1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. If you have a dog at home, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: this might be important for you to know. Party Animal 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Dog Food is recalling two different kinds of food that 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: may be contaminated with pinto barbital. That's the same drug 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: used for the euthanasia of dogs, cats, and horses. One 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: dog that ate the food died for other dogs got sick. 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: The company sounded its alarm after a customer in Texas 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: turned over cans of two foods that had tested positive 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: for the drug. The class action suit seeks five million 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: dollars of damages. Who do you love the most beside 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: your family? Think about it. Who do you love who 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: always greets you with a big smile, who gives you 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: a hug whenever you want, never ask any questions, and 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: always happy with whatever little treat you give them? Well, 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: that gave it away. I'm talking about your pet. Right 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: now my house, we are rocking six pets. I've got 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: my cat, Cinnamon Girl, my dog Fat Boy a k A. Nitro, uh, 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: my nephew who just moved in with us, his cat 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: and dog that would be um BINGI and precious arguable 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: and then my daughter who got obsessed with guinea pigs. 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Every time I try to sneak up on her while 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: she was on iPad, I'd expect to see the worst. 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: Oh no, it was her watching endless guinea pig videos. 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: Don't worry. The same thing happened with cats two years ago. 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Hence Cinnamon. I love them and I think they love me. 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 1: So when I heard about the story we are about 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: to bring to you, I naturally was very upset. I 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: with us. I'm talking about the deaths of pets all 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: across our country from pet food. Okay, I just wanted 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: to sing in for a moment with me. Longtime friend 33 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: and colleague Laura Beverage, Karen Becker, veterinarian in the US 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: and Canada, Rodney Habib Planet Pause, huge, huge falling of 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: people regarding pet safety and pet health. Susan Thixton Truth 36 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: about pet Food website, consumer advocate for Animals and Justice, 37 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: later a lawyer that specializes and consumer class actions and 38 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: as an expert in the pet industry. You know, I 39 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: want to start with you, Laura Beverage, Um, what can 40 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: you tell me about pets allegedly dying from pet food. Yes, Nancy, 41 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I lost my beautiful girl, Dumpling in July, and her 42 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: her loss was from a pet treat. Wa wait wait, 43 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: how do you know, Dumpling? How do you know Dumpling 44 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: just didn't die of old age, Laura or some other ailment. 45 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, she couldn't tell you what was wrong. Yes, Nancy, 46 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: I had given her this treat, UM, and it was 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: one that I bought because the label said safe for 48 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: all hot alternative. Um. It just looked like and I'm 49 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: very careful with my treats, that looked like the perfect treat. 50 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: I gave it to her. UM. She chewed it for 51 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: quite a while. She was right there with me, UM, 52 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: and then UM. I noticed that the treat was gone. UM, 53 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: and I began to hear her her breath sounds change. 54 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: After she UM tried to get sick a couple of times, 55 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: so I took her. She got in the car. She 56 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: was acting like she was trying to throw up. Yes, 57 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: and we are right down the street from an emergency clinic. 58 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: She walked into the clinic. They pulled the UM treat 59 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: from her airway and handed it to me. They saved 60 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: it for me. We thought she was going to do okay, 61 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and she died about twelve hours later. She was our girl, Nancy, 62 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: So she choked on a pet trait. Um, let me 63 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: understand something, Jessica Slider, you're a lawyer who is right 64 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: now preparing a class action lawsuit representing pets. Tell me 65 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: the extent of this adain a choking Are you saying 66 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: that the problem is that a pet trait is a 67 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: choking hazard. In addition to Laura's situation, we're actually involved 68 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: in another class action against another company called Avengers and Uh, 69 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: I guess just to give you an idea of the 70 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: types of claims that we bring their usually under the 71 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: state consumer protection statutes, and they involved false advertising. And 72 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: in Laura's situation, the treat that she purchased explicitly said 73 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: that it was not raw hide, and she can tell 74 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: you what first. With raw hide, it's not easily digestible. 75 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: And also another problem that pets have is depending on 76 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: the size of what the treat is, UH, it can 77 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: cause this choking because they might just swallow a whole 78 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: instead of just chewing on it, as what happened with 79 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: Dumplin and I guess it kind of you know, going 80 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: into some of the other cases that we've we are 81 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: currently litigating a lot of the pet food that's out 82 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: there advertises itself as a premium product. You know, the 83 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: Avenger's pet food said it was human grade, and what 84 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: the issue was with that pet food is that it 85 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: was actually from a dead animal hauler. And the pet 86 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: food that some of my clients fed to their dogs 87 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: can contain the actual euthanasia drug that's used to put 88 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: animals to sleep and in human execution. Wait wait, wait, 89 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: are you saying that animal carcasses are in pet food? Yes, 90 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: anything that is not human grade U s d A 91 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: inspected is used in pet food and it's false average. 92 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I've got to write this down. I'm not understanding this, 93 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Laura Beverage. You know, I'm just a trial lawyer. You're 94 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: the pet expert, and I'm about bringing our vet Karen Beckert. 95 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: What is she saying? Laura, break it down from me 96 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: and all of our listeners here on serious sex in 97 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: What are the claims specifically, Because Laura, there can be 98 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: a million arguments whether you're right or wrong about dumpling 99 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: choking on a chew toy, okay or Patrick, but what 100 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: is she saying? What are we talking about here? Well, Nancy, 101 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: she it's it's swelled. So she's saying that when you 102 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: read a label as Dumpling's label read, it read as 103 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: an edible food. It had a calorie con tin on it, 104 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: It had products chicken, rice, it had things that makes 105 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: you think edible and not raw hide. People steer away 106 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: from raw hide. Dumplin's um products swelled in her airway 107 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: by fifty Well wait, wait, wait, wait, Laura, You're gonna 108 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: have to excuse me. This is the only way I 109 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: ever won a case. I would take each phrase and 110 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: saying autopsy report or whatever, and I would break it 111 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: down so I could totally understand it. Now I'm hearing 112 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: something new. You're saying that the treat you gave dumpling 113 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: swelled up in her airway. Okay, okay, let me And 114 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the other thing we're saying is that if it's not 115 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: human grade f d A inspected, then what is it. 116 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: We We know, Nancy, that we had one test that 117 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: tested it um as raw hide. The FDA is still 118 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: investigating and doing their own testing. It clearly was not 119 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: in edible food product as the label read. When you 120 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: look at the the edible ingredients. It clearly was not safe. 121 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: It had safe on the labels three different times. Um, 122 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: it was not even legal to sell in the state 123 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: of Georgia where I am. I found out through my 124 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: complaint that I filed with the Department of Agriculture. So 125 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: she died on an illegally sold product that we UM 126 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: will find out more about what it really was. That's 127 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: it in a nutshell, and it broke our hearts. Let 128 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: me go to h Jessica s later again before I 129 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: head back to Rodney's. Susan and Karen Jessica. The claims 130 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: that you are leveling against the pet food industry in 131 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: plane term, you claim are causing the deaths of pets 132 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: across the country and owners are none the wise or 133 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: they don't even know what happened. For instance, if Laura 134 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: hadn't gone to the emergency clinic, she would never have 135 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: known that that pet chew swelled up fifty in Dumbin's 136 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: airway and it was non edible food. Well, that's not food, 137 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: it was a non edible substance that was she gave 138 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: lovingly gave to her pet. Look, pets can't speak for themselves. 139 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: That's why we're here today. So Jessica, in simple terms, 140 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: explain to me what your allegations are. Right, So it's 141 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: exactly what you just said, Nancy, As you know as 142 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: a fellow trial attorney, the evidence that Laura and other 143 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: consumers have been able to obtain has actually been able 144 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: to allow us to bring these claims. Attorney have been 145 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: bringing these false advertising, deceptive practices at claims against pet 146 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: food companies for years, but they've never had the proof 147 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: that we now have in these situations based on people 148 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: like Laura who are actually investigating what's going on. Joining 149 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: me is Karen Becker Rodney had been and Susan thinksen 150 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: to you Rodney with Planet Pause way in on the 151 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: climbs against the pet food industry. I'm trying to understand 152 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: exactly what is being alleged. Well, Uh, Nancy first and 153 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: foremost Laura, it would not be probably the only person 154 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: in the world that would have this same situation. In fact, 155 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: I wrote a article several years ago which has been 156 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: viewed right now, I'd probably say by over a billion 157 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: people worldwide. There's over two hundred thousand comments on there, 158 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: and of those comments, there are probably uh thousands and 159 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: thousands of people that have experienced the same issue that 160 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: Laura has had through Harahide experience. Are there any concerns 161 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: about dog food, Jessica Slider, Yeah, I mean there's a 162 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of concerns. One of the biggest issues is what 163 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: we've been talking about that it's not subject to USDA inspection. 164 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Any of the you know, ingredients that are going into 165 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: the pet food are not reviewed by the government. They're 166 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: throwing dead animals in there, and youthanized animals and any 167 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of biproduct. Why would you put dead animals in 168 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: in pet food? Why would there have to be dead 169 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: animals in pet food? It's inexpensive, it's profit for the 170 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: food in pet food industry. Okay, let me understand this. 171 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Rodney Rodney had been Planet pause, are there dead animals 172 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and pet food? Well, there's a lot of things that 173 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: go into pet food and this is a massive a 174 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: yes or no yes on that. Wow. Okay, Susan thinks 175 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: in joining me with truth about pet food web site 176 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: consumer advocate for the pet Susan, I need to understand 177 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: this because I've never until Laura began telling me what 178 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: had happened to dumpling. I had never heard of any 179 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: of this. I don't want to feed fat Boy or 180 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Cinnamon or even the guinea pigs Abby and Chloe. I 181 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: don't want to feed anybody animal carcasses. Help me understand 182 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: what's happening in our our pets allegedly dying because of 183 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: unwinning consumers like me feeding them. This kind of pet 184 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: food susan absolutely nancy. They are and you use the 185 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: key word. The word is feed. Pet food is not 186 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: regulated as food. It is termed food, but pet food 187 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: is not held to any of the requirements that food is. 188 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: It is how to feed as in cattle feed, chicken feed, 189 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: stored in a barn, stored in fifty pound bags, and 190 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: fed on the ground. It is held to feed standards, 191 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: though it is termed food. On the FDA website right now, 192 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: they don't hide it. Uh. There are compliance policies, and 193 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: the FDA openly says it is acceptable for diseased animals 194 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: and animals that have died otherwise than by slaughter. It 195 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: is suitable quoting it is suitable for use in animal food. 196 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: That is a direct violation of the Federal Food, Drug 197 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: and Cosmetic Act. The Act defines food as anything consumed 198 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: by humans and animals, but FDA says, we're just not 199 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: going to enforce it with pet foods slash animal foods. UH. 200 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: Four teens states across the US also have state law 201 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: that um are very similar to the Food, Drug and 202 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Cosmetic Act. But these fourteen states have laws that are 203 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: specific two animal food slash cut food. Florida, which is 204 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: the state I'm from, is one of these states. The 205 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: state law says specifically that it would be considered adulterated 206 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: if it contains any part of a diseased animal or 207 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: an animal which has got otherwise than by slaughter. But 208 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the state of Florida does absolutely nothing to prevent this. 209 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: They turned the other way. As we were talking. I 210 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: just plugged into Google about treats or raw high treads 211 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: bad for your dog, and I looked up the latest 212 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: recalls on pet treats. I just happened to hit that one. 213 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Listen to this chicken dog treats now linked to nine 214 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: hundred complaints of chicken jerky pet treats that cause death 215 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: or illness. Nine hundred reports of death or illness UH 216 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: since November. That's what I'm reading from from tooth that 217 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: those complaints started in two thousand and seven, and to date, Nancy, 218 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: the FDA has not given consumers an answer as to 219 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: why so many dogs have died and gotten sick. Rodney 220 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: is one of those pet owners from that treat. Okay, 221 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: we don't know what is causing the illnesses and deaths. 222 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: I want to say that right now in defense of 223 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: the dog food companies. I want to pause and thank 224 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: our partner making our program possible today, and it is 225 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: link a k C Caller. Don't leave your dog out 226 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: of all the fun over the holidays. 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I mean, I'll be honest, it's all 265 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: I can do to keep the car in the middle 266 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: of the road. And what I mean by that is 267 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: to take care of the twins, to work full time, 268 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: and to do all the work really and a full 269 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: time job as a mom. I have to play guilty 270 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: to Karen Becker, you're the vet in the US and Canada. 271 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't really read the ingredients on the dog food. 272 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: Uh No, I play guilty to that. I would never 273 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: even dream of it, right, And Nancy, you are among 274 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: millions of other pet parents that not only trust the 275 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: company's producing these products, but of course when you take 276 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: your blessed fuzzies to the veterinarian in veterinary school, we 277 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: are not taught about quality control, We're not taught about 278 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: the transparency issues going on within the pet food industry, 279 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: and most I think importantly, we're not really taught objective 280 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: veterinary nutritions. So we are as veterinarians and my profession, 281 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: we also have actually been involved, were part of those victims, 282 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: and that we were blindly trusting an industry that has 283 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: significant transparency issues. Significant and this feed versus food issue 284 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: is just the tip of the icebergs. So the frustration 285 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: for veterinarians, of course, is that we are responsible for 286 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: partnering with pet parents in terms of making sure that 287 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: we are taking care of our patients to the best 288 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: of our ability. But part of that means extending trust 289 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: to companies that are not being transparent. But not only 290 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: the raw materials going into the pet foods um But 291 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: you asked a great question, how did use that n 292 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: asia solution get into food and treat? That begs the 293 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: question of what dead animals that were youthanized? So what 294 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: animals do we use? And eye we euthan eyes um 295 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: we humanely uh overdosed with sodium pina barbital beloved pets 296 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: so that they don't have to die in egg and 297 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 1: all death. So animals that are euthanized, of course, are 298 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: filled with drugs that should never get into the food chain. 299 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: And yet we know that there are drug residues of 300 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: animals that have died of euthanasia, which then the question is, well, 301 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: what what animals? What animals hold on I've got an update. 302 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: The chicken cheese, the chicken jerky. That chicken jerky was 303 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: made in China. Okay, so I don't know what regulations 304 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: they have in China. The FDA website will have a 305 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: list of recalls. You can go to FDA dot gov. 306 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: There's a cab for animals slash of that Mirria, I believe, 307 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: and on the right hand side of the page will 308 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: be a link for recalls. However, consumers are not going 309 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: to find out if there are any deaths related to 310 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: a pet food, how many illnesses have been related to 311 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: a pet food. They would literally have to file freedom 312 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: of information that request for each and every product and 313 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: keep following those requests. And that's whether FDA will actually 314 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: give you accurate information. Rodney had been Planet Pause. The 315 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: allegations that justicas later it's about about to bring in 316 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: a class action lawsuit include illness and death, illness and 317 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: death of our pets because of what Rodney, Well, this 318 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: is a long series of events there, and I have 319 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: a pet myself who is of our kidneys are gone 320 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: from those exact chicken jerkey strips that you're talking about, 321 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: highlighting that they're made in China and we don't know 322 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: that as pet parents. In fact, on the package just 323 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: says assembled or put together or just distributed in the 324 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: United States. To play on words for the average consumer. 325 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: But to go back and to talk about what Jessica 326 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: is bringing to the limelight, we have so many issues 327 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: right now circulating within pet food. We have research and 328 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: studies around the world popping up things like high levels 329 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: bp A that are being found in let's say, cans 330 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: of pet food because of the seal and the glue. 331 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: We're finding ink from the pet food which is making 332 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: its way into pet food, where researchers right now in 333 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Europe have showed that it's decreased the sterility of animals 334 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: by two percent globally. Because of these issues that are 335 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: that are surmounting in the pet foods, you have applatoxins 336 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: that are coming in from the grain of the grain 337 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: industry now in the United States, and these aplatoxin levels 338 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: that Susan herself has funded studies and found that these 339 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: levels are way beyond the legal limits. And so when 340 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: you're bringing these things in, these dyes that are in 341 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: the food today. We're looking at any bag of food 342 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: that you go out there and get, it's full of 343 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: calm or what are those colors? You're looking at red 344 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: number forty, you're looking at blue and yellow dyes, and 345 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: these guys are known carcinogens today. The problem is they'll 346 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: tell you that a small dose isn't an issue, but 347 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: what happens when an animal is consuming that over an 348 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: extended period of time? And these are things that I 349 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: believe Jessica and the rest of the pet parents in 350 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: the world, they really want to know why this is happening. Well, 351 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: rumors about the remains of dead cats and dogs being 352 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: put into pet food have been floating around out there 353 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: for I would say twenty years, but proof of this 354 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: is still sketchy to some would argue non existent. To 355 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: Jessica Slater, what proof do you have that makes you 356 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: think there are rendered carcasses in pet food? So in 357 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: our Avengers class action to my clients fed their pets 358 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: this Avinger's product that was supposed to be human grade, 359 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: and within less than fifteen minutes they started acting disoriented, 360 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: almost intoxicated, and they were rushed to an emergency vet, 361 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: and one of the dogs ended up dying because it 362 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: was so close in connection to them eating the food. 363 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: There was a necropsy done of the animal that died, 364 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: and in that necropsy, which also the FDA was involved 365 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: with and sent off for testing the stomach contents, they 366 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: actually the scientists a toxicologists found this euthanasia drug in 367 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: the dog's stomach contents, and then it led to testing 368 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: the cans and testing the food, and both of those 369 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: came back positive for this pent barbite hall, which is 370 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: the euthanasia drug. So, I mean, I don't know about you, Nancy, 371 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: but that seems like it's pretty clear evidence that that's 372 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: what's going on. There are only no federal enforcement of 373 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: standards for the content of pet food. Now. The FDA, 374 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: as we were told earlier, technically has authority, but the 375 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: agency has really passed this off to non governmental organizations 376 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and partnerships that really encourage voluntary compliance. Um, you know, 377 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: back to you, Laura Beverage, what makes you believe that 378 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: animal carcasses, dies, and so forth are in our pet 379 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: food and it's actually making dogs sick, pets sick and 380 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: pass away across the country. Nancy, What I learned, unfortunately, 381 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: and what I continue to learn, and it's so upsetting 382 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: every day, is that labels are not what you think. 383 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: I am in the human health side. When I read 384 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: a label on something, I believe that label. When I 385 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: read the label for the product that that took our 386 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: precious dumpling from us UM, I realized through a lot 387 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: of hard work that that label did not represent the 388 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: product that I bought. I would never have bought the product. 389 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: And everyday consumers are buying these products that have they 390 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: lift chicken or they lift beef by products, but when 391 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: you read the real definitions of those you realize people 392 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: don't know what they're buying. And it's happened, and another 393 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: dog has died from from the product that killed my girl, 394 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: and nothing's been done, and this is happening with so 395 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: many products. Nancy, it's you. You just can't believe. And 396 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I hate myself for not understanding that. But I'm I'm 397 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: learning and I'm going to continue to learn more. I 398 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: hope we're all going to the pet food industry has 399 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: denied these allegations for years, but reports just keep happening, 400 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: even and claims pet food companies continue to use euthanized 401 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: pets to make dog food. Is it possible? Can it happen? 402 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: We have to understand the allegations are very very serious 403 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: and if they are true, could bring down giants within 404 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: the pet food industry. So anonymous sources, people not willing 405 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: to go on the record. That's that's not helping. So, 406 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: Jessica Slater, you're bringing a lawsuit alleging what that animal 407 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: carcasses are used. What exactly are you alleging in your lawsuits? Well, 408 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: we're alleging that the pet food companies, and as I said, 409 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: this is not necessarily specific to Laura's situation, but it's 410 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: also the Avenger situation, and many others are falsely labeling 411 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: their products in order to defraud consumers like Laura, who 412 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't her fault. She did the investigation. She tried 413 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: to buy the better food, but instead ended up with 414 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: a bad product that was the same as any other 415 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: product that's not advertised as something that it's not. And 416 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: because of that, Laura and my clients in the Avengers 417 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: class action lost their pets or their pets were sick 418 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: became sick from eating these products. Not to mention, you know, 419 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: the economic harm of buying a product that's advertised is 420 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: something that's that's not well? Let me ask you this, 421 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Karen Becker, veterinarian both in the US and in Canada. 422 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: If you look on the back of the ingredients, you 423 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: see things like vague terms like meatmeal or um. You 424 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: don't really know what the components of the dog food are. Now, 425 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: are there actual claims, Karen Becker that pets have died 426 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: because of this? Uh? Yes, Nancy, And so you you 427 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: bring up a good point when you see something on 428 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: the back of your food label that says meat meal? 429 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: What type of meat is it? Is it? How is 430 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: it pig? Is it chicken? Is it turkey? Did it 431 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: die of natural causes in the field? Did it die 432 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: by slaughter? Was it helping when it was slaughtered? What 433 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: pieces and parts go into pet food? So, in essence, Nancy, 434 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: what's happening is the pet food industry is a beautiful 435 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: dumping ground for everything not approved for human consumption. So 436 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: things that are approved by human consumption, things approved by 437 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: USDA food inspectors go into the human food industry where 438 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: it's effectively healthfully inspected. Everything that fails inspections or all 439 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: of the pieces and parts that humans cannot eat that 440 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: goes into pet food. And that's the problem. You're not buying. 441 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: The images on the label don't portray that it is 442 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: garbage and and basically that's what they are. 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Super Beats 512 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: thank you for being our partner today with me Laura Beverage, 513 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Karen Becker, Rodney habib Susan Thixton and Jessica. Let's later. 514 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: How many animals do you believe, Jessica later, are in 515 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: the complaints that have died or been sick because of 516 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: pet food? Oh? I mean right now? We have in 517 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: our Avengers class action. Uh. I've received calls from probably 518 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: nearly sevent people that have had, you know, situations where 519 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: their dogs became sick. And obviously we know with Laura 520 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: and someone else that they were they lost their pets 521 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: to the no hyde treat I mean there's probably countless 522 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: numbers of people, which you mentioned earlier, didn't know why 523 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: their pet died, and their pet could have died from 524 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: the same thing. Like Rodney said too, we don't know 525 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: what the long term effects of some of these things 526 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: that are in the pet food is either well, I mean, 527 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: let's get real about it. Let me break it down 528 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: into regular people talk at the front of your dog 529 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: fed said, uh, this is fortified with dead dog mate. 530 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy it. I wouldn't put it in fat 531 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: boy's bowl. Pet food is made from a lot of 532 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: unusual things, and if you look at the ingredients, you 533 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: don't know. They want you to think that they are fat, healthy, 534 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: free range chickens walking around in somebody's backyard out in 535 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: the country, beautiful veggies. Um. But when you're paying fifteen 536 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: bucks for a fifteen pound bag, thank it through, thank 537 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: it through, You're not getting sirloin, all right? That's not 538 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: what is in there? What is in there? Well, that's 539 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: a great question. So what most people don't recognize about 540 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: pet food is that the majority of pet food is 541 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: inappropriate fillers, so corn, wheat, rice, soy, all of these carbohydrates, 542 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: these starches that are biologically not appropriate for carnivores, which 543 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: is what dogs and cats are. People think that there's 544 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: great quality steak or you know, really wonderful quality meats 545 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: going into those pet foods, but that's just unfortunately not 546 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: with the bulk of the pet food is made up of. 547 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: It's these rendered inappropriate, high sugar content grains that or 548 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: or potatoes that go into pet foods, and that's part 549 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: of the issue. But then of course the quality control 550 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: of not only the grains going is but also the 551 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: meat is a huge issue pertaining to to not only 552 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: impacting the health of the animals, but also the quality 553 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: and the taxis that can be included with the raw 554 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: materials going into pet foods ultimately means that there can 555 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: be acute deaths like we've seen, but also the slow, quiet, 556 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: insidious degeneration of organs as well as overall animals not 557 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: feeling well, you know, they have difficult for veterinarians to 558 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: diagnose in terms of why animals aren't thriving. But it 559 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: doesn't automatically mean the animals will die instantly once they 560 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: eat these foods, as some of these pet parents have experienced. 561 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: As veterinarians, we have the very difficult task of trying 562 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: to discern why animals just aren't doing as well as 563 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: they should be, are not living as long as their 564 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: lifespans should be dictated well. Right now, the cancer rate, 565 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: according to the people in the trenches, the veterinarians, is 566 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: one and two dogs. This is a massive issue. When 567 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: the pet owner goes to remove a bag of pet 568 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: food off the shelf and swips around the side, you 569 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: have your guaranteed analysis which make up the majority of 570 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: a bag of pet food. All always on the very 571 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: top comes protein, fats, moisture, ash. But the actual number 572 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: one source of energy, which trumps all of those that 573 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: should be on the very top is hidden and nor 574 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: has it been ever put on a bag of pet foods. 575 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: So when you have a dog with cancer and you're 576 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: told and instructed that of course sugar will fuel cancer 577 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: as a consumer, when you remove that bag off the shelf, 578 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: that number one source those high starches, those carbon hybrates 579 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: are not listed on a bag aside from an acuba 580 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: of the effect. You get a dog with a tumor 581 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: on the side of it and you feed that bag 582 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: that's over starch, you're gonna watch that thing blow up 583 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: overnight on your animal. And that is a huge problem 584 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: for today's BA owner. Under f d A rigs, only 585 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: about fifty of a cow can be sold for human consumption. Okay, 586 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: the high bones, digestive system, brain faces, utters, other quote 587 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: undesirable parts are left over. Where does that go? That 588 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: can't even go to hot dogs? Well, Nancy, here is 589 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: the to touch on what you just said about approximately 590 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: the animal that's being used. Now, if you talk to 591 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: the National Renders Association, this is our problem. In fact, 592 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: they're trying to come into the answer to what we're causing. 593 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: And the statistics that they're churning out right now on 594 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: their website would say that we slaughter ten point to 595 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: billion animals a year in America. And so if you 596 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: can only use fifty of those, and you topple that 597 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: with two billion pounds of left over scraps from the 598 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: grocery stores that are being purchased, they collect fifty six 599 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: billion pounds of raw material every year in the US 600 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: and in Canada, So you'd fill up every single major 601 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: landfill in the world in four years if you didn't 602 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: do anything with that meat. And that right now is 603 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: a massive issue that's happening not just in America but globally. 604 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: So what did the slaughterhouses do with that? A rendering 605 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: plant as a huge grinder that is filled with whatever 606 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: comes in. Some plants are choosier than others. Will some 607 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: plants take whole carcasses of disease animals, cats and dogs, 608 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: and shelters, zoo animals, road kill, expired meat. What what 609 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: is in there? And is it making your pet sick? 610 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: Is it killing your pet? That's an excellent question. Um 611 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: it would cost you a hundred dollars a year hundred 612 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: and ten and ten dollars a year to find out 613 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: the answer. All pet food ingredients are defined, and their 614 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: definitions are very different from the counter food and human 615 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: petriod chicken is different than human food chicken. Petrod beef 616 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: is different than human food beef. They each have their 617 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: own definition and those definitions are not public information. Everything 618 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: in human food is public. If that man might not 619 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: be easy for consumers to find and muddle through all 620 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: the laws, but it's out there if you want to 621 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: read it. It is not public in pet foods there 622 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: they are corporately owned by the American Association of Feed 623 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: Control Officials and copyright protected, so consumers don't even have 624 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: access to this information when they want to do the 625 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: home I will tell you that I was heartbroken. I 626 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,959 Speaker 1: didn't know what direction to go in, but I knew 627 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: I had to get to someone. I did finally find 628 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: out that the FDA has a reporting site. I reported 629 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: to the FDA. I called my Department of Agriculture. It 630 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: took hours to do these reports, and it took hours 631 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: for them to come in and do the paperwork. Um, 632 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: it's it's not easy for someone to do and a 633 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that those reports are available 634 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: to fill out the Department of Agriculture. And then realized 635 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: from my report that this product was not even legally 636 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: registered to sail in the state of Georgia, and that's 637 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: different in every state. So there there are so many 638 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 1: reasons that you need to report, both at a state 639 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: level and at the FDA level, But again, it's hard 640 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: to do. It's time consuming. The average person does not 641 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: know where to go to find out how to do 642 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: these reports, and we have to increase the education on this. 643 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Alan Deep, haven't there been 644 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: some lawsuits filed? Nancy, Yes, there are other lawsuits, including 645 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: one filed by a Texas pet owner, Wendy Black, who's 646 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: suing Party Animal, Inc. And Avenger's Dog and Cat food 647 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: company in Los Angeles court. Black is trying to have 648 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: her complaint turned into a class action lawsuit. If approved, 649 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: that means anybody who bought Party Animal organic brand dog 650 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: food in the past four years could join it. Party Animal, 651 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: by the way, is the brand. Avengers is the maker 652 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: of the product. Black lawsuit claimed she fed two varieties 653 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: of Party Animals Cocalicious canned dog food to Bianca, a 654 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: miniature Snauser. Bianca allegedly became very ill after eating it, 655 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: so Black took her to a vent and the vet 656 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: had to treat her, including giving the dog ivy fluids. 657 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: Because Black believed it was the Party Animal food that 658 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: made Bianca six, she wrote to the store where she 659 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,959 Speaker 1: bought it. Soon after that, the manufacturer called her asked 660 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: her to send the remaining cans of food to them. 661 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: She did, but she kept some of the cans which 662 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: she had tested by scientists at Texas A and M. 663 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: The lawsuit alleges those tests were positive for pinto barbatall. 664 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: That is a drug used to euthanize animals. That's right, 665 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: that was in the food. Allegedly, contrary to the label, 666 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: the dog food did not contain coconut oil as had 667 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: been advertised, And just weeks after black Party Animal recalled 668 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: two lots of its co colicious canned dog food for 669 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: possible contamination with pentop barbital, which, as I said, as 670 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: an animal euthanasia drug. Also now interestingly, Party Animal is 671 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: now suing Avengers, the maker of the dog food, because 672 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: of the alleged contamination. Laura Beverage um tell me about Dumpling, 673 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: who I'm very familiar with Nancy as as a heartbroken 674 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: um pat owner. Dumplin was the center of our household. 675 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: She protected my children. We have epilepsy in my haffle. 676 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: She was intuitive in terms of protecting one or two 677 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: of my boys. They took that away from me. I 678 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: need to know as a consumer, who's minding the store, 679 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: who is overseeing um the labels, who I pay my taxes? 680 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: My state gets gets tax money from people who by 681 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: pet products. Why are they not protecting our pets? Why 682 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: are they not overseeing the labels? Why are they not 683 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: ensuring that When I go in and buy something and 684 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: I read this, I never said raw had. I read 685 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: this as the most incredible alternative. It says the safe 686 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: raw had alternative. It says safe, safe, safe, all over 687 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: human grade. I made an educated decision and I failed her. 688 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: So I need somebody to mind the store. Laura Beverage, 689 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: Karen Becker, Rodney Habib Susan Fixton, Jessicae Later to all 690 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: of you, Thank you, Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off, 691 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,