1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: He's gonna watch down Field picked off by the Colts. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: The roster is ever evolving, and it's all about finding 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 3: the edge. 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 4: He's at the thirty thirty five forty plet's go out sideline. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 4: He's got a chance twenty ten five touchdowns. 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: This is the Last Word, the offseason home of the 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: Kick us on its way header for the up. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Parts guys. 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Ball twin Ball game. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Now here's Matt Taylor and Casey Valier. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 4: Well, welcome in to the Last Word, the off season 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: radio home of the Indianapolis Golds, airing inside the Indiana 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 4: Union Construction Industry Radio Studios every Friday evening right here 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 4: on ninety three five and one oh seven five fan. 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm Casey Valier, joined tonight by Matt Taylor. Matt, it 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: is Friday the thirteenth. It's kind of interesting that, you know, 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: Valentine's Y falls on that eerie Friday the th So 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: nothing eerie about this weekend, right. 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, you got Saturday tomorrow, the day of Love. By 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 5: the way, Happy early birthday to the Great Lara Overton. 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 5: Her birthday is February fourteenth. Okay, she's a Valentine's Day baby, 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 5: So happy early birthday, Lara. 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: I hope you have a great weekend. 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: Well yeah, happy early Birthday to Lara Overton. And as 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: we mentioned tonight, we're getting you ready for Valentine's Day 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 4: with things you'd love to see from the Colts O 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: as they head into twenty twenty six. So we'll look at, 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: you know, trying to break that five year playoff drought 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: with a little Valentine's Day theme, and then we'll also 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: get the current state of the Colts with former Colts 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: tight end and team radio analyst Charles Arbuckle. But as 34 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 4: I mentioned, Matt, we're gonna start off with a little 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: Valentine's Day related stuff, that spirit of the day of love. Tomorrow, 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: we're gonna look at what we would love to see 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: with the Colts heading into twenty twenty six to get 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: them back on track. And we're gonna start right here. 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: What would you love to see from the Colts this 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: offseason when it comes to free agency, Matt Taylor, in. 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: The off season, I would love to see I think 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: you'd love to see a deal get done with Daniel 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 5: Jones before the start of free agency. I think that 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 5: makes good Sense plays the most important spot in the 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 5: NFL and quarterback, and he showed you last year what 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 5: he can do and what he can be within this 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 5: offense when he was healthy, and I just think he's 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: the lynch pin to luring back Alec Pierce. You'd love 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 5: to see Pierce come back, either on a multi year 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: deal or on the franchise tag. That could be in play. 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: By the way, the franchise tag windows starts next week, 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: so we'll be watching out for that. And then I 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 5: would love to see more from the defensive line next year. 54 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 5: And what does that mean for the team in free agency, 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: because I do think that's the biggest mission that this 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: team has in the off season on defense is getting 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: more production and more game changing ability from your defensive 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 5: line and your edge rushers for next season. They don't 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 5: have a first round pick the Colts that is, so 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 5: how do you upgrade at that position? I think free 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 5: agency is probably the likeliest way to go with the 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 5: immediate production that you need to add to that position. 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: But again, if you signed Jones and Pierce, the question 64 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 5: then is how much money is left over. I think 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: free agency will be fascinating Casey in that regard to 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 5: see how the Colts possibly get creative with the money 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: to bring in some you know, difference makers at the 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 5: edge Russ position in free agency. 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: And that's exactly where I was going to go. Is 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: we heard Chris Ballard talk about getting younger and faster defensively, 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: and that's what I want to see because you talked 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: about it no first round pick, so in some ways, 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: I'm anxious to see how involved everything outside of just 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: a draft choice is going to be to fine tune 75 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: this this defense because you're going to I think you're 76 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: going to see a much different defense. But I'm anxious 77 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: to kind of see how that how that plays into it, 78 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: whether it is you know, more trading. So that's kind 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: of the area I'm really looking forward to kind of 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: seeing how they play with that because you talk about 81 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: it with a quarterback contract, potentially a wide receiver who's 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: going to be making a lot more than what ride 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: receivers were making four or five years ago, so that 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: money goes up as well, So how they can kind 85 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: of play all of that into it. Now our second 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: one here, Matt, this is going to be a little 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: bit more specific and what would you love to see 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: from the Colts offense next season. 89 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: Well, I'd love to see what we saw the first 90 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 5: ten weeks of this season, right right when everybody was healthy, 91 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 5: when everybody was healthy, a healthy Daniel Jones. 92 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 2: I mean, the offense was on fire. It was historically good. 93 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 5: So I would love to see all of that comeback, 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: which means you would see more of the passing game 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 5: opening up things for the running game with Jonathan Taylor. 96 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 5: I would love to see Braden Smith come back in 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: free agency. I just don't know if that's in the 98 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 5: cards considering some of the other guys you have to 99 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 5: consider when it comes to, you know, given contracts and 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 5: saying other guys and you know, you've got the emergence 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 5: of Jalen Travis, who played pretty good football at tackle 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 5: when Smith, you know, missed the final four games. 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: Of the season. 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: So I ideally i'd love to see Braden Smith come back. 105 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: But the biggest thing I want to see is just 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 5: that efficiency and the timing and the synergy of the 107 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 5: first ten games last year carry over in the next year. 108 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: So what I want to see is Jonathan Taylor get 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: rewarded for what he has done. 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: If you look at what he did last year, we 111 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: take the playoffs. 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy has been running at an incredible clip. 113 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 4: You look at his numbers since he entered the league. 114 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: I mean it's essentially him, Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, and 115 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: that's the list. I mean, those are the three guys. 116 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: And you look at Derek Henry, you look at Saquon Barkley. 117 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: Both of those guys have had a little bit more 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: of that postseason run. And I feel like Jonathan Taylor 119 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: is one of those guys that has yet to kind 120 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: of get rewarded on the biggest stage for what he 121 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: has done. He deserves to be one of those guys 122 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: that we're kind of talking about what he has done 123 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: in the playoffs because he has done so much in 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 4: the regular season. 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, for him personally, I'm right there with you. You 126 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: would love to see individually Jonathan Taylor be put on 127 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: a bigger stage. Yeah, you know, I mean you talk 128 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 5: about I mean that's where you know, legendary moments are made, 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: and that's where Hall of Fame careers are solidified. 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: And he's never had the opportunity. 131 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to beat a dead horse 132 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 5: on this, but Jonathan Taylor cannot do it all He's 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: rushed for over fourteen hundred yards three times in his 134 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: career and he's got nothing to show for it from 135 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: a playoff appearance standpoint. What he does is a byproduct 136 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: of the things around him. Not to take away from 137 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 5: his greatness, but in order for him to be really efficient, 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 5: it's Daniel Jones in that passing game that really helps him. 139 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: Now our final one here, we're gonna go. What would 141 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: you love to see for the Colts defense in twenty 142 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: twenty six? 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: Man, for the defense, let's start first and foremost. I 144 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 5: just love to see everybody stay healthy. I mean, the 145 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: Colts played a majority of last year without guys like 146 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 5: DeForest Buckner and Charvarius Ward and Sauce Gardner. I mean, 147 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 5: those were your playmakers. They built a defense around those guys, 148 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: and without them, the defense really faded down the stretch. 149 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 5: I mean in the back end, specifically Kenny Moore, Charvarius Ward, 150 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: and Sauce Gardner. They only appeared in one game together 151 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: for the entire season. 152 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 6: Wow. 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: All of last year the Colts used ten cornerbacks. Ten 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: different cornerbacks saw playing time last year for the Colts, 155 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: and then just a double back. I would love to see. 156 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 5: You know, we talked about this along the defensive line. 157 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: More disruption, more disruption up front, somehow, some way. I 158 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: would love to see Loatu Latu explode in year number three. 159 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,559 Speaker 5: I would love to see one or two other pass 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 5: rushers really emerge. It's got to be somebody other than Buckner, 161 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: because the Colts recorded they had twenty six sacks in 162 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: the eight games before Buckner went on ir they had 163 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: just thirteen sacks in the nine games after that. So, 164 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: by the way, we should also mention too. Just in 165 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 5: terms of news, the Colts have reportedly hired Marion Hobby 166 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: as their new defensive line coach, as he takes over 167 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: for Charlie Partridge, who left the team to be involved 168 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: in the Notre Dame defensive staff. So Hobby's a guy 169 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: coming over from Arkansas. Previously coached the d line under 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: Luyann Arumo with the Bengals, had that job from twenty 171 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: twenty one to twenty twenty four. So we'll see if 172 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: that can maybe give the Colts some more production and 173 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: see if it helps lure any other free agents over 174 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: to the Colts in the offseason to come play along 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: that defensive line. 176 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: Now, before we take our first break. I'm going to 177 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: dive into our rookie report brought to you by MJ Companies. 178 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: Last week, I know you guys talked about Tyler Warren, 179 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: so tonight I figured we discussed the second round pick 180 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: from last week out of Ohio or from last year 181 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: out of Ohio State, defensive end JT twoy Moolo out. 182 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 4: He played in thirteen games, had just seventeen tackles, one 184 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: tackle for lost, no sacks, two hundred and fifteen snaps 185 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: on defense, did have a role on special teams with 186 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: ninety nine special team snaps. So what kind of season 187 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: did JT produce and what do you anticipate his role 188 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 4: being for his second season here in twenty twenty six? 189 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, I mean if you look at his rookie season, 190 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 5: you know, he played behind a lot of guys in 191 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: front of him. You know, he never played more than 192 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: fifty percent of the snaps in a game. There was 193 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 5: kind of a log jam of personnel, right, I mean 194 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: the Colts had a lot too, and Quitty pay and 195 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: Samson Ebakom and Taekwon Lewis. You know, when he was healthy, 196 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 5: so you really didn't know who to take off the 197 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: field in place of JT Tuamolowaw, who's feeling his way 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: through his rookie season. I mean, those guys just had, 199 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: bottom line, more experience over him. So I mean, I 200 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: think his stat line is really not indicative of who 201 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: he is and what he can be. I thought he 202 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 5: played the run pretty well, like we said. I mean, 203 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 5: three of those guys that played in front of him 204 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 5: last year, they're free agents and they could be gone, 205 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: which could open the door for JT going forward into 206 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: a second season. I think he's destined for more playing 207 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 5: time in a bigger role. I just don't know now 208 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: in February, you know to what degree that's gonna be. 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: Right, There was a part of me that thought this 210 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: was kind of in a way that red shirt year. 211 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: If you've got like DJ Giddens, Yeah, like, hey, we 212 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: look at this guy and we think, you know, a 213 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: couple of years from now he can be a really 214 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: core piece. So let's take a chance on him now, 215 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: knowing that we already have him in the building, get 216 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 4: him in our system, and that way win that logjam, 217 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: as you talked about, with all those guys in front 218 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: of him, when they start, you know, trickle out whether 219 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: that's them leaving in free agency, it opens up that 220 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: path for him. So I think his rookie year it 221 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 4: was in some ways incomplete, but I think that was 222 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: part of the growing experience, was letting him take shape 223 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: heading into that second season upcoming here in twenty twenty six. 224 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: And that was your Rookie Update, presented by MJ Companies, 225 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: Your Future in Focus. The Last Word is brought to 226 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: you by Vivid Seats. Vivid Seats the official fan experience 227 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: partner of the Indianapolis Colts. Download the app to score 228 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 4: great deals on events that you love. Up next, we're 229 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: gonna hear from Charles R. Buckle as we continue to 230 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: talk over the Colts off season and free agency with 231 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 4: the former Colts tight end and radio analyst. And he's 232 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: gonna break down Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce as we 233 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 4: head in a free agency and what changes make sense 234 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 4: to him on this Colts defense heading into next season. 235 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: That's all coming next right here on the Last Word 236 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: ninety three five and one oh seven five. 237 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: The fan. 238 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Can't get enough football. You're in the right place. 239 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 3: This is the off season radio home of the Indianapolis Colts. 240 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: The Last Word with Matt Taylor and Casey Valier from 241 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio. 242 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: Well, welcome back to the Last Word here on ninety 243 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: three five and one oh seven five The Fan, the 244 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 4: off season radio home of the Indianapolis Colts. I am 245 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: Casey Valier, joined by Matt Taylor, and it's one of 246 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: our favorite times. We're gonna talk to him once a 247 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 4: month as we get into the off season. He was 248 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: one of our favorites all season. We had a lot 249 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 4: of fun with him joining our radio team. 250 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: Charles R. Buckle, It is time. 251 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: I'm for Matt Taylor's conversation with Charles on the buck 252 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: stops here. 253 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: We're not messing around. 254 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 6: This is when. 255 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: Football becomes football, not all that other in April and May. 256 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: Excuses won't work here. 257 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: God bless America. 258 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 6: Guys, what are we doing? 259 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: It's time for some answers. 260 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Just because they gave you a Pelman doesn't mean you 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: could play. 262 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 6: I need to see it. 263 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: It's time for the buck stops here with former Colts 264 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: tight end and analyst Charles R. 265 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: Buckle. 266 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: All right, the buck is stopping here. 267 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 5: Time to get some answers on the big Colts topics 268 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: with Charles R. 269 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: Buckle. Buck great to talk to you again, my friend. 270 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: How are you. 271 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: I'm doing well, man, how are you? 272 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic? All right? Buck. 273 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: We just saw the Seahawks win it all in the 274 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: Super Bowl and they had that dominant defense. They had 275 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 5: the offense that didn't turn the football over at all 276 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: during the postseason. So I think it kind of sends 277 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 5: a couple of different messages to different teams around the NFL. 278 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: You know, Like, for example, if I'm the Houston Texans, 279 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 5: I gotta be saying to myself, hey, we can win 280 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 5: big with how good our defense was last year. 281 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: I mean, we were every bit. 282 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 5: As good on that side of the football as the Seahawks. 283 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 5: And then maybe if you're the Colts, you're thinking to yourself, hey, 284 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 5: we can win with the right quarterback. Right quarterback resurgence 285 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: is a real thing. Sam Darnold just got it done. 286 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones last year got it done. Baker Mayfield's doing 287 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: what he's doing. But what else is it saying to 288 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 5: the Colts? How close are the Colts considering they almost 289 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 5: beat the Seahawks. They came within what forty seven seconds 290 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 5: of knocking them off on the road, with Philip Rivers. 291 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: What messages does the winning Super Bowl champion Seahawks send 292 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: to the Colts. 293 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think it does a couple of things. 294 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 7: It shows you how close but also sometimes how far 295 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 7: away you are, right, I mean you and I got 296 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 7: a chance to call that game in Seattle. Part of 297 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 7: it was the ability for Philip Rivers to figure out 298 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 7: what Seattle was doing, which is not hard. Are not easy, 299 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 7: Excuse me, Mike McDonald does a great job of disguising. 300 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 7: They got guys that can blitch you from all over 301 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 7: the place. And then if they don't blitz and they 302 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 7: don't bring heat with Witherspoon or Love or whoever's coming 303 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 7: from that back end, which I think they do an 304 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 7: outstanding job. 305 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 6: Their front four is so good. 306 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 7: And then even worry, you know a young rookie who 307 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 7: plays like ahead of his years. So I think the 308 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 7: thing that I look at from that perspective is they 309 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 7: made it look easier than it is. But I also 310 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 7: think you just hit the nail on the head. They 311 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 7: ran the ball effectively when they needed to, which the 312 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 7: Colts didn't do late in the year for whatever reason. 313 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 7: And they also protected the football. I mean, you have 314 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 7: to do that late and I think when we saw 315 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 7: the Colts start to struggle, they didn't run the ball 316 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 7: effectively and they gave the ball away. 317 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 6: That's the most important thing. 318 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 7: You have to protect the football with all costs, and 319 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 7: I think that's the part that the Colts when we 320 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 7: saw them doing so well early part of the year, 321 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 7: they protected the ball, they got after the other quarterback, 322 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 7: they made the other team turn the ball over, and 323 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 7: they were able to flip fields. So I just I 324 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 7: think you have to look at it and say, if 325 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 7: we can bottle up what we did earlier in the 326 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 7: year before though the Pittsburgh game or so, that to 327 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 7: me is what I look at to say. 328 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 6: And then down the stretch, when you had. 329 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 7: A quarterback that knows how to attack defenses like Philip 330 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 7: Rivers even for a short period of time, even though 331 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 7: he can't run anymore, but he can beat you with 332 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 7: his mind, and I think those are the things that 333 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 7: gives you encouragement. 334 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 6: But it also shows you how hard it is in 335 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: this league to win. 336 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. 337 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: Charles Arbuckle, right there, I mentioned Daniel Jones, you did 338 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: as well. 339 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: There's reports out. 340 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 5: There now that the Colts and Jones, they're going to 341 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 5: start contract negotiations before free agency begins next month, so 342 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 5: buck in your mind, I mean, how imperative is that 343 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 5: for the Colts to get something done with him sooner 344 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: than later. 345 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 7: I think it is so important because it's a domino 346 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 7: effect in my mind, because we know Alec Pearce is 347 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 7: kind of hanging there. 348 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: And if you don't get something done with Daniel Jones, 349 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 6: who do you use. 350 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 7: A franchise tag on the other concern you have, which 351 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 7: are various. 352 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 6: You know, there's so many other factors. But I think Daniel. 353 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 7: Jones says the Temple, if you can get him signed, 354 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 7: then you have options for Alec Pierce because you don't 355 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 7: want to lose him to a wide receiver. Number one 356 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 7: that he has kind of become now is going to 357 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 7: make twenty five to twenty eight million, right, So even 358 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 7: if you have to do it as a franchise haack, 359 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 7: you can keep them. 360 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 6: And you know, he kind of is loyal to the 361 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 6: Colts to a certain degree. 362 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 7: Now loyalty, Loyalty ain't loyal when it comes to dollars. 363 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, Reggie Wayne has been his coach. 364 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: He really has an affinity for Andy. He went to 365 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 7: school in Cincy. I do think Daniel Jones is the 366 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 7: domino effect. You have to get that done, and you 367 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 7: have to get it done in a good way. And 368 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 7: the Colts may be able to get a little bit 369 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 7: of a discount because he was hurt late in the 370 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 7: year and he's had some injury problems, but you're still 371 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,239 Speaker 7: going to have to pay him top dollar. 372 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: No question about that. That is Charles R. Buckle. This 373 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: is the buck stops. 374 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: Here, the former Colts tight end and Colts radio analyst 375 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 5: is with us with that buck What other in house 376 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 5: free agents for the Bolts would you prioritize after Jones 377 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 5: and Pierce? Of course, but I mean you got right 378 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: tackle Braden Smith. He's up, Moley Cox, Neville Gallimore, Nick 379 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 5: Cross as the safety on defense. Any other guys that 380 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: are up there for you? 381 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Nick Cross is one. You said his name. 382 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 7: I don't know about Braidon. I think that's the one 383 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 7: that's an X factor. Mo Aley Cox because of what 384 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 7: he can do in the blocking game. I think Neville 385 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 7: Gallimore is another guy that played just for where he 386 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 7: is and what he can do. I think he's another person. 387 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 7: I think that's really important in this whole scheme of things. 388 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 7: Jermaine Pratt, I'm not sure, just because he and I 389 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 7: are struggled a little bit that he was making he 390 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 7: was in a place where he came in. I thought 391 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 7: Jermaine Pratt really did a nice job at the linebacker position. 392 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 6: Sometimes in the. 393 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 7: Passing game they were taking advantage of and that's going 394 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 7: to be one of the things I think you have 395 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 7: to address. But he knows Lou Lou's offense, I mean defense, 396 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 7: excuse me. So those are the guys that I look 397 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 7: at that are high quality, the free agents that you 398 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 7: have to kind of look at internally for you if 399 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 7: you're the Colts. 400 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 5: All right, buck last one when it comes to the Colts, 401 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: I mean you look at this. We've been talking about 402 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 5: this now for the last couple of weeks since the 403 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: season ended, but officially across the NFL, right the offseason 404 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 5: just started because the Super Bowl just wrapped up. But 405 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 5: defensive line for the Colts an upgrade? There Where does 406 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 5: that rank for you? This offseason? Chris Baller talked about 407 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: getting or the need to possibly get younger and faster 408 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 5: on defense in certain spots, but they don't have a 409 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: first round pick, so it is defensive line kind of 410 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 5: boom or bust in free agency. 411 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: With that in mind, I. 412 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 7: Think it has to be. I mean, we see Latsu 413 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 7: Latsu on one side playing really well. I don't think 414 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 7: Quitty has done as good a job as they'd expect 415 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 7: it and some of the other guys at the edge. 416 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 7: When I looked at the Seattle team, wasn't the thing 417 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 7: that's here, And not just them, but the Texans when 418 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 7: you saw them when we were down there as well 419 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 7: in January. They have dogs on the outside. And I 420 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 7: can't say the same thing about the Colts. They didn't 421 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 7: play to the level of what you wanted them to. 422 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 7: And there's been a lot of talk about Trey Hendrickson. 423 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 7: He's available as an unrestricted free agents, Khalil mack, I 424 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 7: sign Reddick, Joey Bosa, There's some names there that have 425 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 7: production behind him. 426 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 6: So it's just a matter of what does Lou. 427 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 7: And Arumo want to do because he's done a lot 428 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 7: with Trey Hendrick Hendrickson, and Hendrickson has been a guy 429 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 7: that's had like double double digit sack years back to 430 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 7: back to back. Even though he's not young, he's still 431 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 7: one of those guys that can get after you. So 432 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 7: it's going to be interesting to see what they do 433 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 7: there and that in that place you need to you 434 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 7: need to edge guys, you need at least two sometimes 435 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 7: free and I think that's where the Colts have to 436 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 7: really help themselves because then later in the year, you 437 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 7: and I saw that. 438 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 6: You saw it even more than I did. 439 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 7: How many times could they not get off the field 440 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 7: on third down and long, you know, second and long 441 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 7: and teams were just taking advantage of him in that 442 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 7: position with no pressure and no sacks that were coming 443 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 7: up late in the year. 444 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: Man of talking ball with Charles R. Buckle. 445 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: But now we have no football, So what's up now? 446 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 5: But what's what's keeping your attention these days? Sports wise? 447 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting. I'm watching a little bit of basketball, 448 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 6: but I'm going back. 449 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 7: I've actually gone back and watched your guys play Miami, 450 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 7: you know, Miami, and I'm Championship. I'm looking at some 451 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 7: old you know, I'm just I started doing some college 452 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 7: breakdown stuff, but also was looking at, you know, a 453 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 7: lot of NFL late in the year, just trying to 454 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 7: see was there anything that the Colts missed, especially those 455 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 7: last few games where we saw the opportunity to win 456 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 7: but didn't pull it through. Those are the kind of 457 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 7: things that I started looking at now just because it 458 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 7: can help me to understand like next year or when 459 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 7: we go into the combine time, Hey, why is this 460 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: guy important? 461 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: And where can he fit in the big scheme of things, and. 462 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: Just finding ways to scratch that itch. I love it 463 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: right there. 464 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: For Charles Harbuckle, I gotta leave you with this. The 465 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: Day of Love is coming up this weekend. Saturday is 466 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: V Day. I know you're a big ball love and 467 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: thoughtfulness now, so I don't want you to spoil it, 468 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 5: but I just want to make sure you're covered. You 469 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: got something playing for your beautiful bride coming up this weekend? 470 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no. You know the thing is we used 471 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 6: to call that amateur everybody, but we will. We always 472 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 6: do something nice for each other. 473 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 7: To Valentine, boy, you know that's kind of like for her, 474 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 7: whatever she wants, I'll do, Like I hate the one 475 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 7: to the mall she wants to do that. 476 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 6: You know, there's certain things that it was a good movie. 477 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 7: We kind of you know, I think after thirty three years, 478 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 7: you kind of know that you got to you. 479 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 6: Know Flowers is not going to do it. You can 480 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 6: do that, but you got to have a lot of 481 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 6: other stuff too, just the little things. 482 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the day of compromise from Charles R. Buckley. 483 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 5: Men everywhere, right, you just to come to whatever they 484 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 5: want to do and hopefully, you know, things get back 485 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 5: to here for sure. 486 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: All right, my friend. 487 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: Well, we appreciate the love, and we always love your insight, 488 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: and we'll keep doing this once a month as we 489 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: get closer to, like you said, the combine and free 490 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 5: agency and then the draft. So lowly but surely we'll 491 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 5: have things to talk about as the offseason heats up 492 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 5: and keep us occupied when it comes to football. So 493 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 5: Buck always appreciate you, my man. Have a great weekend. 494 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 5: We'll talk ball soon. 495 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 6: A man, take care. 496 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: Well, there you go. 497 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: The Great Charles Rbuckle with his conversation with Matt Taylor 498 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 4: on the Buck Stops here from earlier this week. And Matt, 499 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: with Valentine's Day being tomorrow, any big plan. 500 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: Charles was just talking about his plans and you know, 501 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 5: making sacrifices to go to the mall with his lovely 502 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 5: wife on Valentine's Day. 503 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: Charles is a better man than me. 504 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: I can't think of anything less I'd rather do, even 505 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: on Valentine's Day than to go to the mall with 506 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: my wife. I might just like sit out in the 507 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: car and listen to a ball game or something. I 508 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: don't know about you, but I can't not going to 509 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 5: the mall. No, I try to, you know, so these 510 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: things don't creep up on you and you don't drop 511 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: the ball. So I'm usually like a holiday ahead, so 512 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 5: like around Christmas time, all start sniffing around for Valentine's Day. 513 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: But the is like I order something in early January 514 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: for Valentine's Day and then I forget where I put it. Yeah, 515 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: I understand, though, where the hell is this thing that 516 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 5: you know, got dropped off like three weeks before Valentine's 517 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 5: Day got on the calendar. So that's what I'm trying 518 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: to do tonight is figure out what closet or you 519 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 5: know what, what what bed I stashed this little nick 520 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 5: knack chotski thing I got for my wife or Valentine's 521 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 5: that's pretty good, so you thought that counts. 522 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: We've actually taken on the We're gonna do the Valentines 523 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: for the kids. That's kind of the where we are. 524 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: We never did the whole go out to dinner all 525 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 4: that stuff, so it was you know, geared more towards 526 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 4: the kids. That's our way of you know, getting out 527 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: of any of the Valentine's Day O. 528 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: Good for you forgot about it. Distress. 529 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 5: So let's be real though, she's not getting me anything right, 530 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: all right. It is a one way Strea, This is 531 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 5: a one way. 532 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: Street with a dead end. I can tell you that. Well, 533 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: hopefully it works out for you man. 534 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 4: Hopefully you can find wherever your stuff is and everybody 535 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: out there. 536 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: I ope you a great Valentine's Day this weekend. And 537 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: that's it. 538 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 5: I mean, like if if you deliver, bring in something thoughtful, 539 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 5: this is what you're supposed to do. Yeah, and then 540 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 5: if you don't, you're in the doghouse. So like it's 541 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 5: a lose lose proposition within the men out. 542 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, there there is no winning. Absolutely understand that completely. 543 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 4: The last word is brought to you by Meyer, the 544 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: official Supercenter of the Innanapolis Colts and proud sponsor of 545 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 4: one hundreds of local sports teams across the Midwest. It's 546 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: time for our final time out. 547 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: We come back. We'll give you the forum credit. 548 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: Union Question of the Week, which centers around Drake May's 549 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: Super Bowl future. And he played in his first Super 550 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 4: Bowl last week and how likely he is to play 551 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: in another one. So we get some some stats that 552 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: are gonna blow your mind. Coming up next right here 553 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: in the Last Word ninety three five and one oh 554 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 4: seven five The Fan. 555 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 3: We talked Colts football every Friday on The Last Word, 556 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: the Offseason Home of the Colts with Matt Taylor and 557 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: Casey Valier. 558 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: And we're back here on the Last Word for the 559 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: final time on ninety three five and one o seven 560 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: five The Fan. 561 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: The Last Words brought to you by Vivid Seats. Vivid 562 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: Seats the official. 563 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: Fan experience partner of the Indianapolis Colts. Download the app 564 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: to score great deals on. 565 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: The events that you love. 566 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: It is time for the Forum Credit Union Question of 567 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: the Week, which centers around Drake May. The twenty twenty 568 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: five NFL season is officially in the rear view as 569 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: the Seahawks top the Patriots last week in the Super 570 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 4: Bowl and New England starting quarterback Drake May became the 571 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: thirty seventh quarterback all time to lose their first career 572 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: Super Bowl start thirty seven thirty seventh. Wow, so here's 573 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 4: where we're doing a really high number. That's what I thought. 574 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: I thought the same thing. But we're going to dive 575 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: into this now. Only four of the previous thirty six 576 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: went on to start and win another Super Bowl in 577 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: their career. Oh, can you name those quarterbacks? 578 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 5: O Pete, Wow, he's not Dan Marino because he only 579 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: got to one. Peyton won his first one, lost his second. 580 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 5: Tom Brady won his first one. 581 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: Gosh, Mahomes, not Mahomes. Mahomes win his first one. 582 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 4: Mahomes won his first one. So this is you're right 583 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: in the same timeline for the for one of the guys, 584 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: I think they played each other twice. 585 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: Now who played each other twice? 586 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: Mahomes and this quarterback and the super Oh h Jalen Hurts, 587 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. Okay, the other two guys, the other three 588 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: guys are all Hall of famers. You've got Denver, oh, 589 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: John Elway, Sean Elway. Yeah, he lost the first one 590 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: pretty bad. Former Purdue great. 591 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Drew Brees, not Drew. He won the first one against 592 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: the one against the Colts, Bob Bob, greasy Bob. 593 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: And then this one's a little before my time, even 594 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: though I know Greasy is too. But Lynn Dawson, yeah, 595 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: from the Chiefs, So yeah, Jalen Hurts, John Elway, Bob 596 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: Greasy and Lynn Dawson are the only four of those 597 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 4: thirty six to get their first start and then win another. 598 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: Shit. 599 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: That's why you can't take it for granted, man. 600 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 4: As I mean, it's the same thing we talked about 601 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow. Everybody thought he'd be back there, and 602 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: here we are, we're still waiting on him. Cincinnati, they're 603 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 4: not even making the playoffs. Absolutely, that's it's pretty crazy 604 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: to think about that. But that right there is the 605 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: Forum credit Union question of the Week. You can visit 606 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 4: the Forum credit Union fanforum section of Colts dot com 607 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: to interact with other fans online and post the topic 608 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 4: and participate in various discussions regarding the Colts Forum credit Union, 609 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: helping members live their financial dreams. 610 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: It is time for Taylor's tidbits. 611 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: Let's dive into the nitty gritty. 612 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 6: I never knew that. 613 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: Grab a seed and take notes, say it's time for 614 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: Taylor's tidbits. 615 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: All right, the Super Bowl? What do you think, dud right? 616 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: It was? 617 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: I honestly thought it was gonna be a lot better 618 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 4: game than what we got. 619 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: No, and it was not. It was it was done. 620 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we had we had a streak there. We 621 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: had three straight years where the Super Bowl was pretty 622 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 5: compelling going down to the final couple of minutes, but 623 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 5: the last two have been big time dud. Sunday's game 624 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 5: was the second Super Bowl in history where a touchdown 625 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 5: was not scored in the first three quarters. Seattle was 626 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 5: completely dominant throughout the entire game, were dominant throughout the 627 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: entire run of the playoffs. Seattle trailed for only one 628 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: minute and thirty five seconds the entire postseason. Really yeah, 629 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: that is the fifth least amount of time trailing by 630 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 5: any Super Bowl champion since the nineteen seventy merger. They 631 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 5: also didn't have a single turnover on offense during their 632 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 5: run in the playoffs. And then, lastly, Sam Darnald, boy, 633 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 5: congratulations to him. Quarterback resurgence. Sam Darnald now has as 634 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 5: many Super Bowl wins as each of the previous teams 635 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 5: he started in Week one four. Combine the Vikings, Panthers, 636 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: and Jets. The Jets of those three teams are the 637 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 5: only one to win a Super Bowl, and they did 638 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: it back in the late sixties. Sam Darnald now case 639 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 5: has played for five teams that is the most by 640 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: any starting quarterback prior to winning. 641 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl. 642 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: So he's played with Seattle, Minnesota, San Francisco, Carolina, and 643 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: the Jets. So case in point man, you gotta give 644 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 5: time to the quarterbacks, all right, because right away they 645 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: don't necessarily figure it out immediately. You gotta give him time. 646 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: And Sam Darnold mean has really found quarterback resurgence last year, 647 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 5: winning over ten games with the Vikings and then this 648 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 5: year taking it home to the Super Bowl title with 649 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 5: the Seattle Seahawks. So individually, I like him a great deal. 650 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: I think he's a good guy and it's great to 651 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: see him have individual success after eight or nine. 652 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: Years in the NFL. 653 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: There's that, and there's also that the NFL is a 654 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: copycat league and everybody is always looking for the young, 655 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: hotshot quarterback, and now you're starting to see that he 656 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: maybe we should prioritize experience exactly. You find the guys 657 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: that have been there and they just need a little 658 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: bit extra here or there. 659 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: Tip of the cap to Seattle. 660 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: That was pretty impressive there that that Super Bowl victory 661 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: and you talk about those numbers, you know, no turnovers 662 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: and didn't even trail for two minutes total. It just 663 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: kind of leaves that bad taste in your mouth as 664 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: Colts fans when Philip Rivers out of retirement. Let that team, 665 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, forced them to have a last second field 666 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: goal to get a victory over the Colts in twenty 667 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: twenty five. 668 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: But that's gonna do it for us. 669 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: On the last word, I hope everybody out there enjoys 670 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: Valentine's Day weekend. 671 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: Es Been Radio is up next, But for Matt Taylor, 672 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm Casey Value. 673 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: Thanks a lot for joining us here on ninety three 674 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 4: five and one oh seventy five The Fan