 533 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: position does he play? Do we have any information on 534 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: he is going to be joining? He will be forgotten 535 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: brace soon. I'm assuming he went to the to the Cardinals. 536 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, he went to the Cardinals. And 537 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know what I'm trying. It looks like he's 538 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: gonna be Is he gonna be a running back? I'm 539 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: not sure. I've never heard of him, obviously, because when 540 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: we go to fifty deep, I lose out. They do 541 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: something for Mr Irrelevant, right, Yeah, I mean it's like you, 542 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: there's a special name for you. You obviously get the nickname. Um, 543 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: but I believe there's like a kind of a prize 544 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: involved as well. Now I'm gonna mention some names. He's 545 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: other Mr Ivan, the other Mr Irrelevance, Tim June, Justin Cunningham, 546 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: Lonnie Valentine, Kaylenry, Chad Kelly, and Trey Quinn. Remember all 547 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: these guys, all of them, they've all got their their 548 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: yellow jacket. I And you know what it's good for them? 549 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: First of all, you made the NFL. It is something 550 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: to make the NFL. If I if I'm in the 551 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: last position and I get to the league, you know, I, 552 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: Mr Irrelevant, Michael Barr I would be very happy with that. 553 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: So here's the here's the here's the other thing you 554 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: get um. Mr Irrelevant and his family are now invited 555 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: to spend a week at Newport Beach, where they enjoy 556 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: a trip to Disneyland, a golf tournament of regatta, a 557 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: roast giving advice to the new draftde and a ceremony 558 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: in awarding him. Get this the Lowesman Trophy, not the trophy, 559 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: the Losman Trophy. Now you can keep all that, or 560 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: you can go what's behind door number two? You know 561 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: I I I really wish him, will I? I? You know, 562 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: all seriousness. I I hope he's one of those guys 563 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: where you know you'll he'll just do it and knock 564 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 1: it out of the parks. I want to see him. 565 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to see him just end up like okay, 566 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and then he got cut like three weeks. We've actually 567 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: now I'm looking through the list. Here we have we've 568 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: had some fairly successful Mr Irrelevance two thousand nine. For 569 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: fantasy owners out there, Ryan suck Up Kicker, who was 570 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: that right. He went on to tie the NFL record 571 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: for the highest field goal percentage by a rookie in 572 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: his rookie season. Um, he's He's had a decent, you know, 573 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,719 Speaker 1: decent career. I'm not sure where he is right now. 574 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: Is hes still with the Titans, He's somewhere, He's still 575 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um, that's a pretty good You're picking 576 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: the final pick in the draft, you know, the guy 577 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: everybody has passed on seven times, if not more, and 578 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: you end up getting a serviceable kicker out of that. 579 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: That seems like a pretty good deal. You know. Again, 580 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: and Ryan suck Up, I've used him in my fantasy 581 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: and I have one a fantasy league with Ryan suck 582 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: Up as my kicker. The Lions have had to mr irrelevance. 583 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Can you name either of them? No? Really, Barry sand 584 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: Not Tim Tune in two thousand wide receiver at of 585 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: Webber State and Ramsey Robinson cornerback out of Alabama in 586 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: two thousand seven. Yes, I remember them very well, so 587 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: well that I don't even know they So. Best of 588 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: luck to Caleb as he uh as he fights to 589 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: make the team this year. You've been listening to Bloomberg 590 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Business of Sports. We're here each and every week for 591 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: you at the same time, plus online as a podcast 592 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: were available, you can catch that Monday's, Wednesdays and Thursdays. 593 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr on Twitter at Big Bar Sports. I'm 594 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Eben Novi Williams at nov Underscore, Williams Scott speak up 595 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: now if you don't like the handle, he can't because 596 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: he's not here. Silence, Silence, bar. Thank you very much 597 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: for joining us. Guys, Please tune in next week when 598 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: we speak with the biggest and brightest in the sports 599 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: business industry. You're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports and 600 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio around the world.