1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: This is breaking you loose from the Bloomberg. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, I just want to do a quick check 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: on shares of Reddit. They are open, they are trading, 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: and the stock is app just shy of sixty percent 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: at its highs today was trading above almost fifty eight 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: dollars this share, So a seventy percent pop on this 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: first day of trading. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: It's settled in or it's not settling in. 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: We still have some ways to go, but right now 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: up about fifty nine percent, fifty four dollars and change 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: here if you will, so jumping after we know at 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: priced at the top of its marketed range. 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: And this is coming day two. 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: We've had two big tech IPOs that have all come 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: out of the gate incredibly strong. 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 3: And we know. 17 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: Astera right, the semiconductor related company. It's also trading higher 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: in a second day of trade. 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: So that brings me to Amy or who covers IPOs 20 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: here at Bloomberg. She's in our studio right now. 21 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 4: Amy. 22 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: If you're if you're maybe one of the bankers or 23 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: perhaps working at Reddit, and you see a sixty percent 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: pop on day one of trading, how are you feeling? 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's good obviously if you're a shareholder, but 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: are you also thinking, wait, we could have raised more 27 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: than seven hundred million dollars in. 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: The IPO, so I just want to go back to 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 5: the marketing bid I have to say. So eight Reddit 30 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: is not raising all the money, so the money that 31 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 5: it will probably gets around five hundred and fifty million 32 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 5: or so because it's also some of the employees are selling, 33 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 5: but also this is the biggest marketing event, so they 34 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 5: don't really have to go out. So essentially, for a 35 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: lot of people there's been concerned about like, oh, there 36 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 5: is a generation of redditors, and then the younger people 37 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 5: do not know it because the younger people already into 38 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 5: TikTok and other things. But this is going to introduce 39 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 5: a lot more people. 40 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: To because of the IPO. 41 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 5: Because of the IPO, but going to bankers or just 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: issue is in general, so normally people will feel left 43 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: out right leaving money on the table. But we're in 44 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: a totally not normal IPO environment right now. So anything 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 5: really anything up and having a pop to investors is 46 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: great for every Well that's. 47 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: What I was wondering. 48 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: How much of it is, like, oh my god, there's 49 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: another IPO. Finally, versus Wow, I really like this company. 50 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 5: Well it finally, it really depends on investors. And I 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: have to say the market is very concentrated in tech 52 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: at the moment, not on individuals like individual other sectors 53 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: like industrial healthcare, like, we haven't actually seen those rebounded 54 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: to the point where we've seen a whole slew of 55 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: IPOs in those sectors as well. So it's really up 56 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: to investors to decipher themselves whether they like it because 57 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 5: the momentum is there or because the fundamentals are there. 58 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, IPOs are buying 59 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: into growth, right, and growth is really about projection and 60 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: whether you actually believe in the company. So everyone has 61 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: different kind of viewpoint about that. 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Right, And I have to say that you throw AI 63 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: kind of in the AI play and the data like 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: that certainly makes it a little bit more of an 65 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: interesting story. 66 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Tim Hey, it certainly does. Man deep when you think 67 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: about comps for this company, what's a fair comp. 68 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 4: Well, Snap, Pinterest, Meta, I said, you know the fact 69 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: that Meta is trading as such a premium to the 70 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: smaller social media players. I thought that was something. 71 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Was trading against a pinterest for example. 72 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: So pinterest trades for example, at about four times ev 73 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: doo sales. Meta is close to eight times EV two sales, 74 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: and Reddit was priced right in the middle. They're thirty 75 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: four dollars equated to six times EV two sales. So 76 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: that's why I think the pop gets now it's closer too, Yeah, 77 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: dollars a share a little higher than that, Yeah, and 78 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: which is why you pay for growth, And I think 79 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: with Reddit accelerating growth in the past six months, it 80 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: just makes a strong case that they should be at 81 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: a premium multiple. 82 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: I just want to remind everybody who's watching and listening 83 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: around the Bloomberg universe that Reddit shares they are definitely 84 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: up in trading stocks up about almost fifty five percent 85 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: here in its first day of trade, trading above fifty 86 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: two dollars this year. It is the fourth largest this year. 87 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: The biggest of those listings though, that we've seen so far, 88 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: was the amur Sports one that we had in January. 89 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: And I want to go back to you because there 90 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: you are in the heart of Silicon Valley. Reddit a 91 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: company well known in the valley around for a long time. 92 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: Has there been much buzz in conversations around this company, 93 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: like Wow, this could be like Reddit's time. I'm just 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: curious what the conversations, if they've even been happening. 95 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: Yes, specifically, last night, Sequoia, which is one of the 96 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 6: biggest bench capital firms, held a really big AI event 97 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 6: called ai Assent, and they were talking about Reddit. 98 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: There. 99 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 6: They had like one hundred CEOs and founders from the 100 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 6: biggest AI companies all in one room. But again they 101 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: went back to the point of the data licensing and 102 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 6: just like man Deep said, and man Deep, I'm paraphrasing, 103 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 6: but I think you would be happy that I'm quoting you. 104 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 6: You know, Mandeep says, I bet you that Reddit will 105 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: go to the other LM builders, big and small and 106 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 6: do a deal. And I think that's the conversation that 107 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 6: a lot of the kind of tech world is having 108 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 6: out here, that Wow, Reddit's kind of got its story 109 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 6: straight and got it right, and if they can do 110 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 6: two hundred million with Google, they'll probably be able to 111 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 6: replicate that. And then the other part of it is 112 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 6: I'd just go back to like, Reddit is a part 113 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: of this town. You know, it was a y combinator 114 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 6: startup in two thousand and five. That's a you know, 115 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 6: very well known incubator here in the city. It's sold 116 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 6: in two thousand and six to Conde Nast, and it's 117 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: kind of had this kind of strange and long journey, 118 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 6: but it's still been a name in the world of 119 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 6: technology that we talked about long. Katie Greifeld should be here, 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 6: she would back me up on this. But long before 121 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 6: Wall Street bets and bets and the memestock frenzy, we 122 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 6: did know about Reddit to some extent, right, So, while 123 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 6: I've been saying that the kind of global audience for 124 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 6: Reddit might not be there yet, it is well known 125 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 6: to those in the technology community at least. 126 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 127 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: At the same time, ed, it is on a fully 128 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: diluted basis evaluation right now, just shy of ten billion 129 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: dollars on it, Yes, just shy, just shy. But in 130 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: terms of market cap right now about eight point two 131 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Talk to me a little bit about the 132 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: what happened a few years ago when they raise money 133 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: at a ten billion dollar valuation, because we're still not 134 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: you know now, we're still just around that point two 135 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: or three years later. 136 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 6: So in twenty twenty one, in the last private round 137 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 6: that they did, they had a ten billion dollar valuation, 138 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 6: so they're not quite there yet. You know, the cat 139 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 6: table was probably quite complicated, and I guess that you 140 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 6: could ask yourself, well, are there people on that cat 141 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 6: table who are either in or out of the money? 142 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 6: But I think we talked about this a bit earlier 143 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 6: that if you think about the last three or four years, 144 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 6: there are a number of companies that are now public 145 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 6: that chose to do down rounds, in other words, raise 146 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: money at a lower valuation than the valuation of their 147 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 6: previous round, and they did that to give themselves some upside, right. 148 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 6: You know, imagine if Reddit had retained that value and 149 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 6: you know, we're now valuing it at five billion or 150 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 6: even higher fifteen billion. But Reddit didn't have to go 151 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 6: through that process. It's just the reality of the time 152 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 6: and place that you're in. And you know, Amy will 153 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 6: know the history of this, but you know, Reddit was 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 6: going to do this in twenty twenty one, and then 155 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 6: it was going to do it in twenty twenty two, 156 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: and we've kind of been waiting a long time. And 157 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 6: twenty twenty one was this like massive USIPO year, particularly 158 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 6: for tech, where they kind of missed the boat. So 159 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: there is a part of it that's just like confidence 160 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 6: in timing. But the valuation is comparable right in this 161 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 6: moment to where it was in that last private round. 162 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: I have to say that, actually, it's very funny ed 163 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 5: you mentioned the last funding round of A Funny Guy, 164 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: because in the perspectives in cr for A Series E 165 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 5: and Series F where ten cent Contees and Sam Oltman 166 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: actually participated, we were thinking, like, yeah, for the price 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: range of thirty one dollars to thirty four dollars, like 168 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: they're going to make a loss because the average price 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: was like thirty seven or forty two dollars, So like 170 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 5: at fifty dollars right now, So they're all making money, 171 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: even the people who participated in the last round at 172 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: a valuation of ten billion dollars. 173 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: Pretty remarkable, right, it really is. 174 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Mandy, if you're if you're doing ads sales for Reddit, 175 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: how do you go out there and convince a large marketing, 176 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: a large marketer to spend money with you versus with 177 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: meta platforms which can which would tell you, hey, we 178 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: know exactly who the next buyer of your product is 179 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: going to be. 180 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. One of the trends that we are noticing with 181 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: lllms is the ad targeting will get better and better. 182 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: And you've seen that in Meta's latest results. You said LLMS, yes, 183 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: because you know what LMS give you is more persons, 184 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: large angrid models, and that's what Meta has their own 185 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: large anglid model called LAMA. I mean, others are standardizing 186 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: on GPT and Gemini will probably show up in Apple. 187 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: But the point being that you will see an expansion 188 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: in search because of LLLMS. So not only do you 189 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: ask a query, you can ask a follow up, and 190 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: when you ask a follow up, you give more information 191 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 4: to the channel you're asking the query, whether it's a 192 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: chat pot or Reddit or any Google search. And with 193 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: a follow up you have the proposition of showing even 194 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: more targeted AD. So Reddit has that engagement in terms 195 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: of the user base looking for user generated content where 196 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: you know all that is original to Reddit, and if 197 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: they can build a search platform, the ad targeting can 198 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: be huge, much better than any other platform. 199 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, I'm curious as Reddit users 200 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: start to hear that, it just seems like if I 201 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: was a Reddit user, I'm not, but it seems like 202 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: it's a platform where they wouldn't love that. 203 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: I think it's kind of their own little space that 204 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: they go into. 205 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: So I wonder if there's pushback going forward, just to 206 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: reset everybody Reddit shares up in trading their now below 207 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: fifty dollars a share. So we've seen certainly a lot 208 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: of volume, a lot of activity. Stuck still up forty 209 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: five percent in its first day of trading. The Reddit 210 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: IPO so again forty nine and change with us at Ledlow, 211 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: co host of Bloomberg Technology on Bloomberg TV, who spoke 212 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: with the Reddit coo earlier today, Amy or in the hand, 213 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: equity capital markets reporter at Bloomberg News, and man Deep 214 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Singh also with us in studio, senior tech industry analyst 215 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: at Bloomberg Intelligence. 216 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: Tim We want to add another name to this Roundtanel. 217 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we have with us the person who wrote 218 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: the book about Reddit that came out back in twenty eighteen. 219 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Back with us is Christine Logorio Chaffkin, Editor at Large 220 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: at INC Magazine, also the author of We Are the Nerds, 221 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: The Birth and Tumultuous Life of Reddit, the Internet's culture laboratory. Christine. 222 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: By the way, we should note if her last name 223 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: sounds familiar, it's because she's the wife of Bloomberg BusinessWeek's 224 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: Max Chafkin. She was at the New York Stock Exchange 225 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: a little earlier today. Right now, joining us from her 226 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: office in New York City. Christine, Welcome back to Bloomberg 227 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: Business Week a day like today. After writing a book 228 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: about the history of Reddit. What is Reddit today versus 229 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: Reddit in its early years? 230 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 7: Wow? Yeah, it's a very very different company, right. 231 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 8: I mean, you're talking about the viability of selling advertising 232 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 8: or talking about selling you know, language two large language 233 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 8: learning models and selling their basically AI companies being a 234 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 8: big customer. 235 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 7: That was unheard of ten years ago. 236 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 8: It was also unheard of for Reddit to really be 237 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 8: a mainstream news source ten years ago. It was really 238 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 8: a kind of dark corner of the Internet at that point, 239 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 8: with a lot of pornography, a lot of a lot 240 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 8: of heat speech. And it's been a remarkable journey that 241 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 8: it's been through to kind of clean up that make 242 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 8: its content modern, content moderation modern, and it's become sort 243 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 8: of a model for that. 244 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Well and such. It's a long way, it sounds. Take 245 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: us to the Exchange earlier today, you were down there, 246 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: tell us about stuff SNeW and what else the activity 247 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: was at the New York Stock Exchange as it got 248 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: ready to debut. 249 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 8: You know, I walked into the lobby of the Stock 250 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 8: Exchange and there's just a stuffed SNeW which is a 251 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 8: little round alien that is the company's avatar or mascot. 252 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 8: And I saw a security guard sort of coup at it, 253 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 8: which was very cute. But then ringing the bell on 254 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 8: the floor at nine thirty am was not CEO Steve Huffman. 255 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 8: It was a human I assume, in a like large 256 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 8: stuffed snooze suit, which I think, you know, it was 257 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 8: sort of meant to stand for every man, not a 258 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 8: dark place anymore. Huh yeah, yeah, it was very cute, 259 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 8: you know. I mean so, I think they're trying to 260 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 8: appeal to their core audience as well as investors, right, 261 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 8: they need to keep their users happy at the same 262 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 8: time as they've gained a lot more shareholders. 263 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Hey, talk to us a little bit about that balance, Christine, 264 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: because you know, it's not necessarily Reddit's not necessarily a place. 265 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: You know. 266 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: Look, there's a niche for everything on Reddit. I think 267 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: it's fair to say, but the attitude of the users 268 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: is not certainly one of one percent supportive of this 269 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: company going this route. So does how does Reddit walk 270 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: that line and keep that balance? 271 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, absolutely, users are are quite skeptical. There are 272 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 8: you know, hundreds of thousands of posts on the site 273 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 8: from users expressing skepticism. What happens when Reddit needs to 274 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 8: make more money, does it start charging us? Does it 275 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 8: start you know, does the selling of the content start 276 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 8: to become something that inhibits more speech on the site. 277 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 8: You know, there's a lot of skepticism, and it is 278 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 8: very important for Steve Hoffman and the other executives that 279 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 8: read it to listen to those sentiments and keep users happy. 280 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 8: He did say in an almost ame earlier this week 281 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 8: that you know, he does listen to users and that 282 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 8: site revolts such as the one that happened last summer 283 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 8: are very valuable to him and our learning opportunity because 284 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 8: you know, the users are the bread and butter. They 285 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 8: need to keep growing those users, to keep growing those 286 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 8: advertising money. Advertising is still their primary and they said 287 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 8: in the s one they're they're really only way of 288 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 8: making money right now. So it is it's very very important. 289 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 8: He really wants to get a rebellion users, and they 290 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 8: need to keep the site very very friendly and growing 291 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 8: point those sort of user revolts in the future. 292 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was trying to get to earlier 293 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: with Ed Lulow. I want to go back to you 294 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: or listening to Christine, but this whole idea of kind 295 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: of what this this site has been like. And I 296 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: know they've cleaned up some stuff, but I do wonder, like, 297 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: what is that balance of bringing in advertisers. Mendeep earlier 298 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: talked about their already bloated cost structure that they maybe 299 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: need to work on that, but also they need to 300 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: raise their user base. I mean, there's a lot of 301 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: things that they're going to be juggling now as a 302 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: publicly held company. 303 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 6: The notes was published twenty eighteen. I think I'm right 304 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 6: in saying, but that's like a really interesting year because 305 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: that was the year that Jen Wong joined, right, And 306 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 6: I'm sorry to keep going back to her. It's not 307 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 6: just that I interviewed her earlier, but like, I think 308 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 6: a lot of people would credit Jen Wong with operationalizing 309 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 6: Reddit and making it into a proper business. And by 310 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 6: the way, she's like a really significant shareholder more than 311 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 6: two million of the shares outstanding, more than Steve Huffman 312 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 6: as it stands, because he has a complicated comp package. 313 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: And I just wondered if you could reflect on what 314 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 6: you think the tipping point was in Reddit growing up 315 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 6: as a company a little bit because it was so 316 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 6: influenced by the community, right, you know, the moderators, moderate 317 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: Christine come on in on that. 318 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I do, I mean, I do think that 319 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 8: there was this really interesting moment when do you remember 320 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 8: back when Ellen Power is briefly CEO. 321 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: She was interim though, right, that was on an interim basis. 322 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 8: She I think everyone intended for it to last, and she, 323 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 8: you know, literally got harassed out of the role by users. 324 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 8: But what she did, this very important thing, is she 325 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 8: basically isolated and cut off or started to cut off 326 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 8: five different communities that were just full of hate speech 327 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 8: on Reddit. And it was super controversial at the time, 328 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 8: and it has since over the past decade, become a 329 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 8: thing that Reddit does all of the time. You know, 330 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 8: Reddit now has a whole set of rules and a 331 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 8: whole different structure of moderators that was influenced by that 332 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 8: very first that you know, back then, researchers found that 333 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 8: just elimiting those five communities had a really interesting trickle 334 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 8: down and eliminated it slowed hate speech throughout the entire site. 335 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 8: I mean that was I think this turning point. I 336 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 8: think hiring a more advanced salesforce, hiring chen were also 337 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 8: very important, you know, steps for the company. But it's 338 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 8: it's still you know, it's still a work in progress. 339 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 8: And any site that relies on a community of unpaid moderators, 340 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 8: you know, like Reddit does is it's going to always 341 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 8: be a battle, right redd it only has what some 342 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,119 Speaker 8: thousand employees. 343 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, everybody, just a quick check. Our roundtable discussion 344 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: will continue in a moment. But Reddit share is still 345 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: up about forty six percent here in the session. At 346 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: their highs there were almost fifty eight dollars a share, 347 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: that was a seventy percent gain on its first day 348 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: of trading. Still up, as I said, forty six percent 349 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: the stock closing, I mean stock trading forgive me just 350 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: under fifty dollars a share, So still quite a pop. 351 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: Amy or is still with us here at Bloomberg News 352 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: watches the IPO market. I mean safe to say we 353 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: still have what a couple of hours to go before 354 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: we wrap up this trading day. But right now it 355 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: looks like a pretty successful ipo. 356 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 5: Looks like it, and I'm sure that a lot of 357 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: bankers are really happy about it because given that over 358 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: the weekend it was the message was kind of like 359 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 5: confusing because it was four to five times book. When 360 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: people were seeing like four to five times book, it 361 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: was not a good book just generally, and there was 362 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: talk about like now coming into the beginning of the 363 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 5: week and then especially just before prizing, the book cover 364 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: was more than thirteen times covers. So essentially there's a 365 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 5: great ramp up and especially from long only funds, and 366 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: that's why, Yeah, it's been holding up pretty well. 367 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: You see the momentum, all right. As we said, we're 368 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: talking with Christine Lagorio. Chafkin wrote a book about Reddit, 369 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: We Are the Nerds, The Birth and tumultuous life of Reddit, 370 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: the Internet's culture laboratory. Also still with us is our 371 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: own ed La Low, co host of Bloomberg Technology, and 372 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: Amy Or who watches the IPO market here at Bloomberg. Christine, 373 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: I want to go back to you as you think 374 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: about this company, you know what it's in a you know, 375 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: they're coming public in a market where there's some really 376 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: big players out there, and I get the AI data play, 377 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: and that could be a lot of potential for them, 378 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: But what do you see is their biggest challenges going forward? 379 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: Having done this deep dive in your book into the 380 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: company and into its history, yeah. 381 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 8: I think this transition into into AI is going to 382 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 8: be challenging, both as a perception and in reality in 383 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 8: a sales reality. But let me just say that Steve 384 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 8: told me so. I did speak to Steve earlier today 385 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 8: as well, and he told me something really interesting, which 386 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 8: was that, you know, this long road that they've had 387 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 8: to IPO, they filed first and talking. 388 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: About Steve have been the CEO of the company. 389 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's got to Steve Hoffan earlier this morning, and 390 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 8: you know, he said, basically, they've been doing earnings calls 391 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 8: since then. They did five different rounds of meetings with 392 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 8: investors before they even did their roadshow. So by the 393 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 8: time they got to the road show, he said, like 394 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 8: everyone sort of knew the business so well and didn't 395 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 8: have as many questions as he expected, which you know, 396 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 8: if you know ready, you know Reddit requires some explanations. 397 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 8: So I thought that was a kind of interesting detail. 398 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 8: But I think the AI thing is very interesting and 399 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 8: it's a challenge, but it's also I mean, as AI 400 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 8: starts to shift to the Internet and the way we 401 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 8: interact with search, I have been noticing more of my 402 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 8: peers are searching, say Google, with the word reddit dot 403 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 8: com in it, so that they get a real human 404 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 8: response to their querry instead of getting an AI generated response. 405 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 8: I think you can stand to benefit from the growth 406 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 8: of AI, not just from a salesforce. 407 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Aingle, because you're arguing, Christine, that we could be desiring 408 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: something that is more human in a world that is 409 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: dominated increasingly by answers generated by AI. 410 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: Yeah. 411 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Okay, so let's talk. 412 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: A little more because Ed Ludlow spoke earlier to Gen Wong, 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: the COO of Reddit, all about the way that Reddit 414 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: could use AI as a business model in terms of 415 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: training using its content to train AI models. Christine was 416 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: even in the research that you did for your book, 417 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: which again was published in twenty eighteen, was that even 418 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: on the radar of folks that read it back then? 419 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 8: Hey, I gosh, I do not think it's nothing that 420 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 8: I talked with them about. I do have to say, 421 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 8: I mean, at that time, Sammon was still on the 422 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 8: board of Reddit, but he was and he had founded 423 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 8: chat GBT, but he was not like you know, in 424 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 8: the press about it yet and it was not working 425 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 8: on it full full time yet. 426 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 7: So no, it's something we really discussed. 427 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: All right, guys, just got about a minute and a 428 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: half left here. I want to go round Robin as 429 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: we get ready to just wrap up this hour here, 430 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: Amy or watching this IPO thirty seconds here on what 431 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: you're thinking? 432 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: I think read it went public at the right time 433 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: for the company. It might talk it might have took 434 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: it eighteen years for it, but then it became profitable 435 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, and that gave investors a lot 436 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: of confidence. 437 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: What do they always say? 438 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: It's always bad timing, right place, right time, And Ludlow, 439 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: what are you thinking? We're going to continue obviously the 440 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: coverage here on Reddit and broaden out here, but what 441 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: are you thinking here? 442 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: You've been following this one. 443 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 6: Very yeah, for the last six months to two years. 444 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: Everyone has an AI story, and I just feel like 445 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 6: Reddit got their AI story right and at the right time, 446 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 6: and it answered a lot of questions and concerns that 447 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 6: people had about the legacy advertising of call it. Legacy 448 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 6: is pretty much brand new for advertising business. And so 449 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 6: let's see where they trade any year's time. That's the 450 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: fun of the market page. 451 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: Christine, just thirty second, last thirty seconds to you. The 452 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: book is called We Are the Nerds, The Birth and 453 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: tumultuous life of Reddit, the Internet's culture laboratory. Where are 454 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: we in reddits life now? 455 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, we are entering a new chapter of reddits Lives. 456 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 7: You've have been this morning called me. 457 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 8: He's very excited to and an honored to be a 458 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: public company now. He said that, you know, looking back 459 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 8: to other great public companies, you don't even remember their 460 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 8: time as a private company. The iPhone was not made 461 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 8: by a private company. And so he's he's excited for 462 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 8: the next chapter. I think that there's a lot to 463 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 8: watch in terms of this stock to watch to see 464 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 8: if anyone takes out money, watch to see who you know, 465 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 8: who is you know who's who's buying their AI message 466 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 8: was at the right time and it is going to 467 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 8: be an interesting component toad to wrap. 468 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Amy or Ed Ludlow and Christine 469 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: Lagorio Chafkin, thank you so much. Here's a Reddit folks 470 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: at fifty percent dot closing above fifty dollars a share. 471 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: Carol Master Tim Stenevic. 472 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg,